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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Winning Walk with Doctor ed Young. Before
we get to today's message, we want to tell you
about an insightful sermon series from Dr Young called The
Church Awake. Our world is teetering on the edge of
disorder and disaster, and this series sounds an inspiring call
for the church to awaken and engage your culture with
clarity and conviction on important issues, standing confidently on truth
(00:26):
than bending to the pressures of the world. This series
is our thanks for your gift to help keep the
proven truth of God's Word reaching you and others around the.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
World through this program.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So be sure to request your copy of The Church
Awake when you give just call one eight hundred three
five oh Walk one eight hundred three five oh nine
two five five. Now let's get started with today's teaching
from Dr Young.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Your child can be dismissed by the board and none
of your money will be refunded. Come to Russia, that's
where we are. And when you build your family on sand,
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when the wind the rains, when all of this is
flung against your family, God says that family will not stand.
And many of us could give testimony to that. Many
of us could say, I understand it. Many of us
will say, in fact, that's where I am.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
But then Jesus goes on to say, but if you
build your family on rock on rock, where does that
phrase come from?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Cesri of Philippi.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Jesus took the apostles out way up at the headwaters.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Of the Jordan River.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Been there, beautiful spot, Christine and of the headwaters. Jesus
sat down with his apostles. He began to teach them,
preparing them for the storm and the winds and the
rains and all the first century wokeism they would have
to deal with. And finally he asked, well, well, guys,
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who do people say that I am?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And oh?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You get the public opinion this, that and the other.
He said, who do you say that I am?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Ho, Wait a minute, and Peter says, You're the Christ,
You're the Messiah. You're the one the Old Testament has promised.
You are God in human flesh, fulfilling all prophecy to
instruct us and give us the way of salvation now
and salvation ever.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
You are the Messiah? How did jesuspond?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
He said, Peter, flesh and blood didn't tell you this.
You didn't come through it by logic. The Holy Spirit
led you to say this, and on Peter's profession of faith.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Not on Peter, we're not part of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
On your profession of faith, said Jesus, I will build
my church, my body of activity in the world, my church.
And he says, the gates of Hell will not prevail
against my church.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But the church has to be the church. You say, well,
what's happening in our society?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Man, here you have I've already talked about before where
the grates of Hell are located. Don't forget it. There's
the gates of Hell in front of our educational system.
There's the gates of Hell before our corporate structure. There's
the gates of Hell before the media. There's the gates
of Hell wherever you turn. It says a church will
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not prevent you know words, The gates of Hell can't
keep the church out. The problem is the church has
been so dead and complacent they haven't even tried to
get in.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You and the church can be complicit in all of this.
We just joined up.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I'm just part of it, you know I do. I
want to go against the streams of history. What a
stupid statement. Well, I'm just complicit. A lot of churches,
a lot of people complicit. Oh yeah, I want to
give the program.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I want to give the problem, and a lot of
are complacent.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Man, I don't want to rock the boat. I don't
want to get into argument. I don't want to usurp
any problems. I'm gonna just get complacent. And we take
the same advice that Sam Raven gave to John Kennedy
when he went the house. Mister Kennedy asked, well, what
can I do up here in Congress? And Raymond said, well,
you when you get along, you go along. Was your
(04:58):
Tonian philosophy that is deadly then at deadly today. So
you're either complicent you joined in, or you're complacent, or
you're courageous. Are you tired of stooping folks? If there's
ever a time in history, it is a time for
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God's people to stand now.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's built. A family built on sand will not survive.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
When the storms come, but built on that profession of
faith in Jesus Christ. And by the way, let me
just tell you something a lot of people can tell
you about. You know, I've had an experience for Jesus.
I've had experience with Jesus. You know a thing about
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expirit for Jesus, It comes and goes. It's subjective. I
had an experience for Jesus. Boy, what happened to beat
your tree? That happened on a mountain, That happened in church,
It happened in Sunday schools, it happens right around.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
How had experience with Jesus? That's all great. I've had
a lot of experience with Jesus, many of you have.
But I can tell you something that's not enough, because.
