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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Committing the Lord's prayer to memory is good. Committing to
do more with it is even better. Are you using
the prayer for its intended purpose?
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Today?
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On turning point, Doctor David Jeremiah closes his series Prayer
The Great Adventure with tools and insights to help you
use the Lord's prayer as a pattern for structuring your
own prayers. To conclude his message Intersections of Prayer, here's David.
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When the Lord was asked by his disciples, Lord teaches
to pray. He didn't give them a prayer to memorize.
He gave them a prayer to organize. And the prayer
organizes the way you talk to the Lord. As we
mentioned yesterday, it bookends with praise and worship, and in
the middle of it are the things that occupy your prayer.
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And we're talking about how this works practically in life.
I want to tell you it's a wonderful to organize
your prayer life, and I hope you will take it
seriously and give it a chance in your life. If
you're struggling with your prayer, if you're wandering around and
sometimes you get lost. I mean, sometimes people tell me
they fall asleep while they're praying, and I get how
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that can happen if you don't have a plan, if
you're not organized, and the Lord helps us with that
as he teaches us this prayer. He tells us the
various things we should pray for, and when we do that,
we stay focused. We'll have more about that in just
a moment as we finish up this message called the
Intersections of Prayer. I do hope that you will get
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this series for your own. You could get the series,
the study guide, and the CDs that go with it
from David Jeremiah dot org. There's also a book called
Prayer the Great Adventure. It's a contemporary discussion of this
whole subject. In fact, this series is really based on
that book. The book Prayer the Great Adventure, the study guide,
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the CD package. These are the things you can use
to share this information with others, to facilitate a discussion
in a small group. It's a wonderful set of tools
if you're going to talk about prayer, and you can
get all the things you need by going to David.
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Jeremiah dot org.
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Well, I'm ready to finish up this discussion on the
Intersections of Prayer.
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As we open our Bibles together today, let's beget.
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You know, every one of my children's been at the
top of the list at one time or another, not
necessarily because of problems in their life, but because.
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Of needs they have.
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How easy it is for us as Christian people. Let
me just say this. I know it's true, we're godly
people and we don't pray for our kids. Why because
we don't have a place for it. We don't have
any way to put it into the process. And if
you don't want to pray this list of priorities, get
your own. But somewhere you are a parent and you
have a responsibility to your children. And then I changed
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this up a little bit because my friend told me
that I could replace pastor with provider and it would
work for everybody. So we decided to do that. And
that means I have a responsibility in my job. Do
you pray about your job? Do you pray about your profession?
You go to God every day and say Lord, here
I am. I'm going back into this den of wolves again,
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this den of thieves, or wherever it is you work,
And I got to try to hold forth for you.
And then the last thing on the list is your
participation and other things. All I'm saying to you is this, somehow,
in the process of your prayer, you have to work
through your priorities. And I think that's what Jesus was
talking about when he said to his disciples, when you pray,
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say this, our Father, who aren't in heaven, hallowed be
thy name, thy kingdom.
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Come. Thy will be done on earth as it is
in heaven.
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Pray your priorities. The only way I know to keep
my priorities straight is to pray them every day, every
single day. I can have a great list, and i'll
make a new one when the year starts. I'll have
some different things I want to do. But if I
don't pray my priorities every day, go away real quick.
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Have you noticed that they don't stay focused.
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I know about all the little daytimers and the organizational
charts and all these things you can do, and how
they tell you to write out your priorities and get
a mission statement all that. Let me just tell you
can do that if you want to, But if you
pray your priorities, you won't have to do any of that,
because every day before God, you will go through this
list and it will help you keep them in sinc
and if you don't do that, you'll have a hard time.
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Your priorities will shift to the pressure of life. Can
I get a witness? You know what I'm talking about.
Your priorities will shift and they'll fit into the little
space that life creates for them, and you will not
be God's person as you want to be. Then Provision
intersection number three. I got some things Lord, I need.
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Give us this day our daily bread, asking it shall
be given to you. Seek and you shall find knocking.
It shall be open to you. This is the time now,
having worshiped God, having focused your priorities, you come and say,
oh Lord, here are the things that I need. I've
been learning a lot about me, but I've learned and
maybe you identified with this. Sometimes when there's a lot
of things on your mind, the first thing when you
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wake up in the morning, those things are all there.
I don't know what there is about getting up in
the morning, especially maybe you thought about them during the
night or before you went to bed. And I've had
to find a way to release those things. And I
release a lot of them right here when I'm praying,
if I'm using my journal, I will just sit down
and say, now, Lord, I got this sense in the
back of my mind that there's some things that are
bothering me, some needs we have as a church. I mean,
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we got a lot of places for needs to grow
in the church and the college and the school district,
a turning point in my own personal life. And so
I just started, Lord, I'm going to release these things
to you right now.
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And I get my little computer, and I.
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Got a little thing that makes bullets, you know when
you make the little bullet, and I just put them
all down as fast as I can.
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I just write them all down.
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And as soon as I write them down and I
see them, it's just like I've given them to God. Now,
I said, Lord, here's my needs. These seem overwhelming to me,
especially when I don't really crystallize and focus on them.
