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If you reject anyone based on illegitimate criteria, you have
rejected God.
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Doctor Tony Evans explains that passionate believers are peacemakers.
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And what greater test is there for how hungry you
are from God, then your willingness to receive grace and
then at the same time to give it to somebody else.
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This is the alternative broadcast featuring the timeless Biblical teachings
from the archives of doctor Tony Evans. Like electricity flows
through a power line, God's grace is intended to flow
through us to others today, Doctor Evans explains what needs
to happen if something's blocking that flow. Let's turn to
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Ephesians chapter two. As he begins.
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Jesus pray to prayer prior to his crucifixion in light
of the fact that he would be crucified in John seventeen,
he says these words in the midst of his prayer.
In verse twenty one, he says to his father, and
I pray that they all may be one, even as
Thou Father art in me and I in them, that
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they also may be in us. That the world may
believe that Thou did send me Jesus praised this prayer
prior to his death, that his children, the Church would
no longer be divided by the evil one, but would
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be one. Another word for unity, Unity is not uniformity.
Unity is uniqueness, moving to a common goal. For the
Father is not the Son, and the Son is not
the Spirit. They just all have the same essence, the
essence of deity. He says that they might be like us.
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When Jesus Christ said on the cross, my God, my God,
why halse thou forsaken me? He wasn't talking to himself.
It was the son talking to the Father. For the
Father is not the son. The Son is not the Spirit.
The Spirit is not the Father. But all three make
up the one Godhead. He says that they may be
in us, that is one in purpose and nature, distinct
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in personhood.
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That's the Trinity.
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And his prayer was that when he left, God would
bring about unity in history through the Church for a purpose,
and that is that the world may know.
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That I'm the real deal. So dynamic was this prayer.
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That God has made the content of this prayer Jesus's
prayer for oneness a criteria for an individual's.
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Relationship with him.
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God has made our fellowship and intimacy with Him contingent
on our relationship with other believers. Therefore, any believer who
uses a false criteria for measuring another Christian, and a
false criteria is face race or place whenever illegitimate criteria
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is huge to judge another brother, or another sister, or
another group of brothers or another group of sisters, no
matter which way it goes, what God wants you to
know is that there will be no intimacy with him.
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Now, that explains a lot this issue.
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The prayer of Jesus is so serious to God that
he says he will relate to you based on what
part you're playing and answering this prayer.
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Ephesians, chapter two.
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One of Paul's great passages on this subject, was right
on target because the first ten verses of chapter two
talked about grace. He says in verse five, by grace,
have you been saved? Verse seven, that in the ages
to come he may show forth his grace. He says
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in verse eight, You've been saved by grace through faith.
He comes in verses eleven through twenty two to discuss
race because Paul had a social problem on his hand,
and that is that Jews and Gentiles were getting saved
and were now coming to the same church. They had
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the church at Ephesus. So if you were a Christian
and you went to church, you went to emphasis Bible
fellowship because that was the only game in town. Everything
else was paganism. To Lore, this is where you had
to go to church. The problem was the Jews came
with their history, background, culture, and traditions. The Tiles came
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with that history, background, culture, and traditions, and they were
totally opposite. Not only did they come with their background,
they came with name calling verse eleven. Therefore, remember that
formerly the gentiles in the flesh who were called uncircumcision,
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So they came from a world that called folk names.
So this name calling thing not new they had in
a new Testament because that was the criteria. So the
Bible is not written in a vacuum. This is not theory.
Paul had a problem on his hands, but in addressing
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the problem, he starts off with grace. We want to
spend all our time starting off with race. He said, no,
let me spend the first ten verses telling you where
you were when you found grace. Now we can start
talking about race. And then he introduces the word in
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this section, and you know it's the theme of the
section because of the repetition.
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And it's the word peace. Verse fourteen. He is our peace.
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The end verse fifteen, thus establishing peace verse seventeen, that
he came and preached peace to you who were near,
and peace to those far away, and peace to those
who were near.
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What he says in.
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This passage is that the issue of unity has allready
followed us, now been solved. It has already been addressed.
Now why do I know that because the Father never
says no to the son, that that is, except on
the cross, but apart from the cross, because that was
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in bearing our sin. The Father all does what the
Sun requests, and the sun requested in John seventeen.
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That God might make them one.
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So the death of Jesus Christ, according to verse thirteen.
