QLS Classic: 2017 Year in Review with Roy Wood Jr.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of Course Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio.
This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Hey,
it's Sugar, Steve and This classic QULS episode takes us
back to December two thousand seventeen. Comedian and actor Roy
Wood Jr. Looks back on the roller coaster year that
was seventeen with Quest Love and Team Supreme. Where were you?

(00:27):
I gotta take one. I'm long as eight balls, I Beta,
Suprema role call, Subrema su Suprema rod called Suprema, Subprema
road called Suprema two thousand seventeen. It is over. Yeah,

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not a moment too late. Yeah, I'm gonna have a
better life. Yeah too, Suprema road calla ro call. My
name is Fonte. Yeah you know I got it? Yeah,
I and why Yeah, black people ain't patriotic. Subrema road call,

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Subrema Subrema road call. My name is Sugar. Yeah. Happy
New Year to you. Yeah and happy hanakah. Yeah. Sure
Suprema Surema road called school. Can't believe Yeah that this

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year is done. Yeah, it seems like yesterday was January one.
M Sufrema road called sub Prima Suma roll call. What
a year. Yeah, too much the same. Yeah, she's gotta
have it. Yeah, I thought I wanted to say that

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name is Roy. Yeah, I'm from Alabama. Yeah, I'm celebrating
Kuanza even though I don't know what their quansa is.
Roll some prima ro call suprema call U wait a minute, okay,

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because it's hard for me to hear myself. It was
like a table of contents Part one opin. Really it
was that loud. I'm apologizing to Spike Lee and everybody
at the cast if she's got to have it. No,
I didn't like in my head, it was like getting sounds. Yeah,
I thought I was doing it off Mike. It was

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cue there we go. Ye would you like to finish
your I got you know, Okay, she got to have it,
like I remember. Right now, Welcome to Quest Love Supreme
V Annual Our second Uh the Cougie choolea episode. That's
what that kin whatever, that's that's the day. That's actual.

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Can white people celebrate? Yes they can. It's funny you
ask Dad Roy, who's the voice expert. Ladies and gentlemen,
First of all, we'd like to thank you for tuning
in and right now we have a friend dropping by
on us unexpectedly. Very funny guy, very extremely funny. I mean, well,

(03:46):
I first hearded you from the foxhold. But you've had
history that with the prank calls. Yeah, exactly. I used
to listen, even pre YouTube or whatever like, used to listen.
We used to listen to forward. Is that email forwards?
That's when you went viral in two thousand two? For
I mean, now you could just go and YouTube listen

(04:07):
to things that are pre YouTube days. Oh yeah, it's
long ago, but dark. We used to listen to those
print calls a lot on the tour of bus Anyway,
Daily Show, Last Comic Standing. So many you've done Conan
a lot also, Um, shout out to Conan man. He
used to work. He used to give me work when

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nobody else would. Exactly. Yes, he looked out for the cookout.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome one of our favorite comedians,
Roy Wood Jr. Cryingham and Alabama's own Yeah man, So Alabama,
I'm sorry about all the drum Alabama college, y'all. This
year white folks are they ride horses to the polls

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and they talk about gay people in slavery, and they
bring their guns. Yeah, to just to to a speech,
Just bring a gun. I'm Roy More. I got a
gun just in case pistol. So Roy Okay, So we'd
be remissed if we didn't say that. Uh. Of course
we tape some episodes of Quest of Supreme rather weeks

(05:09):
of events of us going on the air. But this
particular taping, we are kind of awaiting the results. Well,
I don't know if we're awaiting the results of of
of the well, I mean, but do we kind of
know how it's gonna go. I mean, you have hope.

(05:30):
I got to a little bit. I got to I
know a lot of black folks in Bama. I'm hoping
that you know, as the great philosopher the Game once
told us, you don't have to do anything's possible if
FIFA hated the underdogs on the top. Yea. So we

(05:59):
was talking outside. So you gotta break it down for
the for the audience what it is with um I
don't really like as a black person. Yeah, I'm the
Democrat and I locked up the clan. That's what he's
running on, Like it's he ran on this platform that
he was one of the people who prosecuted two of
the last living clans members who bombed the sixteen Street

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Baptist Church back in the sixties. But the truth of
the matter is that it wasn't like he crusaded too.
We gotta reopen this case, gut damn it. I know
that can lock him up. No, the FBI reopened the
sixteenth Street bombing, and Doug Jones was the dude at
the time, like, Yo, you're the person in the office
that does this type of ship, So go prosecute this dude.

