September 6, 2021 • 40 mins
If you're like these three guys, you probably have a bunch of hustles and spread yourself too thin. But is that really enough to be successful? This week the lads talk all things side hustles, main hustles and everything in between!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Prompt Us is a production of I Heart Radio and
three two. Welcome back everybody to the prompt Us Podcast.
I am your host, Gabriel Conti, and I am here
ready to learn with you and grow with you today.
And I am here. This is the correct part that
I'm going to say now, because I kind of messed
up the intro. I am here with my co hosts
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Chad and Zach on the other side of the pond
slash globe. Zack, I'm noticing that you're wearing a pretty
cool sweater. I am Brod. I'm wearing some blong. Oh
my gosh, wait you, I'm This is Sebastian Gomez his podcast.
And that's my merch. Oh my gosh. Friends helping friends,
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Iron sharpening iron. It's the set up, baby, it's the
final count and by and by by ironing, sharpening iron
bank accounts helping your bank account, which also leads to
the prompt. Actually, I thought I sent that for frisk
that's it costs me money? Yeah cool, one of the
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provocate boys. All right, today's prompt before I jump in,
don't forget to meet your problems prompt podcast dot Com. Alright,
so today's prompt is from Tash all the way on
my side of the world. Sunshine Coast. Let's go. It's
really nice up there, you guys, being the Sunshine Coast
real quick. I got married there, bro. Oh yeah, you
get good photos. That's I got married there on the
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coast though, like a little little west in the hill,
bush in the hill, a little bit on the bush.
In the hinter lands. They call that the hinter lands,
Sunny coast, hinter lands, the sunny Oh that was good, yeah, bro, whatever,
I'm out here. I was in Australia for like three months,
all right, chill was Zach talking? Just then? Was that
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game Zach talking? It's almost like that meme where I
see no different, They're they're the same. You're the office
mean with Pam or whatever. Okay, I got you, all right.
So Tash Tash brought up two great prompts, so I
think we should try and combine them. And by me
thinking and we should combine them, I mean we made
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the decision to combine them. Their first prompt was side hustles.
What are good side hustles? What's a what's a good
side hustle to have? I don't really know, but we're
gonna give that one track. The second one was if
there's someone, dude, it's just gonna be forty minutes of
me talking about all the side hustles that didn't work.
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And then the second half or the second prompt that
Tash sent through was about saving. So let's try and
combine them, because I think saving yourself saving what? What's that? Well,
it's saving what kind of saving yourself? Marriage? That would
be a weird side hustle, and waiting until marriage is
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definitely two topics. I don't know good, Maybe they don't.
Saving the world wait until marriage is a full time hustle.
By the way, it's that's full time job on steroids.
I'm pretty confident Tasha's talking about saving more money. So look,
let's try and combine them because I feel like most
people who want to have a side hustle are trying
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to generate more revenue. And I think there's not a
lot of point generating more revenue if you're just spending
all of it. I think investing it, saving it is
probably a good shout. So, boys, what's some good side hustles?
How we go around and talk about ones that haven't
worked for us? True? All right, did you want to
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start with the sun. Start with me, fam you guys stop.
I love Zach immediately he's just like uncomfortable, Like it's
just it's like being a sweat, just one drip. This
ain't on me, bro. So I guess before we talk
about like specific side hustles, it's kind of we have
to come down to terms with like how much time
do we have for this side hustle and is it
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going to actually have a return, because there's been things
that I think all three of us have started that
while we think it's a good idea, we we already
have a lot of side going on, you know what
I mean, So like how a comment, there's a lot
of commitments, and so while I think this was like
a good idea, I don't think it was a healthy
thing because now it's impacting all the other things I
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have going you know, all the little side you know
projects or hustles or whatever. Now they're impacting my main hustle,
my main project. And so I think it's important to
kind of know, well, how much time do you have
because as you're choosing the side hustle, obviously going to
yard sales on a Saturday morning and trying to flip
them on Facebook market places a lot easier time wise
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than you know, daily vlogging Zack. Maybe that's what I
need to do, and maybe thats what the vlugs are about.
Maybe I need to just blog side hustles. That's pretty good.
Oh my gosh, it's like micro from Dirty Jobs. But
you do like like side that dude side to Okay,
business meeting right now, bring it in. It made me
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think of that, or like the guy he's doing something,
he's losing the video game. Then he whenever he starts losing,
he sits up and take it seriously, we are just
sat where were we? Well? I can jump in with
some side hustles real quick because I did the garage
sale thing a lot did. Actually, my boy Adam and
I would go around all the time. My big one
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that I would do is try and find old camera lenses.
And then what I would do is by bulk adapters
on Amazon. So they were like thirty cents each and
so I would sell. So say the camera lands I
bought it for twenty dollars, I would sell for thirty dollars,
but because I include a cannon adapter, I would charge
another thirty dollars because I went out of the way
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to get that adapter and people bought it all the time,
but it was it was a hustle, like like taking
nice photos of lenses is like a weird part of
the process. And also just like talking to photographers like
no shade on photographers, but you guys stress me out.
It is like all about the sharpness, Like, guys, what's
going on? But yeah, so that was kind of one
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of the ones, like literally that example that use Chad
where like it was easy to go do, but it's
a really slow return and I think you've got to
think about why you're doing the side hustle is it
because it's just a blast. Because the great thing about
money is that if we treat it like a resource,
just like time and energy, money can be with something
that's really fun to make, and you kind of it
should be something that's really fun to make. It should
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be really fun to make money. So hey, I'm gonna
like Chelsea right now, my wife. I say my wife
Chelsea as if people don't know it already, but if
it's your first time, welcome back to promptest subscribe. Wife
is Chelsea. Um, but right now she where she's been
like buying jars and then making them like terra cotta
like pots and jars, and it's just like she just
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loves it. And I'm like, baby, you could freaking scale
it with some nice branding and like people would pay
heapes for that, because like I just like painting. I'm like,
that's probably fair enough. Like that's okay too, you know.
So it's not a side hustle of her, but it
could turn into a side hustle. So I think really
thinking about why why have the side hustle? Is it
fully like a monetary thing or is it because it's
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just a blossom. I think it's important because that that
would change the way you approach it. That goes into
the whole saving things too, write because when when I
was thinking about this before this topic, specifically before we
recorded the podcast, I was thinking, like saving money, if
you need to like make more money to save There's
so many different factors that could play into that, like
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how much do you need to save, how much more
money do you need to make, what money do you
make already? Like where are you at in life that
like what is your financial obligation at the moment? And
it's literally you don't have a good job, maybe it's
just get a better job, and you don't need to
actually out of side hustle. You just need to actually
get a new job, you know what I mean. Or
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or you have you're in a job that you're loving
and you want to stay there, then maybe at the
side hustle if you have the time, or if you're
in school, Like technically I was in school full time.
When I was in school, you know, I was getting
my acting degree, and my side hustle was doing social
media stuff, you know, and and I was obviously able
to scale that side hustle to be my full time thing,
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which I've been doing for almost a decade. Blows my mind.
Eight years I've been doing freaking social media. Makes me
feel like, I don't know, it's like cool, I'm like Grandma,
I'm seasoned. And I'm also like, oh my gosh, not
in Kansas anymore anyway. Um yeah, yeah, just like really either. Oh.
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I was just I was just gonna jump in real
quick because I think it's important to know it. Like,
there's something you said to me a few years ago
when I was struggling with all my debt and my
money stuff and I'm sure I said this in the
podcast before, but it was like, Bro, it is always
about the percentages. It doesn't matter how much money it's
coming in coming out, it's about the percent and what
you're using every dollar for. I was like, well, that
changed literally the game for me because it made me
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realize that if I made a million bucks tomorrow, my
problems would still be the same. So starting a side
hustle with the intention to make a million bucks tomorrow
is actually distracting me from getting other things in order.
