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April 29, 2020 42 mins

John Legend stops by the first QLS Live to talk about current events and his upcoming album.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Course Love Supreme. It's a production of iHeartRadio. Ladies and gentlemen,
this is Quarantine Quest broadcasting live from the Kabbutz Upstate
New York. We welcome you to shall we say So
one's special version of QLs because the current COVID nineteen
reality we're living in the present not exactly idea conditions

(00:23):
with technology. Let's say we had slight issues with this
particular recording of John Legend this episode, but we promised
you guys that we're going to record a proper sequel
in the future, so we could deep die with all
those questions. But for now, please enjoy our conversation with
one and only John Legend or Quest Love Supreme.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Let's do it, Hi, Supreme, Supreme, Supreme, Supreme.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Supreme. Latency has kicked in.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
My name is a mirror, not when I'm now realizing
this roll call has to end first, As as you see,
ladies and gentlemen, we we did not even bothered to

(01:36):
practice to see what if we would have latency issues.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
It doesn't work. I've tried this music thing over the
zoom call does not work.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
That was a roll call fail.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Like I heard, I was getting my freestyle ready to.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Brown and that what you what you drinking on?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's actually pink. It's my rose.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Rose, you mean your rose?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Like make me like I'm the proprietor.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Uh. We have l v E.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
We have rose, we have.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Cabernet.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know what's it called?

Speaker 4 (02:19):
You know, l v E Legend Beingard Exclusives, l v
E wines dot Com.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
You haven't made it. I'm done.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's the show.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I make money on it.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Just so you know.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Everybody, So, how the beards going in nicely?

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Oh? Yeah, I'm trying to join the roots.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
You truly lived in Philadelphia. Yeah, I can't wait for
a month from now to see how everyone's grooming.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
We all gonna look like Tom Hanks and castaways.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Glad all of y'all have y'all hairlines? Look at that
beautiful hairlines.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Steve Man, Steve is the new quest Love of the
Crew Reality. So John, thank you for joining our second
live show of course Love Supreme here on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Thank you. I was well, Yeah, I want to know,
how are you coping or making the most of this
time period?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Well, my kids are probably happier than ever because we
are home and we are hanging out with them all
the time.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
And are they holding you hostage right now? Are you
eating a ransom? Note?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
They are napping right now.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I'm so lucky because otherwise maybe all over the house,
Luna likes to get in my zoom, calls, say hi
to everybody, whistle, whatever she can do to get your attention.
And yeah, they're non stop except when they're sleeping. So
this is a lucky rest.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
This is the best.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Y'all started this whole kind of I G programming over
in your house, like I feel like after you guys
started singing songs live.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
And then when we were early uh, we had talked
to Chris Martin.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
My team and his team at the same time basically
had the same idea, we should start doing these IG
live concerts. And then we we both are affiliated with
Global Citizens, so we started working with them to get
the message out about staying home and raising money for
the World Health Organization. And he started it on the
Monday after everybody was in and I did it the

(04:32):
next day and it's just blossomed. We you know, Quest
DJ and D nine DJ, and we've seen so many
battles with the different producers and whatnot. You know, I
feel like we've gotten a lot of interesting content out
of this dope dope.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
So what is your what are your? I guess your your?
I know everyone's winging this at the same time, but yeah,
what's coming up next for you? Because you know we
are it.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
But we had music, so that was actually the fortunate
thing about the timing was that we basically had finished
the album for all intents and purposes right prior to
everything happening.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
So there was just a few more.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Like horns and random you know, overdubs we had to do,
but I had done all my vocals, the songs were written,
so we have music ready to go. We've been releasing
a couple songs already and then we have more coming soon.
And we hoped to put the holbum out in June,
but you know, we were supposed to tour in July
in Europe and then in the US and Canada in

(05:39):
August and September, and we don't know, we don't know
what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Be considered the bad due method. I mean, you're in
a position which you know you could be self contained
and just do it for delf. Would you ever consider
just hosting perform is just you yourself alone at your piano.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I've done similar shows like that.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I used to do. We did this thing called the
All of Me Tour, was just basically me and a
couple other players, and it was most of the night
was me just telling stories and singing on the piano.
And so I'm definitely open to doing other shows like that,
but I'm not open to putting people in a room
together right now until we can do it safely. I'm