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And they locked the clansman up and now he's hanging
his hat on that and that's fine what you do.
He wasn't actively pursuing it like this was nineteen he
prosecuted this dude and like the late nineties, don't hand
like it was night not. The church wasn't still smoldering
when you marched into the damn porthouse? Yeah did it?
Wh Muddy Waters came out. Clansmen died like two months

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after he got locked up. He was old, so don't
And I just feel like this I was telling to
tell you outside is that you know, as a white dude,
he didn't properly crusade for black justice because they never
gave him his movie. You're a white man and you
get Black Justice, you're supposed to get your movie. He
didn't get this movie. If he was he getting the movie,

(07:37):
I don't know, Like how low does your steam have
to be? If a child molester beat you, you gotta
get you gotta leave the game. Mean, yeah, we got
bigger fish process. So you could ask killer that question.
That's where and that's where we are from from the

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top down. Seven seen everybody. That's how I started with Trump.
This dude said, I dated some girls that might have
been teenagers, but I got their mammies permission. He said
America was good back when it was still slavery. He
said being gay should be illegal. He showed up to

(08:19):
the polls to vote on a horse. If you lose
to that dude, you have to get out of politics. Okay,
so you just gotta get out the game. Bro, if
this is not for you, I'm not I'm not trying
to piggyback off of Uh. I haven't recently just found
out my entire family comes from Alabama. I'm now like

(08:42):
sort of taking interest in Alabama jokes. And no, I'm
just saying that. You know, before I could ignore Alabama. Okay, y'all,
y'all gave us the Commodores. Who else? I mean, I
mean no, I'm just in general. It's like, I mean,

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do we really as Northerners, I mean, as Northerners, we've
always had this reputation of of being snooty and and
above it, a sort of looking down at our southern counterparts.
But you know, only, yes, I understand that we we
should all the commodorees. You're still on that. We also

(09:28):
gave y'all Beyonce's mama, Wheeziana, my mama Alabama, that my
Texas knows something something that's my country ground. I know that.
I mean that part. I mean, we was going off

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on New Kids on the Block last week. So okay,
all I'm saying is is is their hope for Alabama?
Is there hope? Yes? Yes? Are there any parts of
Alabama that seemed remotely Yes? Absolutely. So. I'm from Birmingham,

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So Birmingham is a blue county, deep blue county in
the middle of the red state. I think Montgomery is
a blue county as well. Birmingham just got a new mayor,
thirty six year old brother named Randall wood Fan and
this dude is all about changing everything. This brother came in.
Birmingham has had a black mayor since the seventies, but
it's always been an older guard sixty year over, seven
year overtype brothers who have a different ideology. So now

(10:35):
you have someone that's young. And the first thing he did,
literally the day after he was sworn in was fire
half of the old mayor staff. Like when you talk
about somebody serious about bringing in new blood and new
people from top to bottom, what's up man? You the janitor, Yeah,
I'm gonna need you to give me your mop. Bro,
we're gonna go on. Everybody got fired, so you have that.

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And then also in burn Bingham, Um, there's a Birmingham.
And I would argue this for the whole I know
for the state. It's a fact and I wonder I'd
love to check the numbers to see what it is nationally.
But we have nine black women sitting as judges on
the city and county level, which is important because it's
a predominantly black city where all the drug laws getting

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black people locked up. So when you're a black person
and you go in front of a black judge, these
black women, a lot of them are taking like all
of these different sentencing alternatives instead of just throwing a
negro away and locking them up and leaving them in
a rotten jail. Hey, I'm gonna give you the second chance,
but go get that high school diploma for me. Come
back and see me in a year. I think you
got the house of Hey, I will lock you up,

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but you know what, go to this drug rehab program,
treating drugs as a disease instead of just oh you
hold them, yeah exactly. So when you have people like
that doing stuff like that now, I think it's a
slow crawl. And if you look at Birmingham and what
it was twenty or thirty years ago, Negroes wasn't getting
that type of benevolence in the legal system. So it's
a start. I gotta say that it was. I was

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rather I was surprised we did like a show in
burning him, like maybe last year and was I mean,
I was thrown off by the tree that the willows.
I'm still that still scares the living mess out. Oh yeah,
I'm hanging trees. Yeah they're still up there. But uh,
it seems a little more forward than the rest of

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it was always what was overtly friendly, like to a
level that I wasn't used to almost you know what,
I blame that on no man, like I'm just being
It sounds like a cop out because I'm from the state,
but I just blame that on how to how the
South is portrayed more often than not in television and film,
especially Alabama. More often than not, if Alabama is the
focus of something, it's either some period piece from back

(12:52):
in the day where it's Nick nicka nigga and I'm
a savior and you get out of town boy, or
it's First forty eight like those are pretty much, yeah,
the only two options in terms of how Alabama's portrayed,
or some Forrest Gump Backwood type ships. Do you resent that?
I mean because even the urn Obama, like when we

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oh yeah every day. But I understand it because you
gotta dude down there who says gay people should be
in jail. Oh wait, Obama is a bad thing. I
didn't think. Oh yeah, it's like we turned the bad
into the good. Sometimes you could be a bad Bama,
but then there's a good Bama. Never knew like it

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was so bad, Like I wouldn't tell people I was
from Alabama. I would specifically say Birmingham so that it
didn't trigger the Obama in their head. But you're from Alabama,
Oh you Obama, and I can't get Richie's like straight
to the He was not saying he wouldn't say Alabama,
but he said, yeah, that's how we do, man. It's

