June 3, 2025 • 41 mins
In this week's episode of The Professional Homegirl Podcast, Eboné sits down with a stripper who shares how she got started in the industry and opens up about the realities of stripper appropriation and colorism within the space. She also speaks candidly about the hypersexualization of women—especially Black women—by men.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode contains sensitive topics. Listening discretion is advice, hellove
professional homegirls, it'sha girl, ebenet here, and I hope all
is cute now. In this week's rewind episode, I sat
(00:23):
down with a shripper who shared her story from how
she got started in the industry to her thoughts on
stripper appropriation and the effects of colorism. She also opened
up about how men overly hyper sexualized her once they
found out that she.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Was a shripper.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Y'all, I don't know if y'all knew this about me,
but back in the day, I used to love going
to strip clubs. I'm talking about, like, you could not
keep my little ass out of a strip club. I mean,
you had the vibes, you had the niggas with the money.
But most importantly, y'all, shrip clubs had the best food,
like as I can't remember the club and queens. I
(01:02):
don't know why, I'm thinking sus but I don't know
if that's the name of the one in Queen's. But y'all,
they had the best hot wings. I'm talking about, like,
oh my god, best hot wings. So if you knew me,
you know I was really excited to chat with this
week's episode. Also, this episode was recorded in twenty nineteen,
so I'm definitely gonna do like a follow up series
(01:25):
and reach out to some of our favorite professional homegirls
from back in the day and just see where they at,
what they doing, you know what I'm saying, Do they
leave that nigga? You know, I know things of that nature.
So if you have a favorite guest from back in
the day when we first started with the Professional Homegirl Podcast,
please make sure to email me at hello at thephgpodcast
dot com so we can see what they've been up to. Okay,
(01:47):
so let's get into it, y'all, because I am a
shripper stars now.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So how you feeling. I'm super excited to have you
on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Thank you so much. I'm really excited to be here.
I'm a little nervous, but I know everybody's nervous. Why
you're nervous, I don't know, because it's like no one's
ever asked me to actually like talk about like you know,
the stuff that I talk about. But I'm so glad
to like I actually do it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So I'm so happy that you're a part of this
week's episode. So this week episode. I'm an interviewing a
shripper and I have a list of questions, but I
want to share the story. So I went to Miami
a couple of weeks ago just to like get away
and like to relax and stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And when I found.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Your page, you talked about colorism, which we're gonna talk
about later, but you talked about colorism within the shrip
club industry. And I know because you're a brownie, so
I know that colorism is something that we have to
constantly deal with, but I never thought about it being
in the shrip club. So me and my boyfriend went
to the strip club in Miami, and literally when I
(02:46):
read your article about colorism, I didn't see no brownies
in the shrip club. Yeah, And I was like, I
was turned off, and I was like, we gotta go.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah. It's sadly, especially in like bigger cities like that,
I think that you tend to see it more because
especially in urban clubs, they feel they need to keep
like this image that they have, so especially with places
like say like G five or something like that. That's
the love that it's kind of somewhat new compared to
you know, like a King of diamonds or something like that.
So they want to upkeep this image of having these
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desirable girls. So then they'll only really kind of like hire.
They'll have a couple of brown skin girls, a couple
of dark skin girls, just to be like, oh well,
we don't discriminate. But then it's like the the main
girls that you see will be light skinned girls. Girl,
but they're gonna talk about it later. But I was
just like I thought about you, and I.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Was just like, I don't see nobody that looks like
me in here, so I can't support this, like I.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Gotta rely exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
But my first question is, so how long have you
been a stripper?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I have been a stripper about a year and three
months now. And how old were you when you first started?
I was eighteen years old.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So how do you feel about from when you first
started to where you at now?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh? God, I have learned so much. And you know,
the crazy thing is is the first time I ever
auditioned at a strip club, I came into a situation
where I faced colorism and I didn't even like know it,
like you know what I mean, because I was like,
so like, you know, I knew nothing. I had never
even been to a strip club before I ever auditioned
that one. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So like I knew nothing about this life and just
compared to how I started and where I'm at now,
I've learned so much, not only about stripping, but it's
taught me so much about myself as well. I've had
to have create boundaries and whatnot. And you know, just
like it's like I always said, like the strip club
very much helped me find myself at a young age.
And it's crazy that I say that to people. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So yeah, yeah, So what were some of the events
that led you to the decision that dancing was the
answer to your solution at that time?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh? God, So basically I had I was in college,
I moved out of my mom's house. I was working
at Chick fil A at the time. Oh good, I
love it. I love them too, But then I don't
pay enough, so right, so you know, my little five
hundred dollar checks they would like it would not be
enough for me to try to be in school and
(05:11):
pay my rent and just try to survive. So basically,
I had a friend she had moved to where I
met from Dallas, Texas, and she was working at a
club out there, but she was a waitress. So when
she came out here, she was like, I'm gonna like
try to look for waitress jobs. But see IU here,
like there's not a lot of waitress jobs, like mainly
all the clubs they're just strippers. And so finally she
(05:35):
was like, well, I'm just gonna have to dance and
make some money. And she was like you want to
do it with me? And I was like I already
needed some money. I was like twenty dollars short for
my rent. I did not have no money. So I
was like I don't have no choice, Like it's either
shake ass or get evicted. So you know, so yeah,
that's basically how I started dancing. I started dancing quit
my job at check fil a.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And it was his sister was asking your folks for help,
not an option, because I know, like when I on
my back.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Was like literally in the wall. I have a lot
of options. That family was not one of them. So
that's why I'm asking. Yeah. So for me, it's like
I come from a single parent home, Like you know
what I mean, my mom she has her own bills,
like you know, she she's living paycheck to paycheck, and
even I talk about that even with my blog about
just like financial literacy and stuff like that. No one
had ever taught me anything about money. So not only
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was I not making a lot of money, but then
it's like I never knew how to save thing, like
you know what I mean, because I saw that growing up.
So the only person, the only person I really ever
had like to fall back on, was my grandma a
little bit. But you know, my Grandma's seventy two years old,
like you know what I mean. She she could do yeah, exactly.
So it's like I really didn't have anyone any plan
to fall back on, so I had no choice but
(06:43):
to start stripping.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So how was your first night? Cause I if I
can pretty assume that she was a little nervous, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So the crazy thing is is that when I Okay,
so when I started dancing, I started dancing at gentleman clubs,
so that's a very different vibe from of course urban clubs.
And I remember the club that I danced at, they
didn't do like lap dances. They only did like vip dances,
vip rooms, champagne rooms. So I remember the first time
I had to go and sell a shamp like. No,
(07:14):
it was in a champagne room. It was a VIP dance.
It was like two songs for sixty dollars or something
like that, and I remember I was just like so
scared to like just like go in there and like
be with this guy. But mind you that, like all
the managers and stuff, they knew was my first time dancing,
so you know, they were like really watching out for me.
And that's what I really liked to buy that club
as well. But I just remember just being nervous to
(07:36):
just be I was never nervous to get on stage. Yeah,
that's the craziest part. Most people are nervous to dance,
but I was just never nervous to dance for some reason,
to be naked in front of people. But the whole
being alone in a VIP room, that's.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, because you don't know what niggas be about to
do it exactly. But how was that transition from the
gentlemen's club to urban trip club.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So basically what happened was that, you know, I got
myself into some trouble in school, got arrested, so I
had to, you know, move back to my hometown. It's
a long story, but yeah, so I got kicked out
of my apartment, so I had to come back to
my hometown. But where I live at urban clubs are
(08:18):
there's a couple more urban clubs, and it's actually really
harder for not only black women, but brown skinned women
too to get hired at these white clubs. So I
really knew that I really didn't have a choice but
to work at the work at the black clubs. And
I was I remember, I would be so afraid because
I'm a very petite woman. Yes, yes, so of course,
(08:39):
you know, all the images that we see of black
clubs are big butts and just like you know, just
like a lot going on, a lot of money being thrown,
just a lot of wild stuff going on. But I
actually ended up finding a very good club to work in,
and I actually love working there at a black club.
So yeah, the transition was very different because I feel
like with black men, you have to hustle them way more.
(09:00):
I say that, oh yeah, black men will only give
you five dollars if you let them give you five dollars.
White men they'll they'll be generous, but no, you have
That's why I always say I learned my hustle in
the Black Strip Club.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So, yeah, what is the misconcept misconceptions you want to
clear up about being a stripper.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh god, there are so many. Yeah. I think that
people think like just because I'm a stripper that like
I don't like have other things going for myself, or
like you know, like I'm just getting money and I'm
not doing anything with it. Like I'm the I will
tell people all the time. I'm the type of person
I'm gonna get money by any means necessary. It doesn't
matter if it's stripping, it doesn't matter if I gotta
(09:38):
sell cookies, it doesn't matter if I gotta give me
another part time job, like just to make sure my
funds are straight. Like I know so many I know
a stripper that is getting her pH D right now. Okay, So,
like you know, I hate when people think that like
strippers just don't have anything going for themselves.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They're just like what a lot of girls that strip
that put themselves to school?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah exactly, And I think that's what a lot of
people don't see. It's just like I hate that people
think like it's just like, oh, they just have daddy
issues or da da da like, that's like the main
thing that I hate to see people say.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Right, So, like I said earlier about colorism, one of
my favorite quotes from your blog is everyone loves the
futures of a black woman as long as those features
are actually on a black woman. And I always say this, right,
So would that being said, Like you said earlier, I
notice that you're very petite, So how has your size
player factor?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And you're getting getting higher in clubs? Oh god, I
know there's clubs that will literally turn me away because
I'm a petite woman, but.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
You have a situation like that.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, and then I'll walk out on the floor and
see like skin petite women in my size, like literally
black clubs. But then again, it's like you know, I
always say, like, because girls ask me a lot in
the clubs, like how do you feel about working? And
you're a smaller girl, Like, every guy has his own
his own taste, like you know what I mean, every
guy likes something different. So you know, there are days
(11:00):
that like I may get turned away from every customer
that I walk up to and I may only leave
with like one hundred dollars at the end of the night.