(06:27):
not trying to get people sick to come to the
John Legend Show because you read the news about you know,
people getting sick going to church, people getting sick, doing
all these other things, and we need to get to
the point where it's safe for people to even gather
like that before we can invite them into our shows
and expect them to show up.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, I was going to say, I don't you know,
I know that a lot of people are kind of
defiantly trying to go to church. Don't do it Sunday
for Eastern They.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I was just listening to the news from last night
and Rachel Matta was going through the list of how
many vectors of infection have been literally at church alone.
She was just talking about how they can identify these
big clusters from people going to church, and they say,
I read another article they were saying something about singing

(07:22):
is more it was viral.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, it's more viral than just being around.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Somebody because you're crazy, you're pushing out your saliva and
all these other things, and so it's actually less safe
to be singing around people than it is to just
be around them in general.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
So it's it's like, you can't be going to church
in those circumstances.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, I agree with you, but yeah, it's just it's
killing me watching people's reactions because you know, most of
them just like you know, I got the blood of
Jesus covering me. Yeah, no, he'll be protected.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
And now the black numbers have come up this week,
crazy and a lot of our favorite cities.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
And that's a problem, Yes it is. And we are
we are the we all of us are equally susceptible
to the disease. But when you have a community that's
already underserved in so many other ways, we are more
susceptible to getting the worst of it, to dying, to
having really severe outcomes.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Out of it.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
In my mind, I imagine that you and I and
Christy watched the well, we we in this house, so
we watched the Daily briefing.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
It's just we got to know some things.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
You don't watch it. I've watched zero.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Angers like on the daily because I know you.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Like. Christy's rule is she does not listen to Trump's voice.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Okay, she will not if he's on the news, even
if he's on the news of an anchor that she likes,
she doesn't want to hear his voice, and we will
change the channel off his voice comes on.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
What about doctor Fauci?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Though, I feel like I could read it later, and
Rachel Rachel Maddow summarizes it for me well enough, so
I'm like, I'll just listen to Rachel yog.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's to the point where now even I mean, you know,
normally I would watch matt Ow without fail because you know,
but this this will be my second week without watching. Yeah,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
You know, I'm one of those people that, like I
would always not watch the news if there was like
a disaster or any kind of thing where the press
was all kind of even even like a shooting, like
I couldn't watch it because I don't like I don't
like everybody gathering around a tragedy on the news, Like
I just something about my personality. I don't enjoy that

(09:40):
as news. I don't like it. I don't like being
around it. But for some reason, I've been watching this
because I do actually want to know what's going on.
And it's such a political story too, because it's about
leadership and it's about how leadership organizes people around a crisis,
and I think that's the thing that interests me about it.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Wow, one day I'll jump back into the fray, But now,
just from my mental health.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
No, I get it.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
That's how I am about most me and these chickens
on this forum. Man, I'm happy.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Can I just ask you and Fante a question real quick?
Since y'all are both a part of one of my
favorite shows on TV? Yeah, can we talk about Sherman
Showcase real quick?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yes, let's talk about it, okay, and what's going on?

Speaker 5 (10:29):
You know, I'm just you know, I'm just let.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, Fante, you want to tell her what we filmed
a couple of Yeah, Man, so we got a Black
History Month special, which, in Negro fashion.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Is coming late in June.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
During Black Music Man, we got it we shot it.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
We shot it in January, and I have I still
haven't seen the whole joint.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Diallo was kind of telling.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Me, Nope, I've seen that edits it looks great.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
Yeah, he said it's amazing. He said, he really is dope.
So yeah, I'm looking forward to that. That's coming June
and Sherman showcases on Hulu and Hulu just announced like
free subscription or free trials.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, check it now.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
From my.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
No, but everybody else in Mirror does not working every
night like you are.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
And and we were in the scene together, Me and
John did one scene together.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
With Trek and Iron, but we're the master at the time.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
And loaf of Jesus. Now, the show is the most
well reviewed thing we've ever done as a production company.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I've never seen so many great reviews for something we've done.
The New York Times, all these other lists you know
what to watch while you're one, like the shows on
all those lists too. So hopefully people will give it
a chance, because I think once you get into the world,
you really get into it.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
I just I don't want to discount, though, your other
show that you had on wg.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
N Yes Underground, Y, Yes, What to deal with Underground.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Now we couldn't bring it back.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
You know, the station was getting bought by that conservative
news organization, Saint Claire. Yeah, so they were buying the
station and they decided to go in a whole nother direction.
Even though we were the most popular show and got
the most buzz for the network of any show that
they had on, they decided to go in a different direction.
They're the same organization that bought all those local news stations,