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it's a it's an interesting place. So I just feel
like they're more progressive of parts of the city, which
is why it's important for me anytime I'm ountaing I'm
doing ship that I'm screaming Alabama at the top of
my lungs anytime I'm on television to make sure that
that people know that good ship can still that there's
still good ship coming out of the state. It ain't

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just wipe my funk on the horse and all fairness
to the South though, like how Birmingham is to Alabama,
Philly is to Pennsylvania. Like people don't know that. I mean,
and some of the largest journey has some of the
largest clan population in the in the country. So and
I'm just saying that, you know, I was surprised. I mean,

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I went there. We did a couple of shows there.
I think we was in did a couple of change shows,
and afterwards I took my boys to the to the
museum and we went to the sixteen the church and
that ship was just crazy just to be sitting there
and think like a bomb went off. Yeah, I was
literally standing in the same spot in the church. You

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know what's interesting though, like I don't know where in
North Carolina you all could have gone for like the
civil rights museums in the history and so it's like
Woolworth all that, the city and all that. So you
do the class field trips and all of that stuff.
When you're growing up. We went to so much historical
black stuff that in a way, when I grew up

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and I had the option of not going to a
lot of that stuff, I had to break it up.
Like even when like I was just you know, it's
just part of your it's part of your educational diet
down south. Is this happened to you. This is what
they did to us. Always remember never never forget it.
Never never. Like and before we moved when I was
um in the third grade, we lived in Memphis until

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the third grade. So we took a tour of Alex
Haley's house and they took us to all of the
civil rights spots, Lorraine Motel, the whole walking. So I
got to Birmingham. You're fed civil rights every single year.
Class movie is civil rights movies. So when I became older,
I was like, yeah, I gotta take like, I literally
need a break on some PTSD type ship. I can't

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absorb this. You haven't been to have you guys? Black?
Have you been? Haven't been? I gotta go. But they
say it's a four hour and you leave. So I
was about to say, for you, you need five hours
of processes and you wanta break it up in days.
I'm just saying for the burn. I understand what you're
saying now that that's a capital of civil rights. Is
so many things that happened there that you might want

(16:27):
to at the Smithsonian the one floor one day, the
next day, come back. So where I went before the Smithsonian.
Atlanta opened up a new museum in the past year
and a half and I went to that one, and
that was the one. Wife said, all right, I'll do
the Smithsonian. Smith That's that's ground zero. Yeah, But I
mean there's there's also ways to take a break. You know,

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Oprah has their theater in there. You can you can
watch you gotta do a guy because for him, like,
I'm certain that Timothy is gonna hold it down and
take him through. You know, everybody else who's listening who
don't have a Timothy, I would say something, But there's
guys there too, I mean, And that was an old
joke that I used to do. I talked about how
part of the problem with the Civil Rights Museum is

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that there's no one there to give you a hug
before you leave. So you leave, man, Can I tell
you the way that the Smithsonian is built? You started
the bottom, which is like middle passage, Yes, and so
you kind of start with a heavy weight boulder on
your back and you in the basement and then it
kind of it slowly gets better. But it's like the
second floor is Jim pro reconstruction. Third floors but victory

(17:37):
if you can make it floors like Obama like junk.
I was just guessing, yes, and it's weird. I've been
there maybe five times, but again you would have to

(17:58):
there's you don't. You won't have a complete experience there
unless you spend five hours, um V. The beginning, the
slave part. You're gonna be mayor for at least an hour.
And I know during Civil Rights you're gonna want to see.
They have a recreation of Emmett Till's funeral. They have

(18:18):
the casket, they have the church views. You walk up,
it's it's it's it's it's a line. It's like student
line for twenty five minutes to go pass. His casket
is open. And you should see when the white people
come through, like they got a little metamorphosis they go through.

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Time you get to a certain floor, it's like, I'm
a little contressed. As the Holocaust Museum like that as well, Steve.
That's when you come in, Um, somebody saying Holocausts. Yeah,
I'm sure it has to be reminiscing like the Anne Frank.

(19:02):
I mean, I've been to answer. I don't think you
should compare the two. It's kind of like this, you know.
I'm just because my question is I'm just like other
monuments and tragedy because it's I mean, you've been at
the Smithsonian, right, Yeah, Like I dude, I did not
know uh that for the longest Uh if we had

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to see doctors or anything. Uh veterinarians saw and they
showed they had work, right, and I didn't know that
black women weren't allowed to see gynecologists, so just the
torture devices they had to use for you to give
childbirth it that. So, I mean, by the time you

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get to the fourth floor and you see like Jay
Diller's thing and the Mothership connection and all that stuff,
and let's keep it all the way from it, ain't
no greater tragedy in this country than what happened to
black people. So it's kind of hard to compare Native
Americans continuously for the present day. Like I don't know
if it's been we're just asking, we're just asking if

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the other people's brief, you know, made into I won't
say commercialized, but are they exploited in that way. Well
I've never been to the Holocaust Museum, but I have
been to the nine eleven Museum, and I found that
to be really difficult and sort of but not not

(20:30):
difficult in the way that you're talking about. Yeah, and
you remember, No, I just find it to be like
commercialized in a way. It was it was like a show. Yeah,
they were sucking it's a fucking gift shop, you know,
or whatever. Like you know, it's like, yeah, there is
and and they're showing you know, fire department ship which

(20:52):
is cool or whatever, and you know, stuff like that
for the first responders. Like that theme, I guess, but
like it just it was like what am I like
a nine eleven key chain? Yeah, you know, like you know,
like it's like with the fire it's fucking crazy. You

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know what else I do sometimes like if I've decided
that a Black Struggle movie, or if I've decided that
a Black Struggle movie is gonna be too intense for
me and I just can't sit in the theater, I'll
fendango a ticket opening weekend and I will not go.
I will sit comfortably until that ship comes on the plane.

