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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
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today's talk, here's Richard Ellis.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
The title today's message is Lost Lonely Boys. Anybody ever
heard of Lost Lonely Boys. We got a few people
who listen to the radio or something out there if.

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You don't know anything about those Lonely Boys.

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It's kind of a new hot band that's out There's
three Hispanic brothers and I'm doing some research on this
and have some pretty reliable sources that these guys might
be believers. It's not quote unquote Christian music. They've got
a song out, and I just want to read you this.
I watched an interview of these guys. The guy who
wrote it, one of the brothers, I think the oldest
brother who wrote it, describe being by himself one day,

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just life encroaching on him like it does everybody else.
And he started praying, and all of a sudden kind
of got a prompt from the inside to say, write
this down what he was praying.

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And this is what came out.

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And I won't sing this song, of course, I know
that's an answer to somebody's prayer. Here's the song, and
the name of the song, By the way, is Heaven.
Save me from this prison? Lord, help me get away,
because only you can save me now from this misery.
Because I've been lost in my own place and I'm
getting weary. How far is heaven? And I know I
need to change my ways of living? How far is heaven?

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Lord? Can you tell me?

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Because I've been locked up way too long in this
crazy world? How far is heaven? I just keep on praying, Lord,
just keep on living. How far is heaven?

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Lord?

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Can you tell me? How far is Heaven? I just
got to know how far? How far is Heaven? Lord,
can you tell me? And then this piece is in Spanish,
but it's translated. You that's in a higher place, Send
me down a blessing, because I know there's a better
place than this place I'm living. How far is heaven?
I've just got to have some faith and just keep
on living. How far is heaven? I just want to

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know how far? Sooner or later, if you live long enough,
you're going to get to a place where you may
not call you those lonely boys or those lonely girls,
but where you feel like you're by yourself.

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Maybe you feel this.

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Way every once in a while all the time, but
if you live in the world, you work in the world, especially,
you're trying to do the right thing, and you look around,
and as David described in the Psalms, it just kind
of appears everybody's gone nuts.

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They're wicked.

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They seem to do whatever they want to do, they
get away with it, and you're trying to hold it
in the road and do the right thing, and you're
by yourself, and you feel very lonely sometimes trying to
lead either your family or you get around a group
of men, you're the only one trying to do the
right thing or women, whatever the case may be. And
there are times when you've got to just you know,
if you look at the root word in the Greek

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for the word for lead or leader, the root word
is not fun. And anytime you try to lead is
not always fun, and it's not always easy. And whether
it's teaching children, or in your office, or in a
spiritual context, as a husband or as a mom, whatever
you're going through, it is not always easy. And as

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the phrase says, you know it's lonely at the top.
If you get to the top and there's nobody following you,
you do sometimes have to make these decisions.

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Genesis, chapter two, verse eighteen.

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God's made creation, he makes Adam. This is very familiar
to a lot of people, I'm sure. But in verse
eighteen and the Lord God said, it is not good
that man should be alone. I will make him a
helper comparable to him. And I'm going to read you
some verses just about how it is not good to
be by yourself. It doesn't have to be a husband
or a wife. It can just be some relationships a family.

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In my opinion, the best place to find these things
is in a church.

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And what God left on the planet.

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This accountability relationship building that goes on in the body
of Christ. So he says, it's not good to be alone.
He made a helper comparable him happen to be a woman.
Thank God for that in this case. And then if
you jump down a few chapters to Genesis chapter twelve,
in verse one, the Lord said to Abram, get out

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of your country, from your family, from your father's house,
to a land that I will show you. I will
make you a great nation. I will bless you and
make your name great, and you shall be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you, and I will
curse him who curses you, and in you all the
families of the earth shall be blessed.

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That sounds great.

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The problem is he's going to have to trust God
and take off by himself from a place he's familiar with,
that he's comfortable and leave. And he said, well, that
seems easy, just do it. You know what, We're in
the same situation. A lot of times God says, quit
a job, take another job. You don't know anybody, you
don't thinking about it, or maybe you lose a job.
And he said, trust me, move here, do this change that.

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And you say, but God, I don't know anything or anybody.
It's a complete step of faith, exactly, and Abraham by
himself leaving everything that was familiar.

