October 25, 2021 • 41 mins
In this weeks episode of Prompt Us, the lads continue last weeks conversation about where they're really at. Gabe is still hyped on At Your Best, Chad opens up about his personal life and Zac shares his anxieties as a creative! Hopefully, the honesty is encouraging and enjoy this week's close and personal episode of Prompt Us.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Prompt Us is a production of I Heart Radio. What's Up, guys,
Welcome back to the prompt Us podcast. This is Gabriel.
I am one of your hosts. I'm here joined with
your other hosts, Chad and Zach Howdy had a partner.
And what I'm just just like saying, how it a
(00:20):
you know, I'm just saying, what the deal? That's good? Anyway,
we last podcast last week, we were talking. We were
just like catching up and having a big The podcast
was basically like talking about our problems, working through them
together and doing it in public fashion on the podcast.
(00:40):
And I talked the entire time about all my problems.
So we had to split this into two and now
it's your guys turn. So I'll stop talking and go
you want Do you want me to start? Because I
think you'll have some fire had to follow up. So alright, So,
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so what's our context? How how we are? Where we're at?
Is that? Is that where we're at right now? How
are you doing? You just speak from the heart? What
is occupying most of your He just rips one because
he thought he thought you said speak from the fart,
speak from the fart. Oh sick, No, Just what is
what is occupying most of your mental and emotional capacity
(01:24):
right now? Right now, dude, it's like trying to be
self confident, which has sounds so umbrella, but you know, confidential, equity,
confidence past. Oh it's slaps, it's last. But yeah, I
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feel like right now I'm really just trying to work out,
like I don't know, man, who I am in in
what I create and why I create something, really trying
to find the why about it, because like I know
why I'm married, I know why I go to church,
I know why i'm a I know a lot of
things about my identity. But I'm still in this space
where it's like, so, why am I creative other than
(02:06):
I have a skill set? Um? If that does that
make sense? It's like, well, growing up making stuff, and
so I've refined it. What about do you want enough?
But what about Like yeah, I was going to ask,
what about So you have the skill set, but is
it also like a desire to create as well? Do
you have that? Like? Okay, so it's almost so it's
(02:28):
not just the skills, it's almost matched with a desire
to do it. Yeah, totally, You're so right, and and
that's so true. But then it's like I wonder there's
a part of me that's like is there another part
to that? Or do I just need to hone in
on that? So yeah, I'm just really trying to push
into like my skill sets. Hey, like trying to keep
learning right now and um, oh day let's get real.
(02:49):
I guess hey, um, just the self doubt pop my boys?
Can I speak? I know I've been speaking way too much,
but you're good, dude. Can I just speak into that
because you were about to go like heavy m yeah,
and I'm ready for it. But I just wanted to
speak into the last thing that you just said for
a second, because we're going through like a very similar
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stage of like developing our content and stuff. For so long,
I didn't create content because I'm like, it needs to
have meaning to it, and it did. But what I realized,
and I think it was like through COVID happening and
every the world just kind of going crazy for so long,
what I gravitated towards as far as the content that
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I was consuming was something that was just lighthearted and funny,
that I could escape and just enjoy something that was
and for me, that like meant so much to me
that there was content out there that wasn't focused on
all the crap that's already happening in the world, because
basically everyone was just like I could only talk about
the crap, and then there was like it seemed like
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there was few avenues online that was like, oh no, no,
but here's something that's actually lighthearted and in fun and
can like lift up my spirit and just make me laugh,
like I just wanted to laugh. And it didn't need
to be anything like super overly like emotionally meaningful. It's
just like it literally the meaning was that it made
me laugh and just made my day better. And I
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was like, that is what I used to do, and
that is why people like followed me in the first place. Yeah,
and I should start doing And that's why I started
making the content again that I did, because I was like,
there's meaning and that there's meaning and just like goofing
off for ten to fifteen twenty minutes on a video
and just having fun with people, you know what I mean.
(04:38):
But I feel that because sometimes a lot of people,
well it is going to sound like a humble brag.
I don't mean it that way at all, but people
are like, oh wow, It's so cool how how many
comments you reply to because I'll spend hours replying to
comments on YouTube. But people don't understand. I don't do
it for them. I do it for me because I
go read the comments selfish and even if you self listen,
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how dare you? Even if the video tanks? But I
see that one person that said I needed this today,
then it was worth it, right, And it helps me,
um get on the same level as people that are watching,
versus feeling regret and lack of self confidence for all
the people who aren't. And so that really impacts me
(05:22):
because I'll see stuff and I'm just like, oh wow,
this is why I do what I do. Right. It's
not for all of this, right, it's it's for that.
And that's why I spend so much time in there
is because otherwise I get obsessed with all of that. Yeah,
So Zack, totally go deep. Okay, I didn't come like
that deep all right, Zack, Now it's your time to
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go deep. Um yeah, I mean it's actually I'm glad
you guys said all that stuff because it's really timely
reminder and like, oh yeah, okay cool. So I mean
I think a big part of what I'm going through
right now is just the self doubt part of like, one,
why am I here? Like how did I get to
this point? Two? What are the things? When you take
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an opportunity, you're also saying no to a lot of
other opportunities, right every other opportunity have I said? You know,
have I said no to the right opportunities? Have I
said yes to the right opportunities? And I think I'm
getting really caught up in the decisions that I made
rather than getting excited about the decisions I could make.
And I think that's like my current struggle battle in
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my head. Um is that because it's like, Okay, if
I'm going to spend my time, the older I get,
I'm realized, if I'm going to spend my energy in
the time on something, it's going to hold value. And
I'm starting to realize that just doesn't It just doesn't
have to hold value or it holds value and I
just don't realize, which is what you're saying, Gabe, Like, Hey,
if I'm making this song with a mate, it's like that,
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actually it's the time together that's valuable, not my skill
set as a producer. And the snare drum slaps and like,
because that's I guess it's so easy as a creative right,
You're just like you get so caught up in the
details rather than the enjoyment of the creation, like creating
and um, something that my mate said to me, or
I was talking with the mate Nathan. We're talking about
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how f the world is my matinee. Yeah, I've been
shotting to my matenee my mate no um, and we
were just talking about like how whack the world is.
Like We're just like it's there's just so much, you know,
and there always has been, I guess in some capacity
we live in a fallen world and stuff like that.
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But I just said to him and I was I
didn't feel like I was saying I just felt like,
oh wow, that was important. I need to hear that.
But I just said, like, man, that's why I love creating,
because creating isn't just dwelling, and what the world is
creating is adding value and joy and excitement to the world.
And so I'm like, the last two days has been
just like how do I focus on that? Just focus
on that. It's actually not about what I'm creating, It's
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not about the format it's not about whether it's video
or music or art or communication. I would say talking
is creativity. It's about like the intention behind it and
if it's exactly what you're talking about gave in the
last podcast, like really having to remind myself like I'm
doing this because like there is like there is hope
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out there, and there is there is just so much
better um, there is just so much joy out there.
But I think the world is focused so hyper focused
on this kind of negative space right now. And I'm like,
all right, exactly what you said, Like if I could
add something positive um to the world, I guess, but
then there's just so much weight that comes with that,
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and so it's hard. By it's hard. It's so easy
to be like, yeah, I'm just gonna make content that's
super positive and like chill, but it's like now there's weight.
Well I hope people like it. Yeah, I mean there
is There's always going to be There's always gonna be
that pressure, right, you know, because if you're doing anything creative,
you're kind of performing in a way. You know, Like
when I turned on the camera and I'm reacting to something,
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I'm like, okay, am I going to am I am
I funny enough today? Did I say enough jokes that
landed today? You know, like that sort of stuff? And
I don't know. I'm just like I try and like
put that aside since I know I can just fix
it in the edit. Go okay, but you joked about that.
(09:27):
You joke about that, But it is the most true.