(21:41):
Or I can stream it somewhere and then watch it
in thirty minute intervals so that when I start feeling angry,
I'm halfway through it, wait, Marshall need because I'm like, what, Yeah,
it's I've seen Marshall. Yeah, I haven't seen that. I

(22:03):
don't even know that was because the end of Marshall,
y'all know what the mark I mean. I don't think
you're spoiling it because it's pre Supreme Court right, no no, no, no,
no no no no. At the end of Marshall. It's
like a moment where he takes on his next case,
of course, and the case is Treyvon his parents, Traymond

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Martin's parents, and they're like, it's like a period piece
and they have lines and stuff, and all of a
sudden you just end up crying. It's like Traybon's parents
and the lawyer because yeah, they're in the next case,
but they're dressed in their nineteen you know, sixties. It
was awesome. Yeah, civil rights movies, man, I love it
and we need them and they're essential. But it just
it just like Salm was the last one that I

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set in the theater, and its entirety. To watch the
rest of them, I find Dango and then I just
had to eat that ship in bite size chunks. It's
like watching them get Out, but that's not really black
scroll out like three sides, but that negro humming in

(23:05):
the middle of you. I'm talking about that they just
a white woman. Okay, So I guess since this is
our end of the year, Uh, of course, get Out

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is one of the major miracles of cinema. Shout out
to Joran Can I ask, though, do you think that
everyone got get Obviously Out, got Get Out, because there's
I mean, there's different levels to watch it on. Of course,

(23:47):
by the first week everyone was talking about the Easter
eggs and the hidden meanings. But I still think that
that it went over a lot of people's heads, like
they just saw it as a frothy horror film. It's
almost to the point where I actually think that even
the co stars, like I don't think that Allison truly

(24:09):
I didn't think she understands she knew what she was
getting into it, because I know that underneath all of that,
like I've been, Jordan's just so many levels of woke
on on on on the potent of the message. How
is he with his situation too? But okay with his situation.
He's married, so I don't know, he may he still

(24:31):
may get out whatever. You know what it's like to
be uncomfortable in a white family's house, I don't know.
I'm sure you don't. We don't get me in the
bed because I'm sorry. I'm not saying if you know.
I've seen it a few times. I saw in the
theater and then I saw it on I'm proud of you, Steve,

(24:54):
but tell me, tell me what potentially I'm I'm missing.
Uh yeah, back to the orige him a question. Did
white people get the same question? What's the down under
that it was the idea of the sunken place, the
idea of black bodies being controlled by white Uh yeah,

(25:16):
I mean there was a lot of underhanded symbolism in
there that I think just generally went over people's heads. Yeah,
I'm okay, but what what specifically? What he was? He
just he just broke it down? But was that for
white people? Were those parts of the film ever intended
for white people to get? Like the like the scene

(25:37):
where Daniel is tapping up Lkeith Stanfield and he goes
for the dap and l'keith gives him the handshake and
he knew right then something was right. I kind of
feel like the last that get Out was almost the
equivalent of the Rise of the Village people where you're

(26:00):
going the you know, they were America's favorite group. Everyone's
like not know that this is whole subculture we got
your kids thinking about exactly. That's That's what I feel
like get Out represented as in the message was so potent.
But well, I think it's something to that. I agree
because I saw it I saw three times. Ones I

(26:22):
I saw it like we was up there, so I
saw it once. The first time I saw it was
at Detroit. It was in Detroit. We was on tour.
It was at a theater in Detroit. I was about
to say, there's one theater in Detroity. It was the
one that's out. And I knew it was a black
theater because all the Ranch Salt was really I knew

(26:42):
the racial demographics already, so I'm like all the day
and Ranch gonna, yeah, it's niggas in here. So I
saw it there and then I saw it in Raleigh.
Uh me and my wife want to see it at
like the theater like in our neighborhoods. It was like
a lot of mostly white. So the thing that was
so telling in every time I saw it that at
the end when the police pull up or what we

(27:04):
think is the police, every black person in the theater
was like like that was the horror, Like, yeah, that's
the hard movie right there. Yeah, with a dead, a
bleeding white girl and the police show up. Nigga, that's horror.
He had a couple of those dog whistle moments. He
even had a sister dog whistle moment that I remember,
I said to you, don't catch it when the chick