But when I give, they don't seem like that much
for you, the God of Heaven. And I give my
needs to God, and I say, Lord, give us this
day our daily bread. And you remember when we study this,
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we talked about the fact that we have to distinguish
between our needs and our wants. You know, God may
want you to have a Hyundai, and you want a Cadillac,
and you might go to God and say, Lord, give
me a Cadillac, and God's going to say, no, you
need a Hyundai. I didn't promise you what you wanted.
I promise you what you needed, So drive the Hundai.
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Now does the Hundai get you where you're going?
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Yeah? It does.
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Some people think that God's obligated to answer your fantasies. Lord,
give me my fantasies. No, no, no, no your wants
give us our bread. And when you pray this way,
let me tell you something, it will keep you from worrying.
I mean, we all have a tendency to worry something.
But if you really get a hold of this, you
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won't have to worry.
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Why. Who's responsible for your need?
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God is, and when you bring your needs to him,
he will help you. It's incredible to me how many
Christian people I have talked to during this series who've
come and say, well, pastor, look at my needs.
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And I'll ask them, did you ask God for them? Well? No,
he knows, Duney, that's not what the prayer says.
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The prayer says, you're to pray, give us this day
our daily bread.
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Then when you do that, you can give that to God.
That's what happens.
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When I released this list to the Lord in the morning,
I give it up to him. I don't worry about
it anymore. Do I get all those things answered in
this day? No, But it's interesting when you go back
and look how God picks those off in his own
time done. He just takets care of things in his
own time. And then you go back and look at
the list you wrote six months ago, and you kind
of smile and you say.
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Lord, look what you've done. It's wonderful.
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We do not have a great enough sense, as God's
people of the way God provides for us. And you
know what else we don't do if I can just
get off on a side for a moment when He
does provide, We're not always really careful to thank him,
are we. I used to say this in my prayers.
I kind of grew up with this little phrase. I
guess maybe I heard it in church somewhere. That's how
we learned to say all these Christianese things we learn.
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You know, I would end my prince, and we will
be careful to give.
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You the praise.
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And I discovered something I wasn't very careful I wasn't
doing that. I try not to say that because I
find that in my own human realm I'm not always careful.
God does a lot of things for me I asked
him to do, and I forget to thank him. I'm
getting better at it now that I'm keeping track of
it and writing. But oh, what a wonderful thing it
is to know that God is our provider. Harry Ironside,
who was at one time church in Chicago, the pastor
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of the Moody Church, tells a story about one day
going into a cafeteria to eat, and when he took
his train and he looked around for a place to sit,
there went any empty chairs except one chair at a table,
and there was someone sitting across from me.
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And asked the guy, can I sit down here?
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And he said grunted something, and so Ironside took that
as a yes, and he sat down. He took his
food off his tray and bowed his head and prayed,
give thanks to the Lord. When he looked up, he
saw the guy was looking at him with this weird expression,
and the man said to him, what's the matter. Is
there's something wrong with your food? Ironside said, no, I
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don't think so, it seems all right to me. And
the man said, well, have you got a headache or something?
Iron said said, no, I don't have a headache. Why
do you ask he said, Well, he said, I noticed
you bowing down, putting your hand up to your head
and closing your eyes.
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I thought maybe there was something wrong with your head.
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Doctor Ironside said, I was just saying thanks to God
for my food. Oh.
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The man said, so you believe in that stuff. You're
one of those.
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And doctor Ironside said, don't you ever give thanks? And
the stranger responded, I don't believe in giving thanks for anything.
I just start right in. Doctor Ironside responded, oh, you're
just like my dog. He never gives thanks either. He
just starts right in. You know that's not a good
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way to be, is it. Why can't we just bow
our heads and say thanks? But he's the provider in me,
he's the provider. I can't spend time on the rest
of these much. But let me just remind you again
that when you're finished asking God for provision, then you
deal with personal relationships.
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That's the next thing.
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And forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.
And we learned about that, didn't we That if you
pray this prayer every day, you'll always get along with everybody.
You'll never have any long term relational problems because you
won't be able to deal with them. Because every day,
when you pray this prayer, Lord forgive us our debts.
As we forgive our debtors, you're saying, Lord, if I
don't deal with my problems, you're not going to deal
with my problems.
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So who is it?
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And you know what, it's interesting to me that when
you pray this, if there's something a little bit wrong
with somebody in your life, in your family, or in
your relationships, it comes right to the top.
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Just like that. Can't get over how God does that.
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You may not even be aware that you've offended somebody
or someone else's And when you pray this prayer, God
gives you this ultra sensitivity of a relationship that's out
of sync, and you have to go get it right.
And you remember we talked about how we're to forgive
because we have been forgiven. We're to forgive just as
we are forgiven. We're to forgive before we need to forgive,
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and we're to forgive always seventy times seven, and we're
always to forgive, taking the initiative ourselves, and that's the
way it works. One of the verse says this, if
you come to the altar and you know that your
brother has aught against you, now watch this. Leave your
gift at the altar, go get it right with your brother,
and then come back and worship. The other verse says,
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if you come to the altar and you know that
you have aught against your brother, leave your gift. Go
get your brother, get it right, and then come back.
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Now watch this.
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If your brother has aught against you, you go. If
you have aught against your brother, you go.
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Whose turn is it? It's always your.
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And some of you married couples, you're leaning off this
side of the bed. He's leaning off this side of
the bed. You just had a big fight for you
went to bed, and you're laying over here saying, I
ain't talking to her the first time. The last time
this happened, I initiated it, the forgiveness thing, and I'm
not doing it again.
