October 26, 2021 • 30 mins
How is it competing against your wife?! Awkward or Sexyyyyyy???
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey, guys, welcome back to pretty Mess Up Dancing with Myself.
This is Cheryl Burke, your host, and we are here
to talk about all things Dancing with the Stars Season thirty.
You guys, this is week six in the competition. Me
and my partner Cody Rigsby still kicking literally and we
actually for the first time got positive remarks from the
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judges and we got all nines, four nines. Wow. I
knew it though. I knew that this dance for Cody,
the chat up, was going to be his best dance.
Yet we actually, I have to say, we approached things
differently this week. You know, we really took what the
judges had to say when it comes to their constructive
criticism on like having to partner more and really being
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able to work on the details. Now that we're not traveling,
we've got you know, as much rehearsal time as everybody else.
COVID is no longer an issue, and so we really
worked hard to the point where, you know, we had
time to work on the details. And so I'm just
at the end of the day, really proud of Cody.
He deserves finally some positive feedback. You know, this has
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not been an easy journey for him. It's been very emotional,
but also I hope that it's been not just discouraging
but also encouraging. Especially now this is the time that
you know, you really want to make a statement out
there in the ballroom because we're heading to the last
half of the competition, and this is where things get
really tricky because everybody obviously there's been a lot of
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thirties being given out this this night and last week
as well. You've got a Mom and Danielle. Holy crap,
that was some amazing choreography. Honestly, I went up to
Danielle m who, by the way, her grandma just passed,
so on top of her being very emotional, this is
all new to her. You know, she's not um a vet,
I guess you can say when it comes to dancing
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with the stars, but she is a vet when it
comes to ballroom dancing in general. She is an amazing dancer.
Her and her husband Pasha there. I mean, if you
want to just talk about competition, they're the ones to
beat as far as in the competitive ballroom dancing world.
But what she has done with Nellie last season and
now with a mon has been just mind blowing and
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so refreshing to watch that. Like, I honestly, I have
to give props to Danielle. She has been so clever
with her choreography and really knows how to make her
partner shine. And so, you know what, it is not
easy coming into a show like Dancing with the Stars
that's been a machine for thirty seasons and making a
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statement like that. So props to Danielle, Props to the
other perfect score Joejoe and Jenna, and I believe there
was another perfect score um as well. And there's lots
of tens just you know, being given out to people
that deserve them. And and I feel like with Cody
and I like we're right where we want to be.
We're slowly improving, and at the end of the day,
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it's about the journey, you know, It's truly about the
journey you have as a partnership together on Dancing with
the Stars more than it is an individual dance competition. Um.
But now things get challenging. We don't have just one dance.
We've got two dances. Next week it's Queen Night and
we've got our solo dance and then a relay dance,
which is basically you really get to see what the
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competition is because you've got three couples basically doing the
same song, dancing the same style of dance, different choreography,
and at different times. But you can really compare, right,
So we've got that as well. So this week is
going to be a long week. Like I've said here before,
you can only celebrate so long before you get so
overwhelmed with what needs to be done as far as
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choreography and what the week entails. So I am just
proud of Cody Is for saving us another week. And yeah,
congratulations to all the couples. Honestly, this has been in
such an emotional journey. And speaking of I just want
to take my hat off to Kenya and Brandon. I mean,
they really had a beautiful journey on this show. Kenya,
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you know, isn't that villain that people think she is
on Housewives of Atlanta And we were just talking about
this tonight, like that is not who she is. I
think what people see is a strong woman who is resilient,
who takes no bs, and who honestly is just a
hardworking woman who will not let anyone get her down.
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And I asked her tonight. I was like, you know,
does Housewives? Is that like mess with your mental health?
And she's like, you know, it's just really hard, she said,
to kind of be living that reputation of living like
a villain, you know, And really she's really not you, guys.
She's very sweet. She's very open and vulnerable, and to
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be able to come on this show with that type reputation,
hats off to her. She definitely has improved as a dancer,
but more importantly, she's a wonderful woman and I think
her and Brandon had something special for sure. Al Right, guys,
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Les Slater and Sasha Farber, what's up? Hey, guys, long
time no see? I know. Are you home already? Yeah, babe,
I've got dogs that have been home since like dog
and we ass here and I'm assuming you guys are
not together because you guys are not supposed to be here.
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She is here, she is, I think she's here. I'm sorry, No,
don't be sorry. Oh you're still in your trailer too, Okay,
good trailer? Who always yes, still in the trailer? Okay, guys,
Sasha for stuff. How are you feeling you were in
the bottom two? That was not deserved? I feel great.
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I felt respect it. No, I just feel sorry for
Suny in a way, yeah, because I think they are. Um,
you know she she's doing such a great job. Um,
and she did a great job tonight. She didn't she
really did it such being in the bottom too. But
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hopefully you know, it's not like It's not like I
was upset with the dance. Did I want at ten?
I think take come on world? Yeah, but um, we
just gotta get back into the studio and w and
as you know to how the show works, like whoever
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is in the bottom two that doesn't go home, it's
a it's a push. It just shows your fans that listen.
You know you're gonna have to bring it next week
and it'll just I bet you never are in the
bottom two again. Just put it that way. Yeah, I agree.