(27:27):
that the black chick that was already hypnotized or whatever
was the grandma was in the room and he was
talking to his girlfriend. He was like, she was in here,
like you know, that's the whole thing. Remember, I don't
know if you remember. She like, that's the thing with
black women, like she when she came messed with his phone,
when she mess and the and the girlfriend was like,

(27:48):
why was she messed with your phone? He's like, what
do you mean why? Okay, yeah, okay, I didn't get it.
I can actually top you on on on that fontape
I saw. First of all, it got to the point
where I was obsessed with seeing the film, but more
or less watching people watch the watching So I think, yeah,

(28:09):
I've never seen a film more than I've seen get
Out in movie theaters that I think I've seen like
seventeen eighteen times. We were in Palm Beach in Florida.
It was like watching a whole another film because it's
literally me and a room. It was a small theater,
so it was about maybe sixty chairs. I'll say forty

(28:34):
five of them were older white people and It was
just like the complete opposite. Like they were appalled and
shocked because by that point, the critical claimness of the film,
it became like musty movie, you know, musty somebody out. Yeah,
it was watching it was like watching a whole another
film when you watched it in Palm Beach without spoiling

(28:58):
the movie. Did those people in the theater clap at
the end or frown? Oh? They didn't clap at all
when they were they the scene the scene where the
very end when uh uh the outside yeah, right before

(29:23):
Rail gets out of his vehicle and uh Allison is
in her position right, Um, we already talked about the
bleeding white girl earlier something. Ok. Yeah, they're like, that's
the first time I heard someone to express sadness for her,

(29:46):
well for him. Yeah. It was like like because when
I saw it in I went to the Magic Theater
with cheering, right, but in Palm Beach was like like,
oh god, she's about that sort of thing. Also, I
will also add much that this will probably make like

(30:08):
you're very happy. Every time I saw the movie, every
black woman, my wife included, was like, don't trust that bitch.
Don't trust that bitch. Like they knew the girl with
chopping off hands. Every all the black women they knew
off that she was a part of it. She wasn't

(30:29):
on the hit. Well I have to say that, uh
for the maybe the second year that movies and television
that sort of top music. Yeah, yes to me as
far as entertainment is concerned, yes a thousand times. Yes,
Um are there any? Are there any other significant movies?
Three Boys with three Real Boys, Hard, three Billboards a

(30:53):
black move and that is hard and sam uh Rock. Well,
I'll tell you what pissed me off this year was
not It wasn't. Jada Pinkett had a tweet storm a
couple of weeks ago about this about the Golden Globes.

(31:16):
So Tiffany got for a Golden Globe and Girls Trip
wasn't nominated for a Golden Globe. And not only was
it not nominated, the Hollywood form press didn't even watch
the fucking movie. Why would because it's a black movie.
But if it's the number one grossing comedy of the summer,
how beat the ship out of Rough Night? Black Women? Well, yeah,

(31:41):
but I get it. It's it's a black movie and
these are foreigners. And as somebody told me, one time.
Dr King didn't cross the ocean, so it's all the
marching he did. He never crossed the ocean, so it's
still a lot of it. So they just didn't funk
with Girls Trip. They didn't even infect the numbers enough
to go all right, Maybe this is an exception to

(32:04):
our new Nigga movie nomination Rule's crazy because that Tiffany.
I thought that Tiffany's story would have been the kind
of story that they championed. Uhm up, it would have
been if she would have did a white movie. Probably
if it probably would have made it different. I don't know,
if I've seen comedy he had a sassy black friendship,

(32:28):
if she would have been like Jennifer Hudson City, like
the magical Negro that helps the town of House. Three
years ago, when Leslie blew the block up on SNL
because it was a white show, then maybe there was
more white acceptance of Leslie than Tiffany because she blew
the block up out the gate on a black production,
just sucked up considering how good Girls Trip, but it

(32:49):
was really black production. Like it's not all just that
one black writer. It's like, oh, y'all, y'all running, What
is the festival was the backbone of the whole movie. Yeah,
it's exactly ye, speaking of Golden Globe snub. Just want
to shout out to Queen Sugar. I just want to
say that too. Well, you know what I say. Everybody

(33:10):
got snubbed, literally everyone this is the snubby is except
for Issa, who was the loudest on the carpet last
yo that Issa got nominated and last year actress or
right what don't ask me the category I want to say,
yeah I do. I just didn't want to do it
fast enough. Yeah, but remember last year on the red

(33:32):
carpet after Verdy but voting for everybody but right, yeah,
Queen Sugar. Man. I think the problem with Queen Sugar
not this or the show, but just I think it's
the fact it's on own. I think that's why they
keep shipping on it. Oh that's true. I don't have
no nominations, you right, And that's a show it's anything
else gorgeous show man, so not even it's not even

(33:55):
received I mean love or any recogness, nothing. But I
would argue that show and I don't know anything about
contracts in Hollywood and all that ship, but I would
argue that that's part of the reason why I owned
changed over from Tyler Perry to Will Packard to handle
production the most dramas over the next four or five years,
to basically change the entire and the types of shows.