So I just want to say that because that you
remind me of that when you're talking about um, yeah,
I mean biblically, it's all percentages to like when when
you hear about finances or like giving ten percent right
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tithe Um, it doesn't matter if you make ten dollars
or ten million dollars, Like the ten percent is ten percent,
and he who is good with a little will be
good with a lot. Yeah yeah, and it's and you think,
but then you think, like if you're not making a
lot and being generous and stuff, it's like, oh, I
don't make and this I guess this isn't really exactly
what the topic is, but I think it's important. If
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you're not making a lot, you're like, oh, what is
my you know, I only make Maybe you're a college student,
you make like five thousand dollars a year off of
your part time jobs, where so I don't know whatever,
and you're like, oh me of my like weekly paycheck.
I can't like it's not really contributing anything, and also
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I can't afford to do that. You're already practicing the
habits that are going to make you not generous and
sting you with your money down the line, even though
you're you're not making a lot. And maybe technically you're
not stingy because you're not making a lot, but you're
putting in the habits and practice to when you start
making more money, you are going to be what you're
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creating for yourself essentially, where if you're like, you know what,
I'm going to operate in those percentages. And that's what
Jess and I have And we work with my brother
who like helps us with our finances and everything. But
I made a full like flow chart of like where
the money comes in, it goes into our business, make
account we make you know, the business makes this and
gets paid out to us certain percentage, the percentage then
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get split ten percent here like for tithe, this percentage
goes to savings, and it doesn't matter. You know what
we make that month. Some months were able to make
five times the amount that we made the month before,
But the percentages still sack up the way they do,
and the percentages go into each bucket and it just
makes it easy. So if you're able to figure out
what you're I guess what your living expenses are and
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and all of that kind of create a budget and
a plan of like this is how much I need
to make to survive and that amount and then you
and then you yeah, and then you align that with
like how much you're making and formulate a plan like, oh,
I really I only make enough to survive. I am
not making enough to actually plan ahead. I either need
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to add that side hustle if I do want to save,
or I need to get a new job that pays
me more so I can actually, yeah, change your lifestyle
scale back. Yeah, that's a third one. It makes me
think of Richard Poor Dad, which is a book that
I think it's changed so many people's life to change mind.
And so if you're listening to this and you're looking
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for a very entry entry, entry level finance book on
how to take control of your finance and how to understand. Um,
this is gonna sound very vague, but like are very
cliche what the rich teach their kids, this is a
great book for you. And so there's this whole mentality
inside the book, which is pay yourself first. And the
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idea is is that what happens when people get paid
is they will pay their mortgage or rent okay, then
they pay their insurances, and they pay their car payment,
then they pay their groceries, then they pay your to
their utilities, then they pay off their groceries, and then
with what's left over, they will either save or have
fun with Whoops, that's my alarm. Sorry, now you're fine.
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So so people will either I'm really sorry. Are you
so sorry? You have like six more interruptions before we're equal. Yeah,
last from last on. So you're still playing with house money.
So so basically, with what people at the very end
of their check, they either save if they have any
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left money, um left over, or they spend it on
doing something fun. But what he's saying is whose happiness
matters more? Your happiness or your bill collector's happiness. So
he said, you should write yourself a check the first
of each month, for Chad wants a new car, or
Tory wants a vacation, or Zach wants a new music studio. Right,
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and so you write yourself a check and then at
the end of that like paycheck, if you don't have
enough money to to add in that check for you
at the beginning to add oh my gosh, oh my gosh,
you have to can you tell I was like waiting
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for a s oh yeah, like ten minutes ago. I
was like, games about to drop it. He's been waiting
for it this whole time. Well, okay, so so I
I meant a different ad than the ad that gave
meant like add and subtract. Yes, yes, that's what I meant.
So so so to recap on that. So, if you've
paid yourself first, and you pay all your other stuff
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as you go throughout using that check. If you don't
have enough money, you either a find a way to
make more money a side hustles, or be you start
cutting fat right, you cancel your Netflix is you know,
you start you start cooking and meal prepping at home,
You start doing things to save you more money. And
I just love the idea that that putting what you
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want first. You know, putting that first is really important
because if you put it last, you're always going to
put it off. And so as someone develops the idea
of potentially having a side hustle, it's back to Zach's
original question, which is, well, what do you want? Do
you want to side hustle? Is it because you want
to pursue a creative outlet? Like there's so many people
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crushing at right just crushing at the game, Like Chelsea
would probably crush it. I don't know if she's Etsy
or not, but there's so many creative people that if they,
if they, if if they would monetize their creativity in
a healthy way. Now, granted we're not saying go out
there and ruined something that brings you joy, but we're
letting you know that you could potentially do it more
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full time because they paint you a really, in my opinion,
a beautiful picture. My wife and I started YouTube as
something on the side. It was something that we love
encouraging people, we love communicating with people, and we love
talking about God. Well we were doing that all on
our Instagram, d m s and people were asking the
same questions. So we're like, well, what if we recorded
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a video and posted it on YouTube and then whenever
someone asks us the question, like, hey, here's that YouTube
video that we already recorded on the topic that you're
asking about. And then now it's our full time job,
and so we're still balancing that, you know, something that
we love and now monetizing it and like making money
off of it, right, And so there is there's definitely
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like a healthy balance because I think you've said to
me one time game that if you can monetize anything,
you'll monetize everything, and it's that guard you need to
have a guard rail for that. That's what I have. Literally,
that's what I've done and then and I've talked about
it with like Formula one that that it's like the
first it always comes around the Formula one round. But
that no, no, that was like the first thing in
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a long time that I wasn't monetizing myself because any
passion that I had, I was like, I can monetize this,
and then I would where even when when for me
one started happening and started happening, when I started getting
into formula one. Um it was I don't know. You
kind of have the thought like, oh maybe I can
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like play the video games and starts streaming it and
stuff like that, which is fun. Yeah, or like try
and make it into into a thing where it's like
become part of my job that I've just taken a
hobby and turned it into like a form of work.
A blessing got turned into a burden. Yeah, yeah, and
not that all, not that work as a burden's specifically,
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but there are things that you that do need to
stay in the vertical of Like this is strictly just hobby.
I enjoy it, it's for entertainment whatever. It's for me
to switch off and focus on this when I'm to
not focus on work because so many things like passionate
amount acting, Check that's work. Passionate amount music, Check that's work.
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Passionate about filmmaking, check, that's work. Podcast, passionate about talking
with my friends check that's where you know what I mean?
Like all of the boxes are checked for like what
is now considered work and finding the line of like
do you actually which is great? That chouse is just
like no, I just want to paint my little pots
and that's no for me, you know what I mean? Yeah,
I really admire that because I never one time. Tori
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called me out once in a good way where we
were at our old apartment in Los Angeles, and I
feel like if I were, um, like like an Instagram
guy where like I actually posted super aesthetic stuff, I
would crush it, because freaking guy the confidence. I'll tell
you why. I went and bought a vintage orange juice squeezer,
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and then I bought like a sack of these organic
scranges from this kid's charity or whatever. Then I cut
them all purpose perfectly down the middle, and then I
laid them out on the counter and I'm hand squeezing
these because I wanted hand squeeze orange juice. And Tory
walks out the morning and then Tory walks out, She's like, Babe,
why are you not filming this? This is so like
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aesthetically satisfying. It's like you know these like videos people
watch where it's just wow, I can't stop watching this
because I love the process is happening here. I'm like,
I just wanted hand squeeze orange juice. So I'm doing
this is for me. This is this is for Papa.
Know this one's for Daddy. But it's a thing where
you do really have to be careful because you know,
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some people do need to keep their creative stuff just
their creative stuff, because it's a sort of inspiration for
every other area of their life. Right, And so there's
definitely a like a a tight rope where if you
are wondering should you monetize something? I would connect with
people who are doing something similar, Like, I know this
sounds like a weird long shot, but imagine that you
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do really cool um what's it called? Me? Do? Like
handwriting stuff, calligraphy. If you do calligraphy, that stuff sells
like hotcakes on on Etsy message a shop owner say, Hey,
I love what you do. Have you ever struggled with
like monetizing off something that you are just so naturally
talented at and it's just a form of art, and like,
you know, that's just one example. But reach out to
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people in that same space to ask them, has this
been difficult for you to transition this into a business? Yeah?