But now in Christ, you formerly were far off have
been brought near by the blood of Christ, for he
is our peace. Mortal enemies have been reconciled jew gentile, black, white,
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whatever color you want to choose. Once a person comes
to faith in Jesus Christ, they come into a realm
known as peace. If you're trying to create unity. You're
wasting your time because if the Cross can't do it
talking about for Christians death, If the Chross can't do it,
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then what makes you think you, you, or me and
our feeble humanity.
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Can do what cavalry can accomplish.
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We spend too much time apart from cavalry trying to
solve a problem that cavalry has already addressed. This means
that nobody, based on race or color, or class or denomination,
or any of the artificial barriers we bring up, has
any spiritual advantage over anybody else. When you come through
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the door of the Family of God, your significance is
at the Cross. It's because you're running to that same grace.
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I mean, there's no.
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Difference before God between a PhD and somebody working on
their ged.
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It means this James two says, how do you discriminate.
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Against the poor man because he can't dress like you?
And you feel like you've got to go to a
church where everybody everybody makes what you make, lives where
you lives, drives what you drive, as though that's a
representation of the Family of God. Paul didn't tell the
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Jews to start a Jewish church and a gentile the
start a gentile church, He said, let me tell you
what Christ has done for the one church.
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Now people can go to whatever church they want. That's
not the point.
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The point is everybody who comes to any church must
feel equally welcomed by the Family of God because of
what the Cross has done, because they've seen how.
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Amazing grace is.
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He calls this new entity called the church in verse
fifteen by abolishing and his flesh the enmity. It's not
abolished because you have a unity meeting. It's not abolished
because you come up with this plan. It's abolished in
his flesh. He's com a cross that the death of Christ.
What the death of Christ accomplished, What spiritual unity that
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must be fleshed out, worked out in front unity. But
the foundation, he says, it was in the cross. It
was in his flesh, which is the law of commandments
contained and ordinances that in himself. Watch this he might
make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace.
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Doctor Evans will explain why embracing our identity is God's
one new Man is essential for living above the world's
fractured agenda.
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You see if you do not see yourself as belonging
to this new race, this one man, this new definition.
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All in water don't what.
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Well, that's not quite right. All in water don't normally mix.
There is an exception.
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You put oil and water together and you shake it up.
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It looks like it mixes for a while, but then
the oil will separate from the water. Because the conventioner
thesis is oil and water don't mix. Blacks and whites
don't mix, Rich and poor don't mix. That's the lie
of the homogeneous church unit, which is basically a cold
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word for maintaining racial segregation in ecclesiastical terms, or class segregation.
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They don't mix. They have two distincts. Every time you shake.
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Them together, you push them together, they won't come together.
And if they come together, they won't stay together. Well,
there is an exception. The exception is when you're using immulsifier.
You see, the job of an emulsifier is to take
the unmixable and so work at their fundamental definition that
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that which could not be mixed is now mixed. You see,
mayonnaise has water and mayonnaise has oil. But you don't
have a problem with oil and water mixing because the
immusifier in mayonnaise is egg. What egg does is it
grabs hold of oil and it grabs hold of water,
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and it so taintens them together that you and I
can now have a ham sandwich that.
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Tastes good.
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Because eggs serve as an immulsifier. Yes, in the world,
blocks and whites don't mix in the world.
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Rich and poured don't mix in the world. That is
how it is.
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But the death of Jesus Christ and his blood is
God's amusifier, and.
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His job is to make that which does not mix
mix and.
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Be beneficial when it does mix. There is a magnificent
portrait painting for us when people are hungry for God.
On a cross cultural, cross racial, cross class, cross educational line,
Revelation five. This is a view of Heaven. The same
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author who wrote John and First John wrote Revelation John
the Revelator. God took him up and gave him a
preview of heaven.
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He said, John, take a look up in heaven. Let me,
let me, let me, let you see what you're in for.
And watch this now.
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And they sang a new song, saying, worthy art thou
to take the book and break it seals for thou,
wast slave, and did purchase for God with thy blood
from every tribe, tongue, people, and nation. If you don't
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read that closely, you're.
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Gonna miss it. It happened. This is in heaven, folks.
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John looks up and guess what he sees from every nation,
every tribe, every kindred and every language group. Oh, I
see some of you not with me.
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We talk about in heaven the future, he.
