May 26, 2025 • 42 mins
Michelle is joined by her ride-or-die besties Angela and Betty for some much needed girl talk. Hear their thoughts on Jesse, the divorce, and what they really think about her new man. Meanwhile, are Michelle and Aaron ready to take the next step? We're lifting the veil on what comes next in her Pursuit of Sassiness.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, everyone, welcome back to my podcast. I wanted to
have my best friends on because I talked to them
every single day and they're my ride or die girlfriends.
I have my best friends on, Angela and Betty, who
also happened to be sisters, so I have amazing two
best friends.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hi. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm good. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You're glowing today, am I?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Yeah, you are this natural like glow.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I don't know. I think it's love glow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I mean I've been getting so much love, especially Mother's
Day was recently. I just feel so happy, so I
think people can see that that's good.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, I was Mother's Day.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I didn't know what we were doing, and Isabella kept
telling Aaron like, let's do a little surprise for mommy
and not tell her. And so usually I always take
Isabella to school, but we had the reunion, and so
Jesse and I both had to wake up super early,
and I didn't have a nanny.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So I actually text Jesse.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm like, what do you want to do because we
have to get Isabella to school?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Do you want Aaron? Would you like Aarin to drop
her off?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And he's like, yeah, please please, thank him for me.
So Aaron actually took her to school, but before that,
she's like, let's go buy mommy, let's go print a picture,
buy her a frame, and I'll write her a card.
So they had like a very sweet hour together, which
is kind of the first for us.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And then he took her to school and she showed
him the classroom, so it was really sweet. And then
for Mother's Day, we went to Aaron's mom house and
I just got to like relax by the pool and
they're like, take a nap, we have Isabella. So it
was just like very relaxing and I felt like like
everybody was catering to me.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh, you needed that, especially after the trip your reunion
New York.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I know all the press, there's been so much, so
I finally feel like I'm on vacation even though I'm not.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, I mean it shows like you are glowing. I'm
so happy you had a good Mother's Day. Like, I
haven't seen Isabella in so long too. How is she
She graduated?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Right? She actually she graduates tomorrow. Yeah, so she's graduating
from preschool. She's very excited, but very nervous, even though
she's super outgoing. She actually has stage fright, which I
didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I just started realizing that.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Wow, what does she say does she just gets nervous,
super nervous.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
She's like, I don't want you guys to look at me.
Don't sit in the front.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And I've been trying to like encourage her, and I'm like,
it's totally normal to feel get nervous.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Mommy gets nervous all the time. But you're gonna be amazing.
You're gonna do great.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So we've been like, we've been prepping her, but she's like,
I want you to sit next to daddy, but you
guys can't sit in the front. And we're like, we
got it, we got it. So we're just encouraging her
and we're very excited. I can't believe the baby girl
is graduating.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, So I love to tell this story because it's
super unique of how we met.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Do you remember how we mess Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
My god, it was like a main character and she
was she was. I remember like we were in Italy
and Capri, Capri Jack Brie is it And it was
our first time too, so like just being in Capri
and going down to the beach and just like seeing Isabella.
(03:31):
I was like, who is this beautiful child like in
her diaper running around?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It was like a model beach.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well it started with you weren't there yet, but we
were laying down next to Jesse at the beach and
at the beach club. At the beach club was it Fontalina, Yeah, yeah,
And Betty was like a fried lobster from her son.
I was miserable. I was, and I was just in
(04:01):
my own world tanning and our friend over her Jesse
on the phone talking about a house he was selling
about it. It was like Beverly Hills million dollar listing,
YadA YadA ya, you know how Jesse speaks on the phone.
And my friend was like, oh, you're into real state,
and they both started bonding over that because she was
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she's in real estate. And then Jesse's like, oh, I'm
here with my wife and my baby, and we're like, hmmm,
I'd love to see who the wife is. And I'm like,
must be like a blonde, like you know, it's fake
boobs injected really very fancy like vibe like typical. And
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then out of nowhere, I just look up and there's
this girl, which is you. You came down the mountain,
it's like a hike to get down there, and you
were holding Isabella and it was you were really hot
and you were so like plain Jane and your tank
top and jeans, shorts and flip flops, while everyone's like
(05:09):
in linen and like bougie swimwear Massoni cover ups, I mean,
including us. But it was so cool, like you like
triped us out. You weren't what we thought you were
gonna be as his.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Wife, and I love that you befriended Jesse Firs.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And then Isabella had to nap.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So the plan was like I take care of Isabella,
she naps, she wakes up from nap, and then I
have to walk down in order to get to this
beach club. It's called Bontalina. It's super famous in Capri.
It's like the very end of the island and it's
so hard to get there and you have to take
like three hundred steps.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And it's like one hundred ten degrees like.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Hot, yeah over humid.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I'm like, I'm not trying to look cute. I have
a baby.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So I had one of those straps and I had
her in the front with my headphones and just like
walked down by myself and I remember.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You guys, and you guys were just super.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Friendly and you actually started helping me with Isabella.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'm like, can I play with your daughter? You're like,
of course, you're like take her. And we were just
playing with her, and you were I mean, you had
your eye on us, but we were next to each other.
So we just clicked and.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
She she was so social, like as a child, she
was just like okay, cool, Like I met you guys,
we're gonna plan.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Like I held her.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
She didn't even cry at all. She's been always independent.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, ever since she was a little girl.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean she loves to like she's just the life
of the party. And I think she's always going to
be that way. She just has that personality.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
She has no fear.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, so we actually that was one of my favorite
trips because I feel like we immediately bonded.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yes, and we were just laughing all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, there's another funny story, do you remember now? And
we were drinking in the what is yeah, the town square,
and Betty kept saying, excuse me, sir, excuse me, sir, sir, sir, sir,
and he like looked at her, like what she's like.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It started like when Jesse was like, I love wine
and all he does is like sit there at night
and just drink wine. And I'm like, yes, like I
found my like wine buddy. So we all sat down,
We're drinking. And I didn't know this that Cabernet is
a California wine. I sound so stupid right now, but
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I didn't know that either. Not everyone knows that.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, and I'm like, my knife, as I did, you did?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean, she she.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Was married to Jesse, was gonna know that. I just
kept saying, like, I want a red wine, a dry
red wine. Do you have cabernet? And He's like, ma'am,
we do not have italy, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That is no cabinet. And I'm like, oh crap, there
goes my spicy margarita. Yeah. I wouldn't even dared to
order that.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I feel like all I had to drink was a
little white wine. But I don't remember. At that time.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I wasn't really drinking, but I was just having so
much fun with you guys, because.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
You were just very funny.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You were in tears.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I was one of the like, you guys are so funny.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And how rare is that to like connect with somebody.
We all live in LA but we're just in Italy.
And it was like the best thing.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, it was like an instant connection.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And then we kept in touch after we came back.
You and Jesse had us over and we did the
Christmas party at your other apartment.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh yeah, we used to love to do Christmas parties
and we would kind of go all out and bite everybody.
So you got to meet ye, Brittany and everybody. And
so what I love about you guys is you've seen
me through go through everything we have.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
We met you at like the time in your life
where everything just I think started changing, like crazy, turning
life back because.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Isabella was like what one and a half?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, she was really young.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah. So and then that's when you started having your
doubts about leaving Jesse, right, was it from then? Because
you were closed off? But then like with us, you
were very like like you were shining, but then like
with Jesse, you would just like kind of cave in
and sometimes seem sad, which we just thought that was
(09:34):
your personality of being quiet. Yeah, yourself introverted.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Are like that, Yeah, Betty and I are scorpios.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I was like, maybe that's who she is, but obviously,
as time tells, we saw everything.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, do you think I'm the same person that I
was when you met me?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
With us? Obviously, I think to the outside world you
seem more at peace, heard like happier, You're glowing. Yeah,
you're like not on edge, it's just just living through life.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I feel like you're also because you're in a period
where so many things are happening and changing, you're finding
out who you are more.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I feel like when you were married to Jesse, you
were kind of like taking on the wife role and like, oh,
it's Jesse's like wife partner. Like I don't know why.