And dude, I want to hear Zach and you talk
about stuff specifically, especially like even now, I would love
for you to break down all of your different verticals
that you're our work for you right now, because you
do have so many that like, technically they're all still
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side hustles because of them. What a vertical is, You're
you're different like lanes. I guess, so your different buckets
that you're making money from the bucket, you know what
I mean, Like you're different streams of revenue vertical. Yeah,
so what are your what are those things and kind
kind of like the story of those things and how
they all fit in, how you got to the point
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where you could actually generate revenue from them. Yeah. I mean,
first off, my main revenue, my main income stream is
my wife. And I love that. I was so ready
for something so serious, you know, kind of like I just, oh,
my gosh. We all have a bread winning wife, don't we.
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Literally I'm sitting here like pimping out my office for
like Amazon stuff, and I'm just like, oh yeah, just
as brandial money came in sick pay day for me.
Oh my gosh. I mean, all right, let me try
and break this down. Um. It's funny because I think
I'm the first time in a long time my side
hustles actually actually have become kind of main things like
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main kind of an actual little bit of a business structure,
which is super exciting and so um yeah, Okay, at
the moment, what am I working on? So I do
a lot of editing at the moment, which has been
I guess it's crazy this. I would say this podcast
got me back into editing again, which is so dope
and so like looking back, it's like, oh wow, I
edit this every week. I could probably use this skill
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set help out some friends. So it helped out with
Toran Chad, which is awesome. I still work with those guys.
And then it's just those random guys, those people. You
guys might know him, Chad, Chad Masters, you might know him.
But and I love that because it's like it's back
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for last episode. But there was a point and and
and I've actually had to back up on this. I'm
glad we're talking about this because I can use this
as an example of too many side hustles. But there
was a point where in one week I would edit
for I would do client work edit, I'd work a
day at my church, I would write and would and
sing for you tell people what client work edit means.
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That's editing YouTube videos for three different YouTube channels, multiple
videos a week, yes, but then also client work like
web development stuff, so just like designing websites of people
who need it, or like just any kind of design work.
I used to do heaps of stuff with Grace Coffee
back in the day, which is super cute, and I'm
like that was such a blast. I remember doing all
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that stuff. That was a side hustle Legit was like,
just tell me what you need and so. But I
would also in my week would be, um, yeah, my
week is so it's so messy yet, but it's it's refining,
which is good. But yeah, so editing client work like
doing websites stuff, music stuff, I would I would write
songs and record and um send them off to DJs,
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like heaps of random European DJs. That was like a
main income stream for a long time. Um my own
stuff like royalties from my own music. And then I
added in my YouTube channel and I was like, okay,
I really am Having my YouTube channel was just so
much fun that I'm like, I have to get rid
of something here because this is just going to burn
me out super quick. And it did, and that's kind
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of what happened with my music stuff and I think
the point of me sharing all this is that it's
really good to have multiple income streams. It's really dangerous
to not be focused on a few things, being a
jack of all trades, which is a zack of all trades.
Let's go this guy is guy's super fun Yeah, the
tech guy. That's my that's my sixth SID. I didn't
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bring it back when you get him a shirt? That
would be so funny. You know, National Treasure, You know
how rem National Treasure like Nicholas Cage and the other
guy Riley the bathroom that's me right now. I mean,
I'm in the bathroom just like I've got my phone
stuck to the wall and I'm just like coding right now.
But get the National Treasure was my jam was the
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best dude? Um, But yeah, I guess the point of
me saying all these things is that there can be
a lot of success in pivoting quickly, but there can
also be a lot of emotional stress from not refining
one craft. And so right now my main focus is
communication because the podcast, the podcast was a side hustle
for a big like it still is technically in the
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sense of like just another kind of thing that I
get to work on. I'm definitely more passionate about the
podcast than I am I guess about web development to
be honest, like, um, but yeah, it's the more that
you add to your plate, the less kind of you're
going to feel like you can invest into something. So
I don't know if you think about doing side hustles,
like just just take every take your whole life into account.
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Don't just be like, well, I work nine to five
and then I've got all this time. It's like, yeah,
but you also have a family, and you also have
to cook, or you have to clean or these things
are actually really important because there's been many times and
I feel still carry a bit of guilt, to be
honest about it all, where I've been so overwhelmed by
so many different things that I'm damn so sorry I've
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been so overwhelmed by so many different things. Is that
I've been doing that I've just like neglected my wife
or not taking my dog for walk, you know, And
those things are so much more important still then the
side hustle. But I think when you are maybe in
a situation like me where you've been just trying to
pay off debt or you're looking for cash or whatever
it is. You're just trying to pay rent. The side
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hustle feels like it's the most important thing ever, but
really at the end of the day, like there are
a lot of more important things, and that's a brutal
thing that I've had to learn um and just working
at your baseline. This is where we can tie back
into the savings thing. If you're trying to start a
side hustle with debt, you're going to have a really
really hard time, like a really really hard time brutally
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because every dollar that comes in isn't yours. You've got
to pay that back to someone. That's somebody else's dollar.
So you can't reinvest into what you're hustling into that
side hust So I don't know if you think about
side of side hustle, just make sure that, yeah, you've
got your finances in order to have some savings. The
best feeling, Like I just bought this new camera. I've
been talking about a billion times all over the place
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of all this new camera. It comes today. I'm just
jacked about it, right, But I was able to buy
that camera, like that was I'm not buying that out
of guilt of like that's it. And so it's like, Okay,
this is my camera to reinvest in right now, my hustle,
which is just making daily videos because I just freaking
love it. And that's where the joy of a side
hustle is so important, where it's like you just why
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are you doing it? Do you just love it? Then great?
If it makes money, don't. But in the meantime, refine
and refine and and get better at it. Um. And
if you've got twelve different side hustles and you're wondering
where none of them working, it's because you've got twelve
different side us. It's hard to add all those together
to add break James's face chat every time Chad's like
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did I get it right? And games just like it's
it's like that dog meme where like the Huskies like, yeah, dude,
what were you just talking about? Though? Oh? All the
different side hustles. Okay, yes, all right, guys, welcome back.
Apologize for that. We just have to. It has to
be a joke every time or else it feels funny.
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I know, it just feels like it doesn't work, you know,
it just doesn't add up. Put another one right, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, anyway, exactly,
You're just talking about having like if you have twelve
side hustles, none of them are gonna work because you
have twelve side hustles, which is something that I'm I've
been working on myself on how to simplify all of
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these different verticals that I have word vertical and essentialism. Dude,
you're freaking put me on that book and game all
my life changing everything. And then you talked about in
the podcast at the beginning of the podcast, what was
it was like in the same vein about freak me Sorry,
no no, no, no, no, no no, what was it?
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I literally had it too anyway, I don't remember, So
that's cool. What I was going to say was me
simplifying my side hustles per se, is that I've been
going through the process of like, oh, what you said
was you're adding that's what it was. Wow, there we go.
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Do you want to come back from the No, just
let it roll zacle edited together guy. Before let me
say it before I forget that it takes away you
add the side hustle, don't let it take away from
your main hustle. That's what you said, and that's what
I've experienced for so long, like my main hustle is
like obviously making the YouTube videos and like doing that
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whole thing, like making content, and I added so many
things and I would be so passionate about them, and
then we get so involved with them that it took
away from the main thing. And it was especially with
with what you do as a content creator. It kind
of like you have this career path that all of
a sudden opens up this magical book of opportunity that
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you can do anything and turn it into a revenue stream.
You can sell any product, you can do whatever you
want and turn it into a revenue stream because you
have a built an audience there to buy it or
watch it or whatever. So that happens. We're doing well
on social media, I go, you know, we're selling merch
and I'm like, I'm gonna turn this into a clothing brand.
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And instead of doing what the smart thing would have been,
which I'm kind of realizing now is like bringing on
a company to fully help me run that on the side,
and I can make like big picture, top down decisions
on like vision and what I want for it. But
I'm still doing my day to day while still kind
of allowing this team that has come on to help
me run this thing. I just wanted to get so
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involved because I got so passionate about like clothing, design, fashion,
all these things that I loved, and it took up
so much of my time. And now like I'm in
this transition phase with new worth and everything of like
getting it to this point where there's a team built
around me to help run this amazing clothing brand that
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still enables me to focus on what I need to
focus on, you know what I mean. And the same
thing happened. I don't know, it's with so many things
like that happens with if I if I'm ever auditioning
too much with acting because like I don't know, maybe
I watched a movie where recently where I'm like, man,
I wish I was in that I need to take
more auditions than I just start taking a ton more auditions.