(12:32):
do you remember.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
That to do the Yeah, the news reporters, the news.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Reporters all reading the same script. Yeah, So they're the
same organization. So we didn't have much of a chance
to stay around. We tried to sell it to other
networks and it's it was a bit of an expensive
show to produce, and so a lot of networks didn't
want to take it because it was kind of like
secondhand and they didn't want to spend all that money
making a secondhand show.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
But as a show producer, how do you like, how
do you how do you figure that's different than music
working on music and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Well, it's less hands on for me because you're leaving
it in the other creator's hands. So you have writers,
You have directors, you have all these other people that
are involved, and they hopefully you hire people and you
work with people that are really good at what they do,
and so it's not nearly as hands on as I
would be on my own record. I feel like it's

(13:30):
mostly about making good personnel decisions and then picking good
projects to be part of creatively.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Are you going to.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Organized the music? Music is a wild wild West?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
It is.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Music is.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Yeah, you might get paid, you might not like TV everybody.
It ain't no such thing as doing some off like
you're gonna get a check.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
TV is better organized, Films better organized. Hollywood's just more
like corporate than the music world is.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Now, what is theater not.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Theater? Well, the theaters have the strong unions though, you know,
so there's a lot of rules around how you do
things in the theater too. The unions are very strong
and so there's a lot of structure around that, and
so I feel like that's pretty you know, it's pretty
on point as well.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Wow, you know, I have a wish to see the
I mean, you can weigh in on this bill or not.
I mean, at the beginning of in the Heights in Hamilton,
like did you feel as though, you know, the system
was pretty much stuck in its ways? Whatnot?

Speaker 8 (14:47):
Funny too, I didn't know what the fuck the system
was or which way it was stuck in it, But yeah,
something like that, I don't know. To me, theater has
the worst business plan ever. If it's a success, then
you make money. If it's anything success, it's a total disaster.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, I see, I see.

Speaker 8 (15:06):
So it's a shitty business plan. It's a shitty business
plan there is. It's either you invest millions of dollars
and only if you're a humongous success do you make
the money back. If you don't, then it's a failure.
Just the business plan doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
So there's no middle ground.

Speaker 7 (15:20):
There's no such thing as a moderately successful theater show.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, well just think about just think about real estate
in New York.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
And so part of it is you have to occupy
and pay for this real estate in New York and
get people to show up, and then you have to
pay everybody's salaries and everything based on the union you know, scale,
and it's just the the original baseline nut that you
have to pay for is a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I'm scared to place starts in November, and like this
isn't like you know where you just put a little
bit of money and then your producer like, we're really
funding this joint so that but a mirror.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Are you fearful now?

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Because I mean not to put that on you, but
when are people going to feel comfortable and in theaters
and in New York and broad in New York and Broadway.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
The thing is is that you know, we after taking
a queue from Hamilton to see how radical that was.
I mean, I just have this desire to really update Broadway.
Broadways somehow stuck between this this post timpan Alley jazz

(16:40):
hands kind of Broadway like that that kind of era
where you know it could really use a refresh or redo.
And you know, based on did you see and did
you see in Tarik's uh like any of the practice

(17:04):
I haven't. It's it's like it's it's just as mind
blowing to me is as Hamilton, but it's like the
complete opposite where you don't feel good about any of
the characters. It's like if Obama, if if Hamilton represented
everything that was beautiful about the Obama era, then this
is the trade for the play for the Trump era

(17:27):
and post and the thing was they wrote this, you know,
during like the beginning of obama second term as a
as a kind of a a satire. But it's just
like it's real now, which makes it even more on point.
So it is like idiocracy, dude, it's it's it's idiocracy

(17:47):
the play. That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Like.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
People are mind blowing, but it's black no more, okay,
it's It's based on one of the very John Ridley,
who did Twelve Years of Slave.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, I know, John right.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
He wrote this back in twenty twelve, came to Tarik
around twenty thirteen, and they developed at the last four years.
It's a scathing play. It's amazing, but no one's going
to feel good about themselves.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
They won't be congratulating themselves for going no, but I
mean yeah, I mean, the guilty aspect of it is
going to like it's a real It's a play about
kind of in the Harlem speakeasy era of Harlem, a
black man who.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Meets a white girl a speakeasy who you know, they
flirt and whatnot, and she's sort of like, you know,
this ain't going any further than this basement because you know,
I could never take you home to my father, YadA, YadA, YadA.
And this guy wishes kind of wishes that there was
a way that she could fall in love of them,

(19:00):
and he gets some sort of operation. This is based
on a book. He gets a he goes through a
process that turns him into a white man.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
And then reverse, which is like soul Man in reverse.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
This, this book was written in nineteen thirty six as
a sat tire.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
And Eddie Murphy's SNL.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
It's very much like that skit. Yeah, he just hits
the fan even crazier. So yeah, yeah, so yeah, let's
rack up the Tony's Let's go all of y'all get this.
Got ghet him man, you get him? You get it?

(19:50):
The single is out now where streaming on now? Correct?

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
So we have two singles out, once called Conversations in
the Dark. We put that out in January and then
Actions is the one wh just put out a couple
of weeks ago. You played it on your online Instagram
Love the Other Night.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Do you have a title for the upcoming record yet?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, it's called Bigger Love, and the next single is
gonna be the title track called Bigger love and then.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
And we got joints. Man, I'm excited. I did.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Raphael Sadiq exec produced the whole thing. He's done my
last couple albums, exec producing wise for the Christmas Album
and the Christmas Deluxe, and we were just in the
nice groove and we just kept working together on this.
But I worked with other producers and writers and uh
Oak produced the last single actions Oakfelder. He produced another

(20:42):
one on my album that's really crazy called Oulah and yeah,
we've got some good stuff on there. Do you record
at the crib? John, and you still go to the studio?

Speaker 4 (20:51):
I still go to the studio because I like to
feel like I'm going to work.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I like to leave the house, be away from the kids,
go to work, and then come home and be present
with the family.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I did it. What studio did you record out of?

Speaker 4 (21:05):
At Raphael's Blakesley up in North Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Is Jerry still his engineer?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Jerry still mixed with the Christmas lights.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, so Jerry mixed this.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
This guy named Alex is the recording engineer, but Jerry mix.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah. Raphael's dude, Jerry like this atmospherical like Christmas. So
he always even when he is not at his studio
ahead of time, he'll send like all this this Christmas
decorations to the studio to get set up and he
wants it to look like Christmas when he's mixing. So
he's been doing that for like the last thirty years

(21:41):
with Rafael.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
His first record he did for me was My Christmas
Album though how perfect?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
I thought he had it in there just for the
for the best of music.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Nah, Jerry uh engineer what they do on illadel faf Life,
And was like, we had to wait an hour for
him to get like the Christmas decorations up. Now he's
been doing that forever. He's been doing that forever.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
John, I always wanted to ask, you, man, who is Maxine?
Because she had you going down through that bro.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Oh you know what max was truth?

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Really this?

Speaker 4 (22:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I was writing that song with the guys from Sarah Yeah.
Uh so you know, the whole crew, including O Mas
and Taz and everybody. So we're we're in l a
at there they had that house studio in Los Felis
or somewhere around there, Silver late and we were.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Just hanging out and we were writing the song and
I had just listened to Guess who I saw today,
my love Nancy Wilson.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
So, Nancy used to sing that song, and it was
about it kind of goes through the whole story of
you know, I was hanging out at this lovely bar and.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
Blah blah blah, and I saw this beautiful couple and
blah blah.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Blah, and oh it was your Nigga.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
Jones.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
And so I had listened to that not long before that,
and we were we were just singing. Uh, we were
just playing around on the instruments, and I started singing,
she may.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Not be you, but she looks just like you, and
we wrote.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I was like, we should write a song kind of
in that same lyrical vein where I described this whole
setup of these two beautiful people hanging out with each
other looking like they're so in love.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
And it was her the whole time I'm like, she
may not be you was.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
She looked awful lot like you. And then uh, we
decided at the end we should call her name.

Speaker 9 (23:52):
And we just made up a name that sounded good, Maxine,
and so every Maxine the age of sixty, and.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
We wanted it to sound quaint and like old school
and then.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
It turns out, and I did not notice at the
time my grandmother's middle name is Maxine, and so she
thought I had written it Maxine because of her name,
but I had no idea that was her middle name
at the time.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
You don't wing it. I love that song.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
I love that record, that who once again out here
that's I love it once again.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
It is my favorite, Like, it's one of my favorite
things I've done. Wake Up is one of them too,
when I did with the Roots and then h once Again,
it is like my heart, I don't know, that's my
favorite one.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
That's yeah, it showed me's on there.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
That's a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Hey, John, Yeah, Diet has a question over there.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
It's me, sugar.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Have you written any new songs since the quarantine started?

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Anything at home? I have not, And part of it,
I think is just kind of feeling like, oh, I'm
done with my album and I can relax for a
while and have to write something. But also I don't
like writing at home, so it's the perfect storm of
me not getting anything done at home.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
So wait a minute, when you're home, that's not your
creative hub at all.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
No, I almost never write at home. I like to
schedule time go in.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Sometimes I'll sing stuff into my phone at home, like,
oh I have an idea. I'm almost singing this into
my phone and then finish it at the studio because
I like to go towards.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Your separation of church and state. I get it, because,
if anything, I would figure that this time period is
probably the best time period for all songwriters and all
screenwriters and book writers like, but it's really not.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Though if you have kids, if you don't have kids,
maybe if you don't have.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Kids, maybe so you just can't get three hours of
complete doing shit.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oh hell no.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
So the middle road is just hell nah too. And
we got one of those home ship dually know it,
about to buy a crib, won't have a separate batcave
for myself. I got it now, Okay, I get it.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
I just don't think now, like in the middle of
what everybody dealing with, just the stress of the pandemic,
I don't think that really lends itself.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
To creativity very much, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (26:32):
So much of at least for me, so much of
what you pull from comes from outside sources.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Either.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
You know, if you go out and you see a
couple and you think something or you you know, you
kind of go out and pull from these different experiences
when you.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Don't really have that anymore.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
And on top of not having that, but you're constantly
watching people that you know or or know of get
or die.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
I mean, I ain't thinking about no goddamn rap music,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's just realizing.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
I think some people will will be inspired by and
write some dope ship from it. It will it will
fit into certain people's style of writing and their worldview,
and it'll it'll propel them to write some dope stuff.
I really believe that's possible. But it's just it ain't
inspired me at all.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Don't making me feel bad now, man, I'm like, I
don't know five chapters. No, I got dude, having kids
like I got responsibility. I know it's not the same
as having kids.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Single people. I mean, I'm just saying, but I also
know that when you have two children in the home
every day, all day, that's the different situation. And I
appreciate my privilege.

Speaker 7 (27:46):
Yeah, I think when you, I think, maybe why you
kind of getting stuff done in that way is because
you've finally been now, so you know, you would writing
and stuff like that. It's like, I, you know, you
finally have a chance to really buckle down and do it,
all right, and which is different than a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
But I'm just not feeling like writing songs right now.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
You're thinking about writing a book and at some.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Point in the future.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
I had always thought about it, but I I have
to at some point.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
But you right one on finance, John Legend, No.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
I'm not enough.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Seriously, John, Save everything, Like, don't you know, save everything?
Just put in storage what like it'll you'll need it.
You'll need it for your memoir. Trust me.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
I got to write one at some point.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
There's stuff I wish I saved for, you know, memoirs
that notes that I wrote old lyrics, sheet to that
sort of thing.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
Save everything, yo, all right. So two questions. One, is
there a full version of Angel with you and Stacey?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yes there is.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
We put it on her It was on her record EP. Yes,
we put it on Stacey's EP. Stacy Bart she's a
dope singer and songwriter. She's written a lot of songs
for big artists, and she was signed to my production
company for a while as an artist, and she put
out a couple of EPs and we had her guest

(29:21):
on Love in the Future.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
We did a short version of Angel on.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
That's my favorite version.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
One.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, so that's on if you you can find it.
But Stacey put it on her EP.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
And also Okay, Segie Poison hold on Longer, talk to
me about that one.

Speaker 10 (29:41):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
For the song that was Oh that was font LeRoy's idea.
So he wrote a couple of those songs with us,
and uh, you know, you know his zone. It was
right in his zone.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
He wrote a couple of those type of joints with
us for the album.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I love that record, man.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
And also since it's Q Tip's birthday tomorrow, talk about.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Don't Wait till to.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
That was me and Kanye is like sleeper favorite on
the album because Kanye was exect producing that album. And
I went in over to Kamal's house in Jersey and
we just jammed for a little while and we came
up with that song, and that's our sleeper favorite on

(30:26):
Love in the Future. It didn't get a lot of buzz,
but it's something about it, just that group.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
It's a good step for song too.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
I have a question.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yes, in the wake of Bill Withers passing and your
great re recording of his his song I can't right
left handed?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Can you just comment on the recording of that song?

Speaker 4 (30:47):
And yeah, here's one of the things I did say, question,
where's that email? I have it. I'm gonna pull it
up right now, hold on.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Like, did I imagine an email? Did I make that up?

Speaker 10 (31:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:02):
He wrote it for real. I resent it to my
manager and that was with me back then, and he
had sent it to me.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
This is from October sixth, twenty ten, and here's an
email from Bill Withers. I'm gonna read it to y'all.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Exclusive exclusive.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Alex.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Some time ago, you contacted Marsha regarding John Legend's recently
recorded album and offered to introduce her to Greg, one
of the guys who managed me at the time. She
probably attempted to forward the message to me or meant
to afford it to me. Quite possibly. It was doing
one of those periods where I was in Marsha, Alex
and everyone else overload and just ignored all incoming information

(31:52):
for a while. Anyway, I just found out about the
John Legend recording yesterday and a much more interesting fashion.
Having sat down to watch a documentary on Louis Armstrong.
The phone rang fifteen minutes into it and the voice
on the other end says, in this stilted tone, did
I awaken you, sir?

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Just as I was about to hang up on whoever
this clown.

Speaker 10 (32:14):
Was, the voice said Bill Withers, this is William Felton Russell,
which of course was followed by the unmistakable cackle of
Bill Russell laughing on the other end of the line.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
He then proceeded to read me the titles of.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
The songs on a John Legend album that he was
listening to and informed me that I can't right left hand.
It was included in the list of songs that were
recorded with the Roots band for the album. We then
proceeded to share stories of the people that it had
impacted our lives, such as Jackie Robinson, Joe Lewis, Jesse Owens, etc.
We continued on to have the obligatory conversation about Obama

(32:53):
and whatever else two seventy plus year olds ilk might
run their mouths about in catch up conversations. An hour
and a half later, having purged ourselves of all current
topics worthy of chit chat for the moment we ended
our conversation, I hit play to resume watching the Louis
Armstrong tape as I digested the conversation that I had
just had with my old friend and lifelong he wrote.

(33:15):
When the Louis Armstrong story finished, I went to my
computer and watched the session with John and the Roots
on YouTube. While digesting the pleasure of witnessing the heartfelt
and caring interpretation of this song by John and the
Band that Ray Jackson and I had written probably before
he and most of the band were born, it occurred
to me that it had indeed been a day spent

(33:38):
in the company of legends, conversation about legends with the legend,
while watching the story of a legend capped off by
the flattery of John Legend taking the time to revisit
and revive an old song written with a dear friend
what had actually gotten me into the music business and
who left us much too soon.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Ray Jackson passed away some years ago.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I'm sure that Ray Jackson would have joined me in
thanking John and the Roots for their attention to this
song and the congratulating them on a job well done.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Since they put me in such a.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Good mood, I will find it in my heart to
not hold a grudge against Questlove for making me sound
so ancient. In his otherwise flattering, introductory and explanatory comments
on the video smiles.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
I was further sued by the fact that Bill Russell
is really old.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Congratulations to John appropriately named legend for all the work
he does in education and for projecting a good, wholesome
image for us all to appreciate. I would appreciate it
if you, whoever you is, would share this letter with
John and the Roots.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
I would further advise you to avoid contact with me
in the future if.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
You don't rendered grumpy by the rare rainy, cloudy, yucky
weather here in La today, but boyd revived and sustained
by my day with the Legends yesterday. Bill Withers, Wow,
that's a letter.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
This dude can tell A sorry man, Yo. He's the
musical uncle we never had his emails.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
His emails were legendary because every time he wrote one,
he had all those extra little colors and flavors in
there that you normally I'm just like a yes, because
I'm always like approving something.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Like Okay, great, nice thanks.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
He would write such such great emails. Wow. Man.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, when when he when he came to the show, Yeah,
to see his performance, he was just it was everything
I ever wanted. And that was the point in which like,
I was really kind of not you know, I was
a little gun shy with meeting idols by that point
because so many had let me down before. Yeah, but

(35:51):
he lived up to everything. Like he was full of stories,
like and humor and seemed like he did not seem
or act like he was in his seventies. I thought
he was like, oh he might be fifty nine, maybe
sixty maybe. Yeah, that's one of my regrets, man, Like

(36:13):
I was, I was gunning for him for at least
twelve years to try to try to work with him.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
But Yo, so he heard he heard the live version
of that too. That was the first thing you heard
was the YouTube. We had made a YouTube video. I
think that was actually in the studio. It was like
one of those promo things we shot in the studio,
but it was a live performance though. It was like
it wasn't like edited, it was you know, it was

(36:40):
a straight up live performance, but there was an audience there.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, And Oh, I forgot. We did something with Spike
Lee as well.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
I told you about about that that thing in the
one of those buildings in New York something five terminal
five shot five.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
John, You know how long we've been trying to get
this to happen. You know this is just a preview, right,
like you know at some point when we all come
back together in real life.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
This is not the room love that. Yeah, That's why
I'm not asking like the questions I normally ask request
because I'm trying to say that for the real episode.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Well, just in case we don't get the real lepisode
and I got another music, we'll get.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
It, all right, So I'm gonna be there. I don't know, Hey,
we all might not be there all right.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
So hey, your first uh on again on once again?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Uh huh.

Speaker 7 (37:32):
The leak version of it was just acoustic, and then
the album version you added.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Drums and what made you change? Oh? No, I mean
I had always thought we were gonna put a little
instrumentation on it. So sometimes I'll record a demo of
it and I don't know who leaked it. I'm trying
to remember how that came out. Also did a version
on Death poetry Jam. They kind of let me half
sing sing, half sing on death pet you John. That

(38:00):
was the first time anybody actually heard any of it
was on the fork And remember that.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
I mean I didn't miss that my first time hearing it.
It was the leak version.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
Yeah, this is back when albums would leak, you know
what I mean, the album Eleak and that version of Again.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
It was just it was just you and piano.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
And I'm not even sure if I knew it leaked. Honestly,
I'm not even sure just even piano.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
That's crazy. Yeah, now I gotta go back and revisit.
Thank you. That's a goblet of like South Carolina, North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
This is What's up? What's up?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Steve is again that joined you samples for doing it again?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, that's again. Okay.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
I was singing in my head and doing it again,
yes again.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah. And then I had another song on a record
called another again again.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
John.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
I still remember that first album where you were sing
the beach in your Lena outfit when you were back
in the Philly days.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah. I still have to actually wait, did you sang
because that the early record even before uh, your first
album is up your version of Burning Down the House.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Yeah, so that was when we did live at UH
S O B S O B S.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah. Yeah, I was from like oh two, I think.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I got my deal in a four, So it was,
you know, a couple of years before everything popped off.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
I remember listening to that. You had that album, you
were selling it. This is back in like old three.
It was a little brother and Kanye.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
We was on tour together. Yeah, we did the Norfolk
and yeah, I remember them in Norfolk, yeah, yeah, and
we were selling that joint and I remember those shows man,
And I remember I would sell those CDs out of
my you know, out of my trunk, you know, every
everywhere we would go. I would do gigs in uh
New York and Philly by myself for a while. I

(40:35):
would play it like S O B. S and UH
Knitting Factory, north By, Northwest fire Spot all these places
UH in Philly and New York and.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
UH and I would just sell them.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
And and I was my own web person, so I
would like I didn't program the site, but I would uh,
I would.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
I would handle all.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
The CD seal so I would be like chipping them
off to people I would go to the post office
every couple of days and ship some more CDs off
the people that order them online. Can you believe we
actually buy CDs their.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Own distribution something?

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I feel like it's time for a sequel now, John,
where we are like, we we.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Gotta do it. We gotta do it. We always say
we gotta do it, but we.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Gotta do it. Wait which sequel?

Speaker 5 (41:21):
Y'all get together making music.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
The roots and the roots coming back.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, real protest songs man. Yeah, man, I like that.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
I like the y'all vow to do that on tape
right here in front of everybody.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah, we really need to do it.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I mean all we do is work. So as long
a time a collaborator that's willing and shows up, let's work.
I'm down, you know what I'm saying. Now, Thank you,
Thank you, John. I appreciate you doing our U our
live YouTube uh broadcast of course, Love Supreme. I want

(41:59):
to be Layah Ship, Steve Unpaid, Bill Fan Diagelo and
John Legend. Thank you very much. This is a quest
Love Supreme. We'll see you on the next show.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Now see everybody.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Thanks well, y'all right, M.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
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