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December 13, 2021 44 mins

The lads open up about what they were looking for in a partner and the challenges of dating!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Prompt Us is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome
back to the prompt Us podcast. You may have heard
of us talked about these episodes in previous episodes of
the podcast. The lost tapes are episodes that we recorded
before Lockdown, before we couldn't visit each other, which makes
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(00:22):
to the prompt Us podcast. Where you start the conversation.
We will be discussing topics focusing on personal, spiritual, and
professional growth. I am Gabriel Conti, and to my left
we have your favorite Smash Brothers characters, Zachary Stains, and
to our rights we have of glass half full of

(00:43):
water Chad Masters. Zach has like all these things prepared,
and just like he always chat for a lim I'm
just like, wow, I need to say, like, okay, maybe
I'm the optimistic one, so my glass half full. But
then I just said a glass half of water, the
last half full of water? Chat, how are we doing?

(01:04):
We're doing good? Doing better now? After that delicious intro,
oh yeah, I just had a heap of cookies and
my buddy is struggling anyway, So we we're feeling great
around around now. Um, if you don't know or you
haven't been here before, basically what we do is, uh,
we are directed to talk based off we're directed to speak.

(01:26):
Welcome to the podcast. No, we have three prompts sitting
on the table that we're submitted by the audience themselves,
and they are directing us to talk about a specific topic. Now.
We have three prompts on the table which we have
not seen before, and they are on these cards that
I have in my hand right now. We don't know
what We don't know what is on any of these

(01:49):
cards right now because my beautiful wife Jess, and Zach's
beautiful fiance Chelsea, and a few other people who were involved, Yeah, Tory,
my wife, Chad's wife, and a beautiful friend and our
vitiful friend Jake. We're just naming everyone every podcast was involved.
Pick these prompts without us, no wing, without telling us anything,

(02:09):
and we are pulling one from this stack of three
to discuss what today's podcast is about. Now, I think Chad,
is it your turn to to pull one. I'm gonna
fan these out in front of you while you're doing
that chat. If you guys do want to ask a
question or give us a prompt or you have to
do his head to Our social media is social media
as well. Thanks dad, um and just d m s

(02:31):
and hit us up with your questions and yeah, we'll
try to get as many as we can. Yeah. Prompt
us podcast on that is at Prompts podcast on Instagram
and Twitter. Just DMUs on there, Hey kid, Chad's ready
with the prompt. Baby, here we go. Prompt What do
men really look for in women? Oh? No, that is

(02:51):
not it. Oh my gosh, that's what it is. Due,
let's get in with thet What men? Yeah, I know
this is a good one. It would be good to
do one with the girls on it and see what
they anyway, we should keep. But that is what do
men really look for in woman? Depends which men you're
talking about, honestly, But I can only speak for myself

(03:13):
and you should and I myself, You guys can speak
for me. Oh my gosh, do you who wants to
who wants to take this one? Start us? Who wants
to start us off today? Why don't you start us off?
Gave me? Oh my gosh, what two men really look for?
And what do men really look for in women? Listen, guys, listen, Jake,

(03:40):
I I'm trying to like, guys, if one thing you
know about this podcast is we don't know what the
prompts are. We have no time to prepare, so it's
kind of just like on the fly. We're answering the
questions right away, so as I give myself some time
together my thoughts. Okay, I'll speak from experience with like

(04:04):
my wife. I was my pursuit with Jess, in pursuing
a relationship and into marriage and stuff like that was
very intentional. So I was looking for obviously she was
like beautifully stunning, and I was like, dude, this atten,
thank you very much God for pretty person in my life.

(04:24):
And um, so that like, obviously there's like the physical things.
I think men will always be attracted to certain women
just based off like being a dude and that you know,
that's nature, and um, those are things that obviously attract
you to you know, those certain people. But I think

(04:45):
beyond that, there's so much more that is like the
important stuff to really be looking for in a woman.
And so like for myself and Jess, I knew one
thing that I was looking for as far as like
a wife or someone that I wanted to, you know,
marry first and foremost, they needed to love Jesus and
have a relationship with God, you know. So that's one thing.

