Questlove Supreme: Jason Sudeikis

Is There a Year to Review? with Jason Sudeikis

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I like the way I like the way them fingers tickle.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
That's a mirror.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Oh oh wow.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Well they'll they'll.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I like the way you're.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Finish, you know, I mean thank you what, I'm honored.
I think, you know, I play a little song.

Speaker 6 (00:31):
I think type like a person that like went to
type in class.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Do you do an d F and.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
Hyland?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
That ship one of the best things we ever learned
in school.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh my god, this though.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
My children have computers to run their lives, but they
never learned how to type. So like they can do it,
but like it's they do this.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
They typed like a police police officers on television.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
All right, I'm gonna bring Jason and the place and.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
All right, well, ladies and gentlemen, we've come to that
time of the year again. You know, guys, we're creeping
up on our fifth year as a family. I believe
that shit is crazy. It is crazy twenty sixteen when
we started right sixteen, Yeah, I kind of feel like

(01:25):
it's always weird. Like I always feel like we're on
our proverbial like second year going into maybe the third year,
like but we're we're about to be half a half
a decade deep in this. We're no longer the bell
of the ball, you know. Ogs straight up, I feel
like someone's gonna be like goobies anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I can't believe you're still doing this after.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I didn't think I would be doing this for five
years when I agreed.

Speaker 7 (01:52):
When Sean called me and was like, hey, you want
to do this, I was like, yeah, I didn't think
it last couple.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Of months, right other episode, Nobody can find the.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
Same way Alec Alec Baldwin felt about playing Trump. It
just sneaks somebody, man.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, the whole thing exactly.

Speaker 8 (02:13):
The fact that no one's like, why Trump didn't like
look into Alec Baldwin being the one that would have
voted multiple times just so he wouldn't have to play anymore.
It seems like that's where I would have gone immediately.
If anybody's pulling those levers and making those you know,
connecting those dots, it's gonna be Alex.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Like all right. So I was about to say that
it's it's our this is our year ender episode, and
as usual, uh, we bring in a spirit, a very
special guest with us to sort of trade off the
review of the year. This year, of course being unlike
any other year we've ever had, so this will probably

(02:54):
be a less about movies, TVs and and and you know,
records that we've got into, even though we'll talk about it.
But always good to have an outside voice into our circle.
It's one of my favorite cats. Of course, you know
his legacy from SNL and of course, I mean it

(03:14):
comes from the school of of Second City. We've seen
all of this films, name them from Horrible Bosses to
Hall Past the Colossal. I'm like going on the top
them out.

Speaker 8 (03:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I was gonna say, like when it when it's like
real friends, I don't do the preppy thing, but.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Wait, you know what that actually says how lazy I am?
Because I someone a friend of mine who I knew
for seven years hits me last night at one in
the morning and she says, oh my god, you're the
group that does you got me wow? And I was like, wait,
we know each for seven years, what exactly do you

(04:01):
know me for?

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Well?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, she said, like I know. Jimmy Foulon tried to
blame it on it, but she's like thirty something, But no, no, no, no,
no no. But there's this thing we we should all
everyone in this room has some sort of neuoriety where
you have that one person that just wants to go
the extra mile to neg you, you know, like act

(04:27):
like they don't care, like, oh, I know you as
a mirror. That's I get that more than anything in life,
like I used to. But my thing is that is
not humbling like that. That's not like you're not getting
a gold star because like you're not going to figure

(04:48):
out who I am. But anyway, I digress. My whole
point was that I should, even with friends come on
the show, I should prep and have their history ready
and treat them as regular guests, not just go off
the top. But you know in Drum I'm a fan
as well. Anyway, please welcome Jason's Well, I want to.

(05:08):
I want to do it, Jason, simply because when we
get to the TV portion, uh yeah. The one show
that I did not expect to be on my Wow,
that was cool. Bengo twenty twenty list was definitely ted Lasso, Like,
I had no idea how cool?

Speaker 6 (05:28):
Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
That show was gotcha very amazing.

Speaker 6 (05:34):
Hey, if I had, if I hadn't been there. The
whole time I would have been with you, I'd be like,
what is this piece of dog shit? But I.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
Had a good view soup to nuts on that whole thing,
and I was kind of this, yeah, no, it's it's
thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
No, it is it is man all right. So okay,
what I want to do is uh some rapid fire.
I know we usually have our list ready and we
go in a circle. But you know, some of us
can ans of these things. Some of us don't have to.
But I will start with layah.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Damn, I ain't.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
That's some lady first. Ladies first, lean back.

Speaker 9 (06:09):
I lean back, like I know I'm gonna be in
the cut. I'm gonna wait, okay here, I come on.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay, So we'll start with an easy one. Give yourself
some props. In twenty twenty, I.

Speaker 9 (06:24):
I got two more jobs.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yes, yes you did.

Speaker 9 (06:31):
I did, just trying to be like my brothers, well
all of y'all actually, motherfucker's on here.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, from Steve to from here to Fonte to Bill.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, I'm even Jason has various jobs like yeah, yeah
jobs next, Bill Sherman.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
I became a homeschooling almost alcoholic.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Supposed to be positive.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I think that's what that's probab Bill. You don't know, Bill,
guess what? Same? Yeah, but I don't with it?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, okay, hey.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yo same just step stepdad.

Speaker 8 (07:19):
Now, oh god, I mean can you remember, like like
think about like.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
July August, how jingly all of.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
Our recycling bags were taking them out to the tracks.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
It was it was recycling. He was starting.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
I was like, what is going on?

Speaker 8 (07:46):
I pull it out of the thing because normally there
would be paper in there. They're like Amazon boxed something
to cut it. No, just glass on glass on.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
The Warriors right, exactly.

Speaker 9 (08:00):
The biggest of box wine makers. They stepped it up
this year. I just wanted to also say.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Oh yeah, homeschooler on the Geographic Spelling Bee.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
But ship.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
In twenty twenty. In twenty twenty, I think I just
I got to the route. It was just a lot
of stuff. I finally had time. I think, like a
lot of people, I finally had time just to really
sit still and think about things. And so I just
cleaned up a lot of stuff in my life, just
a lot of things that a lot of old behaviors,
a lot of old you know, thought patterns, a lot

(08:36):
of practices, I'm in the middle now in the presenct
now like selling my townhouse, like I had, like rental property,
and I was like, yeah, I've got rental property, this
and that.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
But I realized I don't want to be no landlord. Dude, Like,
fuck this shit, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (08:50):
Anything that gets in the way of me getting to
the chair and working on my craft, that ship gota
get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
For you.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
That was a big thing for me, Okay, Sugar, Steve haircut. Yeah,
man came in. He came in with the number two
on the ball shop. What wait, can we ask about
this haircut? Steve?

Speaker 10 (09:18):
He got confidence, but people are fascinated my haircuts.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Dude. You know what I'm saying. You bring back the
Tom Hanks bos and Buddy eighty three.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Look, I think that's the cut up.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's the uncle ned. He bringing back the uncle ned
Tom Hanks from No, you'll hear.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Me the cut. That's the cut up haircut.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Oh, I see you understand what he got new, Sugar.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
In the bud, Sugar, I'm going to get something.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Look at me, Steve. Anytime a woman enters the stratosphere,
everything changes. We get a haircut, we got sexy ass
lights in the background, red light.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Haircut.

Speaker 11 (10:12):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
You Steve, it looks good man, you look younger.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Well, the real story is my dad.

Speaker 10 (10:19):
It's it's who apparently still thinks it's nineteen sixty two
and it's okay to tell tell your son to cut
his hair.

Speaker 11 (10:27):
Uh, this is what he wanted for honiguan hair.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Wait was it conditional when you know what your gifts?

Speaker 11 (10:37):
No, this haircut is five it's a five figure haircut.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
It worked out for everybody.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Was it was a good time. He really made him happy.

Speaker 11 (10:53):
So whatever, just hair.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
So what's the question.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, in.

Speaker 10 (10:58):
I I I didn't drop dead.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
That's good fact.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
You go, margals your life.

Speaker 10 (11:10):
Okay, I didn't start drinking and and I put out
a couple of records and most importantly was able to
continue to to work and.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Go to work.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah man, that's real work.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
You know.

Speaker 10 (11:26):
Well, yeah, continuously working, but then being able to go
back to thirty rocks around when July or something like that,
When do we go back?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Is that that's that it? Because that was a long answer.

Speaker 11 (11:37):
Well, half my aunt, half my an, we're talking.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
Yeah, hairgate, you know, hair.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Okay, well great, that's great, all right, Jason, give yourself
hair crops in twenty twenty.

Speaker 8 (11:53):
In twenty twenty, I I put on thirty pounds and
then I took off thirty pounds.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
A yeah, real look good over there.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
I appreciate that, you know, but no.

Speaker 8 (12:06):
I mean it's something yeah, because it was it was
a slow it was a slow march towards it. And
then I stepped on a scale and I came in.
I was coming in at two o five, which is,
you know, outside my comfy zone, and yet I was
I was rocking, you know, mostly shorts and hoodies, so
you can kind of don't feel it.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
But I knew that I wasn't feeling myself.

Speaker 8 (12:25):
And then over the last like yeah, over the last
you know, six weeks, I just kind of like got it,
you know, got after it and was like, let's see,
we gotta we gotta end twenty twenty on a make
and so yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
But it wasn't like it wasn't a it was it was.

Speaker 8 (12:39):
It was more emotional stuff and you know, uh like
I mean, yes, a little bit of diet and and
a little bit of being active, but it was mostly
just kind of like just yeah, just like you know,
like you were saying other about, you know, turning off
some of the noise and just kind of like, okay,
what's what what have I got doing? Get back, get
back to feeling yourself and then you know, not soon
after that you can actually see yourself again.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
So good did you take when y'all were taping tools?
So did you did you take the weight off before
then or prior to it?

Speaker 6 (13:08):
Then?

Speaker 8 (13:08):
Like when we shot all that last fall, like basically
you know, mid like August to mid November. So it
was pretty much a steady, a steady into this, you know,
because because you know, having a.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
Regiment, you know, where you wake up, you know, you
have your yogurt, you know.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
Then you drink a bunch of water through the day,
like it's when you know, it's when I started to
go off the clock, and you know, then it was editing,
uh and then it was you know the writer's zoom,
you know, which I'm less inclined to, you know, fuck
around snacks when they're right in front of me. But
then when you're at home then it's like then putting
the kids to bed late and then not eating until
ten o'clock and just on and mother, Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
And it's just like a pounds.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
A week and you don't even realize it, you know,
because your pants are kind of like going with you
just like I'm like, oh no, like you know, like
between my like like my body and the like.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Yeah, I was just like, no, this is this, this
cannot cannot continue. So yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Why Peloton is making a killing. Exactly who this week?
Somebody knew this week out of Peloton?

Speaker 6 (14:09):
Yeah, exactly a result.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Okay, so from a one to ten, Like, yeah, how
much did you change in twenty twenty from one to ten?
How much did you change? What's your number?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
My inner self, like my inner inner self just general,
you know what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 9 (14:32):
I feel so bad and saying this in this whole
COVID life is a five. I'm gonna say a five
because my change is more than physical and being and
being still, so it's more so I'm gonna say five.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, this is the first time I really felt like
I lived in California.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Wow, because you weren't traveling so much.

Speaker 9 (14:52):
Yeah, because I was always traveling and going back and
forth to the East Coast and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
So but you know, yeah, you miss traveling or a
well I'm.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
Sure now, hell yeah, I was just thinking the other day.
I was like, I miss us in a room recording together.
I miss my parents, I miss people who I did.
I miss East Coasters like that love. I just missed Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (15:13):
See miss I mean I missed like Airplane Wi Fi,
you know, or or watching a movie you never would
pick normally, because like.

Speaker 9 (15:24):
Jason, I was going to tell you, that's a good
way to pick what you some of your favorite movies
of the year.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
It was like, what we and yet and yet I
haven't been.

Speaker 8 (15:32):
Yeah, like I went back to New York from you know,
to play you know the last time I played Joe
Biden like and whatever. It was January February, right before
the COVID lockdown. And I can't tell you what the
hell I did on that. I probably watched cuts of
ted Lasso.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
Because I was in the middle of that.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
Yeah, I was looking at my I opened my Regal
app the other day and to see because I was thinking, like,
what was the last movie I saw on it? Dude,
I could I literally could not remember the last one
we saw. We went and saw the photograph THEA and yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Know your top ten is of the best movie for
twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yes, probably, but I saw.

Speaker 9 (16:09):
I mean I was on cable the other day. The
cinematography is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
No, it looks great, but yeah, but I saw it.

Speaker 7 (16:16):
That was the last one, and I really had to
look that up because I could not remember for shit
what it was.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah. I was going to say I do miss Jeff
Blue movies, and yeah, you didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
You didn't answer your own question, mister love. Yeah, in
twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I I changed, Okay, college a lot. I didn't change.
How did you change? I mean, we see the way
we saw the weight loss. Congrats on that. I saw.
That was just in general. Man, I never slowed down,

(16:57):
you know. I was challenged to just like I'm I'm
the king of no, which is also makes me the
king of certainty. Like if there's something I want in life,
it's certainty, which is why I like, oh, three jobs,
i'll take that. Wait, ten jobs, I'll take that, nineteen jobs,
I'll take that. So I should tell you my whole

(17:18):
my whole life is based on certainty and survival and
that sort of thing. I just I believe people will
call that a trauma response. Yes, no, bullshit all right,
which is okay. So here's here's the thing. So this year,

(17:40):
with with with the with the with one of the
records that I listened to this year, you know, Prince
released the deluxe edition of Sign of the Times, and
so I have a different relationship with that record because
there's a period between ninth and eleventh grade in which

(18:03):
my parents either had the option to have gas on
in the house or I go to this particular school.
They sacrificed to put me in a particular school so
to not have hot water and gas and all those
embarrassing things that teenagers go through, like let's go to
your house. No, no, no, no, you can't do that. How

(18:24):
can we never get to go to your house? And here,
let's go to your crib? You know that sort of thing.
You said you had all the soul trees. No, I
don't just anything anything to not show you how much
you know, because those you know, they were like not
snobby rich kids or whatever, but they were like, well

(18:45):
they had gas at the middle they had.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Middle class.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
Yeah, they got one extra roll of toilet paper under
this scene.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
Middle class.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
No real day. The day that Sign of the Times
came out in March of eighty seven was the day
that we got our gas back on. So to go
from like eighty four to eighty seven, Like not that
taught me such a lesson, but that the lesson I
learned when we finally had like hot water on in
the heat in the house, Like there was a never

(19:29):
again chip that just set off of me that I
never let go, never go through that. Yeah, yeah, never again,
Like I don't care. Like even like before you had
asked me like what are your life goals in me?
And I say like, oh okay, I like to achieve it.
No do this project. If you'd have asked me, like
maybe four years ago, what's your life goal, it would

(19:50):
probably just been never to go back to life on
Osge Avenue.