I know. I know it's like, oh, that wasn't funny,
but I can just like add like a little sound
effect and like a zoom in and a little warp
or something and it's funny. No, But um, yeah, man,
I mean I think, and I'm gonna say this, I
think it's something that I didn't touch on and the
last one. But I feel like it's really approached not
(09:47):
to talk about myself and I talk about myself because
I feel like I really see you. Um. When I
was going through it was probably like last like starting
maybe two or three weeks ago, and like a few
weeks before that, come back to do YouTube and I'm
trying to do this thing, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
(10:08):
I feel so uncapable of making this work, and I
feel so washed up and just not confident with with
for me in particular, it was it was like, I've
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done stuff with the Justin Gabriel channel for so long
and now I'm like, I'm doing something Gabriel Conti. That's
like the Gabriel Conti brand, not bringing Jess into it,
just strictly what can I What can I, as Gabriel
Conte make as a creator, And it's been really difficult,
Like you go and see the view like fully can
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go and see the views on my channel before I
made I started making the videos I'm making now, like
with the series and the stuff that I did to
now where I'm like, I'm gonna be I'm gonna make
consistent content and do you know whatever? Um And it's
just and there's lots of reasons for it, and we
talked about all the time. There's like the algorithm and
change of format and all these things that play factors
into like how you do push the stuff out, but
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not knowing how to fix it has made me like
I am an incapable creator mm hmm, And am I
wasting my time doing this? Dude? That's exactly what it
feels like. So I don't know if there was any
(11:37):
like positive spin on that, but that was I think
I was more like for sympathies sympathy's sake, then I
I feel really lucky to get emotional about this now,
and then I can throw at each hat and then
you can just make us all cry. But I'm already
crying pretty much. I'm feeling. OK. I just want to
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acknowledge the fact that, like it is wild that I
go through my own season of like I'm going to
pivot out of music into YouTube and I'm gonna, you know,
try and create this way. And it's always been on
my heart since I was a kid, and all this
blah blah stuff, and then it's like you and I
can talk about almost similar things where it's like we
just don't feel like we've worked it out yet or
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whatever it may be. And I just think that's wild
as well, like who God puts in your life to
be able to talk about that stuff and saying with
Chad as well, like the stuff Chat and I talk
about with like boundaries and like learning what those guys
do to set their boundaries, what I need to do
set boundaries, and we're it's fully different contexts, like if
you put us in a room or a podcast and
like really just like breakdown where we're all at our
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age is everything. It's such a different context, but it's
the human condition, right, Like there's just so much that
is similar. And so anyway, you're my brows. I love
you guys. I just wanted to acknowledge that because I
just think it's incredible that we can even have. These
are like the things that I like struggle to sleep
with because I'm just like, am I just not doing it?
Is this not it? Like I don't know that self
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doubt really takes over. But knowing that, like I can
kind of engage with you guys and really deep died,
that's super awesome. So with that being said, chat bring
it home. It's a long way home. Well I'm gonna well, dude,
I think I think I'll cut you off real quick
to just kind of bring it. Cut you off, Chad,
you haven't even started, but I'm still cutting um, just
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like I guess to bring some positive solace. Is that
the right word solace? Solace to the to like what
we're saying. For me in particular, when I was like
dealing with that, and that was probably like a few
weeks of like my internal monologue was you are washed up,
you are an incapable creator and you need to cash
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out on social media now because it's not gonna last
a long time. Like that's literally what was going in
my head for weeks. Like it was a fluke. People
like your relationship with Jess, but you're you're actually you
as a creative person is not going to work. That
was my mom like literally, and I would talk to
Jess about it and I'm like, I don't know what
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I'm like, what am I doing? What am I actually doing?
You know? Um? And then it got to the point
where and I talked about it about the affirmations or
the maximum or whatever you want to the title you
want to put on it, but I was like, Okay,
what is this for? What is the what am I
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doing this for? Like what's the why in this? And
just kind of like realizing, Yeah, i have these goals
to like grow on social media and do all these
things and like accomplish these things. But I'm not going
to be upset throughout the process until I get there.
I want to have joy in the process the whole way,
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you know, so really knowing like I'm just going to
build today for Jesus with Jesus with joy like that
is that is what I'm going to do today When
I put my hands to the plow right answer the
plans when you put your hands to the paddles on
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the F one, don't even get me literally, I try
and end my work day like before six, just so
I can spend an hour on the sim it happens
like I realistically I'm probably on there like two or
three times a week, but it's flipping. I'm not like
every night for like three hours. Just like eyes bleeding
looking at the screen, no judgment. That sounds dope, it's
(15:36):
so good. Well, they thank you for saying that, very like,
I think such a good reminded man like and it's
not something that I think about every moment of the day.
I think it's just one of those things that when
you get into it, you get into it. And that's
a bit of the trap, not just not just like
the influence of YouTube content. Trap, like just as a person.
The trap is over analyzing and just diving into d
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like it's so good to do, but if you're not
doing it with a heart position positively, you're really just
gonna beat yourself up the whole way through. You know.
It's like it's just a good reminded man that like
getting Yeah, every day it's like, hey, here's my new opportunity.
It's like you actually have an opportunity every day to
like build kingdom, build joy in people, like encourage people. Um,
it's a good reminded bros. Thank you mane. Yeah, yeah,
(16:23):
I feel that too. I am as you guys were
sharing all that. I mean, first off, I haven't really
updated you guys and where I'm at and I'm in
the same place. Um, do you ever just feel like
you're head butting a wall, like just constantly and you
just can't break through, and you're just like and everything
just feels so heavy. Like I just like, as you
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guys were sharing, I just couldn't help but think about
like how God has given us everything but one thing.
He hasn't given us his glory. And He's given us
the ability to create. He's given this ability to procreate,
He's given this ability to build and to be generous
and to help and all these things, but it's always
for his glory, not our own, because glory will make
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us sick. If you remember Josh's sermon in l A,
and I just feel like you know us in the
pursuit of glory. If if we're doing all these things
for our own glory and we're not receiving it, we're
gonna get down on ourselves or worse. Or if we
are receiving glory, we're gonna become prideful or worse. And
I just feel like getting back down to the boiled, like,
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boil everything down. What is this for? Just what you
guys were saying, is it is it? Is it for
his kingdom or your kingdom? Then I think that that
really helps, because I think the thing that I've really
been struggling with the most right now is just that
I just feel like I try so hard and I
want to finish that song almost got some so hard. No,
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I'm like laughing through like tears right now, but I
just feel like I just feel like I'm trying so
hard and I'm putting so much into everything, and just
it feels like things are not working. And that's really
hard for me, because I like, dude, and what and
what like what isn't working that you're feeling because it's
from outside. I'm like, man, Chad and Tori are freaking
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killing it. I just feel like I have to force
everything and and every time I feel like I take
a step forward, there's like there's like a jungle I
have to climb through where it feels like maybe it
should just be one small step, right, but it's one
giant step, is what it feels like. And what are
those like? Realistically? What are what are those like? What
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is the step forward? Well? What is the actual uh
version of like the I guess the practical version of
a step forward? And then the practical like what is
the jungle? Yeah? So you know, I guess if I
look at it in terms of our home that we're building,
and by the way, I guess I just would like
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the privace by saying I get that a lot of
these things are First War problems. I get it, But
that doesn't make them less important to me, you know,
and so they still carry weight in my heart. Like
I'm sure a lot of people know this, but when
you like translate the word glory, it's like weightiness to weight.