And it's like wait, wait, wait, chill. You can take
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auditions like at a more reasonable pace because you have
this content creator job of like making the videos with
your wife and doing this thing and don't divert your
attention to like these other side hustles that are and
it is very tough when the opportunity is there that
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you know it can kind of be successful because it
just can be right away. Yeah, I don't know anyway,
that's that's my experience. It's good. That's a good example
of like trying to focus in, trying to hone in
on what you've already built, because that's that's the other thing,
is I forget that I've built this thing that works,
and then one day I'll just ditch it for the
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next side hustle. That's not a side hustle. That's distraction. Yeah,
you know, throw that one on reels, put that on tiktoka. Yeah.
I think that's something important to really look out for.
Is it's easy for us to make ourselves busy and
and and thinking that something is actually getting trash and
it's working. Well, it's doing what we wanted to do.
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But it's just a form of us staying busy. Um.
It's almost like, have you guys ever like had something
really important to do, Like I'll just use this example,
like you needed to get work done for one of
your managers or boss or whatever, right, and then you're like,
I'm gonna clean my room real quick. Well, wait, I
gotta go take out the trash. Oh, I have to
pick up something that just I saw. I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
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I'm gonna unload the dishwasher, you know, the never ending
to do list of distractions. Yes, yes, and so don't
let your side hustle become that. And I think that's
what you both were just saying, is don't let your
side hustle become a distraction to you as a way
from you to hide from the big hustle you have
going on, because you know, if you need your your
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side hustle to help you cope with your big hustle,
why are you doing the big hustle? You know? And um,
and I love that Zach was saying earlier in terms
of like realizing that if you start this thing with
if you start a side hustle with debt, that was
probably the most powerful thing I've learned from both of
you this whole episode. It was like starting things with
debt because from both he said it. But but I'm saying,
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like from this from this episode. Sorry, yeah, but I'm
gonna tie it into you now. I'll take the you
have to receive a now because to apply it to you,
you remember our conversation a Whole Foods a few years ago.
Oh yeah, I asked Gabe. I was like, hey, I
want to create an exit plan from modeling because modeling
was my main hustle. But it really wasn't doing what
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I It wasn't giving me the intrinsic satisfaction if filment
you know, you know, I mean, I'm thankful for it
allowed me to travel. You couldn't tell this guy's model
right here you're watching on YouTube. You're welcome, You're welcome,
You're welcome. Oh gosh um. And I asked Gabe to
help me come up with like an exit plan to
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get out of modeling, but I kept so basically what
was happening was the exit plan wasn't exit right away. No,
it was like an eight month plan. And so modeling
was about eight to nine on my income with social
media being around t and I slowly started making modeling
social media thirty in modeling social media fifth. And it
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was a real it was. It was a really difficult
give and take to where I had this conversation with
my friend Kelln, who you know, of guys I really
look up to you, I've learned from there's something that
you did Gabe that really impacted me, And something that
Kellen did that really impacted me. It was your story
with Grace Coffee, which we don't need to get into
right now. But Kellen did something where he made a
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decision within his main hustle that was better for his family,
those better for like his ethos, his ethics, his morality, right,
he made a decision that was really important that for
anyone in the outside looking in, you're like, wait, what
you did? What you know? You? You stopped you? I
don't know if I mean Zake, I'll tell you. If
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you can't say this, I'll text Kellen about it. He
left the show twenty something episodes this season, series regular, right,
he left it. This is better for his family, And
I'm just like, Wow, anyone who's an actor would would
you know? They would kill to be on that show,
to be in that position. But he had a bigger
picture in mine. He kept this bigger picture in mind.
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And I love that and I admire it so much.
That you can't do everything, you can't be everything to everyone.
You have to pick and choose wisely. And so for
me personally, as I'm deciding whither something's going to be
a sidehouse or not. I asked myself if that question.
Zach started with, well, why do you have it? Is
it just because I want to make more money? Why
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don't I try to find a career that can help
me make more money, you know? Or Am I in
it because I want my creative juices to be flowing
and I want to feel passionate about what I'm doing.
Then absolutely that's something you should check into. You should
you should talk to people who are in that same
vein and and start trying to do well with it.
But if you have capital at the beginning, you can
invest into it. Because I'm going back to well saying previously,
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I had a conversation with Kellen about YouTube and Tory
and I we're we're having YouTube was causing issues in
our marriage, and we were like, we need to find
an editor. Well, Kellen's like, well, how much does it
cost to hire an editor? I'm like, well, probably in
this ballpark. This is what I've heard from some of
my friends. And He's like, well, can you afford to
hire an editor for three months and invest in it?
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And I was like, well, I men put it that way, Yeah, yeah,
I can do that. Insert Zach but about you know,
and it's one of those things where it was a
worthy investment, but I had capital at the beginning to try.
But if I were, if I were operating, if I
were chasing a creative side hustle to fill the need
of money, that would be terrible. Can you imagine doing that?
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That would be so difficult to do. And so for
me personally, it really helps that if if your side
hustle is going to be about creativity, then you really
need it to be funded by your main hustle. You
can't try to fund a creative side hustle on its own.
You need to be able to invest into it. And
I think you should always have a plan as well.
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Like that then maybe where we should end. It's like
really structuring a solid plan of actionable steps that are
all you can all you can track each step, you
know what I mean. Like, so you don't like the
job that you're at and you're trying to save money,
so you want to start a side hustle. It's like, okay,
well how long am I going? Like you with modeling?
How long am I going to be at this job?
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Say it is making you money, but you want to exit?
How much can I save per month to exit the
comfortably along with like when should I start the side
hustle and how long do I need to be doing
the side hustle to then turn it into a form
of income or how much capital do I need to
invest into the side hustle, because then that dictates how
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much I need to save from the main hustle I
have now, and just create those actionable steps of like, Okay,
this is the end goal of what I want. Now
let's work backwards and be like, Okay, this in order
to get to that, I need to do this before that,
and then I need do this before that, I need
to do this before that, and just kind of create
that plan out like you're saying. And it's the same
with saving money. It's you create the actionable us uh,
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the actionable plan that step by step to help you
save money that Lord knows, you know, who knows you
may be able to start an incredible side hushole with
that savings that you're creating. And one of the best
things is knowing that you you don't need to make
a lot of money to save money. You need to
be consistent with saving a little bit every day or
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every week, and just that little bit, and overtime you
just put it away, put it away, and over time
it'll just start growing and growing and growing, and you
just put it away and don't look at it, don't
touch it. That I mean, that happened with with jessin
I's retirement. We you know, we started a retirement account,
you know, like five years ago when we got married,
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and it's just like every month was just okay, we
put this much away every month, every month, every month,
and then all of a sudden, it's like five years later,
I look at him like, oh my gosh, and with
you know, the the what the heck is the percentage
that you get on that you make back in your
retirement account? What is that called? Well, the percentage back um,
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the compounding or compounding? Yeah, interesting, eighth wonder of the world.
Oh my gosh, why had the biggest brain fart? I
should not be on a podcast. Uh, let me have this, mike, anyway, kidding.
I bought it myself by my wife's brand deals. All right,
it's happy birthday to me have have a partner that
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makes a lot of money cash. What was I even saying? Anyway,
over time we're putting away in our retirement and then
all of a sudden you look back five years later.
If I look back a month later, it's not you
know what I mean. And if I'm looking at it's
not realistic at the little app every day, looking at
the number, it's not. It's not. It doesn't. It's like
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going to the gym and then thirty minutes later looking
in the mirror and exciting results. If you just put
in that little bit every day, just that one more
percent in a day, one more percent a day, one
more percent in a day. By the end of a
hundred days, just a little over three months, you will
then be one better than when you started. Yo, what's up? Guys?
Thank you so much for watching this episode of prompt Us.
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three two. Welcome back everybody to the prompt Us Podcast.
I am your host, Gabriel Conti, and I am here
ready to learn with you and grow with you today.