(34:15):
She just sold the network, didn't you know? She know
she took a bigger cut of the network discovery or something.
I thought. I think they bought a big ship. I
think it's just a Bill Packer and Tyler Perry, two
totally different types of producers, and the type of shows
that they were green light are night and day. So
that may help to that problem going forward if there's

(34:36):
other shows on the network that are more in line
with what Queen Sugar, because Queen Sugar for a long
time was an anomaly. Yeah, it looked like nothing else. Yeah,
because I have a what do you call it that
started on iTunes, Uh, only because I came up in
the black church, I can kind of like relate to

(34:58):
a lot of this missing this within the church. It's
just pastors and people stealing money. Black dramas you can
find on own night. My mother watches the Haves and
the have Nuts. I can't do it. That's another that
hasn't had nuts and then he had like a comedy.
It was another joint. Remember a pain, more pain, some pain,

(35:23):
but I know it hasn't have not since the one
like my mother loves, she loves has none of I'm
touching this is us because it was our year. Goddamnit.
I'm sorry. I've still got to watch this show. So
on the music side, when you all see somebody gets snugged,
we got snug I will say that, with the exception
of what what's this year's Pixar film Cocoa Cocoa? Yeah? Um,

(35:44):
literally with the song that we did for Detroit shout
out to Fantigolo, also including this uh yeah with with
and speaking of should name the song, it ain't fair
uh for Detroit fulfilling profits see apparently listen now, Yeah,
we've literally we've been listed, and you know when they

(36:06):
give the projections of like you know, songs, Yeah, but
then when you look at the nominations, like even the
shoeing like common song for that didn't even get nominated. Good, yeah,
that didn't get nominated. It it was him and Andre
Day and Dane Warren. It is so no season. It's

(36:29):
like if you don't stand for something, you gotta stand
for anything. The guy that was working with Diane war
It was a load. It was a long road. Yeah,
so no, but I mean he's still got it. Got
his song, got nominated for Grammy an then double a

(36:51):
CP Award, like everything. What movie was it in? Just
so good? Marcia. I didn't even know the movie came out.
So it came out, it came out. It's like they
let's get this ship out for Black Panther to come out.
I think I ignored it because Chadwick Boseman was in
it and just have him and everybody like that was
his third historical Black girl. But Sterling Brown was in

(37:13):
that movie as well, and he was really good. Sterling
nothing nothing he gets Chadwick Boseman town to actor. I
just don't think he needs to play every historical black
That was the one. Yeah, Now I didn't think that
him playing third good. That was that was some some
Zoey's don't see it, don't even do it as it

(37:34):
was bought MS James Brown. I bought him as Jackie Robinson. No,
he killed those. He killed both of those as a
mythical black leader to blind Black Panther. Okay, so spread
to love him with you because music or do we
get mad? If we get do you get mad? And
then do you just go funck awards and just do

(37:55):
the work? I don't full cute Tip, It's like, never
let us tell me how I'm nice saying, well, you
know the black Twitter was clapping back of that instantly,
So it's even just Jill It's good. No, no, no,
no no, I just meant that. You know, I knew
that someone's going to bring up the tribe line. I

(38:17):
never need a statue to tell me, but I mean
I get tips point. Uh, what we're talking about is
trying to get back on the show too. I gotta
shut up. We're not slandering him. I'm basically I see
where Tip was going because this is the last Tribe moment.

(38:38):
It would have been a nice book ending if they
least got nominated, like as a moment for if they
deserve the nomination to have a real Grammy moment though,
for real, like this, Okay, just because the organization. First
of all, I'm curious as if Q Tip is a
voting member. I'm this is so many hip hop artists
that aren't voting members, Like people forget that. This is
like your whole voting situation. So it's like, you don't

(39:00):
be mad like he's I guess he should be mad
at all the other rappers and empty. But then with
the Grammys, I mean, I guess like any other it's
not a meritocracy. It's a campaign. But but you also
have to be a voting member and a pain. But yeah,
you have a point. This is the year. This year
is the sea change because now we're voting online, man,

(39:22):
And that's why that to me, he solidifies that Back
before this year and in conversations with our good friend
James Harris the third, I kind of figured that the
Grammys are just twenty people in the room really decide that,
and he's got the most, you know, but not quite

(39:43):
trusting the situation. I have to say that this is
the official year that the actual voting body members got
a say in what is, which could be a dangerous
thing because let's say a get sponsored by rock Nation, right,
because the thing is, if there's any time for a

(40:06):
legacy group like the Roots uh to pull a Jethro toll,
like this is our time to do it where it's like,
oh yeah, I like those guys that you know twenty
years and like us beating I'm just I'm giving you things.
You guys gonna beat Cardi B. Yeah, like you know,
pity pity votes. Now under the old system, I definitely

(40:30):
thought that, oh, now is our time to kick off
of you know, being the familiar old name and the
monks that sort of thing. But now that this new
voting system of us actually voting online, um yeah, it's
it's I predict this is going to be a problem
because you're really going to see the barometer of where

(40:53):
the voting members are. Because I mean, Cardi being gonna
win a Grammy this year, probably it could happen. The
value of a Grammy's just gonna Cardi B is a
meme to me. I don't know what to do about Cardio.

