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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Richard Ellis Talks with Richard Ellis. Thanks for
allowing us to share this time with you. Honestly, it's
our favorite time of the day where we get to
hang out together and talk about how the truth of
God's word can make a huge difference in your life.
And that's what we're going to hear from Richard in
a way that only he can do, with words of hope, insight,
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and humor. You may be stuck in traffic or stuck
in life. Either way, today's message is going to help
get you on the right track as you learn how
much God loves you right where you are. So let's
get right into today's talk. Here's Richard Ellis.
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The title today's message is who Cares?
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I think it was Stephen Wright, the comedian said, if
you think nobody cares, try and missing a couple of
payments that we find out pretty quick somebody cares. Too
many times people think whether it's because of depression, isolation,
whatever it is, they just getting a funk, or they
really do believe this, because in some cases it might
actually be true.
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You just can't find anybody who cares.
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There's old things, like you know, tell somebody something and say, well,
here's a quarter old country song, here's a quarter. Find
somebody who cares, Call somebody who cares. You say, well,
everybody has somebody who cares. It's not true. You say, well,
but God cares about everybody. I get that. Sometimes he
shows up in us. And there are people who think
who cares? For instance, who really cares if you live
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or die? You say, well, my parents care. What if
your parents are dead? Well, I think my sister or
my brother, what if they're going? What if you have
no contact with him? You start wondering, is there anybody
who really knows I'm alive or cares that I'm alive
at all? You just look at somebody say well, I'm just,
you know, really not happy.
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Dude who cares? You know?
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It usually starts a dude, dude who cares? Like, get
hold your life, can't pay my bills, I lost my job.
And one that I kind of cycle through with people
is I'm thinking about killing myself. And the answer if
you say that out loud and the answer comes back
either verbally or just nobody says anything, and it's kind
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of this resounding dude who cares? Kill yourself? Then what
do we care, what do I care? Nobody cares. Kill yourself,
and by the way, don't kill yourself. The suicides are
up people alone thinking there's no hope, there's no future,
there's no answers, nobody cares, and they just say, I might.
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As well get out.
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You say, well, everybody's got somebody that cares. Let me
tell you, as Christians, one of the reasons it is
so important to walk with God in such a way
that you communicate with him and He communicates with you,
is we get these promptings. I have never in my
life heard an audible voice, but I guarantee you there
are times where he says, call X, call.
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Someone, text someone now, not.
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Pray about it, don't wait and think about it now.
And I have had too many things match up, either
in that moment or later, and people say, oh my gosh,
I cannot believe you me. This is what I was feeling,
this is what was going on. You've got to listen
to him, not just for yourself. And part of the
reason it is so important to grow up as a
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Christian and get on with living the life he intended.
Is it when you grow up, when you're mature, and
this happens hopefully to dads and moms and couples.
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You know, you realize it's not all about.
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Me, And when you grow up there are certain things
that are about you, but you don't Your prayers are
not even all about you. Oh God, do this for me.
You get your stuff covered, you go, you know what.
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I'm good.
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I'm here to talk about some other people. I'm here
because I got friends and family in trouble or strangers
that I've met.
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And now you're reaching out to other people.
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John Wooden, basketball coach said, I worry that business leaders
are more interested in material gain than they are and
having the patience to build up a strong organization, and
a strong organization starts with caring for their people.
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Are your people? Okay?
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So one of the things I'm not sure how successful
I am around here doing this, but I try to
spend time with our staff and we go to lunch
and we sit and we talk and say, well, what
do you talk about in those staff meetings? You cover
a lot of business stuff And the answer is actually no.
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You say, well why not?
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Because the worst thing in the world for a person
to feel, unless it's by God himself, is used You
don't care about me. You just care about using me
to get some job done. And if we don't know
each other and we don't take care of each other,
then you start feeling like you just need somebody to serve,
which means you need a job done. You really don't
want to get involved with me. You just need the
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work covered. And so, as a church, whether it's staff
or whether it's small group leaders, whatever it is, you say, well,
how can you take care of a big church? If
you're doing your job as a pastor, you equip the
saints for the work of the ministry, and so you
take care of people who take care of people, who
take care of people, and it moves out and everybody goes, wow,
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I feel so loved, I feel so taken care of.