I just feel like now you're kind of more into
who am I? Like what can I do without without
a man or with a new man? Like who am I?
And you're still like figuring that out?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, as I say the mom, Yeah, I know, it's
kind of crazy to think that I'm in my thirties
and like I'm now starting over and doing it all
over again. But honestly, I'm so happy now and I'm
so glad looking back. It just makes perfect sense, and
I'm glad, yeah that I know.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You live and you learn, Like even when the fires happened,
you were like, I just need to get Isabella out
of the house and we need to leave. Like you
didn't think of like the stuff you have to pack
to leave. I forgot everything. Oh yeah, I leave their passport.
Whether there's a fire.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, there was a fire near us by actually Runyon Canyon.
The hiking trail like blew up quickly and thank god
they stopped it fast. But we were going to be
evacuated and I didn't want to be in traffic or whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And I had Isabella, I'm like, we need to go.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I had a conversation with Jesse and Aaron and we're like,
we're going to go to Aaron's mom's house. That's, you know,
almost an hour away.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Did Isabella understand what was happening.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
A little bit, but I wasn't trying to frighten her.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And I remember just packing like her BJ's diaper, like
just a couple things. And then when I got there,
I was like, I didn't pack anything important. I was like, honestly,
nothing matters right close, none of the Like I've grown
so much as a person and you realize, like in
an emergency, none of those things actually matter.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So back to traveling, I want to I used to
travel every summer. That was kind of the thing that
we used to do. I haven't done that many years.
I finally went on my first trip to Hawaii with Aaron,
which was amazing. But I want to plan another trip
because I feel like, ready, we miss I miss Paris. Yeah,
and I would like, I want to do Paris with you, yea,
(12:33):
because I feel like, you know Parish really well. If
I could live anywhere, it would be Paris, Like I
would have an apartment.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It always says that I would.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, it's just I don't know, Like walking outside just
I don't know. It's just so beautiful and bread taking.
It's like this is all I need, Like I just
need to step outside and I'm good.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Just all the cafes and like all the parks and
gardens and museums and you can make it whatever you sure. Yeah,
And I got to experience Paris in different ways obviously,
like the best way ever. We always used to stay
at the Ritz, so it's kind of like very special
to me and I proposed to the right.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
He did ye, and.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It was pretty romantic and very special, and like, I
just feel like the Ritz is one of the best
places to stay in Paris. Is just like exceptional service
and everything's just perfection. So I actually enjoyed looking at
Laura Sanchez was having like her bachelorette weekend, and I
(13:39):
love looking at the outfits. And I think Kim Kardashian
stayed at the Ritz. Whenever they take pictures, I'm like, oh,
that's in the elevator, that's I know everything.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I love that. I really like it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, I know the Bachelorette was a good fashion vibe.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I mean Kim k oh my god, I fails it.
But like her look was, I was like dumbfounded. She
looked so elegant, beautiful, her jewelry.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Her hair.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I'm like, this is the best, in my opinion, she's
ever looked.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, even Chris Jenner, oh your serving looks.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Everyone's talking about how she must have had another surgery
because she does look like she's forty.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
She does like in her forties.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
She does, and the hair do I think, I mean,
they always pull it off really well. Katy Perry. I
didn't really like that much. She didn't stand out. I mean,
if there's like Kim always, you're not gonna stand out.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think she just loves.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Just look I love it.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, you love him.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I actually love is Eva Longoria. I absolutely love how
she dresses everything from head to toe, her makeup, her hairstyles.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, like I want to have her stylist when.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I always screenshot her looks.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, always always sending each other Instagram memes and photos.
And actually, something that most people don't know is Angela
is basically my stylist.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Very low key, she really is.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I need her approval on everything. She dresses both of us, right,
oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I mean Michelle's fun because we see it in the press,
on TV, at events.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Buddy, like our day to day life, Please explain how
you have bet Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Mean Betty's is like a different situation. It's more like funny.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I mean we make a good time out of it.
Like she'll literally go on a shopping spree for me
and she'll be like, Okay, the box arrived, Like let's
do this.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And she'll be like no because she doesn't like to
get dressed. And I'll get a glass of wine and
I'll be like, mom, Betty's closed, are here, and she'll
be like, oh, I'm so ready to see this. And
Betty will where like out of the twenty outfits too
will work, but those like eighteen outfits, it's a shit show.
(16:06):
Just it tracked up. It's like a fashion show. You're thinking, yeah,
Whereas with you, you'll put it on and I'll be like, oh,
I don't know, I love it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But you'll also tell me without trying to be mean.
You'll be like, do you have other objects?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I'm like, you just tell me.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I'll be like, that's so like prom But most of
the time I do think I have good style.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You do. We're different though. You're very like plain elegant,
whereas like I'll like tight, like body fitting outfits and
I realized you don't love that, so I'm like, wait,
I gotta think of like Michelle and her style. You
can't just be like you got a shop for the person, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, Well going back to you guys, because you both
still live together, Yes, you live at home.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yes, Angela is the older one.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You're the stylish one, and so Betty you're just more
simple right.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, I like for me my style. Yeah, it's simple.
It's up to me, like, oh, we're a baggy T
shirt and like baggy pants all day. And Angela is
more like, let's do something tight, let's do some heels,
let's like more feminine. And I'm like, like, I don't care,
I don't care, like I like chill. Yeah, but yeah,
(17:24):
it's it's interesting, like we kind of balance each other
out though we're.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So different yet, Like I mean, I think us three
balance each other. Yeah, you know what you're like the
middle ground of us.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, what I love about us is I feel like
we're kind of like sex in the city.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Like all three of us.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Are so different with such different personalities. So when we
go out to lunch or dinner, like it's just so
funny we crack up.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, very true.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, So I haven't actually seen you in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
We used to do like daily or weekly or monthly dinners,
but we haven't had the chance to do that just
because we both we've all been so busy.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, it's been crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
How is your dating life going?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
God, mine is like not happening, non existent as of now.
I'm just like overwhelmed. I think with like life and
work and just trying to get stuff in order. So
I just feel like dating now, I'm emotionally unavailable.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think you need to start putting yourself first.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
You never do, yeah, but I think before like putting
myself first would be kind of like doing something for
myself versus like going on a date.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I feel like you feel guilty if you ever like
put yourself first, Like.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Self care is something I need to do way more,
and I feel like I need to prioritize that before dating.
That makes sense, because how can I be available emotionally
on a date if I'm not even there for myself.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That's a healthy way to look at it.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, yeah, what about you, Angela.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I haven't been on a date in ten years, and honestly,
it used to affect me because all like ninety five
percent of my friends are married and have kids and
I'm thirty six. I'm just living life as it goes,
(19:24):
and it doesn't affect me anymore because I've found my
peace and happiness like within me, So it's not like,
oh my god, I need to be married by next
year and have a child. Like sometimes you don't need
to do things in order. It's how whatever happens happens.
Like I could have a kid on my own. I
(19:45):
don't need a husband, you know, because he can't be
traditional anymore. I think that's kind of like done.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I think so too, because we've been an.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Old school but and I like traditional ways.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But yeah, it's very interesting for you guys because you
guys are Armenian, very Armenian or that type of culture,
similar to the Persian culture. It's like the only thing
parents really care about is like who are you gonna marry,
When are you gonna get married, When are you gonna
have kids?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And so I always kind of had that in the
back of my head. And so to me, I always
had a goal that I wanted to be married before thirty.
That was kind of like a check that I wanted,
which I did.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And you know, but you.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Know what, I kind of really admired how your mom was.
I feel like the first person to tell you, like Michelle,
stop wasting your years and leave Jesse. Yeah, she wasn't like, oh,
you know, you have a daughter, like stick it out.