(41:13):
I mean, it wasn't hit record. I mean, but if
you're judging it on full body of work and album
and I don't think all of that, but just that record,
place it in the sunken place with it. Yeah, have
you heard it on loudspeakers? I've heard No, I haven't.

(41:34):
I've heard it in a car once. That's the only
time I've ever heard the song. I like you. I
was proud to not have known a Boudak yellow. I
was good with it, and then one day, like again,
the whole slithering Griffin door. You just have to remember,
I don't hip hop at all anymore. I get it.

(41:55):
I'm I'm borderline with her, and I'm still trying to
make a listen off of something I don't I'm just
saying that ain't I'm saying backstage in the Griffin door
dressing room of the roots. So I've never seen Harry
Potter either, by the way, I've never seen yeah and
uh and the Griffin doing my room it was quiet

(42:18):
as hell, but in the living room it was turned
city and that song became infectious. I couldn't avoid the joining.
It's a jail, it's a record, and the thing is
but like when, I mean, what did she do next?
I don't know. Oh my god, we're becoming those people.

(42:43):
We need someone young to help us. Man, I've been
that nigga about ten years now. Joint people. But is
that for us? That's not what it's not. Megos is not.
But Megos is more for me than like music. That
was was my listen as they I was on the

(43:05):
bubble about all that trap wrap ship and then I
tried to write a fucking parody song and realize how
hard it was. Ten fifteen years of radio, I ain't
never had no problem putting together I take that line
and make that funny, and take that. It's easy to
build a parody song mirroring the fucking You cannot mirror
that ship. You cannot play like just even just writing

(43:26):
a regular verse matchup, I can't do it well. I
think it's hard to pause prescription drugs. I need to
do some cough syrup and slow down. Because the new
joint is them, the Guccia Gang joint, that ship. Make
that Yeah, listen, what God damn little Pete not he

(43:47):
the want to die? A little Pete die. That's a little,
a little somebody. It's a white boy. It's called Gucci Gang.
Oh yeah, just it's a white dude. Little little Troy,
little pump, little little pump. I'm old. What's the name

(44:11):
of that young one, that one, you know, the one? Yeah,
I got pumping Pete confused, Junior, little Pete, Pete, that
pump is pump is good? You're good game coming tell
us that one. That's only one little pump. Let's look,

(44:33):
this is the first time that Boss Bills listen to rock?
Can we just start playing trap songs in the year
because I got requested? This is a real song. This
is a real song. Bill took off his headphone. Yeah,
what's your head I can no where to rang go?

(45:00):
And I never heard he was gonna do that. The
funniest thing about this song, though, it has a behind
the lyrics that like you can do on Jesus really
ever was a song that didn't need that times. Can
I hear mask off? Now? We're not taking basket chase,

(45:31):
no chick? Yeah? I get your point, Bill Washington proud
washtel Bills avoidance of trap culture? Is that similar to nutrition?
All right? If you're trying to lose weight, if you're
trying to live a better way of life, are you
going to eat one hundred now later in the morning.

(45:53):
I'm not interested in this ship doesn't mean anything to me.
Let him he's trailing your mind. I know, late, but
you it's junk food. It's a literally it's the acoustic
junk food that you partake in from time to time,
and it gives me diarrhea. You can't I get it.
The problem though, to that, to that perspective is fair

(46:15):
because of how corporations of influenced radio playlists. I ain't
gotta explain that to anybody in the room, and how
radio stations give you the same fifty songs every month,
and they had their corporate meeting and then they add
in ten more and then they make sure that the
dumbest songs in the world because they also controlled the turin.
They also controlled their venues. And we know everybody's gonna
show up to see the dumbsung dumb song sales more

(46:36):
tickets than woke song because they think you're all idiots.
What about Tyler the creator? Can we just have a
moment because I thought that it sounds like suicide suicidal
for I just thought it was a happier I mean
happy for him. I thought it was probably the happiest

(46:57):
I mean for Tyler. Yes, it's pretty damn happy, But
for anybody else, No, I haven't heard it. I haven't
heard anything I think camp since Earl Sweatshirts album, and
I think that's two years ago. Well, here's the thing,
this album. You know, I was expecting the normal Tyler,
I don't crush your testables in my teeth, that sort

(47:18):
of thing, and it wasn't that. It was like, give
me another bar, Tyler, I'll crush your teeth connected women
with brimal pass style and he made a very musical,

(47:41):
light sounding record which shocked the ship out. Don't know,
this is the record that I think he'll get the
old heads with you like cats are like, this is
the record. And and to be honest, it's funny because
when we interview roy Ayres, it's just actually ended up
being what said he was because just did not know
Tyler to create his name. He knew it. I work
with this young dude and he is so talented. He

(48:03):
called and he called him a piano but he said
he played the piano play. So we're thinking, we're like, okay, no, no,
we're just going through every jazz dude. He's like no, no, no,
So we're like, okay, well we'll just move on. So
we know you work with Tyler. Creator of all the

(48:24):
things that described Tyler created as I don't think piano
player would be the Viceland is very that is no,
that was the Jelly's the one on Vicelands, like a wait,
how many shows? This tile and half is just too
but it's like he wants it's almost like a he's

(48:45):
just traveling the world and it's I don't even want
to call it bourdain because it's not fair to make
that comparison. But he's experiencing something with somebody from his camp,
and this person just explained or like a toy shopping,
like learning how to make toys, how to make waffles,
how to get served. Like it was a whole episode
of him just in the forests in Canada, tapping maple trees.