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It's her turn.
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I hope you'll fall out of bed. Now watch this, mister.
You just go ahead and do it, because you're the
godly one, and the Godly One always initiates.
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Do you see what I'm saying?
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And you can just feel so good about the fact
you have initiated the forgive because what does it say?
It's always your turn and you can do it too, ma'am.
Whoever senses that the relationship is broken, what do they do?
They take the step to get it right. Who cares
later on who initiated it? As long as it comes
back together and the forgiveness thing is rought, isn't that true?
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I guess when we get to eternity, when we're be
able to ask how many relationships have been the sty
because somebody was waiting because they didn't think it was
their turn. God has once and for all settled that
issue when it comes to forgiveness. So when you come
to the Lord in prayer and you say, Lord, forgive
us our debts as we forgive our debtors, and he
brings to your mind somebody you need to take care of.
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Don't you sit around and argue with yourself that they
may have done something to you that was worse than
what you think you may have done. You just go
get that person and get it right. That's what this
prayer will do for you personal relationships and then protection.
How we need to pray this one. Lord, lead us
not into temptation, but deliver.
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Us from evil.
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Oh God, today I pray that you will not put
me in the path of temptation and sin. Lord, don't
lead me in a direction where there's a possibility of
my failure, because I know whenever there's temptation, there's always
two things that can happen. You can succeed and you
can fail. In Lord, I don't even want to take
the chance. So keep me out of the way of temptation.
And Lord, the evil ones ever around, seeking whom he
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may devour, deliver me from the evil one.
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I need your help today. Lord, protect me.
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Put a hedge around me, put a hedge around my children.
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Keep me.
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Lord, I revel in this truth that the Lord knows
how to deliver the godly out of trial. So I
pray this prayer to you, God, protect me today, Protect
my loved ones. There's a story out of the life
of Hudson Taylor, the great missionary to China, that illustrates
how important to pray this prayer. He was just a
young man, just getting started out as a missionary, certainly
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didn't know a lot of the things he knew later on.
But in his early days, he was on his way
from Swatou to the great city of Shanghai. He was
going to Shanghai because all of his medical instruments and
medicines were there and he needed them to go back
to the city of Swataoo so he could carry out
his medical practice there.
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Well.
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He got to Shanghai and discovered, to his tremendous disappointment,
that the building in which all of his medical supply
had been housed had burnt to the ground and everything
that he owned had been destroyed. He didn't know what
to do, so he tried to plan what to do,
and he decided that the best thing he could do
was to go down the canals to the city of Ningpo,
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where he could buy some supplies from another missionary. So
he took this arduous journey down the canal, and it
was terribly hot and it was miserable.
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He worked his way.
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Down the canal, and when he got to the end
of the canals, he had to engage some coolies to
help carry his baggage up over the mountains, and he
hired this group of coolies and started out ahead, and
at a given point he had to wait through a long,
hot afternoon for them to catch up. And it suddenly
dawned on him that all of his coolies were opium
smokers and they had no energy to get anything over
the mountains, so he dismissed them all. There was one
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good one left. He hired him as his leader and
told him to go out and get some other coolies.
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He went and did it.
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They took his baggage and went on ahead of Hudson Taylor,
and he never saw him again. They took his baggage
and went to the mountains and kept it for themselves.
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He was having a bad day. He was completely discouraged
and tired. He didn't know what to do.
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He went to the city and tried to get a
place to sleep. They finally directed him to this one inn.
He got there, it was rat infested, bed bug infested,
and he had a terrible night didn't sleep at all.
The next morning, he decided to press onto the coast,
and after a long and hot and terribly discouraging march,
he entered a city to try to find a place
to sleep. He was turned out of every single inn
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in the city, and the police began to shadow him.
He didn't know what to do. They thought he was
a crook or something. Finally, some young guy came up
to him and said, I'll show you around and help you.
And he traped around the city with us, going nowhere.
Finally sat down on the steps of a temple and
there were three thieves around him. He couldn't sleep because
he knew as soon as he shut his eyes those
guys would rob him blind and he wouldn't have one
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thing left, even on his person. The next morning, the
young man who showed him around the night before came
back and tried to get an exorbitant fee from him
for being his guide. Now, Hudson Taylor was a really
spiritual man, but at this moment in time he lost it,
and he grabbed hold of that young man and he
shook him, said a few choice things to him, and
told him to shut up and get out of his life.
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And then he was broken and weary and dispirited. He
started the long journey back to Shanghai. In his journal,
he says that on the way back he began to
feel such a sense of defeat in his own life.
Not only had all these things befallen him, but he
had then lost his own testimony and the way he
dealt with him, and he began to realize that at
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the core of this whole issue was that when these
problems started, he had done everything except the most important thing.
He had never gone to God and said, help me,
show me what to do. He had let his own
human ingenuity take over, and he started figuring out the plan. Well,
I don't know what to do here, so I'll do
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this and then I'll do this. And everything he had
tried had failed. He never had given it to God.
And in the process, let me tell you what happens
when you do that.
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It's a given.
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When you refuse to give it up to God, there
are three things that will always happen to you. Frustration, fatigue,
and failure. They will always happen. I am living testimony
to that. When you try to do it your way
and you don't give it up to God, you can
count on it. You will have frustration, fatigue, and failure.