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Says, when I looked up and I saw what the
future was gonna be like, I saw folk up there
from every people group, every national group. They even got
broke down in the tribes, dialects, even the subgroups I saw. Now,
what does that say to us? It says there will
be diversity in heaven. If you're black now, you're going
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to be black in heaven. If you are white now,
you are going to be white in heaven. If you're Hispanic,
you're gonna be Hispanic in heaven. Because he says, the
distinctions of Earth I saw in heaven. I saw them
in heaven. He says, I saw them from every tongue.
You say, well, how are we gonna get a law
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in heaven if folks speak in different languages when you
know every language? It does matter. What did this group
have in common? What brought this group together? How could
such a diverse group all get along up in heaven?
Because they were purchased by the same owner, he says,
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they were purchased.
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By the blood.
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That's like me going to farmer's market, and I go
to farmer's market and I buy something from every stand.
I just say, okay, you have this kind of vesketball.
I take one of this, and I take one of this,
and I take one of that, and I take one
of this, and so I make a purchase using all
I have from every stand in farmer's market. So what
I have is a representative group of vegetables or whatever
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fruit or whatever it is from every stand in Farmer's market.
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So I have a full house of fruit.
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I don't have all that was in the stand by
have a representation.
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And let me explain something.
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When God came to this culture and chose you and
you and you and you and me to be representatives
from our people group, you don't understand.
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It didn't have to be you.
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That's why it's amazing, grace. It didn't have to be you.
It could have been somebody else. But when you lose
sight of grace and think that you are more than
you ought to, think that somehow God looked in you
and you look worthy to be saved, you do not
understand grace. He says that was a common purchase, sir,
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and a common purchase price. But not only that. He
comes in verse ten and says, and God has made
them to be a kingdom and priest to our God,
and they will reign on the earth. You talked about
wall of separation. You got politics, king and you got
religion priest. The kings ruled the political order, the priest
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ruled the sacred order. He says, they are a kingdom
of priest. The wall of separation, so called, has been removed.
And now these groups are unified in their purpose. They
are just to this new kingdom. That's how it is
in heaven. But why it says they did it for God?
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Why well?
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Verse eleven tells you and I looked and heard the
voice of many angels around the throne, and the living creatures,
and the elders, and the number of them were myriads
of myriads, and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice, word,
there is a lamb that was slain to receive power
and riches and wisdom and might and honor and glory
and blessing in every creative thing which is in heaven
and on earth, and the earth and the sea, and
all things in them. I heard them say to him
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who sits on the throne, to the Lamb, be blessing
and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever.
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What's this all about. Let me tell you what it's
all about.
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The reason God is gonna have from this group and
this group, and this language and that language, and this
race and that race is because He likes to hear
worship in every imaginable form. Heaven will be filled with
diverse cultures expressing themselves in diverse ways with a singular
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focus on the one purchaser. There will be those who
worship liturgically, those who worship celebratively, those who worship quietly,
those who worship loudly, all singing the same song at
the same time to the same God who put up
the same price for all to be there. That is
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what heaven will be like. When you tune a hundred
pianos to the same tuning fork, they're automatically gonna be
tuned to each other because the same standard.
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Governed the tuning.
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You get one hundred worshipers, all tuned to the same God.
They will automatically be tuned to one another because there
are focused in the same directions. What he is saying
is heaven will be filled with the worship of God.
You say, well, that's Heaven, Thy Kingdom Come, that will
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be done on earth as it is in Heaven. It means,
if you remember grace, you'll be able to deal with
folk that you're not like a lot easier.
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If grace means anything, it means God no longer keeps scorn.
It means that every time you show up, God is not.
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Throwing in your face what you did. Grace does not
keep scorn. But on the other side, grace always recognizes
that I am not better than somebody else because of
my position, or because of my stuff, or because of
my clouse, or because of my history. Because I am
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where I am by the grace of God. That's why
it is so appropriate that Amazing Grace was written by
a slave trader. Amazing Grace was written by a putrid man.
Amazing Grace was written by a person that went over
the West Africa and blazed that trail of what was
called a railroad track underneath the Atlantic Ocean, where slaves
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were thrown over and where the shocks could anticipate. That
meals he was part of that. It is appropriate that
the greatest song in the history of Christianity, Amazing Grace,
was written by the worst man because That means if
God can save.
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Him, then he can save us. All.
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It means if heaven is going to be filled with
the diverse cultures expressing themselves in diverse ways, there's plenty of.
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Good room for you and me.
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It means if you reject anyone based on illegitimate criteria,
you have rejected God.
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And what greater test is there for how hungry you
are for God?
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Then your willingness to receive grace and then at the
same time to give it to somebody else.
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