Continue Like usually moms will be like no, like this
(20:52):
is how it is. It's not greener on the other
side of the world. Yeah, especially like.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Like Middle Eastern mom or like you know, more conservative
traditional old school moms, or like what are you gonna
do divorce? Like what direction are you gonna go? What
are people gonna think? How are you gonna get married again?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
So it's kind of like stick it out and deal
with it versus.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Now, which is kind of like the advice we gave
you when you said I think I'm ready to leave,
and I.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Was like, are you sure.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I'm like, just try to work it out, be with him,
whereas Betty was kind of understanding your feelings more and
I was very much like Michelle, give it a chance,
like really scare him, make him understand you're gonna leave
if he doesn't change. Well.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I appreciated both your opinions and what I remember Betty
that you always kind of compared like what your family
was like and they weren't exactly happy, and you're like,
I wish my parents would have left.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Right, Yeah, I mean seeing, I mean that's what was
really like looking at your situation too. I think it
was very brave of you to do what you did,
because I know so many kids like who wish their
parents divorced, and they the thing, like the ways life
would have been different for them if they grew up
(22:19):
as adults who their parents did divorce, it would have
been so much less toxicity in the house, less arguments,
like it just honestly changes the kids, a better relationship
with each parent separately, Like you're not hearing every day
like your dad did this, your mom did this. It's
so toxic, and like staying in that environment and growing
(22:41):
up into an adult and constantly hearing that, especially for.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Us, because I think maybe that's why we're still single
and not.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Even to like we still live with our parents because
it's just the like cultural norm. So even till today,
like still hearing that. It's just so draining. It's so toxic,
and obviously there's gonna be some things about that that
is affecting our dating life and what kind of partners.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
We're looking for. Beddy will be like I won't tolerate that,
and then I'll be like, I mean, like this is it,
Like this is how it is, like you have to
deal with his stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, you're more accepting, like you're kind of stuck more
in that old school thing.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Like I won't stick with the guy if he's like
abusive and alcoholic, a drug head or anything.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
But like the little things, but they are kind of
big things.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Like my patience is there, whereas you're like, nah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Do you also think being in LA is a factor
like dating and such a busy.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I'm sure, but I don't know any better, Like we haven't.
I mean, I was dating my ex boyfriend was in Australia,
so that was a big step for me to like
go back and forth every month and a half two years.
And I actually like respect my parents for that, for
(24:06):
allowing me to do that. And they knew it wasn't
going to work out because I'm the type that I
can't survive without my family, so they allowed me to
learn on my own through my mistakes that it wouldn't
work out.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So I mean, I mean you have that personality though,
like yeah, I always tell her, like she'll be like
I want to do this, and I'm like, but you
know this is going to happen, and she's like, well,
I'm still going to do it anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, Like let me learn on my own way. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I feel like That's how I've always lived, right since
I can remember.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Right, But in Sydney, everyone was like twenty six and
like a CEO, already wanting to get married and have kids,
like guys, Whereas over here in LA they're into like
they're just like boys. I don't know, like let me
have the nice car, let me go to the like
most happening restaurant, and oh it's Thursday night, like this
(25:10):
club or I don't know, Yeah, it's just like its
old yeah fast, Yeah, like every decade has its own
special time and you need to like accept the growth
and let go.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, well, I still believe in love. I found my
love again, Yes you do.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I think it's hard out there, but I think there
is somebody for everybody, and you have to make the effort.
And for you guys, I always say, like, you guys
are homebodies, so am I like, you have to go
out in order to meet people. It's not going to
happen if you just always stay home. So I'm constantly
encouraging you both because I want to see you guys
(25:54):
one day.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You actually do push us.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
To like get out of our comfort zone.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, I mean you you take us out of our
comfort zone a lot, like doing this podcasting the podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Or like well, thank you again, because again, yeah, this
is obvious.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah yeah, I just wanted people to get to know
who I am. I literally talk to you guys every
single day, whether it's text, messages, Instagram. We're having multiple
conversations on all platforms.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It'll be like laughing at a TikTok and then you'll
be like venting about something that bothered you that day
and I'm like okay. And then it'll be like, what
do you think about this outfit? And I'm like okay.
Three combos, autos.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
And all on different platforms like Instagram, text message, voice note.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah yeah, the voice notes infamous for that.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And Betty's kind of my therapist because you've studied so
much and you have an old soul.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah I do. Yeah, Betty's psychology comes in handy.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I mean yeah again, it's like The Sex and the
City like Triad. It's like the therapist, the stylist, and
like the main character guy.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
So how did you guys feel when you met Aaron
for the first time?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Trying to remember our I think it was as yeah,
oh yeah, Beddy and him clicked of course right away.
They were talking about dreams.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Oh yeah, oh yeah we were.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And I was like, whoa Aaron takes his He's tall, handsome,
and he takes his dreams very serious.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah, and Mozelle just kept like sipping on our margarite.
They're like mm hmmm. And Betty's like, well it means
this that you saw this in your dream and Aaron
was like going on and.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
It just kept continuing, and I'm like cool, like if
you're into this, let's let's dive in.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
But no, he was this sweetheart. He's like Jesse was charming,
but it's charms different. They're like you can't compare them
at all. They're all different.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And that's what's so funny to me. Like you went
from like a guy in like suits all day and
like loafers and like let's go hang out in Beverly
Hills and Aaron is like let's go high hike yeah,
and like have honey and like talk about a book.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
It's so different, which is kind of you.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah. Yeah, like being married to Jesse never changed you.
I feel like you didn't. You weren't into the fancy
like lifestyle as Jesse was.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I mean I liked it. Everybody I think is gonna
like it, But it wasn't like my motivation or I
had to have it. Like I could go to a
nice restaurant or I could have go to like a
hole in a wall place. It doesn't matter to me,
you know, if the food's good or if I'm with
good company, that's all that really.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Matters to me. Same yeah, same yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So all my friends really liked him, which I like,
that was a crazy time because we had just started
dating and I remember now we went to horses and
the following day, Aaron's dad passed away suddenly had a
heart attack. And actually that's I think what made our
(29:19):
connection even stronger because you know, he was so close
to his dad. I was so close to my mom,
Like we were very close to our parents, and I've
never experienced something like that before, and so I was
just very supportive and like we were together day, night
and day, and I think that made our bond and
relationship so much stronger.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
But I mean, you guys went in with like some
real life trauma, baggage issues, baggage and not fighting. Yeah,
like you were going through divorce, you have a child,
and then he lost his dad, and then your mom
was six. It wasn't like sell what was your last date?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Like?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Right, it was very like real life.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
It was it was like shallow. I feel like you
guys were fresh and shit got real and like when
you go through like loss and grief, especially in a relationship,
you really see who that person is. Yeah, and how's
your partner coming for you in that time of need?
So yeah, I mean from what I saw, Aaron was
(30:30):
there for you when your mom passed, you were there
for him when his dad passed. And yeah, I just
the compatibility I think too. It just from the beginning,
like you guys were on the same level.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I feel like even though Aaron is the youngest guy
you've dated, right, yeah, by far.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He's two years older than me. Jesse was eight and
a half years older than me. The X before Jesse
was like fourteen years older than me.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That was my biggest gap.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
How was that?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
It was good?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Did you ever feel like I'm too young or like
his energy was like old.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Or like no, my ex boyfriend was very young, attractive
or not young. He was like young, spirited, okay, and handsome,
you know, English from London, had a house in London,
lived in la He was very sophisticated, had a PhD.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Where'd you go to London often?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, that was the first time that I had traveled
to Europe. I was going back and forth in London.
A lot of people don't know this, And I was
just very mature. I think, like I can be immature
at times, a naive, but at the same time, like
I grew up quickly, and.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
So I see where Isabella gets it from.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Now, I guess you're right.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, age is just a number, is just how two
people are. I was very mature, so it was fine.