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An experience of Jesus is subjective. You can't debate with
me about my experience with Jesus. I can't debate with you,
but I'll tell you what. When the storms come, you'd
better have more than just a subjective number of experience
with Jesus. You'd better have the fact of Jesus. You see,
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facts are objective. We'd better have the life of Jesus
and his teaching, which we're able to follow when we're
in Christ empowered by the Holy Spirit. And we better
understand the crucifixion of Jesus and the resurrexity.
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Those are facts.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
That's objectivity and on those facts. We have.
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Experiences are experience really to facts.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And I'll tell you our young people when they go
to college.
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They all are in the experience with Jesus.
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No, they'd better have the facts of Jesus or they'll
be shredded in that woke environment. Or you are being
shredded and you're walking back. Know the difference between subjectivity
and objectivity. Let me see if I can find an illustration.
Let me see to look around for one.
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Stand up, please, my brother? This tie?
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Can you see? It is basically red. It's not quite
as red as mine. Maybe it's the same tie. Where'd
you get that tire?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Everybody agreed that red is enough? Thank you very much?
Is that okay? It's got a little it's red. Now
I'm going to take that as an objective truth.
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Nobody doubts that this tie is primary red. Do you
anybody want to debate that?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Now?
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Speak now if I have a hole, you beast, it's red. Okay,
that's objective truth. Okay, Now I want to go down
and ask somebody.
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Else a question. That's objective truth.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Right, You can't hardly debate that means that light reflects
off the particular material in this area as red.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, not too fast in anybody, am I.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Okay, that's objective truth, and I want to tell you
about subjective truth.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Let's move down and ask some questions.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What's your favorite ice cream? Let's just take vanilla. Bluebell
is subjective, I agree with you, but vanilla mine is strawberry.
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That's subjective.
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He's wrong. I'm right. No, I'm right, he's wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, that's subjective. Red is objective. Now you have to
understand this truth. We were to get postmodernism sooner or later,
and I'm gonna explain what that means to this relative
to this, but we want to get a little nap
before breakfast in the morning.
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So when you say I've.
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Had an experience or experience with Jesus, that's that's subjective.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But that's feeling. And they come and go right. But man,
when you build.
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It home the rock objective truth, the teaching, the life,
the crucifixion, the resident of Jesus, you can't argue that
red is red. You can debate ice cream. So on
that rock, said Jesus, on your profession of faith into who.
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I am and what I'm about. That is where your salvation.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Stands and ladies and gentlemen, you can call yourself Christian
till you're.
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Blue in the faith. See the experien with Jesus.
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I walked down the aisle, I was baptized, I was confirmed,
all right. The membership is I taught a class, doesn't
mean a different the world.
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That is words.
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That is subjectivity unless your experience of.
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Jesus is based upon objective.
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Truth, and that will be there for ever and is undebatable.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And if you run around and say, boy, I love Jesus,
but I don't like his church.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oh that's like saying I love to swim and I
gotta food in my backyard, but I never never jump in. Man.
I love to go to the mountains and I have
many changes to go, but you know, I just hardly
ever go.
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Does that makes sense to anybody? Does that ring true?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
That's hearing and professing that subjectivity. But objectivity is, man,
That's just where I want to be and to whom.
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I want to belong.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Built on the rock, solid rock, which is Jesus Christ.
That's what has to be in a marriage and a family.
If it is not only to survive, but it is
to thrive, and it is to sing. So a family
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built on sand slammed, slammed, crumbles, A family build on
rock slam.
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Stands. What's the difference? The foundation? The foundation? Over eighty
times in the Bible of the word foundation.
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Is mentioned over eighty times, and Jesus says, it's the foundation,
is it saying to Rock I go to your house,
your home, one room, seven hundred rooms, I'm make you
a difference. When I go in, I'll look at the
decor and I look at you know, just casually, how
you live.
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And it's comfortable. It's fine.
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I don't you don't go in and say I want
to show you my foundation my house.
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Look at here.
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But what's the most important. It's the unseen foundation, ladies
and gentlemen. And we don't notice we have a foundation
until cracks begin to come. Maybe a fisher begins to come,
and somehow the house begins to tilt a little bit.
You say, my goodness, I have foundational problems. What's the foundation,
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the genuine foundation of your life and your family and
who you are and who I am.
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The leaning Tira.