And that's how it's supposed to work. Go to Psalm
twenty three. Some of you know this heart, and oddly enough,
in our world today, some people, if I say the
twenty third Psalm, they do not have a clue what
I'm even talking about, and might see some of it
and recognize it. But do not assume that people know
the scriptures anymore. They do not slow down, don't make
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these assumptions. The twenty third psalm is a psalm of
David became King David. But before he was King David,
he was the youngest kid in this house.
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He was a shepherd. He was brilliant.
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He was valiant, good looking kid who got passed over
when they were picking a king when the prophet shows
up to pick a king, and like, none of the
brothers are it? You got anybody else? And when David
shows up, he goes there. He is right, He's the
guy not afraid. And as a shepherd, he had a
relationship with his sheep. And I'm sure we don't have
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a ton of shepherds in the room or beyond, because
that's just not much of a thing anymore, at least
unless you live in a agrarian situation. But real shepherds
that have flocks of sheep that have to be moved
and cared for, and if they fall over, you got
to help them up. I mean, sheep are pretty stupid animals.
I'm not making any inferences here. I'm just telling you
about sheep.
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They are difficult animals.
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They can get bugs in their ears, they can just
all kind of nightmares with sheep. Without a shepherd, they
don't do well, And so David knew what it was
to be a shepherd, to care for sheep, to lead sheep.
Then he writes this, the Holy Spirit writes through him,
and he says, in regard to his relationship with the Lord,
he is a shepherd.
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But now he says, the Lord is my shepherd.
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And there are people that say, well, there's too many
songs that are about me, me, me, me, me. You
can't get much more me, me, me personal than this.
He didn't say here the Lord is our shepherd. He said,
the Lord is my shepherd. At some point it has
to get personal. You have to reach a point in
your life where this is not just God caring about
the whole world, everybody out there.
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You got to be able to climb in a.
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Closet somewhere, look in the mirror and say, no, matter
what happens in my life, I know that God.
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Cares about me personally. You say, but what about other people?
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You will never care about other people more than you
care about yourself. And you will never care about yourself
until you understand that God cares about you. Because if
you're trying to care about other people and your battery
is dead you got no juice. You're trying to jump
off somebody and help them when you're not feeling good
about yourself. So this simple phrase here, the Lord is
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my shepherd. The stuff that's built into that statement alone
is extraordinary. Because David was a shepherd, and when he
was able to say the Lord is my shepherd, then
everything that went with David taking care of his sheep
now is transferred onto God, saying, in the same way
that I know what it is to care for my sheep,
I know he cares that way for me. For me,
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the Lord is my shepherd. And because of that what
I shall not want? So you say, well, if God
cares so much about me, then what why am I
stuck here by myself? Why do I not have a job,
Why can I not find food? Why does no one
call me? Why am I laying here in a nursing
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home and my own kids, even if they could, wouldn't
come to see me, and I will die here alone.
You cannot put all of that off on a God
who cares about you just because other people don't. You
have to trust that he cares about you and he
has not abandoned you. He will never leave you, never
forsake you. And one of the reasons unless you lose
your ever loving mind, that it is so important to
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store scriptures. You say, well, why would you need to
memorize scripture?
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Why do I need?
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And the scriptures describe the scriptures as the only attack weapon.
You have the word of God, the sword of the Spirit,
which is the word of God. That is all you
have to attack. So let me tell you what I
don't even know about yet. There may come a day
when you fight a battle by yourself, and you might
be laying in the fetal position when you fight it,
and all you will have is your walk with the
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Lord and the word of the Lord. And when the
enemy comes and says you've been abandoned in the valley
of the Shadow of Death, you'll be able to come
back and say that is not true. I'm just on
my way in. I'm on my way through. He will
not leave me here. Keep reading. The Lord is my shepherd.
I shall not want, I will not want for anything.
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He makes me to lie down in green pastures. He's
not taking me out of some dirt road.
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Somewhere.
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He finds me lush grass and I lie down in
green pastures. He leads me beside still waters, easier to
drink from still waters and moving waters. He restores my soul.
He leads me in the paths of righteousness. And look
at this, not for my name's sake, not for my sake,
for his Name's sake. Yea, though I walk through the
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valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.
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Why would you fear no evil?