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Verse four.

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So Abram departed as the Lord had spoken to him,
And how much is writing on this guy leading and
doing the right thing. You cannot sin in a vacuum.
You cannot disobey, and it only affects you, whether it's
a man, a husband, a mom of wife, whatever it is.

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When you choose to disobey, you say, well.

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You know, I'm not affecting my sin and infecting anybody
but me.

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That's not possible.

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Because when I don't obey, look at the domino effect.
Now Abram screwed up later, and he's not that he's perfect,
and nobody's perfect. But Jesus, as great as these guys are,
there are human beings that had faults and God worked
in them and threw them anyway. But they made some
basic right decisions in their life, and the big ones
they chose to obey and to trust God in a

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simple for like, So Abram departed as the Lord spoken
to him.

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Is this huge he did it?

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And whatever it is that God is challenging you to
do in your family, with your home, with your finances,
with your job, whatever it may be. I'm telling you
he's not kidding. And if it doesn't go away, and
he keeps impressing some of these things on you, and
in challenging you and expecting you and encouraging you to lead,
then to lead, make the tough choice and do the
right thing, no matter what it costs, because it's gonna

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cost you if you don't, it's going to cost a
bunch of other people as well. I spent some time
recently with a man been married, I guess for fifteen years.
I think it was the found out his wife was
having an affair. You know, we think it's always men
having affairs. Women have affairs too, and having an affair,
the marriage, you know, fell apart. She decided to go
with this guy too. Little kids. She goes with this

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guy and they're at her mom's house. He is with her,
the kids are there, and there's sleeping in whatever bed
she and this guy or in this bed, and he
dies in the bed. So there's one guy dead, and
the kids are affected by this. You know what in
the movies, when all these things happen. They go to

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commercial and you get a bowl of cereal. In real life,
families are destroyed by decisions.

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That are made.

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It may be funny on TV and make for great
viewing and tantalizing, exciting, you know stories, but it's devastating.

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And we don't have to leave this room.

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We got women in this room who have been a
party to destroying somebody's marriage because you had the affair
with some man. We have men in this room who've
cheated with married women or on your own wife or whatever.
And I'm not trying to bring up the past and
make it negative, but we don't have to go far
to know the pain that is created by sin and
the lack of leadership. And as lonely as it may

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be and as loud as the devil's screams, everybody's doing it.
Don't miss out the parades coming by.

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Jump in.

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You got to take a stand at some point and say,
you know what, No, I may not have as much
fun quote unquote, but I'm gonna have some joy in
my life to the finish line, because all this fun
is not fun. At some point, Abraham does the right thing.
If you read the story of Moses without going into
it in Exodus. A lot of these stories, God selects Moses,

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calls Moses out, protected him from his birth. And I
don't know how to explain this to you. You say, well, i' no, Moses.
If you are a Christian, you are chosen somehow. God
chose you before the foundation of the world. And so
you say, well, my life doesn't matter. You know what
it matters. He would never have picked you for his

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team if it didn't matter. He's got a plan, he's
got a purpose. And you were born, when you were born,
the way you were born, to whom you were born.
It's all for a reason. And whatever is going on
in your life, you say, well, it doesn't matter. I'll
never affect anybody you can affect. I think that the
research and picked a bumb off the street basically, and

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did some research around that guy and figured out in
his lifetime he affected thirteen thousand people directly, a bum
on the street his life impacted. So how many people
do you impact? I know we have a lot of
bums here, so it's probably a lot. Any man with
a big chair in a remote control is a bum.

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So there he had him Moses from his birth is protected.
He should have been slaughtered with all the other kids,
and somehow in a little arc out in the river
and gets found.

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It's just it's impossible.