I told him that today too, And AM's congratulations. Two
tens and two nights. I told you earlier tonight. Oh
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my god, you guys chilling from camera blocking yesterday. How
has your journey been with Jimmy so far? I talked
to Jimmy last week. I'm pretty messed up, but I
know it's a lot when because you're traveling obviously it's
a lot. Yeah, but what's weird is I always I
say to like the Cassie. I'll say to Dina, who's
obviously a casting director, Like I say to her, like,
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I don't mind traveling because I kind of enjoyed that
suitcase life. I have a bit of wonderlust. That's kind
of my nature. I love excitement, I and I'm wound
go get. It's hard for me to switch off, so
I might as well just stay on the whole time
and just travel. It's the weirdest thing, but like I
do really like it, and it does make it a
lot easier when you have a partner like Jimmy, who
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you know, as you know, it's like just very positive,
very hard working, would become really good friends. He's helping
me out a lot, even in my career that that's
nothing to do with dance, but the journey so far
got fight and it's hard to you know, when you gauge,
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like what type of dancer is my partner? You know,
you you kind of like test him out with certain moves,
and he wasn't really committing. He was putting like he
was shy, like in terms of the sumpability and he
wasn't really committing to it. He was kind of like, well,
what's this, you know, what's this stat show business? So
let me just let me just see for a couple
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of weeks. And then next thing, you know, like I'm
seeing a different side of him, and I'm like, what
the hell does that mean. I always say to my partners,
I'm like, if you are trying to be cool on
a dancing show like Dancing with the Stars, you're gonna
look stupid. You actually have to make fun of us,
and you have to just go literally, like I told
Rob Kardashi in this like make fun of Sasha for instance,
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Like go out there and just pretend that you're one
of the pro dancers. And it works because it's a
really good tool. I'm going to say that to him.
They need to take the pistol. Yeah, yep, and so
did he put. He put a V neck on and
he was like shimming and it was perfect. That's perfect exactly.
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You gotta get in that one frame totally. And I
feel you, Emma, I feel bad for my husband because
like I'm in this Dancing with the Star's bubble right
now where I am like, my mood is so up
and down constantly, whether it could be from insecurity because
I don't think my routine is good or it's just
like a bad day, or it's a great day, or
it's like tonight, like great job. I'm in a great
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mood that I almost when I was traveling in the beginning.
It's like I kind of in a way enjoy it
because I don't want to put turmoil on my relationship
or my marriage. Do you find the same with like
you guys, Like I know you guys are working together technically, right,
but do you find it helpful to be a part
or do you miss each other? Obviously? I think I am.
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I think we actually and I don't know, Sash you
want to degree, but like when we like would help
each other choreograph, I would get very bossy and I
kind of like I like things my way, so we work,
But we actually do work together really well. And I
honestly think that because Sasha is so um, you know,
I'm probably the more difficult one. Sasha is the one
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that is more accommodating. Um and yeah, and it's great,
Like I think it would be really hard, Like my
sister says to me, like how are you able to
be in the same job and you can still like
tolerate each other. I'm like, it doesn't feel like we
we we listen and we like really support Like I
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was very upset when Sasha and Sony were in the
bottom too. Just now and you know, you kind of
just you you you just want the absolute best. So
we've always worked really well. It's never been one of
those relationships where it's been like, oh we both do
we we're always doing the same thing as we never think.
We never were always supportive and and I'm Sasha's really
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really really great at that. So um, I do think
during the season, we don't know, if we were a
part and it wasn't the season, obviously that would be
that would be one thing. But during the season it's
necessary because of COVID, and especially because I'm traveling as well.
That's that extra which you know, both of you guys,
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and like, be careful, please, Emma, like seriously that I
swear I got COVID. I mean, no one knows, right,
but honestly, I definitely got it from the airport, not
necessarily the airplane, but definitely the airplane. I get it.
I get it, and I wouldn't want to ever give that.
Like I really took my mask off to drink it,
maybe a diet coke. I didn't even use the restrooms.
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I'm very mindful about that. Like, And it was just
I don't even know. I think maybe my immune system
from last year, Like I barely did anything other than
come to this show when we were working here last year.
But I think my immune system just isn't as hi
or wasn't as strong. I guess as as what it
is normally, I don't know. Yeah. And also if you're
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thinking about steps and you're in work mode and it's
very draining, is the wrong wood. But it's like all encompassing,
Like you're you're not sleeping, You're probably not eating great,
like you know, the healthiest. You're probably not doing your
you know, you're not taking your old berry cofies or whatever,
because you do definitely not. I'm like, I can. I'm
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lucky if I can have some water once in a while,
if I remember. And yeah, I get very consumed with
this show. So you guys know, I'm here stuffing your face.
Other than Sasha, Um, he definitely finds the time for balance. Um. Yes, Sasha,
tell us about how you balance it although seriously, like
do you I know your dog is so important to
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you guys? Everything there's a so is my dog mind you?
Like literally I will choose my dog over anybody everything.
How do you guys balance like work, marriage, pets, friendships,
and like being able just to have a balanced meal
even during a show like this that consumes your life
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seven days a week. I think, um, the way that
I was brought up with my family being from Russia
and European parents. Oh, I'm looking on TV now, I
thank you. That was again that was all tends you
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know what I mean totally sure. I mean like it's
very very rare when like a celebrity right, like can
give you chills, like and it was really it was,
but we all know like this show is about, um,
a journey, a journey and not to judge of schools.
You have to judge of schools. Help, But it sucks
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for the celebrity. It's absolutely horrible for celebrity. And the
thing is with someone like Sunny, She's like, why aren't
we get intense? And I'm like, babe, like you know
yourself as a dancer, what looks good? What doesn't you know?
What I'm not a dancer, is she No, not me.
I'm saying, oh, got it, got it, got it. Yeah.
So I guess like tomorrow for these post labs, like
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it's hard for Sunny because like she's going to be saying, like,
people don't like me. The comments are bad. Why was
I given this? They keep saying. You know, I guess
it's it's going to be another build up, which I think.