(05:08):
More things were like the way like we were asking
hard questions right away. Honestly, it was like four times sixty,
not those you're just staring at at a dinner three. No,
But I'm like this this kind of goes on to

(05:29):
what we talked about on the last podcast. Was like
we were asking we were talking about like how we'd
want to raise our kids, and the way we even
viewed relationships with each other, the way we viewed marriage,
you know, the way we viewed just just so many things,
and like those important things were stuff that I was

(05:52):
looking for, especially coming from a position where I had
been in a previous, previous relationship that did not go
well and I was actually cheated on. I knew I
had like a bunch of, like I guess, red flags
and things that I knew to look for in a
woman because of what I had already gone through. Yeah,

(06:15):
but I don't know if I'm like answering this question right,
because it says, what do men really look for. I mean,
I know what I mean. Yeah, dude, I think you're
hitting it right on the head if I you know,
I had some things that my wife likes to call
non negotiables. So shout out to my wife Tory. Whenever
she's meeting with one of her girlfriends about who is
like it was having some maybe some relationship issues or

(06:37):
some questions or different things like that, she makes them
right out there non negotiables, which obviously stand for things
that they're not willing to negotiate on. These are things
that are written, These are things I'm looking for that
it's not like it's it's not okay if they don't
have it. And first off, before people get upset, that's okay.
This is your relationship. You're allowed to say I'm not
interested in X, I'm not interested in why. That's totally okay.

(07:01):
The relationship is very important. And she makes these girls
sign this non negotiable paper that she makes them right about,
and then she makes him sign it and she loves it,
and then whenever they get into relationships she will go
through this with them. I mean, do my wife's hardcore, dude,
that is hardcore, and so gonna give us an example
of like what some of those things might be just
those are personal but between her and her friends. I

(07:21):
don't absolutely so mine. Actually I didn't write them down,
but I had them in the back of my head.
And these are in no particular order, but somewhere. Um,
if I got sick, would my wife leave me? That's
a hard question, and like a lot of people don't
think about that, but you hear it all the time.
So and so got sick with a chronic illness, which

(07:42):
means that they deal with it for a long time
and then someone doesn't want to be there throughout the
long haul and then they bail. Or if I lost
my job, would my wife step up to rally for
the family or would she resent me for losing my job.
That's actually crazy because I don't. That's just like HiT's
a quarter with me on a personal level, just a
lot of what I've talked about in the past. Yeah, absolutely,

(08:03):
with me having to stop working, just really step your family,
And she did it with with with gladness, not even
there wasn't even a question, not even about of an eye,
which is incredibly attractive for at least I can speak
for myself, you know what, I mean, but from from
the guys at the table, I'm sure a character trait
like that is, like you know what I mean, like

(08:26):
like if you're watching on YouTube right now, like you
know that whole lip bite. You know, you know the
models out here. It's a real thing. Man. Something else
wasn't non negotiable is that, Uh, she has to feel
confident in correcting me, but she's also got to be
humble enough to receive correction from me. Okay, she also

(08:48):
needs to love Jesus more than she loves me. That's
a non negotiable. And so I you know, I probably
had five more. I can't. I can't think I'm off
off top of my head right now. But those were
ones that were just like, those are things I'm really
looking for because the Bible says that um, beauty is
fleeting and charm is deceitful, but a woman who fears

(09:09):
the Lord is to be praised. I don't know the reference, sorry,
but it's true. You know who doesn't you know, who's
not attracted to say, a beautiful woman who's charming. You know,
that's so easy, you know, but guess what that can
be fleeting and deceitful and so but a woman who
fears the lords to be praised and so well, dude,
I mean, and I say this because like I know

(09:33):
a lot of people out here in l A. So
I like say this not lightly, but look at l A.
There's so many divorces and relationships are shallow, and it's
just like when I was I was in l A
for a while, you know, before meeting Jess, and I
was just like I was at this point where I'm like,
I'm never going to find someone because I was just
it was in this environment. That's so you had to

(09:56):
go all the way to Australia. I had to find
someone on the other side of the world. Let's but
you know, yeah, that that is a big, big thing.
Is the the initial lust that's there that is so easy,
that is especially to guys, is so appealing and so
it can so easily misguide you. And how important it

(10:16):
is to be aware of that and to know that
there's so many things to look for beyond like what
I mentioned before. It's like Jess was so beautiful, but
there was way more beyond that that I needed to really,
I guess, like decipher or like look through to see like, oh,
is this person really someone who I want to spend

(10:37):
the rest of my life with, you know, like, are
you guys gonna be able to tell the test of time?
You know. It's like that book by Rich Workers in JR.
It's called Sandcastle Kings, And there's so many people that
are building their kingdoms on sand, you know, and so
whenever there's a storm of any kind, it washes it away.
And so if you're building on things that are fleeting
or deceitful or just um just surface level. I mean,

(11:00):
this is not even a sound aggressive to people that
are interested, because it's by the way, my wife smoking hot.
That's okay, you know, smoking hot, check her out, you know,
but I really don't, you know, but only I can
check her out. And so it's okay for those things,
but it has to go deeper. The foundation has to
be more exactly Yeah, I mean I was, I know,

(11:22):
for me, um a big thing that I was looking for.
I mean, similar to you, Gabe, like just being messed
around in in previous relationships and stuff like that. And
for people that I'm like, yeah, I've living I'd bury
this person and I know those what I learned from
those relationships is just so invaluable you know about myself,
but about what I wanted in a person, in a woman,

(11:42):
and like I know, for me, a big one was
someone who just who was support Obviously we all want
people that are supportive but understanding of I guess what
my dreams and ambitions were, Um, actually yeah, because i
mean back in back in a Bridge, Vegas where I'm
from Brisbane. You know, like it's it's it's so funny

(12:03):
people people from people from Brisban say, so that's the problem,
but like it's a smaller it's a smaller town and
which can sometimes be better in terms of meeting people
because you don't have a little option. Um but seriousness.
That's why to l A she had to get the

(12:24):
head out of people. But you know, like a big
thing was like you know, in this it's a middle
class town and so I'm not out here being like yeah,
I'm I'm about to become nothing wrong being in the accountant,
but I'm not out here becoming an accountant and I'm
going to hustle that to become the manager of the firm.
Like I'm not doing that. So a big thing I
was looking forward with someone who was like wow, I

(12:44):
love that you love music in the way that you
do in the capacity you do. I love that you
want to be creative and I'm going to support you,
even though that's not necessarily a guaranteed great income every
single day. And it was it's not popular in the
environment that like you would find someone you have to
be a musician to find a girl, because that's the
sexy thing to do, right. I had to go to

(13:04):
Florida to find one. So you're probably right, yeah, you
know saying but like back in Brisbane, I was like no,
like you were dumb, silly whatever it was for trying
to push from music. And so that's obviously why I
feel very blessed that Chelsea is as supportive as she
is in that space, because I say to a have babe,
I want to start this business or whatever it is,
and she's like, all right, we'll show me how that's

(13:24):
going to work. I'm like okay, rather than be like, yeah, look,
I think that's kind of dangerous for our future. I don't,
which is fine, you know if some if people think
about that way. But I mean there's being smart about it,
obviously if you're not self aware enough. But the other
person is it's discouraging ambition is different, and that's definitely
what Chelsea does. She encourages the ambition. Well, dude, it

(13:44):
would be stupid, It would be It would be stupid
for anyone to say that you don't have a talent
in music and to discourage you from that, because you're
so talented in music and it's so clearly obvious. So
I'd be weird for someone to discourage you from that,
you know what I mean? Zachary stance following guys, thank you,
But I mean, and it's funny that you said. I
appreciate that you say that, bro, because in all the
other relationships I had, I felt like it was silly really,

(14:08):
you know. And I felt like, you know, like people
were out there again in their unity degrees and stuff,
and that's fine. And these girls that are girls, those
heaps of them. No, No, it wasn't eat. But the
people that I was spending all these all these smoking
hotbait and I'm kidding, um, but you know, all these
people that I was spending time with, it would get
to a point after a few months where it was like,
are you going to like focus on me or you're

(14:29):
going to focus on music? You know, and obviously there
was some deeper stuff there, a balance of work life,
so it was like an ultimatum. Yeah, usually I ended
in this awkward like, well, I don't think I'm going
to give up my dreams and ambitions for one person.
I want to find someone who I can I can
I'm happy to sacrifice. I'm happy to find ways to
sacrifice because they're also sacrificing for me, you know. And

(14:50):
it's it's so cool to hear that because I've always
heard that described as celebrating the calling that's on your life,
and whenever you have a calling on your life, you're
annoying it in that that means that it's going to happen.
And I think that's someone can either be your greatest asset,
your greatest liability, and your marriage typically will be that.
So they're either going to celebrate you and the things

(15:11):
that God has put on your heart, or they're going
to deter you from that plan. Could you imagine having
to choose between God's plan and what they and what
someone else wants? And that's like, yeah, that's crazy because
to think about like what you're saying before, Gabe, about
like looking beyond the last part of it or the
kind of honeymoon period like I'm just stoked that I'm
with a smoking hot babe. Like, once you're past that point,

(15:31):
those questions become like they come forward, you know, And
that's definitely where I found myself. It was like, oh
wait a second, like these people are going to have
a problem with me wanting to tour, Like that's a
genuine thing that tells you and I talked about I'm like, hey,
like I would love to be like in a situation
where music does so well that I have to be
away for six months. And the conversation then turns in,

(15:53):
so what are you hoping that you can do with
me on tour or you're gonna stay, Like that's a
big question, you know that I think no one has
to really ask anyone, But in my situation, that's the
ambition on my heart. It's a conversation worth having. Yeah, fully,
so I know for me, it was just finding someone
who like supported that ambition beyond just supporting it, but

(16:14):
also wanted to be involved in it. That was a
big thing, you know, Like I love the you guys
both work with your wives, and I think that's like
so such an incredible thing. Obviously. I mean, you guys
can talk about it more like what comes with that
and what that means. But I know for me, that
gets me so jacked to think about that. I get
to like create with shells, make like something which else

(16:35):
that we're proud of, but we also get to live
on that, you know. So that's that that was like
a big thing on my end, I guess. But I
have a weird question for you guys. That's such a
that's such a good answer. I'm like happy that you
answered that. That's like I was worried if that was
like to like business focused. Now it's you know, I
cover some emotional stuff and it's you know, you work.

(16:57):
What if between forty and six of week, you know
a lot of your life and our lives are work.
It's an important topic to talk about, you know what
I mean? Yeah, what We're gonna have a weird question
for you guys, if this is okay? Have you guys
ever heard the quote that you end up marrying your
mom or you end up marrying your dad. Yes, we should.
We've been talking about that. We were talking about this week. Dude, Okay,

(17:19):
I would love to hear that you love to hear,
how what are your thoughts on that and how how
does that relate to your your mom and Chelsea? And
then of course you're okay mom to first I we
were talking about this the other day, and the funny
thing I found is that, I mean, I love my
mom to bits. I really really do love her, um,

(17:42):
but Chelsea is not really like her in the sense
of I'm more like my mom than Chelsea is like
my mom. And I think that actually just comes more
from a learning and growing place. It would be really
funny if, like two years time, we're doing the podcast,
the question comes up, my man, Chelse is just like
my mom, you know. And what you did? You did
say this week that she was like your step mom. Well, yeah,

(18:03):
that's what I was gonna say, you know, like I
um shout out Shrine with a legend, but you know, like, um,
I found um, but she I found that. Chelsea's what
I loved about Sharine and what I love about her personality.
Chelsea actually was a lot of those things. And now
I'm in this situation where I guess I'm not something
I think about a lot because it doesn't really matter,

(18:24):
but it's very interesting. Yeah, and I find myself like, Oh,
that's something my mom would do, and then oh, that's
something Sharne would do. And it's just really interesting that
Chelsea is kind of almost my favorite parts of both
my parents. Yeah, but that's pretty cool. That's really interesting
too as far as tying it back to the question,
it's like what do men really look for in women
and like evaluating it on that kind of level because like,
for me, I'm the opposite of Zach where I see

(18:47):
so many qualities that Jess has that I see so
many qualities in Jeff that my mom has, you know
what I mean, Like they're just so we talked about
angiograms like type two helper wanting to help, just like
supportive and it's just kind of weird, you know, but
then also the opposite of that. Jess has also said

(19:10):
that I'm similar to her dad and on like on
like Chet dis pounded me, Fis bumped me. There we
go you um and Uh, it's just I don't know,
It's not that it's like good or bad or weird
or anything, but it's just like it is what it

(19:30):
like on I think because Jess's dad is really creative
and Um is into like coming up with ideas, and
he's a teacher, so he comes up with ideas and
builds them out within the school and like, you know,
just creative on every level. And that's how like me
like wanting to do all this work and entertainment and
stuff like that into you know, the digital space and everything,

(19:53):
and that's such. It's interesting. It's just it's just interesting. Yeah,
it's definitely interesting. It can be weird to talk about two,
but that's the whole you I think that's the big
question of nature versus nurture. You know, there are biological
things inside of us as men that desire certain things.
Like this is gonna sound super weird, sorry for your ears,
but wide hips men tend to like that because it

(20:14):
shows birth giving qualities. It's something that's in our DNA
that desires that. It's an actual thing. And so I'm
not can you it's and that's not my scien. That's yes,
science science, you know, and so but it's the whole
nature of nurture. But if you're also Zacks out here,
he's like what what? But then there's the nurture side

(20:36):
of things, which is if you were raised a certain way,
you know, your whole life around a woman, your mom,
and there's certain things that you look for and it's
it's I agree. I mean, I'm I'm definitely like you
in that sense. Gave that Tori reminds me of my
mom so much. She's just such a hard worker for
her family and she's so intentional and kind and and
it's just just so many things. I'm just like, dang,

(20:58):
Like it's absolutely true for me. And I'm not like
ashamed of it all because my mom's like my mom's dope,
what is the best, And so I'm not mad about
it at all. And and I can see this is
another quality that men are, specifically me, I look for,
and and a woman is you know, do they want
children and what type of mom will they be? Because

(21:19):
I absolutely want children, and I mean, Toy is gonna
be amazing, you know, And so I think that, you know,
I see the way my mom was with my brother
and me, and I see that. I'm just like, dang,
like I hope that we can raise our chows like that.
And I met my wife and I'm just like wow,
like she's probably gonna be a better parent than me.
And I want to be an amazing dad. You know

(21:39):
what I mean, like legit, like I I still I'm
study you guys always make fun of me, like Chad
the dad, you know, I can't wait for that, and she's, yeah,
she's gonna hold it down. And so it is a
real conversation of nature versus nurture. But also I think
explaining on that point something that justin I kind of uh,
I don't know. I guess that's just how I view
things um in our relationships, since that's the question, what

(22:00):
do mentorally form woman? UM? When I look at our relationship,
I see like, uh, how would you say, like a
team side by side thing of us when it comes
to those things like parenting and stuff. How are we
going to work together? And is their willingness on her
part to work together two become better parents together, and

(22:25):
become a better couple together, and become better friends together
and because and all those things, like is there even
that willingness to grow together. That's a huge one for
me because I'm personally I'm like a huge fan of
I guess like self improvement and always and that's like
part of the reason why we're doing the podcast is
because we're all really big on like improving improving ourselves
and seeing areas of our life that we can work

(22:46):
on and talking about those things and encouraging each other
and building those things, and how can we do better,
um in our relationships with you know, our wives or
significant others, and what can we do better on a
business level, you know, what can we do better on
a relationship level with our friendships and stuff like that.
So I think it's cool having someone else who's just

(23:07):
as motivated to do those things, and together we can
move forward step by step in um, in growing and
in learning and in bettering ourselves as future parents, as
current parents of a wonderful dog, and uh, you know,

(23:28):
as as husband and wife and just in all those aspects,
and we're just constantly pushing each other to do better
and to grow. I think one thing that I would
love to hear you guys answer is how have you
noticed those kind of things that men look for and women?
How have you noticed those show themselves as character traits?
And your fiance Zac and then in your wife Gabe,

(23:49):
because like, just for example, with Tori, it's not like,
you know, it's not like there's an Intagram test where
he's like, oh wow, she has good character you know
what I mean. Like a lot of things can be
It can be discussed through conversation, like you know, do
you want children? If you know, how do you feel
about that? Or you know, but actions speak so loud
in this type of topic. Like I remember a quick

(24:09):
story where Tory was living in Florida. We were dating
long this since I'm I was out here in l A.
And my mom is starting a furniture business where she
redes furniture like she finds she repurposes it and and uh,
and she gets really nervous to drive those big U
haul trucks. And Tori only lived about forty five minutes
away um from my mom, and so she drove over

(24:31):
to Lakeland and and she and she like sent a
picture of her my mom and the U Hall and
she was help my mom drive the U haul. And
then later on she sent a picture of her my
dad cooking dinner. She was just having dinner with my
family and I wasn't even there. And it showed number
one that she valued family. Number two that she valued
my family, and and it showed like it's just my

(24:52):
dad and I always say that we get along over
the three fs, which is football fishing and food. Okay,
and we really bond over this. That's the most American
thing I've ever heard. And and and uh, Tori was
willing to see something that's so important to my dad,
which is cooking and food. He loves it, and she
spent time with it. Tory hates to cook, she hates it,

(25:12):
she does not like but she was willing to do
it with my dad. Doesn't just trying to win your heart.
I was able to see that. And so how have
you guys, how how have you actually seen things that
Chelsea Chess has done and look and received it as like,
oh wow, that's a that's a really good character trait
that I'm looking for. I have one in particular. Um,
my family is very loud, very crazy. What what I

(25:36):
don't know what you're talking about, bro Um. My family
is very loud, very crazy. And we whenever, like Jesse
and I are back in town, there's always like some
usually there's some like family hangout where it's like the
ons and uncles come over and stuff. And me in particular,
as far as like cousins are concerned, there's no one.
At the age of me and my older brother were

(25:58):
like right next to each other. I'm a year younger
than him, and then all of our other cousins are
like six years younger than me, or we have two
other cousins who are like six I think six years
older than my older brother. So we're like in this
gap where we never really had uh like people to
hang out. So we have a lot of younger cousins, right,

(26:20):
And then there's when we have I have one younger
cousin who is just much younger, and she was adopted
into the family, and she loves the attention of like
Jess and my sister Sophie, and she just loves to
be around the girls. And Jess would spend the entire

(26:40):
family hang out with her because she knew that Belin
wanted that attention and wanted to hang out with Jess.
And I was like, wow, Jess is really going Jess
is really willing to spend time with the kids, and
is going to be willing to spend time with our
kids and really like nurture them and bring And it
was just so cool seeing the way she interacted with

(27:02):
her as well. I feel like I explained that kind
of bad, but that was just like, it's so attractive
to see that yeah, just like something. And I'm outside
like with my brother and like my little brother just
like playing football and stuff or whatever, just like messing around.
And then I walked back inside and it's just like
taking care of of kids. So cool. Yeah, that's cute.

(27:24):
You're cute, Jack, You're cute. It sounds so weird to
the microphone because like so intimate. It sounds like we
literally sitting on top of each other. I mean, how
would they know we're not unless they're watching it. Wow,
I'm trying to think. I mean that I have good
ones like tells in that sense for me with family stuff. Um,

(27:45):
she's my family, So dude, your family and my family
in the same room would be like more like too
much for us. Just my family gets a lot for
me too. Sometimes I just started hanging out and she's
like look at me, and I'm like, yeah, it's time. Yeah,
And it's my family. I love being allowed with them.
And then once I'm done, I'm done. Like and so
Chelsea really puts up with not puts up with it,

(28:06):
but you know, like she really puts in the hard
yards to stay engaged and to try and be loud
for someone that is quite reserved, which is what I
love about her. Um, but something that she was doing
I mean to link to what I was talking about
at the start, she would um, I'm like, you know,
I've talked about as a previous episode where I've been like, oh,

(28:27):
like she encouraged me about my music. But she would
start telling me like, oh, I told this person about
your music today, and I told them about how you
made it, and I broke it down for them and
they're really excited. And and it was just like little
things like that that made me realize that she was
putting in the energy too for words affirmation, um, and
putting in the energy to like, hey, I told someone

(28:47):
that you were sick. Sounds so silly, but I told
someone you were sick, they also think you're sick. I'm
telling you because I know that you appreciate hearing this,
you know. And And that was I guess a big thing.
Um suggest you know you know that she support What
do I think she's not just like showing publicly supportive Yeah,
you know, like she's not just like oh yeah that
is cool, and then that's it, I think And I
as much as I try to be for her, and

(29:08):
I think that was that was a big thing, um
off the gate, you know. And it's even a bigger
step for her because she is more reserved. So not
only show you love with those words of aff that
you like so much, but it's also to step out
of a shell and do it in a public place
where she typically maybe wouldn't. He's even a bigger step totally.
It shows intentionality exactly that and that's the Yeah, that's what.

(29:31):
That's definitely the better way to say, you know. And
even things like coming to church with me and you know,
like we did um we did the Christmas production together
and I was taking photos for her and she was
like slide of stage helping out. And I know that
was really really out of her comfort zone, you know,
like and I know after the first night or so,
she was emotional about it because she hadn't been put
in that position with that responsibility and that was stressing
her out. She didn't want to let anyone down. But

(29:53):
weirdly that was encouraging for me that she put herself
in a position to be held responsible and you know,
to actually get involved. Yeah, you know, and and not
that she hasn't done that before and she's done you know,
She's taken risks before and things like that, but to
do it alongside me, that was like, you know, to
be like, oh, I want to be here with you
and also help if I can, you know. That was Yeah.

(30:15):
I know it sounds silly because I think we're all
just naturally those people, but if it, Chelsea took a
lot of courage to do that, and so that was
a big one for me. It was just seeing her
faith that it's gonna be all right, even though I'm
like overwhelmed, you know, like that this will be okay.
But yeah, yeah, I don't know, it's cool. I had
to something I had to do with this prompt you know,

(30:36):
what do you men really look for in women? I
had to spend just as much time, you know, kind
of thinking of those non negotiables for me as I
did having to think about what is my future wife
looking for and working on that self. For me, I
had that is even more time on that. That's just
that what I was saying in the previous podcast, say
that in this wasn't in this podcast. The way you

(30:56):
act as what you're tracked Dan, this podcast have become
one that was a previous one. I'm pretty sure that
was the previous time. The way you act as what
you're attracting, that's so cool that you're thinking that, being like,
what do I want to see in my future wife?
I need to start acting like that because the qualities
that I want in another person and that standard that

(31:17):
I have for them is the standard I should have
for myself. Exactly exactly, Dude. I love that, and you
know to to not repeat that, but to take it
even a step further. Taking a step further, baby. That's
something that has helped make marriage easier for Tory and
I in the in this first year, is that we
you know, we've heard some stories from some of our
friends who have confided us and Mike Man, this is

(31:38):
a hard time or which it is. Marriage is actually
it can be a really hard thing. And and I
think it's been easier for Tory and I in certain
circumstances because we we were we were acting like a
married I gotta be careful the way I say this.
We were acting like like I was acting like a husband,
for I was married, but not a husband to her.
I was just acting like a husband in and so

(32:00):
we weren't like playing marriage before we were married. But
I wasn't doing things. You were practicing practicing. I was
practicing being a husband before I was a husband, and
so that the transition into being a husband wasn't a shock.
You know, you're practicing not looking at other women, keeping
your mind like as pure thought like, keeping as many

(32:22):
pure thoughts in your mind as possible thoughts, and even
to saving money, to to needing to be prepared to um, sorry,
I just needing to check in on certain things and
not just letting it be my way or the highway.
You know, there's so many different things that I started
adopting into my into my walk that that was really

(32:42):
good for me and really good for our marriage, and
towards did the same thing. So it went from Okay,
what is my future wife looking to looking forward to Wow,
that actually really benefited us now in this first year
because we went through the Ringer Man. We had a
lot of stuff happened in this first year of marriage,
from dealing with a stalker that it sounds it's it's

(33:03):
a word that's lost value nowadays because everyone's oh, I'm
stalking you or whatever. Don't add me, bro, you know
all that stuff. It's like we legit had a stalker
to the point where we hired private investigator and the
police and that person was arrested and so we I
had my identity Act this year, we got married this year,
and we had a drunk driver told it our vehicle.

(33:25):
Now we have equally been blessed in a lot of
those areas, which is cool that we'll talk about on
other episodes. But we went through a lot in our
first year of marriage and it really tested us. And
without us being really specific with what we look for
in a spouse and also seen that live out in
our first year marriage, man, we it would have been brutal.

(33:45):
It would have been absolute brutal. And I think that's
a great launch pad for where I want to take
this question again. And we've done this with some previous prompts.
It's kind of just twisted a little bit. The prompt
is what do men really look for in women? I
think we could insert quickly just a few like what
men should look for in women? You know what I mean?

(34:06):
And um for for me, something I say a lot
to people is, ah, if if anyone's asking for advice,
like on marriage or whatever in a relationship, I just say,
keep your expectations. So low for the other person. There's
obviously like the non negotiables like this, but then you
just have people and naturally just have really high expectations

(34:28):
for other people, and that can be so dangerous because
the only person who doesn't disappoint is God. Yeah, you know,
He's the only person who's not going to disappoint you.
So if you have these crazy expectations for how the
other person, how how you just expect the other person
to act or expect them to treat you in certain ways,
they're gonna disappoint you. They're either going to disappoint you

(34:48):
or if they do meet the expectation, you're only satisfied.
You're not great, yes, exactly. So it's if you have
low expectations like I don't expect my wife to clean
the dishes, I don't expect my wife to feed the dog,
just those kind of things like I don't expect my
wife to make the bed, and that kind of gives
you more responsibility of like, Okay, I'm gonna do those things,
which essentially, when you do do those things, it makes

(35:11):
your wife happy that you did that. But then also
when she does do those things, it encourages you because
then you're of the mindset of like, oh my gosh,
my wife is doing these things and I totally wasn't
thinking she was going to do them. Where there's people
I know, there's people in relationships that they're fighting because
the other person expected the other person to take the
trash up, dude, and both of them expected that, and

(35:33):
they both didn't do it because they expected the other
person to do and now they're fighting and it gets worse.
It gets worse and worse and worse. But you did
so funny. Even this morning, I woke up and I
remember Tori is going to go grocery shopping today for
for friends giving that we're having, and I remember I'm like, Wow,
she's gonna go take on something that I know she
doesn't really want to do, but I don't want to
do either, and she's not gonna do and so um,

(35:55):
I woke up this morning and I was like, Wow,
she's gonna take one for the team. So I'm just
gonna clean the entire kitchen, living room and everything like
that this morning. And it's just like whenever you have
that low expectation but then you're super thankful that someone
does something for you, it makes you want to bless them,
which makes them want to bless you, which it just
it just compounds. But it equally has a negative compound

(36:15):
effect too. If you have a high expectation and a
person doesn't meet that. Yeah, like you're saying, Gabe, like
no one's going to meet that, even though we're talking
about things like you know, I'd love help with the
dishes or whatever it is. You know, like, no one
is literally going to meet that. The gap that we
feel and I think a lot of people feel like
we can. This is a whole another podcast. But the
gap that we feel, phil feel, feel, feel naturally and

(36:40):
um and that we are born with is the gap
that Jesus feels. Yes, fis that Australian the accent, it's
the same word feel and feel Phil sands shout out
to my dad anyway, But you know that that that
is that you know that gap. Chelsea doesn't feel that

(37:01):
for me. That's not her job, you know, like she
she extends the happiness that I already have as a
result of God's grace, you know, and that that's huge.
You should talk on that a little bit more. I mean,
so my okay, yep, I can I mean so I
guess like that was a big reason why Chelsea and

(37:22):
I were friends for two years. You know, I didn't
want her to ever be replacing how I wish I
felt if I was working on music, or how I
wish I felt if I had a closer connection with God,
or you know, because I think Jesus, you can't feel
that space with career, you can't feel that space with family,
you can't feel that space with someone, and especially you know,
it's not someone else's responsibility, you know, like it's not

(37:43):
Chelsea's responsibility that I feel complete as a human. That
is my responsibility to allow God to feel that space.
And that's that's why I'm a huge advocate for having
a season of singleness before you jump into a relation,
like a relationship leading to marriage, so you can like
understand God's love and like that void be filled, so