There are days I'll be coming there and I dance
with every single customer in there, and I walk away
with five or six hundred dollars in a night, like
you never really know.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So, right, what's the most she ever walked out there,
like on a good night, on.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
A good night, Oh god, I could probably like that's
what I have blown through a lot, Like early on
my sturpy days, I blew through a lot of money. Okay.
So I remember when I first started working at the
black clubs, like it was just booming, like I could,
I was walking out with eight hundred plus every night
that I was working. Yeah, so if you was working
(11:39):
what five days a week less, say, like when I
I had no concept that you were supposed to be
consistent with stripping, I was, you know, I'm going to
work in one night and I'm making what I'm making
a paycheck in two weeks? Like you know what I mean.
So I'm thinking like, oh, I don't even need to
go to work the next night. And then when you
start to slip off, your consistency is like when you
(11:59):
start to mess up with your money, like right, so
then you have.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
To be consistent with it. Yeah, exactly, So you're Brownie
like myself. So what are some challenges that dark skinned
women face in this industry? Because I know you mentioned
are dark skin quota and I'm like, what.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, there are clubs that literally will tell you they
will not hire any more dark skinned women. There's situations
where even like in music videos, like you know with
popular people Egos Little Baby or people like that, you
know that have a lot of strippers in their videos,
or even you saw the Tory Lane situation where girl
what he was lying about, yes, where people will like
(12:35):
try to pick light skinned women to be in this
scene and dark skinned women to be in this scene
and stuff like that, Like that's like the main thing
that like, and people don't even realize it because people
are going with what's popular. People are going with what
pop culture is putting out there that you should want.
So it's like unless we tell people that this is
an issue, it's like they're not even really focusing on them,
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which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And then lastinalit, I know you mentioned a light skin
privilege because she wrote a blog and then I guess
you was like looking on Twitter or something and a
lot of light skinned girls were saying that they don't
see what the PROBLEMI.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is Yeah, it depends on a day.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Like elaborate on that too.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, So I always tell people my mom is Puerto
Ricanan black. She's a lighter skinned woman, and then I
happen to be a darker woman, you know. And we're
actually having a conversation the other day and in my
grandmother she's a darker woman as well, and when me
and my mom were talking to her about just colorism
and stuff like that, and she's telling me the situation
about when she was the first black cheerleader on her team,
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but she was a light skinned woman of course, wow.
And I was just telling her like, yes, you are
a black woman, but sometimes people see you as being
less black, so they'll choose you over a darker skin,
you know, woman with dreads or something like that. And
she was like, well, I just don't see how it's
ever helped me. And I've never like you know, been
able to use my light skin. And you know, I
was telling her, like, we always tell white women not
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to silence the issues of black women. Don't be like,
oh just because you've never faced that doesn't occur. But
we need to hold our own black women in our
own black community community to those same standards. You know,
we can't be quick to call out other people but
not even want to call the issues within our own community, right.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
So yeah, and you also funny because I did an
episode on the title was you're pretty for a dark
skinned girl, because I'm from the South, so I used
to always get that.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, and my guess who was dark skinned?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
She was a brownie, and she was just saying, like,
you know, that's not a compliment, like that's exactly, and
that it is within our own community because it's not.
I mean, other people do it to us as well,
but it comes from us.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I like another thing that I like about your block
and the things that you talk about is the lifestyle
because a lot of people do think that it's all
gliss and glamour exactly. So so let's talk about club owners. Well,
you know, before we do club owners, another question I
want to ask you about the whole bliss and glamor thing,
because I know you said something to the effects of
like how everybody want to like be a part of
(14:56):
the strip of culture. They want to wear the heels,
they want to do all these movies and stuff, but
like they don't want.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
To fully support strippers. Yeah, what do you mean by that?
I mean, it's just as simple as like you see
girls that are walking around talking about like, oh hot girls, summer,
I'm a I'm a hoe, and like you know, they
talk about sugar daddies and like you know, singing city
girls lyrics and stuff like that. But it's like then again,
when I'm saying like, oh I got to I got
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this man to find me out somewhere, you know, last
week or something like that, Oh, she's a hope because
she's a stripper, like you know what I mean. So
you can't really have that double standard when you're sitting
here singing these song lyrics, but then you're calling the
people that are actually living these lives, you're looking down
on them, like you know what I mean. And that's
what's continuing to cause this hore phobia in the world.
Right Well, I interviewed at escort and she said, ho ckery, yeah, exactly, exactly.
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That's a bit of a one to you.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It's like the prot toes look crazy at the n scortes.
The nescorts look down on the strippers.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Exactly what exactly And yeah, and that's what people don't
even realize, even within our own community. There's so much slutshaming.
Like I was watching the twenty twenty special in the
movie Hustlers, and they were talking about that, Yeah, the
girls didn't want to actually have sex with the men,
so they would go online and find, you know, women
on back At the time, back Page was so up
of course back Page and craikxlist that would have sex
(16:16):
with these men. But it's like, I don't like how
people want to look down on the next type of
sex work, you know what I mean, Like that is
not going to help us further ourselves in any type
of way to continue to slut shame others just because
you won't do something. That's how another girl survives, and
that's how she makes sure that she eats and that
her bills are paid.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
So right, how do you feel about the movie Hustlers
or like a Players Club or any movie that depicts
the stripper industry.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
See, It's like it's very tricky, especially right now. Of course,
a lot I feel like there's a lot of mixed
emotions among the sex work community about the movie, about
the movie Hustlers and specific just because of certain things,
because of one lack of representation, I feel like I
haven't yet talked about it yet. Yeah, I've been waiting
to see if I really want to go see the movie.
I think I'm gonna go see it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm only say it too because I want to see
what everybody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, But I was doing some research about the producers
of the movie and one thing that personally I didn't
like was that out of the eleven producers, six of
them were white women, three were white men, and then
Jayla was a producer, and then there was someone named
Benny Medina and he was actually accused of attempted sexual assault,
(17:27):
and I forget the last person. But yeah, I was
very just disappointed with the lack of diversity behind the
scenes because I feel like oftentimes in Hollywood, they want
to produce like of course they have like Lizzo and
Keiky Palmer and constant Constance Wu, so they want to
push diversity on the screen, but it's like, where's the
diversity behind me?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, you know, that's the ones that's making the voices
exactly scripts, you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Know what I mean? Right? And people are very conflicted
about Jack the Stripper as well, consulting for the movie,
and I feel like that Jack, she did attempt to
just try to try to show us in the best
life that she could and really try to tell me,
what was that Jack the stripper? She is a she
is she's a educated. Yeah, she's a dancer, she's well,
(18:15):
she is a white woman. She's a dancer, she is
a comedian, she makes art. You should really check her
out on Instagram. And you know, she was a consultant
for the movie Hustlers, And I think people I have
seen people bashing her on Twitter and saying like she's
just trying to be like the white face of the
stripper community. And I don't necessarily think that's what she's
(18:35):
trying to do, because let's be real, at the end
of the day, if any of us could consult on
a movie, we would like you know, right. And it's like,
you know, I feel like she tried to just highlight
us in the best life that she could. But at
the same time, like you know, one stripper story can't
represent every stripper story. And I don't mean that as
far as race, but I just mean it as far
as general, like, you know, just one white woman and
(18:57):
that's the stripper will go through a different thing. Is
that another white woman as an escort will like, that's
just you know, the realities of it. So yeah, but yeah,
there's a lot of just conflicting things going on. So
I think I really want to go see it and
just try to think for myself and just try to
see what I personally feel about the movie. So they'll
see it this week because I'm going to say yes,
I will. I can text you and like, what do
you think? Yes, you definitely will.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So let's talk about club owners. What are some things
that you noticed that we're unethical against strippers that's being
done by club owners?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Where can I even begin with?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Are there any club owners as women?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I know of two club owners as women. There's a
club in Hano Lulu called Ballerinas. It's owned by a woman.
And then there's a new club opening up in DC
that's owned by a black woman. The one in Hawaii.
I think she, I forget what her racist, but she
has a woman of color. But yeah, those are the
only two clubs that I actually know that are owned
(20:03):
by women. I will say the first club that I
ever worked at, the Gentlemen's Club, our manager was a woman.
So that's what I feel like, really, maybe start to
feel comfortable as a dancer because she really looked out
for us. I will say that women in the strip
club especially it depends, but a lot of times with management,
house moms and things like that, they will try to
look out for you because they have danced before, they
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have the bartainers, they've done something inside the strip club
as a worker, So I feel like that creates an
environment for them to want to look out for us
a little.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Bit more So, what are some things that you know
about the club owners that you felt were a little unethical?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Club owners? They will they will try to take your money.