But she's still resilient though, like this is what she does.
She was in the Olympics. You know, I think this
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is so different because in the Olympics she's in her
comfort zone. This is out of her comfort zone. I
don't really think that she's comfortable competing in the Olympics. Yeah,
not becomportable. Didn't look comfortable. Gerald. I mean, like, you know,
think of like take yourself back to you know, No,
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I was never comfortable competing ever. No, I'm staying like
think of like Ryan Watson comfortable. They're constantly in a final,
which means when they get to accomp they live in life. No,
that's not it that when they get to they have pressure.
I'm talking about professional dances who have been in the
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final for many, many years in competing when the final again.
You know, the rounds are like walk in the park,
No way, Sasha, you get okay. I don't know about you, Sasha.
Me and you are close in age, right Like at
the end of the day, it's worse for me. I
could say, I want two mirrorball trophies back in it
doesn't matter. Like it's literally like being sober first of all,
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and then on top of that being older and more
in my head it gets worse. The pressure I put
on myself is far worse than ever before. But the insecurity,
but that soon he has been competing for many, many years.
She knows what a compass. But here it's a new dads.
Every week it's a new Hey, Sonny, you need to
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give more face, more face, and probably the poor girls
like face like um okay, but what about like her friend?
What about the body connection? What about he leads? What
about are you saying that? Are you are you giving
her that pressure? You think? No, I'm trying to make
it as much fun for her, and but I think
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it's hard for someone like Sony to come from where
she just was too learning new steps. You know her
Floritine she has for like three years. So every week,
she's learning a new floritine, and I just feel sorry
for her. I want to help us so much, Like
you know, like when you're a pro on the show,
you get so invested in your partners, like you become
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very protective. So it's like you want her to have
the best to being the best fund, the best time,
best dress, best dance. Whatever. Do you guys find like, okay,
so m Z one right, and Sash, you should have
won so many times by now do you find that
like when you approach the season, the pressure is different
for the both of you, like what you put on yourself.
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I don't know what kind of pressure. I mean, I
know Sasha puts pressure on himself, but I guess we
can't compare it. I know we do put pressure on ourselves,
um as an artists in general. Right, Um, it's so weird.
I can say that I have one many times you
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have yes, because of my relationship with my celebs, I
feel like I have friends for life. But I'm shocked
I feel like you have one actually, Like it's shocking
because like I always see you in that final Yeah,
I mean it's been it's it's definitely been a dream.
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But like I said, like it's it's hard to say.
Like when you do a freestyle, yeah, and you get
the top scores and it feels good and you're like, yes,
that's enough, Like yeah, you don't get the mirorable, but
that's enough, like to have a feeling, that feeling of
like when you finish that freestyle, you know like triumph,
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that's yeah, and the rest is out of your hands.
You can only control what you can control. Do you
guys still get nervous before you perform? Like do you
guys meditate? What do you guys do? I? I meditate.
I get very nervous. I'm yeah, I'm an EmPATH, but
like majorly, and so I will feel everything my partners
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feel and they and Jimmy does get nervous. He gets
pretty nervous and I can feel it, even to the
point where on week one we were practicing. You know,
you get like a few minutes right before you go on,
you get practice a little bit. And I'm sure Cody
does this too. Does he get nervous? Cody? I mean,
do you see him like he can't stand still? He's
like I went into and three in front of Like
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I'm like, Cody, you're gonna take a zan exper like
you're going to have to chill. Yeah, Well, my partner,
his heart starts going and he starts getting really nervous.
And I know this because my heart starts going and
I start getting I literally turned into every single partner
that I'm with. If I'm dancing, if I'm dancing with Richard,
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it is confident and sexy. If I'm dancing with it
was humorous but nervous. Have you always been like this? Yeah,
I'm like I've been like this for like, like I'll
pick up everyone's energy. It's really really obvious to me.
It's very like I feel the same. I feel like
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literally I'll be driving and I'll see a couple, let's say,
walking on the sidewalk, and I feel the pain sometimes
or I feel the happiness. Maybe I'm just thinking that
I am. I don't know if is there such there
is such thing, right like, oh my god, you don't
know this. You have to. It's a full on thing
for me, Cheryl. I've had to understand this because like,
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for instance, do we starts crying in this in this
um in this performance, and obviously it's emotional performance. So
there was a few people that told me, I'm yes,
this is a contemporary that we did. We did tome
but um, like it doesn't matter if he feels something
or if he cries, if anybody cries, I'll cry right
the same. Yeah, you're the same, You're it. You just
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just you just take on people's energy. Yes, And it's
it's a very heavy at times, right, and it's so exhausting.
It's like, yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess there is
such a thing. And how about you, Sash, do you
have that same feel or you're just like you're um,
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do you? I saw he gets shot? Good mon, But
that's that's why you guys work. How long have you
guys been married now? Three years? Three years and a
half and half? Are there kids in your future or well, Sasha,
wouldn't you think you guy? I go open down. I
go open down because I definitely am at that age
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now where I do get baby fever very much so.
And then Jimmy just had kids, my partner just had
kids and another kid, and and absolutely there I go
through phrases absolutely do I want kids? Yeah? And I
do get baby fever, And I do know that deep
down in side, even though sometimes Sasha tells me, Oh,
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I don't know what kind of mom you will be,
because I can be quite selfish, and I am. I'm
selfish and I can be too. But that's great that
you noticed that. Yeah, it's a start, but you know,
you know when you I just this, there's something. I
feel like your career is not over yet here, you
know what I mean, Like it's a it's a big deal.
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I'm waiting for a switch. I'm waiting for a change.