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Pisa, not pizza, the leaning tire of Pisa. It had
been erected way back and finish at about thirteen hundred,
and it had already begun to lean back then. Why
the word Pisa means marsh. It was built on marshy land,
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and the foundation only ten feet down.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's this one hundred and seventy nine feet high. It began
to lean. It was leaning.
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Until fairly recently, a few years ago, they went in
and re established the foundation, or it would have fallen down.
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It would have fallen down.
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A lot of people need not just to hear what
Christ has seemed to us today in this world culture.
We need to awaken and check our foundation, our faithfulness,
our discipline, our walk, our adc Christianity that is based
certainly on experience with Jesus. Don't misunderstand that. But it
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based on the fact of Jesus. That's objective truth. On
objective truth, we can have wonderful, emotional, life changing experiences.
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It's the foundation.
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I haven't told this story to maybe a handful of people,
but almost nineteen years has gone by. I want to
tell you how important a foundation is not only in
a family, but in a business or corporation. I knew
ken lay See of n Run at one time the
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seventh largest corporation in the world, let me say upfront,
to my knowledge, in Ron or kin Laan never gave
any money of this church or to me. I have
to say that some of you would know that. I'm
just say that as a as a presupposition. I'm going
to tell you I knew you Ken because of family
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and employees in the church.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I knew in primarily when.
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The bottom fell out in Houston, all these hurricanes that
would come, all the sos.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Things will come in Ron led and was the example.
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Of charity giving personally in corporate in every kind of crisis,
every kind of non profit in this city for a
long time. I know that that's true. He set the
pace for Exxon and all the rest of them.
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I know that.
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So I knew can through that because our church, as
you know, has always rolled up our sleeves and cleaned
houses and done whatever it takes to love the people
when the bottom had fall out of their life.
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Right, that's just who we are, folks.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We've always been there with our money in, with our shweat.
So Enron had imploded, I've.
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Read the book. I didn't know a lot about their business.
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I knew they were moving from tangible assets to some
kind of paper assets. The advertised they had hired the
best of the brightest, and I think you see evidence
of that in some areas. But all of a sudden
there was a wake up. One day they owed over
thirty billion dollars. Their stockholders thought they were booming, but
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in actuality they were totally bankrupt and failing and going
out of business.
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So in almost zigzag lightning.
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Time, the whole house of cards came ton zip boom.
The sign on the building was sold, auction was sold,
the goods were sold. All of a sudden, there's this
magnificent building in Houston and other entities around the world,
literally India, China, you name it.
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It was all gone.
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The thesis was that the stockholders did not know the condition.
This is before all the trials were held and sentences
were pronounced. But at that moment, when the building was
virtually empty and stripped, I got a call from Kinlay.
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He asked me to come up there. I don't know,
like ten o'clock at night. I drove up there with
the elevator and as far as I know, there was
not a living soul in that building except security guards
and just the lay. I got on the elevator, I
went up to his office. He was seated at his
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desk alone, nobody there.
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I walked in. Lights were very dim. It was very I.
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Don't know if any light were on except the light
on his desk. I greeted him, sat down. We talked
a little bit, and he said pastor, and I was
not his pastor, but said, I want to show you something.
So he reached in the desk and he pulled out
the mission statement of Rome and he read it to me,
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and I read it, and I can tell you, ladies
and gentlemen, I'm not a scholar on the mission statement
of a corporation, but I challenge anyone to write one
better than the mission statement they had as to how
in Ron was to work, operate, perform for people, for
the public, for their employees. It was a magnificent statement
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of how a corporation or to operate in this world.
I couldn't improve on it. Maybe somebody you could. I couldn't.
It was wonderful. And after he read it and I
read it in the darkened room, he said, this is
the foundation.
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Upon which this corporation was built.
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Some of the conversation with private we knelt and prayed
in tears I walked out, left him in that semi
darkened room alone, the elephant in the room.
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You already know what it is. The question that was
not asked. What happened to Ron?
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Very simple. There was a statement of foundation that was
not lived up to, was not applied, was not reminded
people of was not hired of them.
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They lost their foundation.
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And that can happen in a family, It can happen
in one of the most powerful corporations in the world,
and it can happen anytime anywhere.
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It is a foundation.
