July 29, 2025 • 51 mins
In Part 2 of this Pretty Open series episode, Eboné continues her conversation with the DL Whisperer as they dive even deeper into the hidden world of down-low culture. They explore the types of careers many DL men tend to have, the women they’re often drawn to, and the motivations behind those choices.
Together, they shed light on red flags to watch for, how to prioritize your safety in romantic relationships, and the existence of down-low women—an often unspoken topic. It’s a raw, informative, and necessary conversation that challenges perceptions and empowers listeners to stay aware and protected.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebina, a space where no
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hey, y'all, instagral Ebine here, and I hope all is cute.
Welcome back to another episode of Pretty Private with Ebina. Okay,
this week we are back with part two of my
conversation with the one and Only DL Whisperer and Baby.
We talked about the red flags look out for the
types of jobs that DL men tend to work at,
(00:47):
how to stay safe when dealing with someone who may
be on the lull, which is very, very very important
ladies and men. And get this, I don't know about y'all,
but I never heard about DL women, so we definitely
get into that.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And also let me know what y'all think about this
week's episode.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Last week, y'all really enjoyed the conversation to the point
where y'all were texting me child, So shoot me an
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you all.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, now get.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Ready because Part two with the DL Whisper starts now.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm gonna say another good point that you made is
when a man talks about his history and it's always inconsistent.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And I was like, that's a fact, right, because.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
The inconsistency is in especially any history, but especially in
relationship history, because me and don't just be sitting around
saving themselves for the right woman.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Let's be clear.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
When they can't give you history, it's like, okay, either
you will be in a whore, which is cool, just
be honest, or there's something that he doesn't want you
to know. And in general, if he's inconsistently, like especially
life history and relationship, if he just can't give you
any consistent information about him, that means that he's trying
to keep hisself mysterious. And that's usually what d o,
(02:06):
man dud, because they don't want you to know too
much because the more you know, the more you're able
to figure out. They're gonna be listeners. And if telling
you things, it's probably lies. That's always tell people when
you first, get with a man, it's okay to verify
some things that he's saying at first, because you need
to be able to understand that, Okay, he's telling the truth.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
That's how you build.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Aware of thaw to know when he's lying to you.
Because okay, he told me these things, they verifyed. I
asked them three weeks later the same question. He gave
you the same answer. We can assume that, Okay, this
is how he acts when he's telling the truth.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
He's normal.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
He gave a different answer, but he started fidgeting or
doing certain things. That's how I pick up on pattern
recognition because a lot of people don't do that. So
that's always telling like you got time to figure it
out before you get to the bedroom. Because if you
get to the bedroom with the DL man, you're in
love and you're.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Right. So that's all you gotta felt before the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
At last, not least the number one red flag that
I always say, if a nigga loved being around his
nigga's too fucking much.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Boom right, Yeah, so being around the friends, especially, like
I always say, like, of course men spend time with
your friends, but if all of his free time is
spent the round. Men always late at night. He's under
the influence, any influence. Because I always tell a man,
this is something that you think about. When men are
getting drunk and high and doing all of this stuff together,
(03:32):
they get horny, just like when he with you and
he get horny. So what you think happening when they
going to the strip club and they getting all this
ass shook on them? They just hard and horny going
home together drunk, Like what you think happening? Somebody giving
up something that's a fact. He ain't coming home but
you and fucking you Like you need to be thinking like, Okay,
this man been drunk, horny all of this thing, he
(03:54):
didn't a right so either a he cheating on you
with somebody. Let's always say like I never go straight.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
It's the man, but.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
It's something that you should be paying attention to. And
if he around his friends, because I've been a friend,
so ji, I got a bunch of straight male friends
that let them drink lean, right, letting them drink a
little lean or get a little so high. And now
you you leaning on me, and now you want to
slap yes, now you want to DoPT me up and
hold my hand and look me in my eyes.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I'm just like, here we go.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
If we go, you want to be so close, don't
like be touching on your girl, because most of the most
dyl men are gonna, like I always tell women, when
they're with you behind closed doors, you're gonna know that
they hate you or that they're not in it. They're
gonna be slamming shit always like you said, always unhappy,
always looking for some reason for you to not want
to be around them, so they can just go and
(04:44):
you know, go do what they actually want.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
To do, or they can make up and excuse to
go be with their boys.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But does I think you feel uncomfortable when you're around
your street friends and you may pick up on something
and you be like, here we go.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yes, Because let's always tell people like men in general
are predatory because a lot of gay men they prey
on these straight men. But I'm like, these men, you
can't turn a man out, that's what me and aren't
being prayed on.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
They're they're literally playing bring it out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I was about to say some straight men, because if
you tell me that you're straight and then you're starting
to flirt and now it's like you're giving me all
of these mixed emotions that's predatory to me because why
you didn't just tell me the truth? Now I feel
like we built the friendship off of lies because you
had other intentions. That's why I say most men don't
really be friending people for real, Like most of most
(05:33):
men pick friends based off attraction. That's why you will
see a man it's a group of tens, it's a
group of fives. Like men ink up based off attraction.
Like you'll see a whole group of fine ass niggas
and you on the wonder like how the fuck they all?
How all fine niggas ended up together because they all
looked at each other and knew they was all fine
and started building each other into it like a friend
(05:54):
group essentially.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Mm hmmm, because think about it, why do women?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Women will be friends with anybody like it is not
the fact Now I'm not gonna say someone women, but
most women aren't.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You gotta look this certain way and you gotta yet
they're not because most.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Women not ugly. They just broke. So I agree, like
women would be around because we know, like girl, you
just need to do this or do that whatever. But
I do. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
If I see a group of a group of niggas
and they all find I'm like, come on now, something
they adding them because y'all.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It's too much like it's clear that there's the attraction
is the basis of the friend shild mm hmm. Because again,
even men don't be fraend women either unless they're a
little bit gay.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
They got it.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I'm telling you, mark my words. If a man that's
always say and I always tell women to think about this.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
If you have a male friend, he's either gay or
you had the friends on him so many times that
he's just gonna act like he's your friend until you
get in a vulnerable moment and then he's gonna try
you again.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, because I'm like, think that men they're unless they're gay,
because again, men aren't thinking like that. Every every move
is based off attraction or if it's money involved. That's
why they're so transactional. That's why they're so easy, because
all you got to do is to have a little money.
Even in this process, like a lot of these niggas.
If women hit me up and I'm trying to figure
(07:14):
out if they nigga to.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yield like some of them.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
If they tell me they man money hungry, I'll start
off sending dollar signs. Let's let's see how money hunger
you actually are. And some of them they go forward
immediately what because they that money hungry.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
That's all they say. If your man is too money hungry,
you gotta know them.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And it don't even they don't even be wanting a
lot one hundred dollars you and now you want a
video chat, now you possibly will meet up. You're trying
to send big pictures all of this. You willing so
gay for one hundred dollars. That's why I like, they
don't even be no big money like niggas gonna be
asking for thousands. That's why I say. And niggas don't
even realize. They be thinking, oh, only women can make money,
(07:53):
like y'all have the potential. But I mean nobody. Again,
men don't see they still how they actually are. They
try to vicariously live through women. That's why you'll see
men always trying to paint women off or get on
only fans or do something, or they'll have women in
the string because at.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
The end of the day, women fucking niggas while they
watch y'all.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Right, yeah, or they're cockling, yo.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
So that's why he's always men are always used in
women in some way, and those aren't men that love
women either, because you wouldn't be out here, like I
don't even want to because the word, it's the word
is exploits. But yeah, I guess everybody being explored in
some way.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, yes, stand the light y'all? Yeah, standing the light.
You know where that came from?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
What yow? Five has been a ship show?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And I feel like we're just getting started with all
these celebrity.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Drama and people just being exposed.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Like there's been a lot of right.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And then with the recent allegations of someone Yeah, like
it's just it's really fucking.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Crazy, right, I wasn't shocked.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I mean, I'm not shocked about anything no more because
we don't know these people.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yes, that's why I'm telling it's so many people that
I just be like, but I have tried to stay.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Some people people some people you people just.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Don't absolutely not believe it. So sometimes you're gonna have
that issue too.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But people also have to learn how to separate the
art from the person. True, because I think sometimes people
get so caught up in the person are and what
they do, this and that, but it's like, this is
a real person who and we're not talk talking about
particular but like.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
People are fucked up. People like people like certain things.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
People have power, we have money, they have access, so
they feel like they invincible.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Exactly because I mean, you see that happen a lot
in the industry where people think they invincible, and then
we got one of the most invincible people and even
though nothing convicted, but wild.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
So that's why I was like a lot of this
and it's to me, it's always rooted in perversion and
sexual Like every time we get to the root of anything,
it's always something devient, perverted and sexual.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, I say, like.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Men are sexual preachers. That's why a lot of them
look at women. That's just sexual objects. That's why they'll
never love a women. They'll just sleep with a whole
bunch of them because it's just a whole just somebody.
Like I tell a lot of women, a lot of
these men just want to have sex with you just
so they can say, then I had sex with her.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
They they only having sex with women to prove something
to other men.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And I always said, a lot of men hate women.
That's like vagina. Now what kind of careers are these
men in?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Because I thought this was fascinating because I also said
the same thing, and I agree with you on this one.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
So I always say male dominated fields, which are a
lot of fields, but just to go over like the
top ones, the d o man that I see, entertainment
is the top motherfucking field. And still following the entertainment,
whether there's radio, podcasting.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Vlog and twitching, adult.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Any anything under the entertainment umbrella because the people that
run entertainment keep that in mind.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
What's not male dominated. You got police officers.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Even when we talk about entertainment that involves sports too,
it's entertainment.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Music is entertainment.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
So all of these highly especially black because again black
dl started as a black thing, m hm. So it
started in these type of staces like rappers, a lot
of raps. So let's always say any male dominated states
that especially is dominated by black men, there's going to
(11:54):
be a lot.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Of d oism involved. And then you got like warehouses
or rope then, so that's always caro on.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Try not to focus on the career is because it's
gonna be the warehouse worker all the way up to.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
The damn CEO.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Is you also too all.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Fraternities, Oh yeah, because that's not a career any any fraternities.
Fraternities are rooted out of being gay. Like when you
look into the fraternities, like you look into the brotherhood,
when you look into why they re formed, it's all
in being gay. That's why everything that they need. Now, Okay,
how they brand, Like fraternities essentially are a type of slavery.
(12:31):
Like it's it's it's literally like a a byproduct of slavery.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Essential. Like look how the Q dolls brand.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
They still when we got here, people used to brand
does Look how they do those humiliations acted which usually
be homo erroty. They do a bunch of homoerotic stuff.
They're doing all of these gay jokes. They're doing all
of this brotherhood where it's this level of we can't
say anything bad about each other, so anything that happens,
we got to keep it between each other. And I
(12:58):
didn't talk to too many people in fraternities to you know,
think that they're they're straight, Like it's literally rooted in
me and gay.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
They shower together.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
That's why I always tell people football players, think about it,
these men that went through their whole life showering, Like yeah, yeah,
at a certain age, you don't know what you're seeing,
but you also don't know that this is because think
about how people are just programmed, Like when you keep
seeing something, you keep building these bonds. Like that's why
a lot of men don't think about how men look
at women. They don't trust women to Oh, I can't
(13:29):
tell women my emotions, but they'll go tell men That's
always say, like, it starts with these emotional connections, and
then they start getting closer and closer, even in fraternities.
Like how many brothers do you know that really be
out here trusting women? Or do they only trust each other?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I would say both, But what is.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
It more of?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Because the women, like I always tell women, women are
going to be in rotation those brothers and those those
men that to me, most men have the relationships. Ever,
they give terrible advice to each other. They be hating
on each other, they be not wanting each other to succeee.
A woman can tell the man some same advice and
he's not gonna say kid, because he only values what
(14:09):
a man is saying he don't respects men. So that's
why I say a lot of them they're bread to
think like that. Of course you have the alphas that
are leading the pack, but then the people that.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Are don't say that, they're not thinking.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
For themselves, Like think about it. Future is walking around
in the motherfucking person all of this woman is just
hiring all of these niggas, not wearing persons and doing
all of this gay shit that now they're like, no,
Future doing it, it's not gay. No, that shit is
gay just because Future started doing That's why I said
a lot of men are being like pretty much groomed
it to being gay. They doing all of this gay
(14:44):
plan like touching each other all gay because they're seeing
streamers do it.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
And you know, it's like there is that's been an agenda.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That's why even like when you talked about slavery, and
you know, you talked about like STDs, like s tds
were put in the black community first, like we always say,
like a lot of these things were done to black people.
Like when you go back and look, we didn't have
a Brokeback Mountain for black people. There was no queer
movies where Black people were represented and we were showed
that we can love ourselves to and be gay and queer.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
It was never that white people had all of that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Any white movie, Like you know what I'm saying, So
white people that's always say white men don't have to
be deal because they've always been shown that it's okay
for them to be gay.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Because me cry died, I was like I was in.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Peel grade watching Broke Mountain.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's when I realized I was really really gay, Like
because I was watching it and I had to sneak
and watch it first of all because it felt weird
even but when I watched it, I'm just like I
always thought I would have that cycle love. That's that
wasn't even realistic white men getting that type of loove.
But it's the fact that it made me have hope
that I could.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's a fact.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
But when I watched Moonlight, what happened that made me want.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
A great contrast?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Wow, that that had me like I love my little
dr relationship that I was in because I'm like, I'm
seeing it in Moonlight, Like Moonlight, you know that hot,
that masculinity that because sometimes that's how Moonlight for me,
that's how it was for a while. That's why I
didn't see a problem in it, because it was like,
you get so deep with some people sometimes that don't
(16:23):
you forget about the sexuality.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Of it all.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Damn and think I'm thinking about that actor.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
But look how long in between I was in fifth
grade and then I was a senior in high school
and Moonlight came out where I was just graduating high school.
So you got to think, like, That's why I was like,
it wasn't no representation, because even Moonlight isn't good representation because.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
It makes DL men look good. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. I like that.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I like the characters in Moonlight, but I didn't like
the fact that it was showcasing the dal on this.
But I get it because that's what a lot of
black men are going through. That's what it is like
when they went they bros, that's how close to it is, like,
that's the level that it.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Gets to a lot of the times. That's why I always.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Tell them if a man, how men get that close
and they can't get close to a woman like that,
he's not going to be with a woman. Yeah, and
they get that close. That's why I was like black
men don't don't think that they can be loved like
that unless it's about other men for the most part,
because they feel like a woman's gonna look at me.
You know how many niggas I do have cry on
(17:25):
my shoulder, some hard ass niggas. And he always say,
my girl would never let me cry, like she would
look at me differently. And I'm just like, but you're humoring.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
What's up, y'all. It's shagarl eb and A here, and
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YouTube channel at the Professional Homegirl. Now let's get back
to the show. That's why when I was in Paris
and I was at a lot of the gay clubs,
and I was seeing all these gay black men, and
I was just so happy for them because you can
(17:59):
just tell that they were just so they look free
and yeah, right, and I'm just like, I was just
like my god, like I only I can only imagine
what they might have to go back home.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
To, right, That's the sad part. And I mean I
do get them sympathy and grace back at the end
of the day two cares because I like, your family
is not the friends. You're gonna lose friends, but they
want your friends.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Your family.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Your family probably already knows your gay. So it's like
the self hatred is the part that they have to
in because that's the whole thing about DM man. They
hate themselves and then they project it and they come
into other people lives and they ruin everything that they touch.
So that's the bad part because it's a lot of
women that are being stuck with children that they probably
(18:45):
wouldn't have had, being stuck with issues and problems mentally
that men have on set like because like I always
tell people, a DM man can drive you crazy. I
don't think people understand when I say that, but they
can drive.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
For a point that you only who are.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You break breaks.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
No that is I feel like a man Lilan download
just a man will drive you to the break of
no return and down is worse.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So that's why always say you gotta gotta avoid them,
because I feel like there's so much like more mean
and worse to women because a lot of them are
with women because of society and they don't have the
balls to Like I always tell people, I was never
gonna lie and pretend and no, that was never gonna be.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
That's never been my personality.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Like I can even imagine if I had to still,
you know, be faking, or if I had to facing
act like I was truly sexually into women that wanted to,
you know, be with women. It's like, no, I love women,
but not like that. Yeah, and a lot of them
love women but maybe not like that, but they feel
like they have to because sometimes, like I said, whether
they're in sports stores, certain medias, you can't be getting
(20:00):
like and I and I really hate that. How many
openly gay sports players do you know?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
None?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
We had one? Yeah, he kissed that man on that
draft and guess what, they talked him. He never even
got in the game.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
That was it. He got cut right after that.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
He got drafted and then cucked because why did you
kiss that man on national TV? This was some years ago.
It's not Michael Michael Stam. I think Michael stand. It
was an NFL player. He was getting drafted into the
NFL and he thought that he was gonna kiss his partner,
you know, I guess yeah, he kiss of them all
(20:39):
like he was pretty much letting them know that he
was openly gay. But that's what I'm saying, Like I
know football players right now, like even basketball players. I
was dealing with this basketball player. See that's why I
told you in college that he shows. I was dealing
with this basketball player and a football player. But basically
when the coach found out, they're on the jet and
they like, we heard that you mess around with this boy.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Da da da da da.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
The men don't feel comfortable to into the locker room.
They don't want you around them. So he had to
shower separately after everybody.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
He couldn't.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
They benched him, couldn't play anymore, and they pretty much
justisolated him until he eventually, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Just call there to quit.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
How did they find out.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Because basically the players saw me coming out. All of
the players lived like in this building, and they saw
me coming out of his even though you can't you
can't asston, but you see what I'm saying, Like that
he couldn't even be saw with a gay man.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Wow, they saw me coming out.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Of his place, and they just assumed that we weren't
even being essentially at the but he did want a house,
but it didn't happen. That was my whole point, like
just even I'm seeing me just put all of that
into motion.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So it happened to his career. It just got that
was it?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Like maybe he was he never played again. I told you, like, well,
but then he blamed me after that that that could happen,
like you kept wanting me to come and I'm like,
if somebody see me, but in his hand and impulsive.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
He was from New York, so he wasn't even necessarily
thinking that how people in Atlanta think about everything, like
because there is going to be gay already, so they're
they're looking out for it and they're so let's always
tell people like I understand that aspect that in certain
careers you can't be openly gay.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, okay, So what are some of the things download
men often want in the bedroom that should raise red
flags with women?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
So anytime a man is wanting anything, ain't no, ain't
any backshots.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
I always tell women a download man.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Okay. So I just made a video about this too.
Top verse bottom, Top is the giver the verses. In
the middle, he gives and receives. In the bottom is
the taker. I would be considered a bottom. I led
a bunch of tops. I will say this, it's not
too many full tops. The full top is the man
that never gets any penetration. I've topped a lot of
full tops, so it's not a lot of full tops
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out here. What I say is that aintal tops love
backshots infallatio.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
That's gonna be the go to. They're not gonna be
able to get hard.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
It's not gonna if they're not hitting you from the
back or you're not giving them head, that's all they're
gonna want. Sometimes they're gonna want your back door, and
they're gonna be upset if you don't give it to them.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
But don't.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
If your man is a bottom, he's gonna want you
to always plan his back door. You're gonna be putting
bullets in it. You're gonna be you probably will have
to put a strap on. Always tell women when he
asks you to get this strap, that's it should be around.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That should be enough sign for you.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
That because I always tell women like you know how
that's still a cone?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Feel do you want that or do you want a
real thing?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So, you need to be asking your stulf why you
keep putting this there's still a cone in him? Is
he gonna want to feel the real thing because he
has one feel, So you get what I'm saying. I'm
gonna want the real things. So like I always tell women,
ain't a straight man, And how you really figure out
if they's are really d l is because they're gonna
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try to put it in your heads on it because
they already know that women are on the lookout for
that type of stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
They're gonna test the water. So they're not.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Gonna tell you like I want to do an They're
gonna ask you stuff and kind of put stuff out
there to make you think you want to do it.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
You can ask them.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
And when you ask them, they're gonna say no, that's gay.
Then they're gonna get drunk and then they're gonna want
to do that anal stuff. And that's gonna show you
right there that aid their liars. And b they probably
already do it. Because when a lot of women be like,
what if I introduce it, you will If I want
women to know this, you will never be introducing a
man to probably much of nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Nothing. He already did it.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
If he's planning you to make you think that you
know he have I've never done it. So you can
then want to be the first one and feel special.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Don't mess with like, do you know how many niggas
I hear, Oh you're the first gay? Do what I
ever messed with? That used to be cute.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Until I realized, like, that's such a that's an easy
manipulation tactic. I was like, I was a little naive
because come on, the first, but you'd be.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
One of to believe certain sh it's so bad a.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Nigga that's been out here fucking all at this time,
I ain't about to be there. That's why I say
I had to realize who niggas actually were. M M
because I feel like that's who are a lot of
women messed up? They don't really know men because maybe
they don't have enough men around or they didn't like
always tell women you probably not a lot of women
either don't have brothers or their dad wasn't that active.
But you gotta have some men somewhere so you can
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know more about men. Because a lot of women, when
I hear them talking about men, it's just like you're
completely off the money. Yeah, I mean like they don't
know men, even like with thinking old men. Like these
type of women or distance. It'd be like, Mmm, did
a man tell you that? Or you just assume that
because I'm like, women think about things from their perspective,
(25:59):
but you kind of have to be a man. That's
always till women. I don't try to think for women.
That's always ask women before I think or before I
make an assumption. I'll because I'm not a woman, so
I can't think for y'all. But I know about men
because I'm a man.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, yeah, why do you think so mean download men
have children with multiple women?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Because that's what I don't like.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
So a lot of that comes from for starters, they
think that they are invincible. They can't catch STDs, they're
not gonna use condoms, so it's a lot of condomalistics.
It's a lot of sex in general. So of course,
if you're having unprotected sex with a whole bunch of people,
it's gonna be able to produce babies, and a lot
of them want kids, so a lot of them will
try women.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Like I always tell women, if.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
You get the fact, you gotta be prepared that if
he see that you on your ship, or even that
you on the way to being on your ship, he
might try to trap you with a baby, because they
look at that as this is somebody I can rely on,
like if all else feels I got my baby, mamas
and right like man though, it's really like a combination
of tactics, Like some men literally just want that.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Some men it's because they're DL and they think having
kids like.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
So the fact basically all of those are not good
reasons though to have a kid with a woman, like
because they don't actually be wanting to partake in what
it actually means to have a kid. That's why when
you're going through that post hard them when you speak
the prive and you're going you have to think about
all of this before you have a kid, because these
DM men that can't give you an emotional connection, they're
(27:26):
not gonna be emotionally connected to that kid. So they're
not going to give a fuck that you're stressed and
you're tired, just like they're not gonna care about their
kid enough to help you out. So then that's gonna
put even more mental anguish on you. It's gonna be
a snowball because some of them also want to see
women doing bad, so they feel like, like I always
tell women when you have a kid, your life is
going to change. It's gonna be a lot harder to progress.
(27:49):
You're gonna have to work even more. So a lot
of these men know that and they want you to
have to have to work hardst So they're like, ooh,
let me do this.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yes, you play chess cause new bitches. That's why I
take my I'm taking my time, yo. I literally teld
my homegirl, I'm like, yo, I can't wait to see
what they're gonna get baby out of me because I
want I definitely want children. But I'm just like, it's
scary out.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Here, especially for women because y'all. They're not being honest
with y'all. That's the part that I hate because if
they would just be honest. Now, I do tho song
discreet men or closited men that will be honest with women.
But a lot of them know that women are not
going to take the risk, like did you not hit
their numbers, They're five times more likely to catch HIV,
(28:32):
seventy nine percent more likely to catch STIs if they
deal with men that sleep with men and women. So
they know a lot of women aren't gonna do it,
so they would rather take their consent.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Essentially, and assault people.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, because I think also, it's not that you're being gay,
it's that you're not being honest.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Thank you, and it's that you're being gay.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I mean I think I mean also gay because.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But you know what I'm saying, like gay is everybody's gay,
like it's twenty twenty five. But it's like, be honest
with me, like, do not force my hand with this,
because you don't know if I'm into that or not?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Right, And I feel like, like I always tell men
it's different body parts like you because somebody enough that
they'll stick it.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
In the man and they come home to fuck you.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Right, not even no shower, not even they just have
some baby whites and white dolls exactly exactly. But I
was telling a lot of men like they don't realize
that even with STDs, I'm like, women only catch STDs
for men. And I know that sound controversial, but if
it's women and women transmission is not that it's men
(29:37):
that are giving women STDs. So let's always say women
have to be extra careful because not only can you
have a kid, you can catch these STIs, these these
things that you can't get rid of. So it's way
more risky for women.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, why is it so important for women to not
confront and download men because that's something that you strongly advise.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yes, So it's important for women not taking from download
man because they are going to get violent inaggression.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Aggressive Like essentially.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Just like my life almost got taken, a woman would
be more susceptible to her life being taken, like I
had physically fights for my life. A lot of women
get physically beat up men, and they're not going to
be able to take on a man. So you're going
to confront a man with the biggest secret of his life.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
He's gonna protect that secret, baby protected.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
And a lot of them look at it.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
The only way I can say it is if you
can't talk, especially I say like with say not to
say his name, but with the boy he was, it
was more so like, well.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
You know the secret, so it's gonna know it.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I'm always I can't let you walk around knowing that
you know my secret. And it's that like I try
to get people to realize, like we look at sexuality
is such a meniscal thing, but it's that serious to
them that they will kill people and just go to
jail for the rest of their life.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
And it's been so many cases a women losing their
lives to these men.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Yes, and I don't think it's promoted enough though.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I was like, oh, we don't see that it was
because with secretly gay, we just woman got killed by man.
I'm like a lot of the time it be dl
men killing these women. There were dudes or people. They're
just not reporting that. My god, Yeah, they're going to
a rage because, like I always tell women, like when
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you start bringing it up to them, it's like all
of the thoughts that they bury, some of some and
some of it I feel like goes all the.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Way back to maybeighborhood.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, because like I always say, like that is a
big thing, especially in the black community, Like that's the
big thing. So you start bringing up all of these
things and it's like they're already fucking demented.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
And yeah crazy.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
So now you have this uncontrollable person with all of
these thoughts that they need help controlling, like they need
a therapist, but that's they're not going to ever do
for the most part.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
So now they're going to take it out on you.
And I always tell women they usually take it out
on women and not men. Of course not because it's easier.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
They know like a woman, you know, like I said,
when I did eventually start fighting him, like boom boom
boom boom boom, like black and Blue, like he was
beat the fuck like when I tell you, to the
point that they didn't even take no mod s out
of him.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
So that's all I was like, that's not going to
be the case for most women. You're not gonna be
the man black and Blue.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
So don't go out there confronting these men because you're
essentially saying, hey, take my life. I know that that
sounds harsh, but literally, they're gonna try to take your
life to keep a secret because again, it's so big
to them, because think about it, it seems so like,
really take somebody life over something like this. But it's like, yes,
they will take somebody's life over something like this, and
(32:36):
a lot of women just think that, like really like.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yes, yes, but if a woman is in a situation
where she feels compelled to confront him, what advice.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Would you give her?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
So, like I always told him, if you do have
to confront a man about anything, make sure you're in
a public space. Make sure people know that you're gonna
do this. Like I always say, like if I and
my women friends had to do this, I'm gonna be there.
I'm probably gonna be the one that related information. So
make sure you have support, especially from a man, because
this is the man. And anytime, like my female friends,
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they're a boyfriends and stuff might get aggressable with them,
But then I get on the phone and now he
got sense. I come in person. Now he got some sense.
So if you have man, make sure you got a
little reinforcement, preferably a man. Do it in a public place.
But like always tell him if you have to confront him,
that means that you probably know. So instead of confronting him,
(33:27):
get an exit, playing together because most of the yell man,
they're gonna be relying on you anyways, so you don't
need to let them know what you know, because then
that's when the baby started coming into play, when they
started feeling like you're trying to leave.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
That's why you gotta know what they're doing and just leave. Yeah,
try to stop you.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Then they're gonna convince you, oh, I'm not dl you
want to go through my phone. Now they're going to
be on the straight and arrow, not doing nothing like
I always tell you they cannot act on urges. Yeah,
and then a woman eight months later, Way, he ain't
done nothing in eight months now.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
He rapped back on.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It because you probably worse how he started.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Right, So let's I always say, like, that's the biggest
thing I would say, not to confront them, but if
you have to, just do it and don't be confrontational.
Like I always tell people in therapy something that I
learned ice statements like I never tell people what they feel.
I always speak from a place stuff. This is how
I feel, this is what you've done, this is how
I feel like, not putting anything like you tell me
(34:23):
how you feel. I'm just telling you how I feel
because I feel like that does work better without making
people feel like you're accused in them of anything. Because
of course people get defensive. That's the natural reaction. You
feel accused of something, you're gonna get defense. The people
are onto your secret, you're gonna get.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Aggressed to it.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, how many women have came to you and just
said thank you for saving me?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
So many I can't even go how does.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
That make you feel? Because I love that.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
That's because I'm just like, it's working like it helps.
It helps because I always thought like what if it
doesn't help? Because the first time I ever tried to
do this, I think where I messed up. I was
just exposed in men and and I realized, like me,
as those the men that I dealt with, isn't going
to help women because what you're dealing with that man,
it doesn't matter. So then I had to like start
(35:08):
thinking like how do I truly truly help? And giving
out the information is how I figure it would be
most helpful because I think it does help. Like I
get women from Australia, Norway, Canada, like all over the
globe that hit me up.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Wow. And why do you think so many women internalize
that it's their fault because the man's actions.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Because a lot of women think that they can change
men and they feel like well, and it comes to
a little narciss system with them too, because they feel like, well,
I'm so great that he should have changed for me.
And that's always said to me. It wasn't in you.
You weren't the reason why he was deal. You weren't
the reason why X, Y and Z. So it was
nothing that you get bigger than you. So I think
(35:53):
a lot of people internalize it because they be with
these men and they feel like, well, a lot of
men DM men are going to break you down and
make you think that you should have done something differently.
That's because, like I always tell him, and they want
you to feel like at all times that you need
to do better to be right for them. Yea, that
treatment going where you're always doing going over the extra
(36:14):
mile to make sure, oh he loves me, or you know,
you're doing too much and he's not even reciprocating it.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Now, are there certain types of women who tend to
attract download men?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
And if so, who are that? Because this was some
tea right here, baby.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yeah, So there are a couple of types of women
that attract.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Download man's smiling.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
So the main one that.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I always talk about is the pic me, which is
the woman that the pic me shit, she's better than
every other woman, and he's gonna pick her because she
has this and that and you know, she's just so great.
And you know, women that's always go straight for the
pick me because to me, that that's the easiest to
distinguish because you start getting into like the women that
(37:01):
are going to be ride or die, That feel like
I gotta stand by this man no matter what those women,
like I said on our video, they usually end up
going through the most because they're trying to stand by
a man that is never going to change, and just
because they don't want people to have a perception, which
is a lot of women, because if a man is
doing you wrong, leave him. Why are you being right
(37:21):
or out like for somebody that's doing you wrong?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
You have the Christian woman, let's talk about the Christian
women because a lot of Christian women, what they don't
realize is that a man will use your spirituality, your
belief in God or whatever you believe in against you.
He'll see them into that heavily, and he'll just act
like he's into it. Because again, women don't. I don't
(37:45):
think women pay attention because if a man is telling
you that he's spiritual and all of this, but his
actions show you otherwise, you should know that he's blind.
A lot of women don't realize, like a lot of
dl men live in the church too, like they're in
that's going to be a place there for sure gonna
be deal is it? So it's different types of women,
But any woman that's not sure for So that's what
(38:06):
I always say, Like, the biggest thing is if you're
attracting d ol Man is because you're like, so you
need to be sure of your stuff. You need to
have confidence, you need to know who you are and
not let a man define who you are. And I
think that'd be the biggest problem, like all of the
what those women have in common is they let men
define them.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Always say a man needs a woman to be complete.
Women don't really need men to be complete. Yeah, women
have to like it's way more power in a woman
being a woman than a man.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Like men aren't really I mean, yeah, think about it.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Most women really only use men for sincks that we
really gonna get technical. Yeah, the women be dll they
just don't want to be with a woman out right.
But it's like you don't really like men, you just
like penis.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Listen to my next question, which I was like, I
I never heard this term before, because.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
You also talk about download women.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Yes, because that's something that we had to talk about because,
like I said, a lot of these women are trying
these men because they're just like them, Like download women
are hoghy, promiscuous. A lot of baby daddies. They're not
real joy. And again they're only finding joy and penis,
which is the right. It never works out. And I
have a lot of download women friends. They'll sleep with women,
(39:27):
they'll be with women secretly, nobody knows. I know, so
I guess they're closeted women at that point. But download
closet it is still a thin line. They're not going
to tell a man that they're with. So that's why
I have to talk about download women too, because I
have to get women to understand, like when you do
stuff like that and at these Christmas parties and you
sissoring and bumping and slapping and you know, everything that's
(39:49):
going on that's download Like you go back home and
you act straight like nothing happened.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
I was like, men literally do that.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, But do you think download women are judged differently
than download men.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Yes, because now old women like I always tell people,
you don't hear me bashed down low women.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I only talk about it because people ask.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
But it's different because download women aren't leaving women with kids.
The STD transmission is that women to women is so low,
So it's you don't hear about download women killing women
to keep rich. So I'm like, it's not as toxic
as men. So I try not to focus on women
because I'm like, there's enough people that go against women,
and I feel like the download women, they're not from
(40:26):
what I see, from what I know, they're not hurting nobody.
Because if down you weren't hurting anybody, like people would
need to know. But of course I always do tell women. Now,
some men might not want to be with a woman
that's by sexual Yeah, so you are taking that away
because some I feel like if a's straight man, he
probably not going his women to be into men, I
(40:46):
mean into women.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I feel like a straight man only wants this woman
for himself.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Thank you. So that's all I was like, It's.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Like he not into no three, not into none of
that shit, Like, girl, you gotta take this that and
and be happy, and he's.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Gonna appreciate and build up the woman that he loves.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Let's always tell women like you don't think it's backwards,
like why would a man get what you? Women want
to tear you down and make you think that you're
the lowest person on this earth and every idea you
throw out, he thinks that it's stupid. Like, I'm like,
that would make no sense to him being with you.
He doesn't like you, and a lot of people don't
recognize that. Like, and I can always say, if a
man doesn't like you, it's probably not because of something
(41:23):
you're doing. He's probably around because you're he's using you
for something.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah, yeah, yo, we're almost finished. But I just thought
about this.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
So are the women who are paid to be beers?
Are they just as guilty as a download many part
in it?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Well, I feel like this because some women are okay
with their man being by, So I feel like that
will probably be a woman that's okay with her man.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Being by anyways.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
But I think to me, I would if I if a.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Woman has to prefer, that's essentially your.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Man letting you know that he's into man and that
you're okay, and you know, it's kind of tricky. I
don't because I mean, is he down low? If the
woman knows, I feel like that's closetive. That's the way
we can kind of come into closet it because I
always feel down a man, the only person that truly
needs to know what you're doing is the woman that
you're sleeping with. It you don't have to do announcement.
(42:20):
I don't have no announcements coming out of the closet.
You don't need to come out of the closet for us.
But what you do need to do is tell a
woman that you're gonna lay down with Hey, I'm into
these things, right, But if.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
She's being paid to just to be to help him
with the cover up the deception, but he's still doing.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
His thing, okay, well, as long as he's not talking
to other women. That's always feel like closetive men, I
would not I probably wouldn't be here. Most men were
closetive where they didn't affect women, Like he's only sleeping
with men. Because if a man is only feeling his
perversion in all of his little devians with other men
that are down for it, I'm cool with that. I
think they do it for women and they're tricking them.
(42:57):
So that's why I say, like, if a woman isn't
being trigged, I don't think because honestly, download men hurt
people because of all of the things that they do
to hide. It's to keep it a secret, killing people, lying,
being manipulative, Like if they're with the woman and they
can be honest with her. I think that again, it's
not really down low, it's more positive, and I think
(43:19):
that would help.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
But most men don't have the money to pay a
woman to be a beard.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
What the celebrities do.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
Yeah, don't.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Sometimes I do be trying to make sure because I'm
like the average person. Like when I had to realize
that a lot of people told me they're like, listen,
we're not talking to these celebrities like we're talking to
these regularized niggas, Like we need you to calm.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Back down, Like you're right, but.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I can't get no basketball player booth, which I.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Realized because again I'm thinking, this is just you know, life,
but the DL shit is just different. That's why I'm
just like, Okay, I had to kind of bring it back.
But yo, So that's to me, the main thing that
women should be on the lookout for, so last one,
not least.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
So what type of man should women to be growing
off of?
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Simps?
Speaker 4 (44:10):
So I done a video about this, make sure I'll
watch it. Women need men that are the simps. Yes,
a simp can still be d I'm not saying that,
but simp is at least going to treat you properly
I feel like, and the men that I feel like
are balanced, because always tell him that men are never
gonna just be just all the way masculine. So if
(44:31):
a man is hyper masculine like that, you need to
watch him because it's the fun Like, go out to
the man that are balanced, like It's okay, he don't
have a little sast to them.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
It's normal.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
He was raised by a woman, and a man probably
got disass from his mama. So find a balance man.
Find a man that's actually into women, like I always
tell him with simps. Simps like women, and even if
they're faking, let at least a man that let a
man fake and treat you right, you'll eventually versus the
d o man that's gonna treat you terribly. They don't
even try to treat you right. So let's I always say,
(45:01):
like the simps to me or the men that women
don't want though, which I hate, Yeah, because they're not
going to be always conventionally attractive, I know, but you.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Can work on that.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
That's why I say I always tell women though, if
you who you are, like you say you are, and
how you feel you are, you should be able to
bring any man to your.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Level, not do you? I would want to say, do
you want to do that?
Speaker 4 (45:24):
I would lead and except something because I do think
a lot of women get tricked by d O men
because they go by looks. They love the aesthetics, they
love the lots good every time. You're gonna get done
in every time going by them looks every every time
because just like them, the best looking men know that
(45:45):
they look good. So they're already going to be narcissists,
that they're already going to be conceded. So then when
they have everybody coming at them, A lot of men
end up talking to men for attention and because they
can get men yeah, and they necessarily get that many
women and they realize, oh ship, like all of these
men on me like women women out only like this,
(46:06):
and they just become they start liking the attention. That's
why I say it all. It could start a lot
of different places. But ultimately.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
A lot of these men are gay, sadly, and I
hate that for the women because the we're the women's
gay bro, what are women gonna do? But I always
to trick them. Tell when you meet a man, let
him know I love bisexual man like I just I
just laateing a bisexual man. Go ahead and trick him
in thinking that you're into bisexual so he can go
ahead and tell you. And then that way you could
(46:37):
just ghost them because I'm telling you, men are easily manipulated,
like they're always manipulating. But you gotta be you gotta
be tense up here.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
That's why a lot of them don't tell women, because
a woman will tell them up front, I don't want
to be with a man that sends the men noble
like you love that, like I got gay friends. I
mean you be like though, because you're gonna mentally trick them.
They're gonna be Oh, she's cool with it whole time.
Just keep eating each your food on the day. Once
he tell you I've been with men once or I
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like men cool, you know in your head one day
than done.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Listen scripture this confuse our enemy, child, because that's.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
What they're gonna do to you, like if you say
especially because most women up front tell men they don't
want to be a men that are into men too,
like they want to be with straight men. And I'm like,
that's the last thing you should say, because now he
knows that you're gonna take him off the list of
possibilities if he tells you the truth. So now he's
gonna definitely lie. Whereas it why didn't manipulate him just
(47:35):
a little bit? Because it's bad, but I mean I
don't think it hurts somebody.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, especially in the beginning because I'm up again, it's like, shit,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
So let's always tell the men.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
Just know that men are gonna be manipulating you just
just a little, like don't lie about everything or you know,
but that that's a simple white lie. Yeah, I like
bisexual men, got no problem with it. Like I just
got dumped by one, so I'm looking for my nick
by pictual.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Man, right right.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
I get so much.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Stuff out of man from doing little stuff like that, because,
like I say, men are so easy and people think
they're so complicated. It's literally like reverse psychology with most men,
Like that's how they operate too, and you know how
when you're growing up, that's how men are. Just always
say men are easy. They don't change. Women just think
they're so complicated. Like, nobude, it's that tricky that you're
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into by men. He gonna feel comfortable not realizing that
you're lying, and he's gonna tell you and then you
goostone period, he's gonna go on for the next. For men,
like I always tell the men, some women are gonna
be okay with you being by move on.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
If a woman's not okay with it.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
If you that like you are, I'm like, if you
that nigga, anyways, you should be able to tell a
woman if she don't.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Give a fuck.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
Yeah, But these niggas know they're not that nigga, and
they gotta lie and manipulate and they should be put
in jail for ship like that. But they ain't gonna
do that because it's gonna be too many niggas locked up.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Now this was a treat. I'm pretty sure they gonna
want you to come back on. Like, I'm so happy
that I found you and we connected because I really
do think that you are helping so many people and
not just women, but also encouraging men to live out
in their truth. So I really appreciate you so place
and everybody where we can connect with you and support you.
Because he is as sessions, he does power posch.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
Chown wellwything right. They want me to do a master class.
But so I am on every platform as the Doo Whisper.
So right now my TikTok is banned, but I'm everywhere
else Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, X deal whisper on every platform.
And I do appreciate you for giving me this opportunity
because this was a good conversation. Like you see, I
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know it's so slower, but I like, I love conversations
like they felt like we were just on the phone.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I told you, I said, well, it's gonna feel like
we've been doing this for a thousand years. But I
really like, I am a fan of your work and
I'm so happy that we were able to do this
because this was so good, like super informative.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
I know the professional homegirls are gonna love this.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
So I really appreciate you for allowing me to be
a part of your journey and.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
Thank you for allowing me to come on and you know,
have this conversation with you.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hey, y'all, instagral Ebine here, and I hope all is cute.
Welcome back to another episode of Pretty Private with Ebina. Okay,
this week we are back with part two of my
conversation with the one and Only DL Whisperer and Baby.
We talked about the red flags look out for the
types of jobs that DL men tend to work at,
(00:47):
how to stay safe when dealing with someone who may
be on the lull, which is very, very very important
ladies and men. And get this, I don't know about y'all,
but I never heard about DL women, so we definitely
get into that.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And also let me know what y'all think about this
week's episode.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Last week, y'all really enjoyed the conversation to the point
where y'all were texting me child, So shoot me an
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Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, now get.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Ready because Part two with the DL Whisper starts now.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm gonna say another good point that you made is
when a man talks about his history and it's always inconsistent.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And I was like, that's a fact, right, because.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
The inconsistency is in especially any history, but especially in
relationship history, because me and don't just be sitting around
saving themselves for the right woman.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Let's be clear.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
When they can't give you history, it's like, okay, either
you will be in a whore, which is cool, just
be honest, or there's something that he doesn't want you
to know. And in general, if he's inconsistently, like especially
life history and relationship, if he just can't give you
any consistent information about him, that means that he's trying
to keep hisself mysterious. And that's usually what d o,
(02:06):
man dud, because they don't want you to know too
much because the more you know, the more you're able
to figure out. They're gonna be listeners. And if telling
you things, it's probably lies. That's always tell people when
you first, get with a man, it's okay to verify
some things that he's saying at first, because you need
to be able to understand that, Okay, he's telling the truth.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
That's how you build.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Aware of thaw to know when he's lying to you.
Because okay, he told me these things, they verifyed. I
asked them three weeks later the same question. He gave
you the same answer. We can assume that, Okay, this
is how he acts when he's telling the truth.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
He's normal.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
He gave a different answer, but he started fidgeting or
doing certain things. That's how I pick up on pattern
recognition because a lot of people don't do that. So
that's always telling like you got time to figure it
out before you get to the bedroom. Because if you
get to the bedroom with the DL man, you're in
love and you're.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Right. So that's all you gotta felt before the bedroom.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
At last, not least the number one red flag that
I always say, if a nigga loved being around his
nigga's too fucking much.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Boom right, Yeah, so being around the friends, especially, like
I always say, like, of course men spend time with
your friends, but if all of his free time is
spent the round. Men always late at night. He's under
the influence, any influence. Because I always tell a man,
this is something that you think about. When men are
getting drunk and high and doing all of this stuff together,
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they get horny, just like when he with you and
he get horny. So what you think happening when they
going to the strip club and they getting all this
ass shook on them? They just hard and horny going
home together drunk, Like what you think happening? Somebody giving
up something that's a fact. He ain't coming home but
you and fucking you Like you need to be thinking like, Okay,
this man been drunk, horny all of this thing, he
(03:54):
didn't a right so either a he cheating on you
with somebody. Let's always say like I never go straight.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
It's the man, but.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
It's something that you should be paying attention to. And
if he around his friends, because I've been a friend,
so ji, I got a bunch of straight male friends
that let them drink lean, right, letting them drink a
little lean or get a little so high. And now
you you leaning on me, and now you want to
slap yes, now you want to DoPT me up and
hold my hand and look me in my eyes.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I'm just like, here we go.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
If we go, you want to be so close, don't
like be touching on your girl, because most of the most
dyl men are gonna, like I always tell women, when
they're with you behind closed doors, you're gonna know that
they hate you or that they're not in it. They're
gonna be slamming shit always like you said, always unhappy,
always looking for some reason for you to not want
to be around them, so they can just go and
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you know, go do what they actually want.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
To do, or they can make up and excuse to
go be with their boys.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But does I think you feel uncomfortable when you're around
your street friends and you may pick up on something
and you be like, here we go.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yes, Because let's always tell people like men in general
are predatory because a lot of gay men they prey
on these straight men. But I'm like, these men, you
can't turn a man out, that's what me and aren't
being prayed on.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
They're they're literally playing bring it out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I was about to say some straight men, because if
you tell me that you're straight and then you're starting
to flirt and now it's like you're giving me all
of these mixed emotions that's predatory to me because why
you didn't just tell me the truth? Now I feel
like we built the friendship off of lies because you
had other intentions. That's why I say most men don't
really be friending people for real, Like most of most
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men pick friends based off attraction. That's why you will
see a man it's a group of tens, it's a
group of fives. Like men ink up based off attraction.
Like you'll see a whole group of fine ass niggas
and you on the wonder like how the fuck they all?
How all fine niggas ended up together because they all
looked at each other and knew they was all fine
and started building each other into it like a friend
(05:54):
group essentially.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Mm hmmm, because think about it, why do women?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Women will be friends with anybody like it is not
the fact Now I'm not gonna say someone women, but
most women aren't.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
You gotta look this certain way and you gotta yet
they're not because most.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Women not ugly. They just broke. So I agree, like
women would be around because we know, like girl, you
just need to do this or do that whatever. But
I do. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
If I see a group of a group of niggas
and they all find I'm like, come on now, something
they adding them because y'all.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
It's too much like it's clear that there's the attraction
is the basis of the friend shild mm hmm. Because again,
even men don't be fraend women either unless they're a
little bit gay.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
They got it.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I'm telling you, mark my words. If a man that's
always say and I always tell women to think about this.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
If you have a male friend, he's either gay or
you had the friends on him so many times that
he's just gonna act like he's your friend until you
get in a vulnerable moment and then he's gonna try
you again.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Yeah, because I'm like, think that men they're unless they're gay,
because again, men aren't thinking like that. Every every move
is based off attraction or if it's money involved. That's
why they're so transactional. That's why they're so easy, because
all you got to do is to have a little money.
Even in this process, like a lot of these niggas.
If women hit me up and I'm trying to figure
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out if they nigga to.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yield like some of them.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
If they tell me they man money hungry, I'll start
off sending dollar signs. Let's let's see how money hunger
you actually are. And some of them they go forward
immediately what because they that money hungry.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
That's all they say. If your man is too money hungry,
you gotta know them.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And it don't even they don't even be wanting a
lot one hundred dollars you and now you want a
video chat, now you possibly will meet up. You're trying
to send big pictures all of this. You willing so
gay for one hundred dollars. That's why I like, they
don't even be no big money like niggas gonna be
asking for thousands. That's why I say. And niggas don't
even realize. They be thinking, oh, only women can make money,
(07:53):
like y'all have the potential. But I mean nobody. Again,
men don't see they still how they actually are. They
try to vicariously live through women. That's why you'll see
men always trying to paint women off or get on
only fans or do something, or they'll have women in
the string because at.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
The end of the day, women fucking niggas while they
watch y'all.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Right, yeah, or they're cockling, yo.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
So that's why he's always men are always used in
women in some way, and those aren't men that love
women either, because you wouldn't be out here, like I
don't even want to because the word, it's the word
is exploits. But yeah, I guess everybody being explored in
some way.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, yes, stand the light y'all? Yeah, standing the light.
You know where that came from?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yo?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
What yow? Five has been a ship show?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And I feel like we're just getting started with all
these celebrity.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Drama and people just being exposed.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Like there's been a lot of right.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And then with the recent allegations of someone Yeah, like
it's just it's really fucking.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Crazy, right, I wasn't shocked.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I mean, I'm not shocked about anything no more because
we don't know these people.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yes, that's why I'm telling it's so many people that
I just be like, but I have tried to stay.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Some people people some people you people just.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Don't absolutely not believe it. So sometimes you're gonna have
that issue too.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
But people also have to learn how to separate the
art from the person. True, because I think sometimes people
get so caught up in the person are and what
they do, this and that, but it's like, this is
a real person who and we're not talk talking about
particular but like.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
People are fucked up. People like people like certain things.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
People have power, we have money, they have access, so
they feel like they invincible.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Exactly because I mean, you see that happen a lot
in the industry where people think they invincible, and then
we got one of the most invincible people and even
though nothing convicted, but wild.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
So that's why I was like a lot of this
and it's to me, it's always rooted in perversion and
sexual Like every time we get to the root of anything,
it's always something devient, perverted and sexual.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, I say, like.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Men are sexual preachers. That's why a lot of them
look at women. That's just sexual objects. That's why they'll
never love a women. They'll just sleep with a whole
bunch of them because it's just a whole just somebody.
Like I tell a lot of women, a lot of
these men just want to have sex with you just
so they can say, then I had sex with her.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
They they only having sex with women to prove something
to other men.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
And I always said, a lot of men hate women.
That's like vagina. Now what kind of careers are these
men in?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Because I thought this was fascinating because I also said
the same thing, and I agree with you on this one.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
So I always say male dominated fields, which are a
lot of fields, but just to go over like the
top ones, the d o man that I see, entertainment
is the top motherfucking field. And still following the entertainment,
whether there's radio, podcasting.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Vlog and twitching, adult.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Any anything under the entertainment umbrella because the people that
run entertainment keep that in mind.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
What's not male dominated. You got police officers.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Even when we talk about entertainment that involves sports too,
it's entertainment.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Music is entertainment.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
So all of these highly especially black because again black
dl started as a black thing, m hm. So it
started in these type of staces like rappers, a lot
of raps. So let's always say any male dominated states
that especially is dominated by black men, there's going to
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be a lot.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Of d oism involved. And then you got like warehouses
or rope then, so that's always caro on.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Try not to focus on the career is because it's
gonna be the warehouse worker all the way up to.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
The damn CEO.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Is you also too all.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Fraternities, Oh yeah, because that's not a career any any fraternities.
Fraternities are rooted out of being gay. Like when you
look into the fraternities, like you look into the brotherhood,
when you look into why they re formed, it's all
in being gay. That's why everything that they need. Now, Okay,
how they brand, Like fraternities essentially are a type of slavery.
(12:31):
Like it's it's it's literally like a a byproduct of slavery.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Essential. Like look how the Q dolls brand.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
They still when we got here, people used to brand
does Look how they do those humiliations acted which usually
be homo erroty. They do a bunch of homoerotic stuff.
They're doing all of these gay jokes. They're doing all
of this brotherhood where it's this level of we can't
say anything bad about each other, so anything that happens,
we got to keep it between each other. And I
(12:58):
didn't talk to too many people in fraternities to you know,
think that they're they're straight, Like it's literally rooted in
me and gay.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
They shower together.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
That's why I always tell people football players, think about it,
these men that went through their whole life showering, Like yeah, yeah,
at a certain age, you don't know what you're seeing,
but you also don't know that this is because think
about how people are just programmed, Like when you keep
seeing something, you keep building these bonds. Like that's why
a lot of men don't think about how men look
at women. They don't trust women to Oh, I can't
(13:29):
tell women my emotions, but they'll go tell men That's
always say, like, it starts with these emotional connections, and
then they start getting closer and closer, even in fraternities.
Like how many brothers do you know that really be
out here trusting women? Or do they only trust each other?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I would say both, But what is.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
It more of?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Because the women, like I always tell women, women are
going to be in rotation those brothers and those those
men that to me, most men have the relationships. Ever,
they give terrible advice to each other. They be hating
on each other, they be not wanting each other to succeee.
A woman can tell the man some same advice and
he's not gonna say kid, because he only values what
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a man is saying he don't respects men. So that's
why I say a lot of them they're bread to
think like that. Of course you have the alphas that
are leading the pack, but then the people that.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Are don't say that, they're not thinking.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
For themselves, Like think about it. Future is walking around
in the motherfucking person all of this woman is just
hiring all of these niggas, not wearing persons and doing
all of this gay shit that now they're like, no,
Future doing it, it's not gay. No, that shit is
gay just because Future started doing That's why I said
a lot of men are being like pretty much groomed
it to being gay. They doing all of this gay
(14:44):
plan like touching each other all gay because they're seeing
streamers do it.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
And you know, it's like there is that's been an agenda.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
That's why even like when you talked about slavery, and
you know, you talked about like STDs, like s tds
were put in the black community first, like we always say,
like a lot of these things were done to black people.
Like when you go back and look, we didn't have
a Brokeback Mountain for black people. There was no queer
movies where Black people were represented and we were showed
that we can love ourselves to and be gay and queer.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
It was never that white people had all of that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Any white movie, Like you know what I'm saying, So
white people that's always say white men don't have to
be deal because they've always been shown that it's okay
for them to be gay.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Because me cry died, I was like I was in.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Peel grade watching Broke Mountain.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's when I realized I was really really gay, Like
because I was watching it and I had to sneak
and watch it first of all because it felt weird
even but when I watched it, I'm just like I
always thought I would have that cycle love. That's that
wasn't even realistic white men getting that type of loove.
But it's the fact that it made me have hope
that I could.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's a fact.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
But when I watched Moonlight, what happened that made me want.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
A great contrast?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Wow, that that had me like I love my little
dr relationship that I was in because I'm like, I'm
seeing it in Moonlight, Like Moonlight, you know that hot,
that masculinity that because sometimes that's how Moonlight for me,
that's how it was for a while. That's why I
didn't see a problem in it, because it was like,
you get so deep with some people sometimes that don't
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you forget about the sexuality.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Of it all.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Damn and think I'm thinking about that actor.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
But look how long in between I was in fifth
grade and then I was a senior in high school
and Moonlight came out where I was just graduating high school.
So you got to think, like, That's why I was like,
it wasn't no representation, because even Moonlight isn't good representation because.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
It makes DL men look good. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. I like that.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I like the characters in Moonlight, but I didn't like
the fact that it was showcasing the dal on this.
But I get it because that's what a lot of
black men are going through. That's what it is like
when they went they bros, that's how close to it is, like,
that's the level that it.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Gets to a lot of the times. That's why I always.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Tell them if a man, how men get that close
and they can't get close to a woman like that,
he's not going to be with a woman. Yeah, and
they get that close. That's why I was like black
men don't don't think that they can be loved like
that unless it's about other men for the most part,
because they feel like a woman's gonna look at me.
You know how many niggas I do have cry on
(17:25):
my shoulder, some hard ass niggas. And he always say,
my girl would never let me cry, like she would
look at me differently. And I'm just like, but you're humoring.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
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to the show. That's why when I was in Paris
and I was at a lot of the gay clubs,
and I was seeing all these gay black men, and
I was just so happy for them because you can
(17:59):
just tell that they were just so they look free
and yeah, right, and I'm just like, I was just
like my god, like I only I can only imagine
what they might have to go back home.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
To, right, That's the sad part. And I mean I
do get them sympathy and grace back at the end
of the day two cares because I like, your family
is not the friends. You're gonna lose friends, but they
want your friends.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Your family.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Your family probably already knows your gay. So it's like
the self hatred is the part that they have to
in because that's the whole thing about DM man. They
hate themselves and then they project it and they come
into other people lives and they ruin everything that they touch.
So that's the bad part because it's a lot of
women that are being stuck with children that they probably
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wouldn't have had, being stuck with issues and problems mentally
that men have on set like because like I always
tell people, a DM man can drive you crazy. I
don't think people understand when I say that, but they
can drive.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
For a point that you only who are.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You break breaks.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
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just a man will drive you to the break of
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Speaker 4 (19:17):
So that's why always say you gotta gotta avoid them,
because I feel like there's so much like more mean
and worse to women because a lot of them are
with women because of society and they don't have the
balls to Like I always tell people, I was never
gonna lie and pretend and no, that was never gonna be.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
That's never been my personality.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Like I can even imagine if I had to still,
you know, be faking, or if I had to facing
act like I was truly sexually into women that wanted to,
you know, be with women. It's like, no, I love women,
but not like that. Yeah, and a lot of them
love women but maybe not like that, but they feel
like they have to because sometimes, like I said, whether
they're in sports stores, certain medias, you can't be getting
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like and I and I really hate that. How many
openly gay sports players do you know?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
None?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
We had one? Yeah, he kissed that man on that
draft and guess what, they talked him. He never even
got in the game.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
That was it. He got cut right after that.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
He got drafted and then cucked because why did you
kiss that man on national TV? This was some years ago.
It's not Michael Michael Stam. I think Michael stand. It
was an NFL player. He was getting drafted into the
NFL and he thought that he was gonna kiss his partner,
you know, I guess yeah, he kiss of them all
(20:39):
like he was pretty much letting them know that he
was openly gay. But that's what I'm saying, Like I
know football players right now, like even basketball players. I
was dealing with this basketball player. See that's why I
told you in college that he shows. I was dealing
with this basketball player and a football player. But basically
when the coach found out, they're on the jet and
they like, we heard that you mess around with this boy.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Da da da da da.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
The men don't feel comfortable to into the locker room.
They don't want you around them. So he had to
shower separately after everybody.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
He couldn't.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
They benched him, couldn't play anymore, and they pretty much
justisolated him until he eventually, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Just call there to quit.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
How did they find out.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Because basically the players saw me coming out. All of
the players lived like in this building, and they saw
me coming out of his even though you can't you
can't asston, but you see what I'm saying, Like that
he couldn't even be saw with a gay man.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Wow, they saw me coming out.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Of his place, and they just assumed that we weren't
even being essentially at the but he did want a house,
but it didn't happen. That was my whole point, like
just even I'm seeing me just put all of that
into motion.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
So it happened to his career. It just got that
was it?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Like maybe he was he never played again. I told you, like, well,
but then he blamed me after that that that could happen,
like you kept wanting me to come and I'm like,
if somebody see me, but in his hand and impulsive.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
He was from New York, so he wasn't even necessarily
thinking that how people in Atlanta think about everything, like
because there is going to be gay already, so they're
they're looking out for it and they're so let's always
tell people like I understand that aspect that in certain
careers you can't be openly gay.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, okay, So what are some of the things download
men often want in the bedroom that should raise red
flags with women?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
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any backshots.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
I always tell women a download man.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Okay. So I just made a video about this too.
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the middle, he gives and receives. In the bottom is
the taker. I would be considered a bottom. I led
a bunch of tops. I will say this, it's not
too many full tops. The full top is the man
that never gets any penetration. I've topped a lot of
full tops, so it's not a lot of full tops
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out here. What I say is that aintal tops love
backshots infallatio.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
That's gonna be the go to. They're not gonna be
able to get hard.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
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back or you're not giving them head, that's all they're
gonna want. Sometimes they're gonna want your back door, and
they're gonna be upset if you don't give it to them.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
But don't.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
If your man is a bottom, he's gonna want you
to always plan his back door. You're gonna be putting
bullets in it. You're gonna be you probably will have
to put a strap on. Always tell women when he
asks you to get this strap, that's it should be around.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That should be enough sign for you.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
That because I always tell women like you know how
that's still a cone?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Feel do you want that or do you want a
real thing?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Right?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
So, you need to be asking your stulf why you
keep putting this there's still a cone in him? Is
he gonna want to feel the real thing because he
has one feel, So you get what I'm saying. I'm
gonna want the real things. So like I always tell women,
ain't a straight man, And how you really figure out
if they's are really d l is because they're gonna
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try to put it in your heads on it because
they already know that women are on the lookout for
that type of stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
They're gonna test the water. So they're not.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Gonna tell you like I want to do an They're
gonna ask you stuff and kind of put stuff out
there to make you think you want to do it.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
You can ask them.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
And when you ask them, they're gonna say no, that's gay.
Then they're gonna get drunk and then they're gonna want
to do that anal stuff. And that's gonna show you
right there that aid their liars. And b they probably
already do it. Because when a lot of women be like,
what if I introduce it, you will If I want
women to know this, you will never be introducing a
man to probably much of nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Nothing. He already did it.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
If he's planning you to make you think that you
know he have I've never done it. So you can
then want to be the first one and feel special.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Don't mess with like, do you know how many niggas
I hear, Oh you're the first gay? Do what I
ever messed with? That used to be cute.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Until I realized, like, that's such a that's an easy
manipulation tactic. I was like, I was a little naive
because come on, the first, but you'd be.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
One of to believe certain sh it's so bad a.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Nigga that's been out here fucking all at this time,
I ain't about to be there. That's why I say
I had to realize who niggas actually were. M M
because I feel like that's who are a lot of
women messed up? They don't really know men because maybe
they don't have enough men around or they didn't like
always tell women you probably not a lot of women
either don't have brothers or their dad wasn't that active.
But you gotta have some men somewhere so you can
(25:37):
know more about men. Because a lot of women, when
I hear them talking about men, it's just like you're
completely off the money. Yeah, I mean like they don't
know men, even like with thinking old men. Like these
type of women or distance. It'd be like, Mmm, did
a man tell you that? Or you just assume that
because I'm like, women think about things from their perspective,
(25:59):
but you kind of have to be a man. That's
always till women. I don't try to think for women.
That's always ask women before I think or before I
make an assumption. I'll because I'm not a woman, so
I can't think for y'all. But I know about men
because I'm a man.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, yeah, why do you think so mean download men
have children with multiple women?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Because that's what I don't like.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
So a lot of that comes from for starters, they
think that they are invincible. They can't catch STDs, they're
not gonna use condoms, so it's a lot of condomalistics.
It's a lot of sex in general. So of course,
if you're having unprotected sex with a whole bunch of people,
it's gonna be able to produce babies, and a lot
of them want kids, so a lot of them will
try women.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Like I always tell women, if.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
You get the fact, you gotta be prepared that if
he see that you on your ship, or even that
you on the way to being on your ship, he
might try to trap you with a baby, because they
look at that as this is somebody I can rely on,
like if all else feels I got my baby, mamas
and right like man though, it's really like a combination
of tactics, Like some men literally just want that.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Some men it's because they're DL and they think having
kids like.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
So the fact basically all of those are not good
reasons though to have a kid with a woman, like
because they don't actually be wanting to partake in what
it actually means to have a kid. That's why when
you're going through that post hard them when you speak
the prive and you're going you have to think about
all of this before you have a kid, because these
DM men that can't give you an emotional connection, they're
(27:26):
not gonna be emotionally connected to that kid. So they're
not going to give a fuck that you're stressed and
you're tired, just like they're not gonna care about their
kid enough to help you out. So then that's gonna
put even more mental anguish on you. It's gonna be
a snowball because some of them also want to see
women doing bad, so they feel like, like I always
tell women when you have a kid, your life is
going to change. It's gonna be a lot harder to progress.
(27:49):
You're gonna have to work even more. So a lot
of these men know that and they want you to
have to have to work hardst So they're like, ooh,
let me do this.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yes, you play chess cause new bitches. That's why I
take my I'm taking my time, yo. I literally teld
my homegirl, I'm like, yo, I can't wait to see
what they're gonna get baby out of me because I
want I definitely want children. But I'm just like, it's
scary out.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Here, especially for women because y'all. They're not being honest
with y'all. That's the part that I hate because if
they would just be honest. Now, I do tho song
discreet men or closited men that will be honest with women.
But a lot of them know that women are not
going to take the risk, like did you not hit
their numbers, They're five times more likely to catch HIV,
(28:32):
seventy nine percent more likely to catch STIs if they
deal with men that sleep with men and women. So
they know a lot of women aren't gonna do it,
so they would rather take their consent.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Essentially, and assault people.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, because I think also, it's not that you're being gay,
it's that you're not being honest.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Thank you, and it's that you're being gay.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I mean I think I mean also gay because.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But you know what I'm saying, like gay is everybody's gay,
like it's twenty twenty five. But it's like, be honest
with me, like, do not force my hand with this,
because you don't know if I'm into that or not?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Right, And I feel like, like I always tell men
it's different body parts like you because somebody enough that
they'll stick it.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
In the man and they come home to fuck you.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Right, not even no shower, not even they just have
some baby whites and white dolls exactly exactly. But I
was telling a lot of men like they don't realize
that even with STDs, I'm like, women only catch STDs
for men. And I know that sound controversial, but if
it's women and women transmission is not that it's men
(29:37):
that are giving women STDs. So let's always say women
have to be extra careful because not only can you
have a kid, you can catch these STIs, these these
things that you can't get rid of. So it's way
more risky for women.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
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confront and download men because that's something that you strongly advise.
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Aggressive Like essentially.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Just like my life almost got taken, a woman would
be more susceptible to her life being taken, like I
had physically fights for my life. A lot of women
get physically beat up men, and they're not going to
be able to take on a man. So you're going
to confront a man with the biggest secret of his life.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
He's gonna protect that secret, baby protected.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
And a lot of them look at it.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
The only way I can say it is if you
can't talk, especially I say like with say not to
say his name, but with the boy he was, it
was more so like, well.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
You know the secret, so it's gonna know it.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I'm always I can't let you walk around knowing that
you know my secret. And it's that like I try
to get people to realize, like we look at sexuality
is such a meniscal thing, but it's that serious to
them that they will kill people and just go to
jail for the rest of their life.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
And it's been so many cases a women losing their
lives to these men.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Yes, and I don't think it's promoted enough though.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I was like, oh, we don't see that it was
because with secretly gay, we just woman got killed by man.
I'm like a lot of the time it be dl
men killing these women. There were dudes or people. They're
just not reporting that. My god, Yeah, they're going to
a rage because, like I always tell women, like when
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you start bringing it up to them, it's like all
of the thoughts that they bury, some of some and
some of it I feel like goes all the.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Way back to maybeighborhood.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, because like I always say, like that is a
big thing, especially in the black community, Like that's the
big thing. So you start bringing up all of these
things and it's like they're already fucking demented.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
And yeah crazy.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
So now you have this uncontrollable person with all of
these thoughts that they need help controlling, like they need
a therapist, but that's they're not going to ever do
for the most part.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
So now they're going to take it out on you.
And I always tell women they usually take it out
on women and not men. Of course not because it's easier.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
They know like a woman, you know, like I said,
when I did eventually start fighting him, like boom boom
boom boom boom, like black and Blue, like he was
beat the fuck like when I tell you, to the
point that they didn't even take no mod s out
of him.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
So that's all I was like, that's not going to
be the case for most women. You're not gonna be
the man black and Blue.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
So don't go out there confronting these men because you're
essentially saying, hey, take my life. I know that that
sounds harsh, but literally, they're gonna try to take your
life to keep a secret because again, it's so big
to them, because think about it, it seems so like,
really take somebody life over something like this. But it's like, yes,
they will take somebody's life over something like this, and
(32:36):
a lot of women just think that, like really like.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yes, yes, but if a woman is in a situation
where she feels compelled to confront him, what advice.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Would you give her?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
So, like I always told him, if you do have
to confront a man about anything, make sure you're in
a public space. Make sure people know that you're gonna
do this. Like I always say, like if I and
my women friends had to do this, I'm gonna be there.
I'm probably gonna be the one that related information. So
make sure you have support, especially from a man, because
this is the man. And anytime, like my female friends,
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they're a boyfriends and stuff might get aggressable with them,
But then I get on the phone and now he
got sense. I come in person. Now he got some sense.
So if you have man, make sure you got a
little reinforcement, preferably a man. Do it in a public place.
But like always tell him if you have to confront him,
that means that you probably know. So instead of confronting him,
(33:27):
get an exit, playing together because most of the yell man,
they're gonna be relying on you anyways, so you don't
need to let them know what you know, because then
that's when the baby started coming into play, when they
started feeling like you're trying to leave.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
That's why you gotta know what they're doing and just leave. Yeah,
try to stop you.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Then they're gonna convince you, oh, I'm not dl you
want to go through my phone. Now they're going to
be on the straight and arrow, not doing nothing like
I always tell you they cannot act on urges. Yeah,
and then a woman eight months later, Way, he ain't
done nothing in eight months now.
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He rapped back on.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
It because you probably worse how he started.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Right, So let's I always say, like, that's the biggest
thing I would say, not to confront them, but if
you have to, just do it and don't be confrontational.
Like I always tell people in therapy something that I
learned ice statements like I never tell people what they feel.
I always speak from a place stuff. This is how
I feel, this is what you've done, this is how
I feel like, not putting anything like you tell me
(34:23):
how you feel. I'm just telling you how I feel
because I feel like that does work better without making
people feel like you're accused in them of anything. Because
of course people get defensive. That's the natural reaction. You
feel accused of something, you're gonna get defense. The people
are onto your secret, you're gonna get.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Aggressed to it.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, how many women have came to you and just
said thank you for saving me?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
So many I can't even go how does.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
That make you feel? Because I love that.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
That's because I'm just like, it's working like it helps.
It helps because I always thought like what if it
doesn't help? Because the first time I ever tried to
do this, I think where I messed up. I was
just exposed in men and and I realized, like me,
as those the men that I dealt with, isn't going
to help women because what you're dealing with that man,
it doesn't matter. So then I had to like start
(35:08):
thinking like how do I truly truly help? And giving
out the information is how I figure it would be
most helpful because I think it does help. Like I
get women from Australia, Norway, Canada, like all over the
globe that hit me up.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Wow. And why do you think so many women internalize
that it's their fault because the man's actions.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Because a lot of women think that they can change
men and they feel like well, and it comes to
a little narciss system with them too, because they feel like, well,
I'm so great that he should have changed for me.
And that's always said to me. It wasn't in you.
You weren't the reason why he was deal. You weren't
the reason why X, Y and Z. So it was
nothing that you get bigger than you. So I think
(35:53):
a lot of people internalize it because they be with
these men and they feel like, well, a lot of
men DM men are going to break you down and
make you think that you should have done something differently.
That's because, like I always tell him, and they want
you to feel like at all times that you need
to do better to be right for them. Yea, that
treatment going where you're always doing going over the extra
(36:14):
mile to make sure, oh he loves me, or you know,
you're doing too much and he's not even reciprocating it.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Now, are there certain types of women who tend to
attract download men?
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And if so, who are that? Because this was some
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Download man's smiling.
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So the main one that.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I always talk about is the pic me, which is
the woman that the pic me shit, she's better than
every other woman, and he's gonna pick her because she
has this and that and you know, she's just so great.
And you know, women that's always go straight for the
pick me because to me, that that's the easiest to
distinguish because you start getting into like the women that
(37:01):
are going to be ride or die, That feel like
I gotta stand by this man no matter what those women,
like I said on our video, they usually end up
going through the most because they're trying to stand by
a man that is never going to change, and just
because they don't want people to have a perception, which
is a lot of women, because if a man is
doing you wrong, leave him. Why are you being right
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or out like for somebody that's doing you wrong?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
You have the Christian woman, let's talk about the Christian
women because a lot of Christian women, what they don't
realize is that a man will use your spirituality, your
belief in God or whatever you believe in against you.
He'll see them into that heavily, and he'll just act
like he's into it. Because again, women don't. I don't
(37:45):
think women pay attention because if a man is telling
you that he's spiritual and all of this, but his
actions show you otherwise, you should know that he's blind.
A lot of women don't realize, like a lot of
dl men live in the church too, like they're in
that's going to be a place there for sure gonna
be deal is it? So it's different types of women,
But any woman that's not sure for So that's what
(38:06):
I always say, Like, the biggest thing is if you're
attracting d ol Man is because you're like, so you
need to be sure of your stuff. You need to
have confidence, you need to know who you are and
not let a man define who you are. And I
think that'd be the biggest problem, like all of the
what those women have in common is they let men
define them.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Always say a man needs a woman to be complete.
Women don't really need men to be complete. Yeah, women
have to like it's way more power in a woman
being a woman than a man.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Like men aren't really I mean, yeah, think about it.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Most women really only use men for sincks that we
really gonna get technical. Yeah, the women be dll they
just don't want to be with a woman out right.
But it's like you don't really like men, you just
like penis.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Listen to my next question, which I was like, I
I never heard this term before, because.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
You also talk about download women.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
Yes, because that's something that we had to talk about because,
like I said, a lot of these women are trying
these men because they're just like them, Like download women
are hoghy, promiscuous. A lot of baby daddies. They're not
real joy. And again they're only finding joy and penis,
which is the right. It never works out. And I
have a lot of download women friends. They'll sleep with women,
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they'll be with women secretly, nobody knows. I know, so
I guess they're closeted women at that point. But download
closet it is still a thin line. They're not going
to tell a man that they're with. So that's why
I have to talk about download women too, because I
have to get women to understand, like when you do
stuff like that and at these Christmas parties and you
sissoring and bumping and slapping and you know, everything that's
(39:49):
going on that's download Like you go back home and
you act straight like nothing happened.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
I was like, men literally do that.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah, But do you think download women are judged differently
than download men.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Yes, because now old women like I always tell people,
you don't hear me bashed down low women.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I only talk about it because people ask.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
But it's different because download women aren't leaving women with kids.
The STD transmission is that women to women is so low,
So it's you don't hear about download women killing women
to keep rich. So I'm like, it's not as toxic
as men. So I try not to focus on women
because I'm like, there's enough people that go against women,
and I feel like the download women, they're not from
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what I see, from what I know, they're not hurting nobody.
Because if down you weren't hurting anybody, like people would
need to know. But of course I always do tell women. Now,
some men might not want to be with a woman
that's by sexual Yeah, so you are taking that away
because some I feel like if a's straight man, he
probably not going his women to be into men, I
(40:46):
mean into women.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I feel like a straight man only wants this woman
for himself.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
Thank you. So that's all I was like, It's.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
Like he not into no three, not into none of
that shit, Like, girl, you gotta take this that and
and be happy, and he's.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Gonna appreciate and build up the woman that he loves.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Let's always tell women like you don't think it's backwards,
like why would a man get what you? Women want
to tear you down and make you think that you're
the lowest person on this earth and every idea you
throw out, he thinks that it's stupid. Like, I'm like,
that would make no sense to him being with you.
He doesn't like you, and a lot of people don't
recognize that. Like, and I can always say, if a
man doesn't like you, it's probably not because of something
(41:23):
you're doing. He's probably around because you're he's using you
for something.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah, yeah, yo, we're almost finished. But I just thought
about this.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
So are the women who are paid to be beers?
Are they just as guilty as a download many part
in it?
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Well, I feel like this because some women are okay
with their man being by, So I feel like that
will probably be a woman that's okay with her man.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Being by anyways.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
But I think to me, I would if I if a.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Woman has to prefer, that's essentially your.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Man letting you know that he's into man and that
you're okay, and you know, it's kind of tricky. I
don't because I mean, is he down low? If the
woman knows, I feel like that's closetive. That's the way
we can kind of come into closet it because I
always feel down a man, the only person that truly
needs to know what you're doing is the woman that
you're sleeping with. It you don't have to do announcement.
(42:20):
I don't have no announcements coming out of the closet.
You don't need to come out of the closet for us.
But what you do need to do is tell a
woman that you're gonna lay down with Hey, I'm into
these things, right, But if.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
She's being paid to just to be to help him
with the cover up the deception, but he's still doing.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
His thing, okay, well, as long as he's not talking
to other women. That's always feel like closetive men, I
would not I probably wouldn't be here. Most men were
closetive where they didn't affect women, Like he's only sleeping
with men. Because if a man is only feeling his
perversion in all of his little devians with other men
that are down for it, I'm cool with that. I
think they do it for women and they're tricking them.
(42:57):
So that's why I say, like, if a woman isn't
being trigged, I don't think because honestly, download men hurt
people because of all of the things that they do
to hide. It's to keep it a secret, killing people, lying,
being manipulative, Like if they're with the woman and they
can be honest with her. I think that again, it's
not really down low, it's more positive, and I think
(43:19):
that would help.
Speaker 5 (43:20):
But most men don't have the money to pay a
woman to be a beard.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
What the celebrities do.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
Yeah, don't.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Sometimes I do be trying to make sure because I'm
like the average person. Like when I had to realize
that a lot of people told me they're like, listen,
we're not talking to these celebrities like we're talking to
these regularized niggas, Like we need you to calm.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Back down, Like you're right, but.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I can't get no basketball player booth, which I.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Realized because again I'm thinking, this is just you know, life,
but the DL shit is just different. That's why I'm
just like, Okay, I had to kind of bring it back.
But yo, So that's to me, the main thing that
women should be on the lookout for, so last one,
not least.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
So what type of man should women to be growing
off of?
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Simps?
Speaker 4 (44:10):
So I done a video about this, make sure I'll
watch it. Women need men that are the simps. Yes,
a simp can still be d I'm not saying that,
but simp is at least going to treat you properly
I feel like, and the men that I feel like
are balanced, because always tell him that men are never
gonna just be just all the way masculine. So if
(44:31):
a man is hyper masculine like that, you need to
watch him because it's the fun Like, go out to
the man that are balanced, like It's okay, he don't
have a little sast to them.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
It's normal.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
He was raised by a woman, and a man probably
got disass from his mama. So find a balance man.
Find a man that's actually into women, like I always
tell him with simps. Simps like women, and even if
they're faking, let at least a man that let a
man fake and treat you right, you'll eventually versus the
d o man that's gonna treat you terribly. They don't
even try to treat you right. So let's I always say,
(45:01):
like the simps to me or the men that women
don't want though, which I hate, Yeah, because they're not
going to be always conventionally attractive, I know, but you.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
Can work on that.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
That's why I say I always tell women though, if
you who you are, like you say you are, and
how you feel you are, you should be able to
bring any man to your.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
Level, not do you? I would want to say, do
you want to do that?
Speaker 4 (45:24):
I would lead and except something because I do think
a lot of women get tricked by d O men
because they go by looks. They love the aesthetics, they
love the lots good every time. You're gonna get done
in every time going by them looks every every time
because just like them, the best looking men know that
(45:45):
they look good. So they're already going to be narcissists,
that they're already going to be conceded. So then when
they have everybody coming at them, A lot of men
end up talking to men for attention and because they
can get men yeah, and they necessarily get that many
women and they realize, oh ship, like all of these
men on me like women women out only like this,
(46:06):
and they just become they start liking the attention. That's
why I say it all. It could start a lot
of different places. But ultimately.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
A lot of these men are gay, sadly, and I
hate that for the women because the we're the women's
gay bro, what are women gonna do? But I always
to trick them. Tell when you meet a man, let
him know I love bisexual man like I just I
just laateing a bisexual man. Go ahead and trick him
in thinking that you're into bisexual so he can go
ahead and tell you. And then that way you could
(46:37):
just ghost them because I'm telling you, men are easily manipulated,
like they're always manipulating. But you gotta be you gotta
be tense up here.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
That's why a lot of them don't tell women, because
a woman will tell them up front, I don't want
to be with a man that sends the men noble
like you love that, like I got gay friends. I
mean you be like though, because you're gonna mentally trick them.
They're gonna be Oh, she's cool with it whole time.
Just keep eating each your food on the day. Once
he tell you I've been with men once or I
(47:07):
like men cool, you know in your head one day
than done.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Listen scripture this confuse our enemy, child, because that's.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
What they're gonna do to you, like if you say
especially because most women up front tell men they don't
want to be a men that are into men too,
like they want to be with straight men. And I'm like,
that's the last thing you should say, because now he
knows that you're gonna take him off the list of
possibilities if he tells you the truth. So now he's
gonna definitely lie. Whereas it why didn't manipulate him just
(47:35):
a little bit? Because it's bad, but I mean I
don't think it hurts somebody.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, especially in the beginning because I'm up again, it's like, shit,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (47:44):
So let's always tell the men.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
Just know that men are gonna be manipulating you just
just a little, like don't lie about everything or you know,
but that that's a simple white lie. Yeah, I like
bisexual men, got no problem with it. Like I just
got dumped by one, so I'm looking for my nick
by pictual.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Man, right right.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
I get so much.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Stuff out of man from doing little stuff like that, because,
like I say, men are so easy and people think
they're so complicated. It's literally like reverse psychology with most men,
Like that's how they operate too, and you know how
when you're growing up, that's how men are. Just always
say men are easy. They don't change. Women just think
they're so complicated. Like, nobude, it's that tricky that you're
(48:25):
into by men. He gonna feel comfortable not realizing that
you're lying, and he's gonna tell you and then you
goostone period, he's gonna go on for the next. For men,
like I always tell the men, some women are gonna
be okay with you being by move on.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
If a woman's not okay with it.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
If you that like you are, I'm like, if you
that nigga, anyways, you should be able to tell a
woman if she don't.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Give a fuck.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
Yeah, But these niggas know they're not that nigga, and
they gotta lie and manipulate and they should be put
in jail for ship like that. But they ain't gonna
do that because it's gonna be too many niggas locked up.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Now this was a treat. I'm pretty sure they gonna
want you to come back on. Like, I'm so happy
that I found you and we connected because I really
do think that you are helping so many people and
not just women, but also encouraging men to live out
in their truth. So I really appreciate you so place
and everybody where we can connect with you and support you.
Because he is as sessions, he does power posch.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
Chown wellwything right. They want me to do a master class.
But so I am on every platform as the Doo Whisper.
So right now my TikTok is banned, but I'm everywhere
else Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, X deal whisper on every platform.
And I do appreciate you for giving me this opportunity
because this was a good conversation. Like you see, I
(49:46):
know it's so slower, but I like, I love conversations
like they felt like we were just on the phone.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I told you, I said, well, it's gonna feel like
we've been doing this for a thousand years. But I
really like, I am a fan of your work and
I'm so happy that we were able to do this
because this was so good, like super informative.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
I know the professional homegirls are gonna love this.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
So I really appreciate you for allowing me to be
a part of your journey and.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
Thank you for allowing me to come on and you know,
have this conversation with you.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
It through of course, and to listeners if you have
any questions of comments of concerns, I want to say,
hey girl, hey, please make sure to email me at
hello at the pahgpodcast dot com. Oh well, you know what,
I gotta update that because you know, now we rename
the shows Pretty Private, So y'all get that later, but
until next time. Everyone later, Yes, it was great. Pretty
(50:38):
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