(38:03):
you're not going into relationship expecting the other person to
fill that totally. And so and up until this point,
I'd always dated something. I don't know why. I just
naturally really enjoyed I say dating, you know, companionship, Yeah,
I just enjoyed. I didn't. Yeah, it was more just
like I had you know, if it was a girl.
I was just great friends with her, you know what

(38:23):
I mean, like whether we made out or not, you know,
like it's just it's just, you know, we were like,
oh my gosh, like we would. I would just always
have friends that were naturally, like typically girls, because I
appreciated like I was more of a feelings kind of
keep growing up than I was maybe a sports kid
or something like that. And so I typically only found

(38:43):
that kind of friendship in other people that were girls,
you know, like um, and so I naturally just had that.
And then it wasn't until you know, like I met Chelsea,
and then there was like two years of like, man,
I just don't want to I don't want to be
like yep, let's do it because it's just the next thing.
And I could see the pattern reoccurring. And it's crazy
because in those two years, with the two years that
I started getting back into church more, I started trusting

(39:04):
God with what my purpose was more, I started working
on things that I actually wanted to work on. I
started focusing more, you know, And now that like Chelsea
and I are engaged, I definitely don't feel like I'm
going to suddenly not be as focused because I've actually
been patient and let that time do its thing, you know. So,
um yeah, and then that feels incredible. And I say,
the feeling I've definitely filled that void with someone before,

(39:28):
I think we all have. I think that's super normal,
whether it be a parent or you know, like I've
done that with my dad, be like, Dad, you have
to feel that spot for me, But that's not my
dad's responsibility, you know. And that's a whole nother podcast
about parenting. But I think, um, I think we've all
been there before. But the feeling of knowing that Chelsea
just adds so much extra value to my life that

(39:49):
never thought I would have. It's so much more fulfilling,
which is obviously not the point still, but you know,
that's so much more fulfilling than trying to make sure
that she's like making me feel good all the time,
you know, like just doesn't It's crazy that you can
enjoy Chelsea more when you have less of an expectation
to enjoy her. That's so I know that sounds weird

(40:10):
for that for the listen it sounds like counterintuitive. Yeah
it does, but it is what it is, you know,
And it's like fact fact machine, fact, that's for intin
it out. But I think it's similar to the thing
where if you grow up, say, is a really dumb example,
But I think it's just I've been in l A
for a few weeks. It's really easy to like use
as an example. But if you grow up and your

(40:31):
parents drive around the Lamborghini, you grow up being like, oh,
I just get a Lamborghini. There's nothing special about that,
you know, And if you compared to me, where I
didn't grow up with the Lamborghini and then suddenly I
have this Lamborghini, Suddenly I'm just gonna suddenly have a Lamborghini.
But I think you actually made it sound like you
currently have can't only have a Lamborghini. He doesn't have

(40:52):
no Lamborghini. You're saying, oh, and now I have a Lamborghini, Chelsea.
Is that what you're saying? Well, no, that that's what
I was No, But that's what I That's what I'm
saying in the sense that I just want to clarify,
no one has a Lamborghini. None of we're not driving
around Lambers. But I feel like I've lost my metaphor
in a sense. But I think the point is I

(41:13):
definitely I mean, I think the point is is that
I don't. I don't have the expectation to have a Lamborghini,
you get what I'm saying. So because I don't have
that expectation, I'm not relying on it to do things
for me that I don't have already. So that's what
Chelsea is, I don't have like you said I have.
I don't have an expectation for Chells. I just I mean,
I trust God, and I know that we're going to

(41:35):
be great as a result of God in the relationship.
But I'm not like Chells, you need to be the
reason that I've become successful. But there are people that
do that in their relationships, where they rely on that
person to fully change their life, and I just can't.
I can't do that, you know. And so yeah, anyway,
Lamborghini reference was not all the sense, but it was actually,

(41:56):
like I was just about to say, dude, that was
actually a really good way of putting it, of being like,
this is what I'm used to or what I expect
from someone, so therefore I should have it and have
this entitlement mentality about it, rather than being like I

(42:16):
have no expectation for it. And then if it does
come anyway, what a blessing that. Yeah, that's exactly right,
And I think that's what I'm trying to explain what
you're saying, Chad. It sounds kind of intuitive, but because
I don't, I don't necessarily go I deserve someone like Chelse,
you know, in a sense, I do, because I obviously
believe that God has that for me. Yeah. Yeah, but

(42:36):
I'm not sitting around before of Chelsea and I were together,
that wasn't like She's going to be this and this
and this, and as a result, I enjoy everything that
she is so much more, you know, which is exactly
what you're saying. But I think in my sense, I
guess real, I don't know. That was just a period
of my life where I'm like, this makes so much
sense now that we're talking about it. But that's just
my opinion. Split it in there, bay Be. I like

(43:00):
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to be honest. I think that's why we did a podcast.
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