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Ladies and gentlemen, that we have to remember, is built
on the rock of Jesus Christ, if anything is to
stand in the realm of the family.
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It was.
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Nine forty one am in Hawaii and a Gold Airliner,
little commuter airline there in the Islands, was flying from
Honolulu to Heilo on the Big Island. Their liner was
full of families, honeymooners, commuters, joyful spirit there in the
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morning going to the Big Island. My goodness, clear skies.
But as they it was about a forty four minute flight.
But as they got toward Helo, a father on the
plane with his wife and his children of vacation. They
noticed the plane continued to fly after you at about
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twenty one twenty two thousand feet and went right over
the airport.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And he noticed and he said.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know, that's weird. They're just continuing to go. There's
no weather part. They're just continued to fly.
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Out to sea. And he noticed that.
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His last name was Lenning. He began to question some
things and what he did not know. For seventeen minutes,
air traffic controllers had been trying to get communication with
the two pilots the plane, and they'd had no response.
The plane had fuel to fly only ninety miles and.
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They just flew right over the airport.
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They were heading out then the Pacific Ocean, soon being
unable to turn back, and they kept trying to contact them,
in contact them, I don't know if the flight attendants
to mister Lennon began to knock on the door. Finally
they heard the pius because they had both gone to sleep.
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Dead asleep. Fortunately they awakened and they turned around and.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
They put all the other airplanes going to Maui into
Big Islands the side because they got back with just
enough fuel to come and land the plane safely. I
want to ask everybody a very personal question. Everybody who's
piloting your family, the culture.
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The schools, their friends. Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Something, folks, the father in the pilot's seat, the mother
and the co pilot.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Seat, and they can exchange feet.
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I'm going to tell you, if we're going to survive
in this generation, we better wake up.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Jesus gave us clear instructions in the Sermon of the Mound.
He said, if you want a.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Home that is built on a solid foundation, one that
can withstand the storms that will inevitably come, you must
be wise individual who builds his house up on the rock,
which is Jesus Christ. We not only hear his words,
but we put them into practice in our daily lives.
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This is the beginning of building a foundation that will stand.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
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God's Word,
Welcome to the Winning Walk with Doctor ed Young. Before
we get to today's message, we want to tell you
about an insightful sermon series from Dr Young called The
Church Awake. Our world is teetering on the edge of
disorder and disaster, and this series sounds an inspiring call
for the church to awaken and engage your culture with
clarity and conviction on important issues, standing confidently on truth
(00:26):
than bending to the pressures of the world. This series
is our thanks for your gift to help keep the
proven truth of God's Word reaching you and others around the.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
World through this program.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So be sure to request your copy of The Church
Awake when you give just call one eight hundred three
five oh Walk one eight hundred three five oh nine
two five five. Now let's get started with today's teaching
from Dr Young.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Your child can be dismissed by the board and none
of your money will be refunded. Come to Russia, that's
where we are. And when you build your family on sand,
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when the wind the rains, when all of this is
flung against your family, God says that family will not stand.
And many of us could give testimony to that. Many
of us could say, I understand it. Many of us
will say, in fact, that's where I am.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
But then Jesus goes on to say, but if you
build your family on rock on rock, where does that
phrase come from?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Cesri of Philippi.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Jesus took the apostles out way up at the headwaters.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Of the Jordan River.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Been there, beautiful spot, Christine and of the headwaters. Jesus
sat down with his apostles. He began to teach them,
preparing them for the storm and the winds and the
rains and all the first century wokeism they would have
to deal with. And finally he asked, well, well, guys,
(02:20):
who do people say that I am?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And oh?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You get the public opinion this, that and the other.
He said, who do you say that I am?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Ho, Wait a minute, and Peter says, You're the Christ,
You're the Messiah. You're the one the Old Testament has promised.
You are God in human flesh, fulfilling all prophecy to
instruct us and give us the way of salvation now
and salvation ever.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
You are the Messiah? How did jesuspond?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
He said, Peter, flesh and blood didn't tell you this.
You didn't come through it by logic. The Holy Spirit
led you to say this, and on Peter's profession of faith.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Not on Peter, we're not part of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
On your profession of faith, said Jesus, I will build
my church, my body of activity in the world, my church.