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And Hudson Taylor had all of that. Finally he got
to Shanghai, and when he got there there was a
letter waiting for him, and the letter had a check
in it for the exact amount to cover all of
his losses. And he learned soon that if he had
gone on to Swateau, he would have arrived just in
time to be put in prison and perhaps even executed,
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and all of the fretful worry and the gnawing fear
and the despair and the perplexity that he'd experienced was
totally unnecessary. The events might have been the same regardless
of whether he prayed or not, but the emotions he
experienced would have been totally different if he had just prayed, Lord,
lead me not into temptation, deliver me from evil.
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I give this up to you.
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Then all along the way he could have understood that
God was at work. Ultimately, God had a plan. It
had some detours in it that he had not understood
because he had tried to do this all himself.
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I can testify to.
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You that when you bring your life to God and
you say to him I want you to take this Lord,
you lead me but not into temptation. You deliver me
from the evil one. And I trust you to do that.
You can live every day and even when things happen
that you don't understand, you can say all things work
together for good to those that love God, who are
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the called according to His purpose. God doesn't make any mistakes,
but it's in the process of giving that up to
Him at the beginning of the day. And then, of
course we come at last the end of this prayer
and praise again, for yours is the kingdom and the
Power and the glory forever.
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Amen.
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Prayers now come full circle. We find ourselves again at praise.
Worship seals all prayers at the front and at the back.
And Jesus has taught us that we're to pray and
always to pray with praise beginning and praise ending. Lord,
I praise you for your sovereignty, For yours is the kingdom.
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I praise you for your authority, for yours is the power.
I praise you for your majesty, for yours is the glory.
I praise you for your eternality. For you are forever.
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Lord, I praise you. You can pray this prayer. You
can take this.
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Find a little notebook, put a section for each of
the six intersections. Start keeping track of the things that
you think fall under those categories, and you know what
it's going to be right for you, Because what did
I say at the beginning, how do you learn to pray?
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You learn to pray by prayer?
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You say, well, I'm going to study this for a
little bit past her, and I'm going to work on
this and meditate. I'll try to get the tape and
I'll listen to it again, and then maybe as we
get toward the first of the year, I could start
on the first of January. No, start today, If not today, tomorrow,
find a place alone and say God, I don't know
that I know very much about praying, but I'm going
to start where you told me to start, and I'm
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going to follow along the prayer journey, and I'm going
to stop at every intersection along the way to remember
the things you told us to pray about.
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I promise you.
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That as you pray, you will learn how to pray better,
and God will help you to learn how to pray
with greater meaning.
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And then keep track of what he does.
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Write down the things He does for you, and they
will encourage you to keep praying. For the world is
waiting for God's people to get serious about prayer, so
that God can get serious about the world and reaching
men and women to Jesus Christ is a matter of prayer.
He's given his life, he's given his son, He's given
the gift that we might have everlasting life. But he
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tells us in his word that he limits himself to
some degree because of the prayers of his people. If
we do not pray, there will be those who will
not hear pray. Therefore, the Lord of the harvest that
he may send laborers out into the field, for the
fields are white. The Bible teaches us, if it teaches
us anything, that we will never know the fullness of
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the blessing of God in our lives until we deal
with the issue of prayer. And I want to encourage
you to do This is not about guilt. I haven't
talked to you about how bad you are because you
don't pray. I don't know how much you pray or
don't pray. I don't want to make you feel guilty.
Guilt doesn't motivate anyone.
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I want to tell you that you can do it.
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I want to say to you with all my heart,
this is a plan that will work. And if you
want to work another plan, get another plan. But get
a plan for prayer and get after it. And if
you need a little priming of the pump. Go find
a good book on prayer. The books by Becky Terrabasi
are great books on prayer. Read a chapter a day,
take a few notes from the book, put it in
your per journal, and then pray.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Man, we've got to pray.
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Women, We've got to pray if we're going to be
God's people today. That's the passion in my heart to
take this that we have learned. Put it in a package.
A prayer kid, the prayer kid of Jesus. Will you
do it sometime down the road, after you've been practicing
for a while and God has done something real good
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for you, would you come and tell me, tell me.
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What God's done in your life?
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You say, Pastor Jeremiah, I'm sixty years old, man, I'm
too old.
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To do this. And if you're eighty, you're not too
old to do this. Or I'm just getting started him,
I'm not even a teenager yet.
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Start wherever you are. Isn't that the beauty of the
word of God. You start right now wherever you are.
Take what God has said, and start now and be
obedient to him.
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Amen.
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Man, you can always start. God will receive your new determination,
especially when it comes to prayer. Tomorrow, we're going to
listen again to the interview that we had with Sheila
Walsh on the subject of prayer, and then on Friday,
I'm going to give a special message on the warfare
of prayer from a series of teaching from the Book
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This is David Michael Jeremiah. Join us tomorrow as doctor
David Jeremiah and Sheila Walsh discuss Prayer the Great Adventure
on Turning Point
Committing the Lord's prayer to memory is good. Committing to
do more with it is even better. Are you using
the prayer for its intended purpose?
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Today?
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On turning point, Doctor David Jeremiah closes his series Prayer
The Great Adventure with tools and insights to help you
use the Lord's prayer as a pattern for structuring your
own prayers. To conclude his message Intersections of Prayer, here's David.