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And God has preserved my life, your life for a reason,
and place that's here for a reason. And Moses clearly
messes up, kills a guy and out of that gets
shipped out. You know, has to run away and forty
years out there. But when it gets right down to it,
God made him into a great leader. Still after eighty years,
forty years in Egypt, forty years in a wilderness, God

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picks him and said, okay, you're ready, let's do it.
He says, oh, but I can't speak. He starts to
come up excuses after eighty years. So you say, well,
I got excuses. God won't use me. Moses was full
of excuses. God's heard excuses before. He can work around it.
He can work with it. But give him something, just
a willingness, God, I'll do what you want me to do.
In time after time, Moses has to go alone into

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the mountain or into the tabernacle and with God here
and then go back and tell the people. Let me
tell you something. There were days when Moses was not
the most popular guy in the camp. And as a parent,
as a husband, as a wife, as a mother, whatever
your position is, if you're concerned about being popular, you
can throw leadership out the window. And politicians, notwithstanding, if

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there's one thing I respect, you know, politicians trying to
grab everybody on both sides of the aisle. You know what,
They're not all going to be happy. And if you're leading,
somebody's not gonna be happy with you. And if they are,
you are probably not leading anybody. Somebody, there's gonna be
some rub there's going to be some conflict.

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That's now.

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Let me jump to Ecclesiastes, chapter four and verse seven
and following then I returned, and this is Solomon, who
was very wise and kind of got very cynical in
some ways, going, you know what, I got everything, I got,
all these women and all this stuff, and it's all vanity.
It's like chasing the wind. It doesn't work. There was
no satisfaction in all that. But part of his wisdom

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here he says, Then I returned and I saw vanity
under the sun. There is one alone without companion. He
has neither son nor brother. Yet there is no end
to all his labors, nor is his eye satisfied with riches.
But he never asked for whom do I toil and
deprive myself of good? This also is vanity and a

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grave misfortune. Somebody, no kids, nobody, just working, accumulating stuff,
and then one day they never even bother to stop
long enough and say, why am I doing this? Parenthetically here,
maybe let me ask you a question. If you're busting
it and climbing the ladder and trying to make a
bunch of money money and have a bigger house than
your brother in law or whatever it is, your deal
is why what are you gonna do? What's gonna happen

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all that stuff when you die? I mean, if you
look at the way things go. Even if you amassed
a huge fortune and you left it to your kids,
there's a good chance they're.

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Gonna blow it.

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And if they don't, the next generation will. They'll squander it.
Put it to some good use, tithe, do something, invest
at some place that will last forever.

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Verse nine.

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Now listen to the simplicity of this. Two are better
than one.

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Now.

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Sometimes it's lonely at the top because you end up
and there's nobody going with you, and you just have
to go.

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But you know what, you don't have to live that way.

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The word church, you cannot even say church without using
the word we implicit in church. And the body of
Christ is a we. There is no such thing as
a church with one person. It is a body. It
is not one member, It is a number of members
that together make up a body. So the wector kicks
in here and he says, two are better than one

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because they have a good reward for their labor. For
if they fall, one will lift up his companion. But
woe to him who is alone when he falls, for
he has no one to help him up. We made
a deal, at least in our church. One of the
girls in our church went to India by ourself and
came back. I went to Liberia if took a guy
with me, and I realize it's nuts to send somebody

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alone anywhere in the world. And we got a policy.
Now nobody goes anywhere alone ever. Again, it's cheaper for
me to go by myself to African back. But you
know what, in the end, it's a whole lot more
expensive for me to go by myself. Two are better
than one if you're one of these people that says, well,
I feel like God's leading me to do an outreach

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at all the Hooters restaurants, and so I'm going by myself. Now,
if you're a woman, I'm all right with that. If
you a bunch of women, gonna do an outreach there.
But guys who say well, I feel like God's you know,
sending me out to do ministry in the bars, in
the bar scene and share the gospel in the bars,
don't be going by yourself or your dead meat. You

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will not make it, cause you will go down. You're
gonna take a hit. Do not do things by yourself.
Two or better than one, for if they fall, one
will lift up his companion. Now, why is it important
not to be by yourself? If I'm out on a trip,
have a heart attack, injured something, I want somebody with
me who can pick me up, maybe literally if possible,

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and get me the heck out of dodge into a
safe place. And if something happens to you and you're
by yourself, you are by yourself at the mercy of whatever,
and it's just not very wise. Don't try to live
by yourself. You said what you're talking about marriage? No,
I'm just talking about relationships, having camaraderie, having somebody, some accountability,
some familyiness to this thing where you're not by yourself.