Speaker 8 (19:58):
Which I think never again is a big motivator, like
like if you when you hit that, like I know,
I'm dealing with a netver again personally, I know, and
I can think of the immediate never again. That's never
allowed me to take a job just for money. I
remember that clear as day, and it was.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Like never again, will I do that?

Speaker 8 (20:14):
It was well, I didn't mean to cut you off,
but I just I just I was I can I'll
tell you that story for let me let me take
it from here, let me no but but but I
believe that. I think that never again is a powerful thing,
even almost more so than like when you achieve a dream,
and like they're like, I'm never going to go back
to that again. I'm never going to go back to
those patterns. But for me, the never taking a money gig.

(20:36):
I was doing comedy sports in Kansas City. I did
this thing called like an improv thing, and my buddy
Corey ran the you know, ran the office, and he
gets a call from like a you know, a company
to do a corporate gig where it's like, hey, you know,
you'll you'll dress up like you know, Egyptian pharaohs and
you'll you'll carry in the person, you know, like almost
like Cleopatra style, like you know, the CEO or whatever.
And it's like, okay, great, and it's like it'll be

(20:57):
two hundred bucks like a half hour. It's like, oh,
that's great. I lived with my parents, but that was
all CD money, you know and DVDs. We show up
there and they give us a costume. And this is
right after I was playing college basketball, so like I
was in you know, about as good as shape as
I've ever been.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
In my life.

Speaker 8 (21:11):
And it was like it was like a loincloth and
like like a like a you know, like a whatever,
you know, necklace like Ruth Bader Ginsburg kind of thing,
and then like these things and basically I had to
be like half naked, you know, in the middle around
all these people and walk in and I was like,
I was.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Like, I hated it. I hated it with a passion.
And I was like, I am never like because I
the whole reason I do is because it' two hundred
bucks for thirty minutes.

Speaker 8 (21:33):
And I was like, I'm never doing that again. I
Am never taking a job solely for the money. And
that was my never again and that happened age nineteen.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
You know, I think with me though, and even with
the premises of like my earliest book, or at least
with two of them, I know that I've stated, especially
in the Creativity book, where I talked about deciding what
you wanted to be in life is first, Like David
Byrne gave me advice where he says, well, first all
decide what you're not. And I used to go by that,

(22:05):
but I think deep seated. That was there. That was
my glass half half empty approach because I never asked
myself once what would make me happy? Mm hmm. You know,
so you know I, I know you'all tired and eye
roll and every.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Time left us on a cliff.

Speaker 9 (22:24):
Now I want to know what did you come to
a conclusion?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Did you come to I.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Know that you're all tired of me always like deferring
the grace, like you know, because you have to make
the change. You just can't say like girlfriend made me
do this, but no, she just challenged me. She's like,
you you live, you live your life by I don't
want to get canceled, and I don't want to fall off,
and I don't want to be broke. It's fit. I

(22:52):
don't want to be ignored. During the war season, she's like,
what do you want to do? Like, if you're living
by defense, you can't fly. And then once once I
felt it was once I felt it was safe enough,
twenty twenty provided the time period where I felt it
was safe enough two because we were all in the
same time. And then it's like, okay, well what would

(23:13):
you like to do? So that's that's why I'll say
that that's.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Where that's a great way to fifty.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
I said this recently when we were just talking about
like like the concern of like me dealing with with
with love. And I'll get into this when when I
get my answer, but like the notion that you'd be
afraid of making that choice of going for what you
want because like the you know, fear of success and
you know is just as scary as a fear of failure, right,
And so at some point I thought, I thought, Okay,

(23:43):
if I was completely vulnerable, if I completely gave over
to to something to love, you know specifically, uh, it
would feel like I'm falling, but with just with just
a little bit of understanding, and after you've fallen for
for long.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Enough, I was like, oh, no, no, no, I'm not falling.
I'm actually flying.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I'm flying.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
I'm flying.

Speaker 8 (24:03):
And it was like I was like, and and that
I mean I said that for the first time, like,
you know, four days ago, and when I said it, it
just spilled out of my mouth. I was like, I
was like, oh, I mean that like crazy, And I
had no idea that I was going to say that,
But it makes all the sense in the world to
me because it was one hundred percent fear of falling.
And then they're just like, no, I'm not falling. It's
like I'm not going to land anywhere.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
Yeah, I'm flying. It's just you know, same sensation, you know,
it just right, just the same amount of wind.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
So what number would you give yourself from one to ten?
How much did you change in twenty twenty?

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Me personally?

Speaker 8 (24:36):
Yeah, me, Jason, I mean I would say I would say,
you know, ending ending here at the full extent.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Of the year at ten, whoa total ten.

Speaker 8 (24:46):
One hundred percent, one hundred percent, one hundred percent very scary,
very scary thing. At some point, you know, the universe
was was encouraged me to do it and given all
given all the indicators, uh, you know, and I was,
you know, just you know, like wonder Woman just blocking
them all just and then and then and then at
some point they just found the gaps and they're like, no,

(25:07):
you're gonna have to fucking deal with this. You're gonna
have to deal with this in a real, real way.
And both the highs of it and the loads of it,
you know, internally externally, like from from you know, in
a business you know side of things, and how personal
I you know, take my business and then also the
business of my personal stuff, you know, which which you know,
came home the roost and it's like yeah, and I'm

(25:30):
better for it and glad it happened.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
But I'm still on that hero's journey. So it's like, yeah,
bring on twenty twenty one. I'm ready for it. Nice
ten Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Fon Tikolo. What's your number? Man?

Speaker 7 (25:43):
I say probably, I said probably like seven eight. Probably,
it was not so much. I don't know if it
was so much. Well, it was a big change. It
was a big mental shift just then, you know, just
things that I you know, just kind of uncovered in
therapy and just you know, talking through a lot of stuff.
But it wasn't so much a big shift as much
as it was just really just settling into myself and

(26:04):
realizing what was really important to me and what I
really like, you know what I mean, And just one
of a big kind of revelation I have. Like when
we talk about movies and stuff, you talk about prints,
you know, I was watching I was thinking about Jazzy
Jeff and he has this thing he always says where
he says to die empty, where he talks to creators.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
He says, Yo, die empty, die empty. You know what
I'm saying, Like all the stuff you do, you know,
write some songs for yourself, give some songs away, produce
something for other people, whatever, but whenever you go, make.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
Sure that you know you empty, right, die empty? And
I always thought that was amazing. I was like, Yo,
that's great, I believe that. But then I kind of thought,
you know, just during the show, I was like, you
know what, I'm with it, But to die empty is
to die early, you know what I mean, Like when
I looked at all my people, like when you look
at people like Prince, and like when I watched like

(26:53):
the Zappa documentary.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
You know what I'm saying the other night. You know,
these were guys that were incredibly prolific, but them niggas
die in the fifties. Bruh, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
And it's like I just had the realization of, like,
you know, there is no way with the way my
mind works and just the way shit is just always
come to me, there is absolutely no way that I
could die empty because I'm always having There's no way
I can write every song that's in my head like
it's just no way possible in order for me to
fully give myself over to that. I could do it,

(27:23):
but literally every aspect of my life would fucking collapse,
you know what I'm saying. Everything else will collapse, and
you know, and for what for So for me, it's
just a big shift of just realizing just to get
out what you can, but always make room for the
things that are really important. And you know, it ain't

(27:45):
cool to die damn four fifty five, you.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
And that was just kind of a big thing for
me of just realizing what was important and just understanding
that if you don't write every single if you don't
develop every you know, four hundred voice note ideas in
your phone, it doesn't mean as an artist.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, I mean what was I thinking at the time period, Yeah,
it's like, dude, you're never gonna you know, just do
the ones you can and then just keep it pushing.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
That's a goal.

Speaker 8 (28:14):
To die empty feels like like, uh, you know, like
seize the day. Like it's a great idea on paper,
but like seize the day hanging out with someone that's
like Carpe DM I feel like would be exhausting that.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Is exhausting as fun.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Bro It's like rather, it's like it's like Andy Kaufman
stand up gigs.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
It's like I'd rather hear about it than be there
for the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's like having Joy Robbins as your friends, Like Nia,
I don't need to be motivated all the time.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
What's your inside voice?

Speaker 9 (28:44):
Understand but understand fel is it in this moment and
what you're saying, Fante is so beautiful. But that is
like a goal, like what you're saying, like to be
able to actually sit and say, you know what, I
feel like I've done this and I've done that, people
know and I'm filling I'm about my family.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
That is like, that's the goal.

Speaker 9 (29:02):
Do it, and to do it at a young age
where you are when people are usually.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Still in the midst of the struggle of still.

Speaker 9 (29:09):
Trying to get to a one dream done. Like I
just want to say in this moment, like what a
blessing to say that.

Speaker 7 (29:15):
And let me say that, and let me say like
because I think it goes it would be kind of
tone deaf and not say this. I mean, listen, we
are all of us on this call. We are all
you know, what most would consider, you know, financially successful people.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
You know, we don't have I'm two years off the couch.

Speaker 9 (29:31):
I like to remind people is the first thing I
said was I have three jobs because I don't.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I never want to go back to the couch three
years ago Jason.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, new money, I love it.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
But still with that.

Speaker 7 (29:46):
But even still with all that though, like just hearing
all the stories, I mean, I guess the thing that
I just always stress is like the biggest thing I learned,
because I mean, we all have a never again story, right,
it was was you know, you know the couch and
you know the gas and I been there too, like
having to heat up you know, water in the in
the morning, to take a wash up before school and

(30:06):
having the oven all that shit.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
But the thing is, and now, when you when you
grow up poor, you think like, okay, man, when I
make money, then I'll be straight. All I need is money, money, money,
And then you get the money, and you still realize
that you got to work on you. And so you know,
a lot of times I think that it the one
thing that gets missed is like that. The conversation you
don't hear is like, yeah, you can make money, and

(30:31):
it's great to have money, and it's fantastic, and I'm
thankful for the money that I make.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
But your money can't save you from yourself, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 9 (30:39):
And well, I'm about to say, you know what, those
conversations are hurt a lot, especially in around with black folks,
because we just getting to the money.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
We're just getting getting the money.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Part, and we see more money, more problems. Because we
just said it was a song.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
It was like, let me get there first, all right,
So Steve, what's what's your number?

Speaker 11 (31:02):
How much I've changed?

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
One to two?

Speaker 11 (31:05):
Well, the haircut gets me to a five right off.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
The back for real, big facts only up from.

Speaker 11 (31:11):
There, I don't, you know beyond in all seriousness, I
don't it's.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay to not have a life changing experiment. Some people
still live their lives the same way every day.

Speaker 10 (31:22):
I mean, I changed not much, but from the deaths
I'm in I'm in New York City, and that whole
early period was rough. The whole seven o'clock people going
to their windows and balconies, that was all.

Speaker 11 (31:40):
That was all very so i'll say, I'll say seven.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Oh.

Speaker 10 (31:45):
Also, this is this change too, Like this wrinkle here
is moving to the right over here, see it making
it right.

Speaker 11 (31:56):
That's a funny, funny thing out there.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Interesting, it's moving moving across.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
This this these two here, which I call the eleven,
we all kind of get. Then this one kind of
kind of making a right turn over here. I think
that's new from this year downhill.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
All right, sirman, what's your number?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
I guess I say a six or seven. I turned
forty this year, I think for the first time, like
I've been running my whole life.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Maybe what a life?

Speaker 2 (32:26):
William?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Wait, I'm ten years older than you.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, but I don't have red lights in my room.
But I'm Phillip's Hugh.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
You know, Phillips Hugh.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Anybody can do it.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
I turned forty, and I stopped because I've been running
so long. It was nice to like stop and look
around and like, I don't know, focus on ship that
wasn't working and hustling and da da da da, and
it was just nice to just take a break for
a minute. Like I've been spending a lot of time
just about me, which I never do like it's just working, working,
work and working, and now it's just like not and
it kind of feels good about that. I had to

(33:03):
like regroup reading, stop drinking at eleven, like ready to.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Go fucking math home. Okay, I'm childless. Can you explain
to me what is what is that daily? What's the
daily grind of a homeschool parent, especially one in New York?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Up seven thirty, breakfast closed, eight am? First zoom call
uh at eight thirty to like two. The kids are
on zoom.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Your school zooms you first, or you zoom the school.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
The kids zoom the school.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Okay, Uh.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
They work, They break for an hour for lunch, but
at at different times, Like the devil has lunch at
eleven and the other one has lunch at like one,
So it's like a.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Whole Jason, he has two daughters, and one's the devil
and one's not the devil.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's you gotta stop, you gotta.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Two.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
You have a six and a half year old boy,
Otis and a little girl, Daisy four.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Are they totally different?

Speaker 6 (34:02):
They are pretty different?

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (34:03):
Like Daisy is like a puppy, and notice is like
a cat, you know, like she jumps, right, she jumps
right in a pool. You know, he'll take twenty minutes
to get in like me.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
You know, it's not just me.

Speaker 8 (34:15):
Uh and then like the devil, the devil, she will
be knowing how her mom was as a teenager.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
We can already we see that coming. Yeah, it's clear.
It's in her essence.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Two thirty three, school and homework, hangout, dinner, tower, bed,
that's the day.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, and it goes that way perfectly without any like no, but.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
That's just what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah, that's that's Yeah. Those are those are chords and
you solo around those.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, it's like there and see and we're playing in
like D minor get close, but it's not like real close.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
But does that allow you to do? Because I mean
you also work at Sesame Street full time? I do,
But like, how do you balance both? Full time is
a relative term.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
It's all very you know, metaphoric and artist workship.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
So.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Essence, so you're basically running a lot of reruns right now. Okay,
I get it.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I get it. There's a lot going on, just trying
to you know, keep my head above the cloud.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
I see, all right. I give myself a six as well.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I give you one hundred and four, like like in
every way for the past year.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
What Yeah, man, there's there's still other lessons. There's like
Captain obvious lessons that I'm learning in front of the
world in real time. And then there's still some ship
that I'm stubbornly dealing with, you know, like when good
things happen, a way to fuck it up and I
gotta stopped doing that.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
So we were wind to our hearing review from last year.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Was nothing.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
No, it was not like that, And the fact that
I can't remember that lets you know it's different.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
You were not just like zen man you are now
last year.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, dog, we were just friends back then.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
You have like the Grace plus twelve, Like if you're
a six that means an eighteen because Grace had I.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Feel like a sixth. No, Grace is like a ninety seven.
He gets up at five am already jumping on the
trampoline like her. I'm not doing the trampoline. Dog.

Speaker 8 (36:40):
It sounds me like everybody feels you've earned your rick
rubn maritpadge.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
So yeah, on the way there, on the way there.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Something.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, I'm on the way on the way there, Okay.
So real quick, kind of rapidly. When did you realistically think, quote,
this would be over. I thought this will finally be
over October, Halloween will be back to normal. YadA, YadA, YadA.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
When did you think that? Did you think that in March?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I thought that in April? Oh hell yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
No, I my on my card, I was already looking
at twenty twenty two like that was my thing because.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
The thing was because man, because the thing was just
a bunch of conspiracy theory. No, I mean because the
thing was.

Speaker 7 (37:33):
I guess, you know, because when we did our last shows,
it was like March of this year. We did Philly
and Baltimore. Those are the last two Little Brother shows
we did. And we were even a little skittish about
doing those, you know what I'm saying, because it was
when it was kind of starting but not really.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
But we was like, I think we can pull these off.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
We had our sanitize and everything, so you know, we
checking the hotel, we wipe stuff down and it was
cool and you're doing and everything. Yeah, we was doing
that in March and so then when we got we
finished that, they called, well they didn't call, but that's
when they announced that South By Southwest was canceled. And
when they canceled south By Southwest, I said, b if

(38:10):
they canceled, I said, nigga. If they canceled south By Southwest,
Coachella is next. And if Coachella gets canceled, twenty twenty
is a fucking rap.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Dog it's over.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
You said that, and then yeah, like yo, it's a rap.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
And then the fucking NBA ain't like Nigga, a billion
dollar business and they just gonna stop that shit just
a rap because it's it's deuce so so for so,
I in my mind I was thinking of that, and
then I just thought, well, okay, if this is all
a twenty twenty, twenty twenty is gonna.

Speaker 7 (38:40):
Be the year of like preparation, like you know, it's
just kind of the what the fuck year is what happened?
Then twenty twenty one will be the year where we
kind of start to you know, re emerge and you know,
and then twenty twenty two is finally when you know, things.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I don't think will be normal, but there will be
yeah maybe.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Man.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
Even then with that, for me, the mask ain't going
nowhere like we I'm about to be Michael.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Johnson with my ship, no vaccine whatever.

Speaker 7 (39:10):
Yeah, it's like and that's what I think, just for me,
this year was just a lesson in whatever. And we
talked about this on on Jills podcast, Like you're like, whatever,
lessons that you learned in twenty twenty, these are the
lessons and the and the practices that you're gonna need
to carry you out for the rest of your life,
you know what I mean, Like this is this just.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Ain't no shit. Oh twenty twenties over and were back.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
Nah, if you get back out in the world trying
to do the same ship that you was doing before, Rona,
You're gonna be fucked up.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Uh, yes, right, you're right.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
Mine kept sliding.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
I just mind mine.

Speaker 8 (39:45):
Mine just kept sliding with like I thought it was
gonna be a few weeks and then. But I mean
every single benchmark that you just spoke about I agreed
with in clock and I was just like, oh, and
I just should have.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Just kept going with it.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
But I but I you know, that was also like
the day after Trump, you know, got elected, I was like, Oh,
he's going to get that Manila folder and he's going
to rise to the occasion. Like I'm an internal optimist.
You know, I literally did I remember it was it
was I know. I mean, like so like when I.

Speaker 6 (40:13):
Saw like, you know Chappelle, do you know right after
the election, I was kind of I was like, I'm
feeling that. And then once the the you know, and
then it was good. Like a day later, I was like,
oh wait, no, who am I kidding? But just a
little glims of hope.

Speaker 8 (40:26):
I just thought he was gonna you know, I just
assumed they give you a manilla envelope that you read
about who killed Kennedy, you know, who made.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
Track, you know, like, and it's just like and you're
like and you're like, oh my god.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
And then you're like, okay, this is humbling. I understand now, yeah,
exactly fifty one like wherever.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Jason, but he has the voter. That's the scary part.
He got the voter.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
Yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
And then he gave it away. But so so I
thought this, I thought every I thought, you know, I thought.

Speaker 8 (40:57):
Every you know, a couple of months and then yeah,
somewhere around the mid mid uh yeah, it was probably
around the NBA for that same reason, It's like, oh,
this is a this is this is bad, like if
they're going to shut this down.

Speaker 7 (41:11):
Yeah, man, it was like it was like a whiplash effect,
Like like me and my cousin we talked about it,
and she had like the most beautiful analogy for it
for COVID. She was like, you know, years ago, her
and her husband they lost they had they had a
kid and they lost a kid.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Her excellent.

Speaker 7 (41:27):
And she said in therapy, a therapist told her that
the reason why a lot of couples don't make it
after they lose a kid is because their grief never
sinks up. So like one person will be in bargaining,
one person will be in you know, acceptance, one person
being anger you know what I'm saying. Whatever, And and
it's like it was like the same thing with cod

(41:48):
because it's like, yo, it's because everyone is at a
different point of understanding where they are, where we are,
and a.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
Different acceptance something.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:57):
Man, that's that's that's very heavy. That makes a lot
of sense.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, Steve, when when did you think this was over? Initially?

Speaker 10 (42:07):
I mean, I can't remember what I was thinking, but
I definitely thought it was going to go on for
a long long time.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I mean, I'm I'm.

Speaker 10 (42:20):
Really surprised, how how quickly that we may be able
to come out of it, even if it is by
you know.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Next summer.

Speaker 11 (42:28):
I think that's that's pretty incredible.

Speaker 12 (42:31):
If that happens, you you ain't gon you ain't gonna
take the vaccine.

Speaker 9 (42:41):
Oh no, no, he's up in there. I think a
mirror has an order. No, don't ask me that question.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
And COVID are you.

Speaker 9 (42:55):
I got an official answer? I got ah.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Here's the thing, man, Bill, this will A lot of
my white friends aren't really getting Black people are so
untrusting a vaccination.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
And listen, and let me say this.

Speaker 9 (43:11):
I had to explain it to a girlfriend who's a
doctor and works at the FDA, who's been in the
struggle and is black, and still like, what the fuck
is wrong with y'all?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
You didn't know who Henrietta lacks was?

Speaker 9 (43:20):
She knows all that is just Her point is is
that they've been putting in the work. And she's like,
I don't believe that. You know, some black folks still
think like this. And I'm like, a lot of black
folks still do, Henrietta.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Because it's not like this was a long time ago.
It's not like we're talking about you know, ye like
this ship. Yeah, from the Tuskegee experiment to what happened
to Henrietta lax Uh, the initial ringworm experience experiments that
they did on black people beforehand.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
To the disease that they still ain't found cures for Matt.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, just in general black there's a deep distrust. Like
I'll put it this way, Bill, and I'm as middle
class slash one whatever it comes without being Carlton. No,
I will say that before my cushy NBC insurance included job.

(44:18):
And this is not to say I didn't have insurance
in the roots, there was a thirty year gap before
I finally went to the dentist. So I went to
the dentist in two thousand and nine to get.

Speaker 9 (44:30):
More black people like black wait, oh, no, black men
and doctors.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
This is deep. We're about to do.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
That, dude.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
My last my last time was at a at a
uh what do you call it, like a student a
dental school when you're third nineteen seventy nine, Like Chris Rock,
isn't joking that you have to be way past robotesting
for you know, even with with like I used to

(45:02):
when Steve knows like zero will get the sniffles. My now,
managers U zero be like get the sniffles and be
like I'm gonna check, go see the doctor. I'm like, wait,
you go to the doctors because you you might have
a cold like that happens like uh ah, man, it
took me thirty years imagine April of nineteen seventy nine

(45:25):
to win of my teeth about it all out. Like
May of two thousand and nine, I finally went to
the dentist finally like there's just a deep distrust that
we've had. And yes, I believe in science now, yes
I do. I personally feel as though there is a
conspiracy how to get us, and no I don't believe it.

(45:47):
But it's going to be a hard time. Covin, It's
gonna be more than Barack Obama getting getting it himself.

Speaker 9 (45:54):
No, he to go down to the clinic and he
got to stand next to Auntie whoever.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
And I need to say, today's getting.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
The same.

Speaker 11 (46:01):
Right, A very simple question.

Speaker 10 (46:03):
Please don't you all just go to black doctors.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Oh it's blacks, but it's still white medicine.

Speaker 9 (46:18):
Thank you made that so simple, Thank you, thank you
black doctors.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
But it's still we have black doctors, but it's still
white medicine too. For the record, for the record, for
the record, the the the woman who's the uh the woman,
what's the company that Dolly Parton gave a million dollars?
Maderna not but Maderna is. It's it's an African American

(46:47):
woman who is helming the the lead into.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
The It's a lot of African you know, Biden, we
were in there were in it.

Speaker 9 (46:56):
It's that's not that. That's not the point though, Steve,
I'm sorry. It really is well on the kind of
what what Fante said and then and what a Mire
said about the history.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
I'm not saying them one distrusting, but I will just say,
like I want to see what happens maybe the first
two months exactly.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
It's like we I'm for me. I'm gonna take it.
I'm just not gonna be in that first round.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yeah, I would take it.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Like it's like, sederation, you don't get the first Apple,
you never exact first phone.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
You never get the first laptop, you never get the
first iPod never ever, ever ever, you.

Speaker 7 (47:24):
Never do the first update on your phone, never get
the first update. The big sir, don't do that. Bet'll
wait till they.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Get yourself biged sir, what the fuck doesn't work?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Now?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
We get it?

Speaker 6 (47:34):
Now, we get it.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Now, we get it. Yeah, I get it. Now we
get it.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
We were we were on the not knowing angle. Now
we get it.

Speaker 9 (47:43):
But can I just tell you that I am happy
that twenty twenty is the year that America is finally
getting to know black people.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
And I am excited about that.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Hey, it's nice what Yes podcast for five years and
I know shit about black people.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
And that's said a lot.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
I've been given a number of lessons and I still
don't know. I don't know if that's about you guys
are me?

Speaker 9 (48:09):
But either way, yeah, you need to go to strong
black leaders. Are they on Netflix?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
That's why they got Okay, okay, so next question, Okay,
what room in your house became your refuge?

Speaker 3 (48:31):
This one?

Speaker 1 (48:33):
This one you're in your studio right now on pey Bill.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yes, and we also deliver baby boys in this room
because of the colors.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Color.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
That's that's very nicery.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
First choice, first choice.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Good you love You're in a bunker right now, Jason.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
Yeah, it's it's like the the you know, we live
in Brooklyn, but we'veout here the whole time because of this,
and so like this this became our communal office.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
But then when I was editing.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
I let Live take this so she could do pre
production for her movie that she's shooting now. And then
then I went to like a real like a like
I just found a this post production house that even
darker than this, exactly like a k with like wood
panley behind it, and I would just sit at a
screen and edit remotely and then.

Speaker 6 (49:17):
Get in the car and I was like, you know,
nine to five, you know.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
Almost wearing a mask and sanitizing only a few people
in that office. Then here that you know, that's a
TV there, and then you know, early and early, like
probably like April, I was playing like I went through
and finally played Grant Dauto five just to drive around LA.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
Just to be like, hey, it's nice to be outside.
And then I mean that game was incredible seven years
old and it's still like incredible.

Speaker 8 (49:42):
And then and then me and guys from the show,
like writers and cast members of the show who started
playing FIFA and we created an AFC Richmond team on
pro clubs and then would just be here a little
head right next to me jott and down ideas and
lines and it became you know, a sanctuary otis and
I played, you know, the Spider Man game up in here.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
You know, it was like what you.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Want you on PS five? You Xbox? Which one?

Speaker 4 (50:07):
We Xbox?

Speaker 8 (50:08):
We have PS four but I haven't got p S
five yet. Yeah, but but but that, but that Spider
Man game was incredible and we can't wait for this
new miles for as one. So but yeah, we just
chipped away at things and just like playing, like you know,
it became it became a place to hang out. Right
before I when I was hitting that thirty pounds, I
was drinking like three micheladas on Saturday. We started writing

(50:31):
now to do it three buffet songs, you know, feeling
fine after numbers.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
I'm sure the lyrics so that those tunes are in
this notebook. But yeah, this, this is it. It's just
like a little office right right off the Yeah, all.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Right, Steve, what was your what was your room of
refuge room? Oh well I.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Only have one room anymore.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yeah, walk right into that.

Speaker 9 (51:04):
I was just no, I got one room too, And
then I guess I said my man's bedroom because that's
my room or refuge.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Uh, Frantico, I feel like this this this couch area
is I don't know what this.

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Is from your house, Fante. So I just I'm in
my living room. This is just like a corner. I mean,
because we had to kind of, you know, rearrange some ship.
So we ended up having to put my son's desk
for his uh for his schooling, so we had to
buy him a new desk and and then put it
over by the window. And then I'm kind of just
in the corner on the other side, just in my

(51:49):
little corner. But my place of refuge is actually it
kind of became my deck. Man, Like I would just
you never.

Speaker 9 (51:54):
Shown us anything but the switch, Fante. You know we
did quest to Prame Live.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
We've been doing here.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
You do a video in Yesna that that was that
was my buddy's house. That wasn't my house. That was
at my house. That was my buddy's house.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
He's never shown us anything but the switch.

Speaker 7 (52:12):
I would show you. I will give you the the
tour of my house. Right yeah, yeah, she's always because
I'm right next to the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
I'm right next to the kitchen. But yeah, it was
the deck.

Speaker 7 (52:22):
It kind of became my spot man because you know,
we couldn't really go anywhere, and you know, during the
winter when the weather was good, I was just grill.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
You know. That kind of became something my therapy.

Speaker 7 (52:32):
I would just cook, and uh, I give food to
my friends, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I,
you know, do ribs or whatever, and I give.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Damn a slab away, you know. And but but I
just cook.

Speaker 7 (52:43):
And so I'll just be out and just you know,
just on deck, you know, smoke me a little something,
just you know, just enjoying the air.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
And that kind of became my place.

Speaker 9 (52:52):
Okay, Oh the dispensary a place of the dispensary was
a place of refuse.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Some of us New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Okay. So in terms of panic purchasing, which I'm sure
we did a lot of between March and maybe kind
of cooled out in July once we realized that world
wasn't going to come to an end. What was the
item that you panic purchased obsessively?

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Got to get the right one, got to get the
right one.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
I had about a little laptop stand, like you know, yeah,
the little mic.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
I bought my garage.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
There there you go.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Really, really really I bought.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
A bar off Etsy for my garage because I needed
a place to hang out. So my graage is now
fully fledged bar. I know this podcasts maybe look like an.

Speaker 8 (54:04):
Alcoholic this is well no, mostly your content, not the
not the podcast.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
This Christmas of this year, Inde, you.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Just got to, you know, go after the good.

Speaker 9 (54:19):
You a large can you talk about that?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Because I bought a bar from this guy in Florida
who clearly only makes bars for people in Florida, and
I said, hey, will you ship it up to New York?
And he said, oh man, that's gonna cost a lot
of money. This is all Etsy, right, And I was like,
oh really how much? And he was like two hundred
dollars And I was like, okay, cool, We're good.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Two hundred dollars and then like bring it up in
one hunch piece and they placed it in my garage
and it's on wheels.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I can wheel my bar places.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
It's all that's a good bar that will last, pro
that will last post COVID yeah like that's one year.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, yeah, where did you see this bar? To make
you be like I need this?

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I typed in bars for your garage. I believe, are you.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
Not?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
From That's how that's how people started lying.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
I think that's actually what I typed.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
I think some people start what.

Speaker 9 (55:15):
Some people started, you know in the summertime, because people
didn't realize they didn't have pools that they were stuck
in COVID. Remember everybody was taking the bins, the color
binds and they were making their own pool.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, I remember. No, I'll deal
with showing me that I want.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
I'm sorry, I don't know what that had.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Good segue.

Speaker 8 (55:32):
Yeah, anyway, I didn't do any I didn't I didn't
do any.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
Uh like toilet paper or any of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
I think I was.

Speaker 8 (55:40):
I don't think I got caught that wave like we
didn't as a house. Oh you know, we we got lived,
did get us, you know, like earthquake. You know, a
couple of survival kids like Judy Kicks and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
I think Judy, I don't know, I just know it
says the word Judy on the side.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
I don't know me.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
I think in l A, yes, yes, yeah, that you're
out here.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 8 (56:04):
Actually it's let me let me let me look it
up here. But I think it is pretty sure it's Judy,
is it like j E.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
W D?

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Why no, good old fashioned wow, thank you, Hey, thank
you Olivia.

Speaker 8 (56:22):
I would I would, you know, I just have a
bunch of double A batteries like that's gonna do ship,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (56:28):
Do you know any celebrities that have bunkers like those
really fancy bunkers I've seen now you know, when it's happened.
I looked up like the hangars that you can buy.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
They're like, I'm just curious about Would you tell me if.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
You did, I would.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
I would tell you if I knew, if I knew,
if I knew, but I don't know, ain't got no, no.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
He's good.

Speaker 8 (56:48):
They got a hell of a treehouse, though, I believe
you know, I think if memory serves, I haven't been
to his place, but I remember him really loving like
that treehouse like reality show and him him being like,
you know, won that for his daughters, which.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
I'm super envious of, and I mean, like a child.

Speaker 8 (57:06):
We never we never had a tree my dad. My
dad grew up in the South side of Chicago, like
on a high rise. So because he barely knows how
to change the light bulb. He's a great dad, but
he always had a super you know someone you know,
he Schneider always came down and fixed.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
A lot of Snyder reference like my dad. I love
that you didn't say Bookman, but you said Snyder.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
I could have.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Ra and rerun.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
I could have gone. I could have gone. But it's
not my default guy though.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
No, but I'm you know, but one day at a time.
I know.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
Yeah, yeah, the best but I I yeah, the g
invest and all that. So yeah, so yeah, I think
your baby's got a treeouts.

Speaker 8 (57:49):
I don't know if it's if it's ready to you know,
for nuclear fallout right now, like panic doors and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Me and Dave Chapelle got one.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
He got one. Not really okay, how not really it's
not it's not underground. I mean, I mean, but he
has acres, so you know. But it is like he
just turned that town into one science believing blue town,
you know what I mean, Like where the cops wear

(58:21):
masks and how can we help you st like that
sort of thing.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
Like Lawrence, Kansas. It's like the one Douglas County is like.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
The one blue county in Kansas, you know, like where
the University of Kansas.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
Is like the bottleneck in the Granada if you go.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
That's why I always played Lawrence, Kansas, y Yeah.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
I mean Kansas City, Kansas City. But yeah, that was
like that was the that was the joint you look.

Speaker 8 (58:43):
I mean, I mean this year, you know, last couple
of years, maybe you know the Kansasity, Kansas side like
Whydot County will have will be blue. But but but
as far as like internal Kansas not not only like
the you know, the biggest city that's Douglas County.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
That's because we would always there would there was we
would always start a tour, like a major tour like
with Beck or the Fuji's whoever. We start in Lawrence, Kansas.
It was like a like a theater. It was sort
of like a movie. Or it used to be.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think I saw you guys there.

Speaker 8 (59:20):
You've been to something, Oh yeah, Granada the bottle Neck
Yeah no, I mean that was that's where you would
see folks like when they maybe had you know, one
radio hit on like the yeah yeah, like I saw
like Cake there, like Ben Folds five, like the first
like when they're still when Ben was still lugging around.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
A panele in a U haul you know it's like, yeah,
that's where you go to the bottle neck.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Oh right, damn yeah that's my spot. All right, what
did you what did you purchase? Panic purchase?

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Laya?

Speaker 9 (59:49):
Oh no, I really met the ring like you know,
I gotta tell you, okay, and not for nothing. I'm
still getting fighting through my broke mind. My boyfriend keep
reminding me that. He's like, you got three Johns now,
so you can actually buy things? Because yeah, I said,
I'm just it's hard, it's hard, it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Okay, wait, okay, huh by a mayor.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I brought a ranch.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Fifty one like you live in white people will like
you protected by white folk.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Yeah. Man, I was like, uh, this is never happening again.
See there you go, certainty, never again, never again. I purchased.
I purchased a bunker so that this will never happen again.

Speaker 6 (01:00:36):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Wait, so real quick, what's the maximum amount of people
that you were quarantining with?

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Like?

Speaker 11 (01:00:41):
Wait, I didn't the question.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
You gotta jump in when you get him. What did
you panic by?

Speaker 11 (01:00:48):
I couldn't be by anything. You need to pay me more.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Waiting to use that punchline. Yeah, I didn't pan. I
didn't pan buy anything. I panic gave.

Speaker 7 (01:01:00):
I think, I like, I just donated a bunch of money,
like the different organizations, Like I gave money to my.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
School and ship. It was just I was just thinking.
I was like, yo, I was no, I wasn't, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:01:11):
It was just I was thinking because I mean I
kind of knew how we lived, and I was like,
all right, I think, you know, we'll be cool, but
I know some people that ain't gonna be.

Speaker 8 (01:01:19):
That's that was the cool thing that Olivia had the
foresight to do, buying gift cards from the restaurants that
we went to in the area.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
A lot, knowing that they were shut down, but buying like.

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
A thousand dollars gift cards, like like just literally going here,
just like here's some money, just like yeah, I mean
you know, like because.

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
Because given money for the restaurant.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
Yeah, yeah, here's the money up front, and we'll catch
you on on on you know, on the flip flop.
But also then they did honor them, you know when
when they started delivering meals and stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
But that you know, helping small businesses in that regard,
that's what's.

Speaker 9 (01:01:52):
Up and they remember when they started seeing it was
like ship they already paid.

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
Speaking speaking of food, what kind of Derekcats tip with
a gift card?

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Right by something for yourself?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
By something? Okay, so what what new item or food
was your friend in twenty twenty.

Speaker 7 (01:02:18):
Man the the undisputed heavyweight champion of the Coleman Household
of the twenty twenty pandemic.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
It's the motherfucking air frar.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
Let's say, really, bruh, the air fry hit is man,
it gets it all. It damned It pretty much replaced
out Michael Wave like. It just everything. I mean, it'll
hit stuff, bro. The air fry is a game changing
man Like, I mean, it's basically just in. It's just
just a fucking easy, big oven for adults.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
But I'm about to say style change was so much.
But yeah it does.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Yeah, but you can yet, yeah deep fry without you know,
without all you know what I'm saying. But it just
gets yourself chrispy.

Speaker 7 (01:02:57):
Like if you order you know, fries from somewhere with
her and you got something left over, you want to
heat him up their work.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
But but yeah, we use it for everything. My son
he used it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
He'll make his breakfast in the morning for school. Uh
for you know, for you jump on his laptop and
uh yeah they're fry.

Speaker 9 (01:03:11):
It saved us for real, y'all have have y'all had
Jenny's ice cream?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Who is this bitch?

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Who is ice cream?

Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
She's a wizard, she's a witch. Is that the one
with the salt with like the salted peanut butter, with
the chocolate flex Do they do that there?

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:03:31):
They do, Yes, they do they and they make the
really thick waffle cones where you walking there and they.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Just they delivered.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
So is this so? Is this a store? This is
a spot? Is splendid ice creams?

Speaker 9 (01:03:44):
It is all across the country, but here in La
they delivered during the COVID times.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
And that was my answer because.

Speaker 9 (01:03:52):
Who the salted caramel, the almond butter brickle? They have
one ice cream with uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
A kettle corn.

Speaker 9 (01:04:00):
It's just it's a lot and it's really good. And
I'm an ice cream fishing I am, I am.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
I am.

Speaker 8 (01:04:07):
What I missed from I miss from our neighborhood Brooklyn
is Ample Hills.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Ample Hills ice cream.

Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
They crack ice cream is like crack ice cream and
can you only get it from New York. I think
they have I think they have it out here too,
but but they do. But you know you have that
that uh you know what was another thing we used.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
That gold gold gold belling, gold gold bell.

Speaker 8 (01:04:30):
We hit that place up, you know a few times,
like New York, New York meals like you know, getting
russ and daughters, you know, sent out here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I did that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Yeah, heah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Let me let me shout out Halo Top ice cream
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
For the grocery store run.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
That's grocery top. Yeah, it's you know, I can partake
in stuff that's under fifteen carbs and so Halo Top
is definitely yo. You know what greatance you heard?

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Ice cream?

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
No, why are you looking at me like what kind
of black person? Is not?

Speaker 9 (01:05:06):
Like it makes us all fart and I don't know
why we lie about it like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
On some ice cream a mirror and let me talk
to Grace the next morning.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
I'm serious, dog, I'm cool with it. Another for those
that are looking ways to cheat the system as far
as like getting your sweets on without having to partake
in the carbs. One thing I discovered this year cool
Whip Cool Cool Whip is almond milk. No, just it's

(01:05:39):
it's it's loading carbs, load and sugar. You put it
in in the freezer and like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
You're talking like you just invented cool Whip. Cool around
one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
I know, but it's cheating, but not like listen, I mean,
it's some heroin. It's a way for me to have
some heroin without getting hot.

Speaker 6 (01:05:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:06:00):
Oh God, you need near beers, your old dudes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
It's your old dudes.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
That's near beer.

Speaker 9 (01:06:09):
You need to take their cholesterol content because that should
be greasy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
There's sugar free cool like.

Speaker 9 (01:06:15):
I said, cholestero. Alright, all right, go ahead do your thing, Brad.
I'm just saying that they also make.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
An almond milk.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Something's working, right, I'm just saying, anyway, shout out the
halo happened cool anyway, Yeah cool Whip. Also shout out
to Lynn's lifestyle. She's the lady who has invented miracle

(01:06:47):
carb cool items like corn bread and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
And her early on in the year yeah life.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Yeah, definitely her corn bread. Definitely, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Somebody else's corn bread.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Well, I mean, look, it's not corn bread in the
life sense of the term. Of corn bread. But you know,
for someone that's abstaining.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Bread, plaining what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Yeah, A big part of my life is also abstaining
from bread and other white foods like rice and potatoes
and all those things. So don you do sweet potato?
Can you do sweepstato? I could do occasional sweep atalte.
Matter of fact, when I hang up, I have some
sweet potato tonight. So basically she had a is it
siliac I forget something like yeah? Yeah. So she had

(01:07:40):
like if she looks at nuts or seeds or anything,
she'll break out. Like that's how bad this woman's allergies was.
And her husband was like, I hate seeing you're miserable
like this, Like, you know, figure out how to make
what you like out of seeds, like purred the seeds

(01:08:01):
and all this things. So she would take seeds and
start making bread and muffins. And her name is It's
Lynn's Life, like she makes it in her crib. It's
a very small business.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
But commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Yeah, she's gonna love this commercial. How many what's the maximum?
What's the maximum amount of people have that have been
quarantining with you? Just three for me?

Speaker 11 (01:08:26):
Well, question about what food I was eating.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Come on in, Actually, I do want to hear it,
because what are you doing now that Starbucks isn't as
it used to be?

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Starbucks?

Speaker 11 (01:08:45):
Starbucks is, they're pretty open everywhere from.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
The beginning they weren't, So how are you coping without
star Wars.

Speaker 10 (01:08:55):
Told the story back back when it started.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
I bought, uh, the type you make.

Speaker 10 (01:09:02):
At home, you know, with the what's it called instant
instant coffee where you just stirred into hot water. But
the crazy part was I accidentally bought the caffeinated and
I was drinking de caffeinated coffee for like four months
without realizing, and I had gotten off caffeine.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Wow, Starbucks opened up?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
And were you having headaches?

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:09:29):
No, because I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
By myself.

Speaker 10 (01:09:35):
But in answering your original question, I went back and
pretty much tried every single type of breakfast cereal that
exists over the However, many months were quarantine. Damn.

Speaker 11 (01:09:48):
I wanted to figure out bad for your sugars. Some
of them are very bad, yes, but some.

Speaker 9 (01:09:54):
Of them finish his sentence. Go ahead, stee, if you
wanted to figure.

Speaker 10 (01:09:58):
Out I want to figure out which was the greatest
breakfast cereal of all time by revisiting all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Okay, all right, I'm here for this.

Speaker 10 (01:10:08):
And and there were clearly a lot of possible winners.

Speaker 11 (01:10:13):
But at the end of the day, was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
You say what you say frost and Flake Steve Frosted, Yeah, Minish.

Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
Square, the little guys.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Yeah, no way man, because it was it was the
perfect balance of sweet and you know an adult.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Yeah, you can't eat you can't eat it without milk.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
That's your next book.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Yeah. Sorry, So Fronte said three. What's the maximum amount
of people you quarantined with? Three? Including myself? Just me
and my wife, my son. It's just three of us,
that's it.

Speaker 9 (01:10:55):
Okay, like quarantine and mean spend time or you just
came through Okay, No, that's true. Actually, not come through quarantine.
I've quarantined, uh two, Because remember I was, I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Was calling you out on social media.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
The thing is, I think one is hard to I
think it's hard to quarantine alone. I think it's hard
to quarantine with two. I think three is the perfect number.
What about your throw a person? Huh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I said, what about your fifteen at the ranch? The part?

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Yeah, but I was also on acres in a farm.
But Grace and I were in the house. I mean,
of course, if I'm DJing, yeah, motherfucker is gonna come up.
But yeah, you know, look, just let everyone at ease.
Steve and I regularly get tested. Yeah, so we've been
pretty much with our negativity.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Not the rapid test though, because you can't trust those.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Sorry. Yeah, both, okay, well I get both. You know,
I do combinations of both. I'm paid. What was your
maximum number?

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Me and my girlfriend and her kids or me my
ex wife and my kids four.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
So combo of four to three. That's hot. Wow, based
on that smile, I'll just skip to the less we build,
the better.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Numbers. Their numbers. Numbers ain't nothing but the number.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
Pot well said Jason.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Just write that down next to you know whatever Jazzy
Jeff said, then whatever I said. Numbers are numbers.

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
The numbers are numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Deep deep ship, go ahead, mirror, you have thirty people
at your Karen ranch.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
No, in the beginning when I went to the farm, yeah,
it was me, Grace heard two kids.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
You ain't got to do the roll be here.

Speaker 9 (01:12:52):
You were doing roll calls because a lot of people
you ain't got to do them all their names, shout
them out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
No, Look, we were in Grace and Grace meet Grace
sending her two kids started off in our guest house,
and we were socially distanced and all that stuff with
the other people. I mean, we were on a farm
with a total of at its minimum seven people at

(01:13:17):
its maximum sometimes eleven or how old are Grace's kids are?
They're adults. Leaf is, Leaf is twenty, she's twenty five,
twenty six and riding. He's black. Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
He's like, oh, yeah, they're beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
They both like some beautiful twenty three.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
What's that? Like? We never talked about this ever.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
They're cool, but they're not like her kids, Like they're
fellow adults, you know what I mean. Like they're Leif
is probably the most resourceful human being I know. Like
if you go to Instagram, she'll love this. Shout out.
If you go to Leaf's Instagram, her name is Leif
l e a f Like she does all of her

(01:14:09):
She shot her own ads that are hanging in uh,
Like she models a lot for like a lot of
these companies that are on are in Times Square right now,
so like she'll shoot her own Time Square ads for
the companies that she's modeling for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
She generations, the resourceful generation.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah, she makes like she has her own like garage
shale like on on the like I sound like an
old person trying to describe this, but she just managed to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Sorry, Well, like she's just the most resourceful human I know.
Like if you tell her, like I need twenty thousand
dollars right now, she instantly knows like how to organize
and come up with it. So and it's just her
just Laf on Instagram? Is that is that Leaf? Okay,
I'm looking at an artist as well her. They're both

(01:15:04):
Leaf and Ryding's father. He invented like the idea of
the street team, like the first time you saw the idea,
the idea of like Puffy having these like uh protest signs,
the advertising bad boy and like stickers that you see
like all over the place of these rap artists or
wrap around vans, like he the s W one is.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
The first street team I think, I think, I.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:15:35):
I think you got to do your research here, But that's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
That is one of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
But I believe them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
It's a family of hustlers riding riding to me writing
right now is I think the hardest part of life,
the hardest transition in life is somewhere between nineteen and
twenty three. So that's where you really have to push
yourself to realize who you are and get into it.
You don't believe in that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Fuck, no, who pushing you? You gotta know you ain't
got to know nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Well, I had a son at twenty one, so I
had to you had nineteen to twenty three. It's a transition.

Speaker 7 (01:16:17):
It is a big transition, it is, But it's usually
it's a transition in a sense because that's when you realize, Like,
at least for me, when I graduated, you know, I
was twenty one graduating oh one, so I was like
twenty one, twenty two. Yeah, Like that's when you get
out and you realize, Okay, whatever I'm doing now, this
has the potential to be my life for the rest

(01:16:38):
of my life. And that's some sobering shit, you know
what I mean. Like I was working at like a
call center and shit, and it's just like, nigga, is
this it? Because it ain't no more school, you know
what I'm saying, It's no more you know, all the
whatever the rights of passage were up until this point.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
We're done. So you can FuG around being this. Yeah,
you fugging up in this car center for the next
time thirty years, you know what I'm saying. I was like, oh, right, well, now.

Speaker 8 (01:17:01):
It's a good to find your bliss, to find the
thing that you're like, oh, I'm going to go after
this regardless, you know that. Just yeah, you follow your bliss,
because that's when I like, after I leaving college. I
played basketball in college for a little bit, just community
college in Kansas.

Speaker 6 (01:17:15):
But when I left, I was like, oh, I love this.
And then I moved to Chicago, and that's when I
officially I'm like, this is me trying to be an actor.

Speaker 8 (01:17:21):
I mean, I'm gonna live in my grandmother's house and
drive my uncle's car, you know, you know, but still
I knew the choices I was making was all that,
and like, you know, nine to five jobs just for gas.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
Because you know, I charge rent luckily.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
And how long was that life for you? How long
was that?

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
I mean, in many ways still it's still going on, like.

Speaker 8 (01:17:43):
You know, like you kind of well, I mean that
that was Oh it wasn't a lesson. L but even
SNL is not a great television contract. I mean, you know,
I love pointing out to people, you know that, like, uh,
just for people to realize. You know what, George Carling
got paid in nineteen seventy five on October eleventh to

(01:18:03):
host SML five grand.

Speaker 13 (01:18:05):
Wow, you know, Tim Shannon, I got paid last week
five grand. Now, I don't know how long I pulled
that off, but it is a thing, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
So you know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
How much just on Sesame Street? Yeah, I mean five bucks?

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
How much?

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
You know Harte they got paid thirty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Wait, Bill, did I get paid for Sesame Street at all?

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Exactly? Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Probably not?

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
I did. Yeah, I did an offshoot. I did the
you know, Elmo up all Night. I mean, you know
that's late night, that's late night money.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
That's three pits that you show.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Yeahs did Elbow's late night talk show. It was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Yeah, it was great. It was great. Yeah, Living and
I both did it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
No, it was it was that was it was awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:18:56):
It was it was a joy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
What what I was saying, like you, was that when
you're when you're crossing that bridge where you're not just
under your you're the tutelage of your mom and dad anymore,
and you got your own person. That's the transition between
nineteen and twenty three. So that part what I see
for her son. I believe in my heart that her son,

(01:19:20):
and this is crazy pressure to put on him. I
feel like him as an artist, like he's he's to me,
like he could be the next Boskiyach And in terms
of like the art community has like the same way
that I had a circle with like Dyla and Dee
and Erica and you know, like the whole Black Lily

(01:19:41):
Collective and all that stuff. He has an art community
that and I almost feel kind of guilty giving my
unsolicited capitalists you know, snake oil salesman advice. Like wait,
if you guys all gathered together, this is this is
a billion dollar art art community. I'll be the person

(01:20:02):
in their community. Like right now, it's just very pure
and very for art sake. So yeah, let them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
William, don't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
You you teach it.

Speaker 8 (01:20:21):
You teach a kid to fuck up, you know, but
if you allow a kid to fuck up, he'll suck
up forever.

Speaker 6 (01:20:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
It's like like that, give a man a fish.

Speaker 6 (01:20:33):
Of a man's fish you know one thing, talk of
a man's river, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
You know that is okay. So I'll go to entertainment.
For those of you that indulged in television. Okay, what's
the TV show that you are ashamed to admit that
you indulged and watched? Like I said, I was going

(01:20:58):
to watch a whole bunch of Criterion collect education movies
and I ain't got time for all they got him learning.
I mean here for that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Uh some titles.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Now, yeah, I was on I was on ninety Day
Fiance pretty heavy, and then I just yeah, I was
on the other way the other way.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Yeah, that's some good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
That is a mess. What's the other way?

Speaker 9 (01:21:27):
The other ways when the amir the other ways when
the American goes to the other country.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
So you got like them going to Ethiopia and all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
So yeah, there's the American version of the Russian male
order bride that I get about in every sitcom one
hundred It is the it bro.

Speaker 7 (01:21:43):
It was this white woman that was gonna marry this
dude from Qatar. Man, listen, like there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Is no punchline. What do you say, like you already
know man? Look, yeah, I know I know what Americans
have been sold about the Russian male Order bride like
you know, and I guess we sort of see the
first lady is that somewhat? But what I'm saying, oh
no not what is how? How how is the Americans

(01:22:11):
sold as a prize to other countries? What do you mean?
I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:22:16):
I think it's just I don't know if they're surprised.
I think it's just I think in the Kutar with
the lady that was going to Katar, I think it
was just they were looking at it. The guy was
looking at it like, well, I can basically use you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
I mean it was I mean, it's all like kind
of a scam.

Speaker 7 (01:22:33):
Really is they all like trying to just use each
other for money or for citizenship or something. But it's
just it's all like dysfunctional and hilarious as hell. But
that's kind of what the sell is.

Speaker 9 (01:22:44):
It's a lot of other franchise that branched off because
you've got the House of Chantel and stuff. Now because
Chantale had married the Dominican do and now they girl
that's real pretty and her whole family is kind of
good looking. For again in their own show. It's a
lot going on. Sorry, I watched a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
TV, so yeah, and my mom watches this so if
I visit, she always has it on. But that's all
I know. The story is always like some greasy looking
guy and you know, yes, like how long does the
do they stay with the storyline until it ends? Or man?

Speaker 7 (01:23:22):
They stay with it like well, I think this year
and I think this is kind of why I got
out of it, because COVID shut a lot of shit down.
So what ended up happening is like they you could
tell they they were stretching the dope too far, you
know what I mean, So like they didn't really have
a whole lot of content, like y'all cut because y'all
coming back, y'all ain't got but not THEMN fifteen minutes

(01:23:44):
twenty minutes worth of THEMN.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Content stretched out over a fucking hour and it just
it was bad. So that's why I got out of it.

Speaker 7 (01:23:50):
But they'll follow people, I mean if they get spin
offs and stuff, and basically the more.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Dysfunctional the better.

Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
Like as all reality shows, the chick Darcy who's has
a twin sister.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
They have a show now called Darcy and Stacey, which
I just have not watched.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
The big duck lips bro you yo. They showed a
commercial like every.

Speaker 9 (01:24:12):
Yeah you watch every Discovery, you'll watch it. Can I
just say one word? And I would just like to
know because people are in the closet about this show.
But I think all of y'all watched this show?

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Was what was it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Cheeters?

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
Cheater?

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Peter Guns is going to be hosting it in twenty twenty.
I thought y'all was all right talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
I remember Cheaters back in like the nineties. Yeah, that's
that's last time I watched it on the week with
Peter Guns New York got Crazy Game. Now never mind.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
I thought we had a tribe and I'm sorry, I.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Thought, wait, has it been on the air?

Speaker 9 (01:24:51):
Yeah, yeah, Peter Peters Peters has it, but old episodes
of Cheaters, because you know, it had different holes in
the last host who was the grandson of Clark Gable.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
You know he he died this year in twenty twenty. Yeah, yeah, Clark.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
He was Clark Joey Greco after.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Joey Greco was Clark Gable's grandson.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Yes, I did not know, no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
I remember Cheaters was like, yeah, when I was essential,
I watched she was she was like.

Speaker 6 (01:25:23):
An ambuss show, like where you would catch people there.

Speaker 9 (01:25:26):
Well, it wasn't necessarily an ambush show. It was a
show where people people came to the host to find
out if their loved one was cheating, and then they
had detectives, and that detective would actually go and and
then yeah, and then you would ambush once they found
out that that okay, all.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Right, yeah, and ambush was ambushmbush, I got it right.

Speaker 9 (01:25:50):
A Mayer said shows were embarrassed about and now I'm
back to being embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
I never mind to.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Handle to watch that, man, I couldn't it. So the
premise of Too Hot to Headle on Netflix is you
put you know, twenty beautiful people on an island and
you're like, if you win, they can't have sex, and
they can't have sex, they can't touch each other, they cake,

(01:26:14):
they can't do anything. If they do, like the money
starts to go down, and so like they all try
to like sneak off fucking and like you know, crazy
under the cover ship and.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
They get caught every time. And there's like a there's
like an announcer robot price to pay, like like if
you fuck, it's twenty grand. If you if you if
you kiss, if you make out someone, it's like five grand.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Like if you hold hands, I was like two hundred
and fifty grand and at the end of down like
five grand, right, like conversation like here's two hundred bucks.

Speaker 6 (01:26:45):
Show up on that show and just like just master
bayle crazy and just leave there, just flush.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Oh you're not to do that either you can't, you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
You can't do that either. No, no, no, you can't
do anything. And then DoD I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Wait, that's the commercial right there for the show to
wait a minute. So the thing is is that Jason,
what they do is they even turn the heat up
more like if if you seem to be master in

(01:27:31):
nice choice of words in here again too much, then
they start important and even hotter. People like you don't
want to that, right, Their and their gold is to
literally bring people on to seduce you.

Speaker 6 (01:27:50):
Yeah, So it's like it's way to lose a game.

Speaker 8 (01:27:53):
It's like going to Russia on business like they're.

Speaker 6 (01:27:57):
Gonna twiddle your mob. They're gonna dial in and the
Calbrays like like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Real mo, it's all fake moves all the time. There's
nothing that show whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
You know another show that like I watched that was
I didn't. I wouldn't say I felt ashamed about it,
but it was I didn't feel good about yeah, saying
I can feel good about myself. Cobra Kai uh nigga
because is great? Yeah, Cobra Kai. Is this old niggas
getting ACKed because I'm here for the niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
It's on my list because Rob Monshall still looks great?

Speaker 8 (01:28:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
And and you know if you know the original, you
know the original?

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Yeah, well we got good.

Speaker 8 (01:28:42):
I mean the way they start that show is so great,
like when it jumps to like that other angle like that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
I was just like, oh, it's like my brain fried
a little bit. I thought I watched it on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Isn't like Wicked where you see from his point of view?

Speaker 6 (01:28:56):
Yes, so basically, yeah, you see.

Speaker 7 (01:28:58):
It from Johnny Lawns from his you know what, he
becomes a man, that Joe is real that it's a
great show.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
I did not expect enjoy as much as I did.
Three Comes Back Anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Can't be good. I can't think of any other ones.
But that's good.

Speaker 6 (01:29:13):
Look, I know everybody liked it, you know, but but
like I mean, I just don't watch too much.

Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
You know, junk Live was watching something early on but
I can't remember, but I usually, you know, wasn't. I
wasn't into it just but Tiger King, you know, like
King was great. But like but also like, why am
I why watching this dude? Like, like, and I'm watching her,
and I'm just.

Speaker 6 (01:29:36):
Like, you know what, that's why am I giving him
this energy?

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
I gave up after the third episode. I couldn't do that.

Speaker 9 (01:29:43):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:29:44):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Then we started singing this jam when Joe, when Joe's
I started dropping records. Man, come on, you're understing. So
does he have a chance with Kim Kardashian arguing on
his behalf.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
No, he's white.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
He's white.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
He's why he's white. But he did say to her,
you know, you don't have to tell anybody that you
helped me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Did he murder this woman?

Speaker 8 (01:30:20):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
No, the big question we don't know if he murdered her.
She's alive, she met her husband.

Speaker 6 (01:30:27):
I think that's right. That's that's a big Well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Wait, what's he in jail for for attempting to Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
Oh okay, so he's definitely guilty of attempted murder.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
Yeah, of an.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Arranging her murder. He didn't even try to do it.
Try to pay somebody, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:30:44):
I see, I see, yeah, Venmo. Somebody didn't murder, you know,
very backwards folks of seventeen hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Carol, which got her on Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
No, yeah, she's on Dancing with the Slaws now she
was she was, yeah, yeah, Pete.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
The best character in that show is Doc whatever his
name is in North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
That guy.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Yeah, like the wives talk about polygamy, like that guy
with the tigers and breeding and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
They ran up. They ran up in they ran up
this ship.

Speaker 6 (01:31:22):
Now, yeah, had a real comeback in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Yow up the next sum Did you watch this ship?
The viol and oh they showed up whatever the vowels.
That was cool.

Speaker 7 (01:31:37):
The one is seduced is seduced on Showtime? That ship
is all smoke. It's only four episodes, like four hours
that Oh my god, I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Just watched the Epstein thing and that's enough for me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
So I was good to watch that.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
That was good.

Speaker 8 (01:31:50):
That that was it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:51):
That was good, But like disturbing more there more there.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
So much.

Speaker 7 (01:31:57):
See, Yeah, Andy, I see your girl. The other day
she posted thirty they're trying to post a thirty million.
I'm like, dude, I'm no legal expert, but she's about
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Anyone that could post thirty billion dollars, you probably shouldn't
let them post bill. I mean, that's probably not the
be idea.

Speaker 6 (01:32:16):
No, that's like, come on, and that's what is that?
A ten percent of her? Like it's thirty million?

Speaker 9 (01:32:24):
Wow?

Speaker 6 (01:32:25):
Three hundred said bond. Bond is like the bail. It's like,
I don't know that's your bond.

Speaker 9 (01:32:39):
Hey, guys, I just did you guys know I just
heard this today and it's going to change life as
we know it forever. Did you know did you hear
about the big porn Hub news? You know I care
about this. Did you hear about what happened to porn
They took content everything? And I didn't know until after
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Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Morning for my thing, you know, with my session.

Speaker 6 (01:32:57):
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Speaker 9 (01:33:00):
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And I'm not even trying to be funny.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
People that have contracts with porn Hub retain there.

Speaker 6 (01:33:12):
It is so.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Sex work, sex work is changing. Actually, I think that's
a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
It is a good thing. I mean, I know it is.

Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
And I'm not sounding part of the artist, power of
the artist, part of the artist.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
But where else will I find my favorite movie sex scene?

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Right up here?

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Yeah, there's there's no here. Not here, There's red Tude,
there's ex videos, there's there's there's more for you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Trust they're coming for everybody.

Speaker 8 (01:33:41):
Their end of the years thing is always fascinating when
they tell you, like who like the most googled you know,
keyword for different states or different kinds, Like, I'm fascinating, fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
I wonder who won this year?

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
They did release a Christmas album?

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
One released a Christmas album.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Yeah, they got a new album out like select like
some people.

Speaker 8 (01:34:05):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
I feel bad that I'm the.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Probably sorry jingle ball right, hip hop and porn like
coming all.

Speaker 6 (01:34:16):
Over the town, you know, Dick the Halls, the classic
I saw Mommy kissing Dad and Santa Claus you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
Know that one.

Speaker 6 (01:34:32):
Just yeah, continued kissing on his dick though, that's what
that's the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
Love, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
I know, Cobra Kai was your Jim this year, so
you got stolen.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
But that's it might have been the best best thing
I saw. Yeah, I guess wow.

Speaker 6 (01:34:55):
Hey hey Bed Steve one of them. You know, we
have a TV show up to my friends, be cooling.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Yeah, that's where I want to come in Guilty Pleasures.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
So now were talking about shows we love like that
are great.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Yes, yes, I'm transitioning, Yes, transition.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
I liked the Crown.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
Yeah is this a good I hear a lot of
people talking about this. Uh, they're all good, Diana, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Yeah, oh yeah, this bench Camilla is gangster.

Speaker 6 (01:35:24):
Go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (01:35:27):
Queen's gambit.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
I love Queen's gambit. I said out of check that
I heard. It's good. I love Queen's gambit. It's it's
it's the white girl version of I can hear Fante
right now saying that this is the what was what
was Fresh? Yeah, it's the white girl version of Fresh?
Oh wow wow, Okay, Yeah, it's it's a chess it's

(01:35:50):
a chess movie, a chess series, but it's rather engaging
in charming.

Speaker 11 (01:35:56):
And I can't nobody's brought it up yet, but watch
that huge grant joint.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Undoing. The undoing is yes still I got a piece?

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, fantastic episode six anything else Steve
corn Hub and.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Before they took the the.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
Content away.

Speaker 10 (01:36:23):
And I have my own network on social media on Instagram,
so I'm usually watching that the Sugar Network.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
He don't got time for that.

Speaker 11 (01:36:30):
Okay, I don't watch a lot of the crap you
talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
I fell into selling Sunset, which why Okay. A good
friend of mine is a writer at at Saturday Night Live,
and she was supposed to do a spoof of it
and I didn't get her script, and she's like, well,
you have to watch the show first. So I was like,

(01:36:55):
all right, I'll watch an episode. And then I messed
around and started watching like all three cs like within
a two day period, and that was like the lowest point.
I had a prime reason why we had our guests
doing today for this uh for this episode is I

(01:37:18):
really really loved ted last so and I almost feel
like we would have to I'd have to share like
our text history as I was watching it more because
you could feel me getting I felt like you manipulated us,
Jason Absolute, I feel like you manipulated us. All right,
So this is the last time I heard this. This

(01:37:41):
even brought up in this way was with Spike Lee
and Annabella Siora in Jungle Fever, in which Spike accused
Annabella of like really changing the character to be more
likable than he wanted her to be. And I felt like, okay, yeah,
you're trying to show me from from the pilot. I

(01:38:04):
was like, Okay, I'm not going to like this guy's
going to be like Michael Scott on The Office. I
get what I'm about to watch, right, And it's totally
not that, Like, how did you even sell this concept
to even work?

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:38:20):
I mean we had these commercial the commercials that the
character is based on that did well, Like in twenty thirteen,
twenty fourteen, we're trying to sell the English Premier League
showing up on NBC Sports, and it was all about
a way to get American football fans into you know,
British football soccer, and so it had like a little
bit of like you know heat with that, but the
character was totally different. With the whole style and the

(01:38:41):
ethos and the philosophy, the show was going to be
a little bit more lived in and you know, almost
like a we always sort of use like you know,
like Nora Ephron or Ron Sheldon you know who did
you know, Bull Durham and Tim Kopf and he got
gained and now he got Game two expect. But white
Man can't jump, you know, you know Blue Chips, you know,
he did all those movies Ron Sheldon did, And so

(01:39:03):
I just was like, oh, it's going to be it's
a little bit more lived in, it's more sincere.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
And it was tough though.

Speaker 8 (01:39:08):
I mean, I think they bought it thinking it was
going to be what you thought it was going to be.
And then as as the script started to come in,
and then as the you know, daily started to come in,
and you know, we just kept bumping it into what
it was supposed to be versus what people thought it
was going to be, but one hundred percent aware of
the fact of what people thought it was going to be.
And so yeah, your text history, I mean, I gave
you all like the I'll give you the you know,

(01:39:30):
the Criterion collection, like audio commentary of like, yeah, here's
what we're doing. And because I think that's one of
the neat things, you know, well, I mean because the
whole concept came up in twenty fifteen, you know, pre
ferguson pre Trump coming down the thing pre times up
or you know, like hope and empathy never goes out
of style.

Speaker 6 (01:39:47):
And it probably would have.

Speaker 8 (01:39:48):
Benefited then because the same vibe and I think I
bet a mere part of the same vibe that you
might not even be aware of that you loved about
Detroiters is pushing through this. It's about you know, it's
out sort of seeing the best in people, and you know,
and that was all about Tim and Sam seeing the
best in the Detroit you know, and just doing like
the you know eight mile or like you know, you know,

(01:40:09):
burnt out you know, Christ there you factories.

Speaker 6 (01:40:11):
It was like.

Speaker 8 (01:40:13):
Right, yeah, and so like and so we did that
with this, but using years of exposition of sports films too,
you know, to our benefit that we could twist things
and flesh them out. And then and then a lot
of the last ten years of like you know, you
know what dude anti heroes both you know, like whether
it's Don Draper or.

Speaker 14 (01:40:33):
White Tony Sprano, I mean, Michael Scott, David Brent, you know,
and just sort of like flip it on its ear
and just come at it, you know, like sincerely, and
and and let people just assume the like did you
watch that that the documentary about mister Rogers you.

Speaker 6 (01:40:50):
Know, you know, won't beat my neighbor.

Speaker 8 (01:40:52):
Like if you watch that, like in modern even if
you watch it now, you will watch it's two hours long.
You will be waiting. You're gonna be like, Okay, when
does he touching kid? Like we're just conditions. We're so
cynical that hey, here it comes again. All right, this
is like nothing and he's just pure and it's just
and it's just like yeah, and so Ted is just

(01:41:13):
like this. He's not perfect, but it means but he's
you know, this egleist thing that people put their ship
on and we did that as.

Speaker 6 (01:41:18):
Viewers and well we we all you know, we're messing
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
It was a unicorn to me because I'm like, really, like,
this guy knows how to up rock like a bee
boy and quote fight from a trap call quest.

Speaker 9 (01:41:34):
And I broke that all all right, I'm gonna get
this whole free trial, Jason, I gotta get it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:44):
Go back and listen to this whole podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
Yeah, like you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:41:49):
Like when you were like at the Unicorn, I was
like I was like, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Telling yes, Like the fact that you had low expectations
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
It's like I didn't have no whole expectations. I just
wasn't streaming service.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
I wasn't ready for expectations.

Speaker 6 (01:42:07):
It's about having any expectation. It's about and it's not
with Jason.

Speaker 9 (01:42:11):
So I follow you pretty much where you go anyway,
and I know it's going to be good and funny.
But now that j'all broke it down, I'm like, all.

Speaker 6 (01:42:17):
Right, oh, but it's like it's a whole the whole
vibe and the cast is incredible.

Speaker 8 (01:42:21):
Like we got such so many good people and like
the right staff and everybody just gave it damn. Like
it's it's it's it's a really neat thing and it's
something really fun to be a part of it much less,
you know, like least it's Doe said it's a character, yes,
but it's mostly a vibe.

Speaker 6 (01:42:34):
Like when you watch it, you're kind of like, oh, yeah, yeah,
this is this is.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
Jason, come on it. Yeah, okay, since you since you
quasi mentioned it. I'm also one of these people that
gets mostly attached to a series and if it if
the series ends prematurely before yeah it's time, I will
slow down. Like I still haven't finished the last four

(01:43:02):
episodes of Detroiters yet because I know that's it. Is
there any way possible another network, another or the guys
are just like we tried.

Speaker 6 (01:43:19):
No golly, I I guarante.

Speaker 8 (01:43:20):
I mean, I can't speak for them, but but I
mean that thing deserved a third season. That thing deserve
like they never were there, there there was they they're
so Tim and Sam are so special as like individual performers,
and then there there chemistry together and there you know,
they're really that, they're like that in real life, you know,
and we and and Joe Kelly, who was one of

(01:43:42):
the you know, producers and writers on Ted Lasso and
one of the original creators of the commercials with me
that and Zach Cannon, you know, like they they were
they were finding their groove.

Speaker 6 (01:43:51):
They were finding their groove with that show. And you know,
it was a bummer. It's a real bummer. But I'm
glad that those two exist at least.

Speaker 8 (01:44:01):
But I don't I don't blame you for taking your
time with it because it's it's it's stinks.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
We tried, We tried, you know, all sorts of ways,
you know.

Speaker 8 (01:44:08):
And Ken Alterman, who was in charge of Comedy Central
the time was really a big fan of it too,
and you.

Speaker 6 (01:44:14):
Know, it's tough.

Speaker 8 (01:44:16):
It's tough, you know they I think it would have
found its audience in that third season because it's just
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
Right, yeah. I was going to say, if anybody out
there that needs new content of like anything they overlooked
or they're like, okay, what what else is left to watch?

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
That's a great one.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
It's like for me, I'm still amazed. There's one particular
episode that is such Detroit inside speak. That's what I
knew I had to pay attention. Many people don't know
is that Stevie wonders My Eyes Don't Cry. That is
a step that jam smells like teen spirit to Detroit,

(01:44:59):
like I played before. I let go at a Black
Detroit function once and it was like a middle and
it's sort of like a response. And the guy ran
up to me and says, I know what you're searching for.
Play My Eyes Don't Cry by Stevie Wonder. I was
like that song, get the fuck out of here, I'm
playing superstition and I let the By the end of

(01:45:20):
the night, he says, I'm gonna tell you I would
never steal you wrong, find a way to get into
Stevie Wonder's my Eyes don't cry and see what happens?
And I put it on. Dude. Even the garbage men
outside ran in to start doing line stepping. I'd never
seen such like chaos over a song that I was like,

(01:45:41):
why this song is a h is it even a jam?
But the fact that they managed to play this seven
times on that show, knowing what I know about song
clearance and whatever, I can only imagine the love letter

(01:46:02):
that somebody had to give to the Stevie Wonder a
state to be like, this is an inside joke. We're
going to play the song anytime.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
I don't even know.

Speaker 6 (01:46:09):
Yeah, I don't know how we got it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
That's the first That's the first question I asked Stevie
Wonder when asking for Britain permission for clearance for my
own project. I was like, forget all that. How did
you clear that song for Detroit Is? Seven times?

Speaker 6 (01:46:23):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
That's how much I love it. So I'm just saying that, Yeah,
that that that's how much I love that show so
the most.

Speaker 8 (01:46:31):
Yeah, I mean the Fellow directed parasite. You know, when
I was watching that, you know, the the Oscars said
that Scorsese didn't score. I forget how you say his name.
I actually didn't see Parasite yet.

Speaker 6 (01:46:41):
But like.

Speaker 8 (01:46:43):
I know, I know, I just because i've been editing,
I've been like that, Okay, okay, I've been just thinking
of you know, fake world the whole time, not having
the chance to dig around on others.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
It was a twenty nineteen.

Speaker 6 (01:46:59):
Twenty. But when he said, you know, the most personal
is that you know, the most personal is the most
what do you say that? Scorsese said, like the most
personal is the most original.

Speaker 8 (01:47:08):
Okay, No, I think it's like the most personal is
the most original, and it might be I should look
it up.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
I apologize.

Speaker 8 (01:47:14):
All I know is that praise reminded reminded me of
what we were trying to do at Ted Last but
in the same way that I loved how specific you know,
we call them two percenter jokes on Ted Last Word.
It's like we know that the reason we got to
do the show is because the soccer community embraced those
early commercials, and so we put little jokes in there
that are only for the you know, the like the
big soccer football fans and Tim and Sam and Joe

(01:47:35):
and Zach did that with Detroitter's all the time for
Detroit specifically, and it was just.

Speaker 4 (01:47:40):
Yeah, it's just love.

Speaker 8 (01:47:41):
It's just love for for what they're doing and no
no judgment, and and that comes across and then you
feel like you're in on the joke.

Speaker 6 (01:47:48):
Even if you don't get the joke, you feel like
you're in on the joke, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:47:51):
Like that's one of the things that we talked about,
like with the Alan Iverson speech and the Ted Lasso thing,
was like, you get the joke, that's the reference. That's great,
but if you don't, it still plays. And I used
to say about money Python all the time, it's like, yeah,
if you know you know King Arthur history and like
you know the folklore, then yeah, Holy Grail works on right.

Speaker 6 (01:48:10):
Those level a different level.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Otherwise it's just.

Speaker 6 (01:48:12):
Really good jokes, you know. It's it's like you know,
and Detroit's Yeah was a definite version of that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:17):
Ted does a brilliant reference to practice exactly, not a
game practice.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
Man, not practice.

Speaker 4 (01:48:31):
Yes he does.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
It's brilliant. So did you guys lose friends or did
you gain friends in twenty twenty?

Speaker 7 (01:48:40):
I didn't lose friends I don't think I lost anyone.
I think it just again, this was to me, twenty
twenty was just a year of revelation, and I think
this was just the year. I didn't lose friends, but
I really realized the importance of my friends, and I
really saw like who was really down for you? You

(01:49:00):
know what I'm saying, Like, and you know, and I
think for a lot of people, A big thing for
me was just looking at your life and realizing that
if you have people in your life that can't serve
you now at a point in time where things are
at this most uncertain, you're at your most vulnerable. You know,
you're at your you know, your most just kind of crazy.

(01:49:22):
If you have people in your life that can't serve
you in this time, then they never served you at all,
you know what I'm saying, Like, if you can't you
know what I'm saying, If the people in your life
ain't showing up for you right now, then it's like, well,
what did I ever need you for?

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:49:39):
And so that was a big thing for me, just
you know, I don't think I lost nobody, but the
ones that you know, really been my day ones, Like
they really showed up for me in real, real ways,
and you know, we showed up each other in real ways,
and it just strengthened that bond even more.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Okay, anyone else that's so perfect?

Speaker 6 (01:50:00):
Oh yeah, I mean I wish I had that.

Speaker 8 (01:50:02):
No, I feel like I feel like I gained friends
a little bit like when you like, uh, when you
look through the drawer that has T shirts you haven't
worn in a while and you're kind of like, right,
I love this shirt, or you know, you look through
the back of the closet like a little bit like that,
where you you know, you know, revisited friends that maybe
I I you know, forgotten but I but again, I

(01:50:23):
think it was more about losing going to my own,
going in my cave and then coming out like a
little bit like bleary eyed and then realizing, oh, here
we are and you know, allowing people to see me
again versus maybe you know, they were maybe there the
whole time. So I think it was a little bit
of almost the inverse of what you were what you
were just speaking about.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
Do you think with this year and with COVID and everything,
do you think that played a role in you and
Olivia choosing to split or was that something that was
kind of coming anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:50:53):
You think, No, I think that had a lot. I
think I had had a lot to do it. And
I think, you know, I mean, you know, I we'll see,
we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:51:01):
You know. Life is long, I I you.

Speaker 6 (01:51:03):
Know, I feel I feel like all sorts of stuff
can still happen.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
I mean we live in longer and longer every day.

Speaker 6 (01:51:13):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
That's true, and start new chapters and new eras.

Speaker 6 (01:51:18):
Yeah, when you have and when you have, when you
have children, there's that you know we're going to be
you know, we're gonna share grand kids, assume our kids.

Speaker 4 (01:51:29):
You so, so we'll you know, we'll see, you know,
but we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
Bill, you know, I don't know. Real hard thing to
pass the ball, Bill, Jess. Have I lost to gate
any friend? I don't know status quo. I think I
live on like my own island and do my own ship.
I think it's right when you have kids, like your
life is different.

Speaker 6 (01:51:56):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
I don't know. My life is about my kids pretty
much all time, all the time. So they're still my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
I think, I hope, Sugar Steve, Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:52:08):
I'm always making new friends, people, people, really love me.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
Yeah, this is true.

Speaker 9 (01:52:14):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
That's saying you're sugaring that works, rolling rolling tight.

Speaker 6 (01:52:21):
Yeah, you're just you know, slow and steadium. People can
just like wrap the love around you.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
You're just like around you know.

Speaker 9 (01:52:32):
I haven't been dealing with a loss of friends, but
I will say I miss I miss I missed touched,
and for me, it's been real deep, like even when
I was talking to y'all, was like, not for nothing.
I missed like coming into a studio and hugging all
the y'all and pushing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Steve away, and I just I mean, it sounds so simple.
Don't say that with that red light on quest love.
Don't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:53:03):
But months without What about eye contact?

Speaker 8 (01:53:06):
I missed eye contact Like we were doing writing our
whole second season, like in a zoom room. And then
I remember getting a pair of headphones from my buddy Brendan,
who plays Coach Beard, as like a gift, you know,
so that he you know, for playing FIFA together, and
he drove by and I was just joking around and
I'm throw it in the car, you know, like that,
and still wrapped in plastic, and just seeing him in person,
I was like, hey, you're real three dimensions.

Speaker 6 (01:53:30):
I was like, yeah, like I totally forgot about that,
like by you know, August. You know, you're just like
this didn't didn't register anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Yeah, I don't realize you have not been touched by like,
gon't been touched by like one two people that happened.

Speaker 11 (01:53:46):
Hey, Jason, can I ask a question? Did you know
Hal Wilner over at SNL?

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:53:52):
Very yeah, Yeah, I mean, you know, he's the closest
you know, the person that I that I know that
as you know, you know from COVID. Yeah, I mean
one of my favorite stories about how, you know, my
first year at SNL was two thousand and three and
I was a writer and in between dress and air,
you know, all fifty of us, you know, all the
cast members and all the writers are all packed into

(01:54:12):
Lauren's room and people are sitting on the floor and
they're sitting all over the place.

Speaker 6 (01:54:16):
And I'd seen how like walking around and I knew,
you know, he has very very conspicuous look.

Speaker 8 (01:54:21):
He's one of those guys that looked like, you know,
their muppet would look identical.

Speaker 6 (01:54:24):
To them, you know, like he and he was sitting
Indian style across leg and I'm sorry. I think that's
what we're suppoed said now.

Speaker 8 (01:54:32):
And I was sitting on the floor too, and and
and he was just rocking back and forth, just like this,
just rocking back and forth. And I was just kind
of like looking at him, and I knew he had
been around the show for you know, since you know,
earlier early on, and he just kind of looks at me,
like like the.

Speaker 6 (01:54:46):
Camera here is my my eyes.

Speaker 8 (01:54:48):
He's just rocking back and forth, and he just looks
at me and he goes. I remember when this whole
room was filled with pot smoke and.

Speaker 1 (01:54:55):
He went right back to rock.

Speaker 6 (01:54:56):
It was like it was like Laslow from Real G.
It was it was just this story and then and then.

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
You know, I mean, yeah, he just.

Speaker 6 (01:55:06):
Had all these stories and and he just really took
a shine to me.

Speaker 8 (01:55:10):
You know, I don't you know, other people in my
generation like Melani were even closer to him, or like
Fred Obviously they could you know, go hours talking about
music and deep cuts and stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:55:19):
But he he was always encouraging me to like watch
weird stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:55:24):
He wanted me to host like a Playboy after Dark
kind of series with them. You know, he'd always asked
me to do like side gigs that he was doing
at town Hall, but you know, like lou Reid stuff,
and he just he just he was really really amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:55:37):
And that one hit. That one hit me hard because
I was like, that's that's the closest I've had and
I so I can't I can't even remember.

Speaker 8 (01:55:45):
When I saw him last. It might have been actually
in like at the beginning of the year, at the
beginning like February. Whenever I left played, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
How how was our guy at UH? A thirty rock man?
He'd always, yeah, have some trivia I didn't know about
about music, And yes, I'm just now discovering. The second
time that we played s n L was because of
how we did a project with Too to the Maytals,

(01:56:15):
and I didn't realize that how was the one that organized,
like how was the label and and the put it
all together. I didn't know who he was back in
UH two thousand and three when we did it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
You guys played with two, Yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
We did SNL twice. The Roots, Yeah we did.

Speaker 6 (01:56:35):
I forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Yeah, and then the yeah, the when to the Mayteles
was on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:56:42):
Yeah, that was my first season yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Wow, we were Yeah, man, so you know what, well, okay,
that leads to what celebt death hit you the hardest
this year?

Speaker 7 (01:56:53):
I think for me Black Panther, Yeah, because that that
one for me that just came out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
I was like what, like what yeah, because no one
knew he was sick. So that was and it was crazy.
So it was a buddy of mine, was his.

Speaker 7 (01:57:10):
Producing partner, my homie, my homie Logan, Logan Cole's and
who wow really bring f F circle. Me and him
hung out together at the block party, at the day
Chepel block party.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
Yeah, and so Logan and Logan, he just it was
it was the crazy shit.

Speaker 7 (01:57:28):
I've known Logan since God this price Sin is like,
oh for so this is probably like sixteen years I've
known this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
And Logan would always tell me.

Speaker 7 (01:57:35):
He'd be like, yeah, so you know, I'm working in
and you know, me and my producing partner Chad, me
and my homie Chad were doing this and me and
my homie Chad, and he was just always just mentioned
his homie Chad.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
And so it wasn't until I think like last year.
I think it was last year, you're full last he
had uh Chad.

Speaker 7 (01:57:51):
He did a movie called twenty one Bridges. It was
like he played this cop. It was just like this
cop joint and it was actually pretty good, pretty good flick.
But Logan was on Twitter. He was like, yeah, you know,
I'm I'm producing this movie. You know, he was bigging
up the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
And I hit him. I was like, hold up, dude,
you ain't even tell me all these fucking years, the
homie Chad you've been talking about is fucking Chad with Boseman.

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
He was like yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:58:11):
I said, holy shit, I didn't even know. And so
y'all went and saw it and I hit him. I
hit Logan like when he was the first one I
hit when I got the news and I just checked.
I was like, I'm bro, you good, Like how you
y he and he was just like devastated, and he said, man,
you know he's as crazy. He said, because you know,
the next time you was in LA I wanted to
link y'all up because he was he fucked with your music.

(01:58:33):
I was like, word, He's like, yeah, man, you Carolina.
Like he's like, you know he was South Carolina, you
know you North Carolina. He's like, man, yeah, he fucked
with little brother all that shit. He said he wanted
to fuck with you. I was like, damn, I had
no idea, but but that was super That was just
super sad for me like that. It was just a
sour note on top of an already sour year.

Speaker 1 (01:58:52):
Yeah it happened, Kobe, Yeah, Kobe, definitely. That feels like
it was two years ago, right, God, I think before March.

Speaker 9 (01:59:01):
I don't remember who happened when because I still feel
like I didn't even give Ali her goodbyes and she
was like a guest on our show.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
Yeah for real? When did Ali will was pass away?

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
I guess maybe maybe that was the end of twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
Okay, Yeah, it wasn't during Okay, you know, it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
Wasn't during during COVID, but we lost some folks. I
lost a from this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
So really wow. Yeah, for me, I think like Bill Withers,
oh yeah, passing, Like I always dreamed of getting him
on the show, and he was one of my books
of this people too. Yeah yeah, and so that that
kind of threw me for a loop.

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
Oh what, nothing just got sad.

Speaker 7 (01:59:50):
It was like, yeah, Ali died last year. She got
twenty nineteen on Christmas Eve?

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Whoa Okay, it was like right before, right around that time,
Steve Herman Kane.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Good answer. I think that's a good answer.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
Well he's still tweeting, no, so you can holler him
for real. Oh yeah, they still they still tweet Herman Kane.
Oh you ain't know that.

Speaker 7 (02:00:19):
Oh you don't be on Twitter like that. Oh no,
Herman Kane. They the Kane Trains, the Rolling Baby.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
Still given talking points even despite how he died steal
on Twitter, dog steal Oh god, wo yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:00:34):
I was for the answer for me is how and
I would encourage our listeners to check out all of
his amazing albums that he put out over the years,
tribute albums to everybody from from Monk to the most
recent one which was attributed to t Rex that came
out right after he passed away. So streaming or stuff.

(02:00:56):
I mean, you guys are giving ads for ice cream?
I can hews right, absolutely absolutely?

Speaker 1 (02:01:03):
Yeah. Ain't nobody saying nothing?

Speaker 6 (02:01:05):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
Shot?

Speaker 6 (02:01:07):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:01:08):
Then you know down download him?

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
What's yours bill?

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
People who died?

Speaker 4 (02:01:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
Which which one hits?

Speaker 6 (02:01:15):
You?

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
Rock to you a little bit more?

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
Ruth Bader Ginsburg Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
Wow, damn.

Speaker 8 (02:01:21):
Oh, I was just gonna say I remember making a
mixtape of just Eddie Van Halen's guitar solos, just.

Speaker 6 (02:01:27):
Just only the solos, like one after another.

Speaker 8 (02:01:31):
And that's and I would you ride my bike to
go play basketball place called the Athletic Club and just
be just yours?

Speaker 6 (02:01:38):
Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was crazy, just you know,
just eruption over and over.

Speaker 1 (02:01:44):
Yeah, to be Okay. I was gonna ask what was
the most twenty twenty thing ever? Probably for me the
disappointment of the amount of peers that I have in
this industry. How they disappointed me politically, just one by one,

(02:02:10):
Mega man. I wasn't I wasn't ready for that at all.

Speaker 3 (02:02:14):
How about how you got Karen the first day you
moved into your mansion.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
It's a farm, all right, you know what, We actually
straightened it out. Here's here's the deal.

Speaker 4 (02:02:26):
Though.

Speaker 1 (02:02:26):
The deal is I am the I'm the youngest person
up there. The average neighbors somewhere between like seventy and ninety. Shit.
So I would say that maybe that particular person like
we definitely had the conversation. It was misunderstanding. He you know,
I was like, no, no, I knew I was welcoming you,

(02:02:47):
but you know, I was just still a little alarm
that just walked into my crib, like so you on
this place. You know, maybe he could have chosen a
better opening sentence than that, but you know, just based
on what I was wing talking into, I wasn't.

Speaker 9 (02:03:01):
Expecting you should have done that at his house and
see how it played over that I wouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (02:03:07):
Here whatever exactly. Yeah, we'd be yeah, all right this
place and we're not back on like a supreme Wow,
that's dark, that one's right there. Yeah, I'll say that. Yeah,

(02:03:31):
they're just uh, you know, and I know black people
aren't supposed to throw each other under the bus and
on stuff publicly, like we don't do that ship. But man,
when I when I saw someone give the delors, Tucker
was right post that, that hit me kind of hard.
The Lords Tucker was right about, like, yeah, just the

(02:03:54):
fuckery of I mean, somewhere somewhere between you know, black
on black crime, what about Chicago one hotep one on
one and just like it's this so called black contract
thing and whatever, like you know, I just yeah, I

(02:04:15):
mean more than him. It's like practically every political hot
take talking point just ass backwards. And I know people
quote meant well, but you know, now's the time to
not be changing horses in the middle of the stream.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
It's okay, it'll all be forgotten the mirror. It's called
I'll be forgotten.

Speaker 1 (02:04:38):
Nah man, I'm telling you like it's I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
I mean, I have a list.

Speaker 1 (02:04:50):
So what was the most twenty twenty thing for you?

Speaker 7 (02:04:52):
What's what happened the other day that I saw and
I was like, did I put it in the group chat?
Something happened? I feel like every dates something happens that
is the most twenty twenty things.

Speaker 4 (02:05:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
Ever, look, I'm trying to think.

Speaker 9 (02:05:06):
I'm not going to be on my black shit, but
I do think the world discovering June tenth was a
pretty twenty twenty moment.

Speaker 6 (02:05:11):
But that's just yeah, that was amazing. Yeah yeah, like
I'd never heard of it in my life.

Speaker 9 (02:05:19):
I have no idea because in my moment, like so
that everybody think that everybody was independent on seventeen seventy,
seventeen seventy.

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
Yeah, be straight up, like black people really weren't even
celebrating twenty Juneteenth like that. I mean there's a certain
sect of black.

Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
People, yeah, dependent nationwide.

Speaker 1 (02:05:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it was you know, they knew about it,
but they didn't know that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
But you know how we are.

Speaker 9 (02:05:44):
Sometimes we got to see white people people acknowledge at first,
and we'd be like, yeah, that's right, that is It's
just that's not that's the truth that we'll talk about.

Speaker 12 (02:05:52):
Okay, I feel okay, I remember what it was.

Speaker 7 (02:05:59):
The most twenty twenty thing I saw was the advertisement
for the Lifetime Original movie with Mario Lopez as General
sam As as Colonel Sanders Kentucky Fried Chicken.

Speaker 1 (02:06:12):
Jason, have you seen this?

Speaker 3 (02:06:14):
Holy?

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
I know Jason been doing important.

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
He been edited. It's a lifetime It's a Jason. It's
a lifetime in your life where you don't have to
go through this.

Speaker 6 (02:06:28):
Is it recent?

Speaker 1 (02:06:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
Last weekend?

Speaker 3 (02:06:31):
I think it did.

Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
Let's will give me one second, y'all give me one second.
You remember how Will Farrell and and like Rachel and
what's your name? Did they did a real lifetime movie?

Speaker 4 (02:06:45):
Yes? And they did.

Speaker 1 (02:06:46):
Ironically, Yeah, this has to be the follow up to that.

Speaker 6 (02:06:53):
And he's playing Colonel Sanders.

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
Mario Mario Lopez is playing Colonel Sanders. Saved by the
Bell got them a C. Slater playing Colonel motherfucker Sanders
about the little love story, with the whole nine, with
the with the fucking ridiculous the little string tie. Everything
he's doing, he's not he's not doing a Southern accent.

Speaker 7 (02:07:17):
He's like, I mean, he's basically talking like Mario Lopez.
But but there in this a Lifetime original movie or
it says mini movie.

Speaker 1 (02:07:25):
I think it's only like fifteen.

Speaker 6 (02:07:26):
Minutes original recipe, original recipe.

Speaker 1 (02:07:29):
Man, they could have they man movie. It's only like
fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
So yall, y'all do know the real.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
It is the story and I thought they were gonna
tell that story.

Speaker 9 (02:07:41):
Yeah no, I mean the real story that this is
actually a Kentucky Fried Chicken commercial, alternative advertising that they're
trying out like this is I did not know this.

Speaker 7 (02:07:50):
Yeah, yeah, Air the thirteenth, I missed it there the thirteenth.
But it's called a recipe for seduction.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
Okay, now, now's the time for me to do slight confessional.
So in Japan, their relationship with Fried Chicken is on
another level. Christmas time. Christmas time in Japan is more
akin or closer to Valentine's Day. So what happens is

(02:08:25):
from December twenty fifth to about New Year's Eve, like
December thirtieth, you and your loved one you take a
staycation and a sexy hotel and you bring with you
for an after an after session snack, yeah, post coitus,

(02:08:46):
an eighteen piece KFC dinner. It's like a it's a tradition,
like there are lines around the corner of every KFC
in Japan around Christmas time because you got stock up
on your bucket of chicken and you get your love hotel.
They got little love hotels for couples.

Speaker 2 (02:09:07):
They don't know about Papa's.

Speaker 1 (02:09:08):
Though, because Nona this Japan. So they offered me. So
there was there was once discussion of putting me in
that position as sort of the face.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
Of uh no, I'm gonna tell you what we're not
about to do.

Speaker 1 (02:09:25):
Wait layah, this was two thousand and seven. Do you
think I did it?

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
I know you didn't have to marry, right.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
But they yeah, but they yeah, I got offered.

Speaker 2 (02:09:37):
That that's what we're not about to do.

Speaker 3 (02:09:39):
Wow chicken.

Speaker 1 (02:09:44):
Yeah, So that's my slight confession. Anyway, My last question,
my last question, what's the silver lining of twenty twenty?

Speaker 3 (02:09:59):
Really, that's the silver lining clarity.

Speaker 1 (02:10:03):
My answer is versus. My answer is versus. Ah okay,
oh oh you mean civil lining in that way?

Speaker 7 (02:10:09):
Okay, well you know what I would say, the civil
line if we speak, speaking on that, on that, on
that type of time. D Nice, like D Nice one
twenty twenty, he was the winner of twenty twenty, like
the CEM level up the way.

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
He had and not for nothing.

Speaker 9 (02:10:22):
D Nice was the hero of twenty twenty and the
last three months because sometimes to get a little punchive,
so it was nice wonder I just gotta say, because
because I haven't the records, I'm just saying the records
sometimes they be.

Speaker 2 (02:10:33):
Of the same record.

Speaker 9 (02:10:34):
But I love you though, and you and big ups
to him from going from a downtown apartment in Los
Angeles to the Hollywood Hills with a pool. Big up
to you, D Nice because.

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
He moved child.

Speaker 1 (02:10:45):
Oh yeah, yes, you need to look at that.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
Watch that background of meal, watch that background change.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
Okay, oh yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:10:52):
Oh yeah, okay, my man is in a different tax
bracket with another carma.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
Wow. Okay, he leveled up.

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
He leveled up?

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
All right, Steve, what was your silver lining of twenty twenty?

Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
Wow?

Speaker 10 (02:11:05):
Everything and everybody was revealed completely fast and also the
thing on Instagram with.

Speaker 3 (02:11:14):
With the new feature with the reels. Yeah, reels, Yeah
that's it.

Speaker 6 (02:11:19):
Do you like that?

Speaker 1 (02:11:20):
Yeah? I mean, imagine what your reels content looks like. Okay,
your favorite scroll down? Okay, okay, Bill, what's your silver
lining of twenty twenty?

Speaker 3 (02:11:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:11:42):
I think that we're lucky enough to live in a
profession whatever industry, the industry, we can still get worked
done and you can still make shit. Yeah, you can
edit shit, and I can write ship the mirror, you
can make ship in front that you can wrap shit. Yeah,
you can have three jobs. We can all still make
sure we found our way out of the ship and I.

Speaker 1 (02:12:04):
And my hope is that we keep using it.

Speaker 7 (02:12:06):
I think just twenty twenty just revealed just how much
of the customs we had were just fucking outdated and
fucking pointless, you.

Speaker 1 (02:12:14):
Know what I mean? And like, yeah, you know, I
think now you know, taking a meeting flying for a meeting, man, listen,
you know what I mean. It's like, dude, man, So
like I went to like bro one of my boys
got married. Man, listen, y'all see me on the Yeah,
now yo, I went my man. My man got married
the other day.

Speaker 7 (02:12:34):
My homie got married Saturday, and you know it was
on Zoom and you know, me and my wife were
sitting there at the table were watching it, and it
literally was probably like twenty minutes because all we watched
was the vows, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
Man, I logged off. I was like, yo, I ain't
got to go to another guy the web in my life,
cuz that shit was great. We see everybody, like the
bride came to the camera and was like, hey, thank
y'all for coming, guys, I appreciate it. You know, we
put something in a little gift registry whatever, and then
not my ass was back on the couch.

Speaker 6 (02:13:04):
That was great, m I get that.

Speaker 8 (02:13:09):
That way about press, really about what about press, you know,
just like you know, having to do junket interviews and
just like you know, being able to do talk show
after talk show like in August and September and just
doing it doing.

Speaker 6 (02:13:21):
It like this, and that was it was great to
not have to leave the family and leave, you know,
do all that.

Speaker 8 (02:13:26):
As much as that we were joking about, you know,
missing an airport, but for little things like that, you know,
don't get me wrong.

Speaker 6 (02:13:31):
I give me the writers them every time. I believe
the alphimy of human beings being in the same space.
I believe in that power, that magic. But like for
for you know, for press, but for me, my, my.
The silver lining I think is having my have my
heart broken open?

Speaker 1 (02:13:45):
What do you think was keeping?

Speaker 6 (02:13:46):
Was it?

Speaker 7 (02:13:47):
Was it when you got it broken open? Was that
when you realize it had been closed all this time?

Speaker 4 (02:13:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (02:13:55):
Yeah, yeah, I yeah, not all this time, but but
but for a chunk of time, you know, yeah, you know,
And that and that sometimes is uh.

Speaker 6 (02:14:05):
I think that happens a lot with fear, you know,
you know, I know, I know radio humans said love
and hate, but that it's loving fear, you know, and
uh and yeah, and I think that that fear can
can come.

Speaker 1 (02:14:20):
And get them.

Speaker 6 (02:14:21):
Uh and so it's better better to run right at it.

Speaker 1 (02:14:24):
Some that's true. I can double wait what's that thing for?

Speaker 8 (02:14:31):
That was a good?

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
I'm sorry, I was that was a good.

Speaker 3 (02:14:37):
That was sometimes you do it.

Speaker 1 (02:14:39):
Like listen up with me or you need this, and
I was like, I'm listening.

Speaker 9 (02:14:43):
I also was sitting here thinking that this is a
silver lining too, because at the end of the day,
Zoom and FaceTime have been like the silver lining. I mean,
this is what as I talked to my parents and
who this is the longest in my whole entire lifetime
that I've ever been apart away from them, you know
every morning on the FaceTime.

Speaker 1 (02:15:03):
Naw, this is it's like it's it's been.

Speaker 7 (02:15:06):
It's been the craziest Black Mirror episode ever because what
it did, like you know what I'm saying with with
Zoom and everything, essentially, what it's done is it changes
the way we process intimacy.

Speaker 1 (02:15:17):
So you know, like things that used to look that
you would look.

Speaker 7 (02:15:20):
At as trivial, like if someone texted you, like a
text whatever, and in the roma years, like you happy
as hell to see a text FaceTime, it's like holy shit,
you know what I mean, Like those things they take
on a deeper meanor yeah, right, So do we assume
that quote when this is all over, it just basically
means but we don't have to wear masks anymore, That's

(02:15:41):
what That's what it means.

Speaker 9 (02:15:45):
Now, and not when we don't have to wear a
mask anymore. When folks feel comfortable not wearing a mask
anymore too, right.

Speaker 6 (02:15:51):
Yeah, yeah, you can pass a joint again.

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
Yeah, facts, facts, fact?

Speaker 9 (02:16:00):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
You ever thought about that?

Speaker 9 (02:16:02):
Yeah, which is why I spending so much god damn money,
probably too because I ain't smoking other people or you ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:16:10):
Smoking with other people.

Speaker 6 (02:16:12):
Right, you're in the right town now for you know,
you're in the right you know, am I? Though maybe not?
You know what I'm saying that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:22):
A block away, am I?

Speaker 6 (02:16:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:16:25):
They didn't turned up the prize to the man.

Speaker 9 (02:16:28):
No, no, no, I wasn't saying that. I'm just saying
that it's here, and so it's here, and I wait
for it to be over so it could be here.

Speaker 4 (02:16:35):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (02:16:35):
Why didn't we just have we known?

Speaker 1 (02:16:39):
We usually do? You know, I just want to say that,
you know, I think the moment we realized this was
the real thing was during the Dawn Lewis episode where
it was like, oh wow, our lives, Like we realized
at that moment that our lives were going to change
because we kept getting text over like coworkers getting sick

(02:17:01):
and all those things, and so, you know, to where
we are now. You know, I'm glad that we are all.

Speaker 9 (02:17:08):
Physically healthy, although I miss our group pictures Cee Jason
right now, we'd be impressing you with our nice iHeart studio,
with the lights that click on, with the music and stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:17:20):
You let's take a picture, right, but you know the screencap.

Speaker 1 (02:17:26):
It's all good, yeah cap. However, yeah, you know, may
we may we have a a healthier twenty twenty one
and a prosperous twenty twenty.

Speaker 9 (02:17:39):
I know, spirits upquest love. We got a whole new
president at opposite the very least we got that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
Come on, now, come on now.

Speaker 1 (02:17:45):
Yes I'm not.

Speaker 3 (02:17:47):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:17:48):
And I'm also being considered that someone's asleeping.

Speaker 3 (02:17:50):
The other okay, okay mine.

Speaker 1 (02:17:53):
Oh yeah, because she's about to be up at deb
five exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:17:57):
I want a trampoline.

Speaker 1 (02:18:01):
But Jason, I thank you for joining our year end review.
This absolutely oh man yo, and for I forget dude.
I just wanted to tell you, man, I have totally
for you. Leave.

Speaker 6 (02:18:11):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:18:12):
My favorite fucking role of yours man Shane from fucking
Eastbounding Down. Oh, when I tell you that is like
every white dude I went to high school with. I
that yeah, Oh my god, Like you nailed that ship, Bro.

Speaker 6 (02:18:29):
That was HILARI myrtle beach. That's you know, that's like
you know, those dude No, I mean those dudes Danny
and Jody Hill and David, you know David were green.

Speaker 8 (02:18:39):
I wish I would have known that school existed when
I was, you know, between my nineteen and twenty three,
because I would have gone to North Carolina School of
the Arts if I knew I was going to you know,
find fucking guys like that, because those are dudes that
just are fun to play with them in whatever sandbox
they create.

Speaker 6 (02:18:54):
So yeah, man, I'm just good dudes. So to play
catch up of those goods I.

Speaker 3 (02:19:00):
Said, I love and Found turns into Chris Farley at
the end of the episode. Hey man.

Speaker 1 (02:19:07):
Was awesome. Thank you, I own the DVD. Yeah. I
was going to say, Jason, uh yeah, when season two
is upon us or even your next project, we have
to do a proper yeah episode.

Speaker 2 (02:19:22):
Talking about the basketball star.

Speaker 1 (02:19:23):
Yes, yes, no, all those things, but yeah, we caught
you at our year end episode where we sort of
neutralize our guests to be one of the one of
the crew.

Speaker 6 (02:19:32):
One of us flattered to get the harm alcohol.

Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
This is the most sober episode besides Unpaid Bill. This
is the most sober episode that we've had so far.
But anyway, but thank you for joining us.

Speaker 9 (02:19:46):
Guys, have a safe thank you for bringing us joy
and last holiday.

Speaker 1 (02:19:50):
Yes, all right, so i'na be happy like sugar. Steve Fan,
take a loo. I'm paid, Bill and Jason Sudgas is
much love and we will see you next year for
the next go round a quest Love Supreme. Thank you, yo.
What's up? This is Sponte.

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