Jason Sudeikis

Is There a Year to Review? with Jason Sudeikis

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but like it's they do this. They type like a
police police officers want all right, I'm gonna bring Jason

(01:02):
in the place in all right. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
we've come to that time of the year again. You know,
guys were creeping up on our fifth year as a family.
I believe that ship is crazy. When we started right
swing sixteen, Yeah, I kind of feel like, um, it's

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always weird. Like I always feel like we're on our
proverbial like second year going into maybe the third year. Like,
but we're we're about to be half a half a
decade uh deep in this. We're no longer the bell
of the ball, you know, straight up, I feel like
someone's gonna be like anymore, I can't believe you're still

(01:45):
doing this after I did not think I would be
doing this for five years when I agree. When Sean
called me and was like, hey, you want to do this,
I was like, yeah, I didn't think. Couple of months,
right episode and nobody can fine. That's the same way
Alex Alec Baldwin felt about playing Trump. It just sneaks

(02:07):
somebody many exactly, the fact that no one's like, why
Trump didn't like look into Alec Baldwin being the one
that would have voted multiple times just so he wouldn't
have to play him anymore. It seems like that's where
I would have gone. If anybody's pulling those levers and
making those you know, connecting those dots, it's gonna be

(02:28):
Alec Baldwin. Alright. So uh, I was about to say
that it's it's our this is our year ender episode,
and as usual, we bring in a spirit a very
special guest with us to sort of trade off the
review of the year. Um this year of course being

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unlike any other year we've ever had, so this will
probably be a less about movies TVs and and and
you know records that we've got into even though we'll
talk about it, but always good to have an outside
voice into our circle. It's one of my favorite cats.
Of course, you know his legacy from s and now

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and of course, um, I mean it comes from the
school of of Second City. We've seen all of his films.
Name him from Horrible Bosses Too, all past the colossal.
I'm like going off the top shot him out. Yeah.
I was gonna say, like when it when it's like
real friends, I don't do the preppy thing. But I

(03:36):
appreciate that. You know what that actually says how lazy
I am Because I someone a friend of mine who
I knew for seven years hits me last night at
one in the morning and she says, oh my god,
you're the group that does you got me wow? And

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I was like, wait each other for seven years? What
exactly do you know me for? Well? Yeah, she said,
like I know Jimmy Falloner. Know. She tried to blame
it on it, but she's like thirty something, but no, no, no, no,
no no. But there's this thing we we should all

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everyone in this room has some sort of ne variety
where you have that one person that just wants to
go the extra mouth to neg you, you know, like
act like they don't care, like I know you as
a mirror. That's I get that more than anything in life. Like,
but my thing is that is not humbling like that.

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That's not like you're not getting a gold star because
like you're not going to figure out who I am.
But anyway, I digressed. My whole point was that I should,
even with friends come on the show, I should prep
and have their history ready and treat it as regularly
guess not just go off the top. But you know
and drum I'm I'm a fan as well. Anyway, please

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welcome to Jason, because well I want to. I want
to do Jason simply because um when we get to
the TV portion, uh yeah. The one show that I
did not expect uh to be on my Wow that
was cool Bingo list was definitely Ted Lasso, Like, I

(05:24):
had no idea how cool that show was got you
very amazing. If I had, if I hadn't been there
the whole time I have been with you, I'd be like,
what does this dog shit? But but I had I
had a good view of super to nuts on that
whole thing, and I was kind of this motherfucker take up. Yeah, no,

(05:47):
it's it's thank you, No it is it isn't man,
all right, So okay, what I want to do is
uh some rapid fire. I know we usually have our
list ready we go in the circle. But you know
some of us can add to these things. Some of
us don't have to answer you. But I will start
with like, damn, lean back. I lean back, like I

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know I'm being a cut I'm gonna wait, okay here,
I come on. Okay, so we'll start with an easy one.
Give yourself some props in I I got two more jobs. Yes, yes,

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you did. Did just trying to be like my brothers,
well all of y'all. Actually my fucker's on here from
Steve here to Fante to build. Yeah, I'm like, yeah,
yeah jobs. Next Bill Sherman, I became a homeschooling almost alcoholic,

(06:55):
supposed to be positive. I think that's that's Bill. You
don't know, Bill, guess what? Same? Yeah, but I don't
with it. Yeah, who's going out? Okay? Hey yo? Same?

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Just step Dad? Now, can you, I mean, can you
remember like like thinking about like July August, how jingly
all of our recycling bags were taking them out to
the track and it was starting recycling like he was starting.

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I was like, what is going on? I pull it
out because normally there would be paper in there. They're
like Amazon boxed, is something to cut it? No, just
glass on glass on the Warrior right exactly. Ux wine Makers.
They stepped it up this year. I just wanted to
also say, oh yeah, school geographic spelling. But ship uh

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in um um um. I think I just I got
to the route. Just a lot of stuff. Um. I
finally had time. I think, like a lot of people,
I finally had time just to really sit still and
think about things. And so I just cleaned up a
lot of stuff in my life. Um, just a lot
of things that a lot of old behaviors, a lot

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of old you know, thought patterns, a lot of practices. Um.
I'm in the middle now, in the present now, like
selling my town house, like I had like rental property
and I was like, yeah, I've got real property and that.
But I realized I want to be the landlord. Dude.
Like this ship, you know, I mean anything that gets
in the way of me getting to the chair and
working on my craft. That ship I get the funk
out of here. Yeah, that was a big thing for me. Okay, Sugar,

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Steve a haircut. Yeah, man came in. He came in
with the number two on the ball shop charts. Can
we ask about this haircut, Steve? Yeah, he got confidence.
But people are fascinated like haircuts. Dude, you know what

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I'm saying. You bring back the Tom Hanks bosom buddy three. Look,
I think that's the cut up. That's the uncle ned
He bringing back the uncle ned Tom Hanks from the cut.
That's the cut up haircut. Oh, I don't understand. He
got new sugar. I'm going to get ladies or something.

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Look at me, Steve. Anytime a woman enters the stratosphere,
everything changes. We get a haircut. We got sexy has
lights in the background, district haircut. At the end of
the day, Steve, it looks good man, you look younger. Well,

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the real story is my dad. It's it's apparently still
thinks it's nineteen two and it's okay to tell tell
your son to cut his hair. Uh, this is what
he wanted for hankin condition. When you know what your
own gift know this haircut is five is a five

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figure haircut looked out for everybody. Was it was a
good time. Um, he really made him happy. So whatever
this hair? So what's the question? Yeah, I I I

(11:02):
didn't drop dead. That's great. Yeah, that's goods Okay, I
didn't start drinking and uh and uh. I put out
a couple of records, and most importantly was able to
continue to to work and go to work. Yeah man,

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you know, well yeah, continuously working, but then being able
to go back to thirty rocks around when shell I
or something like that, when do we go back? Is
that that? Because I was a long answer. Half my aunt,
half my aunt. We're talking, yeah, harrogate, you know. Okay,

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well great, that's great, all right, Jason give I. Um,
I put on thirty pounds and then I took off
thirty pounds. Hey, looking pretty good over there. I appreciate
that you but no, I mean it's something yeah, because

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it was it was a slow it was a slow
march towards it. And then I stepped on a scale
and I came in. I was coming in at two
oh five, which is, you know, outside my comfy zone,
and yet I was I was rocking, you know, mostly
shorts and hoodies, so you can you kind of don't
feel it, but I knew that I wasn't feeling myself.
And then over the last like yeah, over the last

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you know, six weeks, I just kind of like got
you know, got after it and was like let's we
gotta we gotta endwy on the make and so yeah,
but it it wasn't like it wasn't a it was
it was it was more emotional stuff and you know,
uh like I mean, yes, a little bit of diet
and and a little bit of being active, but it
was mostly just kind of like just yeah, just like

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you know, like you were saying about, you know, turning
off some of the noise and just kind of like, okay,
what's what what have I got doing? Get back get
back to feeling yourself and then you know, not soon
after that you can actually see yourself again. Time. So okay,
good did you take when you were taping too? So
did you did you take the weight off before then
or prior to them? Like when we did we we

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shot all that last fall like basically you know, mid
like August to mid November, so it was pretty much
a steady, a steady in in into this, you know,
because because you know, having a regiment, you know, where
you wake up, you know, you have your yogurt, you know,
then you drink a bunch of water through the day,
like it's when you know, it's when I started to
go off the clock, and you know, then it was editing, uh,
and then it was you know the writer's zoom, you know,

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which I'm less inclined to, you know, funk around snacks
when they're right in front of me. But then when
you're at home, then it's like then putting the kids
to bed late and then not eating until ten o'clock
and just on and just oh my god. And it's
just like a pound a week and you don't even
realize it, you know, because your pants are kind of
like going with you just like I'm like, oh no,

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like you know, like between my like like my body
and the like. Yeah. I was just like, no, this
is this, This cannot cannot continue. So that's why Peloton
is making a killing. Who this week somebody knew this
week out a Peloton exactly. Okay, So from a one

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to ten, how much did you change from one to ten?
How much did you change? My inner self? Like my
inner inner self, you know, what I'm gonna say. I
feel so bad and saying this in this whole COVID

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life has a five. I'm gonna say a five because
my change is more being physical and being and being
still so it's more so I'm gonna say five. Yeah,
this is the first time I really felt like I
lived in California because you weren't traveling so much. Yeah,
because I was always traveling and going back and forth
to the East Coast and whatnot. So but you know

(14:58):
you missed traveling or well I'm sure now, well, yeah
I miss I was just thinking the other day. I
was like, I missed us in a room recording together.
I missed my parents, I missed people who did I
missed East Coasters like that love. I just missed Yeah, yeah,
I missed like airplane WiFi, you know, or or watching

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a movie you never would pick normally, because like Jason,
I was going to tell you, that's a good way
to pick with you some of your favorite movies of
the year. It was like, yeah, and yet and yet yeah,
Like I went back to New York from you know,
to play you know, the last time I played Joe Biden,
like and whatever. It was January February, right before the code,
you know, COVID the lockdown, And I can't tell you

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what the hell I did on that. I probably watched
cuts of ted Lasso because I was in the middle
of that. Yeah, I was looking at my I opened
my Regal app the other day and to see because
I was thinking, like, what was the last movie I
saw on it? Dude, I could I literally could not
remember the last one we saw. We went and saw
the photograph, um the and yeah, you know your top

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tenle is of the best movie probably but on cable
to other day the cinematography is beautiful, No, it looks great,
but but yeah, but I saw it. That was the
last one. And I really had to look that up
because I could not remember for ship what it was. Yeah,
I was gonna say, I do miss Jeff Blue movies

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And yeah you didn't. You didn't answer your own question,
Mr Love. Yeah, I I changed, Okay college a lot.

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How didn't change? How How did you change? I mean,
we see the Weight, we saw the Weight Lows, congrats
on that. I saw that. Just in general, Man, I
never slowed down, you know, I was challenged to just
like I'm I'm the king of no which is also
makes me the king of certainty. Like, if there's something

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I want in life, it's certainty, which is why I like, oh,
three jobs, I'll take that. Wait, i'll take that, nineteen jobs,
I'll take that. So I should tell you my whole
my whole life is based on certainty and survival and
that sort of thing. I just I believe people would
call that a trauma response. Yes, no, bullshit, right, which

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is okay. So here's here's the thing. So this year,
with with with the, with the with one of the
records that I listened to this year, you know, Prince
released the UM Deluxe edition of Sign at the Times
m H. And so I have a different relationship with
that record because there's a period between ninth and eleventh

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grade in which my parents either had the option to
have gas on in the house or I go to
this particular school. They sacrifice to put me in a
particular school so to not have hot water and gas
and all those embarrassing things that teenagers go through, like
let's go to your house. No, no, no, no, you can't,

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you can't do that. How can we never get to
go to your house? And here, uh, let's go to
your career. You know, that's sort of thing you say
you had all the souldieres. No, I don't just anything
anything did not show you how much, you know, because
those you know, they were like not snobby rich kids

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or whatever, but they were like at the middle middle class.
Motherfucker they got one extra roll of toilet paper under
the middle class day. The day that Sign of the

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Times came out in March of eighty seven was the
day that we got our gas back on, so to
go from like eighty four to eighties seven. Like, not
that taught me such a lesson, but that the lesson
I learned when we finally had like hot water on
in the heat and the house, like there was a
never again chip that just set off of me that

(19:32):
I never let go, never go through that never again,
Like I don't care. Like even like before you had
asked me like what are your life goals in me?
And I say like, okay, I'd like to do no,
no not to achieving, no, do this project. If you
would have asked me, like maybe four years ago, what's
your life coal, it would probably just been never to

(19:53):
go back? Two life on O Sage Avenue. I think
I think never again is a big motivator, like like
if you when you hit that, like I know, I'm
dealing with the never again personally. I know, and I
can think of the immediate never again. It's never allowed
me to take a job just for money. I remember
that clear as day, and it was like, never again,

