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December 23, 2020 106 mins

The Not So Drunk, Not So Holiday Show with Deon Cole

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. Eight
Days of.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Lazy Jones, Eight motherfucking days.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Welcome to This is our fourth annual U Shaka Khan episode.
If you're celebrating Hanakah Kwanza.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Chanaka Chaaka is smoking Robins or China.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I'm about to say smoky Robinson pronounced it.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Kah. That's all Jams and Steve.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Who's that?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Sharon Jones, Sharon Jones and the dad Kings. Oh wow,
eight days of.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
That only Honakkah was actually that funky and soulful. I'd
be a happy guy.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Well, you know, now's now's the now's the time to
reverse that. Now that's one of my favorites. I like
that record. Yeah, man, this is uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh we we should uh before we get started, give
a shout out to our good friends Belviani. Got very
familiar with them this year, extremely familiar. Yeah, and uh,
you know it's Belviani that's handcrafted to be enjoyed responsibly,

(01:20):
So you know, give them a shout out. But also
let people know that they should drink responsibly and uh,
you know, because we know that this could be you know,
a celebration for some people can be uh, not too
celebratory for other people. Yeah, our guest today is a
friend of the show. I gotta say that one of

(01:42):
the biggest surprises of twenty twenty was actually how good
of a DJ?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
This?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
This is real?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
YoY yo, Like, dude, I had zero clue that you
were this serious on turntables.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, welcome Dion cole course superior.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah that's just sha ka Khan.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Edition.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, what's going on, man, king? What's going on? Brother?
How y'all doing? Everybody doing? Everybody good?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
We're good, brother, We're good.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I didn't think I did. I was thinking.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
I was like, man, I didn't think that Dion was
such a big house head. But then I realized, I'm
like shitty from Chicago.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Of course he's out head. Like okay.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
So that's the thing though, Like, if you are, if
you're of age in Chicago, especially in the eighties and
the nineties when this is blossoming, I mean, am I
to assume that that's house Music's almost like a birthright,
Like everyone is indulged in in house music culture if

(02:53):
you're from Chicago.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
Yeah, especially back then, Like back then, it was like everybody,
everybody was engulfed in like it was it was something
that was our own. It was almost like almost like
a secret, like it was like our thing that we
was doing. And then if you really, like like I

(03:16):
was my age, you wasn't thinking about the world and
them hearing it. You was just happy that it was
like like how almost like how hip hop was our
hip hop just came and it just was something that
we felt like was ours, even like in Chicago, I
remember HBK underground hip hop stations.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
It was just something that was just ours and we just,
I don't know, we just embraced it. But everybody was.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Everybody was into it, like everybody thugs, gangsters, pimps, everybody.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Like That's what I'm saying. I would I would have
thought it was just a niche like kind of a
select if you were into this as an underground. But
I slowly realized how damn near every person from Chicago,
even Common's knowledge of house music history ran deep.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
So I didn't know that.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
Yeah, cam Com always come on the page and be
requested songs for me to play, like just always playing
uh put.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Us under.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Take request?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Is it all over my face?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Is it all over my face?

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Sometime I do, Yeah, like he'll come on there, like
he'll like text me or something and be like, yo,
play this, and I'd be like, all right, now, I
look it up and I'll play it definitely. But yeah, like, man,
our days go back, even back in the day, Common
me everybody used to be at this place called the
Bizmark when we used to get down the music box

(04:45):
a kas all disco and I'm talking like vice lords,
disciples folks. Yeah, man, Common Common was a common was
a mo a vice little and still to this day
he got a little vice lord on them, you know

(05:06):
how much of it.

Speaker 7 (05:14):
But that's crazy because no matter how hard you was,
you still dance.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
To the music still. And that's and that's the point
I was getting to.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
You're being there with like straight thugs with guns everything
jamming like jamming the house because it was a spiritual vibe. Man,
it was. It was almost tribal what it was, and
it was something that we all got along with. And
not only gangsters. We're talking like gay people, gangsters, regular people,

(05:44):
everybody in the same room, politicians, uh prepastors, everybody. Because
it was the disco era that ended and made it
underground and it made people gravitate to it because it
was you couldn't hear it on the radio no more

(06:05):
once the disco era, and you can't really end on
radio like that. So it was all these underground places
that play music. And there was a place called the
Warehouse where Frankie Knuckles used to be.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Frank were you around for the were you around for
like the Ron Hardy? Was that before your time?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Or was that? Okay, man, let me.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Tell you about Ron Ron? Yeah, yo, Ron.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
See Frankie Knuckles was like he was the one that
was like it was like sophisticated house when Frankie would
do it, and there would be mostly gay too, it
would be like mostly gay sophisticated scene. But when Ron, yeah,
all Jamie principal, all them.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
But then but then when but when when Ron started
when when they was ending the warehouse, then the music
box opened up and that's when Ron came in. And
Ron took the music from being sophisticated to like taking
chances with it, like you'll hear music that you ain't
never really heard before, and your hear music looped in.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
A way that you thought it was a whole new
song that you just didn't hear.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
And he had this thing where he'll play a song
and then he would have a real to real, real
to real, and he would blend in the real, the
real from the turntable, but the real to realid be
going backwards and.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
He would play and he would play the song backwards
on the.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
Real the reel, and you will be dancing to it,
going bserk that he's playing this track backwards and the
track being played backwards sound.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Like a whole new track.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Then used to just like just zone out.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
And the sound system was like no sound system I've
ever heard still to this day.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
And it came from uh, what's that place? Larry Levigne us.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
Garage, the dude who did the sound system in Paradise
Garage did the sound system at the warehouse at Chicago,
and it.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Was yo, there it is and and never never.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Heard nothing like that. To this day, I haven't heard
the sound system like that. And he used to thump
like through your soul dumb. So yeah, man, that that
house scene was big. And the music that Rod that
Frankie and them used to play at the warehouse, you
couldn't really get it nowhere.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
It was exclusive. So what they would do they would
make tapes and sell them.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
At the Wear at this this uh at this record
company in High Park and they and they used to
sell like the music. The people would go there and
be like, yo, let me get some of that warehouse music. Yo,
let me get that warehouse music. And after while they
took the musica, they took the wearoff of it. It
was just like, let me get some of the house music.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Oh So that's that's the derivation of how uh.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
Chicago get salty When other cities started calling their ship house, I.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Was gonna say, what's your relationship with Detroit? Because in Jersey, even.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
In Baltimore, No, I think that they always respected that
it came from Chicago. From that I know of, they
always respected it, respected that, but they knew that that's
what that music.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It came from Chicago, and that's what we called it,
and that's just what it was.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
And then they started adapting it, adapting the two which
was always love like I don't want nobody in Chicago
never was against Baltimore Jersey.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Or Baltimore had to respect Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
So it was it was it was just love like,
ain't nobody I've never heard nobody in Chicago tripping over
it like that, you know, But it's always been a
part of our culture, man, and especially like then it
was it was, it was.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It was a hybrid because hip hop was.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Like coming there raw and hard too, so it was
like between.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Both of them.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
It was just music heaven in Chicago at the time.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
When I go to Chicago, like I always find out,
like when I go to the cities and figure out,
like what the national anthem of that particular club culture is.
So what is the my eyes Don't Cry of Detroit?
I was about to say, I know the answer is, Baby,

(10:36):
I'm Scared of You by Woolmack and Womack. But now
I'm also thinking about stepping culture, like how does stepping
culture is that different than house culture as well?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Or did it?

Speaker 6 (10:48):
Yeah, stepping culture is a whole other culture of Chicago.
Stepping culture is also back in disco era, taking a
lot of that music and and just the seventies itself. Man,
it was great music. Curtis Mayfield, all of them. They
have music that had this certain rhythm and there's certain
this certain beat pattern that was considered like a music

(11:11):
that you can dance to with your woman and not
slow dance, but not fast dance. But it was something
cool that you could just move to because a lot
of players, they ain't want to mess their shoes up,
they ain't want to get all sweaty, and so it
was a nice way to just be cool and just
groove seven right, that's kind of yeah yeah, yeah, so

(11:32):
you were groove and it was able for you to
not not be sweaty, but groove, be with your lady,
be tight coas to HRD. And it was just a
good way of just grooving or whatever. So a lot
of pimps used to do that, a lot of players,
and uh that was a good way that they used
to do it.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
And it was just it was just it just stuck around.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
It just always was a thing, you know, from back
in the day, like my father, my.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Mother, everybody used to step. Like to this day, people
steps like championship level stepping tournaments.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
Yeah, all of that, like tournaments like like practicing all
year long, going from party to party, practicing and then
at the end of the year you you get into
a stepping tournament.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Like if you listening is the ultimate stepping teacher.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Uh me and my wife we stepped we Uh I
got her into it. I've been doing it for a
couple of years kind of before we got together, but
then I got her into it, and.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
So Tovid kind of stopped it because you.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Know, we ain't get to, you know, be doing it
like we used to. But we'll still we'll be in
the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
We're living.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Everybody what everybody ain't patient? You trying to.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
You know because from various people, I hear that like
Woo and Woo, Max Mayby, I'm scared of you.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And then the that's Jeffrey, uh making love is gonna last.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
That's that's more stepping with this name Jeffrey something God
his name.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
But yeah, I know you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Right, So like what what are those like Chicago only
records that like of that era at least.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
Well when it like anything by the moments of the
shotlights like some some cools, it's like.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yo stepping groog. But like I said, it's just a.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Temples, Nah, come on, sexy mamas, not a fast Yeah,
it's that tempo if you're in that tempo, because I
tell you somebody, who's who people get because we we
stepped to Earth win the Fire like Earth in the
Fire is like a great great group.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
But I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you who
people love. It's Kim like Chicago.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah yeah, man.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Look.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
God, no, no, no disrespecting Kim, no different, but just
the way he pops up on this the way he
pops up on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I need to want to properly explain the power of Kim.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I'm gonna tell you, Kim is just cool, Yo, It's
just it's just a cool.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Look.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
We don't know him personally, We don't know him personally,
but the music just gott a.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
Groove, a sophistic like a cool pimp sophistication type thing
that people love in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Man, everybody, everybody get.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Maybe everybody I know in's Chicago. Yo, Kim you you.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Roll listen, Yo, Kim is one of them artists, bro,
Like for real, Kim is one of them artists that
like nobody claims to like.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
But this nigga puts up numbers on the board.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
So it's like, listen, some of our niggas is lying
cuz these records are not buying themselves, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Niggas fuck with Kim.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Do this concert and trench coats and.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Mustache, Like, yeah, I learned I learned the power of
Kim on a drive to New Orleans. I was driving
while I was riding with my aunts from New Orleans
to well, from Atlanta, New Orleans. We're going New Orleans

