June 6, 2023 • 34 mins
Experience only emboldens the group. The members of Electus per Deus become more entrenched in the cult of Cecilia Steyn. They refine their cold-blooded tactics and continue their killing spree. A new follower joins the growing cult with plans to infiltrate, peek behind the curtain, and see what EPD is really up to. Our host, Kurt Kubicek, meets one of the murderers in prison – and we hear a first hand account of a savage execution.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
School of Humans. This show follows the investigation of serial
murders and contains material that may be disturbing. Listener discretion advised.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Michaela Valentine, heart pounding, waits in the car for her
husband Zach. She stares at her reflection in the mirror.
In her blond wig and heavy makeup, she barely recognizes herself. Inside,
Zach carries out two fatal attacks on Natasha Berger and
her neighbor Joy Burnside. The plan was for Michaela to
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help him, but she couldn't bring herself to go through
with it. When the executions are complete, Zach flees from
the townhouse and runs toward the waiting car. He jumps
in next to his wife, his hands, his face, his
clothes all covered in blood. Zach and Michaela speed away
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from the scene, bolting across the darkened city. Zach calls
to check in with Mirinda. The job is done, he
tells her. Marinda hears Michaela crying in the background, and
orders them to get rid of the murder weapons and
report back immediately to the flat where Cecilia is waiting.
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When they arrive, Zach explains to Cecilia what happened and
how Michaela couldn't bring herself to kill joy Cecilia was
not pleased. LaRue and Marcel are ordered to scrub the
car clean of blood. Ria Grunivald rushes to Natasha's place
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as soon as she hears the tragic news. She has
to see for herself if things had actually gone this far.
Rhea watches the slack jawed as the bodies of Natasha
and Joy are carried out, both covered in white sheets
in the dark of night. No one recognizes Rihea, but
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the following day a witness comes forward. I heard screams
coming from Joy's home, she said. When I looked outside,
I saw a blond woman running from the house to
her car. That woman was Mikaela in a blonde wig.
But strangely, the witness tells the police with some certainty
that who she saw fleeing the murder scene was Rhea.
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As if things weren't bad enough, Rhea's life was about
to take yet another turn for the worse. She was
about to become the primary suspect from School of Humans
and iHeart Podcasts. This is Queen Havoc and her murder cult.
I'm your host, Kurt Kupchek episode three, Eyes of a Killer.
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In untangling the web of this case, we discover a
long list of bad actors, but we also encounter people
like Rhea, vilified for their good intentions. Among these well
intentioned individuals is the man we've been calling Luke. His
involvement with Cecilia Stein would come at a steep cost.
Luke is something of a vigilante. He met Cecilia and
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Electus Perdaz in twenty twelve as the murders were picking
up steam. His friend Aria introduced him to the Know
Your Enemy pamphlet, which piqued his interest.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The book's name was now your Enemy. So I convinced
a lot of people, how do you PreTect yourself if
you don't know are your enemy operates? Makes actually aren't
the same scenes? So I started reading this boon. I
didn't agree with anything.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
He shared his skepticism with Aria, so.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I told him, I've got all this questions. She told
me she'll take me to the person who read this book.
And that's when I met cecil Lasting for the first
time and Zach Valentine and Makai La.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Luke challenged Cecilia's ideas in person and strangely enough, she
seemed to enjoy it, bantering back and forth with him
but not providing any real answers. Luke remained unconvinced that
she was as cunning as she said she was, but
was intrigued by the group's reverence for her. But then,
only a couple of weeks after he came into Cecilia's orbit,
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people started dying.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
This One friend found me about a week later and
she told me and Natasha Burger and friend's been murdered.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
In his gut, he knew they were to blame.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I couldn't believe it. Something that don't make sense.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And so he decided to act, going.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
To my knees and I prayed and I told her
Lord he can use me. I will go into Cruge
if you can just partect me and I'll open up
this whole hole. And it's next.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Luke planned to conduct his own investigation. He would infiltrate
electus perdeis, posing as a devotee. He could get close
to them and confirm his suspicions. Then, once he had
hard evidence, he would go to the police. Luke tread
lightly at first, so that no one would suspect anything.
He needed to earn Secilia's trust, the rest would follow.
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Not aware of the malicious inner workings of EPD, Luke
began to spend time with some of the members socially,
Zach Valentine in particular, and up close. He took note
of how Cecilia played them all.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Anybody was extremely scaped of Cecilia, and that's how she
got everybody to listen to her and follow the instructions.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
She used fear and of course scripture. The story of
King David, who was told by God to destroy the Philistines,
worked especially well on Mirinda.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I remember she manipulated Miranda out of David. David killed
all the people, and the women, and the children and
the dogs. Everything must be killed, and that's how she
manipulated Miranda to participa the killings.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Cecilia reinterpreted biblical teachings to her likings so that members
believed that what they were doing was God's will, just
like so many Zelots throughout history who murdered in the
name of God. Cecilia would speak on behalf of the Almighty,
and who were they to argue against such divine authority?
That made Michaela's unwillingness to kill joy burnside, an affront
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to Cecilia and an act of existential defiance. Zach tried
to reassure Cecilia that Michaela was loyal and that she
could still be trusted, but Cecilia was unsparing. She berated
Michaela for not following through on the kill assigned to her,
and decided all of them Zach, Mirinda, Marcel, LaRue and
Michaela should all be better prepared for next time. In fact,
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they should practice. Luke wasn't yet deep enough into the
fold to be included in this macabre exercise. The core members, however,
arrived at Cecilia's flat one evening to find her in
the bedroom. Laid out under stackxa newspaper, was a boar's
head from the local butcher. She handed knives to each
of her followers and instructed them to have at it,
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a depraved rehearsal for killing a human. She watched for
a while and then left the room, returning a few
minutes later with an axe. While their blades were plunged
deeper and deeper into the boar's head, Cecilia fed her
followers stories of the conniving ways of Rhea and her
mentor Pastor Reginald Ben Dixon. He was the aggressor, she
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told them. He turned Rhea against them all he let
OTC to heard praying incorrectly, thereby forcing them to dispose
of Natasha. And he, according to Cecilia, had plagiarized her
Know Your Enemy pamphlet and repurposed it for an OTC course. Finally,
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Cecilia's devotees, breathless and bloody, surrounded the mangled pig's head,
ready for their next kill. This time it would be
Mirinda's turn to prove her loyalty. And this time we'll
hear about the murder.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
In her own words, no one ever screamed when I
killed him. They were dated in seconds.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Merenda Stein, guided by her undying loyalty to Cecilia, was
outraged at Pastor Reginald Ben Dixon's inequities. He had stolen
both Cecilia's intellectual property and Rhea's admiration. In her book
The Kruger's Dwarf Cult Killings, journalist Jana Marx details the
scene where Cecilia called an emergency meeting and informed them, quote,
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we have to take him out. This is war. We
are living in the end times and redg has turned
against God. What you're hearing now is a maximum security
correctional facility south of Johannesburg. It's popularly known as Sun City,
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after a famous holiday resort in South Africa's Northwest province.