I know I'm not going to be a dancer forever.
I'm waiting for that moment where I'm like, I'm moving
into that next phase. Now I feel comfortable. And maybe
it's a selfish thing to think like that when you're
you know, um, in your thirties and you have been married.
Well we you know, people always ask us about kids.
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It comes and goes, but obviously I do I think
it's selfless that you're understanding that maybe now is not
the time right because if you were to actually bring
in a baby right now and you were like you,
I feel the same exact way as you do. MS.
I also have body dysmorphia, so like I am more
worried actually about the way my body will look like
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if I have a kid, if I, god forbid want
to come back to the show, or if I want
to just at the end of the day, we use
our bodies on a steed to make money, and no
matter how disgusting that sounds, it is what it is.
I think I definitely have a stub way of our
perspective and what my body looks like. This is called
pretty messed up and we can swear well what then,
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But I hear you like, it's just a lot of
pressure that society puts on you too. Yeah, I wish
so it's as could could get pregnant. It probably no pregnant.
I think a good little mother. I think it all
depends on priorities and how your I guess what's more important.
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I think the way that I'm brought up is I
think family over everything. So I think at the end
of the day, you have to weigh in of what's
more important to your work. Well, this or that that
can come and go, or for example, having a baby
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or you know, um, but it's never too late to
have a baby. It's never too late. But there's a
lot of scenarios involved in it, you know. You know,
do you want do you want I guess your parents
just to meet your grandson. Do you want your parents
to you know, to see your grandson go to high school?
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Or I guess like it's something that so is it
something that you want obviously what he wants? Kids? I
just think sometimes to be huh, yes you do, isn't
it short? Sometimes they can be you know, you need, um,
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you need what's the word I'm looking for, Like responsibility?
You you also need like let's be real here, Like
also though, you have to weigh out, like what is
it that you may want to continue doing when it
comes to your passion in life, because you don't want
to resent your kid either. But that's that's the thing.
You're putting your passion in front of a kid. What kid,
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there's not it's non existence right right. But what I'm
saying is you're saying I want to go and work,
and you're working with that. But you guys love this
like you guys love dancing like I do. Like at
the end of the day, we also have to put
into reality that we're women and a woman's maybe dance
doesn't last very But everyone's different, right, I think I think,
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I think that there are different types of women. And
some are naturally going to and and it doesn't matter
say if they're say they're all destined to have kids.
A group of women, they're all actually going to find
that transition easier to becoming a mom and finding their
role in I am a mom that and some are
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going to have motherly instincts. But letting go the career,
that aspect of it, even though they're going to be
just as good of a mom, letting go of that
career is going to be a little hard, don't you
think totally? And let me tell you yes. And some
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piece of women are literally born to have babies, like
I can't tell you, Like the woman I had, I
had an assistant, right and she still works for me,
but barely now because she just has popped out like
five babies in literally three years. And let me tell
you something, she is made to have babies. She had
her baby in the car in the parking lot of Cedars,
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literally just had it, okay, no painkillers, nothing. And I'm
telling you, if she pop that sh out and it
was like all right, answering emails back you, I I
would be so just freaking I'd be going through major trauma.
There's no way, Like, I don't. I think that I
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have so much insecurity that my fear would be going
through um post traumatic you know, like just being like
having weird feelings towards my baby because maybe the way
my body looks, or because I didn't finish what I
was supposed to be finishing, whether that be my dance
career or another type of career. When you know, you know,
I know, you're never ready, but when you know that
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you want one, you know a h and at the
end of the day, sorry guys, but we're the ones
having to have the baby. So I know that's why
I think it would have been really puppy. If that's
what I say about my husband. I'm like, if Matt
could have the freaking baby, we would be fine. We
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would have already had to, right, I know, listen, it's
the it's it's I know, huh right. And nowadays it's
we can have babies. We can have a surrogate, you know. Yeah, Oh,
there's so many options for sure. Slasha is not into that. Yeah, no,
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I said I wanted to adopt. I would have two
two kids of my own if if nature allows it,
and then and then I would love to adopt a
third one. Same well, Sa, Yeah all right, yeah, adoption parents.
That's like you can do all kinds of parenting, and
he says full parents exactly. I love you guys. You
guys love me. Thank you for taking the time to
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do this. Of course, we love you so much. Just
been just like a chat with friends. I know, right,
so I do this like actually without all of this. Yeah,
I love you so much. Have a good nime. Thank
you bye. All right. Thanks to Sasha and Emma. I
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know that they are so busy. I mean clearly, Sasha
was eating his dinner as he was doing this. I
actually had to have a little pow wow with him
before this podcast, and I kind of was like, Sasha,
you're doing my podcast right, and he's like, I'm so busy.
I have to choreograph for next week. I'm happy he
came through. Thank you both so much. Emma, safe travels.
(29:24):
You know, if anyone's got a crazy schedule, it's Emma
and Jimmy eight moment there. Currently, he's currently on tour.
They're in a different city, state every single day. And
Emma just has this amazing aura about her. She's so
positive and she um loves what she does and you
can tell, and her and Jimmy have such a great bond,
as do Sasha and Sunny. So make sure you check
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all of us out again next week on Dancing with
the Stars, it's going to be Queen Night and I'll
I'll give you guys a little sneak peak. We're basically
doing a fox trot to your my best friend, and
um basically, this story is going to be a personal
and a very emotional story of Cody's um so and
(30:09):
something that's also near and dear to my heart, especially
when it comes to like addiction and stuff like that.
So make sure you tune in. It's going to be
an emotional one for for us at least. And um yeah,
it's a close competition, you guys, make sure you vote
and um yeah, comment here and let me know what
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Hey, guys, welcome back to pretty Mess Up Dancing with Myself.