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Verse eleven. And this one's maybe a little more controversial. Again.

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If two lie down together, they will keep warm, But
how can one be warm alone? And the Hebrew word
here for this is spoon It's a spooning word. Well,
I'll explain that later to some of you. Now you say, well,
is this two guys? Is this two people?

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You know what?

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Sometimes it's two guys. But it's nothing sexual in nature.
If you are in a place by yourself and you
are freezing, it ain't.

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About cuddling or snuggling.

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It's about grabbing hold of somebody in body warmth, keeping
two people alive. Literally, you can save somebody's life in
a situation by just being close. You lie down by yourself,
you're gone. Two people, they'll keep warm. You can't be
warm alone. I prefer this in the context of my
wife at home. But you know, if I got in

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a desperate situation some of you, I might be forced to.

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Verse twelve.

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Though one may be overpowered by another, two can withstand him.
And a threefold cord is not quickly broken. And if
you know anything about ropes, even twine, you put a
couple of the strands of twine together, it's pretty strong.
Three you got something that can't be broken easily. And
some people say, well, maybe that's the Holy spirit. I
just say, if you got three of you, that's pretty strong.

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If you got two of you in God, somehow in
the mix of it, you got something. What God joins
together can be easily pulled apart. It's very strong. What
is he saying, don't do it by yourself. I'm suggesting
don't do ministry by yourself some churches. And I'm not
being critical of anything here. I was raised in a
tradition in a church system where pastors were the deal.

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You know. Pastors were the CEO, the chief, and that's it.
You can have a strong pastor, but our church has elders.
You know what.

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I don't want to get in a room and be
running everything all the time. I don't mind leading, but
I need sometimes to get in a room and have
some other men, somebody to look at and say, you know, what,
are we doing the right thing?

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What do you think?

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And have some equality, some conversation, somebody to help you
through the process. It may be all macho in American,
but you know what, that's changing even this country.

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All this high powered I'm the boss thing is going away.

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One quote I found talks about, you know, leadership being
given vision at the front and saying thank you at
the end, but being a servant in the middle. Leading
is about serving. It's not about being the boss and
then power and in control. It's about serving people and
helping all of us get someplace, not just getting me
someplace using you to do that. Peter Drucker, if you've

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ever heard of Peter Drucker, said this. The leaders who
work most effectively, it seems to me, never say I.
And that's not because they have trained themselves not to
say I. They don't think I, they think we. They
think team. They understand their job to be to make
the team function. They accept responsibility and don't sidestep it.
But we gets the credit. This is what creates trust,

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what enables you to get.

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The task done.

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And if there's ever anybody who figured this out, it
was Jesus. Jesus could have said, you know what, forget
these loser twelve do UDEs. I screwed up. I picked
the wrong bunch. One of them is going to commit
suicide anyway. You know what, you guys, go back to
your families. I'll take it from here. But he kept
working with him for three years. He put up with it,
sleeping outside, you know the one thing. And I haven't

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done this yet, but I keep thinking, if you could
open your Bible anywhere, just open it up and put
your nose in it and smell what was going on
in that page, that'd be one scary sensation and this
kind of stuff. You think, what are you talking about?
I think about these things. This Bible is all true,

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but it's words on a page, and you'd imagine what
was going on. You know what these people is it
stank or stunk, whatever it is. They smell bad. There's
a really good chance Jesus smelled bad. They don't have
running water and Jesus getting his trailer that was falling
the entourage and clean up before the next service. I mean,
he was outside like a homeless person, sleeping, and he

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smelled bad.

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Anyhow, I need one.

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Of these scratch off bibles where you scratch it and
smell it and see what was going on that page.

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He didn't do it by himself.

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He took in a bunch of guys and trained him
how to do it. Even when he left, God, the
father of the Son, Holy Spirit, had made a deal somehow.

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The plan was the.

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Holy Spirit after Jesus left, the Holy Spirit would come
and stay in all of them, and the we kicked in,
and somehow when the We kicks in, God gets the glory.
That's how you know whether what you're doing matters. By
the way, if when you get done with whatever you're
doing for God, quote unquote.

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And he gets the glory, it's worked.