It just didn't work out at the end. And I'm like, dude,
I don't really want to go into detail about that.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It just didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
So I've been with a wide range, but Aaron is
definitely the youngest. There are little times where I can
see that he still has like a young spirit. But overall,
I think we're a really good match. You guys are
I do think like with everything you guys are like.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Hopeless romantic, like from the notebook. Yeah, it still feels
even your date nights or like what he'll plan for you,
it's just different special.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
He makes me feel very special and very seen and
like I've never had all of these feelings that I
still get, Like, I still feel that we're in the
honeymoon stage and we've been together almost a year and
a half later.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, Like with Aaron sometimes not that you ever get jealous,
but you'll get jealous. But with Jesse, when like you,
when we saw you at the beach, I was like, oh,
like she's gonna get like kind of annoyed by us
and be like were these girls talking to my husband?
And you were so sweet and you're like Hi, I'm like, oh, okay,
(33:15):
honest yeah, that was like a first for me. I
don't know are girls like that you?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I like, I were so sweet. I'm like, this is weird.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I had zero jealousy with Jesse, and I don't actually
know why. Maybe I do, Like I don't know, I
don't know what it was, but with him, I just
wasn't jealous.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I think I was so used to him.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Always being gone, being out talking to everybody that or
like we didn't we didn't have that connection.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You didn't even have that fear like, oh, he's cheating
on me right now. I'm sure at times you did,
but you would never bring that up to us, like
he's out, he's drinking, like he must be cheating, Like
that never went like you just I just think that
I disconnected.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I think that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And with Aaron, you have you're like a fricking hot firecracker.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
No, I'm not that bad, but I have.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Like what some of us maybe once a month and and
like you'll put me one.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
We could ask Eric.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I'll ask him next time. But yeah, he I guess
I am jealous now. And it's just because I do
love him so much and I do think he's like
a great catch. He's a great personality. I think I
think he's very handsome. So yeah, I'm learning a lot
about myself and I can be a little firecracker.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I think it's there's nothing wrong with that. It spices
it up.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yeah, I mean, it just shows that you're really invested.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I mean, doesn't Aaron get jealous.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
He does a little bit, a little bit here and there.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
But I think it's normal, and I think it's healthy
to be something jealous. And that's the thing, Like I
wasn't jealous at all in my past relationship, and I
don't think that was healthy at all.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Right, Yeah, and then you guys talk about it, you
learn what bothered him, what bothered you? No, I think
it's just it. It's needed.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Yeah, it's a little it's healthy, I guess, yeah, in
small doses.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, But about wedding, do you guys talk about that?
Do you think you'll have a big wedding or have
it very.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
We don't have like deep deep conversations, but we're both
on the same page. Like we I just moved in.
I've I've said that to some people. It moved in
a couple months ago. I lived on my own for
a year and it was just like the right time.
I think we were really strong and it was something
actually Isabella also wanted, we all wanted, so we moved
(35:44):
into his place. It's been great and obviously, like before
I moved in, it's like, you know, I'm not just
going to move in to move in, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yah.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Point is to have a future.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
And he's like, of course, like I completely agree with you,
and oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I mean you guys did take it fast. But also
like how he said, life gave you a lot of
like these obstacles together where you got through each step.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
So yeah, so that's the goal.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
He has made comments like, oh, I want a big wedding,
and you know, I kind of have been there, done that,
and you know, to me from my experience, like a
wedding can be so expensive even if you try to
do it like a small intimate everything adds up and
at the end of the day, I think that it's
(36:35):
more about the guests and you're hosting, and and it
goes by so fast, Like I would rather just take
like a couple of week vacation or like, you know,
just do something super super intimate like at the beach
or something like I don't want this full grand wedding whatsoever.
(36:56):
And to me, it just be like more intimate and
private to just do like us our best friends and
like immediate family.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Right, that's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I agree, And I host your bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I've never had a bachelorette. No, really, we never did that.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Jesse didn't do one either.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
We didn't do that.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Shocking. I would think he would want like he would
really want one. I don't know, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I never thought of it.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
And I wasn't like, oh, I want to go to
Vegas or Miami, Like, no, if I would have a
bachelorette like again, I would just want to go to Paris,
to Paris and go to a nice restaurant and like
enjoy the day.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yeah, I love how you still want to go to Paris,
Like I feel like other people would have such a
kind of bittersweet attitude. I was once proposed to there
and then we got divorced. I don't know if I
want to go back like old memories. Yeah, walking into
the rights.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Are you going to like remember that? Is it gonna
make your heart sink? Or you're just gonna with like
Aaron and be like I'm not phased by it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I don't know because I haven't really put myself in
that position yet. I want to have new experiences in
Paris with Aaron because we haven't done that, and it's
like it's an entire city. I'm not gonna not go
there because I was proposed there, of course, So.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I don't know how I'll feel.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I've had little situations like that, but like again, he's
still part of my Life's Jesse's always going to be
in my life because we share Isabella and I'm human.
There's like moments where I have those feelings.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, you do have feelings. I think you're just so
like closed off and very much like I hate Jesse
or you know, you don't. You just get upset and
you want to be good with him for Isabella because
that's what matters. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I really think like one day you guys are just
going to.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Be like, oh yeah, Betty always says it.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I always say this, like down down, Like in the future,
I could just literally see you guys like having lunch
together casually and just being like, yeah, Isabella's doing so well,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
How's everything. I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
I just have this feeling like you guys are gonna
like have this vision.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, I just see it.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And I feel like you're pretty like psychic. Yeah, you
can call a lot of things out that will happen.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Like intuitive, I guess. Yeah, I just have a feeling,
I hope.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I mean, Aaron grew up in that type of environment,
like that's very normal to him. He had a dad
and stepdad and they always like Thanksgiving, they were all
together and they were all friends, and so he's like,
you know, it can happen and it's very normal to him,
and he's you know, I appreciate that because I don't
(39:47):
know if all men would be like that. So changing subjects.
I was at run Yan and I always have crazy
things happen.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
To me Rania, and now you do.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I didn't do anything, did you see?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I was hiking And then I got a FaceTime call.
I just sold a house to the YouTuber Mike Malick.
They call him Big Mike, and he was facetiming me.
He never face times me, so I answer it and
it's him and logan Paul Wow, and they're like giving.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Me this face. I'm like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
And they were watching Santa Barbara and they're like, oh
my god, this is insane. And then he's like, thank
you so much for selling my house. He's like, I've
been so busy, I haven't even thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
That's sweet. Yeah, well I didn't know you guys had
a relationship like that. Yeah, we're in touch with your clients. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I think it's really important. You know, you don't just
sell a house and never talk to them again. It's like,
I build these relationships because you know one day he's
going to want to buy again, or he might know people.
And yeah, he's like the super funniest guy ever. I
love watching his YouTube and I just approved of the episode.
(41:05):
He just approved or he just thought like the whole
thing because he only knows us real estate related and
then professional level, very professional, and he doesn't know me
any other way. So it was just really funny to
get their reaction, and Logan was just looking at me like.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Oh my god, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah, so that's pretty cool, really cool.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
That is cool.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, I'm like, I think.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I should go to run Yan like I'll know.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, I'm telling you guys go out and.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
About like a magical canyon.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Everybody goes there because it's like the perfect place.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
To run, and I mean I to go. Yeah, yeah,
I haven't gone as often. I used to go every
single day. Now I'm going about four.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Days a week. So it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
It is a lot, really, yeah, I mean I used
to go. I used to walk like fifteen thousand steps.
Now I'm doing like six seven thousand steps. That's not
that much, but it's still my good.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
You look amazing.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Thank you. I think I'm just happy and healthy.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Yeah, it's come from it, like starts from within, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, that's what shows on your face. Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah. Thanks, Well, I think it's time for us to
go have lunch and maybe a margarita.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Margarita time.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, thank you guys for coming on, for having us.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yes, it was a blast.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
It was a blast.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Thank you. Thank you for having us. Honestly, like again,
like you really push us out of our comfort zone
and this was like the cherry on top.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Honestactly, pursuit of sassiness. We're always in the pursuit of
something and I always want everybody and I encourage my
friends people I don't know, like do something that you're
uncomfortable doing, because you're gonna thank yourself later.