This is Cheryl Burke, your host, and we are here
to talk about all things Dancing with the Stars Season thirty.
You guys, this is week six in the competition. Me
and my partner Cody Rigsby still kicking literally and we
actually for the first time got positive remarks from the
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judges and we got all nines, four nines. Wow. I
knew it though. I knew that this dance for Cody,
the chat up, was going to be his best dance.
Yet we actually, I have to say, we approached things
differently this week. You know, we really took what the
judges had to say when it comes to their constructive
criticism on like having to partner more and really being
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able to work on the details. Now that we're not traveling,
we've got you know, as much rehearsal time as everybody else.
COVID is no longer an issue, and so we really
worked hard to the point where, you know, we had
time to work on the details. And so I'm just
at the end of the day, really proud of Cody.
He deserves finally some positive feedback. You know, this has
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not been an easy journey for him. It's been very emotional,
but also I hope that it's been not just discouraging
but also encouraging. Especially now this is the time that
you know, you really want to make a statement out
there in the ballroom because we're heading to the last
half of the competition, and this is where things get
really tricky because everybody obviously there's been a lot of
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thirties being given out this this night and last week
as well. You've got a Mom and Danielle. Holy crap,
that was some amazing choreography. Honestly, I went up to
Danielle m who, by the way, her grandma just passed,
so on top of her being very emotional, this is
all new to her. You know, she's not um a vet,
I guess you can say when it comes to dancing
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with the stars, but she is a vet when it
comes to ballroom dancing in general. She is an amazing dancer.
Her and her husband Pasha there. I mean, if you
want to just talk about competition, they're the ones to
beat as far as in the competitive ballroom dancing world.
But what she has done with Nellie last season and
now with a mon has been just mind blowing and
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so refreshing to watch that. Like, I honestly, I have
to give props to Danielle. She has been so clever
with her choreography and really knows how to make her
partner shine. And so, you know what, it is not
easy coming into a show like Dancing with the Stars
that's been a machine for thirty seasons and making a
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statement like that. So props to Danielle, Props to the
other perfect score Joejoe and Jenna, and I believe there
was another perfect score um as well. And there's lots
of tens just you know, being given out to people
that deserve them. And and I feel like with Cody
and I like we're right where we want to be.
We're slowly improving, and at the end of the day,
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it's about the journey, you know, It's truly about the
journey you have as a partnership together on Dancing with
the Stars more than it is an individual dance competition. Um.
But now things get challenging. We don't have just one dance.
We've got two dances. Next week it's Queen Night and
we've got our solo dance and then a relay dance,
which is basically you really get to see what the
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competition is because you've got three couples basically doing the
same song, dancing the same style of dance, different choreography,
and at different times. But you can really compare, right,
So we've got that as well. So this week is
going to be a long week. Like I've said here before,
you can only celebrate so long before you get so
overwhelmed with what needs to be done as far as
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choreography and what the week entails. So I am just
proud of Cody Is for saving us another week. And yeah,
congratulations to all the couples. Honestly, this has been in
such an emotional journey. And speaking of I just want
to take my hat off to Kenya and Brandon. I mean,
they really had a beautiful journey on this show. Kenya,
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you know, isn't that villain that people think she is
on Housewives of Atlanta And we were just talking about
this tonight, like that is not who she is. I
think what people see is a strong woman who is resilient,
who takes no bs, and who honestly is just a
hardworking woman who will not let anyone get her down.
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And I asked her tonight. I was like, you know,
does Housewives? Is that like mess with your mental health?
And she's like, you know, it's just really hard, she said,
to kind of be living that reputation of living like
a villain, you know, And really she's really not you, guys.
She's very sweet. She's very open and vulnerable, and to
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be able to come on this show with that type reputation,
hats off to her. She definitely has improved as a dancer,
but more importantly, she's a wonderful woman and I think
her and Brandon had something special for sure. Al Right, guys,
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Les Slater and Sasha Farber, what's up? Hey, guys, long
time no see? I know. Are you home already? Yeah, babe,
I've got dogs that have been home since like dog
and we ass here and I'm assuming you guys are
not together because you guys are not supposed to be here.
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She is here, she is, I think she's here. I'm sorry, No,
don't be sorry. Oh you're still in your trailer too, Okay,
good trailer? Who always yes, still in the trailer? Okay, guys,
Sasha for stuff. How are you feeling you were in
the bottom two? That was not deserved? I feel great.
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I felt respect it. No, I just feel sorry for
Suny in a way, yeah, because I think they are. Um,
you know she she's doing such a great job. Um,
and she did a great job tonight. She didn't she
really did it such being in the bottom too. But
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hopefully you know, it's not like It's not like I
was upset with the dance. Did I want at ten?
I think take come on world? Yeah, but um, we
just gotta get back into the studio and w and
as you know to how the show works, like whoever
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is in the bottom two that doesn't go home, it's
a it's a push. It just shows your fans that listen.
You know you're gonna have to bring it next week
and it'll just I bet you never are in the
bottom two again. Just put it that way. Yeah, I agree.