They will I will say that they will hire they
will have these extremely outrageous high house fees that are
just like high for no reason, like you know, especially
during like during tournaments or anything big that's going on
(21:00):
in the city, a big event. And oftentimes that's why
I don't like to travel to work for big events
like the super Bowl and stuff like that, because by
the time that you pay for your flight and your
hotel and then you get to the club and want
to try to work, they try to like charge you
these like outrageous house fees, like how much girl like
Depending on what it is like, it could be upwards
(21:22):
to five hundred or more dollars. I know there was
a club, yea, yeah, there was one day. Yes, for
one night, there was a club in New York. I
remember that Migos was working at one night, or Migos
was supposed to appear there one night, and they had
their house fees starting at eight hundred dollars. Oh literally, yeah,
please exactly what else? They will? They will try to
(21:44):
find you a lot. Oftentimes club owners will make up
fines for just any little thing, like you don't have
your clothing or you don't have our uniforms in a
in a ziploc bag. That's a thirty dollar fine. You
don't have like you know, like you don't your your
hygiene is bad, that's one hundred dollar fine or something
like that. They will try to find any little thing
to try to find you for it to make them
more money.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And pretty much you're not making no money because you
give me all your money.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Back to them exactly, you know. So it's like but
the thing is, it's like, with these high house feeds,
are you making sure that your girls are earning that money?
Like you know what I mean? You can't just make
sure they're safe. Exactly. You can't just be sitting here
trying to get their money and you're not even providing
a good work environment for them. You're not even making
sure money comes into this club. So you know, it's bullshit. Honestly,
(22:27):
it's bullshit. And a lot of girls are just sick
and tired of it, like, you know, like sick and
tired of it because it's just ridiculous. And the thing
is is a lot of these club owners there are men,
so it's like they don't give a fuck because they're
not you know, they're not getting their boots touched on,
like you know, they're not getting their pussies rubbed on,
so they don't.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Care, right, Like, yeah, I don't know that you said,
is it is mandatory to house moms?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
What is a house mom?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
For those who doesn't know who what a house mom
do with her responsibilities?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So a houseman basically is, well, it doesn't not every
club will have a house mom, but usually you will
have a house mom in a club. A house mom
is just so and that you know, you come in,
she just has all your supplies, like say, if you
want some perfume, you know, whatever you need in the
dressing room, and stuff like that. She just make sure
that the dressing room is just running, you know how
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it is. She walks around the floor, make sure like
no one's doing anything that they're not supposed to, things
of that sort. She collects your she's the one that's
collecting your tip out most or your your tip out,
your house feed stuff with Ben, she's the one that's
usually doing that. So that's about the job of a
house mom basically. And I know you also put DJs
and doorman. Yeah, so the DJ, of course, that's kind
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of self explanatory, depending on the club that you work at,
Like you have the pr music not to play certain music.
But say, if you want to get on stage at
a certain time when somebody with a lot of money
just walked in the door, so you want to get
on stage or try to get their attention, you gotta
tip the DJ and then he's gonna try to get
you on stage or something like that. Say, if you
tip up a waitress or a doorman and somebody just
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walked in with a lot of money, they'll probably point
that person in the direction of you. It's not even
guarantee that that person may even like you, but it's
like you're tipping the DJ, You're tipping all these people
just to make sure that they're going to put you
in the space of some money.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Basically, Wow, let's talk about mental health. How does being
in this being in this lifestyle affect your mental health?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I see it all the time with so many girls
that we just like suffer from burnout, Like you know
what I mean. Like I always say, there's like this
idea in the striper community that you always have to
be hustling, you always have to be working. But it's
like you can't just hustle something off if you're going
through something, take some time off, Like I'm taking a
week off right now because I've just been, you know,
going through a lot, Like it's no problem with it.
(24:35):
But it's like sometimes I feel like because I'm trusting
like you are, especially it can be in any club.
But I felt like when I started to get into
buy clubs, it's like when I started to come into
contact with more hardcore drugs, just seeing them and just
like yeah, like I've literally had someone in the club
hand me crack and cocaine and tell me to sell
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it so he could get me customers. I'm not even joking.
Literal crack. Okay, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
When I was in Miami and some girl was talking
to me and we were just talking, and I was like, yo,
she is rolling, like I knew yeah so she could
even Like I was like, what girl, Like she couldn't
even complete her centenesis.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It is so common, Like ecstasy is a really a
really big thing. Like you know, acid is a really
big thing that's never been it yes, like that, it's
never been my you know. But I think the easiest
thing for people to try to like just mask them
into health with. Of course, it's alcohol, Like you know
what I mean. I even tell people all the time.
I've been dealing with alcohol abuse since I was about
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seventeen years old, which is very young. But I went
to college when I was seventeen. I was just barely
turned seventeen when I went to college, And you know,
I went through a lot of depression when I was
in college, and just drinking and turning up was the
way that I dealt with my emotions because I never
really knew how to deal with it right, and I
never have nobody really talk to you about this exactly.
So then when I was in the strip club. I mean,
(25:58):
I'm underage obviously, but in most of these clubs alcohol
isn't especially depending on where you're working at. When I
was up in New York, New York City, who do
you think is about to check somebody's you know, ID
They don't have time. You have all these people in
the club. The bartender got to get to the next person.
So it's really easy for you to be under age
in the club and just go drive, grab drink, and
get drunk all night long, like you know what I mean.
(26:19):
So that's how I see a lot of girls just
start to max their pain with a lot of these
drugs and alcohol, right, And one of the insecurities because
I can only imagine since you.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Are I mean, I think you're very beautiful, you're nicely
for tea.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I can imagine you like being around.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
The other women with these big ass titties and breast
up ass and stuff, and like, you know, I can
imagine how that.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Make you feel.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, you feel like you have to compete, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And this happened to me like a couple months ago,
earlier this year, Like I was just in such a
terrible space, like mentally, and it was coming from the club,
like just a lot of insecurities. I felt like, well,
if I like you.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Probably wasn't even insecure exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And I always say like strictly helped me build my
confidence a lot. But I was just going through a phase.
I was just like I'm not making as much money
because I don't have a fatter butt, so let me
try to Like I was taking vitamins and stuff seeing
if I could gain weight, Like I was looking at
trying to get butt implants. You know, butt shots are
a big thing. A lot of these celebrities they have
butt shots. Okay, they don't want to tell you, but
they do have butt shots. They have work done, you know, right,
(27:22):
And so like it would just and that was something
that was contributing to just like mental illness and mental
health for me, was just like I would just felt
like it's like now I'm feeling like I don't even
want to go to the club because now it's like
I have to compete with all these girls that have
these better bodies than me. And it literally just made
me just destroy myself in the mirror. So I just
had to take a step back. I deleted all my
(27:43):
social media for a couple of months. Like you know,
I just like really just I took a break from
the club. I just really had to get my head
together and just be like you were beautiful, You're strong,
and no matter what I always tell girls, if one
person rejects you, one hundred people are gonna love you. Okay,
just always remember that, like it doesn't it doesn't matter
because everyone likes something different, like you know, so you
(28:04):
just really can't. It's it's easy to let it get
to your head, but you really just have to stay
strong and not let it get to you, which is
it is crazy, but yeah, right, no, it's true, it
really is. Yeah. One thing that I saw on the
Instagram post and you didn't speak much about it.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You mentioned that's something traumatic happened to you and it
was a low point in your life.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
M h what was that? Do you not speaking on it? Oh? No,
I can't. Basically, I was sexually assaulted by someone that
was very close to me and it was him and
his friend, you know, and it just like made me
that I feel like that is definitely a situation where
it can make or break someone like you know what
(28:44):
I meant, And I always told her I had a
very close friend that I worked with on my escort
with her, I danced with her and stuff like that,
and I told her I just never wanted that situation
that happened to me because I knew I feel like
I wouldn't be able to handle it, and then it
ended up happening to me, like you know what I mean,
And that was just a situation. It just made like
at the time, I was drinking five out of seven
days a week, Like you know, I was in the
(29:05):
strip club heavy, so I was drinking. I was getting
not even just drinking. I was getting drunk, okay, every
single like five out of seven days a week, maybe
six days out of the week sometime, like you know
what I mean. And so it's just like when I
hit that point, and I just I just hit a
low point in life with that, and it's just like,
for some reason, it just made me think like I'm
(29:25):
I have to get myself together, Like I'm not gonna
let someone sit here and steal my joy. Like I'm
not gonna let a man sit here and steal my joy.
I'm not gonna let alcohol sit here and steal my joy.
I'm not gonna let drugs sit here and steal my joy,
I'm not gonna let insecurity steal it. Like I just
decided at that point, like I'm low, but the only
place that I can go is up if I just
take my Yeah, and you know, I got myself help.