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When the Lord was asked by his disciples, Lord teaches
to pray. He didn't give them a prayer to memorize.
He gave them a prayer to organize. And the prayer
organizes the way you talk to the Lord. As we
mentioned yesterday, it bookends with praise and worship, and in
the middle of it are the things that occupy your prayer.
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And we're talking about how this works practically in life.
I want to tell you it's a wonderful to organize
your prayer life, and I hope you will take it
seriously and give it a chance in your life. If
you're struggling with your prayer, if you're wandering around and
sometimes you get lost. I mean, sometimes people tell me
they fall asleep while they're praying, and I get how
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that can happen if you don't have a plan, if
you're not organized, and the Lord helps us with that
as he teaches us this prayer. He tells us the
various things we should pray for, and when we do that,
we stay focused. We'll have more about that in just
a moment as we finish up this message called the
Intersections of Prayer. I do hope that you will get
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this series for your own. You could get the series,
the study guide, and the CDs that go with it
from David Jeremiah dot org. There's also a book called
Prayer the Great Adventure. It's a contemporary discussion of this
whole subject. In fact, this series is really based on
that book. The book Prayer the Great Adventure, the study guide,
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the CD package. These are the things you can use
to share this information with others, to facilitate a discussion
in a small group. It's a wonderful set of tools
if you're going to talk about prayer, and you can
get all the things you need by going to David.
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Jeremiah dot org.
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Well, I'm ready to finish up this discussion on the
Intersections of Prayer.
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As we open our Bibles together today, let's beget.
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You know, every one of my children's been at the
top of the list at one time or another, not
necessarily because of problems in their life, but because.
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Of needs they have.
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How easy it is for us as Christian people. Let
me just say this. I know it's true, we're godly
people and we don't pray for our kids. Why because
we don't have a place for it. We don't have
any way to put it into the process. And if
you don't want to pray this list of priorities, get
your own. But somewhere you are a parent and you
have a responsibility to your children. And then I changed
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this up a little bit because my friend told me
that I could replace pastor with provider and it would
work for everybody. So we decided to do that. And
that means I have a responsibility in my job. Do
you pray about your job? Do you pray about your profession?
You go to God every day and say Lord, here
I am. I'm going back into this den of wolves again,
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this den of thieves, or wherever it is you work,
And I got to try to hold forth for you.
And then the last thing on the list is your
participation and other things. All I'm saying to you is this, somehow,
in the process of your prayer, you have to work
through your priorities. And I think that's what Jesus was
talking about when he said to his disciples, when you pray,
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say this, our Father, who aren't in heaven, hallowed be
thy name, thy kingdom.
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Come. Thy will be done on earth as it is
in heaven.
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Pray your priorities. The only way I know to keep
my priorities straight is to pray them every day, every
single day. I can have a great list, and i'll
make a new one when the year starts. I'll have
some different things I want to do. But if I
don't pray my priorities every day, go away real quick.
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Have you noticed that they don't stay focused.
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I know about all the little daytimers and the organizational
charts and all these things you can do, and how
they tell you to write out your priorities and get
a mission statement all that. Let me just tell you
can do that if you want to, But if you
pray your priorities, you won't have to do any of that,
because every day before God, you will go through this
list and it will help you keep them in sinc
and if you don't do that, you'll have a hard time.
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Your priorities will shift to the pressure of life. Can
I get a witness? You know what I'm talking about.
Your priorities will shift and they'll fit into the little
space that life creates for them, and you will not
be God's person as you want to be. Then Provision
intersection number three. I got some things Lord, I need.
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Give us this day our daily bread, asking it shall
be given to you. Seek and you shall find knocking.
It shall be open to you. This is the time now,
having worshiped God, having focused your priorities, you come and say,
oh Lord, here are the things that I need. I've
been learning a lot about me, but I've learned and
maybe you identified with this. Sometimes when there's a lot
of things on your mind, the first thing when you
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wake up in the morning, those things are all there.
I don't know what there is about getting up in
the morning, especially maybe you thought about them during the
night or before you went to bed. And I've had
to find a way to release those things. And I
release a lot of them right here when I'm praying,
if I'm using my journal, I will just sit down
and say, now, Lord, I got this sense in the
back of my mind that there's some things that are
bothering me, some needs we have as a church. I mean,
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we got a lot of places for needs to grow
in the church and the college and the school district,
a turning point in my own personal life. And so
I just started, Lord, I'm going to release these things
to you right now.
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And I get my little computer, and I.
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Got a little thing that makes bullets, you know when
you make the little bullet, and I just put them
all down as fast as I can.
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I just write them all down.
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And as soon as I write them down and I
see them, it's just like I've given them to God. Now,
I said, Lord, here's my needs. These seem overwhelming to me,
especially when I don't really crystallize and focus on them.
But when I give, they don't seem like that much
for you, the God of Heaven. And I give my
needs to God, and I say, Lord, give us this
day our daily bread. And you remember when we study this,
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we talked about the fact that we have to distinguish
between our needs and our wants. You know, God may
want you to have a Hyundai, and you want a Cadillac,
and you might go to God and say, Lord, give
me a Cadillac, and God's going to say, no, you
need a Hyundai. I didn't promise you what you wanted.
I promise you what you needed, So drive the Hundai.
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Now does the Hundai get you where you're going?
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Yeah? It does.