Hi, everyone, welcome back to my podcast. I wanted to
have my best friends on because I talked to them
every single day and they're my ride or die girlfriends.
I have my best friends on, Angela and Betty, who
also happened to be sisters, so I have amazing two
best friends.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hi. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm good. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You're glowing today, am I?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Yeah, you are this natural like glow.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I don't know. I think it's love glow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I mean I've been getting so much love, especially Mother's
Day was recently. I just feel so happy, so I
think people can see that that's good.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, I was Mother's Day.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I didn't know what we were doing, and Isabella kept
telling Aaron like, let's do a little surprise for mommy
and not tell her. And so usually I always take
Isabella to school, but we had the reunion, and so
Jesse and I both had to wake up super early,
and I didn't have a nanny.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So I actually text Jesse.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm like, what do you want to do because we
have to get Isabella to school?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Do you want Aaron? Would you like Aarin to drop
her off?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And he's like, yeah, please please, thank him for me.
So Aaron actually took her to school, but before that,
she's like, let's go buy mommy, let's go print a picture,
buy her a frame, and I'll write her a card.
So they had like a very sweet hour together, which
is kind of the first for us.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
And then he took her to school and she showed
him the classroom, so it was really sweet. And then
for Mother's Day, we went to Aaron's mom house and
I just got to like relax by the pool and
they're like, take a nap, we have Isabella. So it
was just like very relaxing and I felt like like
everybody was catering to me.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh, you needed that, especially after the trip your reunion
New York.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I know all the press, there's been so much, so
I finally feel like I'm on vacation even though I'm not.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, I mean it shows like you are glowing. I'm
so happy you had a good Mother's Day. Like, I
haven't seen Isabella in so long too. How is she
She graduated?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Right? She actually she graduates tomorrow. Yeah, so she's graduating
from preschool. She's very excited, but very nervous, even though
she's super outgoing. She actually has stage fright, which I
didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I just started realizing that.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Wow, what does she say does she just gets nervous,
super nervous.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
She's like, I don't want you guys to look at me.
Don't sit in the front.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And I've been trying to like encourage her, and I'm like,
it's totally normal to feel get nervous.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Mommy gets nervous all the time. But you're gonna be amazing.
You're gonna do great.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So we've been like, we've been prepping her, but she's like,
I want you to sit next to daddy, but you
guys can't sit in the front. And we're like, we
got it, we got it. So we're just encouraging her
and we're very excited. I can't believe the baby girl
is graduating.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, So I love to tell this story because it's
super unique of how we met.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Do you remember how we mess Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
My god, it was like a main character and she
was she was. I remember like we were in Italy
and Capri, Capri Jack Brie is it And it was
our first time too, so like just being in Capri
and going down to the beach and just like seeing Isabella.
(03:31):
I was like, who is this beautiful child like in
her diaper running around?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It was like a model beach.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Well it started with you weren't there yet, but we
were laying down next to Jesse at the beach and
at the beach club. At the beach club was it Fontalina, Yeah, yeah,
And Betty was like a fried lobster from her son.
I was miserable. I was, and I was just in
(04:01):
my own world tanning and our friend over her Jesse
on the phone talking about a house he was selling
about it. It was like Beverly Hills million dollar listing,
YadA YadA ya, you know how Jesse speaks on the phone.
And my friend was like, oh, you're into real state,
and they both started bonding over that because she was
(04:23):
she's in real estate. And then Jesse's like, oh, I'm
here with my wife and my baby, and we're like, hmmm,
I'd love to see who the wife is. And I'm like,
must be like a blonde, like you know, it's fake
boobs injected really very fancy like vibe like typical. And
(04:48):
then out of nowhere, I just look up and there's
this girl, which is you. You came down the mountain,
it's like a hike to get down there, and you
were holding Isabella and it was you were really hot
and you were so like plain Jane and your tank
top and jeans, shorts and flip flops, while everyone's like
(05:09):
in linen and like bougie swimwear Massoni cover ups, I mean,
including us. But it was so cool, like you like
triped us out. You weren't what we thought you were
gonna be as his.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Wife, and I love that you befriended Jesse Firs.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
And then Isabella had to nap.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So the plan was like I take care of Isabella,
she naps, she wakes up from nap, and then I
have to walk down in order to get to this
beach club. It's called Bontalina. It's super famous in Capri.
It's like the very end of the island and it's
so hard to get there and you have to take
like three hundred steps.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And it's like one hundred ten degrees like.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Hot, yeah over humid.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I'm like, I'm not trying to look cute. I have
a baby.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So I had one of those straps and I had
her in the front with my headphones and just like
walked down by myself and I remember.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You guys, and you guys were just super.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Friendly and you actually started helping me with Isabella.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I'm like, can I play with your daughter? You're like,
of course, you're like take her. And we were just
playing with her, and you were I mean, you had
your eye on us, but we were next to each other.
So we just clicked and.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
She she was so social, like as a child, she
was just like okay, cool, Like I met you guys,
we're gonna plan.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Like I held her.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
She didn't even cry at all. She's been always independent.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, ever since she was a little girl.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I mean she loves to like she's just the life
of the party. And I think she's always going to
be that way. She just has that personality.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
She has no fear.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, so we actually that was one of my favorite
trips because I feel like we immediately bonded.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yes, and we were just laughing all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, there's another funny story, do you remember now? And
we were drinking in the what is yeah, the town square,
and Betty kept saying, excuse me, sir, excuse me, sir, sir, sir, sir,
and he like looked at her, like what she's like.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It started like when Jesse was like, I love wine
and all he does is like sit there at night
and just drink wine. And I'm like, yes, like I
found my like wine buddy. So we all sat down,
We're drinking. And I didn't know this that Cabernet is
a California wine. I sound so stupid right now, but
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I didn't know that either. Not everyone knows that.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, and I'm like, my knife, as I did, you did?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean, she she.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Was married to Jesse, was gonna know that. I just
kept saying, like, I want a red wine, a dry
red wine. Do you have cabernet? And He's like, ma'am,
we do not have italy, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That is no cabinet. And I'm like, oh crap, there
goes my spicy margarita. Yeah. I wouldn't even dared to
order that.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I feel like all I had to drink was a
little white wine. But I don't remember. At that time.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I wasn't really drinking, but I was just having so
much fun with you guys, because.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
You were just very funny.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You were in tears.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I was one of the like, you guys are so funny.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And how rare is that to like connect with somebody.
We all live in LA but we're just in Italy.
And it was like the best thing.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, it was like an instant connection.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And then we kept in touch after we came back.
You and Jesse had us over and we did the
Christmas party at your other apartment.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh yeah, we used to love to do Christmas parties
and we would kind of go all out and bite everybody.
So you got to meet ye, Brittany and everybody. And
so what I love about you guys is you've seen
me through go through everything we have.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
We met you at like the time in your life
where everything just I think started changing, like crazy, turning
life back because.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Isabella was like what one and a half?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, she was really young.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah. So and then that's when you started having your
doubts about leaving Jesse, right, was it from then? Because
you were closed off? But then like with us, you
were very like like you were shining, but then like
with Jesse, you would just like kind of cave in
and sometimes seem sad, which we just thought that was
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your personality of being quiet. Yeah, yourself introverted.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Are like that, Yeah, Betty and I are scorpios.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I was like, maybe that's who she is, but obviously,
as time tells, we saw everything.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, do you think I'm the same person that I
was when you met me?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
With us? Obviously, I think to the outside world you
seem more at peace, heard like happier, You're glowing. Yeah,
you're like not on edge, it's just just living through life.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I feel like you're also because you're in a period
where so many things are happening and changing, you're finding
out who you are more.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I feel like when you were married to Jesse, you
were kind of like taking on the wife role and like, oh,
it's Jesse's like wife partner. Like I don't know why.