I told him that today too, And AM's congratulations. Two
tens and two nights. I told you earlier tonight. Oh
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my god, you guys chilling from camera blocking yesterday. How
has your journey been with Jimmy so far? I talked
to Jimmy last week. I'm pretty messed up, but I
know it's a lot when because you're traveling obviously it's
a lot. Yeah, but what's weird is I always I
say to like the Cassie. I'll say to Dina, who's
obviously a casting director, Like I say to her, like,
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I don't mind traveling because I kind of enjoyed that
suitcase life. I have a bit of wonderlust. That's kind
of my nature. I love excitement, I and I'm wound
go get. It's hard for me to switch off, so
I might as well just stay on the whole time
and just travel. It's the weirdest thing, but like I
do really like it, and it does make it a
lot easier when you have a partner like Jimmy, who
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you know, as you know, it's like just very positive,
very hard working, would become really good friends. He's helping
me out a lot, even in my career that that's
nothing to do with dance, but the journey so far
got fight and it's hard to you know, when you gauge,
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like what type of dancer is my partner? You know,
you you kind of like test him out with certain moves,
and he wasn't really committing. He was putting like he
was shy, like in terms of the sumpability and he
wasn't really committing to it. He was kind of like, well,
what's this, you know, what's this stat show business? So
let me just let me just see for a couple
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of weeks. And then next thing, you know, like I'm
seeing a different side of him, and I'm like, what
the hell does that mean. I always say to my partners,
I'm like, if you are trying to be cool on
a dancing show like Dancing with the Stars, you're gonna
look stupid. You actually have to make fun of us,
and you have to just go literally, like I told
Rob Kardashi in this like make fun of Sasha for instance,
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Like go out there and just pretend that you're one
of the pro dancers. And it works because it's a
really good tool. I'm going to say that to him.
They need to take the pistol. Yeah, yep, and so
did he put. He put a V neck on and
he was like shimming and it was perfect. That's perfect exactly.
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You gotta get in that one frame totally. And I
feel you, Emma, I feel bad for my husband because
like I'm in this Dancing with the Star's bubble right
now where I am like, my mood is so up
and down constantly, whether it could be from insecurity because
I don't think my routine is good or it's just
like a bad day, or it's a great day, or
it's like tonight, like great job. I'm in a great
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mood that I almost when I was traveling in the beginning.
It's like I kind of in a way enjoy it
because I don't want to put turmoil on my relationship
or my marriage. Do you find the same with like
you guys, Like I know you guys are working together technically, right,
but do you find it helpful to be a part
or do you miss each other? Obviously? I think I am.
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I think we actually and I don't know, Sash you
want to degree, but like when we like would help
each other choreograph, I would get very bossy and I
kind of like I like things my way, so we work,
But we actually do work together really well. And I
honestly think that because Sasha is so um, you know,
I'm probably the more difficult one. Sasha is the one
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that is more accommodating. Um and yeah, and it's great,
Like I think it would be really hard, Like my
sister says to me, like how are you able to
be in the same job and you can still like
tolerate each other. I'm like, it doesn't feel like we
we we listen and we like really support Like I
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was very upset when Sasha and Sony were in the
bottom too. Just now and you know, you kind of
just you you you just want the absolute best. So
we've always worked really well. It's never been one of
those relationships where it's been like, oh we both do
we we're always doing the same thing as we never think.
We never were always supportive and and I'm Sasha's really
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really really great at that. So um, I do think
during the season, we don't know, if we were a
part and it wasn't the season, obviously that would be
that would be one thing. But during the season it's
necessary because of COVID, and especially because I'm traveling as well.
That's that extra which you know, both of you guys,
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and like, be careful, please, Emma, like seriously that I
swear I got COVID. I mean, no one knows, right,
but honestly, I definitely got it from the airport, not
necessarily the airplane, but definitely the airplane. I get it.
I get it, and I wouldn't want to ever give that.
Like I really took my mask off to drink it,
maybe a diet coke. I didn't even use the restrooms.
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I'm very mindful about that. Like, And it was just
I don't even know. I think maybe my immune system
from last year, Like I barely did anything other than
come to this show when we were working here last year.
But I think my immune system just isn't as hi
or wasn't as strong. I guess as as what it
is normally, I don't know. Yeah. And also if you're
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thinking about steps and you're in work mode and it's
very draining, is the wrong wood. But it's like all encompassing,
Like you're you're not sleeping, You're probably not eating great,
like you know, the healthiest. You're probably not doing your
you know, you're not taking your old berry cofies or whatever,
because you do definitely not. I'm like, I can. I'm
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lucky if I can have some water once in a while,
if I remember. And yeah, I get very consumed with
this show. So you guys know, I'm here stuffing your face.
Other than Sasha, Um, he definitely finds the time for balance. Um. Yes, Sasha,
tell us about how you balance it although seriously, like
do you I know your dog is so important to
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you guys? Everything there's a so is my dog mind you?
Like literally I will choose my dog over anybody everything.
How do you guys balance like work, marriage, pets, friendships,
and like being able just to have a balanced meal
even during a show like this that consumes your life
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seven days a week. I think, um, the way that
I was brought up with my family being from Russia
and European parents. Oh, I'm looking on TV now, I
thank you. That was again that was all tends you
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know what I mean totally sure. I mean like it's
very very rare when like a celebrity right, like can
give you chills, like and it was really it was,
but we all know like this show is about, um,
a journey, a journey and not to judge of schools.
You have to judge of schools. Help, But it sucks
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for the celebrity. It's absolutely horrible for celebrity. And the
thing is with someone like Sunny, She's like, why aren't
we get intense? And I'm like, babe, like you know
yourself as a dancer, what looks good? What doesn't you know?
What I'm not a dancer, is she No, not me.
I'm saying, oh, got it, got it, got it. Yeah.
So I guess like tomorrow for these post labs, like
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it's hard for Sunny because like she's going to be saying, like,
people don't like me. The comments are bad. Why was
I given this? They keep saying. You know, I guess
it's it's going to be another build up, which I think.
But she's still resilient though, like this is what she does.