(15:26):
from Mardi Gras and Nigga. When I tell you, it
was a chemthon for six hours. That was when I
got school. I was like, Okay, I get it. He
he is the Auntie Whisperer Frankie.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
For real.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
Wait, wait, I gotta I gotta clear something else because
I ain't trying to get a little showing.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
No more.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Yeah, no disrespect, disrespect to Kim. I just simply I'm
not that familiar with Kim's discography. But again, I recognize
he puts numbers on the boards open up shows for
him in stadiums at like.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Eighteen thousand Cedar.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
He Jill Scott opening for Kim, you know, damn near
sixteen thousand Cedar in Philadelphia, Like he does the numbers.
I just I've never studied him. And yes, as a
casual listener, you might dismissively say, oh, okay, that's just
algio whatever, But now I get so, Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
See the whole thing about Kim from I don't. I
don't know his history and none of that need.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
All I knew was it was homeless.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
He got a deal and he blew up and it
made people go wow, look at look at that and
look at this guy's.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Voice is amazing. He was homeless. Yo, we rock His
story is crazy. Yeah, we rocking with We rock away.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
So that's okay, let's get Kim on the show.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
We gotta do al black first. But as soon as
you get.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
A black first, No, but you're some stepping on, some
stepping you throw some kim on. You could be in
the middle of a fight you throw some Kimo. Mother's
gonna be like, I better not see your ass around here.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
No more.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Man, So, how how long have you been DJing? Just
all your life? For a new pandemic skill? Like?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Just no?

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Really, I was just talking about this the other day.
I sung to a friend and I said.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Can you believe I have not DJ a year yet?

Speaker 4 (17:52):
What I'm not so congression.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
I don't even know how to DJ on on CDJ.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Wait, you saw the writing on the wall, got you
some DJ equipment in March and then.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
DJ. No.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
No, I've had the equipment for three years and I
had it sitting there.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I was living in another house.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
I had it sitting there and I tried to use it,
and I didn't have the time to practice.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I had a catalog of music.

Speaker 6 (18:24):
I always had a catalog music because I just love
collective music and especially disco music.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
That's my thing. So I always had music.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
But I had the equipment, and I never had time
to do it. At the time I was filming Blackish, Grownish,
Angi Tribeca man Conan, I was. I had no time,
and so it just sat there, dusty everything, and I
just never did nothing with it. Moved to my new

(18:53):
place and still never did nothing with it. It was
just sitting up in the box. And when the pandemic
and I saw D Nice. I saw d Nice and
I was like, and I was on d nice page.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
This one.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
D Nice had like one hundred and twelve people listening
to him. So we was over there, you know, just
just checking them out, and I just just like, man,
it ain't nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I was like, man, I should I should.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
Pull out my equipment and just see if I can
just try try to do it. And I just did
it and was playing around and people was like, don't
quit your day job, and you're horrible and stick.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
To comedy and where's the joke? Said? They just kept
doing it.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
And I was joking with him too, because I was like, yeah,
I am horrible. Definitely, my blends are horrible and all
of that. But I remember Ron Hardy in Chicago. Ron
Hardy wasn't no great blend dude.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
What he what?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
It's what he played that was amazing.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
He was a selector.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
Yeah, So I just always had that in mind, and
I was like, you know what, but I got some
music people don't know about.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Like, I got some music, and so I just was like,
let me just try it.

Speaker 6 (20:10):
And then I started thinking, you know what, it'd be
hilarious if I learned how to DJ right in front
of everybody's face, and I just I just didn't care
and just did it and see to see what happened,
and and plus let this music out that I got
that people don't know about, that people don't know about.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I'm going to tell.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
You if you you've been like Emir, yeah, man, I've
been doing this for about seventeen years.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Eighteen I do a world class digit.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
You now have.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
You?

Speaker 3 (20:45):
You you have an amazing toofer where now like I
expect you to be your own after party DJ, after
your comments.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Two chicks, that's what that's that's what I want to do.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Sing.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, that's why I want.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
That's why I wouldn't call myself and I still don't.
I don't be calling myself the DJ because I just don't.
I feel like I feel like that's what I do,
That's what i'd be doing. But I don't feel like
I went through the trenches to call myself a DJ
like that. Like I don't even I bag off of
anybody even saying that. Sometimes I just be like, I

(21:23):
don't think. I think I'm not, but I just think
I play music that.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
But you have got requests for gigs.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I bet man.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
I did the Chosen Few, which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I did Chosen Few this year. I did Rock the Vote.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
I did Rock the Vote with Louis Vega and DJ Spinner,
and I did uh uh souling the horn.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
I just did that. That sounds like.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Forget from one imposter syndrome to an other.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Just accept it. Like we think you're a DJ, you're
a DJ. Trust me on this one.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
When you're sweating while you're DJing, is that still nerves
or is it hot in there.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Man, I got air condition, I got I got I
got air condition. No, I just be I just be
kind of like losing it.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
This is what I do when I put a playlist together.
I don't listen to it loud. I listened to it.
It was very low speakers, and I just I just
listened to the blends of it. I don't even really
listen to the whole song because I know the song,
or if it's a new song that I hear, I
listen to it, but I won't listen to it loud.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
And I listened to it a couple of times.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
But the experience is when I'm playing it loud for
the first time, everybody listening to it, and.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm on, I'm on these, I'm on, I'm on these
boys right here, these speakers, these and.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Loud you last your music, Yo, I blast.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Look at this. This is.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Off my speaker, the size of.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, I be rattling, rattling, this whole joint be rap.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
You feel it through the screen when you're watching them.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
That's why I asked, oh yeah, and that joint too
up there, like I be radling, rattling, and.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
So yo, I be feeling it.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
Man, I just be like, I feel music, man, I
feel it. Like I always was saying to myself too,
I was like, if I wasn't a comedian, I'll.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Probably be an A and R somewhere. Man, Like, I
just love music. And maybe I'm just maybe I don't
know the ends and out of an R, but I
just thought that. But I just love music, man, I
just love feeling. Now.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
I think that's what comes through in your sets because
you know the records. And that's the thing now with
when I tell when I talk, the cats coming up, whatever,
it's like with DJing like a mirror can give you
his hard drive right and just you know twenty thousand songs.
But if you don't know the songs, if you don't know, okay,
this is the part, that's the break to play do

(24:12):
with these into this. Yeah, if you don't know what
to do with it, that shit is just files on
the laptop.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
It means nothing.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
But if you know the records, that's what makes you
good DJ because you know how to play them right.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Like like even like request.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
The thing the thing that like like request is that
certain like you can hear DJs play music and that's cool,
But then you got DJs who play music where you
want to know the origin of this music.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
You want to know who made it. You want to
know who's selling. You want to know.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
You you want to know history of music just from
the way somebody play it.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (24:50):
And Man, as many times many nights haven't been on
your page.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Listen to you. Man, I've sat there.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Like with another computer, Man, just like yo, what is it?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
But that's why I do it. I do it so
cats can exam it and learn it.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
But that's what I'm saying, Like what you're doing and
with your nariety and your popularity, Like even I have
a deeper respect for disco culture and house music culture
that I thought I had. But with you, I see
that almost as an education. Like that definitely keep Sunday

(25:29):
Service even when we quote stop wearing our masks and
get out.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Into the water.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Nah, we need to make Sunday service a thing, Sunday
afternoon service, you know, from wherever you are in LA
or that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Thank you, man.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
And that's the goal, Man, to keep rocking with it,
going from some different cities, man and coming through and
get down and get down.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
With some other great cats. Man and we just have
a night of it. Man. It just just make it happen.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
Man, it just just played good music man, and and uh,
you know, excite each other, you know, because that's what
it is. Man, that's exciting each other too. And uh,
you know, just shining shining light on something because it
it'd be so many people that come to my page
and they'd be like, I love this and never heard.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
It, never heard life. They'd be like like, where did
this come from?

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Existed?

Speaker 6 (26:25):
Never even knew it existed, and be like what is
this music? It's called black white and they and they,
and more importantly, they'd be like, I remember this woman
was like, I don't know why I feel I feel
this way.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
She said, I feel stupid sometimes like feeling good about this.
She was like it's weird. And I was like, wow,
that was important. When she said that, I was like, man,
that's good.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
And that just drives you to just keep searching for
music and pulling up music and all.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
People ain't used to music just moving their bodies before
it even hit their minds.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Yeah, that's true and a big you know, and a
big part of it is also, you know, now's the
time for taste makers to sort of grab the brass
ring again because you know, previously those who are leading
in DJs were just.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Basically doing this pump shit yeah, for the sake of,
you know, their own popularity and their own but not music.
They feel like all the times DJs tell me like, yo,
man I just I wish I could do what you do.
Like you just do what you want to do. You
can make.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
You know, so hopefully now somebody told me that they
was like, man, I wish I could play play the
music like you play. And I was like, why can't
you because, like you know, you just got to play
with the people.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
And I'm like, I don't agree.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
With that because they they they only get It's to me,
it's kind of odd for you to get out the car,
listen to the radio, going to a party and then
hear what you heard on the radio, right, you know what.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
I could have kept my ass in the car.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I could have got my ass in the car. I
could have got my ass to the car.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
So no, it's for you to like break new music.
And yeah, I definitely understand you got to get to
people what they want. They love to sing some stuff,
but it's just it's just a mixture. Man, it's just
a mixture of of new, old and old that's new
to you. You know, if you ain't never heard it,
it's new.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
Okay, you think you with with you doing the like
your DJ sets, you say you pretty much were learning
how to DJ live like in front of an audience.
Do you think was that same kind of mentality as
that what led you to do your comedy, Like when
you put out your like I think the one hour
set you put out of just you working stuff out.