I just feel like now you're kind of more into
who am I? Like what can I do without without
a man or with a new man? Like who am I?
And you're still like figuring that out?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, as I say the mom, Yeah, I know, it's
kind of crazy to think that I'm in my thirties
and like I'm now starting over and doing it all
over again. But honestly, I'm so happy now and I'm
so glad looking back. It just makes perfect sense, and
I'm glad, yeah that I know.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You live and you learn, Like even when the fires happened,
you were like, I just need to get Isabella out
of the house and we need to leave. Like you
didn't think of like the stuff you have to pack
to leave. I forgot everything. Oh yeah, I leave their passport.
Whether there's a fire.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well, there was a fire near us by actually Runyon Canyon.
The hiking trail like blew up quickly and thank god
they stopped it fast. But we were going to be
evacuated and I didn't want to be in traffic or whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And I had Isabella, I'm like, we need to go.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I had a conversation with Jesse and Aaron and we're like,
we're going to go to Aaron's mom's house. That's, you know,
almost an hour away.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Did Isabella understand what was happening.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
A little bit, but I wasn't trying to frighten her.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And I remember just packing like her BJ's diaper, like
just a couple things. And then when I got there,
I was like, I didn't pack anything important. I was like, honestly,
nothing matters right close, none of the Like I've grown
so much as a person and you realize, like in
an emergency, none of those things actually matter.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So back to traveling, I want to I used to
travel every summer. That was kind of the thing that
we used to do. I haven't done that many years.
I finally went on my first trip to Hawaii with Aaron,
which was amazing. But I want to plan another trip
because I feel like, ready, we miss I miss Paris. Yeah,
and I would like, I want to do Paris with you, yea,
(12:33):
because I feel like, you know Parish really well. If
I could live anywhere, it would be Paris, Like I
would have an apartment.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It always says that I would.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, it's just I don't know, Like walking outside just
I don't know. It's just so beautiful and bread taking.
It's like this is all I need, Like I just
need to step outside and I'm good.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Just all the cafes and like all the parks and
gardens and museums and you can make it whatever you sure. Yeah,
And I got to experience Paris in different ways obviously,
like the best way ever. We always used to stay
at the Ritz, so it's kind of like very special
to me and I proposed to the right.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
He did ye, and.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
It was pretty romantic and very special, and like, I
just feel like the Ritz is one of the best
places to stay in Paris. Is just like exceptional service
and everything's just perfection. So I actually enjoyed looking at
Laura Sanchez was having like her bachelorette weekend, and I
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love looking at the outfits. And I think Kim Kardashian
stayed at the Ritz. Whenever they take pictures, I'm like, oh,
that's in the elevator, that's I know everything.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I love that. I really like it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, I know the Bachelorette was a good fashion vibe.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I mean Kim k oh my god, I fails it.
But like her look was, I was like dumbfounded. She
looked so elegant, beautiful, her jewelry.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Her hair.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I'm like, this is the best, in my opinion, she's
ever looked.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, even Chris Jenner, oh your serving looks.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Everyone's talking about how she must have had another surgery
because she does look like she's forty.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
She does like in her forties.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
She does, and the hair do I think, I mean,
they always pull it off really well. Katy Perry. I
didn't really like that much. She didn't stand out. I mean,
if there's like Kim always, you're not gonna stand out.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I think she just loves.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Just look I love it.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, you love him.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I actually love is Eva Longoria. I absolutely love how
she dresses everything from head to toe, her makeup, her hairstyles.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, like I want to have her stylist when.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
I always screenshot her looks.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, always always sending each other Instagram memes and photos.
And actually, something that most people don't know is Angela
is basically my stylist.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Very low key, she really is.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I need her approval on everything. She dresses both of us, right,
oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I mean Michelle's fun because we see it in the press,
on TV, at events.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Buddy, like our day to day life, Please explain how
you have bet Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Mean Betty's is like a different situation. It's more like funny.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I mean we make a good time out of it.
Like she'll literally go on a shopping spree for me
and she'll be like, Okay, the box arrived, Like let's
do this.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And she'll be like no because she doesn't like to
get dressed. And I'll get a glass of wine and
I'll be like, mom, Betty's closed, are here, and she'll
be like, oh, I'm so ready to see this. And
Betty will where like out of the twenty outfits too
will work, but those like eighteen outfits, it's a shit show.
(16:06):
Just it tracked up. It's like a fashion show. You're thinking, yeah,
Whereas with you, you'll put it on and I'll be like, oh,
I don't know, I love it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But you'll also tell me without trying to be mean.
You'll be like, do you have other objects?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I'm like, you just tell me.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I'll be like, that's so like prom But most of
the time I do think I have good style.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You do. We're different though. You're very like plain elegant,
whereas like I'll like tight, like body fitting outfits and
I realized you don't love that, so I'm like, wait,
I gotta think of like Michelle and her style. You
can't just be like you got a shop for the person, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, Well going back to you guys, because you both
still live together, Yes, you live at home.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yes, Angela is the older one.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
You're the stylish one, and so Betty you're just more
simple right.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Yeah, yeah, I like for me my style. Yeah, it's simple.
It's up to me, like, oh, we're a baggy T
shirt and like baggy pants all day. And Angela is
more like, let's do something tight, let's do some heels,
let's like more feminine. And I'm like, like, I don't care,
I don't care, like I like chill. Yeah, but yeah,
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it's it's interesting, like we kind of balance each other
out though we're.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So different yet, Like I mean, I think us three
balance each other. Yeah, you know what you're like the
middle ground of us.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, what I love about us is I feel like
we're kind of like sex in the city.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Like all three of us.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Are so different with such different personalities. So when we
go out to lunch or dinner, like it's just so
funny we crack up.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, very true.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, So I haven't actually seen you in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
We used to do like daily or weekly or monthly dinners,
but we haven't had the chance to do that just
because we both we've all been so busy.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, it's been crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
How is your dating life going?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
God, mine is like not happening, non existent as of now.
I'm just like overwhelmed. I think with like life and
work and just trying to get stuff in order. So
I just feel like dating now, I'm emotionally unavailable.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think you need to start putting yourself first.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
You never do, yeah, but I think before like putting
myself first would be kind of like doing something for
myself versus like going on a date.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I feel like you feel guilty if you ever like
put yourself first, Like.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Self care is something I need to do way more,
and I feel like I need to prioritize that before dating.
That makes sense, because how can I be available emotionally
on a date if I'm not even there for myself.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That's a healthy way to look at it.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, yeah, what about you, Angela.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I haven't been on a date in ten years, and honestly,
it used to affect me because all like ninety five
percent of my friends are married and have kids and
I'm thirty six. I'm just living life as it goes,
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and it doesn't affect me anymore because I've found my
peace and happiness like within me, So it's not like,
oh my god, I need to be married by next
year and have a child. Like sometimes you don't need
to do things in order. It's how whatever happens happens.
Like I could have a kid on my own. I
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don't need a husband, you know, because he can't be
traditional anymore. I think that's kind of like done.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I think so too, because we've been an.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Old school but and I like traditional ways.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But yeah, it's very interesting for you guys because you
guys are Armenian, very Armenian or that type of culture,
similar to the Persian culture. It's like the only thing
parents really care about is like who are you gonna marry,
When are you gonna get married, When are you gonna
have kids?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
And so I always kind of had that in the
back of my head. And so to me, I always
had a goal that I wanted to be married before thirty.
That was kind of like a check that I wanted,
which I did.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
And you know, but you.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Know what, I kind of really admired how your mom was.
I feel like the first person to tell you, like Michelle,
stop wasting your years and leave Jesse. Yeah, she wasn't like, oh,
you know, you have a daughter, like stick it out.