And he says, the gates of Hell will not prevail
against my church.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But the church has to be the church. You say, well,
what's happening in our society?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Man, here you have I've already talked about before where
the grates of Hell are located. Don't forget it. There's
the gates of Hell in front of our educational system.
There's the gates of Hell before our corporate structure. There's
the gates of Hell before the media. There's the gates
of Hell wherever you turn. It says a church will
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not prevent you know words, The gates of Hell can't
keep the church out. The problem is the church has
been so dead and complacent they haven't even tried to
get in.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You and the church can be complicit in all of this.
We just joined up.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I'm just part of it, you know I do. I
want to go against the streams of history. What a
stupid statement. Well, I'm just complicit. A lot of churches,
a lot of people complicit. Oh yeah, I want to
give the program.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I want to give the problem, and a lot of
are complacent.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Man, I don't want to rock the boat. I don't
want to get into argument. I don't want to usurp
any problems. I'm gonna just get complacent. And we take
the same advice that Sam Raven gave to John Kennedy
when he went the house. Mister Kennedy asked, well, what
can I do up here in Congress? And Raymond said, well,
you when you get along, you go along. Was your
(04:58):
Tonian philosophy that is deadly then at deadly today. So
you're either complicent you joined in, or you're complacent, or
you're courageous. Are you tired of stooping folks? If there's
ever a time in history, it is a time for
(05:21):
God's people to stand now.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's built. A family built on sand will not survive.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
When the storms come, but built on that profession of
faith in Jesus Christ. And by the way, let me
just tell you something a lot of people can tell
you about. You know, I've had an experience for Jesus.
I've had experience with Jesus. You know a thing about
(06:30):
expirit for Jesus, It comes and goes. It's subjective. I
had an experience for Jesus. Boy, what happened to beat
your tree? That happened on a mountain, That happened in church,
It happened in Sunday schools, it happens right around.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
How had experience with Jesus? That's all great. I've had
a lot of experience with Jesus, many of you have.
But I can tell you something that's not enough, because.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
An experience of Jesus is subjective. You can't debate with
me about my experience with Jesus. I can't debate with you,
but I'll tell you what. When the storms come, you'd
better have more than just a subjective number of experience
with Jesus. You'd better have the fact of Jesus. You see,
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facts are objective. We'd better have the life of Jesus
and his teaching, which we're able to follow when we're
in Christ empowered by the Holy Spirit. And we better
understand the crucifixion of Jesus and the resurrexity.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Those are facts.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
That's objectivity and on those facts. We have.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Experiences are experience really to facts.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And I'll tell you our young people when they go
to college.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
They all are in the experience with Jesus.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
No, they'd better have the facts of Jesus or they'll
be shredded in that woke environment. Or you are being
shredded and you're walking back. Know the difference between subjectivity
and objectivity. Let me see if I can find an illustration.
Let me see to look around for one.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Stand up, please, my brother? This tie?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Can you see? It is basically red. It's not quite
as red as mine. Maybe it's the same tie. Where'd
you get that tire?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Everybody agreed that red is enough? Thank you very much?
Is that okay? It's got a little it's red. Now
I'm going to take that as an objective truth.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Nobody doubts that this tie is primary red. Do you
anybody want to debate that?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Now?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Speak now if I have a hole, you beast, it's red. Okay,
that's objective truth. Okay, Now I want to go down
and ask somebody.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Else a question. That's objective truth.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Right, You can't hardly debate that means that light reflects
off the particular material in this area as red.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, not too fast in anybody, am I.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Okay, that's objective truth, and I want to tell you
about subjective truth.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Let's move down and ask some questions.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What's your favorite ice cream? Let's just take vanilla. Bluebell
is subjective, I agree with you, but vanilla mine is strawberry.