Speaker 6 (28:48):
Yeah, we're working it out. It's it's yeah, it's like
it's taking chances, man, that's all it is. And it's like,
you know, you had these thoughts in your head of
what you think and you don't know until you know.
You know, Hell, I could probably be the best astronaut
in the world. I don't know because I ain't never
go up. But if you send me to the movie,

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I'm like, I might do some cool shit up there.
I just don't know, you know, until I know.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
And shit, you know. So that's that's how I feel like.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
I was like, man with my with my my working
it out comedy special thing, I was like, man, it'd
be cool if I gave people material that I was
not throwing away but wasn't used, and make a special
out of material that I wasn't using. Because if people
like this, wait till they see what I kept.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
So you're seeing your your Stevie Wonders story is a
throwaway story.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
It was.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
It was a story that I told before, but I
didn't but I didn't use, but I didn't use in.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
My stand up like that.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
It'd be a story that I would just tell if
people were talking about stories, I tell the story now
I had as I had it as a joke before,
and I did it as a joke before, but I
think people. The funny thing was people wouldn't believe me,
and so they thought that it was just fake, and so.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
I instantly believed that.

Speaker 9 (30:19):
Stevie a forty nine paragraph text.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
Anybody watching this right now, if you don't have a
text from Quest love you, you don't know what texting is.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Here. It's not about technical use. Quest text got fade
in in the corners. Like I laughed.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I've never laughed so hard a routine in my life,
because yeah, I know that no one wants to believe you.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
And so so I quit doing it.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
But people was legendary.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
People were kind.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Of like, man, don't talk about Stevie like that. And
so I did the joke and then I just let
it die down. And then when I was doing my special,
I was like, I should bring this back up. And
then I was like, you know what, I ain't gonna
bring it back up, but I'm gonna tell people the
story to fill time in the room because I couldn't
think of no more new material I wanted to work on,

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so I just told the story at the same time.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
So when I was editing the special, I was like,
I should.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Throw this story in that, and I just was like,
let me throw it in there.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
And give it to the people.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
And man, on I think Facebook alone, that story alone,
just that story alone, that like one point eight million views.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Have you heard anything recently since it's been out, since
the special has been up?

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Oh no, I've heard nothing from his camp. Like there's
this one girl from his camp. She used to always
be like, take that down, don't do this, but she'd
be cool though it wasn't no dish, she would be cool,
she would be cool about it.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
But now I haven't heard nothing else from from them
at all. But I see Stevie.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Every now and then in La like I'll pop up
somewhere and I'll be somewhere like that's what happened before.
I was at this bar chilling and his boy came
over and tapped me on the shoulder and was like, hey,
Stevie in the corner, like, come on, you want to
talk to you.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
And I was like, I ain't going over there.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
This boy.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Come see what Stevie want.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
I'm like, no, man, I ain't going over there, Like dude,
get over here.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Man.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
I won't get into the specifics, but I got one time.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I got what was.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
It called when you when you're left holding the bag?
I got scapegoated into having.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
To be a bad guy about a musical decision that
impacted him and.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
He was kind of left with the impression that that
was a mirror's call or mir's fault that that happened.
And this was at another event and I came to
work to the Tonight Show the next week, the next Monday,
and he was the guest on the show and instantly

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like to know my production manager, Keith, Like he, Keith,
you got that one person in your life.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
That lives for telling you bad news.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
You know, like the day I got in trouble with
Michelle Bachman, it was like, you're wanted in Lauren Lauren
Michael's office, like which is basically you're about to get
fired right now, like that sort of like he lives
with that.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
She's like, it's important, Stevie Wonder wants to talk to
you right now.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
And I'm like, wait, why you know I guess about
last Friday, And I was like, that wasn't my fault.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well, he won't talk to you, just like he lives
for that.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
And the whole thing was it was it was like
somehow the Godfather where The thing I was amazed that
was that he was sitting at a table and I
guess he was warming up his voice because we were
about to sound check, and he had these two scalding
hot like crafts of tea, but they were sitting on

(34:21):
the edge of the table.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
And it's only me and him in the group, me
and him in the room.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
And on top of that, he has like a bag
of muffins and butter and different jams and jelly, and
I'm watching him just navigate like it's normal.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
But he's also like reaching his arm over ever so.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Slightly to that hot craft of hot Tea and I'm
on the receiving end, so it's like you could almost
like like that sort of thing. And at one point
he reached out too, like he was reaching for like
more butter, and reached his arm out and I grabbed
the craft.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
He said, no, no, no, no, I know where it is.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I got it. Oh do you know what I'm doing
right now? But the whole people knowing, man, yo, man,
he knows.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
And the whole time he was like, yeah, so uh Friday, uh,
And I'm like, I try to play it off like yeah, man,
it was so much fun, Like I really try to.
She's no man's you know. I just want to make
sure we cool, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
And then I just had to play dumb like I
didn't know what happened, like I had to cut this
song short or some ship you know that sort of
thing and get him off the stage or whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, you know, you know, like when you're doing that
high Boys ship.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Problem. But I knew.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
I was like, Yo, he's going to he's going to
spell this call and hot Tea on your lap. He's well,
I guess at some point we should say since this
is the Christmas episode Happy Holidays.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
I was like, I'm happy. I'm celebrating my holiday.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
What you're doing for ally Bro? What you're doing.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Thaniel? Nothing?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I know, Like, is it really Christmas?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Is this is?

Speaker 5 (36:41):
I'm so happy to not have the pressure or the
just the stress of traveling.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Nigga.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
You got kids, and I'm certain they want a p
S five.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, with my son, he want the Xbox.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
And what's the difference because I'm talking to a bunch
of kids that are like, I want an Xbox?

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Like what, so what is it like? It's like smartphone
versus Apple, like versus It's not necessarily that. It's more
sort thing of like with a particularly my son. So
the way games are now, like gaming is basically just
a whole another social network. And so if you're if
you have an Xbox, then you know you can chop

(37:24):
it up with aut your homies on Xbox.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
If you got PS five, then you know you can
do it as well.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
And so for my son, he's fifteen, I listen, keep
on slipping.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, so he's fifteen nine.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
So a lot of his homies they like be running
two K and his kind of social network is all
on the Xbox.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
So it's really a social thing for them.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
So to me, I'm a PS five guy, but I'm
not a social gamer. Like my game is just solo.
I'm not you know, talking to people online. I'm just playing.
But for the younger kids, it's a social aspects O Xbox.
From what I see, that seems to be where most
of the youngest that's what they that's where they get
it in.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
At God got it? God?

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Is there a world for me, like, you know, a
world where I can fit in and just play like
my regular two D games and whatnot, or I think
you could if you come from the PS five. They
got games that like you could it's like a yeah,

(38:30):
ship you might get a man. Well, they do got
all those simulators. So now they got all the simulators.
You can get the Nintendo simulators, you can get them.
And they got like all the game some games and yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
What's a good what's a good virtual game?

Speaker 4 (38:48):
That's a good question like that that they have.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Yeah, the VR, I mean that's not really something I
get into, but they but all the systems have them.
I was running and U I was running Resident Evil
seven I think like like two years ago, and it's
like a survival horror joint.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Oh I used all the time, nigga.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
And with the virtue Nigga. That ship is a whole
nother spirit. I was like, no, I don't want this smoke.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Blowing my mind right now.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
You're saying that they got it for virtual Uh yeah, yeah,
you can.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Get the like that this headset or whatever like I speak,
but Resident Evil seven bro, you can have that joint.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I was like, man, right there, yeah, it's really like,
oh no, I gotta do that.

Speaker 6 (39:39):
I gotta watch that. I gotta get that. I used
to always play that.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Well.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
I don't know, man, it doesn't not that it doesn't
feel like Christmas, but I don't know it is not.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
It is the most Christmas I feel.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I've been bought no gifts for nobody.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
I've been bought nothing for nobody, even myself whole entire year,
like nothing.

Speaker 7 (40:02):
Like on a birthday, not a not a nothing, nothing not.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
I just I bartered DJ gigs. I'll be like, yeah, DJ,
you're party for an hour.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
So that's.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Because I think the thing is I think just this year,
like it really just causts us to slow down and stop.
And you know, it's like you would give people gifts
for them to use, you know, outside of their homes,
Like Yo, I'm gonna sing you on a trip somewhere.
I'm an and it's just like Nigga, we all in
the house, Like so I.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Go to Jordans. I can't do massages.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
And days at the spa ship like that. I would
give my wife to the spa all the time.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
But that's why Amazon is killing the game.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I thought, yeah, I mean they killing the game.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
But you know, you buy a gift for somebody, it's
the wrong size, Like it ain't even worth it. It's like,
everybody just chill this whole year. When next year come around,
we're gonna make up for all of this. We're gonna
make up for all our birthday, all our birthday parties.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
We're gonna make birthday. I know I'm gonna have a.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
Birthday party twice next year. Rt, I'm having two birthday parties.
I'm going hard. I'm gonna double up on everything. But
right now, we just gotta chill.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
It's like everybody, it ain't not next year, babe, twenty two.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
Twenty twenty two, twenty twenty two, so we gotta triple up.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Then let's see.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
July and August of twenty twenty one.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
No, bab, I think it's gonna take at least a
year for the vaccine everybody to kind of make the
round take it to.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
Because we gotta find We gotta find out how long
it lasts. Don't nobody know that. We don't know if
it's forever or if it's for a year.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
I think it's for you'll there, to be honest, they haven't.
They haven't decided yet. If it's gonna better, you got
to keep taking They haven't decided yet. It's just like
take it and we figure it out. Right now, you
are on your face, like, my man, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Figure out? Ball player dude.