The inmates ironically chose this name, implying that any time
spent there was the furthest thing from a holiday. It's
a kin to calling Riker's Island Disney.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
World with you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
When I entered the prison, I was fristed from head
to toe. I boarded a rickety old bus that took
us to the women's prison. Next, we slowed to a
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stop in front of a high razor wire fence that
surrounded a large brick building. The sun was out, there
was a bite in the wind. I followed a stream
of visitors off the bus and through layers of fence.
We were all frissed again and again. Each time I
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became more nervous. After what felt like an eternity, the
guards checked me in his curs who would check excitement
and fear course through me. I was about to come
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face to face with the greatest evil I had ever known,
Marinda Stein herself. Like with the first murder, the group
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heavily scouted at the location. Pastor Reginald ben Dixon lives
on a one way street. His house has a long driveway,
a security gate, and a surrounding cinder block wall. Mikayla
rents a car, LaRue replaces the license plate with a
stolen one, and Zach, Merinda, and Marcel pile in and
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had to rege his house. On the drive, fourteen year
old Marcel becomes suddenly nauseous. She asked them to pull over.
The murder squad decides that Marcel is too sick and
they all returned to Kruger's sturt. This was not a
good look for Marcel or Mikaela, for that matter. When
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Marcel got sick, it was Michaela who tended to her.
Over the past few years, Marcella and Michaela had bonded
while Marinda focused squarely on her duty to Cecilia. Michayla
became Marcel's sole ally and confidant. Marcel looked up to her.
Both were relieved that their deadly assignment was aboarded. That night, Thursday,
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August ninth, twenty twelve, Reginald ben Dixon receives a call
from Zach Valentine. Zach uses a fake name and says
he's seeking a spiritual counselor. He flatters him and says
Reg comes highly recommended. The two men make an appointment
to meet the following Monday at a local coffee shop.
Reg jots it down in his date book. On the
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day of the appointment, the thirteenth of August twenty twelve, Zach, Marian,
and Marcel make their way to Ben Dixon's home. They
call and ask for a rain check, assuming he would
be at home for a while, before making other plans.
The scouting mission conclude that Ben Dixon's wife would be
away until later that evening. About that same time, Ria
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Grunivald gets a text on her phone from a number
she doesn't recognize. Have you said your goodbyes to Reg?
I hope you did. Ria immediately forwards the message to
the police officer she's been in contact with, the same
cop who was a no show at the coffee shop
sting operation. Not Surprisingly, he doesn't respond. Ria tries calling,
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and yet again the police aren't there for her when
she needs them the most. Meanwhile, the novice assassins were
nearing Regg's house. MICHAELA. Was ordered to stay home for
this mission. She'd stay by Cecilia's side while the others
followed orders. Cecilia no longer trusted Mikayla to get the
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job done. Marcel, on the other hand, was not given
an option. Marinda made sure her daughter was there to
learn by example. Cecilia ordered Marcel to bring a video
came to record the killing. She wanted evidence of their devotion,
and she wanted to see reg Bend Dixon die. Interviewing
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Mirinda for this podcast meant giving her a platform. The
ethics of that concerned us quite a bit, But after
months of pouring over the facts of this case, we
were missing a critical piece. What on earth motivated these
seemingly normal people to become killers? I believe that talking
to her might provide more insight into Cecilia's mindset and
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the group dynamics she cultivated. I wanted to figure out
why Mirinda and the rest of EPD did what they
did and how they justified it in their own minds.
In the visiting area, there were about ten other inmates
facing their loved ones in an echoy and sterile room
with a folding table that held handmade crafts for sale,
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crocheted holders, and beat a jewelry, all made by inmates.
I walked past the tables and then heard a voice saying, Curt,
how are you there. She was the face I had
seen peering back at me, frozen in mugshots and courtroom photographs.
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She smiled at me and thanked me for coming. We
sat down on a long, wooden picnic bench in the
center of the room. I was now a foot away
face to face with Merinda Steyn. She was as nervous
as I was, and told me so. Honestly, I felt disarmed,
mostly by her politeness, her seemingly normal demeanor, but that
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light soon dimmed, clouded by who I knew her to be,
and that storm only grew as she started telling me
what happened with Ben Dixon. Now, as you can tell,
the audio quality of this interview was pretty rough, so
that an actor to read some of what Marinda shared
with us so that you can clearly understand her chilling words.
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I knew the interaction would be tense and a bit awkward,
but what I really didn't expect was how casually Mirinda
would talk about the act of taking someone's life, and
so brutally she was proud of what she'd done.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I had a bad child.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I had a bad child, did and he looked exactly
like my father Sam. He was such a trusting idiot.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
The kill team disguised themselves in police uniforms, their weapons
of choice knives and an axe. Marinda described calling Redge
from the front security gate using a burner phone. She
claimed they were detectives from the South African Police Service
who needed to speak with him about the recent murders
and a possible connection to his friend Ria Grunewald. Ben Dixon,
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of course, wanted to help with the investigation, so he
let the killers in.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
He was sort of a bit suspicious, and he was
sort of a bit suspicious, and then he started talking
to us, and he opened the gate for us, and
we're walking out like a long driveway.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Marinda came up with a ploy to come their way,
and why.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Don't we go into speaking?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Then I said to them, well why don't we go
and speak inside the house, you know, because now the
walls are high, but the neighbors would see.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
As the pastor and EPD walked up the front yard
toward Ben Dixon's home, Marinda and Zach locked eyes.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
So we went just around the bean, and we went
just around the bend, and he walked in front of us.