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If you're walking through the valley of the shadow of death? Literally,
why would you fear no evil? Look what he says
you for you are with me. Now this is Old Testament.
In the New Testament, something amazing changes. God goes from
just being with people and on people the spirit of
God to he literally says, I will make you the
temple of the Holy Spirit.
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I'm not going to be in buildings on the planet anymore.
You are my new building.
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And so as a Christian literally God himself somehow, and
I'm saying this all out loud, and I can read
it to you, I do not comprehend this. Somehow, the
same God that made the entire universe, I stand here
in this body. That same God has chosen because I
have trusted in him, and He chose me and called
me to himself, and I responded, and he said, I'm
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not gonna come live with you. I'm gonna come live
in you. And so somehow I have the God that
created the universe living inside this body.
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What is possible?
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Then? Of whom will I be afraid? Who do you
have that you can bring and confront me with? You say, well,
I could bring big, bad people, guns, knives, whatever, whatever
you bring. They are not greater than the God that's
in me. Greater is he who is in me than
anything or any in the world. You stay, but they
can kill you. They can kill this house. They cannot
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kill me or my God. If you take me out,
he takes me out to a place that He's prepared
for me, so I can't lose. You said, well, why
do you talk about things like that, because you're going
to get in a spot sooner or later where you
better know these things, and whether you feel like God
cares or anybody else cares or not, even if you
don't care anymore, you better have stuff that you can
roll tape on and say, Okay, what do I know
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to be true for a fact, whether I feel it
or not. And that's where you roll Scripture and what
God has said from his word, and you know that
to be true for yourself. Yathl, I walk to the
valley of the shadow of death. I will fear no evil,
for you are with me. Your rod, your staff, they
comfort me. Rods and staffs were used to protect from
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outside enemies, but also to move the sheep along.
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We'll just say so.
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There's great comfort in knowing that God will not only
protect you from an enemy, but protect you from yourself
by disciplining us.
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And we're not crazy about this all the time, but
it's a good thing.
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To have a God who cares enough to discipline and
say you're out of line. I'm going to get your attention.
We're not doing this anymore. You can still do it
if you want to. It's the old thing Claude used
to tell me. The old man that discipled me, said, Richard,
God will never make you do anything. He will just
make you wish you had. So remember that you can
do whatever you want to do. That's a fact. You
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just won't want to at some point because the dial
gets turned enough, you say I'm out. You prepare a
table before me in the presence of my enemies.
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You anoint my head with oil.
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My cup runs over, and these things I'm not going
to get into all don't have time to get into this.
But a sheep with oil poured on them protected him
from bugs and all kind of stuff. Just the imagery
is amazing. My cup runs over? Does your cup run over?
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See?
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If all you got is my life sucks, Nobody cares
about me.
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God doesn't care about me.
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If you would stop for just a second, if you've
got food to eat and clothes to wear, and you
have any health, you have any strength, and you know
God cares about you, you need to start rolling those
tapes and not the pity party. You need to get
around people say, dude, come on, let's go. You're gonna
be okay, don't be by yourself. And one of the
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nightmares of isolation is that people get alone. And what
do wolves do with isolated sheep. They start yacking on,
chewing on them, biting on them, telling them a bunch
of lies. And before you know what, you believe all that,
surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days
of my life.
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So what did he know? He's leading me somewhere.
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Look at this, Lord's my shepherd, and he's leading me
in these places, But what is following your life? Goodness
and mercy are pulling up the rear. So maybe a
simple question, all right, now, think about this. If you
have a shepherd like the Lord who cares about you,
and it's working with him, and it's working with you,
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then ever, everywhere I go, what do I leave in
my wake? Goodness mercy, So the lives that I impact,
the people that I'm around when I walk away, when
I move on, they experience it's like goodness just came
into their life, Mercy just came into their life. Is
that what is following us around all day long? It
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is impossible for a world not to know that, at
least we care if that is what's following us around
every day of our lives, because they will know if
there's goodness dispensed by us, mercy dispensed by us, because
we've experienced all that from God and they're getting a
taste of that, they'll go, Wow, somebody does care. And
then the last phrase, and I will dwell in the
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House of the Lord forever.
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And I can't get my head around it.
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I was talking to one of my girls about eternity
the other day, and she finally said, Dad, I can't
talk about this anymore. It's too much. I get too anxious.