(20:13):
will I do that? It was why didn't mean to
cut you off? But I just I just I was
I could. I'll tell that story. Let me let me
take it from here, let me say no, but but
but but I believe that. I think that never again
is a powerful thing, even almost more so than like
when you achieve a dream like to like I'm never
gonna go back to that again. I'm never gonna go

(20:33):
back to those patterns. But for me, they're never taking
a money gig. I was doing comedy sports in Kansas City.
I did this thing called, uh like an improv thing,
and my buddy Corey ran the you know, ran the office,
and he gets a call from like a you know,
a company to do a corporate gig where it's like, hey,
you know, you'll you'll dress up like you know, Egyptian
pharaohs and you'll you'll carry in the person you know,
like almost like Cleopatri style, like you know, the CEO

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or whatever, and it's like, okay, great, and it's like
it'll be two hundred bucks like a half hour. It's like,
oh that's great. I lived with my parents, but that
was all CD money, you know in DVDs. Show up
there and they give us a costume. And this is
right after I was playing college basketball, so like I
was in you know, about as good as shape I've
ever been in my life. Uh. And it was like
it was like a loincloth and like like like a
you know, like whatever, you know, necklace like Ruth Pader

(21:17):
Ginsburg kind of thing. Uh. And then like these things
and basically I had to be like half naked, you know,
in the middle around all these people and walk in
and I was like, I was like, I hated it.
I hated it with a passion. And I was like
I am never like because I had the whole reason
I do it, because its two bucks for thirty minutes.
And I was like, I'm never doing that again. I'm
never taking a job solely for the money. And that

(21:37):
was never again. And that happened at age nineteen. You know.
I think with me though, and even with the premises
of like my earliest book, or at least with two
of them. I know that I've stayed at especially in
the Creativity book where I talked about deciding what you
wanted to be in life is first Like David Byrne

(21:58):
gave me advice where he says, well, first all decide
what you're not. And I used to go by that,
but I think deep seated that was there. That was
my glass half half empty approach because I never asked
myself once what would make me happy? M hm? You know?
So you know I I know you'all tired in eye

(22:22):
roll and every time I want to know, what did
you come to a conclusion? Did you come to? I
know that you're all tired of me always like deferring
the grace, like you know, because you have to make
the change. You just can't say like my girlfriend made
me do. But no, she just challenged me. She's like,
you you live, you live your life by I don't

(22:45):
want to get canceled, and I don't want to fall off,
and I don't want to be broke. I don't want
to be ignored during the war season. She's like, what
do you want to do? Like if you're living by defense.
You can't fly. And then once once I felt it
was once I felt it was safe enough, provided the

(23:06):
time period where I felt it was safe enough, two
because we were all in the same time, and then
it's like, okay, well what would you like to do?
And so that's that's why I'll say that that's where
that's a yeah. I said this recently when we were
just talking about like like the concern of like me

(23:27):
dealing with with with love. And I'll get into this
when I get my answer, but like the notion that
you'll be afraid of making that choice of going for
what you want because like you know, fear of success
and you know it is just as scary as a
fear of failure, right, And so at some point I thought,
I thought, Okay, if I was completely vulnerable, if I
completely gave over to to something to love, you know specifically, uh,

(23:51):
it would feel like I'm falling, but with just with
just a little bit of understanding. And after you've fallen
for for long enough, I was like, oh, no, no, no,
I'm not falling. I'm actually flying. I'm flying. I'm flying.
And I was I was like and and and that
I mean I said that for the first time, like,
you know, four days ago, and when I said it,
just built it out of my mouth. I was like,
I was like, oh, I mean that like crazy, And

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I had no idea that I was going to say that,
But it makes all the sense in the world to
me because it was a fear of falling. And then
they're just like, no, I'm not falling. It's like I'm
not gonna land anywhere. Yeah, I'm flying. It's just you know,
same sensation, you know, it just the same amount of wind. Yeah.
So what number would you give yourself from one to ten?
How much did you change in me personally? Yeah? Me, Jason,

(24:38):
I mean I would say I would say, you know,
ending ending here at the full extent of the year
at ten. Whoa total very scary, very scary thing. Uh.
At some point, you know, the universe was was encouraged
me to do it and given all given all the indicators, uh,

(24:58):
you know, and I was, you know, just you know,
like wonder Woman just blocking them all just and then
and then and then at some point they just found
the gaps and they're like, no, you're gonna have to
deal with this. We're gonna have to deal with this
in a real, real way and both the highs of
it and the loads of it, you know, internally externally
like from from you know, in a business you know
the side of things and how personal I you know,

(25:21):
take my business and then also the business of my
personal stuff you know, which which you know came home
to roost and it's like yeah, and I'm better for
it and glad it happened. But I'm still on that
Heroler's journey. So it's like, yeah, bring one. I'm ready
for it. You know. Yeah, what's your number? Man? I say? Probably? Um?

(25:45):
I said probably seven eight, probably. Um. It was not
so much. I don't know if it was so much. Well,
it was a big change. It was a big mental
shift just then you know, just things that I you know,
just kind of uncovered in therapy and just you know,
talking through a lot of stuff. But it wasn't so
much a big shift as much as it was just
really just settling into myself and realizing what was really

(26:06):
important to me and what I really like, you know
what I mean. And uh, it's one of a big
kind of revelations I have. Like when we talked about
movies and stuff, you talk about Prints. You know, Um,
I was watching I was thinking about Jazzy Jeff and
he has this thing he always says where he says,
to die empty. When he talks to two creators, he says, Yo,
die empty, die empty. You know what I'm saying, Like
all the stuff you do, you know, write some songs

(26:28):
for yourself, give some songs away, produce something for other people, whatever,
But whenever you go, make sure that you know you're empty, right,
die empty? And I always thought that was amazing. I
was like, Yo, that's great. I believe that. But then
I kind of thought, you know, just during the show,
I was like, you know what, I'm with it, But
to die empty is to die early, you know what
I mean. Like when I looked at all my people,

(26:50):
like when you look at people like Prints, and like
when I watched like the Zappa documentary. You know what
I'm saying the other night. You know, these were guys
that were incredibly prolific, but them niggas die the fifties. Bro,
you know what I'm saying. And it's like I just
had the realization of like, you know, there is no
way with the way my mind works, and just the
way ship has just always coming to me, There's absolutely

(27:11):
no way that I could die empty because I'm always
having There's no way I can write every song that's
in my head, Like, it's just no way possible in
order for me to fully give myself over to that.
I could do it, but literally every aspect of my
life would collapse, you know what I'm saying, Everything else
will collapse, and you know, and and for what for

(27:33):
So for me, it's just a big shift of just
realizing just to get out what you can, but always
make room for the things that are really important. And
you know, it ain't cool to die damn, you know
what I'm saying. And that was just kind of the
big thing for me of just realizing what was important

(27:54):
and just understanding that if you don't write every single
if you don't develop every you know, four hundred voice
note ideas in your phone, it doesn't mean your friend
and gets an artist, you know. I mean, what was
I thinking at the time, Ferid, Yeah, it's like, dude,
you're never gonna you know, just do the ones you
can and then just keep it pushing. That's a goal

(28:14):
to die. Emte feels like like uh, you know, like
seize the day, like it's a great idea on paper,
but like seize the day hanging out with someone that's
like her pay d M, I feel like would be
exhausting as exhausting as bro It's like I'd rather It's
like it's like Andy Kaufman stand up gigs. It's like
I'd rather hear about it than be there for the
whole thing. It's like having Robbins as your friend and

(28:38):
I don't need to be motivated all the time, Like
what's your inside voice? But understand fellas that in this
moment and what you're saying, Fante is so beautiful, But
that is like a goal, like what you're saying, like
to be able to actually sit and say, you know what,
I feel like I've done this and I've done that,
people know and I'm feeling about my family. That is

(28:58):
like that's the gold do it, and to do it
as a young age where you are when people are
usually still in the midst of the struggle of still
trying to get to a one dream done. Like I
just want to say in this moment, like what a
blessing to say that. Let me say that, and let
me say like because I think it goes it would

(29:19):
be kind of toned up to not say this. I mean, listen,
we are all of us on this call. We are
all you know what most consider, you know, financially successful people.
You know what I'm saying. Um, you know we don't
have I'm two years off the couch. I'd like to
remind people why the first thing I said was I
have three jobs because I don't. I never want to
go back to the couch three years ago. Jason, Yeah, money,

(29:41):
I love it. I love it. But with that, but
but even still with all that though, like just hearing
all the stories, I mean, I guess the thing that
I just always stress is like the biggest thing I learned,
because I mean, we all have a never again story.
Rights was you know, you know the couch and you
know the gas and I been there to like having
to heat up you know, water in the in the morning,

(30:04):
to take a wash up before school and having the
oven all that ship. You know what I'm saying. But
the thing is, and how when you grew when you
grow up poor, you think like, okay, man, when I
make money, then I'll be straight. All I need is money, money, money,
And then you get the money and you still realize
that you gotta work on you and so, you know,
a lot of times I think that it The one

(30:25):
thing that gets missed is like that that the conversation
you don't hear is like, yeah, you can make money,
and it's great to have money, and it's fantastic, and
I'm thankful for the money that I made. But your
money can't save you from yourself, you know what I mean.
And well you're about to say, you know what, Those
conversations are hurt a lot, especially in ground with black folks,
because we're just getting to the money, just getting getting

(30:48):
to the money part. We see more money, more problems
because we just thought it was a song. It was like,
let me get there first, all right, So Steve, what's
what's your number? How much I've changed? Well, the haircut
gets me to a five right off the back. Only

(31:11):
up from there. I don't, you know beyond in all seriousness,
I don't. It's okay to not have a life changing experiment.
Some people still live their lives the same way every day.
I mean, I I changed not much, but from the
deaths um I'm in I'm in New York City, And

(31:31):
that whole early period was rough. Um the whole seven
o'clock people going to their windows and balconies. That was all.
That was all very so I'll say I'll say seven. Also,
this is this changed too, Like this wrinkle here is
moving to the right over here, making it that's a

(31:56):
funny thing there, interesting between it's moving moving across. Yeah.
This this is two here, which I call the eleven.
We all kind of get. Then this one kind of
kind of making a right turn over here, and I
think that's new from this year down here. All right, chermon,
what's your number? I don't know. I guess I say

(32:19):
a six or seven. I turned forty this year, I think,
for the first time, like I've been running my whole life, William,
I'm ten years older than you. Yeah, but I don't
have red lights in my room. But I'm Phillips, you know, Philips, Hugh.
Anybody can do it. I turned forty, and I stopped

(32:44):
because I've been running so long. It was nice to
like stop and look around and like, I don't know,
focus on ship that wasn't working and hustling, and it
was just nice to just take a break for a minute.
Like I've been spending a lot of time just about me,
which I never do, like it's just work and work
and working working, and now it's just like not and
it kind of feels good about that. I had to
like regroup, stop drinking at eleven, like ready to go. Okay,

(33:12):
I'm childless. Can you explain to me what is what
is the daily what's the daily grind of a homeschool parent,
especially one in New York? Up seven thirty breakfast, close,
eight am? First zoom call uh at eight thirty two?
Like two, the kids are on zoom. Your school zooms

(33:32):
you first, or you zoom to school. The kids zoom
the school my uh. They work. They break for an
hour for lunch, but at at different times, Like the
devil has lunch of eleven and the other one has
lunch of like one. So it's like a whole Jason,
he has two daughters, and one's the devil and one's
not the devil. That got stop two. You have a

(33:56):
six and a half year old boy Otis and a
little girl, Daisy four. Are they totally different? They are
pretty different? Yeah. Like Daisy is like a puppy and
just like a cat, you know, like she jumps right,
she jumps righting in a pool, you know, he'll take
twenty minutes again and like me, you know, it's not
just me. Uh and then like the devil, she will

(34:22):
be knowing how her mom was as a teenager. We
can already we see that coming. Yeah, it's clear. It's
in her essence. Two thirds three, school and homework, hang out, dinner, tower, bed,
that's the day. And it goes that way perfectly without
any like but that's just what it's supposed to be.