And I am here. This is the correct part that
I'm going to say now, because I kind of messed
up the intro. I am here with my co hosts
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Chad and Zach on the other side of the pond
slash globe. Zack, I'm noticing that you're wearing a pretty
cool sweater. I am Brod. I'm wearing some blong. Oh
my gosh, wait you, I'm This is Sebastian Gomez his podcast.
And that's my merch. Oh my gosh. Friends helping friends,
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Iron sharpening iron. It's the set up, baby, it's the
final count and by and by by ironing, sharpening iron
bank accounts helping your bank account, which also leads to
the prompt. Actually, I thought I sent that for frisk
that's it costs me money? Yeah cool, one of the
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provocate boys. All right, today's prompt before I jump in,
don't forget to meet your problems prompt podcast dot Com. Alright,
so today's prompt is from Tash all the way on
my side of the world. Sunshine Coast. Let's go. It's
really nice up there, you guys, being the Sunshine Coast
real quick. I got married there, bro. Oh yeah, you
get good photos. That's I got married there on the
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coast though, like a little little west in the hill,
bush in the hill, a little bit on the bush.
In the hinter lands. They call that the hinter lands,
Sunny coast, hinter lands, the sunny Oh that was good, yeah, bro, whatever,
I'm out here. I was in Australia for like three months,
all right, chill was Zach talking? Just then? Was that
(01:55):
game Zach talking? It's almost like that meme where I
see no different, They're they're the same. You're the office
mean with Pam or whatever. Okay, I got you, all right.
So Tash Tash brought up two great prompts, so I
think we should try and combine them. And by me
thinking and we should combine them, I mean we made
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the decision to combine them. Their first prompt was side hustles.
What are good side hustles? What's a what's a good
side hustle to have? I don't really know, but we're
gonna give that one track. The second one was if
there's someone, dude, it's just gonna be forty minutes of
me talking about all the side hustles that didn't work.
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And then the second half or the second prompt that
Tash sent through was about saving. So let's try and
combine them, because I think saving yourself saving what? What's that? Well,
it's saving what kind of saving yourself? Marriage? That would
be a weird side hustle, and waiting until marriage is
(02:57):
definitely two topics. I don't know good, Maybe they don't.
Saving the world wait until marriage is a full time hustle.
By the way, it's that's full time job on steroids.
I'm pretty confident Tasha's talking about saving more money. So look,
let's try and combine them because I feel like most
people who want to have a side hustle are trying
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to generate more revenue. And I think there's not a
lot of point generating more revenue if you're just spending
all of it. I think investing it, saving it is
probably a good shout. So, boys, what's some good side hustles?
How we go around and talk about ones that haven't
worked for us? True? All right, did you want to
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start with the sun. Start with me, fam you guys stop.
I love Zach immediately he's just like uncomfortable, Like it's
just it's like being a sweat, just one drip. This
ain't on me, bro. So I guess before we talk
about like specific side hustles, it's kind of we have
to come down to terms with like how much time
do we have for this side hustle and is it
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going to actually have a return, because there's been things
that I think all three of us have started that
while we think it's a good idea, we we already
have a lot of side going on, you know what
I mean, So like how a comment, there's a lot
of commitments, and so while I think this was like
a good idea, I don't think it was a healthy
thing because now it's impacting all the other things I
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have going you know, all the little side you know
projects or hustles or whatever. Now they're impacting my main hustle,
my main project. And so I think it's important to
kind of know, well, how much time do you have
because as you're choosing the side hustle, obviously going to
yard sales on a Saturday morning and trying to flip
them on Facebook market places a lot easier time wise
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than you know, daily vlogging Zack. Maybe that's what I
need to do, and maybe thats what the vlugs are about.
Maybe I need to just blog side hustles. That's pretty good.
Oh my gosh, it's like micro from Dirty Jobs. But
you do like like side that dude side to Okay,
business meeting right now, bring it in. It made me
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think of that, or like the guy he's doing something,
he's losing the video game. Then he whenever he starts losing,
he sits up and take it seriously, we are just
sat where were we? Well? I can jump in with
some side hustles real quick because I did the garage
sale thing a lot did. Actually, my boy Adam and
I would go around all the time. My big one
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that I would do is try and find old camera lenses.
And then what I would do is by bulk adapters
on Amazon. So they were like thirty cents each and
so I would sell. So say the camera lands I
bought it for twenty dollars, I would sell for thirty dollars,
but because I include a cannon adapter, I would charge
another thirty dollars because I went out of the way
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to get that adapter and people bought it all the time,
but it was it was a hustle, like like taking
nice photos of lenses is like a weird part of
the process. And also just like talking to photographers like
no shade on photographers, but you guys stress me out.
It is like all about the sharpness, Like, guys, what's
going on? But yeah, so that was kind of one
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of the ones, like literally that example that use Chad
where like it was easy to go do, but it's
a really slow return and I think you've got to
think about why you're doing the side hustle is it
because it's just a blast. Because the great thing about
money is that if we treat it like a resource,
just like time and energy, money can be with something
that's really fun to make, and you kind of it
should be something that's really fun to make. It should
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be really fun to make money. So hey, I'm gonna
like Chelsea right now, my wife. I say my wife
Chelsea as if people don't know it already, but if
it's your first time, welcome back to promptest subscribe. Wife
is Chelsea. Um, but right now she where she's been
like buying jars and then making them like terra cotta
like pots and jars, and it's just like she just
(06:58):
loves it. And I'm like, baby, you could freaking scale
it with some nice branding and like people would pay
heapes for that, because like I just like painting. I'm like,
that's probably fair enough. Like that's okay too, you know.
So it's not a side hustle of her, but it
could turn into a side hustle. So I think really
thinking about why why have the side hustle? Is it
fully like a monetary thing or is it because it's
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just a blossom. I think it's important because that that
would change the way you approach it. That goes into
the whole saving things too, write because when when I
was thinking about this before this topic, specifically before we
recorded the podcast, I was thinking, like saving money, if
you need to like make more money to save There's
so many different factors that could play into that, like
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how much do you need to save, how much more
money do you need to make, what money do you
make already? Like where are you at in life that
like what is your financial obligation at the moment? And
it's literally you don't have a good job, maybe it's
just get a better job, and you don't need to
actually out of side hustle. You just need to actually
get a new job, you know what I mean. Or
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or you have you're in a job that you're loving
and you want to stay there, then maybe at the
side hustle if you have the time, or if you're
in school, Like technically I was in school full time.
When I was in school, you know, I was getting
my acting degree, and my side hustle was doing social
media stuff, you know, and and I was obviously able
to scale that side hustle to be my full time thing,
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which I've been doing for almost a decade. Blows my mind.
Eight years I've been doing freaking social media. Makes me
feel like, I don't know, it's like cool, I'm like Grandma,
I'm seasoned. And I'm also like, oh my gosh, not
in Kansas anymore anyway. Um yeah, yeah, just like really either. Oh.
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I was just I was just gonna jump in real
quick because I think it's important to know it. Like,
there's something you said to me a few years ago
when I was struggling with all my debt and my
money stuff and I'm sure I said this in the
podcast before, but it was like, Bro, it is always
about the percentages. It doesn't matter how much money it's
coming in coming out, it's about the percent and what
you're using every dollar for. I was like, well, that
changed literally the game for me because it made me
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realize that if I made a million bucks tomorrow, my
problems would still be the same. So starting a side
hustle with the intention to make a million bucks tomorrow
is actually distracting me from getting other things in order.
So I just want to say that because that you
remind me of that when you're talking about um, yeah,
I mean biblically, it's all percentages to like when when
you hear about finances or like giving ten percent right
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tithe Um, it doesn't matter if you make ten dollars
or ten million dollars, Like the ten percent is ten percent,
and he who is good with a little will be
good with a lot. Yeah yeah, and it's and you think,
but then you think, like if you're not making a
lot and being generous and stuff, it's like, oh, I
don't make and this I guess this isn't really exactly
what the topic is, but I think it's important. If
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you're not making a lot, you're like, oh, what is
my you know, I only make Maybe you're a college student,
you make like five thousand dollars a year off of
your part time jobs, where so I don't know whatever,
and you're like, oh me of my like weekly paycheck.