Continue Like usually moms will be like no, like this
(20:52):
is how it is. It's not greener on the other
side of the world. Yeah, especially like.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Like Middle Eastern mom or like you know, more conservative
traditional old school moms, or like what are you gonna
do divorce? Like what direction are you gonna go? What
are people gonna think? How are you gonna get married again?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
So it's kind of like stick it out and deal
with it versus.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Now, which is kind of like the advice we gave
you when you said I think I'm ready to leave,
and I.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Was like, are you sure.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I'm like, just try to work it out, be with him,
whereas Betty was kind of understanding your feelings more and
I was very much like Michelle, give it a chance,
like really scare him, make him understand you're gonna leave
if he doesn't change. Well.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I appreciated both your opinions and what I remember Betty
that you always kind of compared like what your family
was like and they weren't exactly happy, and you're like,
I wish my parents would have left.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Right, Yeah, I mean seeing, I mean that's what was
really like looking at your situation too. I think it
was very brave of you to do what you did,
because I know so many kids like who wish their
parents divorced, and they the thing, like the ways life
would have been different for them if they grew up
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as adults who their parents did divorce, it would have
been so much less toxicity in the house, less arguments,
like it just honestly changes the kids, a better relationship
with each parent separately, Like you're not hearing every day
like your dad did this, your mom did this. It's
so toxic, and like staying in that environment and growing
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up into an adult and constantly hearing that, especially for.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Us, because I think maybe that's why we're still single
and not.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Even to like we still live with our parents because
it's just the like cultural norm. So even till today,
like still hearing that. It's just so draining. It's so toxic,
and obviously there's gonna be some things about that that
is affecting our dating life and what kind of partners.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
We're looking for. Beddy will be like I won't tolerate that,
and then I'll be like, I mean, like this is it,
Like this is how it is, like you have to
deal with his stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, you're more accepting, like you're kind of stuck more
in that old school thing.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Like I won't stick with the guy if he's like
abusive and alcoholic, a drug head or anything.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
But like the little things, but they are kind of
big things.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Like my patience is there, whereas you're like, nah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Do you also think being in LA is a factor
like dating and such a busy.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I'm sure, but I don't know any better, Like we haven't.
I mean, I was dating my ex boyfriend was in Australia,
so that was a big step for me to like
go back and forth every month and a half two years.
And I actually like respect my parents for that, for
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allowing me to do that. And they knew it wasn't
going to work out because I'm the type that I
can't survive without my family, so they allowed me to
learn on my own through my mistakes that it wouldn't
work out.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
So I mean, I mean you have that personality though,
like yeah, I always tell her, like she'll be like
I want to do this, and I'm like, but you
know this is going to happen, and she's like, well,
I'm still going to do it anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, Like let me learn on my own way. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I feel like That's how I've always lived, right since
I can remember.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Right, But in Sydney, everyone was like twenty six and
like a CEO, already wanting to get married and have kids,
like guys, Whereas over here in LA they're into like
they're just like boys. I don't know, like let me
have the nice car, let me go to the like
most happening restaurant, and oh it's Thursday night, like this
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club or I don't know, Yeah, it's just like its
old yeah fast, Yeah, like every decade has its own
special time and you need to like accept the growth
and let go.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, well, I still believe in love. I found my
love again, Yes you do.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I think it's hard out there, but I think there
is somebody for everybody, and you have to make the effort.
And for you guys, I always say, like, you guys
are homebodies, so am I like, you have to go
out in order to meet people. It's not going to
happen if you just always stay home. So I'm constantly
encouraging you both because I want to see you guys
(25:54):
one day.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You actually do push us.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
To like get out of our comfort zone.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, I mean you you take us out of our
comfort zone a lot, like doing this podcasting the podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Or like well, thank you again, because again, yeah, this
is obvious.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah yeah, I just wanted people to get to know
who I am. I literally talk to you guys every
single day, whether it's text, messages, Instagram. We're having multiple
conversations on all platforms.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It'll be like laughing at a TikTok and then you'll
be like venting about something that bothered you that day
and I'm like okay. And then it'll be like, what
do you think about this outfit? And I'm like okay.
Three combos, autos.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
And all on different platforms like Instagram, text message, voice note.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah yeah, the voice notes infamous for that.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And Betty's kind of my therapist because you've studied so
much and you have an old soul.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah I do. Yeah, Betty's psychology comes in handy.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I mean yeah again, it's like The Sex and the
City like Triad. It's like the therapist, the stylist, and
like the main character guy.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
So how did you guys feel when you met Aaron
for the first time?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Trying to remember our I think it was as yeah,
oh yeah, Beddy and him clicked of course right away.
They were talking about dreams.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Oh yeah, oh yeah we were.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And I was like, whoa Aaron takes his He's tall, handsome,
and he takes his dreams very serious.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah, and Mozelle just kept like sipping on our margarite.
They're like mm hmmm. And Betty's like, well it means
this that you saw this in your dream and Aaron
was like going on and.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
It just kept continuing, and I'm like cool, like if
you're into this, let's let's dive in.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
But no, he was this sweetheart. He's like Jesse was charming,
but it's charms different. They're like you can't compare them
at all. They're all different.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And that's what's so funny to me. Like you went
from like a guy in like suits all day and
like loafers and like let's go hang out in Beverly
Hills and Aaron is like let's go high hike yeah,
and like have honey and like talk about a book.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
It's so different, which is kind of you.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah. Yeah, like being married to Jesse never changed you.
I feel like you didn't. You weren't into the fancy
like lifestyle as Jesse was.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I mean I liked it. Everybody I think is gonna
like it, But it wasn't like my motivation or I
had to have it. Like I could go to a
nice restaurant or I could have go to like a
hole in a wall place. It doesn't matter to me,
you know, if the food's good or if I'm with
good company, that's all that really.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Matters to me. Same yeah, same yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So all my friends really liked him, which I like,
that was a crazy time because we had just started
dating and I remember now we went to horses and
the following day, Aaron's dad passed away suddenly had a
heart attack. And actually that's I think what made our
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connection even stronger because you know, he was so close
to his dad. I was so close to my mom,
Like we were very close to our parents, and I've
never experienced something like that before, and so I was
just very supportive and like we were together day, night
and day, and I think that made our bond and
relationship so much stronger.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
But I mean, you guys went in with like some
real life trauma, baggage issues, baggage and not fighting. Yeah,
like you were going through divorce, you have a child,
and then he lost his dad, and then your mom
was six. It wasn't like sell what was your last date?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Like?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Right, it was very like real life.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
It was it was like shallow. I feel like you
guys were fresh and shit got real and like when
you go through like loss and grief, especially in a relationship,
you really see who that person is. Yeah, and how's
your partner coming for you in that time of need?
So yeah, I mean from what I saw, Aaron was
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there for you when your mom passed, you were there
for him when his dad passed. And yeah, I just
the compatibility I think too. It just from the beginning,
like you guys were on the same level.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I feel like even though Aaron is the youngest guy
you've dated, right, yeah, by far.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He's two years older than me. Jesse was eight and
a half years older than me. The X before Jesse
was like fourteen years older than me.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That was my biggest gap.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
How was that?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
It was good?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Did you ever feel like I'm too young or like
his energy was like old.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Or like no, my ex boyfriend was very young, attractive
or not young. He was like young, spirited, okay, and handsome,
you know, English from London, had a house in London,
lived in la He was very sophisticated, had a PhD.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Where'd you go to London often?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, that was the first time that I had traveled
to Europe. I was going back and forth in London.
A lot of people don't know this, And I was
just very mature. I think, like I can be immature
at times, a naive, but at the same time, like
I grew up quickly, and.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
So I see where Isabella gets it from.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Now, I guess you're right.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, age is just a number, is just how two
people are. I was very mature, so it was fine.