(29:48):
I went to counseling, you know. And I always tell
people like, don't be afraid to go because it's something there. Yeah, exactly,
Like even like on the Sopranos, Like I'll be watching
that and I'd be like, like, that's that's the blueprint
for everybody. Everyone needs someone to talk to sometimes.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So yeah, girl, before I had my interview with you
earlier today, I had my meeting with my therapy cool
black lady. Oh man, she got me together. Like I
was just sitting there just like damn.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Like, yeah, I think about things that you never really
thought about in certain girls seriously.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
So I know that before I didn't include this in
the interview because I wanted to mainly focused on the
stripping aspect. But I know that you said earlier that
you were an escort and you did webpam h When
did you do this? Because I feel and all the reason,
I feel like you're.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Just so young. Yeah, I know people are like so
surprised when I say that. Basically, like camming was something
I just kind of got into just to get like
a little extra you know, extra money. It was never
anything that I was like, you know, like professional at
And I think when, like I say escorting, people don't
understand what the word escorting means. Sometimes escorting doesn't necessarily
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mean like you have to have sex with someone, you know,
Escorting means you were being compensated for giving time to someone.
So I can go into the strip club, I can
meet a man tonight and he says, oh, you want
to go out to lunch tomorrow. That's an escort date
to me, like you know what I mean. So that
can be like any time that if I choose to
have sex with him for money, then that's what's a
(31:20):
part of that time. If I choose that I just
want to go out to dinner with this person, then
that's a part of that escort date, like you know
what I mean. So escorting for me is like something
that's been happening, you know, just throughout my you know,
super career. Some people they do escorting this full time.
Whatever that may entail within their you know, within their
escorting business. So yeah, right, Okay, So I'm like, girl,
(31:41):
you you're not playing no game for real. But listen,
I can't not the hustle. So how are you dealing?
How are you doing not with your mental health? I
feel like I'm just so much better now. I just
look at life and just certain different ways. Like I
always say, like, I just have to find something every
single day that's just gonna make me want to get
(32:03):
through the day. Like you know what I mean, I
have to find the positive and everything. I always go
by the scenario the Yennying, like there's good and the bad,
and bad and the good. You just always got to
find good and bad. That's how I just personally just
live my life and it's what keeps me together. Everyone
has their different things that they can do to keep
themselves upbeat, but that's just what I do.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Another thing that you mentioned, it was about financial freedom.
I mean, girls that strip runs into so much money,
they don't really say that was me. So why do
you emphasize the importance of.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It because stripping is like it's just one job that
you can get caught in a cycle very easily. And
I see it with so many women in the strip
club that are older and they always tell me, save
your money, have a plan. Don't come in here without
a plan, like I have a strip of moms. She
moved to Miami, but yeah, she always told me. Whenever
she would see me, she would say, where's your planet?
(32:56):
Because don't get stuck in here like these other girls do.
You make a lot of money one night and then
you go and bloat on all these handbags, and then
you come back when your broke. So people get stuck
in that cycle. You see so many dancers get stuck
in that cycle. And that's even I was reading up
on hustlers and one of the girls that the movie
is based off of, she said she really got stuck
in that cycle, which is why she kept going back
and scamming these men. And it's really the reality for
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so many people in the sex or community. They just
get stuck in this cycle of Okay, I got a
lot of money and I spent it all, so let
me go get more money. Then I got the money again,
spent it all, let me go back and get it again.
So would you say you're become addicted to it? You do,
like I do, feel like money is an addiction. Like
you know, I've seen it like people can be addicted
to different things. People can be addicted to drugs, alcohol, gambling,
(33:41):
people can be addicted to love, like you know what
I mean. So people can be addicted to making money
and making fast money. It's no different. I always say,
stripping money to me is just like making dope money,
like you know what I mean. Like I feel like
dope boys are addicted to making money too. So yeah, right.
Another thing that you.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Mentioned was black men in this industry, and I couldn't
agree with you more. Yes, you mentioned how black men
are love to control how black women are being portrayed
and love the hyper sexualized black women.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
What did you mean by that? Oh God, where can
I even get into this with the love trying it? Yes,
And I heard a lot of feelings when I call
black men out on this because I happened to do
it a lot. So I just remember growing up watching
be et and you know all, yes, all you would
see on TV. Of course, the the Nelly Tip Drill video.
(34:36):
I remember that growing up. You see just women being
portrayed by men as as they're showing their asses, you
know what I mean, They're showing stripper you know, of course,
strip club Coach in early two thousands or something that
was very big, especially merging with rap music. So these
men are portraying women as, oh they're strippers, they got
(34:57):
their asset out there, this, that, and the third. But
then it's like it's not showing, oh, well, how does
this woman benefit from this. It's only showing how the
man benefits from it, for you know what I mean.
So it's like, now we're coming into an era of
wrap where we have people like the City Girls, Megan,
thee Stallion, people like that, and these women are telling
telling men, well, this is how I benefit from it.
(35:18):
Not that we haven't had women that have done this before,
such as like Treeting or somebody like that. They have
done that, but I feel like now because it's coming
down to a younger generation. Of course, social media it
just makes you so like you can access anything through
the internet these days, like you know what, I'm sure.
So it's like now women are telling men, well, this
is how I'm benefiting from it, you know what I mean,
(35:38):
Like you know, I don't really need you, I just
want you for your dick, like you know what I mean.
So that and now men are offended by it. But
for so long. Y'all were telling us, well, I'm only
I only want you for some pussy, so's yeah, what's
the double standard there? Like? You know right right?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
And I know you thought you call up a video
with snow Dog and he was talking about how women
don't need to be having as.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yes, but stripped a snoop Dog was the main one
that was to drop it like it was hot. So right,
So exactly what are some life lessons you learn from stripping?
Of course, to save your money? I feel like to
set boundaries with people, like, no matter what what area
(36:21):
of your life that it is, no matter if it's
stripping your personal life or whatever. If you don't want
someone to do something, if someone makes you uncomfortable by
doing something, say it, you know what I mean, don't
be afraid to say it. Don't let anyone in this
world to get advantage of you because people will try you. Okay,
you can be as nice as you want, but people
will always try you. So definitely to set boundaries with everyone.
(36:42):
You know, I've definitely learned to just be confident in yourself.
I've learned to, you know, just try to help. I
feel like I always want to help other women out
now because I feel like men you will look at
men in a completely different life as a stripper or
as a sex worker, just in general, because men will
(37:03):
really just try to finish you. They will try to
take advantage of you. And even though these tricks come
in to the strip club, they see you as they
some of them really still see you as being nothing
but a stripper. They see you as being less than
a regular woman, like you know what I mean, So
good exactly, And so that's why I feel like a
lot of strippers we do try to come together and
just bond together because we do have this special bond
(37:26):
because so much of the world seeks as being less
than or you know, being less than just the average woman.
We always feel they need to just try to just
be together and just lift each other and things like that.
So it's really taught me self love for every woman
in this world, even the women that look down on
me and tell me that I don't deserve a man
because I shake my asks for money. I don't care,
you know, I mean, I'm never gonna hate on the
(37:46):
next woman's hustle. You know, whatever you want to say
about me, that's cool, you know what I mean? I
really don't get a fuck with you, but you know,
I'm not going to deny your rights as a woman.
So a lot of.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
People, look, a lot of people judge people because of
what they fear.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I feel like I don't want to say that like
oh that they these women just want to be me
or something like that, because not every woman wants to
be a stripper, and stripping really isn't it for everyone
and stuff like that. But I do feel like it
comes from like like just Indie or something like that.
I have seen a lot of that, like Rose just
hate because they think like, oh, like you know, she
(38:22):
makes a lot of money or something like that. Girl,
they're nice that you will go in the strip club
and walk out with thirty dollars. Okay, it just me
like that, so you know, Yeah, it's crazy though. And
last and at least, what's next after stripping? After stripping?
And how long do you see yourself doing this? Well,
I don't know. Like I always say, it attends like
(38:44):
you know, I said until I was twenty one, but
that's gonna be very close. Yeah, I'll be twenty one
before I even know it. I would say, I don't
really want to strip past the time that I am thirty,
I feel like I will be able to save enough
money by that time, you know, to just be where
I you know, what I want to do. I actually
when I was in school, I was majoring an entrepreneurship.
(39:06):
I've always wanted to be a business owner.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I always I am entrepreneurship.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, I always knew I didn't want to work for nobody,
Like you know, I hate it where I instill. I
don't like me too, me to girl. And a lot
of the thing that a lot of people don't know
about me is I'm really interested in makeup. I've been
doing makeup since I was about like thirteen or fourteen,
So that's really what I want to go into. But
I don't feel that I have to like lose myself
or lose like my advocacy that I want to do
(39:34):
as a stripper just to like go into a different world,
like you know, raising awareness for sex, the sexual community
and stuff like that. That's something that I will always
be passionate about. It's something that I'm always going to
do because if nobody else is going to say, I'm
going to say it, like you know what I mean,
I'm gonna I'm going to shape the table if nothing else.
So I never want to lose that part of me
(39:54):
just because I want to go and do something else.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
So yeah, right, I mean it's a part of you.
I don't think you would ever lose it. I think
the main reason why because you are so young. Yeah,
and I know all of my guests are anonymous, but
if anybody want to read her blog, please make sure
to email me.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
At hello at the Professional Homegirl dot com.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
But your blog is really good, Like you're really right.
So it's just like stripping is a part of you.
