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May 6, 2025 • 21 mins

Discover how Jesus turns a clever trap into a timeless lesson about our earthly and divine responsibilities.

In this episode, the Pharisees attempt to trap Jesus with a question about paying taxes to Caesar, hoping to corner Him into a compromising answer. However, Jesus responds with profound wisdom, teaching that we should render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s, leaving His challengers astonished.

Today's Bible verse is Mark 12:17, from the King James Version.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to
God the things that are God's mark twelve seventeen. Dear Lord,
we acknowledge our need for you in every aspect of
our lives. Help us to discern the times and seasons,
understanding that everything has its place according to your divine plan.

(00:26):
Transform our hearts, Lord, so that we may diligently honor
you in every season. Give us the strength to fulfill
our earthly responsibilities with integrity and faithfulness, while never losing
sight of our ultimate devotion to you. Empower us to

(00:49):
recognize and seize opportunities to glorify your name in our
daily lives, whether in work, relationships, or service. May your
spirit guide us to be diligent stewards of all you've
entrusted to us, always reflecting your love and truth. Let

(01:12):
our lives be a testament to your grace, bringing light
and hope to those around us. In Jesus name, we pray, Amen.
Thank you for praying with me today. This is the
Jesus Podcast. Gospel inspired stories written with purpose and produced

(01:36):
with cinematic flare. Stick around to hear today's take on taxes,
the Kingdom of God, and loyalty. The room flickered with
a warm glow. Oil lamps were set about the room
and cast shadowy figures on the stone walls. Around a

(01:57):
weathered wooden table stood a group of men. They all
dressed similarly, from the blue fringed robes falling down their
shoulders to the scowls they adorned on their faces. The
Pharisees had habitually gathered to discuss the continually nagging problem

(02:18):
that was Jesus of Nazareth. As months rolled into years,
their anger simmered and they were determined to escalate their plans.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
This cannot continue. It's not enough to spend our days
arguing with the man. We have to stop him, especially
after that whole wedding banquet fiasco. The disrespect this so
called rabbi continues to show out an eye and us
has no end.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Amram fastened his belt around his waist tighter. As one
of the group's leaders, he had found himself at the
end of his wits dealing with the rabbi from Nazareth.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
And how exactly do you propose we stop him? Every
time we get close to trapping him, In his words,
it just draws more people.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
It's as if they.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Like listening to his lies.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
If we can't stop him, then perhaps it's time we
have him secured in a more tangible way. We must
have him arrested on what grounds, On the grounds that
he's not only leading our people astray, but he's causing
chaos wherever he goes. The Romans hate chaos.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Amram pounded his fist on the table before composing himself
once more.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
We just need to get wrong to see the same
thing we do.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Why would Rome care about the ramblings of a jew.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Lemuel, If you have forgotten our role, people will always
be susceptible to the enchanting tales of false prophets and teachers.
It's up to us to do whatever is necessary show
them the truth. But it won't be long before we

(04:19):
bring honor to Utny. If you would be so kind
as to get me Ezra.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Lemuel left the room and returned with a young man.
His face showed an age beyond his ears. He had
become a pharisee to please his parents, but the life
never suited him. The entanglement of religious zealousness, political scheming,
and struggles for power were all too.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Much for him.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Ezra i have an errand for you to run.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Ezra nodded his head in trained obedience.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Jesus is said to have been in the area for
some time. Send a word to the Herodians that we
would like to cordially invite them to rendezvous on one
of his little teachings. If we're to make a move
against him, we'll need all the political prowess we can.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Ghana, the young Pharisee bowed his head. He turned on
his heels and headed for the door.

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Speaker 4 (06:21):
While we live in this world and fulfill our responsibilities,
our hearts, minds, and souls are devoted to God's kingdom.
This dual citizenship, being citizens of both heaven and Earth
can sometimes feel like a balancing act. We want to
live faithfully to God, but we also need to navigate
the realities of the world around us. This is the

(06:43):
Jesus Podcast I'm Ethan with pray dot Com. Today we
continue through our miniseries on Jesus, disrupting the status quo
and showing us a new way to live. This series
showcases Jesus's teachings and passion, and we will learn about
God's heart for people and his kingdom. Today, we're going
to dive into a story where Jesus tackles a tricky

(07:05):
question about taxes. Now, I know taxes aren't exactly our
favorite topic, but hang with me because there's something deeper
going on here that has a lot to teach us
about living out our faith in the world.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Jesus and the disciples were setting up camp for another
night in the countryside. As had become usual, Jesus had
departed to pray in solitude, leaving the disciples the task
of delegating responsibilities. They had become so accustomed to this
rhythm that very few instructions were necessary before the disciples

(07:41):
formed groups and went about their jobs. Peter and Andrew
were tasked with fishing, and they convinced James and John
to join them. Nathaniel had led a group into town
to purchase a few necessities. Back at the camp, Matthew
and Philip were preparing wood for the group. The axe

(08:04):
swung down, splintering the wood. As Philip cut the logs
to size, Matthew stacked them neatly around the ring of stones,
forming a makeshift fire.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Bit.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Tell me, Philip, what was it like following John before
you had ever met Jesus. I can't say I'm not
a little jealous. I wasted so much of my life
behind the tax booths.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Ah, nothing is wasted if we allowed the Lord to
redeem it, even your time as a tax collector.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
There was Philip's steadfastness. As always, he was relentlessly positive.
He always knew what to say to comfort others. He
wasn't worried about his perception among the other disciples. He
had no jealousy of power or fear of jesus preference.
He knew he was called and loved by Jesus, which

(08:58):
was more than enough for him.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
The Lord prepares us in different ways. He molds and
shapes us to be used how he best ceas fit.
My time with John allowed me to break my prejudice
of what I believe the Messiah would look like. When
you follow a man dressed in camel furr who eats
bugs for breakfast, you find yourself pretty open to most people.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
After that, Matthew couldn't help but laugh at the absurd picture.
He knew it was true. Philip was among the most
welcoming and caring people he had ever met before following Jesus.
The people who hated him the most were his Jewish kin.
He was embarrassed thinking that the Roman guards who escorted

(09:44):
him were his closest friends, if you can even call
them that.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well, Matthew, how did the collections go to day?

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Matthew peered through the bars of his booth. The sun
begged to settle gently on the which meant it was
almost time to close up for the day.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
Good evening, Decimus. They've gone as well as one could hope,
But with how things are trending, I'm not quite sure
how the books will look to morrow. As if to
day didn't have enough worries of.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Its own, Matthew's chest felt heavy with anxiety. He felt
the pressure of wanting to please Rome while simultaneously facing
the indignation of his people. Deep down, he knew he
was hurting them, but it would just be by some
one else if it weren't him collecting their taxes. He

(10:37):
tried his best to convince himself that what he did
was unnecessary evil outside his control.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
You're right there, I said. Do you have any plans
for the rest of the evening?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Decimus broke Matthew from his idle musings.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
Oh, ahem, No.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
In my occupation, you don't tend to make many friends,
but I've grown accustomed to being alone.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
What about family?

Speaker 6 (11:01):
It would probably be easier to find friends than family
at this point.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Let me ask you something, Matthew. You're a numbers guy, right.
Do you know what Decimus means?

Speaker 6 (11:12):
One could guess it has something to do with the number.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Ten bingo in Rome. Decimus is the name families often
give to their tenth born son. See I grew up
to be the run to the litter, But starting at
the bottom means the only direction you can go is up.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Matthew gave a courteous smile, but his confusion was noticeable.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
All I'm saying is, you're good at what you do.
You find the right people.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Eventually, as Matthew stood talking with Philip, he knew that
he had found the right people. Maybe there was truth
what Philip had said about God redeeming all things. He
just had to let him.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Matthew, Philip, come quick, the Pharisee in the Herodians, what's
going on?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Is everything okay?

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Yes? I mean no, I mean well, we're not sure.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
Just come with us.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
A group of Pharisees found Jesus while he was praying,
but they seem different.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
It's almost as if they like him.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Out of the tree line burst Peter and Andrew. Matthew
and Philip looked at each other, puzzled. The men raced
to where Peter and Andrew had first found Jesus and
the small gathering. Behind Jesus stood the rest of the disciples,
and before him the collection of Pharisees. Jesus welcomed the

(12:39):
four disciples as they made their way closer.

Speaker 8 (12:42):
Shalom, perfect timing. We just finished introductions and our new
friends he is say they have not come to harass us.
But with a sincere question, isn't that a nice change
of pace, Jesus pivoted back to the Pharisees and Herodians. So, please, Ezra,
what is it? How can I help you all today?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Ezra cleared his throat. He needed to sound genuine. His
years of playing the part of a pharisee came into use.
Now acting had become a natural part of his interactions.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
Ah, teacher, we know you're a man of integrity. We've
heard many teachers, and we know that you teach the
way of God in accordance with the truth.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
As the disciples watched with hesitancy, they had never met
a pharisee who spoke so well of Jesus since Nicodemus.
But Jesus just smiled at the young man, bowing his
head slightly to encourage him to continue.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
You aren't swayed by others because you ignore titles and accolades.
It's clear your loyalties are to Adunai and Aduni alone.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Ezra had mastered the art of flattery among the older pharisee.
Now was the time to set the track.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
But we wonder how that loyalty plays out in the
empire under Caesar's rule. Tell us, then, what your opinion is?
Is it right to pay the imperial tax to Caesar
or not?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
The pharisees question was calculated. If Jesus affirmed paying taxes,
surely the crowds would deny him. But if he spoke
against the taxes, he incriminated himself as an enemy of Rome.
With Roman guards standing a few feet behind and the
crowd of oppressed Jews surrounding him, there seemed to be

(14:41):
no correct answer. There was a long pause. Matthew observed Jesus.
His fists were tightening in anger. Clearly he was in
complete control, but a righteous rage course through his veins,

(15:02):
and when the Pharisees thought Jesus had no response, he
turned in one swift motion, like a lion on his prey.