It just didn't work out at the end. And I'm like, dude,
I don't really want to go into detail about that.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It just didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
So I've been with a wide range, but Aaron is
definitely the youngest. There are little times where I can
see that he still has like a young spirit. But overall,
I think we're a really good match. You guys are
I do think like with everything you guys are like.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Hopeless romantic, like from the notebook. Yeah, it still feels
even your date nights or like what he'll plan for you,
it's just different special.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
He makes me feel very special and very seen and
like I've never had all of these feelings that I
still get, Like, I still feel that we're in the
honeymoon stage and we've been together almost a year and
a half later.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, Like with Aaron sometimes not that you ever get jealous,
but you'll get jealous. But with Jesse, when like you,
when we saw you at the beach, I was like, oh,
like she's gonna get like kind of annoyed by us
and be like were these girls talking to my husband?
And you were so sweet and you're like Hi, I'm like, oh, okay,
(33:15):
honest yeah, that was like a first for me. I
don't know are girls like that you?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I like, I were so sweet. I'm like, this is weird.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I had zero jealousy with Jesse, and I don't actually
know why. Maybe I do, Like I don't know, I
don't know what it was, but with him, I just
wasn't jealous.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I think I was so used to him.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Always being gone, being out talking to everybody that or
like we didn't we didn't have that connection.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You didn't even have that fear like, oh, he's cheating
on me right now. I'm sure at times you did,
but you would never bring that up to us, like
he's out, he's drinking, like he must be cheating, Like
that never went like you just I just think that
I disconnected.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I think that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And with Aaron, you have you're like a fricking hot firecracker.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
No, I'm not that bad, but I have.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Like what some of us maybe once a month and and
like you'll put me one.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
We could ask Eric.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I'll ask him next time. But yeah, he I guess
I am jealous now. And it's just because I do
love him so much and I do think he's like
a great catch. He's a great personality. I think I
think he's very handsome. So yeah, I'm learning a lot
about myself and I can be a little firecracker.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I think it's there's nothing wrong with that. It spices
it up.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yeah, I mean, it just shows that you're really invested.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I mean, doesn't Aaron get jealous.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
He does a little bit, a little bit here and there.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
But I think it's normal, and I think it's healthy
to be something jealous. And that's the thing, Like I
wasn't jealous at all in my past relationship, and I
don't think that was healthy at all.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Right, Yeah, and then you guys talk about it, you
learn what bothered him, what bothered you? No, I think
it's just it. It's needed.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Yeah, it's a little it's healthy, I guess, yeah, in
small doses.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, But about wedding, do you guys talk about that?
Do you think you'll have a big wedding or have
it very.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
We don't have like deep deep conversations, but we're both
on the same page. Like we I just moved in.
I've I've said that to some people. It moved in
a couple months ago. I lived on my own for
a year and it was just like the right time.
I think we were really strong and it was something
actually Isabella also wanted, we all wanted, so we moved
(35:44):
into his place. It's been great and obviously, like before
I moved in, it's like, you know, I'm not just
going to move in to move in, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yah.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Point is to have a future.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
And he's like, of course, like I completely agree with you,
and oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I mean you guys did take it fast. But also
like how he said, life gave you a lot of
like these obstacles together where you got through each step.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
So yeah, so that's the goal.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
He has made comments like, oh, I want a big wedding,
and you know, I kind of have been there, done that,
and you know, to me from my experience, like a
wedding can be so expensive even if you try to
do it like a small intimate everything adds up and
at the end of the day, I think that it's
(36:35):
more about the guests and you're hosting, and and it
goes by so fast, Like I would rather just take
like a couple of week vacation or like, you know,
just do something super super intimate like at the beach
or something like I don't want this full grand wedding whatsoever.
(36:56):
And to me, it just be like more intimate and
private to just do like us our best friends and
like immediate family.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Right, that's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I agree, And I host your bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I've never had a bachelorette. No, really, we never did that.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Jesse didn't do one either.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
We didn't do that.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Shocking. I would think he would want like he would
really want one. I don't know, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I never thought of it.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
And I wasn't like, oh, I want to go to
Vegas or Miami, Like, no, if I would have a
bachelorette like again, I would just want to go to Paris,
to Paris and go to a nice restaurant and like
enjoy the day.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yeah, I love how you still want to go to Paris,
Like I feel like other people would have such a
kind of bittersweet attitude. I was once proposed to there
and then we got divorced. I don't know if I
want to go back like old memories. Yeah, walking into
the rights.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Are you going to like remember that? Is it gonna
make your heart sink? Or you're just gonna with like
Aaron and be like I'm not phased by it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I don't know because I haven't really put myself in
that position yet. I want to have new experiences in
Paris with Aaron because we haven't done that, and it's
like it's an entire city. I'm not gonna not go
there because I was proposed there, of course, So.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I don't know how I'll feel.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
I've had little situations like that, but like again, he's
still part of my Life's Jesse's always going to be
in my life because we share Isabella and I'm human.
There's like moments where I have those feelings.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, you do have feelings. I think you're just so
like closed off and very much like I hate Jesse
or you know, you don't. You just get upset and
you want to be good with him for Isabella because
that's what matters. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I really think like one day you guys are just
going to.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Be like, oh yeah, Betty always says it.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I always say this, like down down, Like in the future,
I could just literally see you guys like having lunch
together casually and just being like, yeah, Isabella's doing so well,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
How's everything. I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
I just have this feeling like you guys are gonna
like have this vision.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, I just see it.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And I feel like you're pretty like psychic. Yeah, you
can call a lot of things out that will happen.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Like intuitive, I guess. Yeah, I just have a feeling,
I hope.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I mean, Aaron grew up in that type of environment,
like that's very normal to him. He had a dad
and stepdad and they always like Thanksgiving, they were all
together and they were all friends, and so he's like,
you know, it can happen and it's very normal to him,
and he's you know, I appreciate that because I don't
(39:47):
know if all men would be like that. So changing subjects.
I was at run Yan and I always have crazy
things happen.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
To me Rania, and now you do.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I didn't do anything, did you see?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I was hiking And then I got a FaceTime call.
I just sold a house to the YouTuber Mike Malick.
They call him Big Mike, and he was facetiming me.
He never face times me, so I answer it and
it's him and logan Paul Wow, and they're like giving.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Me this face. I'm like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
And they were watching Santa Barbara and they're like, oh
my god, this is insane. And then he's like, thank
you so much for selling my house. He's like, I've
been so busy, I haven't even thank you.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
That's sweet. Yeah, well I didn't know you guys had
a relationship like that. Yeah, we're in touch with your clients. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I think it's really important. You know, you don't just
sell a house and never talk to them again. It's like,
I build these relationships because you know one day he's
going to want to buy again, or he might know people.
And yeah, he's like the super funniest guy ever. I
love watching his YouTube and I just approved of the episode.
(41:05):
He just approved or he just thought like the whole
thing because he only knows us real estate related and
then professional level, very professional, and he doesn't know me
any other way. So it was just really funny to
get their reaction, and Logan was just looking at me like.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Oh my god, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah, so that's pretty cool, really cool.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
That is cool.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, I'm like, I think.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I should go to run Yan like I'll know.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yeah, I'm telling you guys go out and.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
About like a magical canyon.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Everybody goes there because it's like the perfect place.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
To run, and I mean I to go. Yeah, yeah,
I haven't gone as often. I used to go every
single day. Now I'm going about four.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Days a week. So it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
It is a lot, really, yeah, I mean I used
to go. I used to walk like fifteen thousand steps.
Now I'm doing like six seven thousand steps. That's not
that much, but it's still my good.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
You look amazing.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Thank you. I think I'm just happy and healthy.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Yeah, it's come from it, like starts from within, you know.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, that's what shows on your face. Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah. Thanks, Well, I think it's time for us to
go have lunch and maybe a margarita.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Margarita time.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, thank you guys for coming on, for having us.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yes, it was a blast.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
It was a blast.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Thank you. Thank you for having us. Honestly, like again,
like you really push us out of our comfort zone
and this was like the cherry on top.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Honestactly, pursuit of sassiness. We're always in the pursuit of
something and I always want everybody and I encourage my
friends people I don't know, like do something that you're
uncomfortable doing, because you're gonna thank yourself later.
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