It's what you do, but it's not who you are.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, exactly, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
So, But I think this was a great interview. I
will be checking up on you, and then you have
to go see Houseless this week.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yes I will.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
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This episode contains sensitive topics. Listening discretion is advice, hellove
professional homegirls, it'sha girl, ebenet here, and I hope all
is cute now. In this week's rewind episode, I sat
(00:23):
down with a shripper who shared her story from how
she got started in the industry to her thoughts on
stripper appropriation and the effects of colorism. She also opened
up about how men overly hyper sexualized her once they
found out that she.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Was a shripper.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Y'all, I don't know if y'all knew this about me,
but back in the day, I used to love going
to strip clubs. I'm talking about, like, you could not
keep my little ass out of a strip club. I mean,
you had the vibes, you had the niggas with the money.
But most importantly, y'all, shrip clubs had the best food,
like as I can't remember the club and queens. I
(01:02):
don't know why, I'm thinking sus but I don't know
if that's the name of the one in Queen's. But y'all,
they had the best hot wings. I'm talking about, like,
oh my god, best hot wings. So if you knew me,
you know I was really excited to chat with this
week's episode. Also, this episode was recorded in twenty nineteen,
so I'm definitely gonna do like a follow up series
(01:25):
and reach out to some of our favorite professional homegirls
from back in the day and just see where they at,
what they doing, you know what I'm saying, Do they
leave that nigga? You know, I know things of that nature.
So if you have a favorite guest from back in
the day when we first started with the Professional Homegirl Podcast,
please make sure to email me at hello at thephgpodcast
dot com so we can see what they've been up to. Okay,
(01:47):
so let's get into it, y'all, because I am a
shripper stars now.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
So how you feeling. I'm super excited to have you
on the show.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Thank you so much. I'm really excited to be here.
I'm a little nervous, but I know everybody's nervous. Why
you're nervous, I don't know, because it's like no one's
ever asked me to actually like talk about like you know,
the stuff that I talk about. But I'm so glad
to like I actually do it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So I'm so happy that you're a part of this
week's episode. So this week episode. I'm an interviewing a
shripper and I have a list of questions, but I
want to share the story. So I went to Miami
a couple of weeks ago just to like get away
and like to relax and stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And when I found.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Your page, you talked about colorism, which we're gonna talk
about later, but you talked about colorism within the shrip
club industry. And I know because you're a brownie, so
I know that colorism is something that we have to
constantly deal with, but I never thought about it being
in the shrip club. So me and my boyfriend went
to the strip club in Miami, and literally when I
(02:46):
read your article about colorism, I didn't see no brownies
in the shrip club. Yeah, And I was like, I
was turned off, and I was like, we gotta go.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah. It's sadly, especially in like bigger cities like that,
I think that you tend to see it more because
especially in urban clubs, they feel they need to keep
like this image that they have, so especially with places
like say like G five or something like that. That's
the love that it's kind of somewhat new compared to
you know, like a King of diamonds or something like that.
So they want to upkeep this image of having these
(03:18):
desirable girls. So then they'll only really kind of like hire.
They'll have a couple of brown skin girls, a couple
of dark skin girls, just to be like, oh well,
we don't discriminate. But then it's like the the main
girls that you see will be light skinned girls. Girl,
but they're gonna talk about it later. But I was
just like I thought about you, and I.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Was just like, I don't see nobody that looks like
me in here, so I can't support this, like I.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Gotta rely exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
But my first question is, so how long have you
been a stripper?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I have been a stripper about a year and three
months now. And how old were you when you first started?
I was eighteen years old.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So how do you feel about from when you first
started to where you at now?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh? God, I have learned so much. And you know,
the crazy thing is is the first time I ever
auditioned at a strip club, I came into a situation
where I faced colorism and I didn't even like know it,
like you know what I mean, because I was like,
so like, you know, I knew nothing. I had never
even been to a strip club before I ever auditioned
that one. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So like I knew nothing about this life and just
compared to how I started and where I'm at now,
I've learned so much, not only about stripping, but it's
taught me so much about myself as well. I've had
to have create boundaries and whatnot. And you know, just
like it's like I always said, like the strip club
very much helped me find myself at a young age.
And it's crazy that I say that to people. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So yeah, yeah, So what were some of the events
that led you to the decision that dancing was the
answer to your solution at that time?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh? God, So basically I had I was in college,
I moved out of my mom's house. I was working
at Chick fil A at the time. Oh good, I
love it. I love them too, But then I don't
pay enough, so right, so you know, my little five
hundred dollar checks they would like it would not be
enough for me to try to be in school and
(05:11):
pay my rent and just try to survive. So basically,
I had a friend she had moved to where I
met from Dallas, Texas, and she was working at a
club out there, but she was a waitress. So when
she came out here, she was like, I'm gonna like
try to look for waitress jobs. But see IU here,
like there's not a lot of waitress jobs, like mainly
all the clubs they're just strippers. And so finally she
(05:35):
was like, well, I'm just gonna have to dance and
make some money. And she was like you want to
do it with me? And I was like I already
needed some money. I was like twenty dollars short for
my rent. I did not have no money. So I
was like I don't have no choice, Like it's either
shake ass or get evicted. So you know, so yeah,
that's basically how I started dancing. I started dancing quit
my job at check fil a.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And it was his sister was asking your folks for help,
not an option, because I know, like when I on
my back.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Was like literally in the wall. I have a lot
of options. That family was not one of them. So
that's why I'm asking. Yeah. So for me, it's like
I come from a single parent home, Like you know
what I mean, my mom she has her own bills,
like you know, she she's living paycheck to paycheck, and
even I talk about that even with my blog about
just like financial literacy and stuff like that. No one
had ever taught me anything about money. So not only
(06:22):
was I not making a lot of money, but then
it's like I never knew how to save thing, like
you know what I mean, because I saw that growing up.
So the only person, the only person I really ever
had like to fall back on, was my grandma a
little bit. But you know, my Grandma's seventy two years old,
like you know what I mean. She she could do yeah, exactly.
So it's like I really didn't have anyone any plan
to fall back on, so I had no choice but
(06:43):
to start stripping.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
So how was your first night? Cause I if I
can pretty assume that she was a little nervous, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So the crazy thing is is that when I Okay,
so when I started dancing, I started dancing at gentleman clubs,
so that's a very different vibe from of course urban clubs.
And I remember the club that I danced at, they
didn't do like lap dances. They only did like vip dances,
vip rooms, champagne rooms. So I remember the first time
I had to go and sell a shamp like. No,
(07:14):
it was in a champagne room. It was a VIP dance.
It was like two songs for sixty dollars or something
like that, and I remember I was just like so
scared to like just like go in there and like
be with this guy. But mind you that, like all
the managers and stuff, they knew was my first time dancing,
so you know, they were like really watching out for me.
And that's what I really liked to buy that club
as well. But I just remember just being nervous to
(07:36):
just be I was never nervous to get on stage. Yeah,
that's the craziest part. Most people are nervous to dance,
but I was just never nervous to dance for some reason,
to be naked in front of people. But the whole
being alone in a VIP room, that's.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, because you don't know what niggas be about to
do it exactly. But how was that transition from the
gentlemen's club to urban trip club.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So basically what happened was that, you know, I got
myself into some trouble in school, got arrested, so I
had to, you know, move back to my hometown. It's
a long story, but yeah, so I got kicked out
of my apartment, so I had to come back to
my hometown. But where I live at urban clubs are
(08:18):
there's a couple more urban clubs, and it's actually really
harder for not only black women, but brown skinned women
too to get hired at these white clubs. So I
really knew that I really didn't have a choice but
to work at the work at the black clubs. And
I was I remember, I would be so afraid because
I'm a very petite woman. Yes, yes, so of course,
(08:39):
you know, all the images that we see of black
clubs are big butts and just like you know, just
like a lot going on, a lot of money being thrown,
just a lot of wild stuff going on. But I
actually ended up finding a very good club to work in,
and I actually love working there at a black club.
So yeah, the transition was very different because I feel
like with black men, you have to hustle them way more.
(09:00):
I say that, oh yeah, black men will only give
you five dollars if you let them give you five dollars.
White men they'll they'll be generous, but no, you have
That's why I always say I learned my hustle in
the Black Strip Club.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So, yeah, what is the misconcept misconceptions you want to
clear up about being a stripper.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh god, there are so many. Yeah. I think that
people think like just because I'm a stripper that like
I don't like have other things going for myself, or
like you know, like I'm just getting money and I'm
not doing anything with it. Like I'm the I will
tell people all the time. I'm the type of person
I'm gonna get money by any means necessary. It doesn't
matter if it's stripping, it doesn't matter if I gotta
(09:38):
sell cookies, it doesn't matter if I gotta give me
another part time job, like just to make sure my
funds are straight. Like I know so many I know
a stripper that is getting her pH D right now. Okay, So,
like you know, I hate when people think that like
strippers just don't have anything going for themselves.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
They're just like what a lot of girls that strip
that put themselves to school?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah exactly, And I think that's what a lot of
people don't see. It's just like I hate that people
think like it's just like, oh, they just have daddy
issues or da da da like, that's like the main
thing that I hate to see people say.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Right, So, like I said earlier about colorism, one of
my favorite quotes from your blog is everyone loves the
futures of a black woman as long as those features
are actually on a black woman. And I always say this, right,
So would that being said, Like you said earlier, I
notice that you're very petite, So how has your size
player factor?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And you're getting getting higher in clubs? Oh god, I
know there's clubs that will literally turn me away because
I'm a petite woman, but.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
You have a situation like that.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, and then I'll walk out on the floor and
see like skin petite women in my size, like literally
black clubs. But then again, it's like you know, I
always say, like, because girls ask me a lot in
the clubs, like how do you feel about working? And
you're a smaller girl, Like, every guy has his own
his own taste, like you know what I mean, every
guy likes something different. So you know, there are days
(11:00):
that like I may get turned away from every customer
that I walk up to and I may only leave
with like one hundred dollars at the end of the night.