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Some people think that God's obligated to answer your fantasies. Lord,
give me my fantasies. No, no, no, no your wants
give us our bread. And when you pray this way,
let me tell you something, it will keep you from worrying.
I mean, we all have a tendency to worry something.
But if you really get a hold of this, you
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won't have to worry.
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Why. Who's responsible for your need?
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God is, and when you bring your needs to him,
he will help you. It's incredible to me how many
Christian people I have talked to during this series who've
come and say, well, pastor, look at my needs.
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And I'll ask them, did you ask God for them? Well? No,
he knows, Duney, that's not what the prayer says.
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The prayer says, you're to pray, give us this day
our daily bread.
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Then when you do that, you can give that to God.
That's what happens.
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When I released this list to the Lord in the morning,
I give it up to him. I don't worry about
it anymore. Do I get all those things answered in
this day? No, But it's interesting when you go back
and look how God picks those off in his own
time done. He just takets care of things in his
own time. And then you go back and look at
the list you wrote six months ago, and you kind
of smile and you say.
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Lord, look what you've done. It's wonderful.
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We do not have a great enough sense, as God's
people of the way God provides for us. And you
know what else we don't do if I can just
get off on a side for a moment when He
does provide, We're not always really careful to thank him,
are we. I used to say this in my prayers.
I kind of grew up with this little phrase. I
guess maybe I heard it in church somewhere. That's how
we learned to say all these Christianese things we learn.
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You know, I would end my prince, and we will
be careful to give.
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You the praise.
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And I discovered something I wasn't very careful I wasn't
doing that. I try not to say that because I
find that in my own human realm I'm not always careful.
God does a lot of things for me I asked
him to do, and I forget to thank him. I'm
getting better at it now that I'm keeping track of
it and writing. But oh, what a wonderful thing it
is to know that God is our provider. Harry Ironside,
who was at one time church in Chicago, the pastor
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of the Moody Church, tells a story about one day
going into a cafeteria to eat, and when he took
his train and he looked around for a place to sit,
there went any empty chairs except one chair at a table,
and there was someone sitting across from me.
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And asked the guy, can I sit down here?
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And he said grunted something, and so Ironside took that
as a yes, and he sat down. He took his
food off his tray and bowed his head and prayed,
give thanks to the Lord. When he looked up, he
saw the guy was looking at him with this weird expression,
and the man said to him, what's the matter. Is
there's something wrong with your food? Ironside said, no, I
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don't think so, it seems all right to me. And
the man said, well, have you got a headache or something?
Iron said said, no, I don't have a headache. Why
do you ask he said, Well, he said, I noticed
you bowing down, putting your hand up to your head
and closing your eyes.
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I thought maybe there was something wrong with your head.
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Doctor Ironside said, I was just saying thanks to God
for my food. Oh.
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The man said, so you believe in that stuff. You're
one of those.
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And doctor Ironside said, don't you ever give thanks? And
the stranger responded, I don't believe in giving thanks for anything.
I just start right in. Doctor Ironside responded, oh, you're
just like my dog. He never gives thanks either. He
just starts right in. You know that's not a good
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way to be, is it. Why can't we just bow
our heads and say thanks? But he's the provider in me,
he's the provider. I can't spend time on the rest
of these much. But let me just remind you again
that when you're finished asking God for provision, then you
deal with personal relationships.
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That's the next thing.
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And forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.
And we learned about that, didn't we That if you
pray this prayer every day, you'll always get along with everybody.
You'll never have any long term relational problems because you
won't be able to deal with them. Because every day,
when you pray this prayer, Lord forgive us our debts.
As we forgive our debtors, you're saying, Lord, if I
don't deal with my problems, you're not going to deal
with my problems.
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So who is it?
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And you know what, it's interesting to me that when
you pray this, if there's something a little bit wrong
with somebody in your life, in your family, or in
your relationships, it comes right to the top.
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Just like that. Can't get over how God does that.
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You may not even be aware that you've offended somebody
or someone else's And when you pray this prayer, God
gives you this ultra sensitivity of a relationship that's out
of sync, and you have to go get it right.
And you remember we talked about how we're to forgive
because we have been forgiven. We're to forgive just as
we are forgiven. We're to forgive before we need to forgive,
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and we're to forgive always seventy times seven, and we're
always to forgive, taking the initiative ourselves, and that's the
way it works. One of the verse says this, if
you come to the altar and you know that your
brother has aught against you, now watch this. Leave your
gift at the altar, go get it right with your brother,
and then come back and worship. The other verse says,
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if you come to the altar and you know that
you have aught against your brother, leave your gift. Go
get your brother, get it right, and then come back.
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Now watch this.
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If your brother has aught against you, you go. If
you have aught against your brother, you go.
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Whose turn is it? It's always your.
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And some of you married couples, you're leaning off this
side of the bed. He's leaning off this side of
the bed. You just had a big fight for you
went to bed, and you're laying over here saying, I
ain't talking to her the first time. The last time
this happened, I initiated it, the forgiveness thing, and I'm
not doing it again.
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It's her turn.
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I hope you'll fall out of bed. Now watch this, mister.
You just go ahead and do it, because you're the
godly one, and the Godly One always initiates.
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Do you see what I'm saying?
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And you can just feel so good about the fact
you have initiated the forgive because what does it say?
It's always your turn and you can do it too, ma'am.
Whoever senses that the relationship is broken, what do they do?
They take the step to get it right. Who cares
later on who initiated it? As long as it comes
back together and the forgiveness thing is rought, isn't that true?
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I guess when we get to eternity, when we're be
able to ask how many relationships have been the sty
because somebody was waiting because they didn't think it was
their turn. God has once and for all settled that
issue when it comes to forgiveness. So when you come
to the Lord in prayer and you say, Lord, forgive
us our debts as we forgive our debtors, and he
brings to your mind somebody you need to take care of.
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Don't you sit around and argue with yourself that they
may have done something to you that was worse than
what you think you may have done. You just go
get that person and get it right. That's what this
prayer will do for you personal relationships and then protection.
How we need to pray this one. Lord, lead us
not into temptation, but deliver.
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Us from evil.
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Oh God, today I pray that you will not put
me in the path of temptation and sin. Lord, don't
lead me in a direction where there's a possibility of
my failure, because I know whenever there's temptation, there's always
two things that can happen. You can succeed and you
can fail. In Lord, I don't even want to take
the chance. So keep me out of the way of temptation.
And Lord, the evil ones ever around, seeking whom he
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may devour, deliver me from the evil one.
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I need your help today. Lord, protect me.
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Put a hedge around me, put a hedge around my children.
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Keep me.
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Lord, I revel in this truth that the Lord knows
how to deliver the godly out of trial. So I
pray this prayer to you, God, protect me today, Protect
my loved ones. There's a story out of the life
of Hudson Taylor, the great missionary to China, that illustrates
how important to pray this prayer. He was just a
young man, just getting started out as a missionary, certainly
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didn't know a lot of the things he knew later on.
But in his early days, he was on his way
from Swatou to the great city of Shanghai. He was
going to Shanghai because all of his medical instruments and
medicines were there and he needed them to go back
to the city of Swataoo so he could carry out
his medical practice there.
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Well.
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He got to Shanghai and discovered, to his tremendous disappointment,
that the building in which all of his medical supply
had been housed had burnt to the ground and everything
that he owned had been destroyed. He didn't know what
to do, so he tried to plan what to do,
and he decided that the best thing he could do
was to go down the canals to the city of Ningpo,
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where he could buy some supplies from another missionary. So
he took this arduous journey down the canal, and it
was terribly hot and it was miserable.
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He worked his way.
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Down the canal, and when he got to the end
of the canals, he had to engage some coolies to
help carry his baggage up over the mountains, and he
hired this group of coolies and started out ahead, and
at a given point he had to wait through a long,
hot afternoon for them to catch up. And it suddenly
dawned on him that all of his coolies were opium
smokers and they had no energy to get anything over
the mountains, so he dismissed them all. There was one
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good one left. He hired him as his leader and
told him to go out and get some other coolies.
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He went and did it.
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They took his baggage and went on ahead of Hudson Taylor,
and he never saw him again. They took his baggage
and went to the mountains and kept it for themselves.
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He was having a bad day. He was completely discouraged
and tired. He didn't know what to do.
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He went to the city and tried to get a
place to sleep. They finally directed him to this one inn.
He got there, it was rat infested, bed bug infested,
and he had a terrible night didn't sleep at all.
The next morning, he decided to press onto the coast,
and after a long and hot and terribly discouraging march,
he entered a city to try to find a place
to sleep. He was turned out of every single inn
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in the city, and the police began to shadow him.
He didn't know what to do. They thought he was
a crook or something. Finally, some young guy came up
to him and said, I'll show you around and help you.
And he traped around the city with us, going nowhere.
Finally sat down on the steps of a temple and
there were three thieves around him. He couldn't sleep because
he knew as soon as he shut his eyes those
guys would rob him blind and he wouldn't have one
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thing left, even on his person. The next morning, the
young man who showed him around the night before came
back and tried to get an exorbitant fee from him
for being his guide. Now, Hudson Taylor was a really
spiritual man, but at this moment in time he lost it,
and he grabbed hold of that young man and he
shook him, said a few choice things to him, and
told him to shut up and get out of his life.
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And then he was broken and weary and dispirited. He
started the long journey back to Shanghai. In his journal,
he says that on the way back he began to
feel such a sense of defeat in his own life.
Not only had all these things befallen him, but he
had then lost his own testimony and the way he
dealt with him, and he began to realize that at
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the core of this whole issue was that when these
problems started, he had done everything except the most important thing.
He had never gone to God and said, help me,
show me what to do. He had let his own
human ingenuity take over, and he started figuring out the plan. Well,
I don't know what to do here, so I'll do
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this and then I'll do this. And everything he had
tried had failed. He never had given it to God.
And in the process, let me tell you what happens
when you do that.
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It's a given.
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When you refuse to give it up to God, there
are three things that will always happen to you. Frustration, fatigue,
and failure. They will always happen. I am living testimony
to that. When you try to do it your way
and you don't give it up to God, you can
count on it. You will have frustration, fatigue, and failure.
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And Hudson Taylor had all of that. Finally he got
to Shanghai, and when he got there there was a
letter waiting for him, and the letter had a check
in it for the exact amount to cover all of
his losses. And he learned soon that if he had
gone on to Swateau, he would have arrived just in
time to be put in prison and perhaps even executed,
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and all of the fretful worry and the gnawing fear
and the despair and the perplexity that he'd experienced was
totally unnecessary. The events might have been the same regardless
of whether he prayed or not, but the emotions he
experienced would have been totally different if he had just prayed, Lord,
lead me not into temptation, deliver me from evil.
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I give this up to you.
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Then all along the way he could have understood that
God was at work. Ultimately, God had a plan. It
had some detours in it that he had not understood
because he had tried to do this all himself.
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I can testify to.
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You that when you bring your life to God and
you say to him I want you to take this Lord,
you lead me but not into temptation. You deliver me
from the evil one. And I trust you to do that.
You can live every day and even when things happen
that you don't understand, you can say all things work
together for good to those that love God, who are
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the called according to His purpose. God doesn't make any mistakes,
but it's in the process of giving that up to
Him at the beginning of the day. And then, of
course we come at last the end of this prayer
and praise again, for yours is the kingdom and the
Power and the glory forever.
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Amen.
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Prayers now come full circle. We find ourselves again at praise.
Worship seals all prayers at the front and at the back.
And Jesus has taught us that we're to pray and
always to pray with praise beginning and praise ending. Lord,
I praise you for your sovereignty, For yours is the kingdom.
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I praise you for your authority, for yours is the power.
I praise you for your majesty, for yours is the glory.
I praise you for your eternality. For you are forever.
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Lord, I praise you. You can pray this prayer. You
can take this.
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Find a little notebook, put a section for each of
the six intersections. Start keeping track of the things that
you think fall under those categories, and you know what
it's going to be right for you, Because what did
I say at the beginning, how do you learn to pray?
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You learn to pray by prayer?
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You say, well, I'm going to study this for a
little bit past her, and I'm going to work on
this and meditate. I'll try to get the tape and
I'll listen to it again, and then maybe as we
get toward the first of the year, I could start
on the first of January. No, start today, If not today, tomorrow,
find a place alone and say God, I don't know
that I know very much about praying, but I'm going
to start where you told me to start, and I'm
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going to follow along the prayer journey, and I'm going
to stop at every intersection along the way to remember
the things you told us to pray about.
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I promise you.
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That as you pray, you will learn how to pray better,
and God will help you to learn how to pray
with greater meaning.
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And then keep track of what he does.
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Write down the things He does for you, and they
will encourage you to keep praying. For the world is
waiting for God's people to get serious about prayer, so
that God can get serious about the world and reaching
men and women to Jesus Christ is a matter of prayer.
He's given his life, he's given his son, He's given
the gift that we might have everlasting life. But he
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tells us in his word that he limits himself to
some degree because of the prayers of his people. If
we do not pray, there will be those who will
not hear pray. Therefore, the Lord of the harvest that
he may send laborers out into the field, for the
fields are white. The Bible teaches us, if it teaches
us anything, that we will never know the fullness of
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the blessing of God in our lives until we deal
with the issue of prayer. And I want to encourage
you to do This is not about guilt. I haven't
talked to you about how bad you are because you
don't pray. I don't know how much you pray or
don't pray. I don't want to make you feel guilty.
Guilt doesn't motivate anyone.
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I want to tell you that you can do it.
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I want to say to you with all my heart,
this is a plan that will work. And if you
want to work another plan, get another plan. But get
a plan for prayer and get after it. And if
you need a little priming of the pump. Go find
a good book on prayer. The books by Becky Terrabasi
are great books on prayer. Read a chapter a day,
take a few notes from the book, put it in
your per journal, and then pray.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Man, we've got to pray.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Women, We've got to pray if we're going to be
God's people today. That's the passion in my heart to
take this that we have learned. Put it in a package.
A prayer kid, the prayer kid of Jesus. Will you
do it sometime down the road, after you've been practicing
for a while and God has done something real good
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for you, would you come and tell me, tell me.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
What God's done in your life?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
You say, Pastor Jeremiah, I'm sixty years old, man, I'm
too old.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
To do this. And if you're eighty, you're not too
old to do this. Or I'm just getting started him,
I'm not even a teenager yet.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Start wherever you are. Isn't that the beauty of the
word of God. You start right now wherever you are.
Take what God has said, and start now and be
obedient to him.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Man, you can always start. God will receive your new determination,
especially when it comes to prayer. Tomorrow, we're going to
listen again to the interview that we had with Sheila
Walsh on the subject of prayer, and then on Friday,
I'm going to give a special message on the warfare
of prayer from a series of teaching from the Book
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of Ephesians. And that's how we'll finish the week together.
In the meantime, if you haven't already asked for your
copy of the book Everything to God in Prayer, be
sure to request this book when you send your gift
to Turning Point during this month, because it's our way
of saying thank you for your faithfulness to invest in
Turning Point and what we do together, especially as we
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teach on subjects like this which are so practical and
so helpful to us in our walk with the Lord.
Thank you so much for your investment, and I hope
this book will say that in a big, happy way.
We'll see you next time right here on Turning Point.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
The message you've just heard came to you from Shadow
Mountain Community Church Senior pastor doctor David Jeremiah. Has the
Lord been moving in your life through this ministry? Tell
us how at Turning Point pobox thirty eight thirty eight,
San Diego, California, nine two one sixty three. Visit our
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This is David Michael Jeremiah. Join us tomorrow as doctor
David Jeremiah and Sheila Walsh discuss Prayer the Great Adventure
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