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That's subjective.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
He's wrong. I'm right. No, I'm right, he's wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, that's subjective. Red is objective. Now you have to
understand this truth. We were to get postmodernism sooner or later,
and I'm gonna explain what that means to this relative
to this, but we want to get a little nap
before breakfast in the morning.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So when you say I've.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Had an experience or experience with Jesus, that's that's subjective.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But that's feeling. And they come and go right. But man,
when you build.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
It home the rock objective truth, the teaching, the life,
the crucifixion, the resident of Jesus, you can't argue that
red is red. You can debate ice cream. So on
that rock, said Jesus, on your profession of faith into who.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I am and what I'm about. That is where your salvation.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Stands and ladies and gentlemen, you can call yourself Christian
till you're.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Blue in the faith. See the experien with Jesus.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I walked down the aisle, I was baptized, I was confirmed,
all right. The membership is I taught a class, doesn't
mean a different the world.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That is words.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
That is subjectivity unless your experience of.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Jesus is based upon objective.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Truth, and that will be there for ever and is undebatable.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And if you run around and say, boy, I love Jesus,
but I don't like his church.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Oh that's like saying I love to swim and I
gotta food in my backyard, but I never never jump in. Man.
I love to go to the mountains and I have
many changes to go, but you know, I just hardly
ever go.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Does that makes sense to anybody? Does that ring true?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
That's hearing and professing that subjectivity. But objectivity is, man,
That's just where I want to be and to whom.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I want to belong.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Built on the rock, solid rock, which is Jesus Christ.
That's what has to be in a marriage and a family.
If it is not only to survive, but it is
to thrive, and it is to sing. So a family
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built on sand slammed, slammed, crumbles, A family build on
rock slam.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Stands. What's the difference? The foundation? The foundation? Over eighty
times in the Bible of the word foundation.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Is mentioned over eighty times, and Jesus says, it's the foundation,
is it saying to Rock I go to your house,
your home, one room, seven hundred rooms, I'm make you
a difference. When I go in, I'll look at the
decor and I look at you know, just casually, how
you live.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And it's comfortable. It's fine.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I don't you don't go in and say I want
to show you my foundation my house.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Look at here.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
But what's the most important. It's the unseen foundation, ladies
and gentlemen. And we don't notice we have a foundation
until cracks begin to come. Maybe a fisher begins to come,
and somehow the house begins to tilt a little bit.
You say, my goodness, I have foundational problems. What's the foundation,
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the genuine foundation of your life and your family and
who you are and who I am.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
The leaning Tira.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Pisa, not pizza, the leaning tire of Pisa. It had
been erected way back and finish at about thirteen hundred,
and it had already begun to lean back then. Why
the word Pisa means marsh. It was built on marshy land,
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and the foundation only ten feet down.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
It's this one hundred and seventy nine feet high. It began
to lean. It was leaning.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Until fairly recently, a few years ago, they went in
and re established the foundation, or it would have fallen down.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It would have fallen down.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
A lot of people need not just to hear what
Christ has seemed to us today in this world culture.
We need to awaken and check our foundation, our faithfulness,
our discipline, our walk, our adc Christianity that is based
certainly on experience with Jesus. Don't misunderstand that. But it
(14:33):
based on the fact of Jesus. That's objective truth. On
objective truth, we can have wonderful, emotional, life changing experiences.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's the foundation.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I haven't told this story to maybe a handful of people,
but almost nineteen years has gone by. I want to
tell you how important a foundation is not only in
a family, but in a business or corporation. I knew
ken lay See of n Run at one time the
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seventh largest corporation in the world, let me say upfront,
to my knowledge, in Ron or kin Laan never gave
any money of this church or to me. I have
to say that some of you would know that. I'm
just say that as a as a presupposition. I'm going
to tell you I knew you Ken because of family
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and employees in the church.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I knew in primarily when.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
The bottom fell out in Houston, all these hurricanes that
would come, all the sos.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Things will come in Ron led and was the example.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Of charity giving personally in corporate in every kind of crisis,
every kind of non profit in this city for a
long time. I know that that's true. He set the
pace for Exxon and all the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So I knew can through that because our church, as
you know, has always rolled up our sleeves and cleaned
houses and done whatever it takes to love the people
when the bottom had fall out of their life.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Right, that's just who we are, folks.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We've always been there with our money in, with our shweat.
So Enron had imploded, I've.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Read the book. I didn't know a lot about their business.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I knew they were moving from tangible assets to some
kind of paper assets. The advertised they had hired the
best of the brightest, and I think you see evidence
of that in some areas. But all of a sudden
there was a wake up. One day they owed over
thirty billion dollars. Their stockholders thought they were booming, but
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in actuality they were totally bankrupt and failing and going
out of business.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
So in almost zigzag lightning.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Time, the whole house of cards came ton zip boom.