I can't like it's not really contributing anything, and also
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I can't afford to do that. You're already practicing the
habits that are going to make you not generous and
sting you with your money down the line, even though
you're you're not making a lot. And maybe technically you're
not stingy because you're not making a lot, but you're
putting in the habits and practice to when you start
making more money, you are going to be what you're
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creating for yourself essentially, where if you're like, you know what,
I'm going to operate in those percentages. And that's what
Jess and I have And we work with my brother
who like helps us with our finances and everything. But
I made a full like flow chart of like where
the money comes in, it goes into our business, make
account we make you know, the business makes this and
gets paid out to us certain percentage, the percentage then
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get split ten percent here like for tithe, this percentage
goes to savings, and it doesn't matter. You know what
we make that month. Some months were able to make
five times the amount that we made the month before,
But the percentages still sack up the way they do,
and the percentages go into each bucket and it just
makes it easy. So if you're able to figure out
what you're I guess what your living expenses are and
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and all of that kind of create a budget and
a plan of like this is how much I need
to make to survive and that amount and then you
and then you yeah, and then you align that with
like how much you're making and formulate a plan like, oh,
I really I only make enough to survive. I am
not making enough to actually plan ahead. I either need
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to add that side hustle if I do want to save,
or I need to get a new job that pays
me more so I can actually, yeah, change your lifestyle
scale back. Yeah, that's a third one. It makes me
think of Richard Poor Dad, which is a book that
I think it's changed so many people's life to change mind.
And so if you're listening to this and you're looking
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for a very entry entry, entry level finance book on
how to take control of your finance and how to understand. Um,
this is gonna sound very vague, but like are very
cliche what the rich teach their kids, this is a
great book for you. And so there's this whole mentality
inside the book, which is pay yourself first. And the
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idea is is that what happens when people get paid
is they will pay their mortgage or rent okay, then
they pay their insurances, and they pay their car payment,
then they pay their groceries, then they pay your to
their utilities, then they pay off their groceries, and then
with what's left over, they will either save or have
fun with Whoops, that's my alarm. Sorry, now you're fine.
(12:47):
So so people will either I'm really sorry. Are you
so sorry? You have like six more interruptions before we're equal. Yeah,
last from last on. So you're still playing with house money.
So so basically, with what people at the very end
of their check, they either save if they have any
(13:09):
left money, um left over, or they spend it on
doing something fun. But what he's saying is whose happiness
matters more? Your happiness or your bill collector's happiness. So
he said, you should write yourself a check the first
of each month, for Chad wants a new car, or
Tory wants a vacation, or Zach wants a new music studio. Right,
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and so you write yourself a check and then at
the end of that like paycheck, if you don't have
enough money to to add in that check for you
at the beginning to add oh my gosh, oh my gosh,
you have to can you tell I was like waiting
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for a s oh yeah, like ten minutes ago. I
was like, games about to drop it. He's been waiting
for it this whole time. Well, okay, so so I
I meant a different ad than the ad that gave
meant like add and subtract. Yes, yes, that's what I meant.
So so so to recap on that. So, if you've
paid yourself first, and you pay all your other stuff
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as you go throughout using that check. If you don't
have enough money, you either a find a way to
make more money a side hustles, or be you start
cutting fat right, you cancel your Netflix is you know,
you start you start cooking and meal prepping at home,
You start doing things to save you more money. And
I just love the idea that that putting what you
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want first. You know, putting that first is really important
because if you put it last, you're always going to
put it off. And so as someone develops the idea
of potentially having a side hustle, it's back to Zach's
original question, which is, well, what do you want? Do
you want to side hustle? Is it because you want
to pursue a creative outlet? Like there's so many people
(14:54):
crushing at right just crushing at the game, Like Chelsea
would probably crush it. I don't know if she's Etsy
or not, but there's so many creative people that if they,
if they, if if they would monetize their creativity in
a healthy way. Now, granted we're not saying go out
there and ruined something that brings you joy, but we're
letting you know that you could potentially do it more
(15:15):
full time because they paint you a really, in my opinion,
a beautiful picture. My wife and I started YouTube as
something on the side. It was something that we love
encouraging people, we love communicating with people, and we love
talking about God. Well we were doing that all on
our Instagram, d m s and people were asking the
same questions. So we're like, well, what if we recorded
(15:37):
a video and posted it on YouTube and then whenever
someone asks us the question, like, hey, here's that YouTube
video that we already recorded on the topic that you're
asking about. And then now it's our full time job,
and so we're still balancing that, you know, something that
we love and now monetizing it and like making money
off of it, right, And so there is there's definitely
(15:58):
like a healthy balance because I think you've said to
me one time game that if you can monetize anything,
you'll monetize everything, and it's that guard you need to
have a guard rail for that. That's what I have. Literally,
that's what I've done and then and I've talked about
it with like Formula one that that it's like the
first it always comes around the Formula one round. But
that no, no, that was like the first thing in
(16:19):
a long time that I wasn't monetizing myself because any
passion that I had, I was like, I can monetize this,
and then I would where even when when for me
one started happening and started happening, when I started getting
into formula one. Um it was I don't know. You
kind of have the thought like, oh maybe I can
(16:40):
like play the video games and starts streaming it and
stuff like that, which is fun. Yeah, or like try
and make it into into a thing where it's like
become part of my job that I've just taken a
hobby and turned it into like a form of work.
A blessing got turned into a burden. Yeah, yeah, and
not that all, not that work as a burden's specifically,
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but there are things that you that do need to
stay in the vertical of Like this is strictly just hobby.
I enjoy it, it's for entertainment whatever. It's for me
to switch off and focus on this when I'm to
not focus on work because so many things like passionate
amount acting, Check that's work. Passionate amount music, Check that's work.
(17:25):
Passionate about filmmaking, check, that's work. Podcast, passionate about talking
with my friends check that's where you know what I mean?
Like all of the boxes are checked for like what
is now considered work and finding the line of like
do you actually which is great? That chouse is just
like no, I just want to paint my little pots
and that's no for me, you know what I mean? Yeah,
I really admire that because I never one time. Tori
(17:47):
called me out once in a good way where we
were at our old apartment in Los Angeles, and I
feel like if I were, um, like like an Instagram
guy where like I actually posted super aesthetic stuff, I
would crush it, because freaking guy the confidence. I'll tell
you why. I went and bought a vintage orange juice squeezer,
(18:11):
and then I bought like a sack of these organic
scranges from this kid's charity or whatever. Then I cut
them all purpose perfectly down the middle, and then I
laid them out on the counter and I'm hand squeezing
these because I wanted hand squeeze orange juice. And Tory
walks out the morning and then Tory walks out, She's like, Babe,
why are you not filming this? This is so like
(18:32):
aesthetically satisfying. It's like you know these like videos people
watch where it's just wow, I can't stop watching this
because I love the process is happening here. I'm like,
I just wanted hand squeeze orange juice. So I'm doing
this is for me. This is this is for Papa.
Know this one's for Daddy. But it's a thing where
you do really have to be careful because you know,
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some people do need to keep their creative stuff just
their creative stuff, because it's a sort of inspiration for
every other area of their life. Right, And so there's
definitely a like a a tight rope where if you
are wondering should you monetize something? I would connect with
people who are doing something similar, Like, I know this
sounds like a weird long shot, but imagine that you
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do really cool um what's it called? Me? Do? Like
handwriting stuff, calligraphy. If you do calligraphy, that stuff sells
like hotcakes on on Etsy message a shop owner say, Hey,
I love what you do. Have you ever struggled with
like monetizing off something that you are just so naturally
talented at and it's just a form of art, and like,
you know, that's just one example. But reach out to
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people in that same space to ask them, has this
been difficult for you to transition this into a business? Yeah?
And dude, I want to hear Zach and you talk
about stuff specifically, especially like even now, I would love
for you to break down all of your different verticals
that you're our work for you right now, because you
do have so many that like, technically they're all still
(19:55):
side hustles because of them. What a vertical is, You're
you're different like lanes. I guess, so your different buckets
that you're making money from the bucket, you know what
I mean, Like you're different streams of revenue vertical. Yeah,
so what are your what are those things and kind
kind of like the story of those things and how
they all fit in, how you got to the point
(20:15):
where you could actually generate revenue from them. Yeah. I mean,
first off, my main revenue, my main income stream is
my wife. And I love that. I was so ready
for something so serious, you know, kind of like I just, oh,
my gosh. We all have a bread winning wife, don't we.