Speaker 8 (15:11):
You hypocrites, you came to me under the thin veil
of sincerity. Why are you trying to trap me?

Speaker 9 (15:19):
Do you think questions of taxes will cause the son
of man to stumble. I have a former tax collector
under my own followers, yet even he is pushed past
this stumbling block.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Jesus' eyes met Matthew. He gave him an approving nod.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
Show me the coin used to pay the tax.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
The men fumbled for their coin purse and removed a denarius.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
If you would tell me whose image and inscription are
carved on that coin, Caesus, of course.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
The Pharisees answered sheepishly, sensing that Jesus had already prepared
an argument against them.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
Then it is as simple as this. Give back to
Caesar what is caesars?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
And to God what is.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
God's The simplicity of the Rabbi's reply left the men speechless.
Nothing he said was wrong. It carried no irreverence toward
God or disrespect towards Rome. Ezra had been instructed to
feign his sincerity toward the Rabbi, but listening to Jesus

(16:27):
with his own ears, he found himself genuinely endeared to
the man who stood before him. His respect bordered on reverence.
He wasn't sure how the rest of the Pharisees would
take the news, But as for Ezra, he couldn't help

(16:47):
but walk away from the situation amazed.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
In Matthew Chapter twenty two, verses fifteen through twenty two,
the Pharisees and the Herodians come to Gijesus with a
loaded question, Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar
or not? Now, before we dig into Jesus's answer, let's
take a moment to appreciate what's happening here. The Pharisees
and the Herodians were not exactly best friends. In fact,

(17:15):
they were more like political and religious rivals, but their
mutual dislike for Jesus was strong enough to bring them
together for this sneaky little scheme. Their question was a trap.
If Jesus said yes, pay the taxes, he'd upset the
Jewish people who hated the Roman occupation. If he said no,
don't pay, He'd be in trouble with the Roman authorities.

(17:37):
It seemed like a no win situation, but Jesus, in
his wisdom, wasn't about to be caught off guard. Jesus
asks for a coin and then poses a simple question,
whose image and inscription is this? The answer is clear Caesar's.
Then Jesus delivers that famous line render Therefore, to Caesar
the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things

(17:59):
that are God's. Now, let's unpack this. Jesus isn't just
dodging the question. He's giving a profound answer that speaks
to the heart of our faith and our place in
the world. First, by saying, render to Caesar the things
that are Caesar's, Jesus acknowledges that there are legitimate responsibilities
we have to the government and the society that we

(18:20):
live in. As Christians, we're not called to be radicals
who reject all worldly authority. Instead, we're called to be
good citizens, to pay our taxes and to contribute to
the common good. It's a recognition that, yes, we live
in the world, and there are things we owe to
the structures that maintain it. But Jesus doesn't stop there.
He adds, and to God the things that are God's.

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This is where it gets really interesting. The coin might
bear Caesar's image, but we bear the image of God.
Our ultimate loyalty, our highest allegiance, belongs to God alone.
While we live in this world and fulfill our responsibilities,
our hearts are our minds, and our souls are devoted
to God's Kingdom. This dual citizenship, being citizens of both

(19:06):
heaven and Earth, can sometimes feel like a balancing act.
We want to live faithfully to God, but we also
need to navigate the realities of the world around us.
Jesus shows us that it's possible to do both, but
we must keep our priorities strain. Let's bring this home.
We're called to be good witnesses and the culture and

(19:26):
context we're placed in. We're not here to dismantle every
worldly power or to create a Christian utopia. Instead, we're
here to live out our faith in such a way
that people are drawn to Christ. We are a movement
of peace, not of rebellion. Our mission is to win
hearts and minds to the truth of Jesus, not to
overthrow governments or withdraw from society. Peter put it beautifully

(19:50):
when he said, fear God, honor the King one Peter,
Chapter two, verse seventeen. This doesn't mean we blindly follow
every rule or and never speak out against injustice. It
means we respect the authorities while always remembering that our
ultimate authority is God. We live in this tension, being
faithful to God while being respectful and responsible members of society.

(20:15):
And let's not forget what's at stake. When we render
to God what is God's, We're giving him our very selves,
our time, our talents, our treasure. We're recognizing that everything
we have and everything we are belongs to him. This
means living with integrity, showing kindness and love to others,
and being faithful witnesses of the Gospel, and all that

(20:36):
we do. So as we go about our lives, paying
our taxes, going to work, engaging in our communities, Let's
remember where our true allegiance lies. Let's be good citizens
of earth, but even better citizens of Heaven. Let's render
to Caesar what is his, but give to God what
is rightfully his, our hearts, our worship, our whole life.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
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