(34:48):
But yeah, that's that's Yeah. Those are those are chords
and you solo around those. It's like there see and
we're playing in like d minor get the clothes, but
it's not like real close. But does that allow you
to do because I mean you also work at Sesame
Street full time. I do, but like, how do you

(35:08):
balance both? Full time is a relative. It's all very
you know, metaphoric and essence by essences. So you're basically
running a lot of reruns right now. Okay, I get it,
I get it. There's a lot going on, just trying

(35:31):
to you know, keep my head above the cloud. I see,
all right. I give myself a six as well, Um,
I give you a hundred and four like like in
every way for the past year six. Man, there's there's
still other lessons. There's like Captain obvious lessons that I'm
learning in front of the world in real time. And

(35:53):
then there's still some ship that I'm stubbornly dealing with,
you know, like when good things happen, I find on
the way to funk it up, and I gotta stopped
doing that. So we were we were wanting to our
gearing review from last year was not. No, it was
not like that. And the fact that I can't remember
that lets you know it's different. You were not just

(36:15):
like man you are now last year. Yeah, dog, we
were just friends back then. You have like the Grace
plus twelve, Like if you're the six, that means an
eight team, because Grace hads I feel like a six. No,
Grace is like a nineties seven. She gets up at
five am already jumping on the trampoline her. I'm not

(36:39):
doing the trampoline. Dog. It sounds to me like everybody
feels you've earned your rick. Rubin marrit bat so yeah,
on the way there, he's got a white, he's got
a red. It's something. Yeah, on the way on the
way there. Okay, so real quick kind of rapidly. When
did you realistically think, quote, this would be over. I

(37:02):
thought this will finally be over October. I thought Halloween
will be back to normal. YadA, YadA, YadA. When did
you think that? Did you think that in March? I
thought that in April? Oh hell yeah yeah. No, I
my on my card. I was already looking at two
like that was my thing because because the thing was dumb,

(37:26):
because man, because the thing was just a bunch of
conspiracy theory. No, I mean because the thing was I guess,
you know, because when we did our last shows, it
was like March of this year. We did Philly and
Baltimore with those are the last two Little Brother shows
we did. And we were even a little skittish about
doing those, you know what I'm saying, because it was
when it was kind of starting but not really. But

(37:48):
we was like, I think we can pull these off.
We had our sanitizing everything, so you know, we checked
in the hotel, we wiped stuff down and it was
cool and everything. Yeah, we was doing that in March
and so then when we got we finished that, um
they called what they didn't call, but that's when they
announced that south By Southwest was canceled, and when they
canceled south By Southwest, if they cancel it, I said,

(38:12):
if they canceled south By Southwest, Coachella is next. And
then if Coachella gets canceled, twenties a fucking wrap dogs
and then it's like, yo, it's a rap. And then
the fucking NBA can like a billion dollar business and
they're just gonna stop that ship just a rap because
it's it's deuces. So so for so I in my

(38:33):
mind I was thinking of that, and then I just thought, well, Okay,
if this is all a twenty is gonna be the
year of like preparation, like you know, it's just kind
of the what the fun is, what happened, then one
will be the year where we kind of start to
you know, re emerge and you know, and then is

(38:54):
finally when you know things. I don't think we'll be normal,
but there will be yet maybe even then with that,
for me, the mask ain't going nowhere like we be
Michael Jackson with my ship Vaccine whatever. Yeah, it's like
and and that's what I think. Just for me, this
year was just a lesson in whatever. And we talked

(39:15):
about this on on Jails podcast, like You're like, whatever
lessons that you learned in these are the lessons and
the and the practices that you're gonna need to carry
you out for the rest of your life. You know
what I mean, Like this is this just ain't no ship.
Twenties over and we're back. Nah. If you get back
out in the world trying to do the same ship
that you was doing before, Rona, You're gonna be fucked up. Uh, yes,

(39:41):
you're right. He kept sliding. I just mind, mind, just mind,
just kept sliding with like I thought it was gonna
be a few weeks and then but I mean every
single bench park that you just spoke about, I I
agree with and clock and I was just like, oh
and I just just kept going with it. But but
I you know, but I was also like the day

(40:01):
after Trump, you know, got e left it, I was like, Oh,
he's gonna get that Manilla folder and he's gonna rise
to the occasion. Like I'm an internal optimist, you know,
I literally did I remember it was I know. I
mean like so like when I saw like you know Chappelle,
do you know right after the election, I was kind
of I was like, I'm feeling that and then once
the you know, and then it was good. Like a
day later, I was like, oh wait, no, who am

(40:22):
I kidding? But just a little, a little winds of hope.
I just thought he was gonna you know, I just
assume they give you a manilla envelope that you read
about who killed Kennedy, you know, who made track, you know, like,
and it's just like and you're like you're like, oh
my god. And then you're like, okay, this is humbling.
I understand now. Yeah, exactly like Jason, but he has

(40:44):
the volted. That's a scary part. He got the volted. Yeah, no,
I get it, I get it. I get it. And
then he gave it away. Yeah. But so so I
thought this. I thought everything I thought, you know, I
thought every you know, a couple of months and then yea,
somewhere around the mid mid uh yeah, it's probably around
the NBA for that same reason, it's like, oh, this

(41:05):
is this is this is bad, Like if they're gonna
shut this down. Yeah. Man. It was like it was
like a whip lash effect. Like like me and my
cousin we talked about it, and she had like the
most beautiful analogy for it. For Kvid she was like,
you know, years ago, her and her husband they lost
they had they had a kid and they lost the kid.

(41:26):
Her exit and she said that in therapy, a therapist
told her that the reason why a lot of couples
don't make it after they lose a kid is because
their grief never sinks up. So like one person will
be in bargaining, one person will be in you know, acceptance,
one person being anger, you know what I'm saying. Whatever,
And and it's like it was like the same thing

(41:48):
because it's like, yo, it's because everyone is at a
at a different point of understanding where they are, where
we are, and a different something. Yeah. Man, that's that's
that's very heavy. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, Steve,
when when did you think this was over initially? I
mean I can't remember what I was thinking, but um,

(42:14):
I definitely thought I was going to go on for
a long long time. I mean, I'm I'm really surprised
how how quickly that we may be able to come
out of it, even if it is by you know,
next summer. I think that's that's pretty incredible. If that happens,

(42:35):
you ain't gonna ain't gonna take the vaccine. Oh no, no,
we're up in there. I think a mirror has an
order of no. But don't ask me that question. Karthy
and COVID you hold an official answer. I got an

(42:57):
Here's the thing, man, Bill, this is a a lot of
my white friends aren't really getting Black people are so
untrusting of vaccination. And let me say this, I had
to explain it to a girlfriend who's a doctor and
works at the FDA, who's been in the struggle and
is black, and still like, what the fund is wrong

(43:18):
with y'all? Didn't know who Henrietta lacks? She knows all
that is. Just her point is that they've been putting
in the work. And she's like, I don't believe that.
You know, some black folks still think like this, And
I'm like, a lot of black folks still do, Henrietta,
because it's not like this was a long time ago.
It's not like we're talking about, you know, this ship
from the tux Tukee experiment to what happened to Henrietta lacks, uh,

(43:42):
the initial ring worm experience experiments that they did on
black people beforehand, um that they still ain't found cures
for just in general black there's a deep distrust like
I'll put it this way, Bill, and I'm as middle
class slash one whatever it comes without being Carlton. No,

(44:11):
I will say that before my cushy NBC insurance included job.
And this is not to say I didn't have insurance
in the roots. There was a thirty year gap before
I finally went to the dentist. So I went to
the dentist in two thousand and nine to get wait,

(44:36):
oh no black man and doctors. This is deep, we're
to do that. My last my my last time was
at a at a uh what we call it, like
a student at dental school third nineteen seventy nine. Like
Chris Rock, isn't joking that you have to be way

(44:57):
past Roba testing for you know, even with what like
I used to, Steve knows like zero will get the sniffles.
My now managers, Zero would be like get the sniffles
and be like I'm gonna check and go see the doctor.
I'm like, wait, you go to doctors because you you
might have a cold. Like that happens, Like, man, it

(45:20):
took me thirty years. Imagine April of nineteen seventy nine
to two when my teeth about to fall out. Like
May of two thousand and nine, I finally went to
the dentist finally, like, there's just a deep distrust that
we've had. And yes, I believe in science now, yes

(45:40):
I do. I personally feel as though there is a
conspiracy out to get us. No, no, I don't believe it.
But it's going to be a hard time. It's gonna
be more than Barack Obama getting getting it himself down
to the clinic and he got to stand next to
Auntie whoever. And I need to say to day getting
the same A very simple question. Please, why don't you

(46:05):
all just go to black doctors. Oh, it's black doors,
but it's still white medicine. Yeah, thank you made that
so simple. Thank you, thank you black doctors, but it's
still if we have black doctors, but it's still white medicine.

(46:29):
For the record, for the record, for the record. The
the the woman who's the uh the woman? What's the
company that Dolly Parton gave a million doll Maderna Fiser,
not Fiser but Maderna. Um, it's it's an African American
woman who is helming the the lead into the you know,

(46:54):
Biden is we were in there were in. It's that's
not that. That's not the point though, Steve, I'm sorry,
it really well on the kind of what with Fonte
say and then and what Air said about the history.
I'm not saying distrusting, but I will just say, like
I want to see what happens maybe the first two
months exactly. It's like we'm for me. I'm gonna take it.
I'm just not gonna be in that first round. Like

(47:15):
it's like the first generation. You don't get the first Apple.
You never get the first phone, you never get the
first laptop, you never get the first iPod never ever, ever, ever,
you never do the first update on your phone, never
get the first update, the big sir, don't do that.
Get yourself fixed, sir. What does work? Now? We get it?
Now we get it. Yeah we were, we were on

(47:40):
the not knowing angle. Now we get it. But can
I just tell you that I am happy that twenty
is the year that America is finally getting to know
black people. And I am excited about that. It's nice
what you're saying. Yes, podcast for five years and I
don't know shit about black people, and let's say it,

(48:03):
a lot I've been given a number of lessons. And
I still don't know. I don't know if that's about
you guys or me, but either way, yeah, you need
to go to strong. Black leaders are there on Netflix.
That's why they get just okay. So next question, what

(48:27):
room in your house became your refuge? This one, this
one un your studio right now, I'm po Bill. Yes.
And we also delivered baby boys in this room because
of the color color. Yeah, that's first choice, first choice.
Good you you're in a bunk of right now, Jason. Yeah,

(48:49):
it's like the the we you know, we live in Brooklyn,
but we've been out here the whole time because of this,
and so like this this became our communal office. But
then when I was editing, I let Live take this
so she could do pre production for her movie that
she's shooting now. And then I then I went to
like a real like a like I just found a
uh this post production house to me even darker than

(49:12):
this exactly, like a came with like wood panley behind it.
And I would just sit at the screen and edit
remotely and then get in the car and I was like,
you know, nine to five, you know, almost wearing a
mask and and sanitizing only a few people in that office.
Then here that you know, that's a TV there. And
then you know, early and early, like probably like April,
I was playing, like I went through and finally played
Granted Auto five just to drive around l A, just

(49:34):
to be like, hey, it's nice to be outside. And
then uh, I mean that game was incredible seven years
old and it's still like incredible. And then uh, and
then me and guys from the show, like writers and
cast members of the show started playing FIFA. We created
an a f C Richmond team on Pro Clubs and
then would just be here a little head right next

(49:55):
to me, jotting down ideas and lines, and it became
you know, a sanctuary otis and I played you know,
the Spider Man game up in here. You know, it
was like you want you want PS five? You Xbox?
Which one? We have Xbox? We have PS four, but
I haven't got p S five yet. Yeah, but but
but that, but that Spider Man game is incredible and
we can't wait for those new miles from our house one.

(50:16):
So so yeah, we just chipped away at things and
just like playing like you know, it became it became
a place to hang out right before, when I was
hitting that thirty pounds, I was drinking like three micheladas.
On Saturday, we started writing how to Do It three
buffet songs, you know, me feeling fine after a lot
of numbers. I'm sure the lyrics of that those tunes

(50:41):
are in this notebook. But yeah, this is this is it.
It's just like a little office right up right up
the Yeah, alright, Steve, what was your what was your
room of refuge room? Uh? Well, I only have one
room anymore to walk right into that. I got one

(51:07):
room too, and then I guess I said my man's bedroom,
because that's my room a refuge. Uh. I feel like
this this this couch area is we don't know what
it is. I'm your house fante, so just yeah, I'm

(51:30):
in my living room. This is just like a corner,
I mean, because we had to kind of, you know,
rearrange some ship. So we ended up having to put
my son's desk for his uh for his schooling. So
we had to buy him a new desk and and
then put it over by the window. And then I'm
kind of in just in the corner on the other side,
just in my little corner. But my place a refuge is.

(51:51):
Actually it kind of became my deck man. Like I
would just never showing us anything but the switch Fonte.
You know we did Quest live. We've been doing it.
You do a video in that house. Yes, that that
was that was my buddy's house. That wasn't my house.
That was at my house. That was my buddy's house.
He's never shown us anything but the switch. I would

(52:12):
show you. I will give you the MTV tow of
my house, right yeah, yeah, because I'm right next to
the kitchen. I'm right next to the kitchen. But yeah,
it was just the deck. It kind of became my
spot man because I mean, you know, we couldn't really
go anywhere, and um, you know during the when when
the weather was good, I was just grill. You know.
That kind of became something my therapy. I would just
cook and not give food to my friends, you know

(52:34):
what I'm saying. Like you know, I you know, do
ribs or whatever, and I give them a slab away,
you know, And but but I just cook. And so
I'll just be out and just you know, just on deck,
you know, smoke me a little something, just you know,
just enjoying the air and that's kind of became my place. Okay.
Oh the dispensary. The dispensary was a place of refuge. Okay,

(53:01):
some of us come New Jersey. Okay. So in terms
of panic purchasing, which I'm sure we did a lot
of between March and maybe kind of cooled out in
July once we realized that world wasn't going to come
to an end? What was the item that you panic

(53:23):
purchased obsessively? Got to get the right one, the right one,
like I had to bout a little laptop stand, like

(53:43):
you know, the little mike. I bought my garage there
you really really fine. I bought a bar off Etsy
for my garage because I needed the place to hang out.
So my bar is now fully fledged bar. I know
this podcast is maybe look like an alcoholic is mostly

(54:07):
your content, not the not the podcast. Yeah of this
year in episode you just got, you know, go after
the Good? Can you talk about that? Because I bought
a bar from this guy in Florida who clearly only
makes bars for people in Florida, And I said, hey,

(54:29):
will you ship it up to New York? And he said,
oh man, that's gonna cost a lot of money. This
is all etsy right, And I was like, oh really
how much? And he was like two and I was like, okay, cool,
we're good at two and like bring it up in
one huge piece and they placed it in my garage
and it's on wheels. I can wheel my bar places.
It's all that's a good bar. That'll last, pro that

(54:50):
will last post COVID. Yeah, like that's one. Yeah, yeah,
you know where did you see this bar? To make
you be like I need this? I typed in bars
for your garage. I believe are you saying that's how
people started. I think that's actually what I typed. I

(55:13):
think people start what some people started, you know in
the summertime because people didn't realize they didn't have pools
and they was stuck in COVID. Remember everybody was taking
the bins, the color bins, and they were making their
own pool. I don't yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, I remember, no, right,
I'll deal with showing me that I want. I'm sorry,
I don't know what that had good sege anyway. I

(55:34):
didn't do any I didn't I didn't. I didn't do
any uh like toilet paper or any of that stuff.
I think I was I don't think I got caught
that wave like we didn't as a house. Oh you know,
we we got um lived did get us, you know,
like an earthquake, you know, a couple of survival kids
like Judy and stuff like that. I think Judy. I

(55:55):
don't know. I just know it says the word judy
on So I don't know something I should I think
l A yes, yes, yeah, not sure out here yeah,
I think so. Actually it's let me let me let
me look it up here. But I think it is
a pretty short it's duty, is it? Like e W
d y no, good old fashioned wow? Thank you Jason, Hey,

(56:21):
thank you Olivia. I would I would? You know? I
just have a bunch of double A batteries like that's
gonna do ship, you know, I don't know. Do you
know any celebrities that have bunkers like those really fancy
bunkers I've seen now, you know. When this happened, I
looked up room like the hangars that you can buy there, Like,
I'm just curious if would you tell me? If you did,

(56:42):
I would, I would tell you if I knew, if
I knew, if I knew of them. But I don't
know the babe, ain't got no no, he's they got
a hell of a treehouse though, I believe, you know,
I think if memory serves, I haven't been to his place,
but I remember him really loving like that treehouse like
reality show and him him being like, you know one

(57:02):
that for his daughters, which I am super envious of.
I means like a child. We never we never had
a tree my dad. My dad grew up in the
South side of Chicago. I got a high rise. So
because he barely knows how to change the light bulb.
He's a great dad, but he always had a super
you know someone you know, Schneider always came down and
fixed a lot of Snyder. Yeah, like my dad. I

(57:23):
love that you didn't say book. I could have gone
Rose and rerun. I could have gone, you know, I
could have gone. It's not my default guy thought no.
But I'm you know, but I'm that's one day at
a time. I know that I'm saying yeah, yeah, but

(57:44):
I yeah, the the jean vest and all that, um
so yeah, So yeah, I think your baby has got
a tree outse I don't know if it's if it's
ready to you know, for nuclear fallout right down it
has like panic doors and stuff like that. Dave Chappelle
got one. He got one day that is not really okay,
how not really it's not it's not an underground I mean,

(58:05):
I mean, but he has acres, so you know, but
it is something like he just turned that town into
one science believing blue town, you know what I mean,
like with the cops wear masks and how can we
help you? Certain like that sort of thing. Like Lawrence, Kansas.

(58:26):
It's like the one Douglas County is like the one
blue county in Kansas, you know, like we're the University
of Kansas is like the bottleneck in the Granada if
you go Lawner. I know why I always played Lawrence, Kansas.
I mean Kansas City, Kansas City. But yeah, that was
like that was the that was the joint you look.
I mean, I mean this year, you know, the last
couple of years, maybe you know, the Kansas City, Kansas side,

(58:48):
like Windot County will have will be blue. But but
but as far as like internal Kansas not not like
the biggest city that's Douglas County. That's because we would
always there would it was we would always start u
a tour like a major tour like with Beck or
the Fuji's whoever. We started Lawrence, Kansas. It was like

(59:11):
a like a theater. It was sort of like a
movie used to be a Yeah yeah, I don't think
I saw you guys there. You've been to some oh
yeah yeah, Granada, the Bottleneck, Yeah, I mean that's that
was That's where you would see folks like when they
maybe had you know, one radio hit on like the yeah. Yeah,

(59:32):
like I saw like Cake. They're like Ben Folds five
like in the first you know, like when they were
still when Ben was still lugging around a gano in
a U haul. You know, it's like, yeah, that's where
you go to the bottleneck, right, damn yeah, that's my spot.
All right, what did you what did you purchase? Uh?
Panic purchase? Oh no, I really meant the ring, like
you know, I gotta tell you, and not for nothing.

(59:55):
I'm still getting fighting through my broke mind. My boyfriend
keep reminding me that, he's like, you got three jobs
is now so you can actually buy things? Because yeah,
I still I'm just it's hard. It's hard. It's hard. Okay, wait, okay,
huh I brought a ranch? Yeah, like you live in

(01:00:19):
white people ville, like you protected on all the class
by white phones. Yeah. Man, I I was like, this
is never happening again. See there you go a certainty
never again, never again. I purchased. I purchased a bunker
so that this will never happen again. All right, Wait,
so real quick, what's the maximum amount of people that

(01:00:40):
you were quarantining with? Wait? I didn't the question. You
gotta jump in when you get it. What did you
panic by? I couldn't be by the thing you need
to pay me more waiting to use that punch. Yeah,
I didn't. I didn't pay it by anything I paned gave.

(01:01:00):
I think I like, I just donated a bunch of money,
like the different organizations, like I gave money to my
school and ship. It was just I was just thinking,
I was like, yo, I was no, I won't know.
It was just I was thinking, because I mean, I
kind of knew how we lived, and I was like,
all right, I think, you know, we'll be cool, but
I know some people ain't. Go. That was a cool

(01:01:21):
thing that Olivia had the foresight to do, buying gift
cards from restaurants that we went to in the area
a lot, knowing that they would shut down, but buying
like a thousand allar gift cards, like like just literally
going here just like here's some money, just like yeah,
I mean you know, like because because money for the restaurant. Yeah,
so here's the money up front and we'll catch you

(01:01:42):
on on you know, on the flip club. But also
then they did honor them, you know when when they
started delivering meals and stuff, but that you know, just
helping small businesses in that regard that they remember when
they started seeing y'all, it was like ship, they're already paid. Yeah.
Speaking and speaking of food, what kind of tip the
gift card for yourself? Okay, so what what new uh

(01:02:12):
item or food was your friend? Man the undisputed heavyweight
champion of the Coleman Household of the Pandemic, it's the
motherfucking air fryer. Bro the air fryer hit his man.
It gets it all. It damned pretty much replaced of

(01:02:34):
microwave like it just everything. I mean, it'll be good stuff. Bro.
The air fries a game changing, man, Like, I mean,
it's basically just in a it's just a a fucking
easy big oven for adults, but changed so much. But yeah,
it does yeah, deep fried without you know, without all
you know what I'm saying. But it just gets yourself crispy,

(01:02:56):
like if you ordered, you know, fries from somewhere with
ever and you got some leftover, you want to heat
him up there work. But but yeah, we use it
for everything. My son he uses it. He'll make his
breakfast in the morning folk school, uh for you know,
for you jump on his laptop and uh, yeah they're fried.
It saved us for real, y'all have have y'all had
Jenny's ice cream? Yes? Who is this bitch? Who is

(01:03:23):
she's She's a wizard, She's a witch. She is that
the one with the salt with like the salted peanut butter,
with the chocolate flex Do they do that there? Yes
they do, Yes, they do they and they make the
really thick waffle cones where you walking there and they
just delivered. So is this a store? This is a
spot splendid ice creams. It is all across the country,

(01:03:46):
but here in l A. They delivered during the COVID times.
And that was my answer because who the salted caramel,
the almond butter brickle? They have one ice cream with
uh kettle corn. It's just it's a lot and it's
really good. That's and I'm ice cream efficient, not I am?
I am? I what I missed from? I missed from

(01:04:09):
our neighborhood, Brooklyn's ample Hills, Ample Hills ice cream. Crack
ice cream is like brack ice cream? Can you only
get it from me? Like that? Like I think they
have I think they have it out here too, but
but they do. But you know that that um uh
you know what was another thing? We used that gold
gold gold belt, gold gold belly. We hit that place

(01:04:30):
of you know a few times like New York, New
York meals like you know, getting Russell Daughters, you know,
sent out here. Yeah yeah, let me let me shout
out Halo Top ice cream as well, Um for the
grocery store around top. Yeah, it's it's um. You know,
I can partake in stuff that's under fatiene carbs and

(01:04:55):
so Halo Top is definitely yo. You know what else
great substance? You heard? Ice cream? No? Why are you
looking at me? Like what kind of black person? Is? Not?
Like I make us all far and I don't know
why we lie about it? Like, go on some ice
cream and let me talk to Grace the next morning.

(01:05:17):
So I'm serious, dog, I'm cool with it. Another for
those that are looking ways to cheat the system as
far as like getting your sweets on without having to
partake in the carbs. M One thing I discovered this
year cool Whip Cool Cool Whip almond milk. Is it
almond milk? No, just it's it's it's low and carbs,

(01:05:41):
low and sugar. You put it in in the freezer
like when you're talking like you just invented cool Whip
cools around hundred. I know, but it's cheating, but not
like to have some heroin. It's a way for me
to have some heroin without getting hot. God's your old dudes.

(01:06:04):
It's your old dudes. You need to take their cholesterol
content because that should be greasy. They're sugar free. Cool
with ye, I said cholestero. Alright, alright, go ahead do
your thing, Brad. I'm just saying that they also make
a milk. I mean, something's working. I'm just saying. Anyway,

(01:06:29):
shout out to Hale's right anyway, Um yeah, cool Whip.
Also shout out to Lynn's lifestyle. Um, she's the lady
who hasn't been it. Miracle carb Um cool items like

(01:06:50):
corn bread and her early on in the year. Yeah, yeah,
definitely her corn bread. Definitely, that's somebody else's corn bread. Well,
I mean, look, it's not corn bread in the life
sence of the term of corn bread. But you know,
for someone that's abstaining bread, you're talking about, Yeah, big

(01:07:16):
part of my life is also abstaining from bread and
other white foods like rice and potatoes and all those things.
So potato, can you sweep? I could do occasional sweep
a matter of fact, when I hang up, have some
sweet potato tonight. So basically she had is it siliac
I forget something like disease? Yeah? Yes, so she has

(01:07:40):
like if she looks at nuts or seeds or anything,
she'll break out. Like that's how bad this woman's allergies was.
And her husband was like, I hate seeing your miserable
like this, Like, you know, figure out how to make
what you like out of seeds, like puroit of the

(01:08:00):
seeds and all these things. So she would take seeds
and start making bread and muffins. And her name is
It's Lynn's life, like she makes it in her crib.
It's a very small business, but commercial. Yeah, you love
this commercial, how many what's the maximum? What's the maximum

(01:08:21):
amount of people have that have been quarantining with you?
Just three? For me? Well? Question about what food I
was eating? Come on, I want to actually, I do
want to hear, because what are you doing now that
Starbucks isn't as it used to be? Star Starbucks is

(01:08:46):
They're they're pretty open um from the beginning they weren't.
So how are you coping? Without starting story? Back back
back when it started? I thought, uh, the type you
make it home, you know, with what's it called instant
instant coffee where you just stirred into hot water. Okay,

(01:09:09):
But the crazy part was I accidentally bought the caffeinated
and I was drinking the caffeinated coffee for like four
months without realizing, and I had gotten off caffeine. Starbucks
opened up, and it's second, were you having headaches? No? No,

(01:09:29):
because I didn't. I didn't know that. I was to
see you by myself. But in answering your original question,
I went back and pretty much tried every single type
of breakfast cereal that exists. Over the however many months
we were quarantined. Damn, I wanted to figure out at

(01:09:49):
BADR shookers. Some of them are very bad, Yes, but
some of them finished his sentence. Go ahead, stee, if
you wanted to figure out I wanted to figure out
which was the greatest breakfast cereal of all time by
revisiting all of them? Okay, all right, I'm here for
this and and there were clearly a lot of possible winners.

(01:10:13):
But at the end of the day was say, frost flakes, frosted,
yeahs miniweeds lit the little guys, Yeah, because it was
it was a perfect balance of sweet and you know,
an adult sweet. What you can't eat it without milk?

(01:10:41):
That's your next book. Yeah, sorry, all right, So frontis
said three, what's the maximum amount of people you quarantine with?
Its three, including myself, just me and my wife and son.
It's just three of us, is it? Okay? Like quarantine
and me spend time and you just came through. Okay, No,
that's true, Actually come through quarantine. I've quarantined, uh two

(01:11:06):
because remember here I was, I was hit calling you
out on social media. But the thing is, I think
one is hard to I think it's hard to quarantine alone.
I think it's hard to quarantine with two. I think
three is the perfect number. What a person, I said,
what about joke the team at the ranch part? Yeah,

(01:11:27):
but I was also on acres in a farm. But
Grace and I were in the house. I mean, of course,
if I'm DJ and yeah, motherfucker's gonna come up. But yeah,
you know, just everyone at ease. Steve and I regularly
get tested. Yeah, so we've been pretty much with our negativity.
Not the rapid test though, because you can't trust those. Sorry,

(01:11:48):
you're both okay, Well I get both. I do combinations
of both unpaid. What was your maximum number? Me my
girlfriend and her kids or me my ex wife and
my kids four? So combo of four to three. That's wow.
Based on that smile, I'll just skip. The less we

(01:12:14):
build the better. Come with your numbers. Numbers ain't nothing
but the number, said Jason. Read that down next to um.
You know um whatever Jazz Jeff said, Then whatever I said.

(01:12:35):
You numbers numbers deep deep ship, Go ahead, mirror, you
have thirty people at your Karen ranch. No, in the
beginning when I went to the farm, yeah, it was me.
Grace heard two kids. You ain't got to do the road.
Cars gonna be here. You were doing a road cars
because a lot of people you ain't gotta do them
all their names, shout them out. No. Look, we were

(01:12:57):
in Grace and Grace met Gray sending her two kids
started off in our guest house, and we were socially
distanced and all that stuff with the other people. I mean,
we were on a farm with a total of at
its minimum seven people at its maximum sometimes eleven. How

(01:13:20):
older Graces kids, Oh they're adults. Leaf is uh. Leaf
is twenty she's twenty five and riding. He's black. Jesus.
He's like, oh, yeah, they're beautiful. They're both like some

(01:13:40):
beautiful what's that? Like? We've never talked about this ever.
They're cool, but they're not like her kids, Like they're
fellow adults, you know what I mean, Like they're um.
Leaf is probably the most resourceful human being I know.
Like if you go to Instagram, she'll love this, shout out.

(01:14:01):
If you go to Leaf's Instagram, her name is Leaf
Elie a f um like she does all of her
She shot her own ads that are hanging in uh,
like she models a lot for like a lot of
these companies that are on are in a Times square
right now, So like she'll shoot our own time square

(01:14:22):
ads for the companies that she's modeling for. She yeah,
she makes like she has her own like garage shale
like on on the like I sound like an old
person trying to describe this place. Yeah, sorry, Well, like

(01:14:42):
she's just the most resourceful human I know. Like if
you tell her like I need dollars right now, she
instantly knows like how to organize and come up with it.
So and it's just her just on Instagram. Is that
it is that Leaf? Okay, I'm looking at an artist
as well. Her there Um, both Lee Leaf and Riding's father.

(01:15:06):
He Um invented like the idea of the Street Team,
like the first time you see the idea, the idea
of like Puffy having these like uh protest signs, the
advertising bad boy and like stickers that you see like
all over the place of these rap artists are wrap
around vans, like the first Street Team. I think, I think,

(01:15:33):
I don't know, I don't know. I think you gotta
do your research here. But that's the thing. I believe.
It's a family of hustles riding riding to me riding
right now is I think the hardest part of life,
the hardest transition in life is somewhere between nineteen and
twenty three. So that's where you really have to push

(01:15:56):
yourself to realize who you are and get into it.
You don't believe in that fun No, who pushing you?
You gotta know you Well, I had a son at
twenty one, so I had to transition. It is a

(01:16:17):
big transition. It is usually it's a transition in a
sense because that's when you realize, Like, at least for me,
when I graduated, you know, I was twenty one graduating one.
So I was like, yeah, like that's when you get
out and you realize, Okay, whatever I'm doing now, this
has the potential to be my life for the rest

(01:16:38):
of my life. And that's some sobering ship, you know
what I mean. Like I was working at like a
call center and ship and it's just like, Nigga, is
this it? Because it ain't no more school, you know
what I'm saying. There's no more you know, all the
whatever the rights of passage were up until this point,
we've done. So you can work around being this you
center for the next day and thirty years, you know

(01:16:59):
what I'm saying. I was like, Oh, it's a good
to find your bliss, to find the things that you're like, oh,
I'm gonna go after this regardless. You know that just
you know, thank follow your bliss because that's when I like,
after I leaving college. I've played basketball in college for
a little bit, just community college in Kansas, but when
I left, I was like, oh, I love this. And
then I've moved to Chicago, and that's when I officially
I'm like, this is me trying to be an actor.

(01:17:21):
I mean, I'm living my grandmother's house and drive my
uncle's car, you know, you know, but still I knew
the choices I was making was all that and like,
you know, nine five jobs just for gas because you know,
I did charge rent likely say, how long was that
life for you? How long was that? I mean, in
many ways it's still it's still going on, like you know,

(01:17:43):
like the kind of well I mean that that was
It wasn't the lesson L But even that was not
a great coloring contract. I mean, you know, I love
pointing out to people, you know that, like, uh, just
for people to realize, you know, with George Carlin paid
in five on October eleventh to host SNL five brand

(01:18:08):
you know, in tim Channel. I got paid last week
five brand. Now. I don't know how long I can
pull that off, but it is a thing, all right,
So you know, uh yeah, I mean Hive Bucks. You
know they got paid thirty years ago. Wait, Bill, did

(01:18:32):
I get paid for Sesame Street at all? Exactly? Exactly?
Probably not I did. I didn't off shoot. I did
you know? Elmo up all night? I mean that's you know,
that's late nine, that's late nine money, that's three yea
Elmo's late night talk show. And it was hilarious. It
was great. It was great. Yeah, Living and I both

(01:18:53):
did it. No, it was it was that was it was.
It was a joy. What what I was saying, like you,
was that when you're when you're crossing that bridge where
you're not just under your you're the tutelage of your
mom and dad anymore, and you got own person. That's
the transition between nineteen and twenty three. So what I

(01:19:14):
see for her Son, I believe in my heart that
her son um And this is crazy pressure to put
on him. I feel like him as an artist, like
he's he's to me, like he could be the next
Boskiot And in terms of like the art community has
like the same way that I had a circle with

(01:19:35):
like Dylla and d and Erica and you know, like
the whole Black Lily Collective and all that stuff. He
has an art community that and I almost feel kind
of guilty giving my unsolicited capitalists you know, snake oil
salesman advice. Like wait, if you guys all gather together,

(01:19:57):
this is this is a billion dollar art art community.
I'll be the person to end their community. Like right now,
it's just very pure and very for art's sake. So yeah,
let them suck it up on the right that Williams

(01:20:17):
and Alma don't do it. Yeah, you you teach it.
You teach it kid to suck up, you know, but
if you allow a kid to funk up, he'll suck
up forever. You know. It's like it's like that, give
a man a fish, talk's fish, you talk about man's river,
you know, like you know that is okay. So I'll

(01:20:41):
go to entertainment. Um for those of you that indulged
in television, Okay, what's the TV show that you are
ashamed to admit that you indulged and watched? Like I said,
I was going to watch a whole bunch of Criterion
collect education movies ain't got time for all they got

(01:21:04):
them learning. I'm in here for that. Uh subtitles. Now, yeah,
I was on I was on ninety Day Fiance pretty heavy,
and then I just go, yeah, the other way the
other way, that's some good stuff. That is a mess.

(01:21:26):
What's the other way? The other ways? When the other
ways when the American goes to the other country, So
you got like them going to Ethiopia. And also, yeah,
there's the American version of the Russian Male Order bride
that I about every sitcom. It is the bro it
was this white woman that was going to marry this
dude from Qatar. Man, listen, like there is no punchline.

(01:21:51):
What do you say? Like, Bro, you already know man. Look, yeah,
so I know what Americans have been sold about the
Russian Male Order bright like you know, and I guess
we sort of see the first lady is that somewhat?
But what I'm saying, oh no, not is how how
how how is the Americans sold as a prize to

(01:22:12):
other countries. I don't. I think it's just surprise. I
think it's just I think in the Quatar with the
lady that was going to quatar. I think it was
just they were looking at it. The guy was looking
at it like, well, I can basically use you. I
mean it was. I mean, it's all like kind of
a scam, really is they all like trying to just

(01:22:34):
use each other for money or for citizenship or something.
But it's just it's all like dysfunctional and hilarious as hell. Um.
But that's kind of that's what the cell is. It's
a lot of other franchise that branched off because you've
got the house is your Chantel and stuff now because
Chantel had married it Dominican dude, and now they the
black girl that's real pretty and her whole family is
kind of good. Look at that they get in their

(01:22:55):
own show. It's a lot going on. Sorry, I watched
a lot of TV SOA and my mom watches this
so if I visit, she always has it on. But
that's all I know. But the story is always like
some greasy looking guy and you know, yes, uh, like

(01:23:16):
how long just do they stay with the storyline until
it ends? Or man? They stay with it like well,
I think this year And I think that's kind of
why I got out of it because COVID shut a
lot of ship down. So what ended up happening is
like they you could tell they basically were stretching the
dope too far, you know what I mean, So like
they didn't really have a whole lot of content, like

(01:23:39):
y'all cut it too thin because y'all coming back, y'all
got but got them fifteen minutes, twenty minutes worth of
them content stretched out over an hour, and it just
it was bad. So that's why I got out of it.
But um, but they'll follow people, I mean if they
get spin off some stuff. Um and basically the more
dysfunction of the better. Like as as all reality shows,
the chick Darcy who's has a twin sister, They have

(01:24:01):
a show now called Darcy and Stacy, which I just
I have not watched. I forgot about that. The Big
duck lips bro y know, they showed a commercial like
every yeah, every watch every Discovery, you'll watch it. Can
I just say one word? And I would just like
to know because people are in the closet about this show,
but I think all of y'all watched this show was

(01:24:23):
what was it? Cheaters? Peter Guns is gonna be hosting it.
I thought y'all was all right, I don't remember Cheaters
back in like the nineties. Yeah, that's that's the last
time I watched it on the weekend with Peter Guns
New York got Crazy Game. Never mind, I thought we

(01:24:47):
had a tribe and I'm sorry, I thought, yeah, yeah,
Peter Peters. Peters has it, but old episodes of Cheaters,
because you know, it had different holes in the last
holes who was a grandson of Clark Gable. You know
he died this year in Yeah, yeah, Clark. He was
Clark after Joey Greco was Clark Gable's grandson. Yes, you

(01:25:15):
no idea what you're talking about. I remember Cheaters like yeah,
when I was a central ambush show, like where you
would catch people there. Well, it wasn't necessarily an ambush show.
It was a show where people people came to the
host to find out if their loved one was cheating,
and then they had detectives, and that detective would actually

(01:25:37):
go and then yeah, and then you would ambush once
they found out that. Alright, and ambush was forthcome Bush
Bush Mayor said shows were embarrassed about it. Now I'm
back to being embarrassed. I never mind, hand I trying
to watch that. Man, I couldn't. I couldn't do it.

(01:26:00):
So the preface too hot to hand on Netflix is
you put you know, twenty beautiful people on an island
and you're like, if you win, they can't have sex,
and they can't have sex, they can't touch each other,
they can't do anything. If they do, like the money
starts to go down, and so like they all trying
to like sneak off fucking and like you know, crazy

(01:26:21):
under the cover ship and they get caught every time.
And there's like a there's like an announcer robots like
if you funk, it's funny grand if you if you,
if you kiss, if you make out someone, it's like
five grands, like like two grand at the end, they're
down like five grands. Here's two bucks if the show

(01:26:45):
up on that show and just like just mashbate like
crazy and just leave there, just flush. You can't there's
no you can't do that either. No, no, no, you
can't you do anything and then do what they do.
Mean wait, that's the commercial right there for this show

(01:27:13):
to wait a minute. So the thing is is that Jason,
what they do is they even turn the heat up
more like if if you seem to be master and
a nice choice of words in there, the game too much,

(01:27:35):
then they start important and even hotter. People like you
don't want to that they're going, and they're going is
to literally bring people on to seduce you. Yeah, so
it's like it's going to lose the game. It's like
going to Russia on business like they're they're gonna twiddle

(01:27:58):
your knob. They're gonna dial in the in the calibraves
like like real moves. It's all fake moves all the time.
There's nothing on that show. Whatever. You know another show
that like I watched that was I didn't I wouldn't
say I felt ashamed about it, but it was. Please
say I didn't feel good about Yeah, says I can

(01:28:19):
feel good about myself. Cobra kai uh nigga because yeah,
Cobra k this old niggas getting at because I'm here
for it. It's on my list. Because rob Mitia still
looks great. Yeah yeah, and you know if you know
the original, you know the original, Yeah, well we got good.

(01:28:42):
I mean the way they start that show is so great,
like when it jumps to like that other angle like that,
you know, I was just like, oh, like my brain
fried a little bit. I thought I watched those on YouTube.
Isn't like Wicked where you see from his point of view? Yeah,
so basically you're yeah, you see it from Johnny Lawrence,
from his you know what he becomes. Oh, man, I

(01:29:03):
guess that Joe is real that it's a great show.
Like I did not expect to enjoy as much as
I did. Three Comes Back where every boot can't be good.
I can't think of any other ones. But that's good. Look,
I know everybody liked it, you know, but but like
we I mean, I just don't watch too much, you know,
junk after live was watching something earlier but I can't remember,
but I I usually you know, wasn't wasn't into it

(01:29:24):
just but the Tiger King, you know, like Tiger King
was great, but like but also the same time, like
why am I why watching this dude? Like like and
I'm watching her and I'm just like, you know what,
that's why am I giving him this energy? I gave
up after the third episode. I couldn't take that. Man,
I've been I was taking for the long haul. Then

(01:29:46):
we started singing this jam he went Joe when Joe
started dropping records. Man, come on, yeah, right, he's thunder sting.
So does he have a chance with Kim Kardashian arguing
on his behalf. No, he's white. He's White's why he's white.

(01:30:12):
But he did say to her, you know, you don't
have to tell anybody that you helped me. Did he
murder this woman? No? No, the big question, we don't
know the murdered her. She's alive. She made her husband.
I think that's right. That's the big Wait. What's he
in jail for for attempting to Yeah? Oh okay, so

(01:30:37):
he's definitely guilty of attempted murder. Yeah, of arranging her murder.
He didn't even try to do it and pay somebody
Yeah yeah, yeah, Venmo. Somebody just didn't murder, you know,
very backwards folks of Bucks Carol, which got her on

(01:30:58):
Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, yeah, she's gonna dancing with
the Slaws now. She was. She was. Yeah. The best
character in that show was Doc whatever his name is
in North Carolina, that guy like talk about polygamy, like
that guy with tigers and breeding and all that. They

(01:31:19):
ran up. They ran up in Uh. Yeah. Cop had
a real comeback in the next them, did you watch
this ship the viol and oh whatever the vow was?
That was cool. The one seduced is seduced on Showtime.

(01:31:41):
That ship is all smoked. It's only four episodes, like
four hours. Oh my god, I just watched the Epstein
thing and that's not for me. So I was good
to watch that. That was good. That was that was good,
but like disturbing so much. Steve. Yeah, hey, y'all see
your girl. The other day she posted they're trying to

(01:32:03):
post a thirty million I'm like, dude, I'm no legal expert,
but she's about to get anyone that could post thirty
billion dollars. You probably shouldn't let them post bail. I
mean it's probably not the best idea. No, that's like,
come on, and that's what is that? A ten percent
of her like wow, bond of like your bail. It's like,

(01:32:29):
I don't know that's your bond. Hey, guys, I just
did you guys know? I just heard this today and
it's going to change life as we know it forever.
Did you know did you hear about the big porn
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(01:32:53):
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(01:33:16):
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(01:33:38):
for you. Trust They're coming for everybody. Their end of
the year's thing is always fascinating when they tell you,
like who like the most googled you know, keyword for
different states are different kinds, Like, I'm all fascinating, fascinating.
I wonder who won this year. They did release a
Christmas album, though one released the Christmas album. Yeah, they

(01:34:02):
got a new album out with like select like a
sapping some people. I don't I feel bad that I'm
the jingle ball. You know, hip hop and porn coming
all over the town. Yes, yes, you know Dick the halls.

(01:34:28):
I saw Mommy kissing Dad in Santa Claus. You know
that one. Just there's Dick though, that's what that's the
that's love. Um Steve, I know Cobra Kai was your
jam this year, so your fire got stolen. But that

(01:34:51):
school it might have been the best best thing I
saw it. Yeah, I guess he be cold Steve, one
of the you know, we have a TV show out
to me my friends be cooler. Yeah, that's where I
want to come in. Guilty Pleasures are now talking about
shows we love like that are great. Yes, yes, I'm transitioning, transitioning, Yes, transition.

(01:35:12):
I liked the Crown. Is this here good? I hear
a lot of people talking about this. Uh, they're all good, Diana,
Oh yeah, oh yeah, this bitch Camilla is gangster. Go ahead, sorry,
Queen's gambit. I love Queen's gambit. I said out a
check that I heard. It's good. I love Queen's gambit.

(01:35:34):
It's it's it's the white girl version of I can
hear Fante right now saying that this is the what
was what was fresh. Yeah, it's the white Girl version
a fresh Oh wow wow, Okay, yeah, it's it's a
chess it's a chess movie, a chess series, but it's

(01:35:54):
rather engaging in charming and I can't nobody's brought it
up yet. But I watched that Hugh Grant joint undoing.
The Undoing is yes, yes, yes, yes, fantastic episode six
any else Steve uh corn Hub and before they took

(01:36:19):
the away And I have my own network on social
media on Instagram, so I'm usually watching that the network.
He ain't got time for that. Okay. I don't watch
a lot of the craft you guys talking about. I
fell into selling the Sunset, which okay. A good friend

(01:36:44):
of mine is a writer at ESS at Saturday Night Live,
and she was supposed to do um a spoof of
it and I didn't get her script, and she's like, well,
you have to watch the show first. I was like,
all right, I'll watch an episode, and then I messed
around and started watching like all three c like within
a two day period, and that was like the lowest point.
I had a prime reason why we had our guests

(01:37:13):
on today for this uh for this episode is I
really really loved ted last so and I almost feel
like we would have to I'd have to share like
our text history as I was watching it more because
you could feel me getting I felt like you manipulated us, Jason,

(01:37:35):
I feel like you manipulated us. All right, So this
is the last time I heard this. This even brought
up in this way was with uh, Spike Lee and
Annabella Sire in Gentible Fever, and which Spike accused Annabella
of like really changing the character to be more likable
then he wanted her to be. And I felt like, Okay,

(01:38:00):
you're trying to show me from from the pilot. I
was like, Okay, I'm not gonna like this guy. He's
gonna be like Michael Scott on The Office. I get
what I'm about to watch, and it's totally not that. Like,
how did you even sell this concept to to even work? Yeah,

(01:38:20):
I mean we had these commercial the commercials that the
character is based on that did well, Like we're trying
to sell the English Premier League showing up on NBC Sports,
and it was all about a way to get American
football fans into British football soccer. Uh, And so it
had like a little bit of like you know, heat
with that, but the character was totally different, and with
the whole style and the ethos and the Philosopher's show

(01:38:42):
was going to be a little bit more lived in,
and you know, almost like we always sort of use
like you know, like Nora Ephron or or um Ron Sheldon.
You know who did you know, Bull Durham and Tim Coff.
He got game and now he got white men can't jump?
You know, uh, you know Blue Chips. You know, he
did all those movies, Ronch Sheldon did, And so I

(01:39:03):
just was like, oh, it's gonna be it's a little
bit more lived in. So it's it's more sincere. And
it was tough though. I mean I think they bought
it thinking it was gonna be what you thought it
was going to be. And then as as the script
started to come in, and then as the you know,
daily started to come in, and you know, we just
kept bumping it into what it was supposed to be
versus what people thought it was going to be, but
a hundred percent aware of the fact what people thought

(01:39:24):
it was gonna be. And so yeah, your text history,
I mean I gave you all like the I'll give
you the you know, the Criterion collection like audio commentary
of like, yeah, here's what we're doing, and and and
and because I think that's one of the neat things.
You know, well, I mean because the whole concept came
up in you know, pre ferguson pre Trump coming down
the thing pre times Upper, you know, like hope and

(01:39:46):
empathy never goes out of style. And it probably would
have benefited then because the same vibe and I think
that part of the same vibe that you might even
be aware of that you loved about Detroit's is pushing
through this. It's about you know, it's the out sort
of seeing the best in people and you know, and
that was all about Tim and sam Sy and the
best in Detroit, you know, and just doing like the

(01:40:06):
you know eight mile or like you know, you know,
burnt out, you know, Chrice there, you know, factories. It
was like yeah and so like and so we did
that with this, but using years of exposition of sports
films to you know, to our benefit that we could
twist things and flesh them out. And then and then
a lot of the last ten years of like you know,

(01:40:29):
you know what dude anti heroes both you know, like
whether it's Don Draper or White, Tony Soprano, I mean,
Michael Scott, David Brent, you know, and just sort of
like flip it on. It's here and just come at it,
you know, like sincerely and and and let people just
assume that. Like did you watch that the documentary about

(01:40:49):
Mr Rodgers? You know, you know, won be my neighbor.
Like if you watch that, like in Moderity, even if
you watch it now, you will watch it's two hours long.
You will be waiting. You're gonna be like, okay, when
is he touching kid? Like We're just conditions were so
cynically gonna happen here it comes again, all right, like
nothing and he's just pure and it's just and it's

(01:41:11):
just like yeah, and so Ted is just like this.
He's not perfect by a means, but he's you know,
this eagleist thing that people put their ship on. And
we did that as viewers and well we we all
you know, we're messing with it. It was a unicorn
to me because I'm like, really like, this guy knows
how to up rock like a B boy and quote

(01:41:32):
fight from a trap called quest. I broke that all
thank you? All right, I'm gonna get this whole free
trial at TV. Jason, I gotta get it. Now, go
back and listen to this whole podcast. Yeah you know
what I mean. Like when you were like at the Unicorn,
I was like, I was like, yeah, that's my I'm

(01:41:56):
telling the fact that you had low ex picked taitions
or whatever. It's like I didn't have no more. Just
wasn't streaming service. I wasn't ready. It's about having any
expect it's about Jon. So I follow you pretty much
where you go anyway, and I know it's going to
be good and funny. But now the job broke it down.
I'm like, sorry, oh, but it's like it's like a

(01:42:19):
whole it's a whole vibe and the cast is incredible,
Like we got such so many good people, like the
right staff and every just gave it. Damn. Like it's
it's it's it's a really neat thing and it's something
really fun to be a part of. Much Less, you know,
like tell Less Joe. He said, it's a character, yes,
but it's mostly a vibe. Like when you watch it,
you're kind of like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is this
is Jason, come on it. Yeah, Okay, since you since

(01:42:44):
you Quasi mentioned it. Um. I'm also one of these
people that it gets mostly attached to a series and
if it if the series ends prematurely before it's time,
I will slow down. Like I still haven't finished the
last four episodes of Detroitters yet, because I know it

(01:43:07):
that's it. Is there any way possible another network? Another
or the guys are just like we tried no godly,
I I guar. I mean, I can't speak for them,
but but I mean that thing deserved a third season.
That thing deserved like they were, they were there, there

(01:43:31):
was they they're so Tim and Sam were so special
as like individual performers and then their their chemistry together
and they're you know, they're really that. They're like that
in real life, you know, and we and and Joe
Kelly who was one of the you know, producers and
writers on ted Lasso and one of the original creators
of the commercials with me that Um and Zack Cannon,
you know, like they were they were finding their group.

(01:43:51):
They were finding their group with that show, and you know,
it was a bummer. It was a real bummer. H
But I'm glad that those two reasons exist at least,
But I don't I don't blame you for taking your
tom with it because it's it's it's things we tried,
We tried, you know, all sorts of ways, you know.
And Ken Alterman, who was in charge of Commisential the time,
was really a big fan of it too. And you know,

(01:44:14):
it's tough. It's tough, you know that. I think it
would have found its audience in that third season because
it just you know, yeah, I was gonna say, if
anybody out there that needs new content of like anything
they overlooked or they're like, Okay, what else is left
to watch, it's a great one. It's like for me,
I'm still amazed. There's one particular episode that is such

(01:44:39):
Detroit inside speak. That's what I knew I had to
pay attention. Um many people don't know is that Stevie
wonders My Eyes Don't Cry jam smells like teen spirit,
like I played before. I let go at a Black

(01:45:02):
Detroit function once and it was like a middle and
it's sort of like a response and the guy ran
up to me and says, I know what you're searching for.
Play my Eyes Don't Cry by Stevie Wonder. I was like,
that's all. Get the funk out of here. I'm playing
superstition and I let the By the end of the night,
he says, I'm gonna tell you I would never steal

(01:45:23):
you wrong. Find a way to get into Stevie Wander
his my eyes, don't cry and see what happens, and
I put it on do even the garbagemn outside ran
in to start doing line stepping. I've never seen such
like chaos over a song that I was like, why
this song is not a hit? Is it even a jam?

(01:45:46):
But the fact that they managed to play this seven
times on that show, knowing what I know about song
clearance and whatever, I can only imagine the love letter
that somebody had to give to Stevie Wonder a state
to be like, this is an inside joke. We're gonna

(01:46:07):
play the songs sometimes. I don't even know. Yeah, I
don't know how we got it. That's the first That's
the first question I asked Stevie Wonder when asking for
Brittain permission for clearance for my own project. I was like,
forget all that. How did you clear that song for
Detroit is seven times? Like, that's how much I love it.
So I'm just saying that that that that's how much

(01:46:29):
I love that show. So the most Yeah, I mean
the fellow directed um Parasite. You know when I was
watching that, you know, the ostras said that Scorsese didn't
I forget how you said his name. I actually didn't
see Parasite yet, but like, I know, I know, I
just because I've been editing, I've been like, okay, I've
been just thinking of you know, fake World the whole time,

(01:46:51):
not not having the chance to dig around in others
twenty twenty. But when he said, you know, the most
personal is that you know, the most personal is the
most what do you say that? Sorses said, like the
most personal is the most Uma. No, I think it's
like the most person is the most original. And it

(01:47:12):
might be I should look at up. I apologize. All
I know is that phrase reminded reminded me of what
we were trying to do with Ted Lasso, but in
the same way that I loved how how specific you
know we call him two percentage jokes on Ted last words,
like we know that the reason we got to do
this show is because the soccer community embraced those early commercials,
and so we put little jokes in there that are
only for the you know, the like the big soccer

(01:47:33):
football fans, and Tim and Sam and Joe and Zach
did that with Detroitter's all the time for Detroit specifically,
and it was just yeah, I just love it, just
love for for what they're doing and no no judgment,
and and that comes across and then you feel like
you're in on the joke. Even if you don't get
the joke, you feel like you're in on the joke,
you know. Like that's one of the things that we
talked about, like with the Allen Iverson speech and the

(01:47:54):
Ted Lasso thing, was like, you get the joke, that's
your the reference, that's great, but if you don't, it
still plays. And now you used to say about Monty
Python all the time. It's like, yeah, if you know
you know King Arthur history and like you know folklore,
then yeah, Holy Grail works on. It's just really good jokes,
you know. It's it's like, you know, and Detroit's. Yeah,

(01:48:15):
it was a definite version of Ted does a brilliant
reference to practice exactly not again, Yes he does. It's brilliant.
So did you guys lose friends or did you gain friends?

(01:48:38):
In I didn't lose friends. I don't think I lost anyone.
I think it just again, this was to me was
just a year of revelation, and I think this is
just the year I didn't lose friends, but I really
realized the importance of my friends, and I really saw

(01:48:58):
like who was really down for you? You know what
I'm saying, Like, and you know, and I think for
a lot of people, A big thing for me was
just looking at your life and realizing that if you
have people in your life that can't serve you now
at a point in time where things are at this
most uncertain, you're at your most vulnerable. You know, you're

(01:49:19):
at your you know, your most just kind of crazy.
If you have people in your life that can't serve
you in this time, then they never served you at all,
you know what I'm saying, Like, if you can't you
know what I'm saying, If the people in your life
ain't showing up for you right now, then it's like
what did I ever need you for? You know what
I mean? And so that was a big thing for me,

(01:49:41):
just you know, I don't think I lost nobody, but
the ones that you know, it's been really been my
day one is like they really showed up for me
in real, real ways, and you know, we showed up
each other in real ways, and it just strengthened that
bond even more. Okay, anyone else, Yeah, I mean I
wish I had that note. I feel like I feel

(01:50:03):
like I gained friends a little bit like when you um, like, uh,
when you look through the drawer that has T shirts
you haven't worn in a while, you're kind of like, right,
I love this shirt, or you know, you look through
the back of the closet like a little bit like that,
where you you know, you know, revisited friends that maybe
I I you know, forgotten. But but again, I think
it was more about losing going to my own, going

(01:50:26):
in my cave and then coming out like a little
bit like bleary eyed and then realizing, oh, here we
are and you know, allowing people to see me again,
versus maybe you know, they were maybe there the whole time.
So I think it's a little bit of almost the
inverse of what you were what you were just speaking about.
Do you think with um with this year then with
COVID everything, do you think that played a role in

(01:50:48):
you and Olivia choosing to split or was that something
that was kind of coming anyway, you think. No, I
think that I had a lot of think I had
had a lot to do it. I think, you know,
I mean, you know, I when we'll see, we'll see.
You know, life is long, you know. I feel I
feel like all sorts of stuff that still happen, you know,

(01:51:10):
living longer and longer every day. That's true, that's true,
and starting new chapters in new errors. Yeah, when you
have and when you have, when you have children, there's
that you know we're gonna be you know, we're gonna
share grandkids as our kids fucken so so well, you

(01:51:37):
know we'll see, you know, but we'll see bills, you know.
I don't know, really hard to think to pass up
all the bill have lost their gate and I don't know.
Status quo. I think I live on my own island
and do my own ship. I think this is right.
When you have kids, like your life is different, it's not.

(01:51:57):
I don't know. My life is about my kids pretty
much time, all the time. So they're still my friends.
I think. I hope, Sugar Steve, I'm always making new
friends people people really love me. Yeah, this is true,
that is true. What's that saying you're shugging that works,

(01:52:19):
rolling rolling tight. Yeah, like Maypole, You're just you know,
slow and steady, and people can just like rob the
love around you. You're just like, you know, I haven't
been dealing with a loss of friends, but I will
say I miss I miss I mistouched, And for me
it's been real deep, Like even when I was talking

(01:52:39):
to y'all, was like, not for nothing I missed, like
coming into a studio and hugging all of y'all and
pushing step away and like I just I mean, it
sounds so simple. Don't say that with that red light
on quest love. Don't do that. But months without What

(01:53:05):
about eye contact? I missed eye contact Like we were
doing writing our whole second season, like in a zoom room.
And then I remember getting a pair of headphones for
my buddy Brendon, who plays Coach Beer, as like a gift,
you know, so that you know, for playing FIFA together,
and he drove by and I was just joking around
and about throw it in the car, you know, like
that's still wrappings and plastic, and just seeing him in person,
I was like, hey, like you're real three dimensions? Are

(01:53:31):
you kidding? Yeah? I totally forgot about that, like by
you know, August, you know, he just like this didn't
didn't register anyone. Yeah, you don't realize you have not
been touched by like an't been touched by like one
two people don't happen. Hey, can I ask a question?
Did you know how Wellner over at SNL? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

(01:53:53):
you know he's the closest you know, the person that
I that I know that as you know, you know
I had from covid um. Yeah. I mean one of
my favorite stories about how you know, my first year
at S and L is two thousand three, and I
was a writer and in between dress and air, you know,
all fifty of us, you know, all the cast members
and all the writers are all packed into Lauren's room
and people are sitting on the floor and they're sitting

(01:54:15):
all over the place. And I'd seen that how like
walking around and I knew, you know, he has very
very conspicuous look. He's one of those guys that looked like,
you know, their muppet would look identical to them, you know,
like and he and he was sitting Indian styre cross
leg and I'm sorry, I don'tink that's what we're saying now.
And I was sitting on the floor too, and and
and he was just rocking back and forth, just like this,

(01:54:36):
just rocking back and forth. And I was just kind
of like looking at him, and I knew he had
been around the show for you know, since the earlier
early on, and he just kind of looks at me
like if like the camera, here's my my eyes. He's
just rocking back and forth, and he just looks at me.
And it was I remember when this whole room was
filled with pot smoke right back to it was it

(01:54:57):
was like it was like Laslow from Real g It
was it was just the story and then you know
what I mean, Yeah, he just had all these stories,
and he just really took a shine to me. You know.
I know, you know, other people in my generation, like Mullaney,
we're even closer to him, or like Fred obviously they
could you know, go hours talking about music and deep

(01:55:18):
cuts and stuff. But but he he was always encouraging
me to like watch weird stuff. You know. He wanted
me to host like a Playboy After Dark kind of
series with them. You know, He'd always asked me to
do like side gigs that he was doing at Town
hall To. But you know, like Lou read stuff and
he just he just he was really really amazing and
that one hit, that one hit me hard because I

(01:55:39):
was like, that's that's the closest I've had And so
I can't I can't even remember when I saw him last.
It might have been actually in like at the beginning
of the year, the beginning like February, whenever I left
played Yeah, how how was our our guy at thirty
rock Man? He'd always have some trivia I didn't know

(01:56:00):
about about music, and I'm just now discovering the second
time that we played SNL was because of how we
we did a project with um took to the may
To House, and I didn't realize that How was the
one that organized, like how was the label and and

(01:56:22):
the wh put it all together. I didn't know who
he was back in uh two thousand and three when
we did it. Yeah we did. We did SNL twice roots,
Yeah we did. I forgot about and then the uh
yeah that when two of the main house was on
the show. Yeah that was my first season. Yeah wow

(01:56:44):
we were yeah, man, so you know what, well, okay,
that leads to what Celebt death hit you the hardest
this year, I think for me Black Panthers because that
that one for me that just came out of nowhere.
I was like what, like what because no one knew

(01:57:04):
he was sick. So that was and it was crazy.
So a buddy of mine, um was his producing partner,
my homie, UM, my homie Logan Logan colds and who
wow to really bring folks first circle. Me and him
hung out together at the block party at the Days
Rebel block party. Um yeah, and so Logan um and Logan,

(01:57:25):
he just it was it was a crazy ship for
I've known Logan since the guy this price is like
oh four, so it's probably like sixteen years I've known
this guy. And Logan would always tell me. He'd be like, yeah,
so you know, I'm working man, and you know, me
and my producing partner Chad, me and my homie Chad,
we're doing this and me and my homie Chad. He
was just always just mentioned his homie chat and so
it wasn't until I think like last year. I think

(01:57:48):
it was last year year for last he had uh chat.
He did a movie called twenty one Bridges. It was
like he played this cop. It was just like this
cop joint and it was actually pretty pretty good flick.
But um, Logan was on Twitter. He was like, yeah,
you know I'm I'm producing this movie. You know. He
was bigging up the movie. And I hear him. I
was like, hold up, dude, you didn't even tell me
all these fucking years the homie Chad you've been talking

(01:58:09):
about it's sucking chat with Bowsman. He was like yeah.
I said, holy shit, I didn't even know. And so
y'all went and saw it and I hit him. I
hit Logan like when he was the first one I
hit when I got the news and I just checked.
I was like, bro, you good, like how you are
he and he was just like devastated and he said, man,
you know he's as crazy he said, because you know
the next time he was in l A, I wanted

(01:58:30):
to link y'all luck because he was he fun with
your music. I was like, whord. He's like, yeah, man,
you Carolina, like he'sa you know he was South Carolina.
You know you North Carolina. He's like, man, yeah, he
funk with Little Brother all that ship. He said he
wanted to fund with you. I was like, damn, I
had no idea. But um, but that was super That
was just super sad for me, Like it was just
a sour note on top of an already sour year

(01:58:52):
that happened. Yeah, Kobe, definitely. That feels like it was
two years ago, right before March. I remember who happened when?
Because I still feel like I didn't even give Ali
her goodbyes and she was like a guest on our show.
Yeah for real, when the Alie was passed away? Uh,

(01:59:12):
I guess maybe maybe that was the end of Okay, Yeah,
it wasn't during Okay, you know, it wasn't during during COVID,
but we we lost some folks. I lost them on
from this thing. So really yeah, for me, I think
like Bill Withers, yeah, passing, Like I always dreamed of

(01:59:36):
getting them on the show. And he was one of
my books people too. Yeah yeah, and so that that
kind of threw me for a loop. Oh nothing, just
got sad. Like Alie died last year, she got twenty
nineteen on Christmas Eve? Whoa okay, as it was like

(02:00:00):
right before right around that time. Steve Herman Kane answer,
that's a good answer. Well he's still tweeting, you can
for real? Oh yeah, they still they still tweeting Herman Kane.
Oh you don't know that. Oh you don't do on
Twitter like that. Oh no, Herman Kane. They the Kane Trains,

(02:00:23):
the rolling Baby, still giving talking points, even despite how
he died, still on Twitter. Dog still Oh god, I
was for the answer for me as how. And I
would encourage our listeners to check out all of his
amazing albums that he put out over the years, tribute
albums to everybody from from Monk to the most recent one,

(02:00:45):
which was a tribute to t Rex all right that
came out right after you passed away. So um streaming
or stuff. I mean, you guys are giving ads for
ice cream? I can right, absolutely absolutely yeah. Ain't nobody
saying nothing? All right? Shot? Oh then you know down

(02:01:09):
download him? What's yours bill? People who died? Yeah? Which
which one hits you? Rock to you a little bit
harder in Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Yeah? Wow, damn oh, I
was gonna say. I remember making a mixtape of just
Eddie Van Halen's guitar solos, just just only the solos,
like one after another. And that's and I would, you know,

(02:01:32):
ride my bike to go play basketball place called the
athletic club and just be just yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was crazy, just you know, eruption over and over, yeah,
to be Okay. I was gonna ask what was the
most ever, probably for me, the disappointment of the amount

(02:01:57):
of peers that I have in in this industry, how
they disappointed me politically, just one by one, Um mega mans.
I wasn't I wasn't ready for that at all. How
about how you got caared the first day you moved
into your mansion farm? You know what we actually here's

(02:02:25):
here's the deal. Though. The deal is I am the
I'm the youngest person up there. The average neighbors somewhere
between like seventy and ninety. So I would say that
maybe that particular person, like we definitely had the conversation,
it was misunderstanding. He and I was like, no, no,
I knew I was welcoming you, but you know, I

(02:02:48):
was just still a little alarmed that just walked into
my crib, like, so you're in this place. You know,
maybe he could have chosen a better opening sentence than that,
but you know, just based on what I was walking into,
I wasn't expecting you should have done that At his
house and see how I played over that I wouldn't
be here or whatever exactly. Yeah, we be yeah right,

(02:03:16):
and we're not back on Supreme. Wow, that's that's dark.
That was right there. Yeah, I'll say that. Um yeah,
they're just you know, and I know black people aren't
supposed to throw each other under the bus and on

(02:03:38):
stuff publicly, like we don't do that ship. But man,
when I when I saw someone give the seed to Lors,
Tucker was right post that, that hit me kind of hard.
See the lords Tucker was right about, like yeah, just
like the fuccory of I mean, it's it's somewhere somewhere
between you know, uh, black and black crime, holdtep one

(02:04:05):
on one and just like the so called black contract
thing and whatever, like you know, I just yeah, I mean,
it's more than him. It's like practically every political hot
take talking point was just asked backwards. And I know

(02:04:25):
people quote meant well, but you know, now is the
time to not be changing horses in the middle of
the stream. It's okay, all be forgotten. It's called all
be forgotten. You think, Nah, man, I'm telling you, like
it's I don't know, I mean, I at so what

(02:04:50):
was the most for you, What's what happened the other
day that I saw And I was like, did I
put it in the group chat? Something happened? I feel
like every days something happens. That is the most things.
I'm not gonna be on my black ship, but I
do think the world discovering Juneteenth was a pretty moment.

(02:05:11):
But that's just yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd never heard of
it in my life because in my mom most likely
that everybody think that everybody was independent on seventeen sevent
be straight up, like black people really weren't even celebrating
twenty June tenth like that. I mean there's a certain

(02:05:34):
sect of black people, yeah dependent nationwide. Yeah yeah, yeah,
it was you know, they knew about it, but they
didn't know about you know what I mean. But you
know how we are. Sometimes we got to see white
people people to acknowledge at first, and we'd be like, yeah,
that's right, that is It's just that that's the truth
that we'll talk about. Okay, I feel okay, I remember

(02:05:58):
what it was. The most thing I saw was the
advertisement for the Lifetime Original movie with Mario Lopez as
General Sam As as Sanders, the Kentucky frien Chicken Jason,
have you seen this Holy port? He didn't, he's been editing.

(02:06:20):
He was just a lifetime. It's a it's a lifetime.
We want your life where you don't have to go
through this? Is it recent last weekend? Give me one second,
you'll give me one second. You remember how Will Farrell
and and and what's your name? Did? They did a

(02:06:42):
real lifetime movie and they did that ironically. Yeah, what
I'm saying this has to be the follow up to that.
And he's playing Carl Sanders. Mario Lopez is playing Colonel Sanders.
Say by the bill got them a c. Slater playing
Colonel motherfuck Sanders. A little love story with the whole nine,

(02:07:08):
with the with the fucking the little string tie. Everything
he's doing, he's not he's not doing a Southern accent.
He's like, I mean, he's basically talking like Mario little bitz.
But but there And it's a Lifetime original movie or
it's a mini movie. I think it's only like minutes
original recipe, original recipe. Man, it's only like fifteen minutes.

(02:07:35):
They about this, right, It isn't going to tell that story? Yeah, no,
I mean the real story that this is actually a
Kentucky for our Chicken commercial alternative advertising that they're trying out,
Like this is I did not know this, yeah, yeah,
thirteen I missed it there the thirteen. But it's called
a recipe for seduction. Okay now now now, now is

(02:08:02):
the time for me to do slight confessional. So in Japan,
their relationship with Fried Chicken is on another level. Christmas time.
Christmas time in Japan UH is more akin or closer
to Valentine's Day. So what happens is from December to

(02:08:26):
about UH New Year's Eve, Like December, you and your
loved one you take a staycation in a sexy hotel
and you bring with you for an after and after
session snack and post cod is an an eighteen piece

(02:08:48):
UH KFC dinner. It's like eight it's a it's a tradition,
like there are lines around the corner of every KFC
in Japan around Christmas time because you got stock up
on your bucket of chicken and you get your love hotel.
They got little love hotels for couples. They don't know
about papays though, because no, no, this Japan. So they

(02:09:12):
offered me. So there was there was once uh discussion
of putting me in that position as sort of the
face of no, I'm gonna tell you what we're not
about to do. Wait, this was two thousand and seven.
Do you think I did it? I know you didn't
have to marry, but they yeah, but they yeah, I

(02:09:37):
got offered that that's what we're not about to do it. Yeah.
So that's my slight confessor. Anyway, my last question, my
last question, what's what's the silver lining? What's really that's

(02:10:00):
the silver lineing clarity, my answers versus my answers versus. Okay,
oh you mean in civilnia in that way. Okay, well
you know what I would say, the civil line if
we speak speaking on that, on that on that type
of time. D Nice like he was the winner of
like the c M level up the way he had

(02:10:21):
and not for nothing. D Nice was the hero of
and the last three months because sometimes to get a
little pudgep so it was Nice. Wonder I just gotta say,
because because the records, I'm just saying, the records sometimes
they be the same record. But I love you and
you and big ups to him from going from a
downtown department in Los Angeles to the Hollywood Hills with
a pool. Big up to you, d nice because he

(02:10:44):
moved child. Yes, you need to look at that that ground.
Watch that that ground of me, watch that ground range.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, my man is in a different
tax bracket with another comma. Wow. Okay, led he leveled up?
All right, Steve, what was your silver lining of? Wow?

(02:11:05):
Everything and everybody was revealed completely. And also the thing
on Instagram with with the new feature with ls yeah reels, Yeah,
that's like that. Yeah, imagine what your real content looks out.

(02:11:31):
Okay your favorite scroll down? Okay, okay, uh Bill, who
is your silver lining of? I don't know. I think
that we're lucky enough to live in a profession whatever industry.
We can still be work done, and you can still
make ship. You can edit shit, and I can write

(02:11:54):
ship in the mirror. You can make ship fanta, you
can wrap shit, you can have three jobs. We don't
still make sure we've found our way out of the
ship and I and my hope is that we keep
using it. I think just just revealed just how much
of the customs we had were just sucking, outdated and
fucking pointless, you know what I mean? And like you know,

(02:12:16):
I think now, you know, taking a meeting, flying for
a meeting, man, listen, you know what I mean. It's
like so like I went to like one of my
boys got married. Man, listen, y'all see me. No, you know,
I went my man, my man got married the other day,
my home, you got married Saturday, and you know it

(02:12:37):
was on zoom and you know, me and my wife
were sitting there at the table, We're watching it and
it literally was probably like twenty minutes because all we
watched was the vows. You know what I mean. Man,
I logged off. I was like, yo, I ain't gotta
go to another guy that were in my life because
that ship was great. We saw everybody, Like the bride
came to the camera and was like, hey, thank you
all for coming guys. I appreciate it. You know, we

(02:13:00):
put something in the little gift registry whatever. And then
my ass was back on the couch and she was great.
M hm. I get that way about press really about
what about press? You know, just like you know, having
to do junket interviews and just like you know, being
able to talk show after talk show like in August
and September and just doing it, doing it like this,

(02:13:21):
and that was it was great to not have to
leave the family and leave you know, do all that
as much as we were joking about, you know, missing
an airport, but for little things like that, you know,
don't get me wrong, I'd give me the writers from
every time. I believe the outcomy of human beings being
in the same space. I believe in that power, that magic.
But like for for you know, for press, but for me,
my my diskliver lining, I think is having my have

(02:13:42):
my heart broken open. What do you think was keeping?
Was it? Was it when you got it broken open?
Was that when you realize it had been closed all
this time? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, like I yeah, not all
this time, but but but for a chunk of time
to you know, yeah, you know, and that and that

(02:14:03):
sometimes is uh. I think that happens a lot with fear,
you know, when you know, I know, I know, radio
and human said it's love and hey, but don't all
that it's love and fear, you know, and uh and yeah,
and I think that that fear can can come and
get them. Uh. And so it's better better to you know,

(02:14:23):
run right at it. So I learned that's true. Double Wait,
what's that for that was a good I'm sorry I
was that was a good. That was sometimes you do
it like listen up with me or you need this,
and I was like, I'm listening. I also was sitting

(02:14:44):
here thinking that this is a silver lining too, because
at the end of the day, Zoom and FaceTime has
been like silver lining. I mean, this is what as
I talked to my parents and who this is the
longest in my whole entire lifetime that I've ever been
a part away from them, you know, every morning on
the FaceTime. No, this is it's like it's it's been.

(02:15:06):
It's been the craziest Black Mirror episode ever because what
it did, like you know what I'm saying with with
Zoom and everything, essentially, what is done is it changes
the way we process intimacy. So you know, like things
that used to look that you would look at as trivial,
like if someone texted you, he's like it's a text
whatever in the wrong of years, like you have his

(02:15:26):
hell to see it text a FaceTime, it's like, holy
sh it, you know what I mean? Like those things
they take on a deeper meaning. Yep. Right, So do
we assume that quote when this is all over. It
just basically means, but we don't have to wear masks anymore,
That's what That's what it means now, and not when
we don't have to wear a mask anymore, when folks

(02:15:48):
feel comfortable not wearing a mask anymore. To right, you
can pass a joint again. Facts facts, facts, Wow, I
never thought about that, yeah, you know, which is why
I've been spending so much goddamn money, probably too because

(02:16:08):
I ain't smoke other. You ain't smoken with other. Fele
You're in the right town now for it. You know
you're in the right you know not you know what
a block away? And I know they didn't turned up
the prize. No, no, no, I wasn't saying that. I'm

(02:16:29):
just saying that it's here, and so it's here and
I'm waiting to be over so I could it could
be here? Yeah, I know, why didn't we have? We known?
We usually do? You know, I just want to say that, um,
you know, I think the moment we realized this was
the real thing was during the Dawn Lewis episode where
it was like, oh wow, our lives, Like we realized

(02:16:53):
at that moment that our lives were going to change.
Because we kept getting text over like co workers getting
sick and all those things, and so you know, to
where we are now. You know, I'm glad that we
are all physically healthy, although I miss our group pictures
ce Jason. Right now, we'd be impressing you with our

(02:17:15):
nice I heart studio with the lights that click on,
with the music and stuff. We'll be let's take a picture,
right But you know it's all good. Yea sa cap.
But however, um yeah, you know, may we may we
have a a healthier and the prosperous spirits up quest love.

(02:17:41):
We got a whole new president of office at the
very least we got that. Come on now, come on now,
all right, And I'm also being considered that someone's to
sleep in the other okay, okay, because she's about to
be up at five exactly want a trampoline. But Jason,

(02:18:01):
I thank you for joining our year in review. Oh man, yo,
and for I forget dude. I just wanted to tell you, man,
I told it, for it, for you leave. Bro. My
favorite fucking role of yours man Shane from fucking eastbounding down. Bro.
When I tell you that is like every white dude

(02:18:23):
I went to High School with I met Oh my god,
like you nailed that ship broach. That's you know, that's
like you know, you know, I mean those dudes Danny
and Jodie Hill and David you know, David were in Green.
I wish I would have known that school existed when
I was, you know, between my nineteen and twenty three,

(02:18:44):
because I would have gone to North Carolina School of
the Arts. So I knew I was gonna, you know,
find guys like that, because those are dudes that just
are fun to play with them, whatever sandbox they create.
So yeah, I've just good dude. So fund on the
play catch up of those dudes I said, I love
when found they turned into Chris Farley at the end
of the episode. Hey man, that was awesome. Thank you

(02:19:09):
owned the DVD. Yeah, I was gonna say, Jason, uh yeah,
when season two is upon us or even your next project,
we have to do a proper episode talk about the
basketball star. Yeah, yes, no, all those things, but yeah,
we caught you at our year end episode where we
sort of neutralize our guests to be one of the

(02:19:31):
one of the crew of the flatter to get the
harm alcohol. This is the most sober episode besides unpaid Bill,
this is the most sober episode that we've had so far.
But anyway, but thank you for joining us. Guys, have
a safe Thank you for bringing us joy and last holiday. Yes,

(02:19:52):
all right, so I be happy? Yes sure, Steve Fan, Tigelow,
I'm paid Bill and Jason stas is much love and
we will see you next year from the next girl
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