Speaker 7 (42:09):
Yeah, he fell on his face because he had COVID
months before. My doctor, my doctor friend was just breaking
it down to me because he was like with people,
I think it's yes.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
People don't understand that.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
Like once you have covidus with your heart and the
shape of your heart.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
And it changes the shape of your heart, you.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Said, like, yeah, it has something to do with this SI.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
It does.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
After it's over and out of your body, it does.
It fucks with your heart.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Yeah, man, Wow, that's my man, Terry Hannah DJ Terry Hannah,
he got Yeah, that's the home.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, Yeah, Terry got it. Terry got it. Wow, Terry
got it.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
And Deebo when Deebo rest in piece to Deebo, Deebo
had he had it before he got over COVID.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
That's the ended up catching it again.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Same thing with the young Wow he had.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
It a minute ago, app and he caught it again
and that's how Debo died.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
So I didn't know that was his cause of death.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
Of Even so, even so everybody talking about they catching
it and they cool after they catch.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
It or they are mun Now I ain't.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
I am legend.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
We still don't know the long term We still don't
know the long term effects of I think they're gonna
be studying this ship for the next decade. Man, Like,
we still don't know. Even if you quote unquote get
over it, we still don't know what getting over it
completely looks like.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:32):
What we do know is by by the fall of
twenty twenty one will probably if we're lucky, we're fifty masks,
but we're not maskless until twenty twenty two.

Speaker 6 (43:41):
Fall twenty twenty one, people gonna we're gonna have We're
gonna be able to be like, Okay, we can see
how long this is going to affect people.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
They're gonna know more about it.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
If we should take a shot of the year nah,
because they they tested people months earlier prior to this.
So around the fall, that's gonna let us know if
it wear off, if it doesn't or whatever.

Speaker 7 (44:06):
Dey'all was lucky that y'all got to get blackish out
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Most people know they getting shut down.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
Hey, we're still shooting and it is I'm gonna tell
you something, man.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
So yeah, what's the protocol of shooting a television show
now during this period?

Speaker 5 (44:20):
Like what's take me through your day? Like how early
do you have to get up? And what's testing?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Like? Yo, let me tell you.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
So I get tested every day even if I'm not filming,
because if if they have to they want to know.
Also if they have to move a scene around, I'll
be ready. So they make sure they make sure that
you test like every day our day.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Now it's way longer.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
So if it take us if it take us six
hours to shoot the scene, now it take us like nine,
well eight, After every scene we got to leave out,
They got to disinfect, then we come back in and
they got to move the cameras around. Everybody got to
leave out. It's like a whole whole process, man.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
So question all right, because I don't know how what
child labor laws are or whatever, and plus children now
they're teenagers.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, but does that does that also change? In Hollywood?
The uh?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
I know that there's a four to five hour limit
for like actors under I think fourteen or fifteen or whatever.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Does that also change? Does this also change that rule
as well?

Speaker 6 (45:35):
I'm not I'm not sure, but I do know this.
They get those kids in and out. They get them,
They get them in and out, like definitely, Like like
if you got a scene with one of the kids,
you it's gonna move a little bit. It's still longer,
but it's gonna move a little bit more faster because
they're gonna get them in and out. So they do
everything that they possibly can do in order to make

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sure everybody's cool or whatever. But but it's totally it's
totally different now.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Man.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
You you have to mask everywhere where everybody in the
individual trailers, and it's just nerve wracking because you got
so many people. Because another thing too, when you do makeup,
you can't put.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
A mask on.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
You got to put one of the plastic things on
your face, and hopefully nobody's in six feet there.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
You you stay away.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
From them because if you put a mask on, it's
gonna mess your makeup up.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
And uh so you.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
Gotta just stay away from everybody as much as possible.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Man, And you know it.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
And does that give does that give enough time for
I mean, I don't know what the protocol is, but
I assume that, like you guys have to like rehearse
lines and rehearse the rhythm.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
And so we come in and we rehearse and then
we go back and we change and then we come
back and we shoot it.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
But we rehearse with our mask on. Yeah, we do that.

Speaker 6 (46:55):
But uh yeah, it's it's it's it's it's so it's
very tedious.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
It's very tedious. But we at the.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
Same token were working, and uh a lot of people
wish they could be working, and.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
A lot of people losing their homes, you know.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
With l a right because it's such it's the industry.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
So y'all know, I mean, I don't know if everybody
knows this but like a lot of these sets and stuff,
these are essential services, Like the state has now said that,
like movie sets are essential because this town will die.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
It will die, manole. It was and it was doing that.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
People were losing their ship left and right, and they
still are and they.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Still are, Like Hollywood is like, wow, right now you are.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Tom Cruise.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
I was gonna ask you and when to cruise?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Ran taking y'all, y'all on my mama. I felt that,
y'all in real life, in real life.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
I was like, Yo, it's Tom, Like, dude, do you
know how many people shut.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
The fuck down and y'all got the opportunity to make
it work.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
Y'all sitting around here bullshitting and walking around and whispering
to each other.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
And ship already got shut down.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, Like, man, what are you doing whispering to a motherfucker?

Speaker 5 (48:15):
Like the worst way to communicate with a nigga during
the during.

Speaker 6 (48:23):
The pandemic, right, I snacked out of here, you whispering
through a sound like.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Just text tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yo.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
Tom was mad, like I'm a producer, like.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
I thought I thought.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I heard him say nigga a few times.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Around with you.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Niggas, y'all, better.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
Tom, Yeah, Tom, Tom, Tom letting it out the way
that it was.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Supposed to be let out. Man, But it is, it's
it's uh, it's it's tedious stuff.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
So like when y'all shoot, like, I guess I'm not
a love scene, but like, is it no physical like
if if Anthony has the kiss Tracy or something like,
is it none of that?

Speaker 1 (49:09):
You know, none of.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
That if you if you look at this season of Blackish,
we are especially the office scenes that we do, where
we we nine times out of ten we are not
in the office no more. We in a breakroom, but
we can like spread out and we don't have to.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Sit right next to each other.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
So we got a couple episodes where we're in the breakroom,
but the majority of the season we we I mean,
I mean a couple episodes where were in the office together,
but the majority of season we're in the breakroom where
we can stretch.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Out out or whatever.

Speaker 6 (49:42):
But yeah, everybody kind of spaced out, definitely, definitely mentally.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
So how does that affect when you plan the scene?
You know, when you know you're in a scene where
you have to you know, ostensibly assumed it or portrayed it.
Everything is fine or we're joking, we're laughing, but in
your mind, you know, like nigga, it's a whole lass
plague we try not to catch. How do you disassociate
from that?

Speaker 6 (50:07):
I take a deep breath before I say my lines
and then.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Hold your breath.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Ship.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
I was like, and if you're talking to Laurence Fishburn
and Jennifer like you really.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah want boy, I'll be hold my breathna be your
Navy seal right now, dude, way I know my breath.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I turn on, I turn around, do my lines, and
somewhere in the quarner.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Man I thought I was the only one that did that. Serious.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Lauren's up in the bubble wrap. Y'all make sure.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
They're good, lad, Lawrence, don't be playing Lawrence. Jennifer, both
of them, they boy, they serious. They they will get
on your ass. Laurence fish Burnt laws be like it
in that calm voice. Mun't be like you must do
what you're supposed to do in order for everyone to

(51:07):
get through this. You want to stand, you'd be like this, yes, sir,
I just stopped just talking my shirt saying for no reason.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, I don't think you have to tell older black people.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
No oh no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
You younger people that.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Are like feel invincible and ship.

Speaker 7 (51:28):
Yeah they yeah, they killing us, young people killing us. Man,
I like to shorten it. That's what it is, young people.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Niggas crackers.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Uh tips.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
No, it's saying, oh the tip board, the tips is
tipping the tips, the tips is they did you.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Here today's black contract speech? There was?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah? Yeah, Q made a speech?

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Oh man, yeah what was?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
What was?

Speaker 5 (51:56):
What was in today's more black? I mean, like, Biden's
not in office yet, like you can't.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
He's he's demanding, he's giving his demand.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, and I'm like, let him get on.

Speaker 7 (52:08):
It's okay, Biden said, let people demand from him that
feel like they have added to, you know, bringing him
to that place.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Biden's okay, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
A mirror, He's I know, not for that.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Look.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I love Cube, man, that's my guy. We all do.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Man, Like.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
I don't know, I just just just generally from anybody
like that wants to give a hot take.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
I need them. I need to feel like they really
know what the political process is first, where you just
walk in the door.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
My whole thing is this though, I'm like this regardless
if he knows, if he doesn't know, at least at
least he's doing something like I don't see nobody else
doing ship and so and and this is what I'm saying,
Like I'd rather take something I believe the right place

(52:58):
than nothing. Yes, I rather got something to nothing, nothing.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Reading the wrong.

Speaker 9 (53:08):
Thing, something right right? I ran nothing again, Cubert, it's
like Judo, all your work. Oh you talking about the game, Cuba.
I was thinking about the actual Cubert. Djqban got the
all the way funk out of.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Here, Cuban watching me again. I just I just I
don't know. I just respect what Cue did. Man, And
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Just making I acknowledge his heart was in the right place.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Yes he if he was gonna do that ship to me,
you should have did that ship in twenty six like
because it's you know what I'm saying, because it's one
thing to say, Hey, listen, I didn't vote for this motherfucker,
but listen, this is what we got.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Let's try to work with what we got.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
You say that in twenty sixteen, top of twenty seventeen,
nobody's mad.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
It's like, all right, well, let's let's see.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
But pulling this ship down, you know them three weeks,
three weeks primary.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
It's like like, nigga, come on, but look, let me
ask you this though, Like if he if he came
to the table with no agenda as far as I mean,
I ain't saying no agenda, but if he came to
the table and he wasn't biased, and he wasn't towards
being a Democrat, he wasn't a Republican. He just came

(54:28):
to the plan going, who's gonna help up black people
with this? And the Republicans go, man, we want to
do it or we want to see it, and he
go all I find cool?

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Like, Like though, is.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
That if I'm paying attention and a leopard, don't change
the stripes like that.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
And they gonna change that ship three weeks for y'all
niggas get ready to go vote.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
And the thing is is that I would have already
known coming in from the door that this this is
more about a photo opportunity or bragging right opportunity for
Trump than it is about helping.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
You're not you should negotiate with a fucking scammer dog
right right?

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I mean, the contract it's very long. I'm curious if niggas.

Speaker 7 (55:17):
I haven't said much because I ain't read the contract
to comment.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
I do, but I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
That I did. I went through I went through this
and so what it was.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I read a little bit of it.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
Absolutely not not enough to not enough to say like
it's horrible or it's not, but I read.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I read through a little bit of it. But like
I said, I've always just gave.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
Him credit for at least bringing the idea up because
prior to him doing that, I can't recollec I can't
recall anybody talking about them helping out black areas and
black people and ship like that.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I just black lives matter, but not like a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yes, I always gave you love for that.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I think it's celebrities.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
You have to use your voice, like if you're want to,
you know, if you want to, you know, use your.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Voice and commit.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
I would say, use your voice to like amplify the
people that actually do the work in the community, you
know what I'm saying, People that know policy, people that
like put your money behind that they actually do the
work right into the political processing.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
But what are those people doing?

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yeah, but moving with progress? I mean in comparison.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
There are people doing it, but you got to be
actively you have to be actively active. I'm sorry, you
have to be actively informed or who's doing the work.
There are people on the ground doing the work. Of course,
all news Georgia, the Stacy Abrams or whatever. But it's
just like, you know, I'm not saying that, I'm not
saying that Cubans trying to be performed.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
No, no, no, listen.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
And you know he clapped back at me on one post.
I'm not thinking that Cubans trying to be performative. I
believe that his heart is in the right place. But
last I checked, absolutely, this entire administration is not.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
About the advancement of black people at all.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
A matter at all and just by even you taking
that cont like because the thing is, because here's the thing.
Let me just be a humpre sent clear, Like we
love c Cuba's hip hop, Like say what you want
about this shit he doing now, but Nigga Cube was
one of my favorite like ever, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Deaf certificate is one of it.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
But the thing about it, you know that people that
we were trying to understand is like listen, we're not
ashamed or disappointed in Cube that he tried. We're disappointed
that he didn't see the fucking game to begin with.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
It's like, nigga, you you got fucking scam, bro, you
know what I mean. Like they were never gonna give
you a real shot. You were never gonna have a
real conversation with Trump or any of them niggas.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
They were just he was above that.

Speaker 7 (57:51):
He might have thought he was the one, just like
Steve Harvey thought he was the one, Like you know,
it's a certain level of.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
But that that's the thing, like the thing that I
knew that it's exhausting. And I brought this up before
with people like, ah, man, I can't, I can't watch
the news.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
I can't. And even this year, I stopped watching the.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
News as obsessive as obsessively as I used to. But
it's like since twenty sixteen, Since January twenty twenty sixteen,
I've never I've not shut my eyes once. I mean sure,
I was abreast on everything that was happening. And that's
forward too. We don't have that luxury no more.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
Yah, Yeah, that's that's definitely true. Man, Like I said, Man,
we don't. We don't know the blueprint to none of
this shit. We we sitting up trying to figure this
out as it goes along, and nobody got the answers
to nothing. So the way I feel is, if anybody
come with anything, I'm going that's cool. I'll let you

(58:51):
know how I feel about it. But I'm glad you
did something. Now let's keep it moving. Now what we're
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Okay, So that was so this is what they tried
to do. Okay, Now just look at the let's look at.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
The black contract, and let's see how we really can
all come behind this and make it happen and come together.
But we need we need a place to come together.
We ain't ain't got no place to come together. But
we ain't got nobody to talk to. We ain't got
nobody to power with. Because he get if we if
we had that kind of organization and that type of togetherness.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Then he could have could have came to the to the.

Speaker 6 (59:23):
Table with a group of people that's over our kind
or whatever, you know, just like when when Nick Cannon,
when Nick Cannon did that ship, they had Nick Cannon
talk to like the head of the Jewish community.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Who they talked to. For we ain't got man, We
ain't got a We ain't got a nigga to talk to.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Not one had they had, They had talk to Charlamagne,
you know what I know.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
And that's crazy, but that's what I'm saying, Like we
we gotta come together and we all gotta stand out
something and have a place to go to, have a
place to talk type, a place to pow wow, and
we and we don't even have that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
So if he got something and he like, man, let
me just bring it up.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
Honestly, I think I agree with just Indyan. I just
think that we have to have those conversations. I think
we just have to have those conversations privately. Think a
big problem like social media like Twitter, Instagram, white people
have never had unfettered access to the thoughts of niggas,
and that is not necessarily always a good thing, you

(01:00:29):
know what I mean, Like they.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Know too much. Like when you see all these you know,
all these damn you know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
People that got caught blackfishing, like the chick from the
chick that was at that school and Rachel Docal and yeah,
all the yeah, all the all the all them white
women that was pretending to be.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
And that was like.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
Jessica whatever, the chick, the Jewish chick that was pretending
to be black, Like I think much of that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, the bitch of scamming like a motherfucker.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
But like, yeah, so I just think like we're seeing
they're they're able to like put on that costume so
readily easily, because never before in the history of this
fucking country have you been able to see like our language,
like our inside jokes, like what they call aa ve
e whatever, like all the just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Our cultural shorthand that we have.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Nigga, they see that shit, right, they can pick it
up and you know, learn it and apply it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
But how but how can they when we don't know
what we want? We gotta know what we want.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
As much as a cliche it is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
You know, when I first heard this term on like
news programs, news pundits saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
We are not a mon oflift. We're not a mon oflift.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I believe that now more than ever because I didn't
realize one how conservative a lot of us are. I
didn't realize how, you know, like there's like six to seven.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
We got apartments.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Yeah, the thoughts of black people that aren't as unified
as I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
We were not at all, bro y'all.

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
We're so not unified that that contract that ice Cube
put out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
I briefly ran through it, y'all. Black Lives.

Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
Matter manifesto from five years ago. And if the nigga
would have read that ship and God would him sorry,
no shade, but nigga would attitude that ship, maybe we
could get at least get together on that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
But that's what I'm saying. We gotta know what we want.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
Black people don't come together as many shades as it is.
Of us as it is, there's been many different kind.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Of different ideologies, ya, So we.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
We gotta come together. We gotta come together on what
we want to be called. We gotta be we gotta
come together.

Speaker 6 (01:02:51):
We don't we some niggas, some niggas school would be
a nigga some nigga school would be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
We gotta come together on what we're gonna be called.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
We gotta come together on what we're gonna take a
stand on. We can't just be taking the stand on
some ship for a hot man and then that's out.
I remember everybody was like fuck Starbucks. Three months later,
niggas was whipped cream the fuck out around us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Oh, everybody was muffing latte. They up the ass, that's
what they was. Mother fucking Gucci. Fuck Gucci. Next thing,
you know, Wonder War Show. Later, niggas was geez the
fuck up. We got to know what we want. I'm
telling you, look, look.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
We we We was with Gucci for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, look we so we so fucked up in the head.

Speaker 7 (01:03:38):
YO.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
As far as black people, that's why we don't have
no long term black designers. You know why because black people.
Because black people don't want to support ship. They think
everything played the fuck out. They don't want to come
together and be like, this is the brand that we're
gonna have and now we're gonna rock. Fuck how you
think it's played out and not we need. That's why

(01:04:00):
we don't have long term black designers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
We don't got no no motherfucking.

Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
Perry Yellois, no mother Ralph Lauren because niggas feel like
it's played out and don't want to wear it. Instead
of instead of motherfucking respecting ship and representing ship like
like we should, we don't come together on that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
I think I think that ideology is changing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I'm supporting like all gear, I'm rock and now and
that's love.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
And always don't just wear it for the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Not just February.

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
Always wear it because that's what why folks do. White
folks when they when they when they fuck with Michael Cores, motherfucker,
they gonna they're gonna wear that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
They're gonna wear that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Michael.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
Black people. Black people be like, yeah, Cross Colors was cool.
We out that ship, fucked us ship.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
Because it didn't keep Yeah, you're gonna go buy some
footboom right now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
They have to evolve too, I guess. I guess they
have to evolve too. You know what I give you
that they gotta evolve too. But it's up for us
to let them know that as well.

Speaker 6 (01:05:14):
Like Yo, but we gotta stick with these companies. We
gotta some of them try to us. Some I'm gonna
try to evolve, but people just don't fuck with them
no more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
People be like But I think.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
I think a lot of that has to do with
I mean, I think what there's some truth what you're saying.
I think that's kind of just the gift in the
curse of black people is that we because we are
the most creative, the most kind of forward thinking in terms.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Of just the stuff we create. We're always thinking forward.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
And so if you even look at music, right, if
you look at every every art form of music, like
every class of music black people we have, they have
the same pattern. We create it, we'll nurture it, we
elevate it, and then we abandon it. Yeah, gospel, blue's jazz,
like I mean hip hop to some degree, you know

(01:06:04):
what I mean. And so I think that's just kind
of who we are. It's like we just make these
things that we think are fantastic and the great, and
then we're like, all right, I made that, Okay, onto
the next ship. Meanwhile, white folks are looking at the
ship that we're done left behind, like, oh my god, nigga,
Like these niggas left this behind.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
They realize how much they sell it back to us.
I get it, Like how they niggas selling that ship
back to us.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Let's give light to uh limblin, Let's give shots to uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
I mean, is is fifty dollars on or off?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Are we still on Virgil Virgin Virgil? Is he back
in the house or not? Is Virgil back in the
house off?

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
White Virgil was kicked out the house for a seconded
him out the house for there's I'm Preston uh Victor LeMond.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I think shout out, shout.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Out to my man, a collective thoughts in Chicago. Also
my man, uh dirty.

Speaker 6 (01:07:13):
Milk, my man, Daniel Daniel, he got dirty milk and
uh we Yeah, those are some great brands, right, Definitely Gucci.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
All right, there's celebrities. She's coming up in the world
and Romeo Hunt. So there's But I think.

Speaker 6 (01:07:33):
I think the gold is not just to wear this stuff,
but rock with them as long as you can and
hold them accountable, to evolved and rock with them and
let these people be the voice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Let let them speak.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
For us as long as other clothing designers come along, man,
because right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Now it's just sad to me that we don't have
no long term black clothes and designer take.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Doesn't even think of none. I felt bad.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
A lot.

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
You No, no, no, you're not old school. No no, no,
I'm thinking of all the ones that passed like that
was another one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I was thinking of college.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
All of that, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Not but it's another tracy yeah yeah, no, like no,
and if it is one, I don't know about it,
and I should.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
I don't even think we make a good shoe ship.

Speaker 6 (01:08:28):
Nothing because because like you know what you remember, you
remember when Timberland.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Timberland was like, we don't make our shoes from folks.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
Everybody went crazy, like, fuck Timberland, I ain't wearing that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I was personally, yeah, niggas.

Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
Like I told you before about the Starbucks, niggas be like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Fuck that ship, but then they go right back to it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
But at the same token, when Timberland said that not
hid the same thing, and I mean low key, I
was like, I kid.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
It because I kind of get it. Because you don't
want niggas.

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
Coming through rock of your ship saying this played out
and then the case because when niggas say it's played out,
it's played out.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Just as just as I'm not Dutch and true religion.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Okay, so I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
I'm not I'm not too hip to the shoe game
as I am the fashion game. But definitely there's there's
some designers to look out for. J. J. Gray Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Okay, yev Rauh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
There's a brother of Ellis and these are like high end.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
There's one l F l S like father like sons shoes,
uh Keanna Barnes, Stella Hughes and these are like high.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
No, man, there's there's I'm telling you this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
This could be the paradigm shift where you know, I'm
definitely more uh you know, aware of black businesses then
I was not previously or using my dollar for that.

Speaker 7 (01:10:07):
So that's what everybody's doing for the holiday season too.
If you notice, it's been a lot of promotion about
around small businesses, black business, like make sure you you
know so.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Ets he got a black business store.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
Everybody, I mean even Steve got a black business Christmas
sweatshirt on with What.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
About my man, my man, my man Rich Fresh too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Rich Fresh Trush in the list we should actually you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Rich Rush, he do clothes for everybody. Man do it
for like black design? A cool dude.

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
You do a lot of stuff for Layla Way that
stuff she bear with the spring with the strike with
like the yellow and black stripe, that's that's yeah, that's
Rich Fresh Rich Fresh black design. And he called too,
you do the only way uh everybody? Man, So yeah,
shut out to.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Rich definitely shut up. Wait a minute, this is weird.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
This is the the one episode where I had so
many craft questions about your comedy that we didn't talk
anything about your comedy setup. All right, so wait before
we wrap, I do want to know how does one
stay sharp when you don't have an audience to sort

(01:11:30):
of work this on.

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
So, like Dave Chappelle and a couple other comments, they've
been doing shows, they've been going on, they've been doing show. Yeah, yeah,
they've been doing that, and that's cool. You know you
feel comfortable enough to do that, and that's love. Me personally,
I'm not sharp. I have not performed since February, and
that is like a no no. I am terrified to

(01:11:56):
get on stay to a lot of people don't know that.
I am terrified to even perform right now. I've been
stock stockpile of material left and right. That's why I
dropped working working it out because I knew I haven't performed,
and I was like, I want to get a people
something until you know I can get back out there.
But me going on stage, when I get back on stage,

(01:12:18):
it's going to be something that I must record because
I'm going to be terrify and I'm going to be unsure,
no confidence, I'm gonna be scared shitless. All of that
and so I am very nervous and I think about
it at least three times a day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
About me getting back on stage. And I have it
because I know I'm not sharp, no more.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
So pre pre March twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
What not?

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
What was your regiment? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
I know about the AVI spots like going to uh
not comedy seller, the comedy store, But where's where's like
a secret spot where you work shit out? Like is
the Comedy Act theater still the thing like where Robin
Harris and all those guys used to work out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Like noah, nah, it's not a thing.

Speaker 6 (01:13:10):
No more, Comedy Act used to be real dope. Shout
out to Mike Williams on that. But uh, me personally,
I would perform at the improv called the Lab and
the lab room only seats forty people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
That's where I got.

Speaker 6 (01:13:26):
The material from to put together for working it out. Okay,
forty people in this room and work out there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
That's it. That's that was my ideal spot to do. That.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
Do some open mics every now and then, pop in places,
but that would be it for me personally because a
lot of times when you perform in LA it's so
Hollywood and the ain't no telling who in the audience,
And when you get on stage, your mind is set
to do one thing, but then it changes up because
you're about to go and stay, and right before you

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go on, they go, oh, Ray Ramino is gonna do
five in front of you, and then you gotta wait,
and then Ray go on and kill it. So now
what you had in mind to do, you can't do
no more. And then you go up and you do
your old shit, your greatest hits, yeah, your greatest his
because you want to follow Ray Ramondo and it's all
fucked up. So I personally go to small rooms and

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try to just work it out like that. Oh, I
don't even tell people I'm coming, so I can keep
the fan fit, keep people's expectations for people coming to
see me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
I don't want them to see me until I'll work
it out.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
Has it been easier or harder to write the funny
in these this year?

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
You know what's odd?

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
It's still comedy, right, I mean yeah, but when it
comes to writing, you don't want to write with everybody
else writing that's me, And I think of a joke
that's too that I'd be like, I know everybody gonna
do a joke about COVID and mask and this and that,
and then I try to think about how can I
say it this different? And then I go, well, I

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don't know, I think somebody gonna think like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
And sometimes I overthink myself. But I was talking to.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
I was talking to Chris Rock one day, and Chris
Rock was like, don't underestimate yourself on how quick you
write a joke. It was like, because Prince, it took
Prince three months to write a song and then someday
it took him an hour to come up with a hit.
It was like, so if something come to you that easy,

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don't dismiss it like it's just maybe it just came
to you easy that way, right, And so I'm learning
to do that because I've thrown away so much material.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Good Karen jokes that you were like everyone's telling the
Karen jokes.

Speaker 6 (01:15:44):
When when nobody thought of it the way that I did,
but I thought, but I thought that they did. And
so I keep forgetting that I'm different, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
People do that. People think like, you keep forgetting that
you're something else.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
This is something you're the difference. It's not the joke
that's you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
You that people need.

Speaker 6 (01:16:07):
To say, it's so busy, you're so busy trying to
write the joke, you leave you out of it. And
by you leaving you out of it, you dismissed the
joke because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Kills the joke. Yeah, so that's what I've been learning.

Speaker 6 (01:16:20):
I've been learning to just go to trust myself and
stockpile as much as possible, and then when it's time
for me to finally get on stage and go rock,
go rock, and just go do it. But I can't
wait till that day man where I can get on
stage and I can just stretch you out and just
I know wherever I'm going, I'm going somewhere where I
could do two hours straight no interruption.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Just do you do you stockpile by like post it
or just your phone, my phone.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
I voice record or just jotted down or whatever. And
uh yeah, I just stockpil put it all together and
put it all together.

Speaker 6 (01:16:56):
And it's no order, there's no nothing. I just got
it all written down. So yeah, I can't wait to
get up to finally go do it, though, But as
of right now, somebody called me recently was like, Yo,
we're doing the show.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
It's gonna be a virtual thing. It's gonna be forty
thousand people.

Speaker 6 (01:17:15):
I was like, nope, really, somebody offered me some big
money and I said, nope.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Really you didn't want to take the risk on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
I haven't tried it. I have to go buy it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Okay, I have This might put you on the spot.
But I always wanted to know, only because Gerrod produced
this special and I never got to ask or gage
a comedian what they thought of Drew Michael's audience list
comedy show at his joint.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yeah, we had Michelle wolf on. She hated it. She
hated it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
She was like Michelle wolf I asked Michelle about that
about it was Drew Michael.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Drew Michael did an HBO special where he did a
comedy show with no audience and you know, you're right, Michelle.
And I asked Dave about it as well, and you know,
he said, yeah. The first thing I said to him
was like, I hated it. But it was almost like
it was almost like watching somebody that grew up on

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like East Coast Illmatic and.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
You know, like try call quests.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
It's like asking them what they think of the new
like Migos or Little Baby album.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
You know, where.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
You know it's it was definitely weird to watch, like
to watch somebody do comedy with no audience whatsoever, But.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Clearly that shit predict itself.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Yeah, but clearly I think you know, the sign of
true art is when something that you're not supposed to
do becomes the norm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
So, but I mean, would you I've never I've went
online and done jokes with no audience just to camera.
They're like fifteen minutes. I've done that before, but just
trying out new material stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
But to go up and to film a.

Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
Special with no audience, to me personally, I get it.
You want to you want to flip the script, do
something different, see push if it sticks or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
I get.

Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
I commend them on that. I haven't seen it. I
didn't even know what it was. I haven't seen it,
but I commend him for trying something. But me personally, man,
that's like, that's like, that's like masturbation.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
It was like he masturbated, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:19:55):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Everybody you need, you need, you need an audience.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Yeah, I think because I think specifically for stand up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Woman need a man.

Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
A man need a woman in order to make this
thing happen to do that, but for stand up, if
you out there by yourself and no audience. Me personally,
I thrive off of that. I thrive off of hearing
an audience. That's why I'd rather a person boo rather

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than don't say nothing at all, because that quietness kills me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
I can't. I can't take the quiet like that. I rether.

Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
I gotta have some noise or something. But I can
play off of that or something. I can play off
of it something. I mean, I don't want to be
booed at all. Yeah, because the thing is with silence.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
But silence I think for like a for a comedian
like I would compare it as an EMC is like
silence is like a three mic rating in the source,
like when the source us the source right, It's like
three mics.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Is like idio.

Speaker 5 (01:21:00):
It's kind of inn and like I'd rather either if
niggas ain't just laughing, you know, out their seats, which
would be like a five mic, or if they booing you,
which is a one mic like you kind of I
enjoy being on those ends because at least that no
you would listen, you listen to a real reaction, just.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
That middle of the road ship. She ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:21:23):
I'll tell you this though to Steve Harvey taught me
this as well. Though it all depends on how you
play siting. Silence can work good too, like if you
can make a whole room, if you can make a
whole room silent, that's just as good as a laugh too,
because they engaged.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
So it it all depends on how you play with
that silence. And I just thought about that too, Like if.

Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
I can go into a room full of people and
I can go you know what, I do that on
purpose to lie, just to I act like I'm thinking,
but I'm actually listening to see how quiet it is,
to see if I got everybody, and then I go
into a joke or whatever. It's a control the time
of life like that, like a timment. But like I
do that a lot, just to kind of test the

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room or whatever, just to see who's engaged and who
not or itever. But when it comes to like doing
the joke and the joke don't work, you can give
me silence at first.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
But if I do three jokes in the role and
they not working, and you.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
Silent, like I'm gonna need somebody to go bring your
nigga something somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Nobody got going I want.

Speaker 6 (01:22:28):
My money back or something money something, tell me something, niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
That's pressure though, Like right now, right now, at the
tonight show, we're allowed by the state to have ten
people in the audience.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Yes, So it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Uh, the thing is I liked I liked.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Doing the show when it was just us with ourselves.
It felt like a public access show. It's like Wayne's World,
and when jokes didn't work, then we just laugh at
each other and it was actually funnier than if the
joke work. But it's a different thing when you have

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ten people in the audience because it's like we're kind
of using the old model of what the show used
to be, but only for ten people. And like if
something doesn't work and it's a slow laugh, then it's
like it's just harder to navigate.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
When you post that way. Employees like Wendy do we do.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Like we oh, it's it's half employees.

Speaker 5 (01:23:35):
Well, I mean because thirty Rocks is such a big
building that you know, there's other shows, so like like today, uh,
Lawrence Scalliot who does traffic in the morning on NBC,
like she was part of the audience, so like people
will come in on their lunch break from like MSNBC,
c NBC like those.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Those they're not worried about losing their jobs. You need
people's staff.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
They get it up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Acting.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
I see what you mean.

Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
Now, yes it is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
I have a question. No it's Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Yeah, Steve, you're no Hanigha stories.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
We ain't talked about the holidays, clear Stee. I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:24:19):
So with regards to this like stockpile of jokes that
you've been writing, presumably since February or March and haven't
been able to are you worried about any of it,
like being dated by the time you get to tell
it on stage, or like you know, or or you
specifically like trying to write stuff that will still make sense,
you know, whenever you get to go back on stage.

Speaker 6 (01:24:40):
Oh well that's that's that's that's the beauty of how
long it takes me to write. I don't you know,
I can't just write some ship like that, Like I
was just telling you, like, if I think a joke
too simple, I ain't fucking with it, like I just
I just if I feel like I think people thinking
like that that they're gonna come up with something like that.

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I'm just I'm just not gonna fuck with it. So
what I write is evergreen, sure, and I make sure
I try to make sure everything I write is ever green.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
My shit be.

Speaker 6 (01:25:10):
Simple, my should be like, my shit be My shit
is like I was talking to Jamie Fox one time
and Jamie told me he was going to do a special,
but after seeing my special, he was like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
I threw my shit away. He was like, because damn
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
He said, I don't want to be Jamie Fox, the celebrity.
He said, I want to be the motherfucker that's relatable.
And he was like, and that's what cole harted was
to me, it was relatable and I was like, I
was like, yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
My shit, I was talking about, man, you ever get
god glory for a parking space?

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Like like you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
Like my shit is like simplistic, like where everybody can get.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
It wasn't no celebrity shit, but none of it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:00):
It was like parking space, do you ever motherfucker don't
want to pay the bill? Like it was like like
very simple ship that that everybody can relate to. And
that was a lane that I knewdn't didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Really didn't exist. So that's how I write, and I
write like that to this day. Simplicity is key with me,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:26:26):
So as far as writing all this COVID shit and
Black Lives Matter shit, do I have that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
I got? I do have some of that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:35):
But my job and what I'm going to do is
when I do hit the stage, I'm gonna spend every
bit of fucking seven minutes on that ship and I'm
off of it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
And it's the same way I look at the same
way with being an MC.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
It's like, if you're writing rhymes, yeah, you could go
on Twitter and look at the trending topics or whatever
and just make that shit rhyme and it'll be hot today,
you know what I'm saying. But after that, like, yeah,
you have to write stuff this ever green.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Yeah, you don't want to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:27:09):
So the stuff that I write, man, and that's why
I take me so so loan to write. It's like
the stuff that I'm doing is like like I got
a new bit that I'm working on now about women's
needs and ship you know, just how they how I'm
quite sure they miss him, But.

Speaker 11 (01:27:27):
I ain't gonna go no, first he's okay, yes, like like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
D s no, older women needs just that. But but yeah,
like I said, topics like.

Speaker 6 (01:27:46):
That, I ever agree, a women's need is gonna go
out all the time and there's gonna be something that
you can always use at all time. I talk about
classic bags when when they throw the motherfuckers away?

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
How big you got a closet full of the motherfuckers
when you're gonna throw them away? Or how to use them?

Speaker 6 (01:28:05):
So it's so so y never right, So no, all
right where it's ever green, you know, and it'll be
and it'll be around for a while. So yeah, I'm
not worried about I'm not worried about that at all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
You know, I didn't think you're worried. I just wanted
to ask you. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no,
not at all. I kid. I'm just saying, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:28:31):
Anytime I think it's something that's funny, that's like in
the moment, I probably try to make a video for
the text it, tweet it out or whatever and put
it out like that. But as far as materials concerned,
I got a few of them jokes that I'm going
to do definitely, But After seven minutes of that, I'm

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off of it. How do you like even with my special,
even when my comedy is special, I ain't talk about
no politics, I ain't talk about none of that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
I ain't talking about none, none of it.

Speaker 6 (01:29:04):
My ship is like on the whole, it's everything is
just really simple, simple and basic. I ain't say one
thing about no organizations, no politics.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Ain't contracts, no food, no.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
So how do you are you?

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
How leary are you in going to these spots, especially
in Hollywood, where I'm almost certain that it's easy for
someone like is biting?

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Still?

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Is that a thing that comedians have to worry? Indeed?

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Man, it is.

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
That's that's just so, that's just so terrible in the game, man,
they bite that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
So people are like intentionally biting and joking like.

Speaker 6 (01:29:46):
Absolutely, And let me say this too, because I don't
want to be missical, screwed or whatever. Those that do
do current events stuff like that, man, and the ones
that do it great man, love to them, and they
do it amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
I'm not saying that that is the wrong way to
do it at all.

Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
I'm just saying the way that I write, like I
I can't write like that, But I don't, yeah, because
it's great, like ship Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle should be
like top of cool as hell, and that motherfucker be
crushing that ship the way that he put it out there,
you know. But it's for the moment, it's for the time,

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and and but you can listen to it forever.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
That's that's the genius. That's the genius about there.

Speaker 6 (01:30:28):
You can listen to that ship forever and remember that
moment in time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
So I'm never knocking that on people who do that.
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:30:37):
It's comics that do a lot of ship that I
can't do. Corey holcom is one of the most ignorant,
ignorant motherfuckers you ever go see do it, but.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
As hell more ignorant than neighbors.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Or I don't know about them.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
But Cory Cory a wild boy, who's this Cory CORYL
Cory holkme.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Is the most clever, funny motherfucker you. I can't do
what Corey do. Well.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
Corey had a joke, he had it on his special.
He opened up this guy. It wasn't even a joke,
it was just he just opened up and his first
thing got his mouth. Shout out all the fat bitches
riding dick with T shirts like I was like, Yo.

Speaker 6 (01:31:25):
Cory, Cory be ignorantly dope, clever, fucking funny ship y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
I can't do that, but man, what he could do
that ship wear with his eyes closed.

Speaker 6 (01:31:39):
And that's why he one of the fucking goats in
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Man. Shout out to Corey too, got a special.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Now called COVID. I got one day ago. What the fu? Yeah,
my boy?

Speaker 5 (01:31:56):
We saw Hookham at at Charlie Good Nights, this club
down out here Raley last ye year for the last.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Week and Corey started together in Chicago. Shout out to.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Is there a way? Not for nothing? Since we talked
about this and it is COVID. It's interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:32:12):
Everybody ain't at Dion's dad is like, how are the
comedians doing as used to? Like touring, and like, how
do you support your favorite comedian in these times?

Speaker 6 (01:32:22):
Like, man, it's hard, man, it's hard on everybody. Man,
it's hard. I don't I don't understand really how it's
working for a lot of people. Man, you know I
think about that a lot too. I'll be thinking like, man.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
It ain't no music matters for comedians.

Speaker 7 (01:32:41):
It ain't no like what is no R and B
foundation like residuals.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
You ain't been in nothing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
The red states that are open though, like Florida is
open for business, Atlanta is open.

Speaker 6 (01:32:55):
Yeah, in a.

Speaker 4 (01:32:58):
Club with people laughing and your face, risk your.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Life life like, but what do you to do though? Too?
You know you got to make a living. You gotta
make money. It's like, you know, you gotta do what
you got to do whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:33:12):
And now I don't knock nobody doing what they got
to do in order to get.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
It, but it is hard out here.

Speaker 6 (01:33:16):
It's hard, man, because I'm quite sure if they had
other options they were using, you know, so you know,
shut out to all the comics that still grinding and
stay safe, man, stay safe.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Do you do you miss late night life at all?

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Or was that just a nice experience you had? You
was talking about late late nights as far as writing
for television, writing for Cony.

Speaker 6 (01:33:40):
You know what, there's moments when I'm missing in this
moments that I don't me being the only black writer
for Coning and probably the fourth black writer in the
history of late night That shit was like, that was
the part that I.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Really I wasn't. I wasn't feeling that shit at all,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:33:59):
But my story was so crazy because those that kind
of shitted on me, they ended up happening to write
for me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
So I flipped that.

Speaker 6 (01:34:08):
I flipped the game on them, Like I went from
trying to write like them to them writing for me
for Coning, and so that's what I was saying, for
like Coning and shit like they had to write bits
for me and shit, you know, and they had to
write it in my voice, which is the same voice
that I was trying to write. And the get go
that they was shitting on me about when I was

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trying to get it to Coning.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
So I don't miss that kind of shit, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:34:33):
But I do miss I do miss the excitement of
having a great show and certain guests come through. You'd
be excited to see him and hang out and shit
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Shit was cool too, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:34:45):
But Late Night was rigorous, man as far as coming
up with material. Every night, new material, and then it
was almost like a competition with other writers. You had
to see if your shit get on TV and come
up with a bit that was repetitious enough for him
to use it every every week, every month or whatever. Yeah,

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that was that was grueling, but it made me. It
helped me to this day to be like just sharp
like that in order to like come up with something
quickly because we had to do that for like, I
wrote for ConA.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
For eight years. So yeah, uh, it definitely sharpened my sword.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
I wanted to ask you to man.

Speaker 5 (01:35:29):
You you produced the one woman show for my Girlftari. Yeah, yeah,
man maor we work on the Sherman showcase together and
we worked and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
Man, So I was curious, though, is that something you
look to do more of, maybe like producing more.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
Artists.

Speaker 6 (01:35:49):
Well, I am switching gears and I would definitely come
back on here and talk to y'all. And I hate
I hate niggas. That'd be like, I tell you what
it is.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
Listen, you walk up your bang, do not up the
bat big ship like that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
That's what it's real.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Bad.

Speaker 6 (01:36:14):
Yeah I'm doing man, I just dove into something. I
just produced this film. Executive produced this film and my
partner Kelly Kelly Kelly, who's a fantastic director, director, and writer.
We collabed on a couple of scripts that we're doing. Man,
and uh, it's been amazing journey. Uh we got a

(01:36:38):
lot of good stuff coming out. And uh man, that's
all I can say about that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
That's all you need to say. Bro, say no.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
I ran. I ran into Marlon Wayne's in the club Man,
and he changed my whole.

Speaker 6 (01:36:53):
Thought process as far as like writing content, because people too,
is he complaining about what they not getting?

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
But you're not writing.

Speaker 6 (01:37:04):
Nothing for yourself. You're not even writing nothing for for
who you are. Like, you gotta at least write something
and show people what you what you what you buy.
I don't care if it's a TV show, talk show, movie,
whatever it is. If you can't just sit back going,
I hope they give me something. You gotta show them
what they gotta give you. So therefore, if you write
that down and you give it to them, then yo,

(01:37:25):
it's gonna be our love.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
I'm in New York.

Speaker 6 (01:37:28):
I'm at this club right and I'm doing a movie
for Netflix, this Christmas movie, and I'm out there in
the club Marlon Wayne's walking crew.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
They all sitting up in this section. I see Marlin.
I go over there.

Speaker 6 (01:37:39):
I'm like, Marlon, we hugging it out and all this
shit Marlin like, yo, what you're doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
And why?

Speaker 12 (01:37:43):
I'm like, man, doing this movie. And he was like, oh, man, congratulations,
man your movie. And I said no, no, I'm just
doing this movie for Netflix. And he was like, okay,
you produced it. I was like, nah, no, I'm just
I'm just you know, I'm just starting it. He was like,
oh you started. It's all you starting.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
And he was like, but you showed it to him, right,
And I'm like, no, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
No, I'm just the movie.

Speaker 6 (01:38:12):
He was like this, Oh okay, he said, but it
ain't shrure us.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
I'm like, I'm like na. He was like why. He
was like, so he said, he said, so you just
gonna keep doing movies for everybody. You're gonna keep being
funny for everybody and and not and not for you.

Speaker 6 (01:38:39):
And so I was like, I mean, ship man, I
mean I hear what you're saying. But he was like, no,
I don't think you do. He was like, dude, you
one of the funniest motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
In the game. And he was like, are you still
making other people funny?

Speaker 6 (01:38:53):
It was like he was like, dude, if you don't
write you a movie or a show or something for yourself. Man,
and he was like, they don't know. You said, they
can say whatever they want to say about me. He
was like, they just say my movie is horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
They great.

Speaker 6 (01:39:06):
He was like, as long as they my movie, I
rolled on. I produced them a hard that. He was like,
they mind And he was like, and my budget steadily
going up constant and I just froze and he was like,
but yo, man, next time I see you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:39:23):
He was like, man, I hope I hope you write
you something. And I said, man, thank you very much.
Left left his section, went back over to the to
the to the chicks and and my boy, and was like,
I'll talk to y'all. Letter hopped in the cab, went
to my hotel room and just laid there and stared

(01:39:44):
at the wall. Yo, and was just like andbarrassed. I
was a barrassed. I just I didn't even want to
be out no more. I was embarrassed because motivated what
from that day I've been writing And.

Speaker 7 (01:40:00):
So you did that right in this moment, in this moment,
I mean it for me, but I don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
But I'm just I don't say that.

Speaker 6 (01:40:10):
I'm telling you like like when Marlin hit me with
that Marlon He couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
He couldn't even fathom. He just kept going, it's yours, right,
I'm like, no, oh, so you wrote it? No, okay,
so you produced it. I'm like no, motherfucking no. He
like like what do you mean? Like what do you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
And some ship and you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
And when and when and when I left Marlin.

Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
From that day on, I've been right and write write
these scripts and like right now, we just finished one
of the movies that we wrote, wet.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
We wrote another one. We got another one on the
way that we write and get it and we just
shot one of the movies. We just finished it.

Speaker 6 (01:40:56):
And that's why I was looking at your page too,
and I want to congratulate you on your film opening
up Sundance boy, y'all that's how you got.

Speaker 11 (01:41:08):
Thanks class, yo, that's how that's how you got to
do that, dude.

Speaker 6 (01:41:20):
I'm telling you, Like, when I seen your page, I
was like, I'm right behind man, I'm right behind you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Quest like you got to do it, and you got
to do it from your point of view and how
you want to do that? Ship done? You know what
I mean? Yo?

Speaker 7 (01:41:33):
Man, this is the greatest subconscious masterclass that I've ever
been apart.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
I was going to say, like with the way that
Kenya's popping off all these issues, like surely there's has
the conversation ever happened with you having your own vehicle
for a show, So no, no, no, I'm just saying
that I feel like you're the next You're the fourth

(01:42:02):
issue that should be coming.

Speaker 6 (01:42:04):
So so so Lawrence and Jennifer. They have their spin off,
Grownish that they shooting right now. Oldest old I'm sorry,
Oldest Grownish.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
They had me.

Speaker 6 (01:42:18):
We agreed that I would go to Grownish and we
kicked the show off and like work with them until
the show kicked off and then you know, we go
from there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
So I was great.

Speaker 6 (01:42:30):
I was you know, it was great for me to
work on that show for like three years. But then
when they hit the fourth year, the kids was graduate,
so they're not going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
In the school. Me being a dean at the school,
wasn't that makes sense too much? Some more like that.

Speaker 6 (01:42:45):
So then I was like, you know what, you know,
we we I'm an exit or whatever and we're still
cool or whatever. But as far as my own show
with Kenya producing, it never never, it never was brought
up Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
I feel like that's the's a layup.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, it was never never brought up.

Speaker 6 (01:43:08):
It was it was just always like I said, he
sent me over the Growners to kick Growner shop, and
then when Gronish stopped flourishing with the kids, was getting
down on the own, then I departed from there. And
then yeah, I just all right, well then.

Speaker 7 (01:43:27):
Interesting because you popped off grown Its like there was
a reason that Charlie needed to be on campus.

Speaker 6 (01:43:33):
Yeah, it was a reason why I had to be there,
you know, so so so it was all good.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
But then once once the chemistry and the kids.

Speaker 6 (01:43:39):
It's amazing, they got it. Think, yeah, it was you know,
it was time for me to step off. But uh,
it was great. It was a great opportunity and all
of that. And as far as like yeah, but as
far as like him coming to me going, yo, you
a spin off show, we never had that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
All right, well, I'm putting out there he needs his own.

Speaker 7 (01:44:01):
Marlon, his own don't want to come back here.

Speaker 6 (01:44:09):
We doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Yeah, but thank you, Dion, thank you so much. Man.
This this is his EPISO Educate Edumacational.

Speaker 4 (01:44:19):
Questions, Episode A mirror. He's family.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
Second, go round and remember.

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
And not but nothing.

Speaker 7 (01:44:25):
I'm trying to remember, but it was nothing one that
helped us book Dion on the first episode in l.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
A she might have been.

Speaker 6 (01:44:32):
I think she might have been nothing monster to people
don't know about.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
Thank you for doing the show. Uh. Oh by the way, Uh,
this will be on for the holidays. Correct, Yes, the
holidays show. It's just okay.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
It's the most on holiday holiday show. Send yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Speaking of holidays, let me remind people that I'm actually
involved with three movies with the title Soul in it
and one opens on Christmas Disney plus Soul. I am
a Pixar character, a real Pixar character, Jamie Fox and
Tina Fey and dav Diggs and Angela Bassett and Felicia Sad.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
It's it's amazing. I hope you guys enjoyed this show.

Speaker 5 (01:45:16):
I'm sorry, Go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
And and also shout out to Belvini for a for
our spirits.

Speaker 4 (01:45:28):
I drink half of you tonight and I know Steve did.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:45:34):
PS big up to Dion who does not who does
drink responsibly and does not drink. I just wanted to
pick you up at that funny because there's some little spirits.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
And sober no.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
But you know, let's have a prosperous uh twenty one
and uh you know and and put we're gonna will
Dion's empire.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
To the universe appreciate exactly. All right, thank you all many. Hey,
this is Sugar Steve. Make sure you keep up with
us on Instagram.

Speaker 11 (01:46:20):
At q l s.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
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Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
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