And so I'm just realizing how much weight I'm giving things,
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how much glory I'm giving things in my life that
it's not meant for me, it's meant for God. That's
why earlier talking about all glory to God and not
myself because I can't handle that weight. I can't because
I'm realizing the weight of building our home and trying
to start a family. I mean, like Tory and I
I don't, I don't. I don't know if she wants
me to share this. I mean, like not as bad,
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but we thought we were. We thought we were preggant
last month. And it's just hard. You just when you're
trying to do so many things and you think you're
doing things the right way and they don't work. It's
just really really frustrating because it's like you think there's
a formula for everything, but there isn't. And like you
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take notes and you try hard and you're intentional and
you redo things and you're and then when he's just
like just constant, just trying to like figure things out,
it's just I'm so tired of working so hard. I'm
I'm really tired of working so hard. And I know
that there is like I think the thing that I
probably need the most advice on right now is like,
am I living a lie in the capacity that I
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think that once we get into this house and once
we settle down, then things will get better because I
feel like every week I say, oh, when things slow down,
next week, it'll get better, But then every week thereafter
it's just the craziest week. Bro. Read the book. He
talks about that a lot. I'm like, read them at
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your best, Like he talks about that specifically when things
slow down when and it never does. And That's what
I'm realizing that just it's not slowing down. The cycle
never stops, you know, um unless you really really intentionally
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put so much structure. Yeah, that allows you space to
breathe and to live and to enjoy things and even
even your work or and whatever it is. But dude,
I'm that's sorry to hear that. Man. Yeah, I appreciate it.
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And it's another another thing, like in just terms of
how things are not always what they look like in
social media you know where I mean. Don't get me wrong,
we are We're having great successes and a lot of
winds and a lot of ways. But I feel like
I'm having to, like, you know yet like like pool
these things as hard as I can to make them happen,
you know. And you know, it just makes me think
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of that scripture, like, you know, give me your burden
and take upon my yoke beause my my yoke is
is light and it's easy, and I feel like I
just need to do that. But I think I'm just
having a hard time because I'm not used to relying
on God. And this is something I talked about with
that master Bin group a lot. I haven't got a
chance to update you guys on, but I've realized that
I've just had a hard time relying on God and
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asking him for help because I'm just not used to
depending on anyone for help. I'm used to just doing
everything myself, and I it's even impacted my marriage because
Tori wants to do things together. I'm just not used
to it. I'm used to just white knuckling, which if
you don't know what that means, but it's just clench
your fists as hard as you can and keep it there,
and your knuckles will go white because the blood leaves
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and and I feel like I'm just like squeezing trying
to make anything happen, and it's hard because you just
it's not just like one thing. It's not like just
work or just the home, or just trying to get
pregnant or just trying to like I feel like the
other day. I was explaining it to our team the
other day where I just feel like I'm trying to
haul butt in this car while rebuilding the engine at
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the same time, and it's so difficult to do that
because like you're constantly refining. Not only am I being
refined spiritually, but I'm being refined physically in terms of
like trying to like bring new people on right train people,
you know, how do I how do I create a
space that's gonna thrive but then also still hustle in
the current space and I'm in and yeah, man, I've
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just felt so heavy. And then I also like there's
parts where I know there's times I need to cry
with my wife, but there's also times I really want
to be strong for her to, like, especially when it
comes to try to get pregnant, because like we we
took a test and we were we were like filming
it like not for like just YouTube, but just like
for our own self, and and we were we were
jack because we really felt hopeful and like because she
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was late, like late late, and we thought it was
it and it wasn't. And it's just one of those
things where we we we we moved on other people
go through this, you know, but it's just like it
definitely has felt like it's hard whenever you really want
something and you and you're doing what you think needs
to get done to make things happen, and it just
doesn't work. Um. Yeah, So I think that's a lot
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of the heaviness I've been feeling. But it is even
like content stuff like that, Like I this is just
me just complaining. But I will put so much work
into a video, like so much work and so much thought,
and it'll flop and then Tory and I Zach knows this.
Tory and I will record a video an hour before
it goes live, unfiltered, unedited, just posted, no field, no
no anything, and it performs number one. Like ask him
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zag messages He's the next day He's like, so are
you guys firing me? That's hilarious. So but I do
want to say this because you know how you're like
finding the solace in it, and I feel like I
also feel very thankful that I just get to sit
like in the weeds with you guys. I think you're
figuring a lot of stuff out right, okay, But I
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do think that there's a lot of value and having
people to sit with because you know, I've shared this before,
but when you look at the book of Job, you know,
the like the best thing that Job's friends did for
him was listened to him, and the worst thing that
they did is they told him what he did wrong,
you know, like they talked. And so I think there's
something so powerful about sitting with friends and everyone who's listening.
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If you're feeling super heavy, you know, or you have
a friend that is you know, definitely just sit with
them because we're all going through stuff together and it's
nice just to not feel alone in that in that hardship.
You know, like I haven't I've been holding onto those
tears for a minute, you know. It just it's almost
like you're just waiting and then like some like the
(25:45):
jokes in that episode last week actually um and like
then out of nowhere, somebody like steps on your foot
and you just break down. But you know it's because
of so many other reasons. So it's good to be
able to just process and get things out there. Damn man. Wow,
So what's the next? Boys? Don't just not just in
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the podcast, So I just mean, like, what's sitting a circle?
Because I think the thing that I literally you're just like,
what do we talk about now? Just been like because
that's the whole time I listen to chat, I'm just
thinking cool, like what's sick? I hear you, but like,
but what's next? Like let's you know, I don't know
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if it's just I'm naive or um arrogant, I don't know,
but I have so much of it, like this stuff,
I'm like, all right, that's awesome, and how do we
use that now? And how do we like power forward?
And how do we stay positive and stay because I
think that's the thing we are all. Like the thing
that I gravitate towards with you guys is that it
is an undertone of positivity. Sounds super lame but just
(26:54):
smart and b but like it's like for me, the
thing I love about us boys is we always want
to be bringing back to a positive space. And so
like I don't know, and not that that wasn't positive.
That's real And I don't want to cover the realness
with like yeah, but it's all good because we don't know.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like, hey,
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what with all these things said, like what are we
looking forward? To what are the things that we're looking
forward to doing ourselves? Is it like for me, for example,
it's organizing my energy better. Reading this book, I'm like
already so excited by it because I can see the change.
It's had a new game, and so it's like, I know,
I just wanted to throw that out there, like what's
the next? What's the next? That's the beauset thing God
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has given us is the ability to go what's the next?
You know? I think for me it's definitely like there's
a tangible side which is checking out that book and
and like and practicing things that are actually going to
help my situation. How much did we mention the book
in this podcast because just for people who we reference it,
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but it's called at your Best by carrying New Half
just for people who are listening, because we keep going
in the book. We talked about it a lot in
the Last of the Bible. That book is better. Yeah,
capital capital b Uh what reason? I was just saying,
I think there's a tangible side where we where we
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you know, sharpen each other like that. But I also
think there's the other side where there's a death, like
there's an emotional break I think. And when I say break,
I don't mean like almost like we're on a break,
you know, like not like friends, but like it's saying
like oh wow, like it's more like a pivot. Pivot.
I had to do it. I think there's something really
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special about Whenever these times happened to me, it's like
I'm clued in, like, oh wow. The reason why I'm
feeling so off is because I'm putting this all on
me to do X y Z. And it's not all
about me. It's it's it's all about God, and for me,
it's like it just helps. Whenever I'm just reminded of that,
you know, it's one of those things, I'm just like,
oh wow, like wait a second, Like that's because I'm
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making this about what I wanted to be, not about
what God is making it. And there's actually another book
if if you all are interested. I hate saying the
title for obvious reasons. It's called the title. It's called
Leaf by Niggle. Okay, there we go, and I G. G.
L E okay and C. S. Lewis's store ye and
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oh right right right right right yeah, And you're like, chat,
what what are you reading now? Very far it's it's
basically the short story where there's this character named niggle,
which I guess what that word means is to do
something repeatedly to no avail, and um, you know it's
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it's a cool story. I would definitely recommend checking it out.
But it just reminds me that God definitely has a purpose,
um outside of what I think he's trying to do.