The sign on the building was sold, auction was sold,
the goods were sold. All of a sudden, there's this
magnificent building in Houston and other entities around the world,
literally India, China, you name it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It was all gone.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
The thesis was that the stockholders did not know the condition.
This is before all the trials were held and sentences
were pronounced. But at that moment, when the building was
virtually empty and stripped, I got a call from Kinlay.
(17:40):
He asked me to come up there. I don't know,
like ten o'clock at night. I drove up there with
the elevator and as far as I know, there was
not a living soul in that building except security guards
and just the lay. I got on the elevator, I
went up to his office. He was seated at his
(18:02):
desk alone, nobody there.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I walked in. Lights were very dim. It was very I.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Don't know if any light were on except the light
on his desk. I greeted him, sat down. We talked
a little bit, and he said pastor, and I was
not his pastor, but said, I want to show you something.
So he reached in the desk and he pulled out
the mission statement of Rome and he read it to me,
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and I read it, and I can tell you, ladies
and gentlemen, I'm not a scholar on the mission statement
of a corporation, but I challenge anyone to write one
better than the mission statement they had as to how
in Ron was to work, operate, perform for people, for
the public, for their employees. It was a magnificent statement
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of how a corporation or to operate in this world.
I couldn't improve on it. Maybe somebody you could. I couldn't.
It was wonderful. And after he read it and I
read it in the darkened room, he said, this is
the foundation.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Upon which this corporation was built.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Some of the conversation with private we knelt and prayed
in tears I walked out, left him in that semi
darkened room alone, the elephant in the room.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
You already know what it is. The question that was
not asked. What happened to Ron?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Very simple. There was a statement of foundation that was
not lived up to, was not applied, was not reminded
people of was not hired of them.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
They lost their foundation.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
And that can happen in a family, It can happen
in one of the most powerful corporations in the world,
and it can happen anytime anywhere.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It is a foundation.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Ladies and gentlemen, that we have to remember, is built
on the rock of Jesus Christ, if anything is to
stand in the realm of the family.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
It was.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Nine forty one am in Hawaii and a Gold Airliner,
little commuter airline there in the Islands, was flying from
Honolulu to Heilo on the Big Island. Their liner was
full of families, honeymooners, commuters, joyful spirit there in the
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morning going to the Big Island. My goodness, clear skies.
But as they it was about a forty four minute flight.
But as they got toward Helo, a father on the
plane with his wife and his children of vacation. They
noticed the plane continued to fly after you at about
(21:26):
twenty one twenty two thousand feet and went right over
the airport.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And he noticed and he said.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know, that's weird. They're just continuing to go. There's
no weather part. They're just continued to fly.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Out to sea. And he noticed that.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
His last name was Lenning. He began to question some
things and what he did not know. For seventeen minutes,
air traffic controllers had been trying to get communication with
the two pilots the plane, and they'd had no response.
The plane had fuel to fly only ninety miles and.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
They just flew right over the airport.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
They were heading out then the Pacific Ocean, soon being
unable to turn back, and they kept trying to contact them,
in contact them, I don't know if the flight attendants
to mister Lennon began to knock on the door. Finally
they heard the pius because they had both gone to sleep.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Dead asleep. Fortunately they awakened and they turned around and.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
They put all the other airplanes going to Maui into
Big Islands the side because they got back with just
enough fuel to come and land the plane safely. I
want to ask everybody a very personal question. Everybody who's
piloting your family, the culture.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The schools, their friends. Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Something, folks, the father in the pilot's seat, the mother
and the co pilot.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Seat, and they can exchange feet.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I'm going to tell you, if we're going to survive
in this generation, we better wake up.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Jesus gave us clear instructions in the Sermon of the Mound.
He said, if you want a.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Home that is built on a solid foundation, one that
can withstand the storms that will inevitably come, you must
be wise individual who builds his house up on the rock,
which is Jesus Christ. We not only hear his words,
but we put them into practice in our daily lives.
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This is the beginning of building a foundation that will stand.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
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Speaker 2 (24:29):
Of God's Word.
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