There are days I'll be coming there and I dance
with every single customer in there, and I walk away
with five or six hundred dollars in a night, like
you never really know.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
So, right, what's the most she ever walked out there,
like on a good night, on.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
A good night, Oh god, I could probably like that's
what I have blown through a lot, Like early on
my sturpy days, I blew through a lot of money. Okay.
So I remember when I first started working at the
black clubs, like it was just booming, like I could,
I was walking out with eight hundred plus every night
that I was working. Yeah, so if you was working
(11:39):
what five days a week less, say, like when I
I had no concept that you were supposed to be
consistent with stripping, I was, you know, I'm going to
work in one night and I'm making what I'm making
a paycheck in two weeks? Like you know what I mean.
So I'm thinking like, oh, I don't even need to
go to work the next night. And then when you
start to slip off, your consistency is like when you
(11:59):
start to mess up with your money, like right, so
then you have.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
To be consistent with it. Yeah, exactly, So you're Brownie
like myself. So what are some challenges that dark skinned
women face in this industry? Because I know you mentioned
are dark skin quota and I'm like, what.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, there are clubs that literally will tell you they
will not hire any more dark skinned women. There's situations
where even like in music videos, like you know with
popular people Egos Little Baby or people like that, you
know that have a lot of strippers in their videos,
or even you saw the Tory Lane situation where girl
what he was lying about, yes, where people will like
(12:35):
try to pick light skinned women to be in this
scene and dark skinned women to be in this scene
and stuff like that, Like that's like the main thing
that like, and people don't even realize it because people
are going with what's popular. People are going with what
pop culture is putting out there that you should want.
So it's like unless we tell people that this is
an issue, it's like they're not even really focusing on them,
(12:56):
which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
And then lastinalit, I know you mentioned a light skin
privilege because she wrote a blog and then I guess
you was like looking on Twitter or something and a
lot of light skinned girls were saying that they don't
see what the PROBLEMI.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is Yeah, it depends on a day.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Like elaborate on that too.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, So I always tell people my mom is Puerto
Ricanan black. She's a lighter skinned woman, and then I
happen to be a darker woman, you know. And we're
actually having a conversation the other day and in my
grandmother she's a darker woman as well, and when me
and my mom were talking to her about just colorism
and stuff like that, and she's telling me the situation
about when she was the first black cheerleader on her team,
(13:34):
but she was a light skinned woman of course, wow.
And I was just telling her like, yes, you are
a black woman, but sometimes people see you as being
less black, so they'll choose you over a darker skin,
you know, woman with dreads or something like that. And
she was like, well, I just don't see how it's
ever helped me. And I've never like you know, been
able to use my light skin. And you know, I
was telling her, like, we always tell white women not
(13:55):
to silence the issues of black women. Don't be like,
oh just because you've never faced that doesn't occur. But
we need to hold our own black women in our
own black community community to those same standards. You know,
we can't be quick to call out other people but
not even want to call the issues within our own community, right.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
So yeah, and you also funny because I did an
episode on the title was you're pretty for a dark
skinned girl, because I'm from the South, so I used
to always get that.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, and my guess who was dark skinned?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
She was a brownie, and she was just saying, like,
you know, that's not a compliment, like that's exactly, and
that it is within our own community because it's not.
I mean, other people do it to us as well,
but it comes from us.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I like another thing that I like about your block
and the things that you talk about is the lifestyle
because a lot of people do think that it's all
gliss and glamour exactly. So so let's talk about club owners. Well,
you know, before we do club owners, another question I
want to ask you about the whole bliss and glamor thing,
because I know you said something to the effects of
like how everybody want to like be a part of
(14:56):
the strip of culture. They want to wear the heels,
they want to do all these movies and stuff, but
like they don't want.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
To fully support strippers. Yeah, what do you mean by that?
I mean, it's just as simple as like you see
girls that are walking around talking about like, oh hot girls, summer,
I'm a I'm a hoe, and like you know, they
talk about sugar daddies and like you know, singing city
girls lyrics and stuff like that. But it's like then again,
when I'm saying like, oh I got to I got
(15:23):
this man to find me out somewhere, you know, last
week or something like that, Oh, she's a hope because
she's a stripper, like you know what I mean. So
you can't really have that double standard when you're sitting
here singing these song lyrics, but then you're calling the
people that are actually living these lives, you're looking down
on them, like you know what I mean. And that's
what's continuing to cause this hore phobia in the world.
Right Well, I interviewed at escort and she said, ho ckery, yeah, exactly, exactly.
(15:46):
That's a bit of a one to you.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It's like the prot toes look crazy at the n scortes.
The nescorts look down on the strippers.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Exactly what exactly And yeah, and that's what people don't
even realize, even within our own community. There's so much slutshaming.
Like I was watching the twenty twenty special in the
movie Hustlers, and they were talking about that, Yeah, the
girls didn't want to actually have sex with the men,
so they would go online and find, you know, women
on back At the time, back Page was so up
of course back Page and craikxlist that would have sex
(16:16):
with these men. But it's like, I don't like how
people want to look down on the next type of
sex work, you know what I mean, Like that is
not going to help us further ourselves in any type
of way to continue to slut shame others just because
you won't do something. That's how another girl survives, and
that's how she makes sure that she eats and that
her bills are paid.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
So right, how do you feel about the movie Hustlers
or like a Players Club or any movie that depicts
the stripper industry.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
See, It's like it's very tricky, especially right now. Of course,
a lot I feel like there's a lot of mixed
emotions among the sex work community about the movie, about
the movie Hustlers and specific just because of certain things,
because of one lack of representation, I feel like I
haven't yet talked about it yet. Yeah, I've been waiting
to see if I really want to go see the movie.
I think I'm gonna go see it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm only say it too because I want to see
what everybody's talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, But I was doing some research about the producers
of the movie and one thing that personally I didn't
like was that out of the eleven producers, six of
them were white women, three were white men, and then
Jayla was a producer, and then there was someone named
Benny Medina and he was actually accused of attempted sexual assault,
(17:27):
and I forget the last person. But yeah, I was
very just disappointed with the lack of diversity behind the
scenes because I feel like oftentimes in Hollywood, they want
to produce like of course they have like Lizzo and
Keiky Palmer and constant Constance Wu, so they want to
push diversity on the screen, but it's like, where's the
diversity behind me?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, you know, that's the ones that's making the voices
exactly scripts, you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Know what I mean? Right? And people are very conflicted
about Jack the Stripper as well, consulting for the movie,
and I feel like that Jack, she did attempt to
just try to try to show us in the best
life that she could and really try to tell me,
what was that Jack the stripper? She is a she
is she's a educated. Yeah, she's a dancer, she's well,
(18:15):
she is a white woman. She's a dancer, she is
a comedian, she makes art. You should really check her
out on Instagram. And you know, she was a consultant
for the movie Hustlers, And I think people I have
seen people bashing her on Twitter and saying like she's
just trying to be like the white face of the
stripper community. And I don't necessarily think that's what she's
(18:35):
trying to do, because let's be real, at the end
of the day, if any of us could consult on
a movie, we would like you know, right. And it's like,
you know, I feel like she tried to just highlight
us in the best life that she could. But at
the same time, like you know, one stripper story can't
represent every stripper story. And I don't mean that as
far as race, but I just mean it as far
as general, like, you know, just one white woman and
(18:57):
that's the stripper will go through a different thing. Is
that another white woman as an escort will like, that's
just you know, the realities of it. So yeah, but yeah,
there's a lot of just conflicting things going on. So
I think I really want to go see it and
just try to think for myself and just try to
see what I personally feel about the movie. So they'll
see it this week because I'm going to say yes,
I will. I can text you and like, what do
you think? Yes, you definitely will.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So let's talk about club owners. What are some things
that you noticed that we're unethical against strippers that's being
done by club owners?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Where can I even begin with?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Are there any club owners as women?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I know of two club owners as women. There's a
club in Hano Lulu called Ballerinas. It's owned by a woman.
And then there's a new club opening up in DC
that's owned by a black woman. The one in Hawaii.
I think she, I forget what her racist, but she
has a woman of color. But yeah, those are the
only two clubs that I actually know that are owned
(20:03):
by women. I will say the first club that I
ever worked at, the Gentlemen's Club, our manager was a woman.
So that's what I feel like, really, maybe start to
feel comfortable as a dancer because she really looked out
for us. I will say that women in the strip
club especially it depends, but a lot of times with management,
house moms and things like that, they will try to
look out for you because they have danced before, they
(20:24):
have the bartainers, they've done something inside the strip club
as a worker, So I feel like that creates an
environment for them to want to look out for us
a little.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Bit more So, what are some things that you know
about the club owners that you felt were a little unethical?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Club owners? They will they will try to take your money.