And and the more focused on what God is not doing,
the less I'm focused on what God is doing. And
I need to put my focus on what God actually
is doing and off myself, because you know, it's like
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the more it's almost like when we have a pimple,
you know, the more you look at it, the more
you poke it, the worse it gets, you know what
I mean. And I feel like we need to stop
picking at ourselves, Like, honestly, I think we need to
stop picking at ourselves, stop putting ourselves under the magnifying
glass and looking in the mirror and inspecting everything. Because
there is a tangible side where we do fix things,
like we check out books like that, we were finding
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each other, we sharpening each other. But there's also the
other side too, which is to say, oh, well, I'm
actually gonna arrest in the work that CHRISTI has already completed.
I I personally need that because it's so easy for
me to shift my happiness into my I don't say success,
but achievements and production, right and so, and then I
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start to operate like four love versus from love and
and for affirmation instead of from affirmation and and um.
The thing I guess I just want to remind all
three of us right now is that whenever we start
to attach our identity and self worth to our work
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or to our achievements or status, we're cheapening the worth
that God has given us, which is free, because we're
saying that, oh I can add to that. I can
add to that, and and even our best works could
never add to it. And sometimes it's nice just to
sit and rest in the work he's completed, because I
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know that my self worth is found in his work,
not my own. M Yeah, that's good, dude. It's like
it's kind of like because I have worth, I will
do this, yes, not because I want worth, I will
do this. You know. It's basically like how everything is
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in Australia, whereas everything is backwards or upside down, exactly.
You don't know how the toilet spins the other way exactly, Dude,
it doesn't even spin the other way. Doesn't know that
your toilets don't even spin, it just drops. It's because
the gravity gravitational pool. Dude, last time I paid in
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the toilet, the toilet wasn't spinning. Oh my gosh, I
can't stand. I can't stand. It's that I'm I'm like
always thinking of like YouTube jokes all the time. Now,
like how can I turn this into a joke? Um?
No about anyway? Yeah, dude, it's so bad. Um, but
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I don't know. I guess we're getting to a point
where we could wrap it up, but I just want
to make sure that, like we end, because it's the
two signs of the coin, right, Yeah, it's because you
you can fall into the mindset of like God has
done everything, therefore I don't need to do anything, but
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like God has given you a life to do something
incredible with, and yes, we can get stressed out about
it so much. And like, especially when you start working
on stuff and and you become like I don't know
more driven to just do things. Life just becomes so
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overwhelming with the amount of things that you that can
get on your plate. But I don't I don't think
saying like no, it's okay, God has fully got it
under control. Is the green light? Are the okay for
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you to not do anything about your current situation? It's
it's okay, I have it under control, which is the
green light to do something? Exactly? Yes, So I mean
go ahead. I was just gonna say, like James too,
like throughout works is dead right, like just you know,
if you can believe that God's got it, and that's
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absolutely the truth. But it's what you said. It's because
of that, It's because of his salvation. It's because I'm
going to action. I'm gonna action here. I'm gonna action
it right now. And the more you receive that love
and peace knowing that He's completed work, you're driven to
work because it's a natural response. It's like whenever someone
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does something nice for you, what do you do say
thank you? It's like it was like a response. And
I feel like I don't remember who are the people
in the Bible, but it could have been like Peter
and John or something. They got arrested by the Sadducees
for like proclaiming the miracles Jesus was performing, and then
basically the crowds got super upset and they were like, oh,
you know, just like that, And then the basically thinking
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of the Australian guy with the dog, it's a hard
left right there, we're in Australia, it's a hard right.
Um so so, but basically the sadducis come in there
and they say, hey, we're going to release you, but
you can't talk about these things anymore. And then they
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reply and they say, how can we not but talk
about the things that we witnessed? And so with us,
how can we not but act right because of what
Christ has done for us and who who he has
called us right? How can we not? But then we
just can't get it twisted, you know. But you know
it's funny because we can act so much and and
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you find it all the time, all all the time
with because when you act, that is you're working right.
And the modern version of working well is working hard
h when really it needs to be working smart smart.
Because Jesus, the amount of times you just see him
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chilling by himself in the Bye Bowl is insane in
the amount that he did in three years with the
amount of time that he was literally just like chilling
with the homies. He was definitely an introvert, but he
was he was, he was. He just makes the much
Jesus was an introvert better. I feel like he was
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an I n F j oh my gosh. Anyway, where
was that going with that? Um? Yeah, we want to
work smart, right, Like we we may have this tendency.
And you see with so many pastors to write, they
have this calling on their life, they do this thing,
they do it all, and they get so overwhelmed and
so like they go to this degree of like just
so much their lives implode and they end up doing
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something crazy like cheating on a wife or whatever. You
see it so often and it's because this level of
stress that like is not meant to be there. And
you I'm just realizing that I and you can disagree
with me or whatever, but I know for me, me
working well is I need to work smart and that
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work is to to create a system and create rhythms
in my life and basically a flow to every week
that allows me to not be stressed and has time
blocked out for my wife and has time blocked out
for the Lord and you know, you know what I mean,
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like all the things, because you can wake up and
be like, I'm so excited to finally wake up tomorrow.
I skip my devotional you know, yesterday, but I'm gonna
get back into it tomorrow. You wake up, check your
phone first thing, boom, all of a sudden, your mind
is switched on to something else that's just distracted you.
And it's like you you could have just set into
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your life to not check your phone for the first
hour and spend that time with you know what I mean, like,
just play some structure and rules in your life. A
great life's built by great years, and great years are
built by great weeks. So great weeks are built by
great day. So it's like, how are you structuring those
things in essentially creating a format to thrive. Yeah, because
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it's going to bless your whole life, And I want
to The reason I want to put off that because
you know I'm sub to that. I'm like a hunter
tour and I have our weekly calendars, like we're we're
in it. Calendar change your life. You know, we have
the big family tea and you got the one that
we had the big steps. Well, t J created it,
but then they saw family teams and so shout out
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t J love you. Um So I just want people
to hear this and know that, like what Gabe saying
isn't like exclusive to him, Like, yes, he has an
extraordinarily busy life and so he probably needs to Everyone
does though, everyone, And that's what I'm saying. It may
seem like, oh, I'm just in school or oh I
you know, i just worked this job right now, but
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your life was going to get increasingly busy and busier,
especially with what you're saying. Either in the last episode
earlier this one, we talked about how people, social media,
everything is vying for your attention right now. Everything is
fighting for your eyes and your ears. Everything is fighting
for them right and you have to You can't just
react to life. You can't just let life happen and
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you react to it. You need to happen to life,
and you need to set in that really good structure
that allows you to take control. Otherwise all you're doing
is reacting, which is you know, I don't mean this
in a derogatory sense, but that's what atheists believe is
there's we're molecules in motion just reacting to what's happening.
And know we're created on purpose for a purpose where
we we need to take control of our life to
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walk in that purpose on purpose. And and I love
what you're saying because it almost sounds like, oh, that's
a lot of work, But no, you have to do this.
You have to take control of it, or else you
will be stressed and you will be overwhelmed, and you
will be upset and sad about why isn't life I
wanted working out the way I want, because like, some
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times it doesn't. But there are things that you can
practically set up in your life that will change the
outcome of things, like for every for every uh, for
every like causing effect, right, for every effect, everything that happens,
there's something that caused it, you know what I mean.
I thought you're going Newton what I thought you're going
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through third law of motion, But no, every reactions whatever,
they're all the same thing. They're like causing effect, action reaction.
But like, yeah, science, you guys get it. Science, you
know what I'm saying. Um No, But like if you
keep having relationship problems and you're like, oh, all the
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boyfriends that I've had are all the girlfriends that I've
had are like the worst people ever and treat me
like crap. It's who's the common denominator. Yes, the thing
that's connecting them all is the choices that you're making.
If you change nothing theme, nothing changes. Yes, what is
that saying? The the person who does the same thing
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that the person who continues to do the same thing
and expects a different result. The definition of insanity is
the person who does the same thing and expects a
different result every time. Just change it up, y'all, change
it up, change the game, be different. It happened to life.
Let's just all throughout cliches bingo bango bango, wash on
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your believe you're cliche boa clich bingo bango. Yo. What's up? Guys?
Thank you so much for watching this episode of prompt Us.
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Prompt Us is a production of I Heart Radio. What's Up, guys,
Welcome back to the prompt Us podcast. This is Gabriel.
I am one of your hosts. I'm here joined with
your other hosts, Chad and Zach Howdy had a partner.
And what I'm just just like saying, how it a
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you know, I'm just saying, what the deal? That's good? Anyway,
we last podcast last week, we were talking. We were
just like catching up and having a big The podcast
was basically like talking about our problems, working through them
together and doing it in public fashion on the podcast.
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And I talked the entire time about all my problems.
So we had to split this into two and now
it's your guys turn. So I'll stop talking and go
you want Do you want me to start? Because I
think you'll have some fire had to follow up. So alright, So,
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so what's our context? How how we are? Where we're at?
Is that? Is that where we're at right now? How
are you doing? You just speak from the heart? What
is occupying most of your He just rips one because
he thought he thought you said speak from the fart,
speak from the fart. Oh sick, No, Just what is
what is occupying most of your mental and emotional capacity
(01:24):
right now? Right now, dude, it's like trying to be
self confident, which has sounds so umbrella, but you know, confidential, equity,
confidence past. Oh it's slaps, it's last. But yeah, I
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feel like right now I'm really just trying to work out,
like I don't know, man, who I am in in
what I create and why I create something, really trying
to find the why about it, because like I know
why I'm married, I know why I go to church,
I know why i'm a I know a lot of
things about my identity. But I'm still in this space
where it's like, so, why am I creative other than
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I have a skill set? Um? If that does that
make sense? It's like, well, growing up making stuff, and
so I've refined it. What about do you want enough?
But what about Like yeah, I was going to ask,
what about So you have the skill set, but is
it also like a desire to create as well? Do
you have that? Like? Okay, so it's almost so it's
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not just the skills, it's almost matched with a desire
to do it. Yeah, totally, You're so right, and and
that's so true. But then it's like I wonder there's
a part of me that's like is there another part
to that? Or do I just need to hone in
on that? So yeah, I'm just really trying to push
into like my skill sets. Hey, like trying to keep
learning right now and um, oh day let's get real.
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I guess hey, um, just the self doubt pop my boys?
Can I speak? I know I've been speaking way too much,
but you're good, dude. Can I just speak into that
because you were about to go like heavy m yeah,
and I'm ready for it. But I just wanted to
speak into the last thing that you just said for
a second, because we're going through like a very similar
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stage of like developing our content and stuff. For so long,
I didn't create content because I'm like, it needs to
have meaning to it, and it did. But what I realized,
and I think it was like through COVID happening and
every the world just kind of going crazy for so long,
what I gravitated towards as far as the content that
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I was consuming was something that was just lighthearted and funny,
that I could escape and just enjoy something that was
and for me, that like meant so much to me
that there was content out there that wasn't focused on
all the crap that's already happening in the world, because
basically everyone was just like I could only talk about
the crap, and then there was like it seemed like
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there was few avenues online that was like, oh no, no,
but here's something that's actually lighthearted and in fun and
can like lift up my spirit and just make me laugh,
like I just wanted to laugh. And it didn't need
to be anything like super overly like emotionally meaningful. It's
just like it literally the meaning was that it made
me laugh and just made my day better. And I
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was like, that is what I used to do, and
that is why people like followed me in the first place. Yeah,
and I should start doing And that's why I started
making the content again that I did, because I was like,
there's meaning and that there's meaning and just like goofing
off for ten to fifteen twenty minutes on a video
and just having fun with people, you know what I mean.
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But I feel that because sometimes a lot of people,
well it is going to sound like a humble brag.
I don't mean it that way at all, but people
are like, oh wow, It's so cool how how many
comments you reply to because I'll spend hours replying to
comments on YouTube. But people don't understand. I don't do
it for them. I do it for me because I
go read the comments selfish and even if you self listen,
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how dare you? Even if the video tanks? But I
see that one person that said I needed this today,
then it was worth it, right, And it helps me,
um get on the same level as people that are watching,
versus feeling regret and lack of self confidence for all
the people who aren't. And so that really impacts me
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because I'll see stuff and I'm just like, oh wow,
this is why I do what I do. Right. It's
not for all of this, right, it's it's for that.
And that's why I spend so much time in there
is because otherwise I get obsessed with all of that. Yeah,
So Zack, totally go deep. Okay, I didn't come like
that deep all right, Zack, Now it's your time to
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go deep. Um yeah, I mean it's actually I'm glad
you guys said all that stuff because it's really timely
reminder and like, oh yeah, okay cool. So I mean
I think a big part of what I'm going through
right now is just the self doubt part of like, one,
why am I here? Like how did I get to
this point? Two? What are the things? When you take
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an opportunity, you're also saying no to a lot of
other opportunities, right every other opportunity have I said? You know,
have I said no to the right opportunities? Have I
said yes to the right opportunities? And I think I'm
getting really caught up in the decisions that I made
rather than getting excited about the decisions I could make.
And I think that's like my current struggle battle in
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my head. Um is that because it's like, Okay, if
I'm going to spend my time, the older I get,
I'm realized, if I'm going to spend my energy in
the time on something, it's going to hold value. And
I'm starting to realize that just doesn't It just doesn't
have to hold value or it holds value and I
just don't realize, which is what you're saying, Gabe, Like, Hey,
if I'm making this song with a mate, it's like that,
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actually it's the time together that's valuable, not my skill
set as a producer. And the snare drum slaps and like,
because that's I guess it's so easy as a creative right,
You're just like you get so caught up in the
details rather than the enjoyment of the creation, like creating
and um, something that my mate said to me, or
I was talking with the mate Nathan. We're talking about
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how f the world is my matinee. Yeah, I've been
shotting to my matenee my mate no um, and we
were just talking about like how whack the world is.
Like We're just like it's there's just so much, you know,
and there always has been, I guess in some capacity
we live in a fallen world and stuff like that.
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But I just said to him and I was I
didn't feel like I was saying I just felt like,
oh wow, that was important. I need to hear that.
But I just said, like, man, that's why I love creating,
because creating isn't just dwelling, and what the world is
creating is adding value and joy and excitement to the world.
And so I'm like, the last two days has been
just like how do I focus on that? Just focus
on that. It's actually not about what I'm creating, It's
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not about the format it's not about whether it's video
or music or art or communication. I would say talking
is creativity. It's about like the intention behind it and
if it's exactly what you're talking about gave in the
last podcast, like really having to remind myself like I'm
doing this because like there is like there is hope
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out there, and there is there is just so much
better um, there is just so much joy out there.
But I think the world is focused so hyper focused
on this kind of negative space right now. And I'm like,
all right, exactly what you said, Like if I could
add something positive um to the world, I guess, but
then there's just so much weight that comes with that,
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and so it's hard. By it's hard. It's so easy
to be like, yeah, I'm just gonna make content that's
super positive and like chill, but it's like now there's weight.
Well I hope people like it. Yeah, I mean there
is There's always going to be There's always gonna be
that pressure, right, you know, because if you're doing anything creative,
you're kind of performing in a way. You know, Like
when I turned on the camera and I'm reacting to something,
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I'm like, okay, am I going to am I am
I funny enough today? Did I say enough jokes that
landed today? You know, like that sort of stuff? And
I don't know. I'm just like I try and like
put that aside since I know I can just fix
it in the edit. Go okay, but you joked about that.
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You joke about that, But it is the most true.
I know. I know it's like, oh, that wasn't funny,
but I can just like add like a little sound
effect and like a zoom in and a little warp
or something and it's funny. No, But um, yeah, man,
I mean I think, and I'm gonna say this, I
think it's something that I didn't touch on and the
last one. But I feel like it's really approached not
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to talk about myself and I talk about myself because
I feel like I really see you. Um. When I
was going through it was probably like last like starting
maybe two or three weeks ago, and like a few
weeks before that, come back to do YouTube and I'm
trying to do this thing, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
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I feel so uncapable of making this work, and I
feel so washed up and just not confident with with
for me in particular, it was it was like, I've
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done stuff with the Justin Gabriel channel for so long
and now I'm like, I'm doing something Gabriel Conti. That's
like the Gabriel Conti brand, not bringing Jess into it,
just strictly what can I What can I, as Gabriel
Conte make as a creator, And it's been really difficult,
Like you go and see the view like fully can
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go and see the views on my channel before I
made I started making the videos I'm making now, like
with the series and the stuff that I did to
now where I'm like, I'm gonna be I'm gonna make
consistent content and do you know whatever? Um And it's
just and there's lots of reasons for it, and we
talked about all the time. There's like the algorithm and
change of format and all these things that play factors
into like how you do push the stuff out, but
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not knowing how to fix it has made me like
I am an incapable creator mm hmm, And am I
wasting my time doing this? Dude? That's exactly what it
feels like. So I don't know if there was any
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like positive spin on that, but that was I think
I was more like for sympathies sympathy's sake, then I
I feel really lucky to get emotional about this now,
and then I can throw at each hat and then
you can just make us all cry. But I'm already
crying pretty much. I'm feeling. OK. I just want to
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acknowledge the fact that, like it is wild that I
go through my own season of like I'm going to
pivot out of music into YouTube and I'm gonna, you know,
try and create this way. And it's always been on
my heart since I was a kid, and all this
blah blah stuff, and then it's like you and I
can talk about almost similar things where it's like we
just don't feel like we've worked it out yet or
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whatever it may be. And I just think that's wild
as well, like who God puts in your life to
be able to talk about that stuff and saying with
Chad as well, like the stuff Chat and I talk
about with like boundaries and like learning what those guys
do to set their boundaries, what I need to do
set boundaries, and we're it's fully different contexts, like if
you put us in a room or a podcast and
like really just like breakdown where we're all at our
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age is everything. It's such a different context, but it's
the human condition, right, Like there's just so much that
is similar. And so anyway, you're my brows. I love
you guys. I just wanted to acknowledge that because I
just think it's incredible that we can even have. These
are like the things that I like struggle to sleep
with because I'm just like, am I just not doing it?
Is this not it? Like I don't know that self
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doubt really takes over. But knowing that, like I can
kind of engage with you guys and really deep died,
that's super awesome. So with that being said, chat bring
it home. It's a long way home. Well I'm gonna well, dude,
I think I think I'll cut you off real quick
to just kind of bring it. Cut you off, Chad,
you haven't even started, but I'm still cutting um, just
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like I guess to bring some positive solace. Is that
the right word solace? Solace to the to like what
we're saying. For me in particular, when I was like
dealing with that, and that was probably like a few
weeks of like my internal monologue was you are washed up,
you are an incapable creator and you need to cash
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out on social media now because it's not gonna last
a long time. Like that's literally what was going in
my head for weeks. Like it was a fluke. People
like your relationship with Jess, but you're you're actually you
as a creative person is not going to work. That
was my mom like literally, and I would talk to
Jess about it and I'm like, I don't know what
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I'm like, what am I doing? What am I actually doing?
You know? Um? And then it got to the point
where and I talked about it about the affirmations or
the maximum or whatever you want to the title you
want to put on it, but I was like, Okay,
what is this for? What is the what am I
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doing this for? Like what's the why in this? And
just kind of like realizing, Yeah, i have these goals
to like grow on social media and do all these
things and like accomplish these things. But I'm not going
to be upset throughout the process until I get there.
I want to have joy in the process the whole way,
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you know, so really knowing like I'm just going to
build today for Jesus with Jesus with joy like that
is that is what I'm going to do today When
I put my hands to the plow right answer the
plans when you put your hands to the paddles on
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the F one, don't even get me literally, I try
and end my work day like before six, just so
I can spend an hour on the sim it happens
like I realistically I'm probably on there like two or
three times a week, but it's flipping. I'm not like
every night for like three hours. Just like eyes bleeding
looking at the screen, no judgment. That sounds dope, it's
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so good. Well, they thank you for saying that, very like,
I think such a good reminded man like and it's
not something that I think about every moment of the day.
I think it's just one of those things that when
you get into it, you get into it. And that's
a bit of the trap, not just not just like
the influence of YouTube content. Trap, like just as a person.
The trap is over analyzing and just diving into d
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like it's so good to do, but if you're not
doing it with a heart position positively, you're really just
gonna beat yourself up the whole way through. You know.
It's like it's just a good reminded man that like
getting Yeah, every day it's like, hey, here's my new opportunity.
It's like you actually have an opportunity every day to
like build kingdom, build joy in people, like encourage people. Um,
it's a good reminded bros. Thank you mane. Yeah, yeah,
(16:23):
I feel that too. I am as you guys were
sharing all that. I mean, first off, I haven't really
updated you guys and where I'm at and I'm in
the same place. Um, do you ever just feel like
you're head butting a wall, like just constantly and you
just can't break through, and you're just like and everything
just feels so heavy. Like I just like, as you
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guys were sharing, I just couldn't help but think about
like how God has given us everything but one thing.
He hasn't given us his glory. And He's given us
the ability to create. He's given this ability to procreate,
He's given this ability to build and to be generous
and to help and all these things, but it's always
for his glory, not our own, because glory will make
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us sick. If you remember Josh's sermon in l A,
and I just feel like you know us in the
pursuit of glory. If if we're doing all these things
for our own glory and we're not receiving it, we're
gonna get down on ourselves or worse. Or if we
are receiving glory, we're gonna become prideful or worse. And
I just feel like getting back down to the boiled, like,
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boil everything down. What is this for? Just what you
guys were saying, is it is it? Is it for
his kingdom or your kingdom? Then I think that that
really helps, because I think the thing that I've really
been struggling with the most right now is just that
I just feel like I try so hard and I
want to finish that song almost got some so hard. No,
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I'm like laughing through like tears right now, but I
just feel like I just feel like I'm trying so
hard and I'm putting so much into everything, and just
it feels like things are not working. And that's really
hard for me, because I like, dude, and what and
what like what isn't working that you're feeling because it's
from outside. I'm like, man, Chad and Tori are freaking
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killing it. I just feel like I have to force
everything and and every time I feel like I take
a step forward, there's like there's like a jungle I
have to climb through where it feels like maybe it
should just be one small step, right, but it's one
giant step, is what it feels like. And what are
those like? Realistically? What are what are those like? What
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is the step forward? Well? What is the actual uh
version of like the I guess the practical version of
a step forward? And then the practical like what is
the jungle? Yeah? So you know, I guess if I
look at it in terms of our home that we're building,
and by the way, I guess I just would like
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the privace by saying I get that a lot of
these things are First War problems. I get it, But
that doesn't make them less important to me, you know,
and so they still carry weight in my heart. Like
I'm sure a lot of people know this, but when
you like translate the word glory, it's like weightiness to weight.
And so I'm just realizing how much weight I'm giving things,
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how much glory I'm giving things in my life that
it's not meant for me, it's meant for God. That's
why earlier talking about all glory to God and not
myself because I can't handle that weight. I can't because
I'm realizing the weight of building our home and trying
to start a family. I mean, like Tory and I
I don't, I don't. I don't know if she wants
me to share this. I mean, like not as bad,
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but we thought we were. We thought we were preggant
last month. And it's just hard. You just when you're
trying to do so many things and you think you're
doing things the right way and they don't work. It's
just really really frustrating because it's like you think there's
a formula for everything, but there isn't. And like you
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take notes and you try hard and you're intentional and
you redo things and you're and then when he's just
like just constant, just trying to like figure things out,
it's just I'm so tired of working so hard. I'm
I'm really tired of working so hard. And I know
that there is like I think the thing that I
probably need the most advice on right now is like,
am I living a lie in the capacity that I
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think that once we get into this house and once
we settle down, then things will get better because I
feel like every week I say, oh, when things slow down,
next week, it'll get better, But then every week thereafter
it's just the craziest week. Bro. Read the book. He
talks about that a lot. I'm like, read them at
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your best, Like he talks about that specifically when things
slow down when and it never does. And That's what
I'm realizing that just it's not slowing down. The cycle
never stops, you know, um unless you really really intentionally
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put so much structure. Yeah, that allows you space to
breathe and to live and to enjoy things and even
even your work or and whatever it is. But dude,
I'm that's sorry to hear that. Man. Yeah, I appreciate it.
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And it's another another thing, like in just terms of
how things are not always what they look like in
social media you know where I mean. Don't get me wrong,
we are We're having great successes and a lot of
winds and a lot of ways. But I feel like
I'm having to, like, you know yet like like pool
these things as hard as I can to make them happen,
you know. And you know, it just makes me think
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of that scripture, like, you know, give me your burden
and take upon my yoke beause my my yoke is
is light and it's easy, and I feel like I
just need to do that. But I think I'm just
having a hard time because I'm not used to relying
on God. And this is something I talked about with
that master Bin group a lot. I haven't got a
chance to update you guys on, but I've realized that
I've just had a hard time relying on God and
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asking him for help because I'm just not used to
depending on anyone for help. I'm used to just doing
everything myself, and I it's even impacted my marriage because
Tori wants to do things together. I'm just not used
to it. I'm used to just white knuckling, which if
you don't know what that means, but it's just clench
your fists as hard as you can and keep it there,
and your knuckles will go white because the blood leaves
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and and I feel like I'm just like squeezing trying
to make anything happen, and it's hard because you just
it's not just like one thing. It's not like just
work or just the home, or just trying to get
pregnant or just trying to like I feel like the
other day. I was explaining it to our team the
other day where I just feel like I'm trying to
haul butt in this car while rebuilding the engine at
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the same time, and it's so difficult to do that
because like you're constantly refining. Not only am I being
refined spiritually, but I'm being refined physically in terms of
like trying to like bring new people on right train people,
you know, how do I how do I create a
space that's gonna thrive but then also still hustle in
the current space and I'm in and yeah, man, I've
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just felt so heavy. And then I also like there's
parts where I know there's times I need to cry
with my wife, but there's also times I really want
to be strong for her to, like, especially when it
comes to try to get pregnant, because like we we
took a test and we were we were like filming
it like not for like just YouTube, but just like
for our own self, and and we were we were
jack because we really felt hopeful and like because she
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was late, like late late, and we thought it was
it and it wasn't. And it's just one of those
things where we we we we moved on other people
go through this, you know, but it's just like it
definitely has felt like it's hard whenever you really want
something and you and you're doing what you think needs
to get done to make things happen, and it just
doesn't work. Um. Yeah, So I think that's a lot
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of the heaviness I've been feeling. But it is even
like content stuff like that, Like I this is just
me just complaining. But I will put so much work
into a video, like so much work and so much thought,
and it'll flop and then Tory and I Zach knows this.
Tory and I will record a video an hour before
it goes live, unfiltered, unedited, just posted, no field, no
no anything, and it performs number one. Like ask him
(24:39):
zag messages He's the next day He's like, so are
you guys firing me? That's hilarious. So but I do
want to say this because you know how you're like
finding the solace in it, and I feel like I
also feel very thankful that I just get to sit
like in the weeds with you guys. I think you're
figuring a lot of stuff out right, okay, But I
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do think that there's a lot of value and having
people to sit with because you know, I've shared this before,
but when you look at the book of Job, you know,
the like the best thing that Job's friends did for
him was listened to him, and the worst thing that
they did is they told him what he did wrong,
you know, like they talked. And so I think there's
something so powerful about sitting with friends and everyone who's listening.
(25:24):
If you're feeling super heavy, you know, or you have
a friend that is you know, definitely just sit with
them because we're all going through stuff together and it's
nice just to not feel alone in that in that hardship.
You know, like I haven't I've been holding onto those
tears for a minute, you know. It just it's almost
like you're just waiting and then like some like the
(25:45):
jokes in that episode last week actually um and like
then out of nowhere, somebody like steps on your foot
and you just break down. But you know it's because
of so many other reasons. So it's good to be
able to just process and get things out there. Damn man. Wow,
So what's the next? Boys? Don't just not just in
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the podcast, So I just mean, like, what's sitting a circle?
Because I think the thing that I literally you're just like,
what do we talk about now? Just been like because
that's the whole time I listen to chat, I'm just
thinking cool, like what's sick? I hear you, but like,
but what's next? Like let's you know, I don't know
(26:30):
if it's just I'm naive or um arrogant, I don't know,
but I have so much of it, like this stuff,
I'm like, all right, that's awesome, and how do we
use that now? And how do we like power forward?
And how do we stay positive and stay because I
think that's the thing we are all. Like the thing
that I gravitate towards with you guys is that it
is an undertone of positivity. Sounds super lame but just
(26:54):
smart and b but like it's like for me, the
thing I love about us boys is we always want
to be bringing back to a positive space. And so
like I don't know, and not that that wasn't positive.
That's real And I don't want to cover the realness
with like yeah, but it's all good because we don't know.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like, hey,
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what with all these things said, like what are we
looking forward? To what are the things that we're looking
forward to doing ourselves? Is it like for me, for example,
it's organizing my energy better. Reading this book, I'm like
already so excited by it because I can see the change.
It's had a new game, and so it's like, I know,
I just wanted to throw that out there, like what's
the next? What's the next? That's the beauset thing God
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has given us is the ability to go what's the next?
You know? I think for me it's definitely like there's
a tangible side which is checking out that book and
and like and practicing things that are actually going to
help my situation. How much did we mention the book
in this podcast because just for people who we reference it,
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but it's called at your Best by carrying New Half
just for people who are listening, because we keep going
in the book. We talked about it a lot in
the Last of the Bible. That book is better. Yeah,
capital capital b Uh what reason? I was just saying,
I think there's a tangible side where we where we
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you know, sharpen each other like that. But I also
think there's the other side where there's a death, like
there's an emotional break I think. And when I say break,
I don't mean like almost like we're on a break,
you know, like not like friends, but like it's saying
like oh wow, like it's more like a pivot. Pivot.
I had to do it. I think there's something really
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special about Whenever these times happened to me, it's like
I'm clued in, like, oh wow. The reason why I'm
feeling so off is because I'm putting this all on
me to do X y Z. And it's not all
about me. It's it's it's all about God, and for me,
it's like it just helps. Whenever I'm just reminded of that,
you know, it's one of those things, I'm just like,
oh wow, like wait a second, Like that's because I'm
(29:02):
making this about what I wanted to be, not about
what God is making it. And there's actually another book
if if you all are interested. I hate saying the
title for obvious reasons. It's called the title. It's called
Leaf by Niggle. Okay, there we go, and I G. G.
L E okay and C. S. Lewis's store ye and
(29:25):
oh right right right right right yeah, And you're like, chat,
what what are you reading now? Very far it's it's
basically the short story where there's this character named niggle,
which I guess what that word means is to do
something repeatedly to no avail, and um, you know it's
(29:47):
it's a cool story. I would definitely recommend checking it out.
But it just reminds me that God definitely has a purpose,
um outside of what I think he's trying to do.
And and the more focused on what God is not doing,
the less I'm focused on what God is doing. And
I need to put my focus on what God actually
is doing and off myself, because you know, it's like
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the more it's almost like when we have a pimple,
you know, the more you look at it, the more
you poke it, the worse it gets, you know what
I mean. And I feel like we need to stop
picking at ourselves, Like, honestly, I think we need to
stop picking at ourselves, stop putting ourselves under the magnifying
glass and looking in the mirror and inspecting everything. Because
there is a tangible side where we do fix things,
like we check out books like that, we were finding
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each other, we sharpening each other. But there's also the
other side too, which is to say, oh, well, I'm
actually gonna arrest in the work that CHRISTI has already completed.
I I personally need that because it's so easy for
me to shift my happiness into my I don't say success,
but achievements and production, right and so, and then I
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start to operate like four love versus from love and
and for affirmation instead of from affirmation and and um.
The thing I guess I just want to remind all
three of us right now is that whenever we start
to attach our identity and self worth to our work
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or to our achievements or status, we're cheapening the worth
that God has given us, which is free, because we're
saying that, oh I can add to that. I can
add to that, and and even our best works could
never add to it. And sometimes it's nice just to
sit and rest in the work he's completed, because I
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know that my self worth is found in his work,
not my own. M Yeah, that's good, dude. It's like
it's kind of like because I have worth, I will
do this, yes, not because I want worth, I will
do this. You know. It's basically like how everything is
(31:54):
in Australia, whereas everything is backwards or upside down, exactly.
You don't know how the toilet spins the other way exactly, Dude,
it doesn't even spin the other way. Doesn't know that
your toilets don't even spin, it just drops. It's because
the gravity gravitational pool. Dude, last time I paid in
(32:14):
the toilet, the toilet wasn't spinning. Oh my gosh, I
can't stand. I can't stand. It's that I'm I'm like
always thinking of like YouTube jokes all the time. Now,
like how can I turn this into a joke? Um?
No about anyway? Yeah, dude, it's so bad. Um, but
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I don't know. I guess we're getting to a point
where we could wrap it up, but I just want
to make sure that, like we end, because it's the
two signs of the coin, right, Yeah, it's because you
you can fall into the mindset of like God has
done everything, therefore I don't need to do anything, but
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like God has given you a life to do something
incredible with, and yes, we can get stressed out about
it so much. And like, especially when you start working
on stuff and and you become like I don't know
more driven to just do things. Life just becomes so
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overwhelming with the amount of things that you that can
get on your plate. But I don't I don't think
saying like no, it's okay, God has fully got it
under control. Is the green light? Are the okay for
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you to not do anything about your current situation? It's
it's okay, I have it under control, which is the
green light to do something? Exactly? Yes, So I mean
go ahead. I was just gonna say, like James too,
like throughout works is dead right, like just you know,
if you can believe that God's got it, and that's
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absolutely the truth. But it's what you said. It's because
of that, It's because of his salvation. It's because I'm
going to action. I'm gonna action here. I'm gonna action
it right now. And the more you receive that love
and peace knowing that He's completed work, you're driven to
work because it's a natural response. It's like whenever someone
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does something nice for you, what do you do say
thank you? It's like it was like a response. And
I feel like I don't remember who are the people
in the Bible, but it could have been like Peter
and John or something. They got arrested by the Sadducees
for like proclaiming the miracles Jesus was performing, and then
basically the crowds got super upset and they were like, oh,
you know, just like that, And then the basically thinking
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of the Australian guy with the dog, it's a hard
left right there, we're in Australia, it's a hard right.
Um so so, but basically the sadducis come in there
and they say, hey, we're going to release you, but
you can't talk about these things anymore. And then they
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reply and they say, how can we not but talk
about the things that we witnessed? And so with us,
how can we not but act right because of what
Christ has done for us and who who he has
called us right? How can we not? But then we
just can't get it twisted, you know. But you know
it's funny because we can act so much and and
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you find it all the time, all all the time
with because when you act, that is you're working right.
And the modern version of working well is working hard
h when really it needs to be working smart smart.
Because Jesus, the amount of times you just see him
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chilling by himself in the Bye Bowl is insane in
the amount that he did in three years with the
amount of time that he was literally just like chilling
with the homies. He was definitely an introvert, but he
was he was, he was. He just makes the much
Jesus was an introvert better. I feel like he was
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an I n F j oh my gosh. Anyway, where
was that going with that? Um? Yeah, we want to
work smart, right, Like we we may have this tendency.
And you see with so many pastors to write, they
have this calling on their life, they do this thing,
they do it all, and they get so overwhelmed and
so like they go to this degree of like just
so much their lives implode and they end up doing
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something crazy like cheating on a wife or whatever. You
see it so often and it's because this level of
stress that like is not meant to be there. And
you I'm just realizing that I and you can disagree
with me or whatever, but I know for me, me
working well is I need to work smart and that
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work is to to create a system and create rhythms
in my life and basically a flow to every week
that allows me to not be stressed and has time
blocked out for my wife and has time blocked out
for the Lord and you know, you know what I mean,
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like all the things, because you can wake up and
be like, I'm so excited to finally wake up tomorrow.
I skip my devotional you know, yesterday, but I'm gonna
get back into it tomorrow. You wake up, check your
phone first thing, boom, all of a sudden, your mind
is switched on to something else that's just distracted you.
And it's like you you could have just set into
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your life to not check your phone for the first
hour and spend that time with you know what I mean, like,
just play some structure and rules in your life. A
great life's built by great years, and great years are
built by great weeks. So great weeks are built by
great day. So it's like, how are you structuring those
things in essentially creating a format to thrive. Yeah, because
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it's going to bless your whole life, And I want
to The reason I want to put off that because
you know I'm sub to that. I'm like a hunter
tour and I have our weekly calendars, like we're we're
in it. Calendar change your life. You know, we have
the big family tea and you got the one that
we had the big steps. Well, t J created it,
but then they saw family teams and so shout out
(38:33):
t J love you. Um So I just want people
to hear this and know that, like what Gabe saying
isn't like exclusive to him, Like, yes, he has an
extraordinarily busy life and so he probably needs to Everyone
does though, everyone, And that's what I'm saying. It may
seem like, oh, I'm just in school or oh I
you know, i just worked this job right now, but
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your life was going to get increasingly busy and busier,
especially with what you're saying. Either in the last episode
earlier this one, we talked about how people, social media,
everything is vying for your attention right now. Everything is
fighting for your eyes and your ears. Everything is fighting
for them right and you have to You can't just
react to life. You can't just let life happen and
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you react to it. You need to happen to life,
and you need to set in that really good structure
that allows you to take control. Otherwise all you're doing
is reacting, which is you know, I don't mean this
in a derogatory sense, but that's what atheists believe is
there's we're molecules in motion just reacting to what's happening.
And know we're created on purpose for a purpose where
we we need to take control of our life to
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walk in that purpose on purpose. And and I love
what you're saying because it almost sounds like, oh, that's
a lot of work, But no, you have to do this.
You have to take control of it, or else you
will be stressed and you will be overwhelmed, and you
will be upset and sad about why isn't life I
wanted working out the way I want, because like, some
(40:00):
times it doesn't. But there are things that you can
practically set up in your life that will change the
outcome of things, like for every for every uh, for
every like causing effect, right, for every effect, everything that happens,
there's something that caused it, you know what I mean.
I thought you're going Newton what I thought you're going
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through third law of motion, But no, every reactions whatever,
they're all the same thing. They're like causing effect, action reaction.
But like, yeah, science, you guys get it. Science, you
know what I'm saying. Um No, But like if you
keep having relationship problems and you're like, oh, all the
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boyfriends that I've had are all the girlfriends that I've
had are like the worst people ever and treat me
like crap. It's who's the common denominator. Yes, the thing
that's connecting them all is the choices that you're making.
If you change nothing theme, nothing changes. Yes, what is
that saying? The the person who does the same thing
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that the person who continues to do the same thing
and expects a different result. The definition of insanity is
the person who does the same thing and expects a
different result every time. Just change it up, y'all, change
it up, change the game, be different. It happened to life.
Let's just all throughout cliches bingo bango bango, wash on
(41:30):
your believe you're cliche boa clich bingo bango. Yo. What's up? Guys?
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