It's just too much. You can't get your head around it.
The great thing about heaven, before we get there, I
can read all the verses that we got in the scriptures,
in the Book of Revelation, anywhere else, that He's preparing
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a place for us. You have no idea. I has
not seen, nor ear heard, nor has entered into the
heart of me. No one's even thought about it. The
things that God has prepared for those who love him.
And you say, well, you know, I'd rather be in
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hell with my friends. And I don't say this lightly.
That will not be hard to pull off, because all
you have to do when somebody tells you that God
loves you, that Jesus died on the cross is just
say who cares? Dude, who cares? And then you'll end
up separated from him eternally. But I promise you this,
and people give me a hard time about my tears,
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you will remember that a man somewhere in your lifetime
wept over you your soul and tried to explain in
the words that he had that you don't want to
miss heaven, and you don't want to miss him here,
because whatever you can come up with in this life,
you will never come up with what He has for you,
nothing better than what He has for you, even if
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it involves pain and suffering. You will never come up
with anything that will bring more joy, more peace, more satisfaction,
more love than what God has for you. If you
will give him your life, take his life Matthew six
twenty five. Therefore, I say to you, do not worry
about your life. What you will eat or what you
will drink, nor about your body. What you will put
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on is not life more than food in the body
more than clothing. Now, those are basic things that He
promised he provide, But is it life even more than
those things? Look at the birds of the air, for
they neither sow, nor reap, nor gather into barns that
your father feeds them. Are you not of more value
than they? And I've asked this and read this before.
The question is are you more valuable than a bird?
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And if the answer is no, you're in trouble. How
can God care more about a bird than he cares
about you? The truth of the matter is he does
care more about you it doesn't mean to don't.
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Care about birds. He cares about you.
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He send his son to die on a cross, be
buried and raised in the dead, to rescue and save you.
He's gonna feed the birds he's trying to save you.
Are you not of more value than they? Which of
you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies
of the field, how they grow? They neither toil nor spind.
Yet I say to you that even Solomon, in all
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of his glory, was not arrayed like one of these.
All his clothes can out do a flower of the field. Now,
if God so close the grass of the field, which
today is and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will
he not much more clothe you?
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Oh, you have little faith. Therefore, do not worry, saying
what are we gonna eat? What are we gonna drink?
What are we gonna wear? For after all.
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These things the gentiles seek. But your heavenly Father knows
that you need these things. But seek first the Kingdom
of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be.
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Added to you.
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Therefore, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry
about its own thing. Sufficient for the day is its
own trouble. So you just at some point you got
to go, Okay, God, you're gonna take care of me.
I'm going to take care of you. So what about
the benz? What about the bens? Am I still going
to get the bends? Why don't we start with food
and clothing? And if I think somewhere down the road
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you could handle a bens, maybe, but if not, forget
the bens. I'm not talking about the benz. I'm talking
about a car. So last one, first Peter five. First
Peter five starts out with some shepherd stuff, again addressed
to elders. We've got four elders in this church, and
they do it tremendous men, tremendous job.
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Verse one. The elders who are among you, I exhort I.
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Who am a fellow elder and a witness of the
sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory
that will be revealed.
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Shepherd the flock of.
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God which is among you, which just using the word
shepherd means care for the people. And I gets we
may not be doing a great job, but I'm going
to tell you straight up, and I try to say
this all the time. I love you, You some of
you out there watching and don't even know you yet.
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I love you.
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See how he loved me because God came along and
decided he loved me, and he didn't know me, he
knew of me. But now I'm in a relationship with him,
so I understand God loves me. I have love for him,
now I have loved for myself. Now I've got love
for you. That's just the way it works. Well, why
would you care about what happens to me? Because He
cared about what happened to me, and he sent me
people who cared about me and helped me and walked
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with me and have gotten.
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Me to this point and are still around to help me.
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Hit the finish line. So elders supposed to love people,
take care of people. Then what happens. You go, Wow,
I feel cared for somebody does care. I'm gonna take
care of somebody else. And then all of a sudden,
you're a part of a family where nobody.
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Gets left out.
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Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving
as overseers, not by compulsion, but willingly not for dishonest gain,
but eagerly, not as being lords over those entrusted to you,
but being examples to the flock. And when the chief
shepherd appears, you'll receive the crown of glory that does
not fade away. Hey, likewise, you younger people, submit yourselves
to your elders. Let me tell you something about this.