She was in the Olympics. You know, I think this
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is so different because in the Olympics she's in her
comfort zone. This is out of her comfort zone. I
don't really think that she's comfortable competing in the Olympics. Yeah,
not becomportable. Didn't look comfortable. Gerald. I mean, like, you know,
think of like take yourself back to you know, No,
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I was never comfortable competing ever. No, I'm staying like
think of like Ryan Watson comfortable. They're constantly in a final,
which means when they get to accomp they live in life. No,
that's not it that when they get to they have pressure.
I'm talking about professional dances who have been in the
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final for many, many years in competing when the final again.
You know, the rounds are like walk in the park,
No way, Sasha, you get okay. I don't know about you, Sasha.
Me and you are close in age, right Like at
the end of the day, it's worse for me. I
could say, I want two mirrorball trophies back in it
doesn't matter. Like it's literally like being sober first of all,
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and then on top of that being older and more
in my head it gets worse. The pressure I put
on myself is far worse than ever before. But the insecurity,
but that soon he has been competing for many, many years.
She knows what a compass. But here it's a new dads.
Every week it's a new Hey, Sonny, you need to
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give more face, more face, and probably the poor girls
like face like um okay, but what about like her friend?
What about the body connection? What about he leads? What
about are you saying that? Are you are you giving
her that pressure? You think? No, I'm trying to make
it as much fun for her, and but I think
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it's hard for someone like Sony to come from where
she just was too learning new steps. You know her
Floritine she has for like three years. So every week,
she's learning a new floritine, and I just feel sorry
for her. I want to help us so much, Like
you know, like when you're a pro on the show,
you get so invested in your partners, like you become
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very protective. So it's like you want her to have
the best to being the best fund, the best time,
best dress, best dance. Whatever. Do you guys find like, okay,
so m Z one right, and Sash, you should have
won so many times by now do you find that
like when you approach the season, the pressure is different
for the both of you, like what you put on yourself.
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I don't know what kind of pressure. I mean, I
know Sasha puts pressure on himself, but I guess we
can't compare it. I know we do put pressure on ourselves,
um as an artists in general. Right, Um, it's so weird.
I can say that I have one many times you
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have yes, because of my relationship with my celebs, I
feel like I have friends for life. But I'm shocked
I feel like you have one actually, Like it's shocking
because like I always see you in that final Yeah,
I mean it's been it's it's definitely been a dream.
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But like I said, like it's it's hard to say.
Like when you do a freestyle, yeah, and you get
the top scores and it feels good and you're like, yes,
that's enough, Like yeah, you don't get the mirorable, but
that's enough, like to have a feeling, that feeling of
like when you finish that freestyle, you know like triumph,
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that's yeah, and the rest is out of your hands.
You can only control what you can control. Do you
guys still get nervous before you perform? Like do you
guys meditate? What do you guys do? I? I meditate.
I get very nervous. I'm yeah, I'm an EmPATH, but
like majorly, and so I will feel everything my partners
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feel and they and Jimmy does get nervous. He gets
pretty nervous and I can feel it, even to the
point where on week one we were practicing. You know,
you get like a few minutes right before you go on,
you get practice a little bit. And I'm sure Cody
does this too. Does he get nervous? Cody? I mean,
do you see him like he can't stand still? He's
like I went into and three in front of Like
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I'm like, Cody, you're gonna take a zan exper like
you're going to have to chill. Yeah, Well, my partner,
his heart starts going and he starts getting really nervous.
And I know this because my heart starts going and
I start getting I literally turned into every single partner
that I'm with. If I'm dancing, if I'm dancing with Richard,
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it is confident and sexy. If I'm dancing with it
was humorous but nervous. Have you always been like this? Yeah,
I'm like I've been like this for like, like I'll
pick up everyone's energy. It's really really obvious to me.
It's very like I feel the same. I feel like
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literally I'll be driving and I'll see a couple, let's say,
walking on the sidewalk, and I feel the pain sometimes
or I feel the happiness. Maybe I'm just thinking that
I am. I don't know if is there such there
is such thing, right like, oh my god, you don't
know this. You have to. It's a full on thing
for me, Cheryl. I've had to understand this because like,
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for instance, do we starts crying in this in this
um in this performance, and obviously it's emotional performance. So
there was a few people that told me, I'm yes,
this is a contemporary that we did. We did tome
but um, like it doesn't matter if he feels something
or if he cries, if anybody cries, I'll cry right
the same. Yeah, you're the same, You're it. You just
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just you just take on people's energy. Yes, And it's
it's a very heavy at times, right, and it's so exhausting.
It's like, yeah, I guess, yeah, I guess there is
such a thing. And how about you, Sash, do you
have that same feel or you're just like you're um,
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do you? I saw he gets shot? Good mon, But
that's that's why you guys work. How long have you
guys been married now? Three years? Three years and a
half and half? Are there kids in your future or well, Sasha,
wouldn't you think you guy? I go open down. I
go open down because I definitely am at that age
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now where I do get baby fever very much so.
And then Jimmy just had kids, my partner just had
kids and another kid, and and absolutely there I go
through phrases absolutely do I want kids? Yeah? And I
do get baby fever, And I do know that deep
down in side, even though sometimes Sasha tells me, Oh,
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I don't know what kind of mom you will be,
because I can be quite selfish, and I am. I'm
selfish and I can be too. But that's great that
you noticed that. Yeah, it's a start, but you know,
you know when you I just this, there's something. I
feel like your career is not over yet here, you
know what I mean, Like it's a it's a big deal.
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I'm waiting for a switch. I'm waiting for a change.
I know I'm not going to be a dancer forever.
I'm waiting for that moment where I'm like, I'm moving
into that next phase. Now I feel comfortable. And maybe
it's a selfish thing to think like that when you're
you know, um, in your thirties and you have been married.
Well we you know, people always ask us about kids.
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It comes and goes, but obviously I do I think
it's selfless that you're understanding that maybe now is not
the time right because if you were to actually bring
in a baby right now and you were like you,
I feel the same exact way as you do. MS.
I also have body dysmorphia, so like I am more
worried actually about the way my body will look like
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if I have a kid, if I, god forbid want
to come back to the show, or if I want
to just at the end of the day, we use
our bodies on a steed to make money, and no
matter how disgusting that sounds, it is what it is.
I think I definitely have a stub way of our
perspective and what my body looks like. This is called
pretty messed up and we can swear well what then,
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But I hear you like, it's just a lot of
pressure that society puts on you too. Yeah, I wish
so it's as could could get pregnant. It probably no pregnant.
I think a good little mother. I think it all
depends on priorities and how your I guess what's more important.
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I think the way that I'm brought up is I
think family over everything. So I think at the end
of the day, you have to weigh in of what's
more important to your work. Well, this or that that
can come and go, or for example, having a baby
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or you know, um, but it's never too late to
have a baby. It's never too late. But there's a
lot of scenarios involved in it, you know. You know,
do you want do you want I guess your parents
just to meet your grandson. Do you want your parents
to you know, to see your grandson go to high school?
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Or I guess like it's something that so is it
something that you want obviously what he wants? Kids? I
just think sometimes to be huh, yes you do, isn't
it short? Sometimes they can be you know, you need, um,
(24:54):
you need what's the word I'm looking for, Like responsibility?
You you also need like let's be real here, Like
also though, you have to weigh out, like what is
it that you may want to continue doing when it
comes to your passion in life, because you don't want
to resent your kid either. But that's that's the thing.
You're putting your passion in front of a kid. What kid,
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there's not it's non existence right right. But what I'm
saying is you're saying I want to go and work,
and you're working with that. But you guys love this
like you guys love dancing like I do. Like at
the end of the day, we also have to put
into reality that we're women and a woman's maybe dance
doesn't last very But everyone's different, right, I think I think,
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I think that there are different types of women. And
some are naturally going to and and it doesn't matter
say if they're say they're all destined to have kids.
A group of women, they're all actually going to find
that transition easier to becoming a mom and finding their
role in I am a mom that and some are
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going to have motherly instincts. But letting go the career,
that aspect of it, even though they're going to be
just as good of a mom, letting go of that
career is going to be a little hard, don't you
think totally? And let me tell you yes. And some
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piece of women are literally born to have babies, like
I can't tell you, Like the woman I had, I
had an assistant, right and she still works for me,
but barely now because she just has popped out like
five babies in literally three years. And let me tell
you something, she is made to have babies. She had
her baby in the car in the parking lot of Cedars,
(26:46):
literally just had it, okay, no painkillers, nothing. And I'm
telling you, if she pop that sh out and it
was like all right, answering emails back you, I I
would be so just freaking I'd be going through major trauma.
There's no way, Like, I don't. I think that I
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have so much insecurity that my fear would be going
through um post traumatic you know, like just being like
having weird feelings towards my baby because maybe the way
my body looks, or because I didn't finish what I
was supposed to be finishing, whether that be my dance
career or another type of career. When you know, you know,
I know, you're never ready, but when you know that
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you want one, you know a h and at the
end of the day, sorry guys, but we're the ones
having to have the baby. So I know that's why
I think it would have been really puppy. If that's
what I say about my husband. I'm like, if Matt
could have the freaking baby, we would be fine. We
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would have already had to, right, I know, listen, it's
the it's it's I know, huh right. And nowadays it's
we can have babies. We can have a surrogate, you know. Yeah, Oh,
there's so many options for sure. Slasha is not into that. Yeah, no,
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I said I wanted to adopt. I would have two
two kids of my own if if nature allows it,
and then and then I would love to adopt a
third one. Same well, Sa, Yeah all right, yeah, adoption parents.
That's like you can do all kinds of parenting, and
he says full parents exactly. I love you guys. You
guys love me. Thank you for taking the time to
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do this. Of course, we love you so much. Just
been just like a chat with friends. I know, right,
so I do this like actually without all of this. Yeah,
I love you so much. Have a good nime. Thank
you bye. All right. Thanks to Sasha and Emma. I
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know that they are so busy. I mean clearly, Sasha
was eating his dinner as he was doing this. I
actually had to have a little pow wow with him
before this podcast, and I kind of was like, Sasha,
you're doing my podcast right, and he's like, I'm so busy.
I have to choreograph for next week. I'm happy he
came through. Thank you both so much. Emma, safe travels.
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You know, if anyone's got a crazy schedule, it's Emma
and Jimmy eight moment there. Currently, he's currently on tour.
They're in a different city, state every single day. And
Emma just has this amazing aura about her. She's so
positive and she um loves what she does and you
can tell, and her and Jimmy have such a great bond,
as do Sasha and Sunny. So make sure you check
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all of us out again next week on Dancing with
the Stars, it's going to be Queen Night and I'll
I'll give you guys a little sneak peak. We're basically
doing a fox trot to your my best friend, and
um basically, this story is going to be a personal
and a very emotional story of Cody's um so and
(30:09):
something that's also near and dear to my heart, especially
when it comes to like addiction and stuff like that.
So make sure you tune in. It's going to be
an emotional one for for us at least. And um yeah,
it's a close competition, you guys, make sure you vote
and um yeah, comment here and let me know what
you guys think so far of this little spinoff that
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