They will I will say that they will hire they
will have these extremely outrageous high house fees that are
just like high for no reason, like you know, especially
during like during tournaments or anything big that's going on
(21:00):
in the city, a big event. And oftentimes that's why
I don't like to travel to work for big events
like the super Bowl and stuff like that, because by
the time that you pay for your flight and your
hotel and then you get to the club and want
to try to work, they try to like charge you
these like outrageous house fees, like how much girl like
Depending on what it is like, it could be upwards
(21:22):
to five hundred or more dollars. I know there was
a club, yea, yeah, there was one day. Yes, for
one night, there was a club in New York. I
remember that Migos was working at one night, or Migos
was supposed to appear there one night, and they had
their house fees starting at eight hundred dollars. Oh literally, yeah,
please exactly what else? They will? They will try to
(21:44):
find you a lot. Oftentimes club owners will make up
fines for just any little thing, like you don't have
your clothing or you don't have our uniforms in a
in a ziploc bag. That's a thirty dollar fine. You
don't have like you know, like you don't your your
hygiene is bad, that's one hundred dollar fine or something
like that. They will try to find any little thing
to try to find you for it to make them
more money.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And pretty much you're not making no money because you
give me all your money.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Back to them exactly, you know. So it's like but
the thing is, it's like, with these high house feeds,
are you making sure that your girls are earning that money?
Like you know what I mean? You can't just make
sure they're safe. Exactly. You can't just be sitting here
trying to get their money and you're not even providing
a good work environment for them. You're not even making
sure money comes into this club. So you know, it's bullshit. Honestly,
(22:27):
it's bullshit. And a lot of girls are just sick
and tired of it, like, you know, like sick and
tired of it because it's just ridiculous. And the thing
is is a lot of these club owners there are men,
so it's like they don't give a fuck because they're
not you know, they're not getting their boots touched on,
like you know, they're not getting their pussies rubbed on,
so they don't.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Care, right, Like, yeah, I don't know that you said,
is it is mandatory to house moms?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
What is a house mom?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
For those who doesn't know who what a house mom
do with her responsibilities?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So a houseman basically is, well, it doesn't not every
club will have a house mom, but usually you will
have a house mom in a club. A house mom
is just so and that you know, you come in,
she just has all your supplies, like say, if you
want some perfume, you know, whatever you need in the
dressing room, and stuff like that. She just make sure
that the dressing room is just running, you know how
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it is. She walks around the floor, make sure like
no one's doing anything that they're not supposed to, things
of that sort. She collects your she's the one that's
collecting your tip out most or your your tip out,
your house feed stuff with Ben, she's the one that's
usually doing that. So that's about the job of a
house mom basically. And I know you also put DJs
and doorman. Yeah, so the DJ, of course, that's kind
(23:33):
of self explanatory, depending on the club that you work at,
Like you have the pr music not to play certain music.
But say, if you want to get on stage at
a certain time when somebody with a lot of money
just walked in the door, so you want to get
on stage or try to get their attention, you gotta
tip the DJ and then he's gonna try to get
you on stage or something like that. Say, if you
tip up a waitress or a doorman and somebody just
(23:54):
walked in with a lot of money, they'll probably point
that person in the direction of you. It's not even
guarantee that that person may even like you, but it's
like you're tipping the DJ, You're tipping all these people
just to make sure that they're going to put you
in the space of some money.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Basically, Wow, let's talk about mental health. How does being
in this being in this lifestyle affect your mental health?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I see it all the time with so many girls
that we just like suffer from burnout, Like you know
what I mean. Like I always say, there's like this
idea in the striper community that you always have to
be hustling, you always have to be working. But it's
like you can't just hustle something off if you're going
through something, take some time off, Like I'm taking a
week off right now because I've just been, you know,
going through a lot, Like it's no problem with it.
(24:35):
But it's like sometimes I feel like because I'm trusting
like you are, especially it can be in any club.
But I felt like when I started to get into
buy clubs, it's like when I started to come into
contact with more hardcore drugs, just seeing them and just
like yeah, like I've literally had someone in the club
hand me crack and cocaine and tell me to sell
(24:55):
it so he could get me customers. I'm not even joking.
Literal crack. Okay, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
When I was in Miami and some girl was talking
to me and we were just talking, and I was like, yo,
she is rolling, like I knew yeah so she could
even Like I was like, what girl, Like she couldn't
even complete her centenesis.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It is so common, Like ecstasy is a really a
really big thing. Like you know, acid is a really
big thing that's never been it yes, like that, it's
never been my you know. But I think the easiest
thing for people to try to like just mask them
into health with. Of course, it's alcohol, Like you know
what I mean. I even tell people all the time.
I've been dealing with alcohol abuse since I was about
(25:36):
seventeen years old, which is very young. But I went
to college when I was seventeen. I was just barely
turned seventeen when I went to college, And you know,
I went through a lot of depression when I was
in college, and just drinking and turning up was the
way that I dealt with my emotions because I never
really knew how to deal with it right, and I
never have nobody really talk to you about this exactly.
So then when I was in the strip club. I mean,
(25:58):
I'm underage obviously, but in most of these clubs alcohol
isn't especially depending on where you're working at. When I
was up in New York, New York City, who do
you think is about to check somebody's you know, ID
They don't have time. You have all these people in
the club. The bartender got to get to the next person.
So it's really easy for you to be under age
in the club and just go drive, grab drink, and
get drunk all night long, like you know what I mean.
(26:19):
So that's how I see a lot of girls just
start to max their pain with a lot of these
drugs and alcohol, right, And one of the insecurities because
I can only imagine since you.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Are I mean, I think you're very beautiful, you're nicely
for tea.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I can imagine you like being around.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
The other women with these big ass titties and breast
up ass and stuff, and like, you know, I can
imagine how that.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Make you feel.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, you feel like you have to compete, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And this happened to me like a couple months ago,
earlier this year, Like I was just in such a
terrible space, like mentally, and it was coming from the club,
like just a lot of insecurities. I felt like, well,
if I like you.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Probably wasn't even insecure exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
And I always say like strictly helped me build my
confidence a lot. But I was just going through a phase.
I was just like I'm not making as much money
because I don't have a fatter butt, so let me
try to Like I was taking vitamins and stuff seeing
if I could gain weight, Like I was looking at
trying to get butt implants. You know, butt shots are
a big thing. A lot of these celebrities they have
butt shots. Okay, they don't want to tell you, but
they do have butt shots. They have work done, you know, right,
(27:22):
And so like it would just and that was something
that was contributing to just like mental illness and mental
health for me, was just like I would just felt
like it's like now I'm feeling like I don't even
want to go to the club because now it's like
I have to compete with all these girls that have
these better bodies than me. And it literally just made
me just destroy myself in the mirror. So I just
had to take a step back. I deleted all my
(27:43):
social media for a couple of months. Like you know,
I just like really just I took a break from
the club. I just really had to get my head
together and just be like you were beautiful, You're strong,
and no matter what I always tell girls, if one
person rejects you, one hundred people are gonna love you. Okay,
just always remember that, like it doesn't it doesn't matter
because everyone likes something different, like you know, so you
(28:04):
just really can't. It's it's easy to let it get
to your head, but you really just have to stay
strong and not let it get to you, which is
it is crazy, but yeah, right, no, it's true, it
really is. Yeah. One thing that I saw on the
Instagram post and you didn't speak much about it.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You mentioned that's something traumatic happened to you and it
was a low point in your life.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
M h what was that? Do you not speaking on it? Oh? No,
I can't. Basically, I was sexually assaulted by someone that
was very close to me and it was him and
his friend, you know, and it just like made me
that I feel like that is definitely a situation where
it can make or break someone like you know what
(28:44):
I meant, And I always told her I had a
very close friend that I worked with on my escort
with her, I danced with her and stuff like that,
and I told her I just never wanted that situation
that happened to me because I knew I feel like
I wouldn't be able to handle it, and then it
ended up happening to me, like you know what I mean,
And that was just a situation. It just made like
at the time, I was drinking five out of seven
days a week, Like you know, I was in the
(29:05):
strip club heavy, so I was drinking. I was getting
not even just drinking. I was getting drunk, okay, every
single like five out of seven days a week, maybe
six days out of the week sometime, like you know
what I mean. And so it's just like when I
hit that point, and I just I just hit a
low point in life with that, and it's just like,
for some reason, it just made me think like I'm
(29:25):
I have to get myself together, Like I'm not gonna
let someone sit here and steal my joy. Like I'm
not gonna let a man sit here and steal my joy.
I'm not gonna let alcohol sit here and steal my joy.
I'm not gonna let drugs sit here and steal my joy,
I'm not gonna let insecurity steal it. Like I just
decided at that point, like I'm low, but the only
place that I can go is up if I just
take my Yeah, and you know, I got myself help.