(20:36):
Literally I'm sitting here like pimping out my office for
like Amazon stuff, and I'm just like, oh yeah, just
as brandial money came in sick pay day for me.
Oh my gosh. I mean, all right, let me try
and break this down. Um. It's funny because I think
I'm the first time in a long time my side
hustles actually actually have become kind of main things like
(20:59):
main kind of an actual little bit of a business structure,
which is super exciting and so um yeah, Okay, at
the moment, what am I working on? So I do
a lot of editing at the moment, which has been
I guess it's crazy this. I would say this podcast
got me back into editing again, which is so dope
and so like looking back, it's like, oh wow, I
edit this every week. I could probably use this skill
(21:21):
set help out some friends. So it helped out with
Toran Chad, which is awesome. I still work with those guys.
And then it's just those random guys, those people. You
guys might know him, Chad, Chad Masters, you might know him.
But and I love that because it's like it's back
(21:41):
for last episode. But there was a point and and
and I've actually had to back up on this. I'm
glad we're talking about this because I can use this
as an example of too many side hustles. But there
was a point where in one week I would edit
for I would do client work edit, I'd work a
day at my church, I would write and would and
sing for you tell people what client work edit means.
(22:04):
That's editing YouTube videos for three different YouTube channels, multiple
videos a week, yes, but then also client work like
web development stuff, so just like designing websites of people
who need it, or like just any kind of design work.
I used to do heaps of stuff with Grace Coffee
back in the day, which is super cute, and I'm
like that was such a blast. I remember doing all
(22:26):
that stuff. That was a side hustle Legit was like,
just tell me what you need and so. But I
would also in my week would be, um, yeah, my
week is so it's so messy yet, but it's it's refining,
which is good. But yeah, so editing client work like
doing websites stuff, music stuff, I would I would write
songs and record and um send them off to DJs,
(22:48):
like heaps of random European DJs. That was like a
main income stream for a long time. Um my own
stuff like royalties from my own music. And then I
added in my YouTube channel and I was like, okay,
I really am Having my YouTube channel was just so
much fun that I'm like, I have to get rid
of something here because this is just going to burn
me out super quick. And it did, and that's kind
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of what happened with my music stuff and I think
the point of me sharing all this is that it's
really good to have multiple income streams. It's really dangerous
to not be focused on a few things, being a
jack of all trades, which is a zack of all trades.
Let's go this guy is guy's super fun Yeah, the
tech guy. That's my that's my sixth SID. I didn't
(23:31):
bring it back when you get him a shirt? That
would be so funny. You know, National Treasure, You know
how rem National Treasure like Nicholas Cage and the other
guy Riley the bathroom that's me right now. I mean,
I'm in the bathroom just like I've got my phone
stuck to the wall and I'm just like coding right now.
But get the National Treasure was my jam was the
(23:55):
best dude? Um, But yeah, I guess the point of
me saying all these things is that there can be
a lot of success in pivoting quickly, but there can
also be a lot of emotional stress from not refining
one craft. And so right now my main focus is
communication because the podcast, the podcast was a side hustle
for a big like it still is technically in the
(24:16):
sense of like just another kind of thing that I
get to work on. I'm definitely more passionate about the
podcast than I am I guess about web development to
be honest, like, um, but yeah, it's the more that
you add to your plate, the less kind of you're
going to feel like you can invest into something. So
I don't know if you think about doing side hustles,
like just just take every take your whole life into account.
(24:37):
Don't just be like, well, I work nine to five
and then I've got all this time. It's like, yeah,
but you also have a family, and you also have
to cook, or you have to clean or these things
are actually really important because there's been many times and
I feel still carry a bit of guilt, to be
honest about it all, where I've been so overwhelmed by
so many different things that I'm damn so sorry I've
(24:58):
been so overwhelmed by so many different things. Is that
I've been doing that I've just like neglected my wife
or not taking my dog for walk, you know, And
those things are so much more important still then the
side hustle. But I think when you are maybe in
a situation like me where you've been just trying to
pay off debt or you're looking for cash or whatever
it is. You're just trying to pay rent. The side
(25:19):
hustle feels like it's the most important thing ever, but
really at the end of the day, like there are
a lot of more important things, and that's a brutal
thing that I've had to learn um and just working
at your baseline. This is where we can tie back
into the savings thing. If you're trying to start a
side hustle with debt, you're going to have a really
really hard time, like a really really hard time brutally
(25:40):
because every dollar that comes in isn't yours. You've got
to pay that back to someone. That's somebody else's dollar.
So you can't reinvest into what you're hustling into that
side hust So I don't know if you think about
side of side hustle, just make sure that, yeah, you've
got your finances in order to have some savings. The
best feeling, Like I just bought this new camera. I've
been talking about a billion times all over the place
(26:01):
of all this new camera. It comes today. I'm just
jacked about it, right, But I was able to buy
that camera, like that was I'm not buying that out
of guilt of like that's it. And so it's like, Okay,
this is my camera to reinvest in right now, my hustle,
which is just making daily videos because I just freaking
love it. And that's where the joy of a side
hustle is so important, where it's like you just why
(26:21):
are you doing it? Do you just love it? Then great?
If it makes money, don't. But in the meantime, refine
and refine and and get better at it. Um. And
if you've got twelve different side hustles and you're wondering
where none of them working, it's because you've got twelve
different side us. It's hard to add all those together
to add break James's face chat every time Chad's like
(26:48):
did I get it right? And games just like it's
it's like that dog meme where like the Huskies like, yeah, dude,
what were you just talking about? Though? Oh? All the
different side hustles. Okay, yes, all right, guys, welcome back.
Apologize for that. We just have to. It has to
be a joke every time or else it feels funny.
(27:10):
I know, it just feels like it doesn't work, you know,
it just doesn't add up. Put another one right, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, anyway, exactly,
You're just talking about having like if you have twelve
side hustles, none of them are gonna work because you
have twelve side hustles, which is something that I'm I've
been working on myself on how to simplify all of
(27:32):
these different verticals that I have word vertical and essentialism. Dude,
you're freaking put me on that book and game all
my life changing everything. And then you talked about in
the podcast at the beginning of the podcast, what was
it was like in the same vein about freak me Sorry,
no no, no, no, no, no no, what was it?
(27:55):
I literally had it too anyway, I don't remember, So
that's cool. What I was going to say was me
simplifying my side hustles per se, is that I've been
going through the process of like, oh, what you said
was you're adding that's what it was. Wow, there we go.
(28:17):
Do you want to come back from the No, just
let it roll zacle edited together guy. Before let me
say it before I forget that it takes away you
add the side hustle, don't let it take away from
your main hustle. That's what you said, and that's what
I've experienced for so long, like my main hustle is
like obviously making the YouTube videos and like doing that
(28:37):
whole thing, like making content, and I added so many
things and I would be so passionate about them, and
then we get so involved with them that it took
away from the main thing. And it was especially with
with what you do as a content creator. It kind
of like you have this career path that all of
a sudden opens up this magical book of opportunity that
(28:59):
you can do anything and turn it into a revenue stream.
You can sell any product, you can do whatever you
want and turn it into a revenue stream because you
have a built an audience there to buy it or
watch it or whatever. So that happens. We're doing well
on social media, I go, you know, we're selling merch
and I'm like, I'm gonna turn this into a clothing brand.
(29:20):
And instead of doing what the smart thing would have been,
which I'm kind of realizing now is like bringing on
a company to fully help me run that on the side,
and I can make like big picture, top down decisions
on like vision and what I want for it. But
I'm still doing my day to day while still kind
of allowing this team that has come on to help
me run this thing. I just wanted to get so
(29:42):
involved because I got so passionate about like clothing, design, fashion,
all these things that I loved, and it took up
so much of my time. And now like I'm in
this transition phase with new worth and everything of like
getting it to this point where there's a team built
around me to help run this amazing clothing brand that
(30:03):
still enables me to focus on what I need to
focus on, you know what I mean. And the same
thing happened. I don't know, it's with so many things
like that happens with if I if I'm ever auditioning
too much with acting because like I don't know, maybe
I watched a movie where recently where I'm like, man,
I wish I was in that I need to take
more auditions than I just start taking a ton more auditions.
And it's like wait, wait, wait, chill. You can take
(30:24):
auditions like at a more reasonable pace because you have
this content creator job of like making the videos with
your wife and doing this thing and don't divert your
attention to like these other side hustles that are and
it is very tough when the opportunity is there that
(30:48):
you know it can kind of be successful because it
just can be right away. Yeah, I don't know anyway,
that's that's my experience. It's good. That's a good example
of like trying to focus in, trying to hone in
on what you've already built, because that's that's the other thing,
is I forget that I've built this thing that works,
and then one day I'll just ditch it for the
(31:08):
next side hustle. That's not a side hustle. That's distraction. Yeah,
you know, throw that one on reels, put that on tiktoka. Yeah.
I think that's something important to really look out for.
Is it's easy for us to make ourselves busy and
and and thinking that something is actually getting trash and
it's working. Well, it's doing what we wanted to do.
(31:29):
But it's just a form of us staying busy. Um.
It's almost like, have you guys ever like had something
really important to do, Like I'll just use this example,
like you needed to get work done for one of
your managers or boss or whatever, right, and then you're like,
I'm gonna clean my room real quick. Well, wait, I
gotta go take out the trash. Oh, I have to
pick up something that just I saw. I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
(31:50):
I'm gonna unload the dishwasher, you know, the never ending
to do list of distractions. Yes, yes, and so don't
let your side hustle become that. And I think that's
what you both were just saying, is don't let your
side hustle become a distraction to you as a way
from you to hide from the big hustle you have
going on, because you know, if you need your your
(32:13):
side hustle to help you cope with your big hustle,
why are you doing the big hustle? You know? And um,
and I love that Zach was saying earlier in terms
of like realizing that if you start this thing with
if you start a side hustle with debt, that was
probably the most powerful thing I've learned from both of
you this whole episode. It was like starting things with
debt because from both he said it. But but I'm saying,
(32:34):
like from this from this episode. Sorry, yeah, but I'm
gonna tie it into you now. I'll take the you
have to receive a now because to apply it to you,
you remember our conversation a Whole Foods a few years ago.
Oh yeah, I asked Gabe. I was like, hey, I
want to create an exit plan from modeling because modeling
was my main hustle. But it really wasn't doing what
(32:56):
I It wasn't giving me the intrinsic satisfaction if filment
you know, you know, I mean, I'm thankful for it
allowed me to travel. You couldn't tell this guy's model
right here you're watching on YouTube. You're welcome, You're welcome,
You're welcome. Oh gosh um. And I asked Gabe to
help me come up with like an exit plan to
(33:17):
get out of modeling, but I kept so basically what
was happening was the exit plan wasn't exit right away. No,
it was like an eight month plan. And so modeling
was about eight to nine on my income with social
media being around t and I slowly started making modeling
social media thirty in modeling social media fifth. And it
(33:39):
was a real it was. It was a really difficult
give and take to where I had this conversation with
my friend Kelln, who you know, of guys I really
look up to you, I've learned from there's something that
you did Gabe that really impacted me, And something that
Kellen did that really impacted me. It was your story
with Grace Coffee, which we don't need to get into
right now. But Kellen did something where he made a
(34:01):
decision within his main hustle that was better for his family,
those better for like his ethos, his ethics, his morality, right,
he made a decision that was really important that for
anyone in the outside looking in, you're like, wait, what
you did? What you know? You? You stopped you? I
don't know if I mean Zake, I'll tell you. If
(34:23):
you can't say this, I'll text Kellen about it. He
left the show twenty something episodes this season, series regular, right,
he left it. This is better for his family, And
I'm just like, Wow, anyone who's an actor would would
you know? They would kill to be on that show,
to be in that position. But he had a bigger
picture in mine. He kept this bigger picture in mind.
(34:44):
And I love that and I admire it so much.
That you can't do everything, you can't be everything to everyone.
You have to pick and choose wisely. And so for
me personally, as I'm deciding whither something's going to be
a sidehouse or not. I asked myself if that question.
Zach started with, well, why do you have it? Is
it just because I want to make more money? Why
(35:04):
don't I try to find a career that can help
me make more money, you know? Or Am I in
it because I want my creative juices to be flowing
and I want to feel passionate about what I'm doing.
Then absolutely that's something you should check into. You should
you should talk to people who are in that same
vein and and start trying to do well with it.
But if you have capital at the beginning, you can
invest into it. Because I'm going back to well saying previously,
(35:27):
I had a conversation with Kellen about YouTube and Tory
and I we're we're having YouTube was causing issues in
our marriage, and we were like, we need to find
an editor. Well, Kellen's like, well, how much does it
cost to hire an editor? I'm like, well, probably in
this ballpark. This is what I've heard from some of
my friends. And He's like, well, can you afford to
hire an editor for three months and invest in it?
(35:49):
And I was like, well, I men put it that way, Yeah, yeah,
I can do that. Insert Zach but about you know,
and it's one of those things where it was a
worthy investment, but I had capital at the beginning to try.
But if I were, if I were operating, if I
were chasing a creative side hustle to fill the need
of money, that would be terrible. Can you imagine doing that?
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That would be so difficult to do. And so for
me personally, it really helps that if if your side
hustle is going to be about creativity, then you really
need it to be funded by your main hustle. You
can't try to fund a creative side hustle on its own.
You need to be able to invest into it. And
I think you should always have a plan as well.
(36:33):
Like that then maybe where we should end. It's like
really structuring a solid plan of actionable steps that are
all you can all you can track each step, you
know what I mean. Like, so you don't like the
job that you're at and you're trying to save money,
so you want to start a side hustle. It's like, okay,
well how long am I going? Like you with modeling?
How long am I going to be at this job?
(36:54):
Say it is making you money, but you want to exit?
How much can I save per month to exit the
comfortably along with like when should I start the side
hustle and how long do I need to be doing
the side hustle to then turn it into a form
of income or how much capital do I need to
invest into the side hustle, because then that dictates how
(37:15):
much I need to save from the main hustle I
have now, and just create those actionable steps of like, Okay,
this is the end goal of what I want. Now
let's work backwards and be like, Okay, this in order
to get to that, I need to do this before that,
and then I need do this before that, I need
to do this before that, and just kind of create
that plan out like you're saying. And it's the same
with saving money. It's you create the actionable us uh,
(37:38):
the actionable plan that step by step to help you
save money that Lord knows, you know, who knows you
may be able to start an incredible side hushole with
that savings that you're creating. And one of the best
things is knowing that you you don't need to make
a lot of money to save money. You need to
be consistent with saving a little bit every day or
(38:04):
every week, and just that little bit, and overtime you
just put it away, put it away, and over time
it'll just start growing and growing and growing, and you
just put it away and don't look at it, don't
touch it. That I mean, that happened with with jessin
I's retirement. We you know, we started a retirement account,
you know, like five years ago when we got married,
(38:27):
and it's just like every month was just okay, we
put this much away every month, every month, every month,
and then all of a sudden, it's like five years later,
I look at him like, oh my gosh, and with
you know, the the what the heck is the percentage
that you get on that you make back in your
retirement account? What is that called? Well, the percentage back um,
(38:48):
the compounding or compounding? Yeah, interesting, eighth wonder of the world.
Oh my gosh, why had the biggest brain fart? I
should not be on a podcast. Uh, let me have this, mike, anyway, kidding.
I bought it myself by my wife's brand deals. All right,
it's happy birthday to me have have a partner that
(39:13):
makes a lot of money cash. What was I even saying? Anyway,
over time we're putting away in our retirement and then
all of a sudden you look back five years later.
If I look back a month later, it's not you
know what I mean. And if I'm looking at it's
not realistic at the little app every day, looking at
the number, it's not. It's not. It doesn't. It's like
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going to the gym and then thirty minutes later looking
in the mirror and exciting results. If you just put
in that little bit every day, just that one more
percent in a day, one more percent a day, one
more percent in a day. By the end of a
hundred days, just a little over three months, you will
then be one better than when you started. Yo, what's up? Guys?
Thank you so much for watching this episode of prompt Us.
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