And then Zack didn't even wait for me. He just
started eating him over the head and he fell there
in front of us. So we were never even in
his house.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Zach got impatient and hit Bendixon over the head with
the back of the axe. They didn't even make it
into his home. Then Marinda joined in, stabbing him with
her fishing knife. Marcel fourteen years old, watches and muted
horror as this gruesome reality unfolds before her. Sitting there
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in her prison jumpsuit. Marinda twisted this into some distorted
form of grace. Well, person, I.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Believe in killing a person quickly.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I believe in killing a person quickly. No one ever
screamed when I killed them. They were dead within seconds.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Here's Christelle Boisen recalling Mirinda's court room testimony.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
She was explaining that between her and Zuk, while they
were busy with Rex Benedict and stabbing him and slashing him,
they actually got so excited that Zuck accidentally hit her
with the ex and she was telling him, hey, just
you know, stay clear. She was explaining this in.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Court Even when it was obvious that reg was dead,
Marinda continued to stab him. Her depravity was not only
proof of her loyalty to God and to Secilia, but
the result of some research.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
She says, she one time remember watching a documentary or something,
and they say that if you want to know if
someone is dead, you must look at this space on
the throat, and if the space stops throbbing, then you
know that the heart stopped pumping. And she was stabbing
rex Bena Dixon and waiting for this not to throb anymore,
and then she would know that he's dead.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
With their work done, they leave Regg's lifeless body on
the grass in the front yard, locking the security gate
on their way out. When they pull up at Casana Flats,
Mikaela is outside sitting in her car. Zach, still hyped
on adrenaline from his second murder, boast to his wife
about what they'd done. Marenda and Marcel follow behind, corroborating
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Zack's account of their kill like a hunting party celebrating
their conquest. Mikayla, numb with shock and careful not to
show any indication of fear or disapproval, forced a crooked
smile inside, though she trembled terrified at what her husband
had become a monster of his own making. At this point,
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I think it'll be helpful to sort out all the
police and detectives involved in the investigation of these murders.
It can get confusing since the police treated the first
couple of crimes as unrelated the car and church bombings,
Reggi's murder and the killing of Natasha and Joy, so
what became known as the Kruger's Dorf killings were investigated
in stages. It's hard to pinpoint the exact chain of
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events and police involvement at each stage. Many statements from
the cops make it sound as if they were there
the whole time, even if they were not. Everyone we
spoke to seems to have an opinion about how it
all went down. So here we go. From what we
can gather. Captain Venvick was aware of the cases surrounding
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the car and church bombings, and may have even been
briefed on them, But when we spoke to him, Benvick
told us that he wasn't officially assigned as a lead
investigator until after Pastor Reginald ben Dixon turned up dead.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
So it happened Onion of August that I was called
to ic a person was deceased, and that is actually
I became involved in this guys.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Then there's his associate, Colonel Henny Diager, a career cop
with a brooding, tony soprano type presence. Colonel Diyager had
been part of the investigation team since the car bombing incidents, assisting.
We think it's not totally clear when exactly Diyager became
part of this investigation, but he's a major player and
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would soon become a pebble in the shoe of the
detectives seeking truth and justice. Many of the facts surrounding
both the Yager and Vinvick's involvement in the Cecilia Stein
case remain opaque. Then there's Detective Susette Knotse, graceful and bold,
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she is called in a bit later, followed by the
brazen Detective Ben Boisen and a team of seasoned investigators.
Both Detective Susette Knotse and Ben Boysen each had to
re examine a string of suspicious events and reconsider the
evidence from every angle, essentially rebuild the case and track
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where and how it all began. The other two law
enforcement officials are Colonel Kobas Yonker, Suzette's mentor, who started
the Occult Related Crimes unit, and Colonel Christelle Boisen, a
well respected officer in the South South African Police Service.
She remains the acting Operational overhead Commander for the West
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Rand District. She's also married to Ben and they often
help each other out with cases. So here we are
August thirteenth, twenty twelve. Pastor Reginald ben Dixon's body lies
on the grass. It's a horrifying scene. Detective Sussette Canotze
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recalls the crime scene photos.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
He was hacked from behind. When he turned around, he
was hacked from the front.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The pastor had axe wounds to the back of his
head and had been stabbed more than ten times on
his chest and Torso here's Captain Johann Benvick.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
On the scene. It was one of the most gruesome
motives which I've seen in the even thirty four years
in this Athrican Police Service.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Standing there in Ben Dixon's front yard, Captain van Vick
suppose met Colonel Di Yager for the first time.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
There was another policeman that arrived on the scene of
Colonel Dia. He said that he was from the occult
unit of the reservice. I've never met him before. He
then informed me that the murder had some sort of
occult connection.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Here is where the window of truth begins to blur.
Though according to Yana Marx, who was present at all
of the court proceedings, both the Yager and Van Vick
had been at least adjacent to the carbomb investigations. Colonel
di Yager may have even been assisting on them, so
it's very likely they would have met before. The other
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strange thing is that Colonel di Yager was brought on
as a consultant to assess the potential for ritual murder
in the case of Natasha Berger and Joy Burnside, even
though their murders were technically outside of his jurisdiction. He
was reportedly an expert on the occult. The Yager has
bravado a man's any room he finds himself in any
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crime scene too. His arrival on the scene of Ben
Dixon's murder was kind of like what we've seen in
movies when the FBI shows up and takes over, but
in South Africa, the case remains in the hands of
the lead investigating officer, which is now then Vick. The
Yager was confident that Ben Dixon's murder was a ritualistic slaying,
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the work of a Satanic cult, and likely related to
the previous killing of Joy and Natasha detectives, who said
Canotse and Ben Boyson, on the other hand, both believe
that an under resourced police department coupled with the nationwide
fear of the occult often resulted in a rush to judgment,
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and that dynamic resulted in poor police work, especially when
a crime aligned so neatly with the biases born of
their imagined fears.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The two invesiguiding officers working on the chist concentrated more
on the Syitanism side, and they totally lost focus on
the actual murders that needs to be investigated, which actually, yes,
it was part of the story, but that wasn't why
the murders took place.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
The yager argued that there should have been more blood
on the scene, given the brutality of Ben Dixon's wounds.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
He was saying, no, there was a lot of blood,
and the blood just went Missy, where's all the blood?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
The Yager told his team that whoever committed this murder
must have consumed the blood, a clear mark of ceremony.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
So then he said, no, no, no, no, somebody must
have drank it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
The police worked earnestly with the yager's theory that this
was the grizzly act of satan worshiping blood drinkers. However,
Detective Susette thought it was obvious where the blood had gone.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Now that person is laying on the grass. So it
went into the grass and sorted by the gross us
that is where it went. Nobody drank it.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
In other words, all the satanism stuff was nothing more
than a powerful distraction.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You have to follow facts.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
The facts was right in front of them, but their
attention was drawn to sensation, dragging their attention in the
sensational route, and you can't investigate like that.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Ben Poison, also looking at this retroactively, agrees that this
was a huge mistake.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
And that's why the twenty twelve meters were never solved.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
They were investigating satanism.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Satanism is not a crime. You investigate the crime. So
clearly the police started off on the wrong track. In fact,
they began to suspect that it was actually Ria who
is behind it all.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
I regarded Riochronvode is also a person that just was
legitimate and just wanted to help the people and assist
the people. But because all of the these things that
escalated at the latest stage, I also became suspicious of According.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
To Reginald Ben Dixon's phone records, Rhea had an appointment
with him on the day he was murdered. When the
police confronted her about this, she said it must be
the Satanists impersonating her, and that's when she decided to
find a lawyer. Because of this scheduled meeting and the
fact that she was connected to both Reginald Ben Dixon
and Natasha Berger, Rhea now officially became the primary suspect.
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They reached out to Ria's old mentor fhavinga for comment
havinga mentions a Colonel X here he means colonel the yager.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
I got a colonel from the SIPs contacting me who said, listen,
I need to speak to you. There's been murders. It's
occult related. It's in Krugerdosdorp area, connected to overcomers in
christ And I say, whoao overcomers in Christ? Yes, Krnival
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And you know it was that moment. It was that shock,
it was that disbelief.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
No, this gon't be when we spoke to him, there
was still an open investigation into police misconduct, thus our
use of Colonel X. More on that post mortem investigation
in a later episode. At this moment in time, havinga
knew right away that the police must be barking up
the wrong tree. They were ignoring the facts that were
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staring them in the face, preferring to focus on the
illusions from a now antiquated satanic panic. I say to.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Colonel x'sit, Colonel X, your suspect is Cecilia Stein. Please
follow her, kick her. That's your man suspect.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But the yager wasn't convinced of Rhea's innocence until it
became clear as day. Rhea's new lawyer told her to
document her whereabouts every day so that moving forward, she
could always prove her innocence. But right after Ben Dixon's murder,
the police confiscated Rhea's cell phones, hard drives, and laptop,
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disconnecting Riha from the world.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
A big breakthrough came when on the morning of fest
at Ben Dixon's funeral.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Ria woke up on the morning at pastor Reginald Ben
Dixon's funeral. She stepped out onto her porch and felt
the sun on her face. She looked down and found
a parcel waiting at her feet.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Ria found me and she said that she found a
beckage in front of a door. Beckage was repped. It
was some sort of meat.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Rhonnfolded the damn newspaper. Inside was a large chunk of
bloody meat.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Pinned to it was another note leta written in blockwoods,
look what the doggies lift you've of Richel something to
that effect.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
The note read, look what the dogs have left you
of your precious past her. The detectives now had to
let go of their pet theories that either Satanists or
Rhea were to blame for the murders. Now they were
forced to consider the case with fresh eyes. On top
of that, the haphazard criminals from EPD had fumbled again.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Fingerprints was found on the letta that repped this piece
of meats.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Once again, police found fingerprints.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I took the fingerprints, and the fingerprints indeed belonged to
Moderndas think.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Then Vic took the opportunity to bring in everyone he
could from EPD. The police had all of them in custody,
even Secilia. But despite all the evidence and the possible
motives pointing to Mirinda and Cecilia as the culprits, both
were released from police custody. In fact, all the members
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of EPD were let off the hook. Before we go,
there is one other police officer you should know about.
He didn't work on this case, at least not in
the way the others did. But he is the reason
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Ben Dixon's attackers wore police uniforms, the reason Cecilia was
never worried about them getting caught.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
She was extremely confident that nothing will happen to them.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
She was constantly telling them, don't worry. We know the cops.
They will do nothing.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
This other officer, his name was drees Stein and he
was Cecilia's husband.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Even just see us responsor to the police, So do
you trust?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
On the next episode of Queen Havoc.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
She came to realize God will never ask you to
murder anybody.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
So that there was styles where they used to study.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
She likes to provoke. Then again said when.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
She said she's going to the police thing the publix,
she ended.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Up date the batting, the read board, the wall and
the roof was full of blood.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Queen Havoc in Her Murder Cult is a production of
Schooly Humans and iHeart Podcasts. Queen Havoc is hosted and
created by me Kurt Kupachick, produced and written by Jennifer Takini,
Julia Chriscau and Kurt Kupachick. Lead producer is Julia Chriskau.
Story editor is Saren Burnett. Senior producer is Amelia Brock.
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sound design and scoring by Jesse Niswanger. Associate producers are
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to thank all of those who so generously welcomed us
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respect their privacy. If you or someone you know has
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Michaela Valentine, heart pounding, waits in the car for her
husband Zach. She stares at her reflection in the mirror.
In her blond wig and heavy makeup, she barely recognizes herself. Inside,
Zach carries out two fatal attacks on Natasha Berger and
her neighbor Joy Burnside. The plan was for Michaela to
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help him, but she couldn't bring herself to go through
with it. When the executions are complete, Zach flees from
the townhouse and runs toward the waiting car. He jumps
in next to his wife, his hands, his face, his
clothes all covered in blood. Zach and Michaela speed away
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from the scene, bolting across the darkened city. Zach calls
to check in with Mirinda. The job is done, he
tells her. Marinda hears Michaela crying in the background, and
orders them to get rid of the murder weapons and
report back immediately to the flat where Cecilia is waiting.
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When they arrive, Zach explains to Cecilia what happened and
how Michaela couldn't bring herself to kill joy Cecilia was
not pleased. LaRue and Marcel are ordered to scrub the
car clean of blood. Ria Grunivald rushes to Natasha's place
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as soon as she hears the tragic news. She has
to see for herself if things had actually gone this far.
Rhea watches the slack jawed as the bodies of Natasha
and Joy are carried out, both covered in white sheets
in the dark of night. No one recognizes Rihea, but
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the following day a witness comes forward. I heard screams
coming from Joy's home, she said. When I looked outside,
I saw a blond woman running from the house to
her car. That woman was Mikaela in a blonde wig.
But strangely, the witness tells the police with some certainty
that who she saw fleeing the murder scene was Rhea.
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As if things weren't bad enough, Rhea's life was about
to take yet another turn for the worse. She was
about to become the primary suspect from School of Humans
and iHeart Podcasts. This is Queen Havoc and her murder cult.
I'm your host, Kurt Kupchek episode three, Eyes of a Killer.
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In untangling the web of this case, we discover a
long list of bad actors, but we also encounter people
like Rhea, vilified for their good intentions. Among these well
intentioned individuals is the man we've been calling Luke. His
involvement with Cecilia Stein would come at a steep cost.
Luke is something of a vigilante. He met Cecilia and
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Electus Perdaz in twenty twelve as the murders were picking
up steam. His friend Aria introduced him to the Know
Your Enemy pamphlet, which piqued his interest.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The book's name was now your Enemy. So I convinced
a lot of people, how do you PreTect yourself if
you don't know are your enemy operates? Makes actually aren't
the same scenes? So I started reading this boon. I
didn't agree with anything.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
He shared his skepticism with Aria, so.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I told him, I've got all this questions. She told
me she'll take me to the person who read this book.
And that's when I met cecil Lasting for the first
time and Zach Valentine and Makai La.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Luke challenged Cecilia's ideas in person and strangely enough, she
seemed to enjoy it, bantering back and forth with him
but not providing any real answers. Luke remained unconvinced that
she was as cunning as she said she was, but
was intrigued by the group's reverence for her. But then,
only a couple of weeks after he came into Cecilia's orbit,
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people started dying.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
This One friend found me about a week later and
she told me and Natasha Burger and friend's been murdered.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
In his gut, he knew they were to blame.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I couldn't believe it. Something that don't make sense.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And so he decided to act, going.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
To my knees and I prayed and I told her
Lord he can use me. I will go into Cruge
if you can just partect me and I'll open up
this whole hole. And it's next.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Luke planned to conduct his own investigation. He would infiltrate
electus perdeis, posing as a devotee. He could get close
to them and confirm his suspicions. Then, once he had
hard evidence, he would go to the police. Luke tread
lightly at first, so that no one would suspect anything.
He needed to earn Secilia's trust, the rest would follow.
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Not aware of the malicious inner workings of EPD, Luke
began to spend time with some of the members socially,
Zach Valentine in particular, and up close. He took note
of how Cecilia played them all.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Anybody was extremely scaped of Cecilia, and that's how she
got everybody to listen to her and follow the instructions.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
She used fear and of course scripture. The story of
King David, who was told by God to destroy the Philistines,
worked especially well on Mirinda.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I remember she manipulated Miranda out of David. David killed
all the people, and the women, and the children and
the dogs. Everything must be killed, and that's how she
manipulated Miranda to participa the killings.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Cecilia reinterpreted biblical teachings to her likings so that members
believed that what they were doing was God's will, just
like so many Zelots throughout history who murdered in the
name of God. Cecilia would speak on behalf of the Almighty,
and who were they to argue against such divine authority?
That made Michaela's unwillingness to kill joy burnside, an affront
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to Cecilia and an act of existential defiance. Zach tried
to reassure Cecilia that Michaela was loyal and that she
could still be trusted, but Cecilia was unsparing. She berated
Michaela for not following through on the kill assigned to her,
and decided all of them Zach, Mirinda, Marcel, LaRue and
Michaela should all be better prepared for next time. In fact,
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they should practice. Luke wasn't yet deep enough into the
fold to be included in this macabre exercise. The core members, however,
arrived at Cecilia's flat one evening to find her in
the bedroom. Laid out under stackxa newspaper, was a boar's
head from the local butcher. She handed knives to each
of her followers and instructed them to have at it,
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a depraved rehearsal for killing a human. She watched for
a while and then left the room, returning a few
minutes later with an axe. While their blades were plunged
deeper and deeper into the boar's head, Cecilia fed her
followers stories of the conniving ways of Rhea and her
mentor Pastor Reginald Ben Dixon. He was the aggressor, she
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told them. He turned Rhea against them all he let
OTC to heard praying incorrectly, thereby forcing them to dispose
of Natasha. And he, according to Cecilia, had plagiarized her
Know Your Enemy pamphlet and repurposed it for an OTC course. Finally,
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Cecilia's devotees, breathless and bloody, surrounded the mangled pig's head,
ready for their next kill. This time it would be
Mirinda's turn to prove her loyalty. And this time we'll
hear about the murder.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
In her own words, no one ever screamed when I
killed him. They were dated in seconds.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Merenda Stein, guided by her undying loyalty to Cecilia, was
outraged at Pastor Reginald Ben Dixon's inequities. He had stolen
both Cecilia's intellectual property and Rhea's admiration. In her book
The Kruger's Dwarf Cult Killings, journalist Jana Marx details the
scene where Cecilia called an emergency meeting and informed them, quote,
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we have to take him out. This is war. We
are living in the end times and redg has turned
against God. What you're hearing now is a maximum security
correctional facility south of Johannesburg. It's popularly known as Sun City,
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after a famous holiday resort in South Africa's Northwest province.
The inmates ironically chose this name, implying that any time
spent there was the furthest thing from a holiday. It's
a kin to calling Riker's Island Disney.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
World with you.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
When I entered the prison, I was fristed from head
to toe. I boarded a rickety old bus that took
us to the women's prison. Next, we slowed to a
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stop in front of a high razor wire fence that
surrounded a large brick building. The sun was out, there
was a bite in the wind. I followed a stream
of visitors off the bus and through layers of fence.
We were all frissed again and again. Each time I
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became more nervous. After what felt like an eternity, the
guards checked me in his curs who would check excitement
and fear course through me. I was about to come
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face to face with the greatest evil I had ever known,
Marinda Stein herself. Like with the first murder, the group
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heavily scouted at the location. Pastor Reginald ben Dixon lives
on a one way street. His house has a long driveway,
a security gate, and a surrounding cinder block wall. Mikayla
rents a car, LaRue replaces the license plate with a
stolen one, and Zach, Merinda, and Marcel pile in and
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had to rege his house. On the drive, fourteen year
old Marcel becomes suddenly nauseous. She asked them to pull over.
The murder squad decides that Marcel is too sick and
they all returned to Kruger's sturt. This was not a
good look for Marcel or Mikaela, for that matter. When
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Marcel got sick, it was Michaela who tended to her.
Over the past few years, Marcella and Michaela had bonded
while Marinda focused squarely on her duty to Cecilia. Michayla
became Marcel's sole ally and confidant. Marcel looked up to her.
Both were relieved that their deadly assignment was aboarded. That night, Thursday,
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August ninth, twenty twelve, Reginald ben Dixon receives a call
from Zach Valentine. Zach uses a fake name and says
he's seeking a spiritual counselor. He flatters him and says
Reg comes highly recommended. The two men make an appointment
to meet the following Monday at a local coffee shop.
Reg jots it down in his date book. On the
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day of the appointment, the thirteenth of August twenty twelve, Zach, Marian,
and Marcel make their way to Ben Dixon's home. They
call and ask for a rain check, assuming he would
be at home for a while, before making other plans.
The scouting mission conclude that Ben Dixon's wife would be
away until later that evening. About that same time, Ria
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Grunivald gets a text on her phone from a number
she doesn't recognize. Have you said your goodbyes to Reg?
I hope you did. Ria immediately forwards the message to
the police officer she's been in contact with, the same
cop who was a no show at the coffee shop
sting operation. Not Surprisingly, he doesn't respond. Ria tries calling,
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and yet again the police aren't there for her when
she needs them the most. Meanwhile, the novice assassins were
nearing Regg's house. MICHAELA. Was ordered to stay home for
this mission. She'd stay by Cecilia's side while the others
followed orders. Cecilia no longer trusted Mikayla to get the
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job done. Marcel, on the other hand, was not given
an option. Marinda made sure her daughter was there to
learn by example. Cecilia ordered Marcel to bring a video
came to record the killing. She wanted evidence of their devotion,
and she wanted to see reg Bend Dixon die. Interviewing
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Mirinda for this podcast meant giving her a platform. The
ethics of that concerned us quite a bit, But after
months of pouring over the facts of this case, we
were missing a critical piece. What on earth motivated these
seemingly normal people to become killers? I believe that talking
to her might provide more insight into Cecilia's mindset and
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the group dynamics she cultivated. I wanted to figure out
why Mirinda and the rest of EPD did what they
did and how they justified it in their own minds.
In the visiting area, there were about ten other inmates
facing their loved ones in an echoy and sterile room
with a folding table that held handmade crafts for sale,
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crocheted holders, and beat a jewelry, all made by inmates.
I walked past the tables and then heard a voice saying, Curt,
how are you there. She was the face I had
seen peering back at me, frozen in mugshots and courtroom photographs.
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She smiled at me and thanked me for coming. We
sat down on a long, wooden picnic bench in the
center of the room. I was now a foot away
face to face with Merinda Steyn. She was as nervous
as I was, and told me so. Honestly, I felt disarmed,
mostly by her politeness, her seemingly normal demeanor, but that
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light soon dimmed, clouded by who I knew her to be,
and that storm only grew as she started telling me
what happened with Ben Dixon. Now, as you can tell,
the audio quality of this interview was pretty rough, so
that an actor to read some of what Marinda shared
with us so that you can clearly understand her chilling words.
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I knew the interaction would be tense and a bit awkward,
but what I really didn't expect was how casually Mirinda
would talk about the act of taking someone's life, and
so brutally she was proud of what she'd done.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I had a bad child.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I had a bad child, did and he looked exactly
like my father Sam. He was such a trusting idiot.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
The kill team disguised themselves in police uniforms, their weapons
of choice knives and an axe. Marinda described calling Redge
from the front security gate using a burner phone. She
claimed they were detectives from the South African Police Service
who needed to speak with him about the recent murders
and a possible connection to his friend Ria Grunewald. Ben Dixon,
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of course, wanted to help with the investigation, so he
let the killers in.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
He was sort of a bit suspicious, and he was
sort of a bit suspicious, and then he started talking
to us, and he opened the gate for us, and
we're walking out like a long driveway.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Marinda came up with a ploy to come their way,
and why.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Don't we go into speaking?
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Then I said to them, well why don't we go
and speak inside the house, you know, because now the
walls are high, but the neighbors would see.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
As the pastor and EPD walked up the front yard
toward Ben Dixon's home, Marinda and Zach locked eyes.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
So we went just around the bean, and we went
just around the bend, and he walked in front of us.
And then Zack didn't even wait for me. He just
started eating him over the head and he fell there
in front of us. So we were never even in
his house.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Zach got impatient and hit Bendixon over the head with
the back of the axe. They didn't even make it
into his home. Then Marinda joined in, stabbing him with
her fishing knife. Marcel fourteen years old, watches and muted
horror as this gruesome reality unfolds before her. Sitting there
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in her prison jumpsuit. Marinda twisted this into some distorted
form of grace. Well, person, I.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Believe in killing a person quickly.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
I believe in killing a person quickly. No one ever
screamed when I killed them. They were dead within seconds.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Here's Christelle Boisen recalling Mirinda's court room testimony.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
She was explaining that between her and Zuk, while they
were busy with Rex Benedict and stabbing him and slashing him,
they actually got so excited that Zuck accidentally hit her
with the ex and she was telling him, hey, just
you know, stay clear. She was explaining this in.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Court Even when it was obvious that reg was dead,
Marinda continued to stab him. Her depravity was not only
proof of her loyalty to God and to Secilia, but
the result of some research.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
She says, she one time remember watching a documentary or something,
and they say that if you want to know if
someone is dead, you must look at this space on
the throat, and if the space stops throbbing, then you
know that the heart stopped pumping. And she was stabbing
rex Bena Dixon and waiting for this not to throb anymore,
and then she would know that he's dead.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
With their work done, they leave Regg's lifeless body on
the grass in the front yard, locking the security gate
on their way out. When they pull up at Casana Flats,
Mikaela is outside sitting in her car. Zach, still hyped
on adrenaline from his second murder, boast to his wife
about what they'd done. Marenda and Marcel follow behind, corroborating
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Zack's account of their kill like a hunting party celebrating
their conquest. Mikayla, numb with shock and careful not to
show any indication of fear or disapproval, forced a crooked
smile inside, though she trembled terrified at what her husband
had become a monster of his own making. At this point,
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I think it'll be helpful to sort out all the
police and detectives involved in the investigation of these murders.
It can get confusing since the police treated the first
couple of crimes as unrelated the car and church bombings,
Reggi's murder and the killing of Natasha and Joy, so
what became known as the Kruger's Dorf killings were investigated
in stages. It's hard to pinpoint the exact chain of
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events and police involvement at each stage. Many statements from
the cops make it sound as if they were there
the whole time, even if they were not. Everyone we
spoke to seems to have an opinion about how it
all went down. So here we go. From what we
can gather. Captain Venvick was aware of the cases surrounding
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the car and church bombings, and may have even been
briefed on them, But when we spoke to him, Benvick
told us that he wasn't officially assigned as a lead
investigator until after Pastor Reginald ben Dixon turned up dead.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
So it happened Onion of August that I was called
to ic a person was deceased, and that is actually
I became involved in this guys.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Then there's his associate, Colonel Henny Diager, a career cop
with a brooding, tony soprano type presence. Colonel Diyager had
been part of the investigation team since the car bombing incidents, assisting.
We think it's not totally clear when exactly Diyager became
part of this investigation, but he's a major player and
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would soon become a pebble in the shoe of the
detectives seeking truth and justice. Many of the facts surrounding
both the Yager and Vinvick's involvement in the Cecilia Stein
case remain opaque. Then there's Detective Susette Knotse, graceful and bold,
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she is called in a bit later, followed by the
brazen Detective Ben Boisen and a team of seasoned investigators.
Both Detective Susette Knotse and Ben Boysen each had to
re examine a string of suspicious events and reconsider the
evidence from every angle, essentially rebuild the case and track
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where and how it all began. The other two law
enforcement officials are Colonel Kobas Yonker, Suzette's mentor, who started
the Occult Related Crimes unit, and Colonel Christelle Boisen, a
well respected officer in the South South African Police Service.
She remains the acting Operational overhead Commander for the West
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Rand District. She's also married to Ben and they often
help each other out with cases. So here we are
August thirteenth, twenty twelve. Pastor Reginald ben Dixon's body lies
on the grass. It's a horrifying scene. Detective Sussette Canotze
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recalls the crime scene photos.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
He was hacked from behind. When he turned around, he
was hacked from the front.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
The pastor had axe wounds to the back of his
head and had been stabbed more than ten times on
his chest and Torso here's Captain Johann Benvick.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
On the scene. It was one of the most gruesome
motives which I've seen in the even thirty four years
in this Athrican Police Service.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Standing there in Ben Dixon's front yard, Captain van Vick
suppose met Colonel Di Yager for the first time.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
There was another policeman that arrived on the scene of
Colonel Dia. He said that he was from the occult
unit of the reservice. I've never met him before. He
then informed me that the murder had some sort of
occult connection.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Here is where the window of truth begins to blur.
Though according to Yana Marx, who was present at all
of the court proceedings, both the Yager and Van Vick
had been at least adjacent to the carbomb investigations. Colonel
di Yager may have even been assisting on them, so
it's very likely they would have met before. The other
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strange thing is that Colonel di Yager was brought on
as a consultant to assess the potential for ritual murder
in the case of Natasha Berger and Joy Burnside, even
though their murders were technically outside of his jurisdiction. He
was reportedly an expert on the occult. The Yager has
bravado a man's any room he finds himself in any
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crime scene too. His arrival on the scene of Ben
Dixon's murder was kind of like what we've seen in
movies when the FBI shows up and takes over, but
in South Africa, the case remains in the hands of
the lead investigating officer, which is now then Vick. The
Yager was confident that Ben Dixon's murder was a ritualistic slaying,
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the work of a Satanic cult, and likely related to
the previous killing of Joy and Natasha detectives, who said
Canotse and Ben Boyson, on the other hand, both believe
that an under resourced police department coupled with the nationwide
fear of the occult often resulted in a rush to judgment,
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and that dynamic resulted in poor police work, especially when
a crime aligned so neatly with the biases born of
their imagined fears.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The two invesiguiding officers working on the chist concentrated more
on the Syitanism side, and they totally lost focus on
the actual murders that needs to be investigated, which actually, yes,
it was part of the story, but that wasn't why
the murders took place.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
The yager argued that there should have been more blood
on the scene, given the brutality of Ben Dixon's wounds.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
He was saying, no, there was a lot of blood,
and the blood just went Missy, where's all the blood?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
The Yager told his team that whoever committed this murder
must have consumed the blood, a clear mark of ceremony.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
So then he said, no, no, no, no, somebody must
have drank it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
The police worked earnestly with the yager's theory that this
was the grizzly act of satan worshiping blood drinkers. However,
Detective Susette thought it was obvious where the blood had gone.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Now that person is laying on the grass. So it
went into the grass and sorted by the gross us
that is where it went. Nobody drank it.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
In other words, all the satanism stuff was nothing more
than a powerful distraction.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You have to follow facts.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
The facts was right in front of them, but their
attention was drawn to sensation, dragging their attention in the
sensational route, and you can't investigate like that.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Ben Poison, also looking at this retroactively, agrees that this
was a huge mistake.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
And that's why the twenty twelve meters were never solved.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
They were investigating satanism.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Satanism is not a crime. You investigate the crime. So
clearly the police started off on the wrong track. In fact,
they began to suspect that it was actually Ria who
is behind it all.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
I regarded Riochronvode is also a person that just was
legitimate and just wanted to help the people and assist
the people. But because all of the these things that
escalated at the latest stage, I also became suspicious of According.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
To Reginald Ben Dixon's phone records, Rhea had an appointment
with him on the day he was murdered. When the
police confronted her about this, she said it must be
the Satanists impersonating her, and that's when she decided to
find a lawyer. Because of this scheduled meeting and the
fact that she was connected to both Reginald Ben Dixon
and Natasha Berger, Rhea now officially became the primary suspect.
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They reached out to Ria's old mentor fhavinga for comment
havinga mentions a Colonel X here he means colonel the yager.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
I got a colonel from the SIPs contacting me who said, listen,
I need to speak to you. There's been murders. It's
occult related. It's in Krugerdosdorp area, connected to overcomers in
christ And I say, whoao overcomers in Christ? Yes, Krnival
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And you know it was that moment. It was that shock,
it was that disbelief.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
No, this gon't be when we spoke to him, there
was still an open investigation into police misconduct, thus our
use of Colonel X. More on that post mortem investigation
in a later episode. At this moment in time, havinga
knew right away that the police must be barking up
the wrong tree. They were ignoring the facts that were
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staring them in the face, preferring to focus on the
illusions from a now antiquated satanic panic. I say to.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Colonel x'sit, Colonel X, your suspect is Cecilia Stein. Please
follow her, kick her. That's your man suspect.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But the yager wasn't convinced of Rhea's innocence until it
became clear as day. Rhea's new lawyer told her to
document her whereabouts every day so that moving forward, she
could always prove her innocence. But right after Ben Dixon's murder,
the police confiscated Rhea's cell phones, hard drives, and laptop,
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disconnecting Riha from the world.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
A big breakthrough came when on the morning of fest
at Ben Dixon's funeral.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Ria woke up on the morning at pastor Reginald Ben
Dixon's funeral. She stepped out onto her porch and felt
the sun on her face. She looked down and found
a parcel waiting at her feet.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Ria found me and she said that she found a
beckage in front of a door. Beckage was repped. It
was some sort of meat.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Rhonnfolded the damn newspaper. Inside was a large chunk of
bloody meat.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Pinned to it was another note leta written in blockwoods,
look what the doggies lift you've of Richel something to
that effect.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
The note read, look what the dogs have left you
of your precious past her. The detectives now had to
let go of their pet theories that either Satanists or
Rhea were to blame for the murders. Now they were
forced to consider the case with fresh eyes. On top
of that, the haphazard criminals from EPD had fumbled again.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Fingerprints was found on the letta that repped this piece
of meats.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Once again, police found fingerprints.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I took the fingerprints, and the fingerprints indeed belonged to
Moderndas think.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Then Vic took the opportunity to bring in everyone he
could from EPD. The police had all of them in custody,
even Secilia. But despite all the evidence and the possible
motives pointing to Mirinda and Cecilia as the culprits, both
were released from police custody. In fact, all the members
(31:50):
of EPD were let off the hook. Before we go,
there is one other police officer you should know about.
He didn't work on this case, at least not in
the way the others did. But he is the reason
(32:11):
Ben Dixon's attackers wore police uniforms, the reason Cecilia was
never worried about them getting caught.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
She was extremely confident that nothing will happen to them.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
She was constantly telling them, don't worry. We know the cops.
They will do nothing.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
This other officer, his name was drees Stein and he
was Cecilia's husband.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Even just see us responsor to the police, So do
you trust?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
On the next episode of Queen Havoc.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
She came to realize God will never ask you to
murder anybody.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
So that there was styles where they used to study.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
She likes to provoke. Then again said when.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
She said she's going to the police thing the publix,
she ended.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Up date the batting, the read board, the wall and
the roof was full of blood.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Queen Havoc in Her Murder Cult is a production of
Schooly Humans and iHeart Podcasts. Queen Havoc is hosted and
created by me Kurt Kupachick, produced and written by Jennifer Takini,
Julia Chriscau and Kurt Kupachick. Lead producer is Julia Chriskau.
Story editor is Saren Burnett. Senior producer is Amelia Brock.
(33:32):
Production manager is Daisy Church. Original music composed by Claire Campbell, editing,
sound design and scoring by Jesse Niswanger. Associate producers are
DaShan Moodley and Jermaine Kriher. Additional producing by Ben Melman,
fact checking by Dennis Webster. Recording engineers are Graham Gibson,
(33:57):
Clay Hillenberg and Josh Hook. Brind Stein was read by
Angelique Pretorius. Executive producers are Virginia Prescott, L. C. Crowley,
Brandon Barr, Jennifer t Keeney and Kurt Kubachak. We want
to thank all of those who so generously welcomed us
in South Africa and shared their stories. We're incredibly grateful
(34:20):
to you all We also want to acknowledge how traumatic
these events are for the victims and their families. Please
respect their privacy. If you or someone you know has
been affected by cult behaviors, there are resources available, including
Voices for Dignity at Christine Murray dot com.
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