(29:48):
I went to counseling, you know. And I always tell
people like, don't be afraid to go because it's something there. Yeah, exactly,
Like even like on the Sopranos, Like I'll be watching
that and I'd be like, like, that's that's the blueprint
for everybody. Everyone needs someone to talk to sometimes.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So yeah, girl, before I had my interview with you
earlier today, I had my meeting with my therapy cool
black lady. Oh man, she got me together. Like I
was just sitting there just like damn.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Like, yeah, I think about things that you never really
thought about in certain girls seriously.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
So I know that before I didn't include this in
the interview because I wanted to mainly focused on the
stripping aspect. But I know that you said earlier that
you were an escort and you did webpam h When
did you do this? Because I feel and all the reason,
I feel like you're.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Just so young. Yeah, I know people are like so
surprised when I say that. Basically, like camming was something
I just kind of got into just to get like
a little extra you know, extra money. It was never
anything that I was like, you know, like professional at
And I think when, like I say escorting, people don't
understand what the word escorting means. Sometimes escorting doesn't necessarily
(30:59):
mean like you have to have sex with someone, you know,
Escorting means you were being compensated for giving time to someone.
So I can go into the strip club, I can
meet a man tonight and he says, oh, you want
to go out to lunch tomorrow. That's an escort date
to me, like you know what I mean. So that
can be like any time that if I choose to
have sex with him for money, then that's what's a
(31:20):
part of that time. If I choose that I just
want to go out to dinner with this person, then
that's a part of that escort date, like you know
what I mean. So escorting for me is like something
that's been happening, you know, just throughout my you know,
super career. Some people they do escorting this full time.
Whatever that may entail within their you know, within their
escorting business. So yeah, right, Okay, So I'm like, girl,
(31:41):
you you're not playing no game for real. But listen,
I can't not the hustle. So how are you dealing?
How are you doing not with your mental health? I
feel like I'm just so much better now. I just
look at life and just certain different ways. Like I
always say, like, I just have to find something every
single day that's just gonna make me want to get
(32:03):
through the day. Like you know what I mean, I
have to find the positive and everything. I always go
by the scenario the Yennying, like there's good and the bad,
and bad and the good. You just always got to
find good and bad. That's how I just personally just
live my life and it's what keeps me together. Everyone
has their different things that they can do to keep
themselves upbeat, but that's just what I do.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Another thing that you mentioned, it was about financial freedom.
I mean, girls that strip runs into so much money,
they don't really say that was me. So why do
you emphasize the importance of.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It because stripping is like it's just one job that
you can get caught in a cycle very easily. And
I see it with so many women in the strip
club that are older and they always tell me, save
your money, have a plan. Don't come in here without
a plan, like I have a strip of moms. She
moved to Miami, but yeah, she always told me. Whenever
she would see me, she would say, where's your planet?
(32:56):
Because don't get stuck in here like these other girls do.
You make a lot of money one night and then
you go and bloat on all these handbags, and then
you come back when your broke. So people get stuck
in that cycle. You see so many dancers get stuck
in that cycle. And that's even I was reading up
on hustlers and one of the girls that the movie
is based off of, she said she really got stuck
in that cycle, which is why she kept going back
and scamming these men. And it's really the reality for
(33:18):
so many people in the sex or community. They just
get stuck in this cycle of Okay, I got a
lot of money and I spent it all, so let
me go get more money. Then I got the money again,
spent it all, let me go back and get it again.
So would you say you're become addicted to it? You do,
like I do, feel like money is an addiction. Like
you know, I've seen it like people can be addicted
to different things. People can be addicted to drugs, alcohol, gambling,
(33:41):
people can be addicted to love, like you know what
I mean. So people can be addicted to making money
and making fast money. It's no different. I always say,
stripping money to me is just like making dope money,
like you know what I mean. Like I feel like
dope boys are addicted to making money too. So yeah, right.
Another thing that you.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Mentioned was black men in this industry, and I couldn't
agree with you more. Yes, you mentioned how black men
are love to control how black women are being portrayed
and love the hyper sexualized black women.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
What did you mean by that? Oh God, where can
I even get into this with the love trying it? Yes,
And I heard a lot of feelings when I call
black men out on this because I happened to do
it a lot. So I just remember growing up watching
be et and you know all, yes, all you would
see on TV. Of course, the the Nelly Tip Drill video.
(34:36):
I remember that growing up. You see just women being
portrayed by men as as they're showing their asses, you
know what I mean, They're showing stripper you know, of course,
strip club Coach in early two thousands or something that
was very big, especially merging with rap music. So these
men are portraying women as, oh they're strippers, they got
(34:57):
their asset out there, this, that, and the third. But
then it's like it's not showing, oh, well, how does
this woman benefit from this. It's only showing how the
man benefits from it, for you know what I mean.
So it's like, now we're coming into an era of
wrap where we have people like the City Girls, Megan,
thee Stallion, people like that, and these women are telling
telling men, well, this is how I benefit from it.
(35:18):
Not that we haven't had women that have done this before,
such as like Treeting or somebody like that. They have
done that, but I feel like now because it's coming
down to a younger generation. Of course, social media it
just makes you so like you can access anything through
the internet these days, like you know what, I'm sure.
So it's like now women are telling men, well, this
is how I'm benefiting from it, you know what I mean,
(35:38):
Like you know, I don't really need you, I just
want you for your dick, like you know what I mean.
So that and now men are offended by it. But
for so long. Y'all were telling us, well, I'm only
I only want you for some pussy, so's yeah, what's
the double standard there? Like? You know right right?
Speaker 3 (35:54):
And I know you thought you call up a video
with snow Dog and he was talking about how women
don't need to be having as.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yes, but stripped a snoop Dog was the main one
that was to drop it like it was hot. So right,
So exactly what are some life lessons you learn from stripping?
Of course, to save your money? I feel like to
set boundaries with people, like, no matter what what area
(36:21):
of your life that it is, no matter if it's
stripping your personal life or whatever. If you don't want
someone to do something, if someone makes you uncomfortable by
doing something, say it, you know what I mean, don't
be afraid to say it. Don't let anyone in this
world to get advantage of you because people will try you. Okay,
you can be as nice as you want, but people
will always try you. So definitely to set boundaries with everyone.
(36:42):
You know, I've definitely learned to just be confident in yourself.
I've learned to, you know, just try to help. I
feel like I always want to help other women out
now because I feel like men you will look at
men in a completely different life as a stripper or
as a sex worker, just in general, because men will
(37:03):
really just try to finish you. They will try to
take advantage of you. And even though these tricks come
in to the strip club, they see you as they
some of them really still see you as being nothing
but a stripper. They see you as being less than
a regular woman, like you know what I mean, So
good exactly, And so that's why I feel like a
lot of strippers we do try to come together and
just bond together because we do have this special bond
(37:26):
because so much of the world seeks as being less
than or you know, being less than just the average woman.
We always feel they need to just try to just
be together and just lift each other and things like that.
So it's really taught me self love for every woman
in this world, even the women that look down on
me and tell me that I don't deserve a man
because I shake my asks for money. I don't care,
you know, I mean, I'm never gonna hate on the
(37:46):
next woman's hustle. You know, whatever you want to say
about me, that's cool, you know what I mean? I
really don't get a fuck with you, but you know,
I'm not going to deny your rights as a woman.
So a lot of.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
People, look, a lot of people judge people because of
what they fear.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I feel like I don't want to say that like
oh that they these women just want to be me
or something like that, because not every woman wants to
be a stripper, and stripping really isn't it for everyone
and stuff like that. But I do feel like it
comes from like like just Indie or something like that.
I have seen a lot of that, like Rose just
hate because they think like, oh, like you know, she
(38:22):
makes a lot of money or something like that. Girl,
they're nice that you will go in the strip club
and walk out with thirty dollars. Okay, it just me
like that, so you know, Yeah, it's crazy though. And
last and at least, what's next after stripping? After stripping?
And how long do you see yourself doing this? Well,
I don't know. Like I always say, it attends like
(38:44):
you know, I said until I was twenty one, but
that's gonna be very close. Yeah, I'll be twenty one
before I even know it. I would say, I don't
really want to strip past the time that I am thirty,
I feel like I will be able to save enough
money by that time, you know, to just be where
I you know, what I want to do. I actually
when I was in school, I was majoring an entrepreneurship.
(39:06):
I've always wanted to be a business owner.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
I always I am entrepreneurship.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, I always knew I didn't want to work for nobody,
Like you know, I hate it where I instill. I
don't like me too, me to girl. And a lot
of the thing that a lot of people don't know
about me is I'm really interested in makeup. I've been
doing makeup since I was about like thirteen or fourteen,
So that's really what I want to go into. But
I don't feel that I have to like lose myself
or lose like my advocacy that I want to do
(39:34):
as a stripper just to like go into a different world,
like you know, raising awareness for sex, the sexual community
and stuff like that. That's something that I will always
be passionate about. It's something that I'm always going to
do because if nobody else is going to say, I'm
going to say it, like you know what I mean,
I'm gonna I'm going to shape the table if nothing else.
So I never want to lose that part of me
(39:54):
just because I want to go and do something else.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
So yeah, right, I mean it's a part of you.
I don't think you would ever lose it. I think
the main reason why because you are so young. Yeah,
and I know all of my guests are anonymous, but
if anybody want to read her blog, please make sure
to email me.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
At hello at the Professional Homegirl dot com.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
But your blog is really good, Like you're really right.
So it's just like stripping is a part of you.
It's what you do, but it's not who you are.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, exactly, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
So, But I think this was a great interview. I
will be checking up on you, and then you have
to go see Houseless this week.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yes I will.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
And if you have any comments, questions, or concerns or
anything for my guests, like I said, please email me
at hello at the Professional Homegirl dot com.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
And until next time, guys later.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
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