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If somehow one person or a bunch of people say, well,
you know it was really about us, God goes, well, great, you.

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Have the glory. Then I'll go the next thing.

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It is about God getting the glory. You say, well,
he's egotistical, you know what. Maybe so he's God, he
can be whatever he wants to be. I don't think
it's ego. He deserves all the glory we can give him.
So let's do whatever we do as a we to
give him the glory, and you'll know it's working. Very
briefly here, let me tell you about somebody who you
talk about.

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It's being lonely at the top.

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I tell you where it's really lonely, at the top
of a cross. And in spite of Jesus being the
master leader literally and doing everything right perfectly, he ends
up at the top of a cross. And it's a
very lonely place because at a certain moment in time,
even the we of the Trinity somehow remained intact. But

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God the Father had to turn his back on this.

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Jesus. Now why in the world.

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And we talk about this all the time, and people
sometimes will say, we know, he just talks about Jesus
all the time. You know what gets you another speaker then,
because I'm not going to stop talking about Jesus. Because
without Jesus, you got Jack, you got nothing. Because of
what Jesus did lonely at the top of that cross,
I don't ever have to be alone or lonely again.

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Now I may be lonely sometimes you may have a
place where you're lonely. We got a guy who's been
coming here for years, and over these years I've seen
him lose his wife to illness and watched him be lonely,
never alone.

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He's a believer. See, when you become a Christian, you
may have been alone before. In your life.

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You can never be alone again. When you have Jesus
in your life.

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You can be on a deserted island all by yourself
till the day you die.

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You'll never be alone. He will never leave you, he
will never forsake you. You can never get alone again because
he's not just with you, he is in you.

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Now.

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I watched this guy go through this process, and a
week or so ago he came up to me. He
always gives me a hug, say hello, how you doing?
And he said, I got engaged the other day and
he's getting remarried and his life is moving on now.
He said, well, he's not going to be lonely anymore.
He's not going to be alone anymore. I watched him.

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Maybe he was a little lonely, but I never saw
him alone. In the whole.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Process, what Jesus did at the top of that cross
made possible a relationship with God where he paid the
debt that I really owed. He paved a way for
me that I never could have found and made it
possible for me to have this personal relationship with God
where he cannot just again be with me, but be

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in me and stay there.

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And no matter what I face.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
No matter what I go through, no matter what God
asked me to do, he will never ask you to
do something He doesn't give you the power of the
ability to do so. If he says, you know what,
take a step of faith.

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This is where we're going. Follow me. You take a
deep breath and say, you know what. You know.

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It's not because I think I can. I think I can.
It's because I know he wouldn't ask me if I couldn't.
So I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna trust him, and
I'm going to follow him, and I know it's going
to be okay, no matter what it is.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
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Speaker 1 (23:18):
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wrap up today's talk, let's.

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Pray, Father, thank you again for your word this amazing book,
not of a bunch of stories, but a bunch of
true stories about real people who struggled, We struggle, and
even about you, Lord Jesus, who you were tempted every
way that we are, yet without sin.

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So you know what we go through. You know what
it is you're asking us to do.

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You've proven that it can be done, but we cannot
do it without you, Lord, and I pray that you
would give us wisdom encourage to trust you and to
obey you, and to follow you and do what it
is you ask us to do, no matter how lonely
it is. Thank you for the great example, Lord of
men who have preceded us and many who will follow us. Lord,
but help us be a part of that connection and

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be the leaders of those who will follow us, the Lord,
to set an example, to show them how this is done,
what it means to love God and be loved by God,
and trust him and follow him and obey him and
see the difference that it makes. Father, We've brought up
some things, maybe from people's past today, and maybe that
stirred something. But I thank you for the blood of
Jesus Christ, God's Son that washes sin away and can

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make us clean and pure and holy in your sight.
And that no matter what we've done, or where we go,
or how much we've screwed our own life up or
somebody else's, that there is forgiveness, there is mercy, there
is grace in time of need, and Father, sooner or
later all of us have a time of need.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Thank you that you're there and that this stuff works.
It's not just a bunch of religious stuff. It works.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Use us this day, Father, may we be followers so
that we can be leaders.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And we pray it in Jesus' name. Amen.

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Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah.