June 28, 2025 • 40 mins
Cheryl is catching up with her producer, filling her in on what happened when she attended a recent wedding solo, and the MEN (yes, more than one) that caught her attention!
Then, Cheryl is in the hot seat when her producer tries to play matchmaker and set her up with an eligible bachelor who was recently on the pod!
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome back to I Do Part two.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's one of your celebrity mentors here on the pod,
Cheryl Burke, and today my producer, Heather wanted me to
pop on the mic because she said she had some
fun news to tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, I hate surprises, Heather. I'm literally look all yours God.
Hi's Cheryl. How's it going good. It's been a while,
I know, I know, since we had our really really
sad Valentine's Day episode.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Was that the last time that we did this together.
I mean I talked to you after that, not.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Me croock since then, but that's the last time the
audience heard from as we were doing a really sad episode.
I think that a lot of people ended up listening
to a lot of single people. Yeah, I know that
we weren't alone. We weren't alone, and we're not alone.
But I wanted to kind of catch up with you
a little bit before we kind of dive into that
(01:07):
you know, little fun surprise that I said I wanted
to talk to you about, but I wanted to kind
of hear from you, and I know our listeners do too,
about like what you've been up to lately. How have
you been feeling Obviously, you've been getting a lot of
press and like you know, been talking to the press
a lot about what's been going on in terms of
(01:28):
online stuff that you've been receiving. But I kind of
wanted to know overall, like how is Cheryl doing?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Did you also hear in the press that they asked
me the big d question about dating? And I was like, no,
we're not there yet.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well we're going to dive into all of that, of course,
but tell me that right now, on this day, how
is Cheryl doing?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Cheryl is a little like I'm just like, I feel
like I'm being pulled a million different directions. I'm also
working on another which we haven't announced yet, but I'm
working on another show and we're busy pitching that. But
it's a whole di re vibe. Like I told you before,
we press record here. So but it what I've noticed,
the pattern has been me having to grieve whatever or
(02:12):
however that may be my past. It is shoved in
my face and I have to deal with it because
I have no choice, right like, in order for me
to move on. And a lot of what I just
mentioned that I was doing has a lot to do
with that, and I think will help me when it
comes to my personal life as well.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, I kind of just wanted to talk to you
about that because obviously it's the summer, right, summertime is
a lock Girls summer, how Girl summer, but also wedding season, right.
I know that you were just a part of your
sister's wedding, and so I kind of wanted to know
what that was like for you, as somebody you've talked
(02:54):
about on this podcast that you've went through and you
had the big wedding yourself, and the big wedding became
an event for you and all of that. Now being
on the other side of things and being a guest
at a wedding and it's your sibling, what was that
experience like for you? Did you have a date or
were you solo? Kind of tell me a little bit
about that. Yeah, I had a few dates.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I'm kidding, that doesn't even sound right couping out of
my mouth, but okay, so a lot of things happened. One,
I was a makeup artist, so I didn't have time
to even do my own makeup, let alone. You know,
I had focus on my sister, like I was her
makeup artist for that weekend, I would say, because it
was rehearsal, dinner and wedding I didn't have I was
so I brought all of Sephora with me, and I
(03:38):
filled my car up to the roof. Literally was like
a mobile beauty department store. That was my actual car
right driving from wherever I lived to the Bay Area
checked in. Took me two days to unpack, literally, just
my OCD was in full effect.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So other than that and me thinking.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I had appendicitis the morning of her wedding, thinking I
had to go straight to the er, it was all smooth.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It great. Be real with me for a second, though,
because I went through both of my sisters getting married.
We've already talked about this that I've never been married
or engaged, and uh, you know one of those was
a little tougher for me than the other. Really. Yeah,
seeing my younger sister get married and ourt a family,
and you know, my other sister been married, and you know,
(04:28):
the kind of comments that I got at that wedding,
Oh interesting, when is it going to be your turn?
Always a bridesmaid, never a bride, Like these kinds of
comments were to you, And so I kind of just
want to know like even though you were totally in
it and being an active supportive member of your sister's
you know, thing like being there for the makeup. Was
(04:50):
there ever any moments, either the drive up or sitting
there were you where it was emotional for you in
a different way?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I think it was it's you are a personal thing
with my sister and I and our We've gone through
a lot with each other, and what was interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So so to answer.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Your question if you're trying to ask about like did
it bring up my ex husband or like that time together, No,
actually not at all. I was really choosing to be present.
I put my phone away. It was so emotional for
the both of us because yes, we do have an
age gap. I didn't get any you know, crazy Filipinos
(05:30):
for my family come up to me and be like,
you know.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
How are you feeling? Like none of that happened?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What was I think the emotional side was just my sister,
Like I think of my little sister as my daughter,
you know, And I don't want to talk more about
it than what I am talking about, but like you know,
there's just been very emotional between us. It's been a
rollercoaster and you know, like anybody's relationship. We evolve and
(05:57):
some people do it together and some people don't like
when I tell you we were so close, like we
would go on like extravagant, luxurious vacations when we were
both single in the past, and and then you know,
we all meet our other halves and stuff happened, and
so like, it was just beautiful to be able to
be present. And my sister has said something when I
(06:18):
was doing her and my sister was so emotional, like
literally it was just like and as she should be, right,
it was her day, but it was a different type
of emotion that I never actually felt. And since we
were both single in France together popping around, you know,
so it's like more of a family internal thing than
it was, you know, so sad that I'm not married
(06:40):
still type thing.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean, was there any anxiety? I mean, I know
I felt this before, having to go to a wedding alone,
you know, having just been a table with people alone,
having to hit the dance floor with people that you
maybe don't know that wasn't the experience. You didn't have,
no anxiety about being by yourself. No, actually love it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Now for my cousin's wedding, the first wedding I went
to after like it was my first wedding that I
attended since my wedding. Yes, definitely my sister. No, I
knew everybody, you know, it was all of our friends
and family, but I there were a couple of cute
guys and there was this one single dude. Okay, there
was this one single guy. When did you get there?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Excuse what happened? Taking me through the timeline.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So once I was done with my makeup artist duties,
I was able to actually look up for my makeup
brushes and I see other humans and so funny because strategically,
I'm pretty sure my sister and her husband put me
next to this one dude who's single, best friends with
the groom and on paper, like I actually did ask
(07:46):
about this guy soon after I got divorced, and I
was like, oh, what's his deal? Because I always like
saw him whenever, like he's gathering, like he's always bringing
a new chick. And I was like, this guy, what's
you know? He's a year older than me or something
like that, and I was like, what's his deal? You know,
like did you have a commitment issues? Like what's happening.
First when I mentioned him, the response from my sister's
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husband wasn't like very responsive. So I was like, oh,
maybe it's not Maybe either they think I'm not good
for him or whatever. And now they kept like kind
of saying. So like my sister goes, you know, I
met my husband on Riyah, like, do you think you should?
And I was like, no, I don't think I should,
but you might convince me maybe later down the road,
who knows, never say never. But she's like, and I said,
(08:31):
but how about your the you know, your husband's friend
And she goes, yeah, yeah, I'm single.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Do you think you're ready?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I was like, if I meet somebody authentically like that,
it's different, right, Like it's different.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Than having to go on a dating app. I'm sorry,
but would that not be the cutest story ever? Like
it would until until we met at my sister.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Until something happened and it was such a turn up
and I don't want to say.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It, Cheryl, you have to tell me. I can't. I can't,
you can't. Err oh my god, Okay, you have to
tell me later then, but I will. But it was
nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It had everything to do with his actions. And all
I'm gonna say is that I'm sober.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, I can deduce right what happens at a wedding,
you know, is people tend to I don't know. I
don't know if this time is at a wedding. I
hope it doesn't, got it. Okay, something happened not at
the wedding that turns you off.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
No, it happened at the wedding, at the dinner, at
the speaking dinner reception. Okay, we'll talk about it later.
It's not my business to put it out there for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But it wasn't There wasn't a connection. No, there was
there was a connection until that happened. Okay, Well, let
me ask you this, Cheryl. First of all, I i've
already I just gave you a hint. I'm sober, I know,
And I was about to say, Cheryl, I commend you
on your sobriety. You know that, Thank you. And I
think that that is also for anybody that I know
(09:57):
in life that is sober and in a partnership. It
is something that I've had conversations about with people where
I say, even if you don't have a problem, or
your partner doesn't have a problem, but has chosen that style.
You need to choose that lifestyle as well as being
in a partnership with somebody.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm not saying that he should have been so like,
I'm not saying that, but there's levels.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was going to say, was this a moment of
indiscretion that we were at something or were you like, no,
this is probably a lifestyle difference. It's a lifestyle I asked, Yeah,
it's a lifestyle difference.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And if there were me ten years ago, it would
be a match one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, and listen, kudos to you for recognizing that right
up front, and who knows. It's a shame. But also
maybe things change later on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And then there's there's another dude. I'm not just it's
not just one.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, So talk about that. What happened? So all? Okay?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So on the during the rehearsal, like the actual rehearsal
at my parents' best friend's home where the wedding took place,
we were practicing these walkdowns and I was originally paired
with somebody and then I got switched and I was like,
oh rude, anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So cute, quiet, he was cute and quiet and yeah.
So I asked my sister.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Like, not obviously on her wedding day, but like, oh no.
She brought it up when I did her makeup on
her wedding day that morning, and she's like, what do
you think of so and so? And I was like, yeah, like,
I don't know. He seems really sweet. I don't freaking know.
We literally were just walking elbow to elbow two seconds.
I thought I was going a face plant. He saved
my life and that was it. And she and I said,
(11:50):
but doesn't he have a girl? I thought I saw
him with a girl. She goes, yeah, but they've been
fighting supposedly, you know, like Nicole.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Just because they're fighting on that day, I'm not going
to be the first of all.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm no, I am not somebody's rebound, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But that's so funny. That's bringing up a memory of
a wedding I went to as well, where somebody was
like they're on the outs, blah blah blah, like somebody's
still having one argument. And it was no, it was
like people went like in on an argument at the
wedding and they were like, yeah, they're on the outs,
and so Anyways, what I'm hearing and what I'm liking
about this catchup Cheryl, is that I'm open. There's a
(12:31):
traction sparking for you too. Yeah I'm not blind, yeah,
but like literally, Cheryl, I think six months ago when
we were talking, you would be like hard pass like,
no way, my eyes are down.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I am not yet when you're talking dating apps or
anybody in this business.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yes, sure, but I don't think i've heard you express
like even when I was like, what about a guy
at the grocery store, You're like, I get my groceries delivered.
It's true. I would say the same damn thing today
is very true. But look, you went to a wedding.
I had to go to a wedding, but there were
two attractive men your orbit. So I think that this
(13:10):
is a good sign. I think it's a good sign.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But that's what I mean, just so you know, just
so we are clear, this is what I mean by
meeting somebody naturally like that, right, Like, I don't go
to weddings.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I'm not a makeup artist, nor do I ever. That
was so traumatizing. I will never do it again. But
I that's how you meet people.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, no, no, no, I agree, I agree. I want
to know. Like I said, we're halfway through the year
at this moment, I want to know what kind of
guy you are open to attracting into your life. I'm
(13:52):
not gonna say the term looking for because we're not
looking for anybody, but no, kind of man are you
interested in attracting to you at this time? What kind
of talk you about? Like material, no qualities, physical and
personality wise? What are you looking for? What is what's
(14:12):
getting your head to turn?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You know how they say that you're attracted to your
father or your dad.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
No, I don't believe in that sentiment.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
No, I definitely, especially if you've been abandoned by your father.
And yeah, no, I believe in it. Like I tell you,
every man I've dated seriously has been has especially my
ex husband.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Identified my father.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, But like I was saying my therapist, she's like,
can we start attracting taller men?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But it's so funny because the guy that.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I actually liked to had the girlfriend was also a
surety shalloy listen?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Short kings need the love to.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, just put a couple platform heels in there and
look good.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I like that you're do you, but also listen attract.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That is just I'm not talking deep clearly right now.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
That is just straight up the distractions attraction, you know
what I mean? For me, I might like make some
people upset hearing this. In the ide part two world,
I'm not really attracted to bold men. That's my thing, okay,
And I don't think that that is I don't just
(15:26):
I don't want to say discriminate against bald men, but
I don't. It's not what turns my head.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Sorry, But what if you're stuck in a line during
a wedding and you're doing you know, I have to
tell you like I did lately, and I'm very proud
of myself for this. It's not about oh, what do
you look like? Then I'll talk to you. It's more like,
let me like we're just naturally talking as to people
who are being sat next to each other, do right then,
and then like, oh, this is what you physically look like,
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you know, because it's like that's when I'm then if
the conversation is interesting enough, then that's when I'll take
it up.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Look right, yeah, I mean listen, yeah, you can be
as a track.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
What I'm just saying, what if a baldy and you
had such a deep conversation. I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Sure, I mean, I look, there's always a Jason stathum right.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Joy Lawrence doesn't your pickle, not not personally, but I
just today, but in the nineties maybe yeah, but he
wasn't bald then, correct, I know now he's bald, said,
but maybe he would have taken off your pickle.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
There's always a Jason Statham who like, is really rocking
the bald look right, and like that's a thing and
that's hot that. Of course, there's exceptions to rules. It's
always about kindness first.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So you don't like you don't like the bald that
is being forced to be bald.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't like receding hairline. I don't like you're real picky.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Listen, so am I I love a girl that knows
what you want personally.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't think that's picky. I think that you know,
I think I think you talk to a man any
day of the week and he's going to give you
a laundry list of what turns his net for a woman.
So me being able to name one thing that I'm
not interested in, I really don't ari I do part two. People,
if that like is offensive, I'm sure anybody that is
(17:15):
dating somebody that is bald, it's like, that's great for you.
It's just personally not what.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, totally now never say never again. If your conversation
is so sexy that all of a sudden you look
up and or you did love is blind and he
was bald?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Who knows? Or I'm fifty five and I'm still single
and they're all bald. You know what I mean? Like,
who's wrong with fifty five and single? I'm just adding years.
I want to know what your.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
This is a dual conversation. Okay, yeah, because one hundred
percent you're not interviewing me. This is not what we
agree with. I am, we're catching up.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm not in the market. What why are you taken? No,
your girl is way too damaged right now to be
getting in. That doesn't mean we can't have the conversation. Sure,
I mean, listen for me. In my local area, I've
said this so many times. I lived by a Whole
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Foods that gets a lot of traction. You don't instacart.
I do my instacart and it's by the beach. And
the first time I went in there. I was shocked
at how many men I saw at the grocery store.
I don't think I've ever seen that many men before
(18:34):
at one grocery store. Single young men, I don't know
it's single, but that amount of men at the grocery store, Oh,
I've never seen it before. And it's every time I
go there, every time. Who I should go to your
grocery store if I ever go. But I'm just saying, like,
I know that there's guys out there. It's right now,
(18:55):
like I'm coming across so many right when I'm out
in the world. Nothing is resonating with me right now.
Are they flirting with you? No? No, No, I'm not
talking to anybody, are they? No? No, Literally, the light
bulb is off, like my tax serial.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Light is off, and it is like, do not come
near me?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, I listen, do I I don't think I'm giving
like RBF like everywhere I'm walking. But it's just I
know that I'm not putting out the signal that I'm interested.
But you that is true.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
No, No, that is very but that is very true.
By the way, we're all energy. So yeah, I was
on that trains.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I can tell right now in our conversation that you're
putting out the signal, you're putting out the energy right now.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yep, yeah, I mean if it happens, it happens. Now,
this is what I don't want. Are we ready tell.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Me what you do want? I want to be positive?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No yeah, no, no, no, because I don't know necessarily I
can tell you what I don't want. I don't think
I can tell you what I want to.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Okay, get it sure like.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think it's a mix. Now, this is what I
don't want because I I am. I don't want anybody
with the track record of cheating.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I don't know if I want somebody in the entertainment industry.
I'm leaning towards now.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Okay, I'm gonna say no one's asking im. Okay, I'm
gonna say, as somebody that knows you that I think
that you don't need another entertainer. Yeah, I think you
still need somebody star. I don't need that that's still entertainment.
I think that you need someone entertainment adjacent. I could
(20:37):
see you being with a talent agent or a talent.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Maybe yes, yes, yes, or an an entertainment attorney. Yes,
even better that was my first and last date.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Remember oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying like
that to me. Is it creates commonality in a yes,
I agree, But all so, I do believe the sentiment
a lot of times when you hear people say there
can only be like one star in the relationship, and
I really do think that. I do believe that you
(21:10):
are the star when you're in a relationship with somebody.
That's that is so true. Well, actually I wouldn't. I
wouldn't help. Stars can change and have different times. But you,
right now in this chapter of your life, you are
the star. And you if you were to get into
a partnership with somebody tomorrow, they would need to be
(21:31):
supportive of that star right now in this chapter.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah yeah, because like it's exhausting, if it's competitive.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You can't be in competition with your partner for the spotlight.
That will never work. That's why they say opposites attract
in that sense. And this is why I gravitated towards
the quiet guy at the wedding. I fully get that,
CHERYLD And I will tell you why I have never
been attracted to the alpha male. I have. It's so weird,
but never dated one always told people I am attracted
(22:02):
to quiet confidence, and I tend to like a more
subdued energy because I've dated the shot shots guy and
the everybody party guy, and it's like, I don't like
that guy. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So funny that you say that, because I actually, initially
I think I'm attracted to them. I never end up
with them. One but two, I have only started recently
appreciating the quiet The only confidence. By the way, there's
only one way, and it's the quiet one. There really is,
because the loud confidence is not so I could fight
anybody about it.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
That's not confidence to me. I hear that. I agree
with that. For me, I'm I'm really mellow in real life,
you know, outside of work, I do not like to
be in the mix, and so like a quiet energy
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is more what I tend to gravit towards too. Now,
the problem with a quiet energy is they don't always
make those first moves right, especially in the dating scene.
It can be really hard sometimes for them to make
the move. And personally, I've had to in anything that
I've been in that's been substantial, I've made those first moves.
(23:24):
And what's wrong with that? Well, now, in my reflective
chapter that I'm in at this time, I'm wondering if
I've ever been hoarded, and I don't think I have. Interesting.
It's really difficult because so.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's not you mean on a deeper level like then
not necessarily a physical like I guess reported meaning like
making plans going out, like to dinner, him paying for it,
him opening your door.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
No, that's happened. I'm talking about initial first moves. I'm
now in the play Cheryl in my head where I'm
looking back at everything in the rear view, and I'm thinking,
did that person actually ever want to be with me?
They never initiated the early stages of the relationship I did.
(24:10):
Did I interesting? Somebody that was like open to it
but like not really in it? It changes for you, Cheryl.
Every day for me is a new trauma. But I
are you in therapy? Yes, yes, Cheryl, yes, yes, yes,
But I want to know. Okay, so we know that
(24:32):
you don't want an entertainer. We know that you No,
I never said that. I didn't say I don't want.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I said I don't think I want, meaning like I
keep going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Now again, if he is in.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
My zeitgeist, and we do have great communication and we
have great conversations and there's an attraction. I'm not going
to be like, oh sorry, yeah, I can't do it,
you know, Like I'm just saying from what I did
it again, this is all on the surface stuff like
look at the end end of the day, I mean,
this is why for me to is like be like
(25:05):
a tall dark browd hair like it's just so miniscule
as to what I really I really want to partner.
I want somebody who balances We can balance each other out,
but we still say as two individuals that is so
important to me and that someone I need somebody that
can also put me in my place sometimes because I
can get you know, a little like whoa over bearing
(25:28):
sometimes but not in a rude way, in a way
where it's quiet, it's it's secure. It doesn't make me
feel abandoned. It makes me feel like, first of all,
nobody can make me feel anything, right.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Continue doing the work. But like he needs to be
so like stable and confident that in a way where
it complements the work that I'm going to continue to
do for the rest of my life. And that's all
I can say because it's so deep, it goes deeper,
what about.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Like financial stability at this stame, But that's all again
that is just seeing on yes, yes, yes, all of it.
I think that to me, Cheryl as somebody who you've done.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
So, but that's not what's gonna be like my very
first conversation with the person, right like, either we're gonna talk,
We're either gonna connect or we're not like whoever it is.
And this is what I've also realized, no setting updates
like I can't. This is what makes me not act
authentic and what I know for sure makes the other
person sing weird like for sure. And it's like if
(26:28):
we meet in a group setting, like and this is
why this wedding thing happened so great, like it was
I mean in my head, but it was just like
no pressure, there's no freaking pressure. We were there doing
the same activities, but we were just there supporting the
people we love, right like, and yeah, there wasn't the
weird Let's go to pot Jay and I'm gonna end
(26:48):
up not knowing what to order and then I'm gonna
order what you have, Like there's none of that.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
It's just being weird. That's weird. Yeah, no, no, no,
you kind of got my wheels turning though. Now, Cheryl,
I want to know, out of curiosity, do you ever,
like played pickleball or my mom does? Your mom does? Okay,
she's not single. Have you ever outside of dance? Have
you ever done like anything kind of athletic or sports
(27:16):
like outside of dance?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You realize that I was like the MVP of my
basketball team? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Oh wait what No? I did not know this, but
I'm just very act.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
My mom put me everything girl, like I went to
tennis Stanford Tennis camp every freaking summer, like it was
I was going to be a professional tennis player.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Cheryl, So you can play tennis, which means I know
what pickleball is. I know. I want to know, though.
What I think is kind of cute about pickleball is
it falls you know, say, I got competitive, We're trying
to win. Okay, I love that. But what I think,
as a non athlete, which is kind of cute about
pickleball is it falls into that tennis category of like
(27:59):
the theme outfit attire, like that whole part of it.
You don't care and somebody who likes to make up
and wears cute outfits and does cute videos. That is
not something you like, I will I do I do now?
But back then I was like, I'm gonna be Serena Williams. No,
we're talking now. We're talking about the present day if
you were to come. Okay, So here, I'm gonna just
(28:21):
I'm just gonna rip the back.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Okay, Okay, this is is this the big reveal, This
is the big reut to commercial.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
We're cutting to commercial first. So we're doing a really
fun Pickaball event in Tahoe next month, and honest, I
(28:49):
Do Part two is gonna be there. So we thought, Okay,
Cheryl's gonna be there. Who else from some of the
you know, other fun kind of podcast that we do
are going to be there? And then I had this
really great idea because we had this really amazing guy
on I Do Part two a couple of weeks ago,
(29:12):
and I'm I'm going to just say there are some
like cute, like little similarities that I'm noticing. First of all,
first and foremost, how solicy I actually don't know that
over my head, but I will tell you this, if
you're where to goes what I really like about him
and the possibility of you two getting.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Along, like becoming friends.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I said getting along. I didn't say anything else, like,
well friends. First, he talked about doing the work, and
I know that that's important to you and has been.
Your journey is about being open talking about doing the work.
So that to me. So he is divorced, and it's
(29:58):
he does have two kids. Hold on, I'm gonna text
you his Instagram.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Don't worry, I already did it. You're following, by the way, ps,
we're following each other.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I love it. You're stupid, surprised you and your surprise.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Maybe I should have gone with it because I couldn't
anymore because I was like, this is the wait, don't
we're following each other already?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Wait? I love this so obviously, Listeners, we are talking
about JP Rosenbaum, who was recently on the podcast. If
you didn't listen to that episode, definitely go back and
get a therapy session about him. Okay, but what I
like about him, Cheryl and the possibility of there being
a nice, you know, commonality between you two is one
(30:43):
about how much growth he talked about on the pod
about after his divorce and what that's been like for
him personally but also in his co parenting relationship. I
thought was really really cool. And then second of all,
I don't know you. I don't know if you saw
he's making headlines in this last week with his ex
(31:03):
wife Ashley, because they just went on a really amazing
family vacation with my kids and it was just the
two of them, it looked like with their kids, and
they were like posting and sharing about it, and it
was just like really cool to see two parents that.
I mean, you and I are both products of like
(31:25):
you know, divorce and stuff like, and we know what
that can be like growing up as kids. But we
went on family vacations, though you did. I did not know.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well, we went to go visit my father at a
strip clubs vacation, So I don't know how much that
would be considered as a vacation.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Family friendly or like a vacation does not Disneyland. I
don't have those kinds of memories with my parents, and
I think that that's something that's really respectable. Yes, And
I think it's also a really good testament of being
able to check the ego right, because that's a huge
part is like he talked about how his ex wife
(32:02):
is already in a relationship, and at first that shit,
oh she's been yeah, because they've been divorced for like
over four years now. Oh wow, yeah, so it's been
a minute. He also said some really nice and respectable
things about his wife, you know, new partner, and because
that person is around his kids and stuff like that,
you know, he's really really even keeled. So I really
(32:25):
like that first and foremost even keed. How do you know,
just because I think a man that is able to
openly talk about that experience and have humility and grace
when talking about their ex I think speaks volumes. That's
what I mean. It didn't sound contentious, it didn't sound angry,
it didn't sound dismissive. It sounded really nice, mature and yes,
(32:48):
and like somebody like he said that don't work, you know,
so yes, great.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, and the fact that he has kids obviously is
very it's good that that happens. You don't want people,
you know, I've been witness to people catching each other
when kids are around, and it's not necessarily the best environment.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So you guys are following each other.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well, yeah, because we've had this discussion. Hey, hey, I
do Part two. Folks, this is no surprise. I can't
be surprised, as you know that. But anyway, since you
mentioned his name, and since I got that lovely group text,
of course, don't you know who you're talking to? I
might as well be a private investigator.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean, I love that. But like when we look
at his Instagram, like, what do we haven't looked at
it yet. I just started.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I just pressed the follow button. Okay, it doesn't mean
I'm scrolling.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Can you look at it right now while you're on
here with me. I can't really focus. I'm so bad
at this. Okay, fine, as long as I can. I
just want to know what your overall gland. What do
you want me to look at? Specifically? Just look at
his page and like what do you oh, you mean
the aesthetic I can't do it aesthetic because his aesthetic is.
I love that he's Jewish. I'm Jewish, you know that, right?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I don't know I'm fifty four percent or no, sorry,
fifty three percent Osazi. Didn't know that My father lied
to me this whole time. Okay, rest in peace, my
Jewish father.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Do you love the fact that he's like, look, he's
on a boat like he lives in Miami.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, so well, no, if there's a connection in the woman,
I shake this mean's hand. Okay, this is just all here,
This is all great, book great. You know, I don't
want someone to judge me off my happy Instagram either,
Like this is not the real me what you see
on my Instagram.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Okay, my god, he looks like my dad.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
He looks like my dad. He just looks like my
father a little bit. He looks a little bit like
my dad. I don't know what to say other than
I clearly still have daddy issues. Jesus, Jesus, Yeah, he
looks like my father. He really does look like my dad. Here,
I'm not joking, not even a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Sure, I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Okay, that doesn't mean I mean that means if anything, Oh,
I got a chance. I can't do that whole Instagram thing.
It really is just so it's like small talk. It's nasty.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Let me say this clearly, by looking at the instagram.
Right with the instagram, we know that he's a dad.
We know that he's a dad Jewish and looks like
my daddy. And so right off, right off the rit
from that, have you ever dated a single dad? Is
that something that you know? Have you ever dreamed of
(35:28):
or thought of yourself being a stepmom?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
By the way, kids, well, I love that he has kids.
Like that has nothing to do with anything. I mean, honestly,
it's yeah, no, I don't. I always said that it
would be great to have somebody who has already had
the kids, because then I won't have the pressure of
trying to have one or whatever it is. You know.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, Okay, cool, So it's not a turn off. I
like that. Nothing has been a turnoff yet. Cool. I
like that.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's like, how optimistic I am.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
So what I'm what We're ski.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
No, we're not doing anything. You're just don't live and
get back down to earth. Okay, this is just two
people that are single that you think would be a
good match.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
That doesn't mean it is. We're having this fun pickleball
event in tom and there's going to be a lot
of other people there.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
A lot of other people. Like was this guy at
the bat I don't watch The Bachelor?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Was he a bachelor? So he won the bachelorette so
he wasn't the Bachelor? No, so he went on it.
Ashley season.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
He it he.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Married her, and the season was that, Oh my gosh,
like five or something wow, like years ago, like twenty eleven,
twenty twelve, oh or even before that. It's like, what
does he do now? So he's a real estate developer
in Miami.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Interesting stick in he lives in Miami.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, so he didn't. He didn't stick into the reality
TV world. I like that.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I like it he was a one and done kind
of guy. I also love that he lives on the
opposite side of Also, I kind of like that he's
like in a beach and it's like, you know, I'm
not getting ahead of myself, but I'm just no, I'm
just saying that I think you should come to Tahoe.
(37:22):
You should come to this pickleball event. Yes, I will
if I'm available. Yes, And it's just a group thing.
And I also, now that you've told me you are
basically a tennis star, I feel like you need to.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
We're not announcing this, We're not gonna do you understand.
I was in seventh grade, like, don't you dare.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
No, I'm just saying I feel like it's time to
wear a cute outfit. It's summertime and you're gonna show
me what's up times. I don't play tennis, I don't
play pickleball. But anyways, it's got to shave it from Zara.
It's in, it's in, it arrived. We've got to open
the box. I'll leave you. I'll leave you with this.
If anything that I feel like you and I have
(38:02):
kind of learned in this last year is maybe to
be a little bit more like our friend Kelly ben Simone.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I love Kelly and just have fun, you know, hold on,
I just need to ask, well, I mean, i'll ask her,
but what what's the status of her and her dating life?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I think she's just you know, having fun. A lot
of these guys and she'll say this too, a lot
of these guys have either dated somebody that she knows
or you know, somebody that she was on TV with.
And it's like, I understand, the pool gets really small
when you get to be a certain age. That's another thing.
(38:41):
But you know, she's gorgeous and she doesn't need to
just be dating guys in New York. She could broaden
the scope and like not be dating people that dated
her co stars. And does she know that though maybe
it's all in her. You know. Maybe you can tell
her that when you guys talk, well I do, I
do tell her. Yeah, I just think I'll leave you
(39:01):
with that. Let's just maybe take a place, you know,
out of Kelly ben Simone's book and just yes fun
and go to this pickleball event. So I just love
catching up with you today, Cheryl. This was so fun.
I loved hearing just about that things are getting your
attention now because I just think, like six months ago,
(39:21):
you weren't talking like this. So I just like, I
like this conversation today. Well, thank you, and you know
what did.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh for sure going to take a play out of
fellow mentor Kelly ben Simon's playbook and just see what
happens because you never know. And of course we're going
to keep you guys posted on the pickleball events. My
mom is going to be so proud.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
So if you're ready to date again, maybe you are,
maybe you're not, and you're just not exactly sure where
to start, like myself, call us or email us. We're
here to guide you. All the info is in the
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podcast where falling in love is the main objective.
Welcome back to I Do Part two.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's one of your celebrity mentors here on the pod,
Cheryl Burke, and today my producer, Heather wanted me to
pop on the mic because she said she had some
fun news to tell me.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, I hate surprises, Heather. I'm literally look all yours God.
Hi's Cheryl. How's it going good. It's been a while,
I know, I know, since we had our really really
sad Valentine's Day episode.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Was that the last time that we did this together.
I mean I talked to you after that, not.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Me croock since then, but that's the last time the
audience heard from as we were doing a really sad episode.
I think that a lot of people ended up listening
to a lot of single people. Yeah, I know that
we weren't alone. We weren't alone, and we're not alone.
But I wanted to kind of catch up with you
a little bit before we kind of dive into that
(01:07):
you know, little fun surprise that I said I wanted
to talk to you about, but I wanted to kind
of hear from you, and I know our listeners do too,
about like what you've been up to lately. How have
you been feeling Obviously, you've been getting a lot of
press and like you know, been talking to the press
a lot about what's been going on in terms of
(01:28):
online stuff that you've been receiving. But I kind of
wanted to know overall, like how is Cheryl doing?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Did you also hear in the press that they asked
me the big d question about dating? And I was like, no,
we're not there yet.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Well we're going to dive into all of that, of course,
but tell me that right now, on this day, how
is Cheryl doing?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Cheryl is a little like I'm just like, I feel
like I'm being pulled a million different directions. I'm also
working on another which we haven't announced yet, but I'm
working on another show and we're busy pitching that. But
it's a whole di re vibe. Like I told you before,
we press record here. So but it what I've noticed,
the pattern has been me having to grieve whatever or
(02:12):
however that may be my past. It is shoved in
my face and I have to deal with it because
I have no choice, right like, in order for me
to move on. And a lot of what I just
mentioned that I was doing has a lot to do
with that, and I think will help me when it
comes to my personal life as well.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, I kind of just wanted to talk to you
about that because obviously it's the summer, right, summertime is
a lock Girls summer, how Girl summer, but also wedding season, right.
I know that you were just a part of your
sister's wedding, and so I kind of wanted to know
what that was like for you, as somebody you've talked
(02:54):
about on this podcast that you've went through and you
had the big wedding yourself, and the big wedding became
an event for you and all of that. Now being
on the other side of things and being a guest
at a wedding and it's your sibling, what was that
experience like for you? Did you have a date or
were you solo? Kind of tell me a little bit
about that. Yeah, I had a few dates.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I'm kidding, that doesn't even sound right couping out of
my mouth, but okay, so a lot of things happened. One,
I was a makeup artist, so I didn't have time
to even do my own makeup, let alone. You know,
I had focus on my sister, like I was her
makeup artist for that weekend, I would say, because it
was rehearsal, dinner and wedding I didn't have I was
so I brought all of Sephora with me, and I
(03:38):
filled my car up to the roof. Literally was like
a mobile beauty department store. That was my actual car
right driving from wherever I lived to the Bay Area
checked in. Took me two days to unpack, literally, just
my OCD was in full effect.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So other than that and me thinking.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I had appendicitis the morning of her wedding, thinking I
had to go straight to the er, it was all smooth.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It great. Be real with me for a second, though,
because I went through both of my sisters getting married.
We've already talked about this that I've never been married
or engaged, and uh, you know one of those was
a little tougher for me than the other. Really. Yeah,
seeing my younger sister get married and ourt a family,
and you know, my other sister been married, and you know,
(04:28):
the kind of comments that I got at that wedding,
Oh interesting, when is it going to be your turn?
Always a bridesmaid, never a bride, Like these kinds of
comments were to you, And so I kind of just
want to know like even though you were totally in
it and being an active supportive member of your sister's
you know, thing like being there for the makeup. Was
(04:50):
there ever any moments, either the drive up or sitting
there were you where it was emotional for you in
a different way?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I think it was it's you are a personal thing
with my sister and I and our We've gone through
a lot with each other, and what was interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So so to answer.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Your question if you're trying to ask about like did
it bring up my ex husband or like that time together, No,
actually not at all. I was really choosing to be present.
I put my phone away. It was so emotional for
the both of us because yes, we do have an
age gap. I didn't get any you know, crazy Filipinos
(05:30):
for my family come up to me and be like,
you know.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
How are you feeling? Like none of that happened?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
What was I think the emotional side was just my sister,
Like I think of my little sister as my daughter,
you know, And I don't want to talk more about
it than what I am talking about, but like you know,
there's just been very emotional between us. It's been a
rollercoaster and you know, like anybody's relationship. We evolve and
(05:57):
some people do it together and some people don't like
when I tell you we were so close, like we
would go on like extravagant, luxurious vacations when we were
both single in the past, and and then you know,
we all meet our other halves and stuff happened, and
so like, it was just beautiful to be able to
be present. And my sister has said something when I
(06:18):
was doing her and my sister was so emotional, like
literally it was just like and as she should be, right,
it was her day, but it was a different type
of emotion that I never actually felt. And since we
were both single in France together popping around, you know,
so it's like more of a family internal thing than
it was, you know, so sad that I'm not married
(06:40):
still type thing.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean, was there any anxiety? I mean, I know
I felt this before, having to go to a wedding alone,
you know, having just been a table with people alone,
having to hit the dance floor with people that you
maybe don't know that wasn't the experience. You didn't have,
no anxiety about being by yourself. No, actually love it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Now for my cousin's wedding, the first wedding I went
to after like it was my first wedding that I
attended since my wedding. Yes, definitely my sister. No, I
knew everybody, you know, it was all of our friends
and family, but I there were a couple of cute
guys and there was this one single dude. Okay, there
was this one single guy. When did you get there?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Excuse what happened? Taking me through the timeline.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So once I was done with my makeup artist duties,
I was able to actually look up for my makeup
brushes and I see other humans and so funny because strategically,
I'm pretty sure my sister and her husband put me
next to this one dude who's single, best friends with
the groom and on paper, like I actually did ask
(07:46):
about this guy soon after I got divorced, and I
was like, oh, what's his deal? Because I always like
saw him whenever, like he's gathering, like he's always bringing
a new chick. And I was like, this guy, what's
you know? He's a year older than me or something
like that, and I was like, what's his deal? You know,
like did you have a commitment issues? Like what's happening.
First when I mentioned him, the response from my sister's
(08:08):
husband wasn't like very responsive. So I was like, oh,
maybe it's not Maybe either they think I'm not good
for him or whatever. And now they kept like kind
of saying. So like my sister goes, you know, I
met my husband on Riyah, like, do you think you should?
And I was like, no, I don't think I should,
but you might convince me maybe later down the road,
who knows, never say never. But she's like, and I said,
(08:31):
but how about your the you know, your husband's friend
And she goes, yeah, yeah, I'm single.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Do you think you're ready?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I was like, if I meet somebody authentically like that,
it's different, right, Like it's different.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Than having to go on a dating app. I'm sorry,
but would that not be the cutest story ever? Like
it would until until we met at my sister.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Until something happened and it was such a turn up
and I don't want to say.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It, Cheryl, you have to tell me. I can't. I can't,
you can't. Err oh my god, Okay, you have to
tell me later then, but I will. But it was
nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It had everything to do with his actions. And all
I'm gonna say is that I'm sober.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well, I can deduce right what happens at a wedding,
you know, is people tend to I don't know. I
don't know if this time is at a wedding. I
hope it doesn't, got it. Okay, something happened not at
the wedding that turns you off.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
No, it happened at the wedding, at the dinner, at
the speaking dinner reception. Okay, we'll talk about it later.
It's not my business to put it out there for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
But it wasn't There wasn't a connection. No, there was
there was a connection until that happened. Okay, Well, let
me ask you this, Cheryl. First of all, I i've
already I just gave you a hint. I'm sober, I know,
And I was about to say, Cheryl, I commend you
on your sobriety. You know that, Thank you. And I
think that that is also for anybody that I know
(09:57):
in life that is sober and in a partnership. It
is something that I've had conversations about with people where
I say, even if you don't have a problem, or
your partner doesn't have a problem, but has chosen that style.
You need to choose that lifestyle as well as being
in a partnership with somebody.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm not saying that he should have been so like,
I'm not saying that, but there's levels.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I was going to say, was this a moment of
indiscretion that we were at something or were you like, no,
this is probably a lifestyle difference. It's a lifestyle I asked, Yeah,
it's a lifestyle difference.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And if there were me ten years ago, it would
be a match one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, and listen, kudos to you for recognizing that right
up front, and who knows. It's a shame. But also
maybe things change later on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And then there's there's another dude. I'm not just it's
not just one.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, So talk about that. What happened? So all? Okay?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So on the during the rehearsal, like the actual rehearsal
at my parents' best friend's home where the wedding took place,
we were practicing these walkdowns and I was originally paired
with somebody and then I got switched and I was like,
oh rude, anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So cute, quiet, he was cute and quiet and yeah.
So I asked my sister.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Like, not obviously on her wedding day, but like, oh no.
She brought it up when I did her makeup on
her wedding day that morning, and she's like, what do
you think of so and so? And I was like, yeah, like,
I don't know. He seems really sweet. I don't freaking know.
We literally were just walking elbow to elbow two seconds.
I thought I was going a face plant. He saved
my life and that was it. And she and I said,
(11:50):
but doesn't he have a girl? I thought I saw
him with a girl. She goes, yeah, but they've been
fighting supposedly, you know, like Nicole.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Just because they're fighting on that day, I'm not going
to be the first of all.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm no, I am not somebody's rebound, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
But that's so funny. That's bringing up a memory of
a wedding I went to as well, where somebody was
like they're on the outs, blah blah blah, like somebody's
still having one argument. And it was no, it was
like people went like in on an argument at the
wedding and they were like, yeah, they're on the outs,
and so Anyways, what I'm hearing and what I'm liking
about this catchup Cheryl, is that I'm open. There's a
(12:31):
traction sparking for you too. Yeah I'm not blind, yeah,
but like literally, Cheryl, I think six months ago when
we were talking, you would be like hard pass like,
no way, my eyes are down.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I am not yet when you're talking dating apps or
anybody in this business.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yes, sure, but I don't think i've heard you express
like even when I was like, what about a guy
at the grocery store, You're like, I get my groceries delivered.
It's true. I would say the same damn thing today
is very true. But look, you went to a wedding.
I had to go to a wedding, but there were
two attractive men your orbit. So I think that this
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is a good sign. I think it's a good sign.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
But that's what I mean, just so you know, just
so we are clear, this is what I mean by
meeting somebody naturally like that, right, Like, I don't go
to weddings.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I'm not a makeup artist, nor do I ever. That
was so traumatizing. I will never do it again. But
I that's how you meet people.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, no, no, no, I agree, I agree. I want
to know. Like I said, we're halfway through the year
at this moment, I want to know what kind of
guy you are open to attracting into your life. I'm
(13:52):
not gonna say the term looking for because we're not
looking for anybody, but no, kind of man are you
interested in attracting to you at this time? What kind
of talk you about? Like material, no qualities, physical and
personality wise? What are you looking for? What is what's
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getting your head to turn?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You know how they say that you're attracted to your
father or your dad.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
No, I don't believe in that sentiment.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
No, I definitely, especially if you've been abandoned by your father.
And yeah, no, I believe in it. Like I tell you,
every man I've dated seriously has been has especially my
ex husband.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Identified my father.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Okay, But like I was saying my therapist, she's like,
can we start attracting taller men?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But it's so funny because the guy that.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I actually liked to had the girlfriend was also a
surety shalloy listen?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Short kings need the love to.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, just put a couple platform heels in there and
look good.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I like that you're do you, but also listen attract.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That is just I'm not talking deep clearly right now.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
That is just straight up the distractions attraction, you know
what I mean? For me, I might like make some
people upset hearing this. In the ide part two world,
I'm not really attracted to bold men. That's my thing, okay,
And I don't think that that is I don't just
(15:26):
I don't want to say discriminate against bald men, but
I don't. It's not what turns my head.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Sorry, But what if you're stuck in a line during
a wedding and you're doing you know, I have to
tell you like I did lately, and I'm very proud
of myself for this. It's not about oh, what do
you look like? Then I'll talk to you. It's more like,
let me like we're just naturally talking as to people
who are being sat next to each other, do right then,
and then like, oh, this is what you physically look like,
(15:54):
you know, because it's like that's when I'm then if
the conversation is interesting enough, then that's when I'll take
it up.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Look right, yeah, I mean listen, yeah, you can be
as a track.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
What I'm just saying, what if a baldy and you
had such a deep conversation. I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Sure, I mean, I look, there's always a Jason stathum right.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Joy Lawrence doesn't your pickle, not not personally, but I
just today, but in the nineties maybe yeah, but he
wasn't bald then, correct, I know now he's bald, said,
but maybe he would have taken off your pickle.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
There's always a Jason Statham who like, is really rocking
the bald look right, and like that's a thing and
that's hot that. Of course, there's exceptions to rules. It's
always about kindness first.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So you don't like you don't like the bald that
is being forced to be bald.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't like receding hairline. I don't like you're real picky.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Listen, so am I I love a girl that knows
what you want personally.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't think that's picky. I think that you know,
I think I think you talk to a man any
day of the week and he's going to give you
a laundry list of what turns his net for a woman.
So me being able to name one thing that I'm
not interested in, I really don't ari I do part two. People,
if that like is offensive, I'm sure anybody that is
(17:15):
dating somebody that is bald, it's like, that's great for you.
It's just personally not what.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, totally now never say never again. If your conversation
is so sexy that all of a sudden you look
up and or you did love is blind and he
was bald?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Who knows? Or I'm fifty five and I'm still single
and they're all bald. You know what I mean? Like,
who's wrong with fifty five and single? I'm just adding years.
I want to know what your.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
This is a dual conversation. Okay, yeah, because one hundred
percent you're not interviewing me. This is not what we
agree with. I am, we're catching up.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm not in the market. What why are you taken? No,
your girl is way too damaged right now to be
getting in. That doesn't mean we can't have the conversation. Sure,
I mean, listen for me. In my local area, I've
said this so many times. I lived by a Whole
(18:14):
Foods that gets a lot of traction. You don't instacart.
I do my instacart and it's by the beach. And
the first time I went in there. I was shocked
at how many men I saw at the grocery store.
I don't think I've ever seen that many men before
(18:34):
at one grocery store. Single young men, I don't know
it's single, but that amount of men at the grocery store, Oh,
I've never seen it before. And it's every time I
go there, every time. Who I should go to your
grocery store if I ever go. But I'm just saying, like,
I know that there's guys out there. It's right now,
(18:55):
like I'm coming across so many right when I'm out
in the world. Nothing is resonating with me right now.
Are they flirting with you? No? No, No, I'm not
talking to anybody, are they? No? No, Literally, the light
bulb is off, like my tax serial.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Light is off, and it is like, do not come
near me?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, I listen, do I I don't think I'm giving
like RBF like everywhere I'm walking. But it's just I
know that I'm not putting out the signal that I'm interested.
But you that is true.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
No, No, that is very but that is very true.
By the way, we're all energy. So yeah, I was
on that trains.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I can tell right now in our conversation that you're
putting out the signal, you're putting out the energy right now.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yep, yeah, I mean if it happens, it happens. Now,
this is what I don't want. Are we ready tell.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Me what you do want? I want to be positive?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No yeah, no, no, no, because I don't know necessarily I
can tell you what I don't want. I don't think
I can tell you what I want to.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Okay, get it sure like.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think it's a mix. Now, this is what I
don't want because I I am. I don't want anybody
with the track record of cheating.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I don't know if I want somebody in the entertainment industry.
I'm leaning towards now.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Okay, I'm gonna say no one's asking im. Okay, I'm
gonna say, as somebody that knows you that I think
that you don't need another entertainer. Yeah, I think you
still need somebody star. I don't need that that's still entertainment.
I think that you need someone entertainment adjacent. I could
(20:37):
see you being with a talent agent or a talent.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Maybe yes, yes, yes, or an an entertainment attorney. Yes,
even better that was my first and last date.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Remember oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying like
that to me. Is it creates commonality in a yes,
I agree, But all so, I do believe the sentiment
a lot of times when you hear people say there
can only be like one star in the relationship, and
I really do think that. I do believe that you
(21:10):
are the star when you're in a relationship with somebody.
That's that is so true. Well, actually I wouldn't. I
wouldn't help. Stars can change and have different times. But you,
right now in this chapter of your life, you are
the star. And you if you were to get into
a partnership with somebody tomorrow, they would need to be
(21:31):
supportive of that star right now in this chapter.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah yeah, because like it's exhausting, if it's competitive.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You can't be in competition with your partner for the spotlight.
That will never work. That's why they say opposites attract
in that sense. And this is why I gravitated towards
the quiet guy at the wedding. I fully get that,
CHERYLD And I will tell you why I have never
been attracted to the alpha male. I have. It's so weird,
but never dated one always told people I am attracted
(22:02):
to quiet confidence, and I tend to like a more
subdued energy because I've dated the shot shots guy and
the everybody party guy, and it's like, I don't like
that guy. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So funny that you say that, because I actually, initially
I think I'm attracted to them. I never end up
with them. One but two, I have only started recently
appreciating the quiet The only confidence. By the way, there's
only one way, and it's the quiet one. There really is,
because the loud confidence is not so I could fight
anybody about it.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
That's not confidence to me. I hear that. I agree
with that. For me, I'm I'm really mellow in real life,
you know, outside of work, I do not like to
be in the mix, and so like a quiet energy
(23:01):
is more what I tend to gravit towards too. Now,
the problem with a quiet energy is they don't always
make those first moves right, especially in the dating scene.
It can be really hard sometimes for them to make
the move. And personally, I've had to in anything that
I've been in that's been substantial, I've made those first moves.
(23:24):
And what's wrong with that? Well, now, in my reflective
chapter that I'm in at this time, I'm wondering if
I've ever been hoarded, and I don't think I have. Interesting.
It's really difficult because so.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's not you mean on a deeper level like then
not necessarily a physical like I guess reported meaning like
making plans going out, like to dinner, him paying for it,
him opening your door.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
No, that's happened. I'm talking about initial first moves. I'm
now in the play Cheryl in my head where I'm
looking back at everything in the rear view, and I'm thinking,
did that person actually ever want to be with me?
They never initiated the early stages of the relationship I did.
(24:10):
Did I interesting? Somebody that was like open to it
but like not really in it? It changes for you, Cheryl.
Every day for me is a new trauma. But I
are you in therapy? Yes, yes, Cheryl, yes, yes, yes,
But I want to know. Okay, so we know that
(24:32):
you don't want an entertainer. We know that you No,
I never said that. I didn't say I don't want.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I said I don't think I want, meaning like I
keep going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Now again, if he is in.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
My zeitgeist, and we do have great communication and we
have great conversations and there's an attraction. I'm not going
to be like, oh sorry, yeah, I can't do it,
you know, Like I'm just saying from what I did
it again, this is all on the surface stuff like
look at the end end of the day, I mean,
this is why for me to is like be like
(25:05):
a tall dark browd hair like it's just so miniscule
as to what I really I really want to partner.
I want somebody who balances We can balance each other out,
but we still say as two individuals that is so
important to me and that someone I need somebody that
can also put me in my place sometimes because I
can get you know, a little like whoa over bearing
(25:28):
sometimes but not in a rude way, in a way
where it's quiet, it's it's secure. It doesn't make me
feel abandoned. It makes me feel like, first of all,
nobody can make me feel anything, right.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Continue doing the work. But like he needs to be
so like stable and confident that in a way where
it complements the work that I'm going to continue to
do for the rest of my life. And that's all
I can say because it's so deep, it goes deeper,
what about.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Like financial stability at this stame, But that's all again
that is just seeing on yes, yes, yes, all of it.
I think that to me, Cheryl as somebody who you've done.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
So, but that's not what's gonna be like my very
first conversation with the person, right like, either we're gonna talk,
We're either gonna connect or we're not like whoever it is.
And this is what I've also realized, no setting updates
like I can't. This is what makes me not act
authentic and what I know for sure makes the other
person sing weird like for sure. And it's like if
(26:28):
we meet in a group setting, like and this is
why this wedding thing happened so great, like it was
I mean in my head, but it was just like
no pressure, there's no freaking pressure. We were there doing
the same activities, but we were just there supporting the
people we love, right like, and yeah, there wasn't the
weird Let's go to pot Jay and I'm gonna end
(26:48):
up not knowing what to order and then I'm gonna
order what you have, Like there's none of that.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
It's just being weird. That's weird. Yeah, no, no, no,
you kind of got my wheels turning though. Now, Cheryl,
I want to know, out of curiosity, do you ever,
like played pickleball or my mom does? Your mom does? Okay,
she's not single. Have you ever outside of dance? Have
you ever done like anything kind of athletic or sports
(27:16):
like outside of dance?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You realize that I was like the MVP of my
basketball team? Right?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Oh wait what No? I did not know this, but
I'm just very act.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
My mom put me everything girl, like I went to
tennis Stanford Tennis camp every freaking summer, like it was
I was going to be a professional tennis player.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Cheryl, So you can play tennis, which means I know
what pickleball is. I know. I want to know, though.
What I think is kind of cute about pickleball is
it falls you know, say, I got competitive, We're trying
to win. Okay, I love that. But what I think,
as a non athlete, which is kind of cute about
pickleball is it falls into that tennis category of like
(27:59):
the theme outfit attire, like that whole part of it.
You don't care and somebody who likes to make up
and wears cute outfits and does cute videos. That is
not something you like, I will I do I do now?
But back then I was like, I'm gonna be Serena Williams. No,
we're talking now. We're talking about the present day if
you were to come. Okay, So here, I'm gonna just
(28:21):
I'm just gonna rip the back.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Okay, Okay, this is is this the big reveal, This
is the big reut to commercial.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
We're cutting to commercial first. So we're doing a really
fun Pickaball event in Tahoe next month, and honest, I
(28:49):
Do Part two is gonna be there. So we thought, Okay,
Cheryl's gonna be there. Who else from some of the
you know, other fun kind of podcast that we do
are going to be there? And then I had this
really great idea because we had this really amazing guy
on I Do Part two a couple of weeks ago,
(29:12):
and I'm I'm going to just say there are some
like cute, like little similarities that I'm noticing. First of all,
first and foremost, how solicy I actually don't know that
over my head, but I will tell you this, if
you're where to goes what I really like about him
and the possibility of you two getting.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Along, like becoming friends.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I said getting along. I didn't say anything else, like,
well friends. First, he talked about doing the work, and
I know that that's important to you and has been.
Your journey is about being open talking about doing the work.
So that to me. So he is divorced, and it's
(29:58):
he does have two kids. Hold on, I'm gonna text
you his Instagram.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Don't worry, I already did it. You're following, by the way, ps,
we're following each other.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I love it. You're stupid, surprised you and your surprise.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Maybe I should have gone with it because I couldn't
anymore because I was like, this is the wait, don't
we're following each other already?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Wait? I love this so obviously, Listeners, we are talking
about JP Rosenbaum, who was recently on the podcast. If
you didn't listen to that episode, definitely go back and
get a therapy session about him. Okay, but what I
like about him, Cheryl and the possibility of there being
a nice, you know, commonality between you two is one
(30:43):
about how much growth he talked about on the pod
about after his divorce and what that's been like for
him personally but also in his co parenting relationship. I
thought was really really cool. And then second of all,
I don't know you. I don't know if you saw
he's making headlines in this last week with his ex
(31:03):
wife Ashley, because they just went on a really amazing
family vacation with my kids and it was just the
two of them, it looked like with their kids, and
they were like posting and sharing about it, and it
was just like really cool to see two parents that.
I mean, you and I are both products of like
(31:25):
you know, divorce and stuff like, and we know what
that can be like growing up as kids. But we
went on family vacations, though you did. I did not know.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well, we went to go visit my father at a
strip clubs vacation, So I don't know how much that
would be considered as a vacation.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Family friendly or like a vacation does not Disneyland. I
don't have those kinds of memories with my parents, and
I think that that's something that's really respectable. Yes, And
I think it's also a really good testament of being
able to check the ego right, because that's a huge
part is like he talked about how his ex wife
(32:02):
is already in a relationship, and at first that shit,
oh she's been yeah, because they've been divorced for like
over four years now. Oh wow, yeah, so it's been
a minute. He also said some really nice and respectable
things about his wife, you know, new partner, and because
that person is around his kids and stuff like that,
you know, he's really really even keeled. So I really
(32:25):
like that first and foremost even keed. How do you know,
just because I think a man that is able to
openly talk about that experience and have humility and grace
when talking about their ex I think speaks volumes. That's
what I mean. It didn't sound contentious, it didn't sound angry,
it didn't sound dismissive. It sounded really nice, mature and yes,
(32:48):
and like somebody like he said that don't work, you know,
so yes, great.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, and the fact that he has kids obviously is
very it's good that that happens. You don't want people,
you know, I've been witness to people catching each other
when kids are around, and it's not necessarily the best environment.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So you guys are following each other.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well, yeah, because we've had this discussion. Hey, hey, I
do Part two. Folks, this is no surprise. I can't
be surprised, as you know that. But anyway, since you
mentioned his name, and since I got that lovely group text,
of course, don't you know who you're talking to? I
might as well be a private investigator.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean, I love that. But like when we look
at his Instagram, like, what do we haven't looked at
it yet. I just started.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I just pressed the follow button. Okay, it doesn't mean
I'm scrolling.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Can you look at it right now while you're on
here with me. I can't really focus. I'm so bad
at this. Okay, fine, as long as I can. I
just want to know what your overall gland. What do
you want me to look at? Specifically? Just look at
his page and like what do you oh, you mean
the aesthetic I can't do it aesthetic because his aesthetic is.
I love that he's Jewish. I'm Jewish, you know that, right?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I don't know I'm fifty four percent or no, sorry,
fifty three percent Osazi. Didn't know that My father lied
to me this whole time. Okay, rest in peace, my
Jewish father.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Do you love the fact that he's like, look, he's
on a boat like he lives in Miami.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, so well, no, if there's a connection in the woman,
I shake this mean's hand. Okay, this is just all here,
This is all great, book great. You know, I don't
want someone to judge me off my happy Instagram either,
Like this is not the real me what you see
on my Instagram.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Okay, my god, he looks like my dad.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
He looks like my dad. He just looks like my
father a little bit. He looks a little bit like
my dad. I don't know what to say other than
I clearly still have daddy issues. Jesus, Jesus, Yeah, he
looks like my father. He really does look like my dad. Here,
I'm not joking, not even a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Sure, I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Okay, that doesn't mean I mean that means if anything, Oh,
I got a chance. I can't do that whole Instagram thing.
It really is just so it's like small talk. It's nasty.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Let me say this clearly, by looking at the instagram.
Right with the instagram, we know that he's a dad.
We know that he's a dad Jewish and looks like
my daddy. And so right off, right off the rit
from that, have you ever dated a single dad? Is
that something that you know? Have you ever dreamed of
(35:28):
or thought of yourself being a stepmom?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
By the way, kids, well, I love that he has kids.
Like that has nothing to do with anything. I mean, honestly,
it's yeah, no, I don't. I always said that it
would be great to have somebody who has already had
the kids, because then I won't have the pressure of
trying to have one or whatever it is. You know.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, Okay, cool, So it's not a turn off. I
like that. Nothing has been a turnoff yet. Cool. I
like that.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's like, how optimistic I am.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
So what I'm what We're ski.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
No, we're not doing anything. You're just don't live and
get back down to earth. Okay, this is just two
people that are single that you think would be a
good match.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
That doesn't mean it is. We're having this fun pickleball
event in tom and there's going to be a lot
of other people there.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
A lot of other people. Like was this guy at
the bat I don't watch The Bachelor?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Was he a bachelor? So he won the bachelorette so
he wasn't the Bachelor? No, so he went on it.
Ashley season.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
He it he.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Married her, and the season was that, Oh my gosh,
like five or something wow, like years ago, like twenty eleven,
twenty twelve, oh or even before that. It's like, what
does he do now? So he's a real estate developer
in Miami.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Interesting stick in he lives in Miami.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, so he didn't. He didn't stick into the reality
TV world. I like that.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I like it he was a one and done kind
of guy. I also love that he lives on the
opposite side of Also, I kind of like that he's
like in a beach and it's like, you know, I'm
not getting ahead of myself, but I'm just no, I'm
just saying that I think you should come to Tahoe.
(37:22):
You should come to this pickleball event. Yes, I will
if I'm available. Yes, And it's just a group thing.
And I also, now that you've told me you are
basically a tennis star, I feel like you need to.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
We're not announcing this, We're not gonna do you understand.
I was in seventh grade, like, don't you dare.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
No, I'm just saying I feel like it's time to
wear a cute outfit. It's summertime and you're gonna show
me what's up times. I don't play tennis, I don't
play pickleball. But anyways, it's got to shave it from Zara.
It's in, it's in, it arrived. We've got to open
the box. I'll leave you. I'll leave you with this.
If anything that I feel like you and I have
(38:02):
kind of learned in this last year is maybe to
be a little bit more like our friend Kelly ben Simone.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I love Kelly and just have fun, you know, hold on,
I just need to ask, well, I mean, i'll ask her,
but what what's the status of her and her dating life?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I think she's just you know, having fun. A lot
of these guys and she'll say this too, a lot
of these guys have either dated somebody that she knows
or you know, somebody that she was on TV with.
And it's like, I understand, the pool gets really small
when you get to be a certain age. That's another thing.
(38:41):
But you know, she's gorgeous and she doesn't need to
just be dating guys in New York. She could broaden
the scope and like not be dating people that dated
her co stars. And does she know that though maybe
it's all in her. You know. Maybe you can tell
her that when you guys talk, well I do, I
do tell her. Yeah, I just think I'll leave you
(39:01):
with that. Let's just maybe take a place, you know,
out of Kelly ben Simone's book and just yes fun
and go to this pickleball event. So I just love
catching up with you today, Cheryl. This was so fun.
I loved hearing just about that things are getting your
attention now because I just think, like six months ago,
(39:21):
you weren't talking like this. So I just like, I
like this conversation today. Well, thank you, and you know
what did.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Oh for sure going to take a play out of
fellow mentor Kelly ben Simon's playbook and just see what
happens because you never know. And of course we're going
to keep you guys posted on the pickleball events. My
mom is going to be so proud.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
So if you're ready to date again, maybe you are,
maybe you're not, and you're just not exactly sure where
to start, like myself, call us or email us. We're
here to guide you. All the info is in the
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