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I talked to all these people. I don't need a church,
you know. I like hopping around from churches.
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You got zero verses for hopping. You need to hop.
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Yourself right into a church somewhere and get under some authority,
some supervision, where somebody knows who you are, can care
about you and say, dude, this is never gonna work.
You know why you like hopping around? You don't anybody
knowing what you're doing. And about the time they figure
out you're full of it, Oh, the Lord's led me
somewhere else. Know, the wolf in sheep's clothing has said,
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we got to get out of here because they figured
out you're full of it. You younger people submit yourselves
to your elders. Yes, all of you being submissive to
one another and be clothed with humility. Why for God
resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. Therefore,
verse six, humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God,
that He may exalt you in due time, casting all
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your care upon him, for he cares, or you stop
taking your life to everyone but the one who cares
and who gave his life for you.
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He said, well, I'm gonna take it to Jesus, and
he's gonna.
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He's gonna tell me no, and I don't want to know,
so I'm gonna go do what I want to do.
And you're gonna burn up a year, five years, ten years,
twenty years, forty years, chasing your own silly idea, and
then you're gonna end up right back where you should
have been in the first place, going I screwed up.
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I get it your back. Let's pick up where we
left off, except that you burned forty years.
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Who's got forty years to burn just chasing stuff that evaporates.
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I kind of wish I had somebody to get here
and sing this right now.
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And I may or may not be able to read this,
but oddly enough, Dolly Parton and Zach Williams have a song,
and I'm gonna read it to you every time I
try to make it on my own. Every time I
try to stand, I start to fall. And all those
lonely roads that I have traveled on, there was Jesus
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when the life I built and crashing to the ground,
when the friends I had were nowhere to be found.
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I couldn't see it then, but I can see it now.
There was Jesus in.
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The waiting, in the searching, in the healing, in the hurting,
like a blessing buried in the broken pieces. Every minute,
every moment, where I've been and where I'm going, even
where I didn't know it or couldn't see it, there
was Jesus for this man who needs amazing kind of grace,
for forgiveness and a price I couldn't pay. I'm not perfect,
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so I thank you God. Every day there was Jesus.
There was Jesus on the mountains, in the valleys. There
was Jesus in the shadows or the alleys. There was
Jesus in the fire, in the flood. There was Jesus
always is and always was. No I never walk alone,
never walk alone. You're always there in the waiting, in
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the searching, in the in the hurting, like a blessing.
Buried in the broken pieces, every minute, every moment, where
I've been, where I'm going, even when I didn't know
it or couldn't see it, there was Jesus.
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Richard will be back in a moment to wrap up
today's talk, but first I want to share a couple
of thoughts with you.
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Let's be honest.
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Real life isn't about living some highlight reel for others
to see. Most people have deep hurts, questions and struggles. Well,
we get it, and we want to help you in
any way we can. So let's keep this conversation going.
You can give us a call anytime at eight five
five six Richard, or connect with us at our website,
richardellistalks dot com. You can even put in your prayer
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request right there on the prayer wall. Call us at
eight five five six Richard or online at richardellistalks dot com.
And now let's get back to Richard with a final
word on today's show.
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You see who cares. I'll tell you who cares. Jesus cares.
You got to give him a chance to care, let him.
And that's a simple thing. So if somebody in this
room or beyond would say okay, I've since that he's
been around me my whole life, and I've stiffed armed
him and locked him out and acted like I didn't
need him. I'm tired, I'm weak, I'm warned. I can't
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say no anymore. So pray this simple prayer. Dear God.
I know that I'm a sinner. I believe that Jesus
died on the cross, was buried and raised from the dead.
He shed his blood for me to pay for my sin,
and was buried raise from the dead, and he's offered
me eternal life is a free gift. Abundant life a
free gift. The forgiveness of my sins, a free gift,
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like starting all over again, like being born a second time.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
I asked you to come live.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
In me, through me, change me, show me how you
want me to live, and answer for my eternity and
answer between here and there. Thank you for loving me,
for caring about me personally, and that now you're not
just around me, You're in me.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
You're not just with me. I'm yours and your mind.
Thank you for saving me.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
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Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah.