SPOOKY SERIES: I Died and Went To Hell with Dominic Morrow

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Speaker 1 (00:30):
What's up, y'all?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
It's schugar ebene here and I hope all is cute.
Now it is time for our spooky season series where
we dive into real life tales that would make you
question everything you thought you knew about life, death, and
what comes after. First up is our story with Dominique Morrow.
Dominique was shot, pronounced dead, and what happened next is

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straight out of your deepest fears.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
He went to hell.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
In this episode, he opens up about what he saw,
what he felt, and how would change him forever. Some
of what he experienced would make you look over your shoulder,
or some of it would make you think twice about
the choices you make in life. So turn the lights on,
child and get comfortable. Because I died and went to hell.
Starts now.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
All right, to my guests, Dominique, thank you so much
for me on the show. How are you feeling, how
you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Thank you for having me? First and foremost say, we
keep in a push, and I feel great to be here.
Another chance I go say to get things right with
our father. I'm here so I'm just glad to be here.
Much appreciate you so we can spread the word.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
So thank you no, thank you, thank you, thank you
in first and foremost my condolences and the loss of
your mother.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Thank you, of course, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Thank you. That means a lot, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You know, I was really excited to have you on
the show because I'm like, I've been looking for different
conversations that have especially with men, because we do have
a men's series on the show. So when I saw
your show and then also you from a similar background
like myself, I'm like, oh, I gotta have him on
the show. But one of the things that you said
were you was a little nervous about sharing your story.
Why was that and how did your mom feel about
this story?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, the whole simple fact is because it was so
it's an ultra personal Okay, when you have a relationship
with God, whether it whether you have a relationship, but
with demonic things, a relationship is ultra personal. So a
lot of that experience, it's still taking me to grasp
it because it's so when you hit the realm with eternity,
things are so different.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Everything is not even close to resembling.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
But we think we know, okay, So it's it's it's
beyond the night marriages, beyond terrifying. And it's to the
point where I'm still unpackaging it to this moment. Literally
I sleep in three and four hour increments. I can't
bear it. It's just is is real. So I wasn't
too reluctant anyway, because a lot of people can't stand
the truth in the first place. Fact people, Yeah, and
a lot of people don't have the capacity to even

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receive the truth on that lack because either they're gonna
laugh at me or don't believe me. Yeah. My whole
purpose is, you know, I want to hear to drop
off the package. That's it. If they can take it,
they that's on them. If they don't, that's on them.
So therefore there would be no excuse whether it's ridden
in their hearts or they heard it internally or externally,
meaning from the inside or outside. They already been worn,
so there would be no excuse for no one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, when you told your mom about it, what does
she say about it?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Like?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Does she believe you?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh? No choice? Like, I mean, it's it's so come
from a family, very spiritual family. I mean, you have
the negative and a positive. But one thing about my family,
they know about the SuperNature, and they are very highly spiritual.
I'm not speaking of religion, but just spirituality period on
both sides of my family. But it's just it's certain details.

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Because everyone you probably experienced eternity didn't even know it.
You probably thought it was just a dream, probably thought
it was a nightmare. But I bet you everyone has
a dream that they have had before that they still
remember to this day. And they had a dream many
many years ago, but for some reason, you remember that
dream because most likely that was a message. You're not
a dream, you know what I mean? And when you
sample eternity, you can never look back. And my mom

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has definitely so and just her supporting me regard list. Yeah,
I mean, you know, we support our children. I hope
everyone does. Don't ever know case right?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
You know sometimes.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
A lot Oh you have no I get it, trust me,
I get it. But no, definitely have support from not
only you know, just my mother, but just my whole
community itself and my family itself. You know, because where
I'm from, Chicago is excuse my language. I love it's
a beautiful city, but it's a hell hole. I mean
where it is, it is where it is. I'm just

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saying that people they don't get it. They don't live there,
they didn't grow up there, then they don't get it.
So it's not I'm just not being judgmental. I learned
a lot there. I mean, that's what you know. You
can't learn things unless you have resistance in the environment
I grew up in. You know, we had the wrong superheroes.
Put it that. Put it like that, we had the
wrong Rold models. I was looking up to wrong people.
You know. I wanted money. You know, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
When you're growing up in an environment and poverty.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
You're looking up. You just want to get out of there.
You want the money, you want to street credit, you
want all of this stuff. So I was looking up
to the wrong people earlier, you know, and that's when
it took off. Because in Chicago, pretty much you you
have to be connected. Let me put it that way.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
If you're in a certain neighborhood, you.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
You just because I have friends in Chicago. So you
can't just be in certain areas and think think things
are sweet, like you got to make sure you know
you're you're whereabouts and who to connect exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
You got to know the language so that district you
in you gotta know how to dress, you gotta know
who's teams to wear with teams not to wear. Yeah,
so it's just it's it's it's uh yeah, Chicago people know. Yeah,
we were looking up to the wrong things, wrong places
and the wrong people. Like literally, that's all that was.
And me having a multicultural background. You know, have Kubano

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West Santiago must left. But the fact is you have
half and half people who believe in Santurrio. I don't
know if you ever heard of santurrio before. It was
actually started in the Southwest Africa, and it was when
slaves were studying or were worshiping principalities. I'm just gonna
get straight to the point. They're worshiping demons. It's non

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principalities are centriio, okay. And but when the slave trade
came and we got put into slavery, it we're still
practicing voodoo, but the under the guise of Catholics. Being
a Catholic, that's why you have all these saints, but
they were really worshiping the non principalities. And then it
became Afro Latino because we're Afro Latino. So it comes
from Africa. But the food is still the voodoo. That's

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all it is. And you make certain sacrifices and certain
things to get certain things from these demons, whether if
you want money, power, relationships, whatever you want. But there's
a price to come with it. Period. It's a huge price.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
But people don't get it.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
They don't get it.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
And you was exposed to this because, if I'm not mistaken,
one of your interviews, you mentioned how you were a
part of a ceremony.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, yes, plenty of ceremonies. I just didn't I couldn't comprehend.
It's like when a young child goes to church, they
just want to get out of there. They're not paying.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Attentions, like come on now.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Get out of here, right, So it was normal for
me to go through these rituals, not knowing it was ritual.
I thought it was just a family, you know, we're like,
come on, I just want to get out of here.
A lot of ceremonies. Would you become a portal so
to speak, a lot of these things I don't even
like the name of because if people like to mess around.
Even though when you name these certain principalities, they pop
up in your life demons, they will pop up like this,

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they will show up, So I don't even play with
their names.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
There's certain dominique.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I don't even do that. What are you gonna do?
I feel you. I'm with you, cause there's nothing to
play with. Principalities are real, The spirit world is real.
Eternity is definitely real. Everything is housing eternity. But people
can't be contact that, like comprehend that. It just like
for example, if you was to ask somebody, think about forever,

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could you imagine forever?

Speaker 4 (07:55):
No way?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Could you imagine forever? Right right, there's no way. So
a lot of us we have to do peace by peace.
That's why it's called the word knowledge. There's two words
in one word knowledge no ledge, Right, you have a ledge,
I mean it's it's a cliff, But in knowledge, there
is no ledge. You're just going them. So every time
you graduate, you're just a freshman on another level. Graduate,
you're a freshman on a nothing. But it's always eternal.

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This journey is forever, you know. And one thing about
these principalities and these demons are enemies I like to
call them, is they don't want us to see that.
They want us on loop they want us to go
straight to Hell. They don't want you to believe. They
want you to believe that Hell is not real.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's a fairy tale or either Hell is a party.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Literally.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, a lot of these atheists speak, you know, and
we have good conversations.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I don't like to debate people. You have your own
belief you're gonna get jut that's on you. They come
with all of this cockiness like it's not funny, but
it is. It is. I'm not gonna say that this name,
but he's a big atheist. He goes around God. Is
this not a lot of that doesn't exist? But he
got punched straightening the mouth. The first thing he said

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was oh God, wait a minute, no no, no, no, no,
no no, I'm telling you I had I actually helped
them because he was going to catch more than that.
Like literally, hey, the first thing he screamed out for
it was God out of reflex. See, that was the

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whole that's the whole point of it, because it shocks
me us. We were just talking about he he don't
believe in God. As soon as he was in trouble,
the first thing that comes out of his mouth was God, right.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Now you want to you want to call him name.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, that's that's my point. People use our God as
not an ATM machine. He's not there just when you
want to use him. I ask people all the time, Hey,
it comes to this Bible study with me, let's do this,
let's do that. Oh no, no, they're so busy. But
before they got a court date, guess what they call him?
Could you know what I'm talking?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Calling on God's point?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Then they go to the hospital course and all this
because you pray for me, and now you want to now,
but then just say you get out the situation and
you get right back to your normal patter.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
You forget all about what our father did for you.
You see what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
He's like, we're using them, yeah, directly or indirectly.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
So it's just it's crazy. It's crazy how that works.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Was there a particular ceremony that you saw, because I
know you said in your upbringing you was always searching
for God or Christianity. Was there a particular ceremony ceremony
that you witnessed a young as a young child that
really put.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
The fear in you.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Actually it was backwards. I used to laugh, at Christianity
literally because I thought I was my own God. You've
heard of that before, right, yeah, everybody their own God, everybody, right, Yeah,
I was. I was one of those people, because that's
what sinsuria makes you believe in the first place. Too.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
There is a higher source, that's what they call, especially
these New ages.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
It's the same thing, new age, all of the santory
and the same thing, just a different clothes on same person.
It's unpromising. So one thing that people don't realize that
I had to start realizing is that wait a minute,
I used to those Jesus facts. I used to roast
people that even believed in them. Right, This is when
I was on the other side of the fence. This
is I hit eternity. See, that's when I met him,

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the Lord. Literally, like I get it now, it makes
complete sense. But at first, no, you wouldn't. I was.
It was the opposite. Christians to me was a byword.
It was they were funny to me. And just like
this thing this happened with the rapture, this thing that
just happened. That makes our jobs harder for those who
believe in Yashua wall Is because everybody think we're a
joke now that believes in Yashua will because all these

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people believing instead of reading the scriptures and having a
true relationship, believing they was gonna disappear, They gave they
caused houses, quit their job everything. Did you hear about that? Yeah, exactly,
It's just it just amazes me. But also I wanted
to speak upon how when I was in the lifestyle,
of course I joined the gang, I'm not couldn't even

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give them big ups on which gang I was in.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I feel as I know which one you were in,
even though I know you're not gonna say, I don't
want to give them no I know, I know, but
I feel like people who are really deep and like
intellectual and like love God and stuff, they always come
from this organization.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, because you know what, people don't get it in
the politics of gangs in Chicago. First of all, it
all started with religion. It was all based on political
religious movements ocay. It was never meant to be what
it is now, not even close. So in each gang
in Chicago, there was literally literature that's based off either
the Krond or the Bible facts hands down, so there
was always a spiritual element to it. You know what

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I mean. So that's why it's no surprise when you
say that. Usually people from my organization that I used
to be in usually tend to have be more spiritual
because I actually believe it or not, there's a lot
of spiritual principles inside the gang unit itself. Yeah, that
makes sense, that makes complete sense. But growing up Chicago,
you know, I want the money. I was you know,
I got pretty good at it. You know, I was

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abusing the gift that the father gave me, but I
was using it for the dark side. I was very
good organizational skill.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Every game members are project managers.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, I'm talking about you can run a fortune five
hundred companies. Yeah, gene, it forces you to. It brings
the best out of you, but you use it for darkness. Though,
I know some genius sits out there on the street.
I know some real that if they use it for righteousness,
they would be none to be played.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
With, especially these infamous drug dealers. I'm like, wow, like
making all this money, yeah, super.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Smart, super smart, But they're killing people. So that's the downside,
you know, unfortunately. But and that's what you know. I
got pretty good, but didn't know during the years the
better do you do. You know, you get hats that
power up, you start getting people. They be smiling in
your face, but all the time they want to take
your place, all them right, And I was so young,

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But I was so young. I was good at what
I did for you. I was good.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Oh when I was joined, it was eleven. I was
eleven when I first joined.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Wow, eleven. Yeah, in fact, I was eleven. And yeah,
it's don't matter at home.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
It don't work like it works, you know. And you know,
like I said, my mom put me through a lot
and muscle up to my mom, and she put me
through a lot.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Now, I wouldn't be who I am if I wouldn't
went through She put me through hell on her because
she had she was addicted to drugs. Yeah literally, yeah, yeah,
she was addicted to crack cocaine. And that's what actually
forced me to join the game because I was sicking
people selling them my mom that stuff. So when I
joined my whole neighborhood, she couldn't get no dope from
nobody because it was that was.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
It was a no go, it was a no flies on.
After that, anybody was called selling to my mom.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
They had a problem did sobriety.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
No, what did pushed up to sobriety was when I
forgave her. What the endemy did was compound. And I
want people to overstand and understand this. It puts you
in a circle and put you in a loop. So
your guilt for doing bad and hurting your children or
hurting your family member or hurting your friend would bake
you do more in the loop so you don't feel guilty. This,
whether if it's an addiction or whether what it may be,

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it would keep you in that state. All I feel
so bad. Forgive, I give up, and then you don't
want to give up. This shame, the guilt keeps you.
So she was stuck in that cycle. But once I
got saved and I knew truth, forgive it. And once
I as soon as I forgave her done, it was.
She was done. She was sober over twenty some years.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh good God, bless her.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Hey man, No facts like soon as I forgave I
noticed that soon I truly forgave her. I know she was.
I know for a fact she was. And that's why
a lot of people, you know, that's why now I
don't take nothing for granted. No, relationships. I'm not gonna
take for granted it either it is or what's not.
You know, we can't keep you know, because we're not
promised the next five seconds. Yeah, you're not promise anything.

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Nobody don't promise anything, you know. And I wish and
I did talk to my mom before she passed away
that day. Could you imagine if you knew, If I
would have known that was the last time I talked
to her, I had plenty much more to say. I
would have had so much more to say.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
That's why we can't take people for granted, because.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
You never know where you gonna see him again. Thomas
too short. It's so short. It's so short. That's the understatement. Yeah,
it's such a clear understatement.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
So I just want people to don't take anything for granted.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, don't take anything for granted.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
So who was the guy that shot you?

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Like?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Did you know him?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Like?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Was this somebody that you thought you was cool with?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Or oh he was in my same organization And of
course him and his family and everybody that's my point,
are the people I hope when they was locked up,
I was supplying helping their families out, Like all these
people I put my loyalty through the whole time, all
these years, they was applying to pop me off anyway.
They was always jealous to me, always and then when
embarrassed him because I was way younger than them, but

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I had more access and I have more status than.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Them, so that already built up a lot of animosity.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I mean, I was like fifteen years old when I
was really into it, and you got people thirty forty
years old and they was under me, so that already hurt.
They pride as a man off top. They already they
had plenty of chances to do what I did, but
they were just lazy. They weren't focused, they weren't confident.
They just wanted to kick it all the time instead
of focusing on the business aspect of things.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I thought this was a random guy.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
No, See, that's what makes it worse. That's it's always
be people in the inside that will get you before
a stranger. Will I promise you that that's facts to facts.
But I do want to make it clear. That's like
I even put it in my third book. I want
to thank him because he actually took my life, but
he saved my life. So I want to give respect
from Crenos to his family. I had nothing, Like I say,

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he's no longer with us. He passed away from his bag.
But that's he.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
I ain't had nothing to do with it. I can
tell everybody.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
We haven't heard.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Somebody killed him.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Somebody clapped him out. That's the street. That's the street. Yeah,
it's just a matter of time. I'm telling you. I
haven't seen a successful game banker make it past twenty
thirty years with a successful game banking career at home. Never.
It's a matter of time, you, I'm telling you. It's horrible.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
So walcome through the day when you were shot.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
It was in June two thousand and nine. We just
got back from out of town, me and my best friend,
and it was the weekend. And I will never forget
because we always go shopping new clothes.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I know you was outside.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I was outside. I was outside side you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
No, I know you was outside. I know how y'all
give it up In Chicago. You were young, You're running
stuff like, Yeah, I know you was a problem.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, because I never forget because we just came back
from Kansas, because that's when we used to travel. Unfortunately
making our money. We used to go. So we come back,
we go shopping.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
But Chicago's so big, Like in my district's over five
hundred thousand people.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Nor Pole, Chicago Uptown, there's over five hundred thousand people
in that district. So if you see a person, it's
gonna be unlikely that you see him again, Like unless
you know them, you're meeting up with them. Just don't
randomly see You go to one part, you see a person,
then all of a sudden you see the same person. That.
It don't work like that. That would no not district

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go not in the Chicago period because it's so big.
So we go shopping and I can never forget. It's
just the vibe and my stomach. I want people like
I always tell them to follow their first mind. Follow
that's one thing my mama taught me too. But that's
the Holy spirit. You gotta follow your gut. Because when
I saw this dude, we went to the gas station
at first to go grab some blunts and stuff, and

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I saw this guy. He's sitting on the car and
it's just something he's looking and he's like, Oh, We're like,
all right, what's up? Pay no attention. We go to
the store to it's called City Sports. And we go
shop and get some shoes and little stuff. I'll come out.
The dude's on his cart, sitting there again. I'm like,
wait a minute, the way this dude, yeah, there's no way.

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See he just popping up everywhere we at. I saw
him three saw.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I said, wait, he making his presence known.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, especially the second time. I'm like so. I turned
to my friend, like, Yo, this dude following me. Man,
he's following us.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
My man is like, yo, because were smoking a lot
of weed. We was paranoid.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
He said, I'm paranoid because I was high here. Like, dude,
you ain't that important. Nobody drawn off you like that.
I show it off. We laughed a little bit. You know,
all right, maybe you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. Well,
hours go pass like I say, and we get dressed
and get lit for the club, and everybody happy. We're
going down staff on him. We come out. My guy's
hollering at girls in the lobby.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Before we take off. This guy's in front of the gate, chilling.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
At the gate. I said, all right, they won't even
paying attention to me. I was like, yo, I'm about
to go check this guy. Temperature because I just got
to ask him where he's from. Like, do y'all know
this guy right.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
The same game?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah? Hold up, but let me tell you it's interesting
because he is for the same game, but from a
different side. So they commissioned somebody from the different side of.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Town to take you out.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, exactly, literally, so.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
You know this is giving a movie right now.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I'll come out of telling my guys. They talking to
the girls in the liby said they paying attention, but
they ain't paying attention to me. I'm like, man, I'm
going out. I'm gonna go check this guy temperature to
see where he's from whatever, because I ain't nowhere. I
keep seeing this guy all day. So I come out.
I'm about to listen. He looking at me. He got
a cigar in his mouth, He had a roll blown
in his mouth, and he would never forget. He said, Yo,
you got a light, so a lighter. So I'm going

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in my pocket. As I'm digging in my pocket, I'm like, yeah, yeah,
I got you. But as soon as I was about
to ask him, where are you from? Like where do
I know you from? Like I'm just asking as I'm
digging in my pocket, as soon as I looked up,
it was a green flash. I didn't feel nothing. It
was just like a So it looks like a neon
green flash. That's what it looked like because it was
almost dark outside but not dark outside. So I clearly

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you can clearly see the flash. And I didn't feel nothing.
I just look everything, stop everything. He was just like,
for real, you're talking about a movie. That's an understatement.
I looked down because you got it. You can't register.
It happened so fast. I wouldn't even think, like, you
know what I'm saying. But as I look up, I'll
never forget. He had this grin on his face. What's

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that movie? It was this smile. It's this movie. Yeah,
I'll never forget because he did the first time, because
I got shot twice. He hit me and then he
had this grin on his face. That's what it reminded
me of. It was like it was the monic. He
hit me again. Got now the second time? I felt

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it when he hit me the second.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Time, where did he shut you at my stomach and my.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Top right leg almost by my grown under my thigh,
literally and if that would have been a little bit
sentimeter to the right, it would have hit my main
already I have been it wouldn't have been no chance regardless.
Oh wow, fact, so look he he hit me again.
It feel like the force if you if you ever
been shot, they know what I'm talking about. It's the
force like if you close range you feel it. It's

(22:45):
like somebody pushed you so hard. I couldn't even But
this is where it gets creepy for me. This is
where everything changed to me because as I started falling back,
but at the same time I was falling forward. I
can't explain. That's the That's when it's are getting weird
because I know I'm falling back, but yet I'm falling
face down at the same time.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Or your body was falling back.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
But yeah, but at the same time. It's hard to
even explain because there's some things that happen in eternity
that you can't explain here.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
There's no language for eternity. I'm telling you after experiencing.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
That's why the Lord say be a living everything you're
talking about living word living example, right, living, living, living,
because our father only exists in eternity as an eternity.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
As an expression, it is so complicated. There's no language,
but living it and experiencing it, that's the language of
the universe's experience.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I'm falling back, but going forth. I can't even it's
hard to even explain it. But as I'm looking, I'm
falling now. The first thing that I felt see one thing.
When you're out of in you and your spirit body,
you know everything. What I mean by that is you
know that you knew that you're supposed to know that,
you know, you know everything. As I'm in this darkness,

(23:57):
That's what gripped me. It was literally keep telling everybody
it was alive. It's the darkness that is so dark.
It's not like dark hair you cut off all the
lights and blindfold just to do it. It's alive.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
The fact that the senses and stuff is and your
memory is so vivid. That's something else that everybody keep
saying that when they were if they have a near
deafer experience, their senses don't leave like they remember everything.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
They get heightened. Actually times a billion. You see people,
you don't lose any senses. You can still smell, hear, touch, taste,
but it's times of billion. That's the best way I
can describe it. You're like a superhero, literally you and
your spirit body. You can see an atom. If you
can stare at something, you can see the atom in
it if you wanted to. That's how detailed your eyes
can see and how you look everything it is. But

(24:43):
this darkness is unfalted. It's faster than the speed of light.
I'm just telling you, and I keep telling everybody this.
They say, what's fame? Nothing faster than the speed of light. Yes,
it is. The speed of thought is faster than the
speed of light.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So were you falling into purgatory or did you actually
go to hell?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
They don't exist the purgatory. Let me tell you. People
need to know this. They trick you. There's no waiting room. See.
I didn't even get a chance. I didn't get no
chance to talk to the father to plead my case.
It happened so fast. I was just it's like me
and you talking right now. Then all of a sudden,
you in eternity like that, like it's no, you stand

(25:27):
in line, get your number.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
No where from? You say, what where did that come from?

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Who was they the demons?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
So where did that come from? Where did purgatory come from?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Like?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Why did we? Everybody always say the Catholics.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
The Catholics, okay, they they hijacked, they made Christianity. It's bogus.
They do everything opposite. I've been calling people out. They
a lot of people have good hearts to the Catholics.
They just in the wrong organization. They're just worshiping in
the wrong way. Because everything Catholics do is in Obama Nation.
The Lord clearly says, don't worship idols. What do they do?

(26:03):
Pray the statues? Right? Hold on the law also says,
call no other man father right? What do they do?
Call you the priest and them my father? He says
no man can cure it. Take away sens and said,
odd father in heaven. What do they do? They go
to the faith father and he said, you click your
here's three times, takes some beads, eat the cracker, and
your sins are forgiven, my son. What what they do?

(26:28):
Everything backwards? They do everything our Lord says not to do.
So that's where that comes from. And also the Council
of Nicea, y'all can look it up for yourself. The
Council of Nicee, I do believe it's three twenty eight
AD through three thirty five. They took a handpick and
wrote the Bible and edited and took books out put
stuff in it. Yeah. Yeah, So the Catholic Church is
responsible for a lot of misleadings, a whole bunch of

(26:52):
things that people need to research for themselves. So yeah,
Catholics are responsible for the I call it the waiting
room theory. Ain't no, no, no, no no, when you pass,
that's the way it is, either your hero. There, ain't
no middle nothing. Yeah, I ain't nothing, none of that.
So people can talk what they want, and I hope
they don't experience why been, But it's only two options.
Ain't no waiting room. So everybody going to experience death.

(27:16):
That's one thing.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I can guarantee. Everybody's gonna die, right, So ain't nobody.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Can escape it?

Speaker 1 (27:21):
So they feel like he was going through a portal.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Actually that's a great description. But as I'm falling, this darkness,
it was a lot. It was in me. It was choking,
it was just going through. But it's the worst despair, loneliness.
Did you. I can't even describe it, And it's like
when it was in you. I'm falling, it's going through me.
It was wiping out everything that I had inside me
good like for example, we don't know how like hope

(27:46):
that comes from the father, laughter that comes from the father, right,
the sense of security that comes from the father. Everything positive.
You realize there that our father, it is a gift.
It's not a right, it's a gift, and wander on it.
But that darknu was there and it was taking it
out of me. The best way I can say is
the fares the fast I was falling, the more this

(28:07):
darkness was just making me feel, it was eating. It
was taking everything out of me that was positive. That's
the best way I can describe it. As unfollowed.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Do you believe there's multiple portals in the world?

Speaker 3 (28:18):
They open them up right now, even biblically. The Bible
even talks about portals. We were talking about earlier today,
the Book of Revelation. People need to really take it literally.
This is it's not metaphors. No more. Portals are opening
up all over the place. People create portals they don't
even know in their own homes directly and directly. People
watching vibrations see everything is prob okay. So if you whether,

(28:42):
if you think it's just entertained. Even the word entertained
meant entertained means intercontained to enter something and it contains you.
So anybody said, oh I can watch all of this
and do all of this I want, it's just entertainment.
You open it up portals. When you're listening to certain things,
when you're watching certain things, you get permission. That's why
demons have a contract too. They have to tell you

(29:03):
what they're doing to you directly on indirectly before they
harassh you right directly or indirectly. They gonna say, I
told nah, they belong to me, because we already they
knew it was. They knew what they were doing when
they was watching this. They knew what they were doing.
They were doing what they were doing. That's why they
always got to give you. So when I say even
opening up portals, it's so many different levels of portals.

(29:24):
You know, you have spiritual portals where people's personalities is
getting taken over, or you have actually physical interdimension portals
that are opening up all over the world right now,
where you got stuff coming in and out. That's why
I tell people they know such thing as aliens, these
are falling angels. You are. All they doing is plain people.
They back in the day they were superheroes. They was gods.

(29:46):
They just changed their names. But it's the same fallen angels.
It's the same ones. Now they new one is aliens.
These things are not intergalactic. They're interdimensional. That's why when
people see these things, they can disappear. They can just go,
you know, they give it said, oh they can travel
anti gravity propulsion systems. No, they interdimensionals. They open up
a portal that quick. And that's why you can see thinks,

(30:08):
what ghosts do, what the demons do? That hung houses?
You can see them and then all of a sudden
they disappear Richards right see, because they interdimensional, just like
these quote aliens. They're interdimensional. So we've been lied to
about so many things. We've been going off his story.
And so the word history means it's his story. Who
is he? It's not the truth his story? Who is he?

(30:30):
Why are we trying off his story? What is the truth?
Is he? Yeah? Who hired this guy? Who is he?
I want to know? Say, yeah, we just been misled
and I learned that when you pass away, I promise
you know all these things. You know all these things,
and like we get back to it, like I'm talking
about the senses of heightened. What God means not only
I'm already it's there's no words to describe the horror.

(30:51):
The longliness is beyond right, just pure darkness. But the smell, Okay,
I keep telling them everybody, the smell of hell, if
it was unleased for not even the thousands of a millisecond,
you would die.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Your body wouldn't be able to take it to everybody.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
If you release one little pinsure that smell, I can't.
The smell is even alive. Everything has a spirit behind it,
you know. That's why the Lord said, be very careful.
I'll tell a lot of different cultures. They worship different elements.
There's no different than wickeds. You worship in things.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
The Book of Rombas clearly say that you worship in
creation instead of the Creator.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
That's blasphemous, that's bogus. That's why. But they do have
a point because behind these things like the wing spirit,
the tree spirit, No, those are just demons. Those are
real principalities. See, if demons came the way they really look,
and they can't the way they are, you wouldn't do
business with them. That's what they all. Yeah, exactly, So

(31:49):
that's why what it also says in the scripture, they
come as what disguises themselves as angels of light, disguise
themselves because if you ever see how they really look
and really smell, you would not go into any covenant
with any kind of spiritual contract with these things.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Can they look like.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
WHOA? Okay, the best way I can. It looks like
a lot of them look like feces by them sol
the formed literally bodies twisted, sol the formed. But one thing,
they have a reptilian theme. That's what I noticed in Hell.
A lot of these things are so big, literally over
twenty feet tall, eighteen feet tall, seventeen feet tall, and

(32:27):
then you have some as small as my mouth there literally,
And to me, the smallest ones are the worst ones.
They look like little myths. A lot of people call
them shadow people. I call them the little guys, and
they the worst ones because they the ones who frequent
interdimension of me. They get orders and they come up
here and they bring heavy They come to this dimension,
they go back to Hell, get orders, come back and
if they lose from you, they go get recruits. Because

(32:50):
some people got two demons that harass them.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Some people have sixties, that is scary.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah. Everyone, there's no exemptions from it. Everybody especially. See
one thing that Lucifer does. He tries to be like
our father, because our father knows the end. From the
beginning period, our father is now he's everything right now,
Lucifer is always trying to mark. He tried to be
like our father. So what does he do. He's an
artificial omnipresence. Why you think this whole new Royal Order

(33:16):
system exists. It's an artificial omni presence. They're gonna have
a whole system where you always monitor correct everything that
you do is already lock. That's the fake omnipresence' that's
an artificial and Lucifer runs this whole system, so everything
is always a copy. He's always copying. Now. One thing
I want people to truly realize is that they call

(33:36):
familiar spirits and monitoring spirits.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Can you explain the two with that, because I feel
like those terms have been like everybody's been using them.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, okay. A familiar spirit is a spirit that's been
passed down for generations. Oh have you ever heard of
a family curse before? A generational curse? Yeah? Familiar That
means familiar is because They know your whole lineage. They've
been there for a long time, you know what I mean.
They know your ins and outs, they know how what
you'd like to eat, they know how much sex you like,
they know what they need to do. All of this stuff.

(34:06):
They just like reporters. They're familiar with you and your
family and your existence, and they always nuts stuff so
you can stay in the dark. They just do little
stuff behind the scenes. See one thing about demons. They
can't make us do anything, but they can influence us
and then blame us for it. Why do you think
Lucifer's called the grand and the greatest accuser because he'll
set you up and hen say, eh, you know this

(34:27):
say for educational entertainment purposes only. Just imagine if you
was to somebody you you and Lucifer, he comes to
you and say, hey, let's rop this bank.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah, he can help you get away, drive everything. But
as soon as y'all rob the bank, he'd be the
one to call the police on you.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Helped you do everything. Do you see what I mean?
He will help you shoot yourself in the foot, so
to speak, and then blame you and then snitch on you.
That's what I'm saying they demons. They are created here.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
It starts off all these people be worshiping demons, do not.
It starts off grand.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
All these wickends, all these people new ages and crystal
worshiping people, all of this stuff, and then listen to
their hall the stories. That's time passed. I'm telling you
that they would give you peace and all of this,
but it's artificial until they start needing payment back. They
need payment. Every Body don't know it is real. All
these people would star. You know, stars, isn't that something

(35:21):
star equals That's the word for demon. By the way,
that's why you got the hollyweird or Hollywood. They call
them stars, don't they? But the stars falling angels were
consider the falling stars. They're the ones that fell from
their estate. They call stars. No coincidence. They put everything
in front of our face on purpose.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, I do believe that that is true.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
That right.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
So what is a monetary spirit? What's the difference with
that one?

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Okay, now, a monetary spirit, they the ones who truly
throw the loop. The familiar spirit is the one that
assigned to you and your family literally, well just you,
because you have fresh familiar spirits that start from a
whole new generation that starts generation curses. They all got
to start from somewhere or some of them passed down
and your family. You notice your family got the same problems,

(36:08):
same stuff generation at the generation. That's a familiar spirit. Now,
a monetoring spirit is one who is more personal. It's
like a familiar spirit, but it's there just to mess
you up. It's there to just focus on you. A
familiar spirit is more long lineage generation. Make sure you
have more generational wealth, make sure that you have addictions
forever to you, your brainkage, a great grand kid, stuff
like that.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
But a monitoring spirit is the one who just assigned
for you literally just the design.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
To make your weak hell, to make your day hell,
to throw you all track, to get you diseases, to
make you feel then comfortable. That's what they do. That's
a personal monitoring spirit. They adjust for you. So the
difference is you have one that's more like I say,
lineage generational wise, but minentring spirits are creded just for you,
and they communicate with each other all the time.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
They like they team up with each other and help.
I did say, how can I get her?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Now? Okay, do listen, and then they contact other spirits. See,
people don't even understand they demons be talking to your demons. Yeah, everybody,
and they be conspiring and helping how to hate on you,
how to get you. They be talking behind the scenes,
and you can be having a regular conversation, but that's
something going on behind the scenes between the monitoring spirits.
They communicate with each other. This like my aunt always

(37:16):
told me, because yeah she's in cool, but she's a psychic.
She told me the truth about the whole thing. And
I mean, she has so much money off this all
she do, she said, all my they call them spirit guides.
Don't play with that. That's a monitoring or a familiar spirit.
That's just their sneaky name. They call them the spirit guides.
We'd write you up her. Yeah, ain't know. Spirit guid's

(37:39):
that's your monitoring spirit. That's what it's right in your face.
That's why it's born with you. It's your guide straight
to hell. It's your mind tring spirit to make sure
you do everything wrong. So you don't qualify, because the
devil can't make you, the demons can't. No, you disqualify yourself.
That's what I told you. They set you up for
failure and you fall for it. That's like you being

(37:59):
on a right and I take you to a buff at,
but I know you want to diet. I know you've
been doing good. But I go, come on, we're going out.
I take you to a whole bluff thave ribs, taco
I'm just eating. You're gonna You're sitting there, just gonna
You're gonna break. You say, okay, all right, Uh just
one day is not gonna hurt, right. See say they

(38:21):
set you up like that so they can't force you
to eat. I can't, you know, just put ribs and
stuff in your mouth. But they set you up to
the point when you break. You see what I mean? Right? Yeah,
So that's what the monitoring spirits are. So don't trust
no spirit guides. Please.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
When I hear that, I just get the chills, Like
you don't know what you're getting yourself into.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I had a conversation with this girl last year and
she was talking about how she was introduced to like
witchcraft and all this stuff, and at first it was
through movies like The Craft and the Witches and stuff
like that. And then make a long story short, her
cousin started doing tarot cars on her and all this
other stuff, and next thing you know, she was being
hunted by demonic spirits.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're talking about opening portals. That's
that's the form of opening portals. We play with Taylor
CARRG Boy's definitely.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, I'm not doing.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Different, that's the whole. Yeah. Yeah, you don't play with
stuff like that. They don't even deal with people. Don't
even hang with people. They don't They just don't even know.
Don't hang with people with people because just like we're
contagious for life, we're contagious for our father. We represent y'all.
Shoe were also known to Jesus Christ. Right, we become contagious,

(39:31):
you know, good energy, positive vibes as much as we can,
but darkness is also contagious. They have a job to
become contagious. Have you ever been feeling good, in a
good mood and you go around certain group of people,
you come back Jane, Yeah, you've been robbed spiritually. See,
they change you. They were contagious with that negativity and

(39:52):
it came on you. It's how you passing the cold.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, no, that's a fact.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
So when you were down or in Hell did the
demons notice your It's like, how were they interacted with you?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
See now in the hindsight, it was like, now I
know the Lord was with me because I'm supposed to
been through way worse. I was supposed to went through way,
way worse. It was like, now it was like he
was showing me. It's like orientation because a lot of
these demons. I did get tortured, but it wasn't like
it was supposed to be. It's like the Lord was
giving me a spanking. Each department Hell is full of

(40:23):
compartments and departments within compartments. Okay, it reminds me of
the prison system. You know how you have a certain
level of security, you have a certain you know, maximum manimum,
you know what I mean, security, prisons and all of this.
But in Hell, it's all horrible, even the most you think,
it's beyond the stretch of imagination. So for example, if

(40:43):
you were.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
You know, I don't know, one of those that messed
with children, let me just put it that way, because.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Hey, it's just so she said, feedalphile, they have a
whole compartment for them. If you're a rapist, they got
a compartment for you every tier they have a compartment
or department. Okay, I tell everybody this and this is facts.
Everybody has. Everybody sends on a big spectrum, but everybody

(41:18):
has their favorite sin that's attached to the personality. Right,
everybody has one that clearly stands out. And the one
that clearly stands out in your actions.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
When you pass away, that's what you automatically sends yourself to.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
So if you had anger issues, he's always fighting, tearing
people up, clapping that people doing stuff. When you pass away,
guess what compartment you're gonna be in? You see what
I mean? So the mo relates and fits to what
type of person and sinning that your personality was attached to.
So we send its ourselves. See, everybody don't realize that
the Lord don't want us to go there. It breaks

(41:52):
his heart. Like do you like it's unbelievable? Okay, Like,
for example, they have a compartment in Hell. They were
raping this young lady so bad and it was just
it stone slaps. Hell is very organized too. I want
people to her. Oh yeah, you could take the worst

(42:13):
X rated porn movie in the universe and they still
don't come close to how they Okay, put it this way.
Every hole that you have, even her nostrils, was getting
sexually penetrated. Put it that way. Oh wow, the ones medium,
big ones, and you rich see one thing, you and
your spirit body. Everybody's so used to the physical. Just say,
if I get my arms snatched off in hell, it
comes right back and I feel the painess if it

(42:36):
was the first time, every time, so they never you know,
when people say, oh I get used to No, it's
like just say if you burn your finger, you know, oh,
first thousands of a second, how it hurts. Just imagine
that repeat. It always feels like the first time.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Did the other people down or did they recognize you?

Speaker 3 (42:55):
The question? See, that's why I you know, I hear
a lot of people's test bro, That's why I was like,
because you be so much and to your own you
can be standing right next to a person, You're not
thinking about them. Everybody's in their own loop. The regret
you have so much regret. The water should have could
have times a trillion, because he sends a floodgate of

(43:19):
how many times he tried to save you. You keep
seeing stuff I kept seeing, Yeah, I kept seeing the
people he sent it to my life that I rejected.
How many times I should have made it right, but
I made it left. It's like you see every detail.
I even didn't even remember I stole the candy bar
when I was six years old. I saw it, I
remembered it. You're so focused on your own guilt, you

(43:40):
not thinking about nobody. So people told me, oh, I
did this, and I saw this pro I was there.
I have kind of a hard time a little bit
because you so distracted about worrying about yourself, I'm telling you.
And Hell is so crowded, like I said, You're gonna
be surrounded by people. Ain't nobody thinking about you. They
are going through their own torment and things ravaging them.
They ain't thinking about you. I promise you. I could
have been standing next to Michael Jackson didn't even know it.

(44:02):
I don't even want to care in the first place.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yo, What do you think about people who say they've
been to Hell and they be saying how they've seen
like certain rappers and stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Like I said, everybody has their testimony. But like I
tell you, and I don't want nobody to experience Hell
because you got so much, so much stuff happening you
don't care about what right you not. I promise you
you canna be in fun of because that stuff don't
count eternity. They can move around because that don't know. Listen,

(44:31):
I hope nobody experienced that dimension, but me personally, I
had time to think about nobody beyond alifying you don't
care how you're gonna have time to be starts.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Fucking hell right, don't make no I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
I'm just saying, how you.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Try to recognize that person, this rapper. That sound is
so crazy.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
You got these little themes and big giants all around you,
ripping your face off, people getting burned, raped, screaming listening.
You ain't thinking about.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yo, be a star strucking hell it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, Like, come on, but wasn't there a part when
you seel like a claw like grab you and threw
you across the.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Up That's when I first fell through the portal and
I felt and that's when I hit and it felt
like I told you see one thing about your spirit body.
See here, we have a nervous system right my past
your hand. You feel it in your hand. Somebody smacks
you in your face, you're gonna feel that tingle I
don't know, but when I was growing up, Grandma, I
am might have to smacked me in the face. You
mean me get the little tingle? Yeah, right, But in

(45:30):
your spirit body, if you usually get smacked in your face,
you feeling instantly from your head to your toe all
at the same time.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
It's not proportion. You don't have a nervous system. Your
whole body is the system.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
So everything you can poke your finger, you can feel it,
in your feet, you feel it everywhere at the same time.
It's hard to explain. So when I hit the ground,
it felt like every bone in my body broke at
the same time. That's the best way, and that's still
then understatement. But all of a sudden I hurt. It's
like flat and then the whole thing was illuminated. I've

(46:01):
seen nothing but thousands, but these perfect pits lined up
all I'm talking about for miles with pits, and inside
these pits were people in each pit, streaming, burning like
And then what terrified me was, first of all, I
couldn't move. It's like, okay, I'm not making fun of

(46:21):
anybody being mine or body body mass index, Why is
that with you? Right? Yeah? Right, But it's like I
had a suit on that weigh like a thousand pounds. No, it'
felt like I had a fat suit on.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Literally, like you feel like you weigh a thousand pounds.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
It's like yeah, because I wanted to. I wanted to
just I couldn't even my eyes what I was seeing
around the pits with these big giant lizard looking things,
reptile things, and they was had these sticks and they
was poking everybody back. They were trying to come out,
and they was making fun of them. They was letting
them come out a little bit right, and they crawl

(46:58):
out and calling up on over and they look and
they I mean, they were torturing and they were laughing. Now,
one thing that struck me. Now I'm getting scared and
scared keep going. That's one thing about hell. Your fear
never can cap It's never gonna stop. It keeps elevating,
It keeps elevating, it keeps elevating. Just when you think
you're it your scariest, something else happening. It's beyond fear,
beyond terror. Because these things when they were talking, they

(47:21):
got their own language. It was hurting my body just
to hear them talk. Literally, that's why we have curse words.
It comes straight from Hell itself. It has energy behind it,
literally like straight up. So that's why I'm trying my
best to make sure I'm trying my best not to
use curse words because it comes from demons, demonic talk.
Even when it was laughing, it hurts your spirit, bod,

(47:42):
you can feel it. It feels like that. You ever
seen that magic. The magicians they have the bed of nails,
especially they do in India, and they lay on it.
They can lay on the better. So just imagine you
laying on the bed of nails and somebody just push
your body down, right, That's how I felt when I
heard them talk. When they be talking to each other,
it hurts you. Yeah. So I'm I'm feeling the vibration

(48:05):
coming behind me, but I can't turn around, I cannot move,
But it's something so big that I can feel. And
instantly it was like the thing was this stick with
it was like a middle finger and three more finger
clark that grabbed me from the back of my head.
And I felt like I didn't weigh nothing to compare
how strong this thing was. Literally it's like this plastic cup. Literally,

(48:28):
how powerful this thing when it took me and it
threw me so hard. I'm so fast. I'm telling you
this thing was super strong. So I ain't nobody talking
about or I'll go to Hell. I'll put the food
fox on these themes all box, No, you can't see
all yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Hell is crazy.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
You're gonna be so pumped out. The last thing you
think about is fighting. There's nowhere to go, nowhere to hide.
There's no relief. Then that's another thing. You feel so
hungry and so tired. It feel like you haven't ate
in the years. I feel like you haven't slept in years.
It's an exhaustion, just beyond explanation, like it's hard to me.
So you so weak.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
I'll tell you can't fight nothing in hell.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
There's no way. All the stuff we take for granted,
Like I said before, strength muscles, you know, everything that
comes from God. And one thing, I realized that darkness
took all of that, everything that belonged to God out
of me before I got there. That's what that darkness was.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
It's like a filter. God doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
They're not even older like, so that darkness is there
to pretty much give me back back, Give me that back,
give me that back.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
That did it feel like he was down there forever
for like a long time.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, time doesn't exist. I'm glad. That's a great question
because you could be there for five seconds and feel
like you're there for five months. See, time doesn't exist,
you all time is only a construct here in this reality,
so us we can measure things, organize things.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Time really doesn't exist because it's safe.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
For example, if I were to say, hey, I want
to talk to you next week at the same time
at seven o'clock, right, So now when we linked up
next week at seven o'clock, wouldn't it still be now?
It's always now. Five minutes from now, right, thirty seconds
from now. Everything is still now. And that's where eternity exist.

(50:12):
It's not the past and it's not the future. It's
just it is. It's now. Everything is now. So when
you go there, it's no clock, there's no nothing. That's
another biggest regret that you know that you're never coming
out of there, so the people are so that's like
you're being locked up in the sentence to life in prison,
you know, without the possibility of parole. It's like you
ain't going nowhere. This is your existence, for existence is

(50:35):
beyond time, and that even that tells you up more
than the pain that you feel, all that that regret.
Once that regret start kicking in, Yeah, when you realize
this is it. But there's no nothing like yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Because because I'm gonna say, you was clinically pronounced dead
for three minutes and forty seven seconds.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Yes, that is crazy. Actually technically it was longer than that.
But the only reason when it came up with that
number was because the nurse, she jokingly said, because my
aunties asked, like, yo, how long? Well, she said three
minutes and forty seven It was more like six minutes,
but she's she got that, so we coined that and
and uh, to this day, my auntie talked, yeah, because

(51:20):
she said, I don't know, three minutes forty seven seconds.
The get I'm like, oh, this ain't.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Funny, Like girl, how long?

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Same funny? Right? Yeah, she was. She was a good nurse,
so much love to her. She did what she could.
He was very nice, but yeah, she was just jokingly like,
but technically on the record it was more like six minutes.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
So wow, yeah, it got like years right the way
you describing it and everything being so detailed like it
don't feel like it was no six minutes.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
No, that's my point. When everybody touched eternity, you know,
time don't exist. It don't exist at all. It really don't.
And that's why Okay, like, okay, I can use the
medical science is just texting up to what the Bible
talking about. Anyway, Like for example, when you dream, technically
you only dream for like eight seconds if you want.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
To clock the time, but don't you in your dreams?
For like, you can dream about the whole day, but.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Then technically you only dream for seconds.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
So that show you time don't exist. That the discrepancy
in that, see you what I mean?

Speaker 3 (52:19):
And that's how eternity is compares for our existence.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Well, that's why I always said, I don't feel like
time is real. It's just no way.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Yeah, it's not. It's not.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Because even last night I went to bed, I laid down,
and I woke up and I'm like, yo, I have
a feelings already two o'clock and literally it was two something.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I'm like, wow, Yeah that's deep because yesterday, Wow, time
just went. I don't know where it went. Yeah, I
really don't know where it went.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
I'm just like I'm puzzled. I'm blown away.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Tomorrow is October.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
I'm just like we started, Yeah, it just started. It
feels like it just started. Yeah, we already October.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
You know, I really don't think time is real, even
because I live in New York and sometimes I go
back to like the busiest train stations and I just
people watch and you could just see everything moving so fast.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Yeah. Yeah, I love New York, must love New York.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Let's go in New York City all the way to Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Yeah, especially queens, that's the money.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Let's go. But no, it's just reminded that they even
said it. Scientists came on. I think it was a
couple of weeks ago. Everybody looking up for theirselves. I
don't want people to believe me. They can research for themselves.
They said time is speeding up. They even said it. Yes,
they are thinking about adding back, adding another month. Think

(53:48):
about that. They thinking you can look it up. Facts.
They are thinking about so if you can change time.
I always thought about this, this daylight saving time, all
of this stuff. How are you gonna stop an hour
right or put an hour back and then put an
hour back. That'll show you how artificial time is You
can't stop time real existence here in this matrix, you
can't stop it. It moves with or without you. Right,

(54:12):
you can sit there. You can't pause getting old. You
can't say oh, like a video game, press starting, Paul,
let me take a break from aging. No, it's gonna
You're still getting pushed. It's moving with or without you.
So how you're gonna take something that moves consistently to
stop it, put it back, and then put it No.

(54:34):
So time is an artificial construct just for us to
use measurement to organized things. But in eternity it don't exist,
and that makes you even go crazier. Pop was in
that so long? In it so long?

Speaker 4 (54:46):
I mean if every race, every culture, every dimension so ancient.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Hell is so ancient. You can feel the ancientness of
Hell like it's ancient, like that place has been there forever,
it was there before.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
What was the colors?

Speaker 3 (54:59):
First? Oh, they have so many different colors in eternity
that you can only kind of cross reference, because there's
some colors that exist that I can't They're not here
in this dimension, Clearly they don't. I'm telling you, it
is so different, Like the closest I can say, there's
a lot of black red, I don't know how to.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
And then that's another thing in eternity. You can hear
colors too. Everything was like okay.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
For example, you know on a hot summer day, you
see the heat wave, the invisible heat way. Yeah, that's
how colors look and sound. That's how they give off
of sound, each color.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Barbecue on the grill and you see the yeah yeah
something yes, yeah, And it.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Is like you're trying to move through, but it's always
gonna It's just it's just like you move you can't
move it through. It's just hard to describe. It is horrible.
That's why they say there's no peace, there's no rest,
there's no sleep. You can't you can't even take a
nap if you want a too in that place. It's
horrible about this style, you know, I do like it's

(56:02):
it's I told you I sleep in three to four
hour increment sometimes and sometimes I'm starting to see stuff
that I didn't even remember. It's like he's sectioning off
my experience based off my spiritual maturity.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
So I won't get overwhelmed because it is and it's horrible.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
It is horrible. But the more I get.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
The more maturity, the more he's releasing to me, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
So it's it's bad. Yeah, so yeah, my sleeping is
not good at all for real. Well it's it's bad.
It's bad. And sometimes I be so tired I don't
want to go back to sleep. I just stay up,
like forget it. I don't even want to Yeah, like, nah,
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
So how did you get back in your body?

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Oh? Okay? Now the thing is the Lord. I never
saw his face. All he did was touch my back,
touch it. And when I tell people that he has
more power any anything like, but it's it's an authoritative love.

(56:59):
Like they painted him to be some kind of cowards,
like some soft hippie. No he is. It's no joke.
So as I'm looking, I'm standing on the cliff and
there's other people. That's not makes sense how because nobody
has no conversations. But these people that was gone to
this castle thing, that's the best way I can describe it.

(57:21):
They looked up because standing behind us, they had to
have seen the Lord because nobody talked to each other, nobody,
but they was telling us we were allowed to hear.
They were telling us to go back, don't come here.
People were screaming. They were just like a stern warning.
They didn't want right. So as I look and I
got so, I thought I was terrified, beyond terrified. I
told you he kept growing, your fear keeps growing. And

(57:44):
I just said, it's just I just couldn't fathom. I'm
just saying, gee, I didn't even I couldn't even say
his name. I couldn't even I never even worshiped him before.
I used to roast them. I used to, you know
what I'm saying. But soon she I just felt touch
on my back. I felt like I was the only
thing that like. I felt like nothing else exists but
me and him. It's like he makes you feel like

(58:06):
I'm telling you, it's like nothing else exists but me
and him. Love, the safety, the peace. It's hard to
even explain it. All I know is I want to
go back. I just want to be with him. And
everybody's gonna feel the same once you meet him. Everybody,
there's no hands down, I promise you, there's no insence
but about it. Now, soon as I got touched, it's

(58:28):
like it's like I've thrown up the same way I
was flying down but I got thrown up, but dan't sham.
It's like it's like and the same pain that I experienced.
I felt it. I felt like but it was disgusting
because it felt like I was jumping back. When I
came back to my body, it felt like if you
put on you know, the blue Jen outfits back in
the day, the Carl CANi outfits. Take eight of those,

(58:51):
dip them in ice cold water and put them all
along at the same time. I felt nasty, cold, wet.
It just felt like I knew I was wearing my body.
That's how I know for a fact, this is just
a vehicle. I was wearing it. I was pressed for eternity,
and I can tell it feels like I was wearing
an outfit and it made me feel horrible. I felt,
and they took me weeks to get out that feeling.

(59:13):
Literally took me weeks to get off. I felt disgusting.
It's like everything was delayed, like to me, you know,
just yeah, it took a while for me to get
used to this. But everybody need to realize your body
is just a vehicle for real. It's just a besta
for this dimension for you to be able to go
to school for to speak. Yeah, it's all it is.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
And people want to gamble a whole semester for ey.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Think about that. People give up eternity. They don't even
know where it wasts for them. That could have been there,
that could have been That's why he say he wants
to share everything with us. But yeah, we forfeited all
just for this little season of nothingness. Come on, yeah yeah,
but yeah, it's our choice. It's one thing our father
and the Lord don't play with. They don't play with
our decision. It was free. They don't violate free will.

(59:57):
They would never violate free will. But they all always
be there for you and help you. But they don't.
They don't.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
They can't violate your free will because that's the gift.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
From the father. And they's no lie on him when
he saying it is it is. He said, you won't
violate your free will. But usaid, Wassley gives us tools
to make sure we don't abuse off free will, because
without what happens when we abuse off free will. You
see what happens and then automatically we did by default,
we send its ourselves to hell. Hm.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
So do you remember waking up?

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Yeah, I clearly did, because the nurse freaked out because
they were pretty much like Sam done. Like you can tell,
they was wrapping stuff up like literally, But when I
made eye contact, all the first thing I did, I
looked at the nurse. She looked and went out through him.
She almost felt she went and got the rest of
telling people, ya, he's a white here's a lot like

(01:00:45):
and then everybody start coming in. I even heard my
family way down in the hallway. It was just a
lot of but I still smell the sftur. I was
freaking out when they came in. I'm telling him, no,
they wanted to put stuff in me, and I thought
they was gonna put me back to sleep or something
because I want to know. No, no, they thought I
was going crazy. They are facts, No, don't put me
to see. And I can still smell soft in the

(01:01:08):
whole hospital room. It's like it was. I could still
hear him. Yeah, it felt like I was in a
dream within a dream when I first like literally what
it took me?

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Like, I said, even to this day, you know, I
still got it's just weird.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Yeah, I feel like it was. It's still hard for
you to just after life, after this experience.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
It is very hard. It's still hard to this moment.
But what keeps me coping is I have to stay
focused on him, do you see what I mean? And
have good people around me. I got a crazy wife
that loves me. She helps me a lot. We roast
to each other, she do she got my back for
She's my best friend.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Though, Come all, wife, That's what I'm talking about. What
the scripture saying, when a man finds a wife, he finds.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
A good thing. Yep, yeah, okay, So how did you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
How did this journey lead you into ministry?

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
What great question? Another great question?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Get my wrong, but you I did my research.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
I just I I never planned this. I never I
never even thought in a million years i'd be talking
about the Lord. I never even I couldn't have seen
this coming. You see what I mean? Yeah, but and
it took me a long time to get it right. See,
people think, if you go to hell, you come back,
you turn to an angel. No, no, it took me
over fourteen years.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
You took it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Oh yeah, definitely, definitely. I wouldn't because I didn't trust nobody.
I had trust issues after that. You see what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Circles, Yeah, I kept my circle super small, and I
just cut ties.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
I wouldn't even I was done. I was, I was finished.
I couldn't do it. No, no, no. But the thing is,
it took me fourteen some years start drinking even more,
smoking even more weed because I couldn't sleep, couldn't trust nobody.
I'm seeing a little shadowy, paranoid. So it took me
a lot of years to even get to the point
because I wasn't no people. I mean, if some people

(01:02:55):
did die and come back and get it right instantly, No,
it took me fourteen years experience to get to this point,
you know, to really have a real relationship. See a
lot of people talking about they know the father, know
the lawd. But it's not a real relationship, you see
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
It's just on the surface and all I love me
some lord, but yeah he number sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
On your list. That's not a real relationship, you know
what I mean. That's like if you're in a relationship
with somebody, but the only time you see them is
if you want some money or some booty cheeks right
right right, and it's times people doing quality time you
want that, right, Like, this ain't no relationship, you see
what I mean. And that's how we treat our father though,
don't we You see what I'm saying, Like, nah, and

(01:03:33):
only the two authentic ones who put them all into this,
and really, like, nobody's gonna go for that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
So what makes you think our Father, our King don't
go for that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
You wouldn't go for it. So why would you think
our Father, our creatives gonna go for that? You see
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
So a lot of people need to snap out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
And really, but like I said, it took a long
time from to get to this point, and naturally, behind
the scenes, I was doing this behind the scenes, helping
people reading, started my own little Bible groups, and then
it just started going from there because I was just
you know, everyone has to find that eternal purpose. Right,
it's not a job, it's not a career. You just
see what I mean. You find your eternal purpose. Everybody's

(01:04:09):
gonna find it if they're looking for it. And I
guess this is my eternal purpose. It's just to serve
Him in any capacity that I can. And you know,
hopefully people can learn from my testimony also my experience
with him daily.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
So when you speak about spiritual warfare, Now, what do
you want most people to understand, because I feel like
people still don't believe in the spiritual world.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Well, first of all, everybody have to realize spiritual warfare.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
You were born in it. Just taking for what it is.
We were born in the dark world. We were born
in the war that to precedes our ancestors like facts,
But the thing is spiritual warfare. You have to realize,
person and foremost, you are your worst enemy. See now
my first book, The toughest enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
In life you have is you, and that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
That's facts. Forget the demons, forget the haats. You gotta
start with yourself first, because you're your worship of me.
You're your toughest ene me because by default, your flesh
rolls with demons. See anything that pacifies the flesh, your
flesh automatically you want it, You're gonna be right, and
demons cater to your flesh, and your flesh cater the demons.

(01:05:15):
So unless you're under the management of the Holy Spirit
renewing yourself, that's what you mean by being reborn, meaning
you dar into your old self and you start to
become reborn, you're under new management, so to speak. Your
flesh doesn't manage you, your emotions don't manage you. You
don't want you know, it's like you become a superhuman,
so to speak, because something else is managing you at
that point, because I can't do it by myself. That's

(01:05:37):
one thing I learned once I surrendered and realized I
can't do this by myself. I can't manage much. I
don't want free will now. I know why the Lord
say yo, I only hear to do the will of
my father. And that's how I feel. I don't want
free will. I can't manage it. We mess it up.
I'm wow mess it up, So I don't want it.
I'm not mature to handle free will. I don't want

(01:05:59):
thank you for the gift, but I just want to
serve you. Here I give my gift back to you.
Is your free will gift. I'm giving it back. I surrender.
I just want to roll with you. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
And last and last, when not least, what message do
you share people who are living a life you once lived?
Because I can only imagine a lot of people that
you were in the gang. Whell just people that you
know to make a home. They're probably not around right
a lot of them or we.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Lost a lot a lot of people, but a lot
of them now fortunately, are giving lives up for the Lord.
That's good, the family man responsible. I'm cool with everybody that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Was with you when you got shot.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Yeah he was just over here yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Oh that's what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Okay, Yeah, he was just over here yesterday. He also
lives in Minneapolis and Minnesota as well, so okay, yeah, yeah,
he the one who got me to move to Minnesota
to get away a little bit. So yeah, no, he
was just here. It was yesterday. He was here, wasn't
Yeah he was here yesterday. Yeah. Yeah, and uh so yeah, yeah, definitely.
You know, I'm about to go home. I'll be home

(01:07:02):
next week of course, my Mom's memorial and so everybody's way.
I can't wait to go home, you know, to see everyone.
And yeah, a lot of a lot of old enemies.
I mean, we used to shoot at each other. Facts,
we used to shoot at each other. Now we laugh,
you know, we grown now. But you see what I'm saying. Grandfather,
I'm a grandfather. We got people grandfathers and fathers. We

(01:07:22):
ain't got time for that. Real men are starting to
wake up. Real men or fathers. They you don't want
to be responsible, starting to focus. So, yeah, I'm proud
of them too much love especially North Pole, up Town, Chicago,
eight fifty let's go. But yeah, yeah, I'm proud of
them too. A lot of them. They change their lives,
a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
So, but what would be the message you will give
to younger men that's still in the streets and the
gang life and stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Why will you follow? Watch? Will you look up to
choose better role models? Literally?

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
And like my grandma taught me, you will never catch
a pigeon flying with the eagle.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
That's a fact. I repeat, you will never catch a
pigeon flying with the eagles. So, young men, young women
as well, if you're out there, if you have dream,
how you gonna be a bum But you want to
be a millionaire and you all you do is hang
around bumbs. You're not gonna be a millionaire. You only
rise us HW as your company or the company you keep,
you only rise us. How's your faith? So, young people
out there, set goals, make your ambitions super high. Don't

(01:08:16):
hang with those who are not chasing the lord or
not even chasing their dreams, who are not doing anything
all they want to do is just rob, steal, kill
and destroy you. O advise you choose better role models,
choose better friends. That's because everything starts with your decisions
or who you hang with. Thrill and you remember the
old school saying, right, I'm just paraphrasing, like, if you
want to know a person, just look at their friends.

(01:08:36):
Look who they hang with. Toge there you go, they
going another one. See that's so young people, it's better
to be a leader anyway, to be a loner. Be
a loner, be a leader, start, you know, mapping their
things out because time is going fast. We're just talking
about fast time is going. You can be thirteen, you're
gonna blink your eyes. You're gonna be twenty one. That's
a fash watch facts. I'm forty six and I just

(01:08:59):
remember when I was fifteen. But now I'm forty six
and it feels like it was like this. Yeah yeah,
so you all time is not your friend, nor your
enemy is moving with or without you. So prioritize young people.
Prioritize what But.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Domini, thank you so much. I really appreciate this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
And I want to come back. I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, and I god to order your books, so everybody
really can follow you at tele we can purchase your
books so we can support you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Oh, thank you very much, thank you very much. You know,
you can go to Shopify. Also you can go on Lulu,
you can go to Amazon. Of course you can get
all of my books and say, hey, listen, I've been
working on I've taken a break for a minute because
I have my fourth book coming out called Spiritual Currency.
So it'll be within too much, God willing, and you know,
everything's happening, So every anybody keep your prayers up for yourselves,

(01:09:46):
your families, the old world because it's getting weird out here.
Yeah weird, It is getting weird. Also, you can go
to Blessed to be Chosen dot com. That's the website.
Also I can want to order the book. But yeah,
I really appreciate this. I can't wait to come back
on everybody support us show. Everybody. Yeah, definitely, she's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Doing okay, okay, And yes, I'm definitely gonna hit you
back up when this book come out in two months,
so yes, we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Definitely make it happen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
But I appreciate you for coming on the show, and
I really appreciate you for making time for me, especially
during this moment with your mom passing, so I really
really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Thanks. You don't want me to stop? Thank you? She
wouldn't want me to stop anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Yes, And to the listeners, if you have any questions
coming to concerns, please make sure to email me at
hello at the PSHG podcast dot com. And until next time, everyone,
Later you ain't gonna say bye all.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
What's love and blessing to you all.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Walm she a blessed and productive night day. Whenever you're
watching this, where are you watching it from, keep your.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Heads up in these dark times?

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
What that means?

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Well us our language I created. It took me nineteen
years to create.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Walm. She's a language. It's called elix. That's what we
speak around here. So whym she means it's a state
of agreement. So it's like one of atonements. So if
I say she means we're on the same page, it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Sound like love, y'all, let's go. So that's what we
speak around here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Elix. Yeah, okay, cool?

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Well she everyone?

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
All right? God, bless you and thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
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