(49:07):
One he designs a go cart and they build it
for him. And then there's one where, um, it was
the one I just saw the other day. Oh, he
learns how to do stop motion animation. You shout, But
he asked interesting questions and make you curious about it
as well. So you're experiencing something through his brain. It's
a good show. The creator definitely. Yeah. Um okay, so

(49:33):
another notable record. Now I have my theory on it.
What were I thoughts on four four four? Oh me,
first Me, first Me, First first Me, first hit? It
mixed that album? Holy sh it, that sounds horrible. Yeah,

(49:54):
you know what, you know what I have to say that,
I know that. Okay, My I'm not saying my theory,
but I definitely know that, especially based on smile my
theories that maybe they were late comers, late comers too
Donuts and yeah, I know, let's call munchkins. They were

(50:18):
late comers to it that they were trying to give
you that vibe. No, it just sounded because they recorded
in some of the best of studios. It sounded like
it sounded like this is bomb, this is no dis
to you, bro. It sounded like an old vanp album. Wow. Yeah,
I thought it was, and it was his best album
in a long time. Okay, we're gonna talk content now.

(50:40):
But here's the thing. Yea, I personally, I'm going on
record with this. Um, I don't believe. I don't believe
Lemonade nor four for four. So you think it's just
the spiracy. I think they know we want blood and

(51:03):
we'll take it. They're gonna sell us blood. But I
can see that, I guess, because my question is, how
if that really did happen, if either one of them
was in was cheating on each other, how do you
keep that set of secret? How does that I would
have to kill a mother. I mean, like I mean

(51:25):
the video Solange and the elevator beating somebody's in right, right,
right right, and that now that knowing Solange, I think
that it was real. That was real. There's been talk
on what happened to bring that on, which was real.

(51:45):
But I'm just saying that if you're the most famous,
I mean, I got dealist celebrity, me can't. I can't
make motherfucker's keep secret. You're not a billionaire though, Yeah,
but even then it's like hip. But that was a

(52:07):
whole another level. This nigga was hiring massade agents like
that nigga was on some day at the Jackal Ship.
I just don't think in the age of of of
selfie culture and just that needs advertised. I know your secrets. Yeah,
there's five people that know where the bodies are buried.
In my life, j and Beyonce have never really been

(52:29):
very public people to begin with, So why would that
ship be public to begin with? Okay, do you know
I didn't even know they were officially married until like after.
Here's the thing though, Okay, I'm writing a book about
your way when Okay, so I want to deal with

(52:49):
that alright, February so two thousand six. You're not gonna
like it what I write Okay, So two thousands six
I had the pleasure of visiting Will Smith's castle, right,

(53:15):
and the question I asked him was, I was like, yo,
because again, it was the most overwhelming experience I've ever
had in someone's house. Like he has a stadium inside
the house when he wants to play basketball. There's like
a replica of the forum there and all that stuff.
So it's basically like at one point I was just like, yea,
with all these people in your property, like, what is alone? Like,

(53:41):
can you just walk around the house naked if you
want to not being He's like, well, you're never alone.
You just get used to it. I said, so what's
being alone? Like, what's like no one's home? And he's like, oh,
no one's him. He's like that's about eighteen people, so
he's never just on his own, right, I can't imagine.

(54:03):
I know people that have signed in the as that's
still yacht their mouth because they can't hold it in
on you know, I know, you know, I know people
in his organization and the organization and math celebrities or
they have signed crazy yeah yeah, but at a certain
point when you're around people, and I mean not for nothing,

(54:24):
but I'm friends with his sisters and stuff. It's like
you respect them in a way where you don't do
that like they keep I mean, I don't not feel
like they keep people around it. Well, I don't know.
I don't know, but I know stuff that I maybe
should not know me too, and I would never because
you just respect the situation. But my thing is that
if you know the line about the manager and stuff,

(54:46):
I'm just like, how are you going to pull that
off again? And looking at those old Purple Rain notes
and looking at it in the Purple Rain Notes, Prince
finds brown Mark uh for being late the bus call.
Like there's a thing where some memos like whatever being

(55:10):
three minutes, like brown Mark was like four minutes late
to to to lobby call, And kind of the thought
behind it was like, because Prince was such at a
high level of celebrity that he can't even go in
the hotel lobby like he used to during the tour
and you know, play girl watch it. So basically Brown

(55:33):
Mark was basically kicking up the Purple Rain tour because
he his level celebrity wasn't so that he couldn't go
right exactly. So I can't imagine like, how do you
broker that deal? Like, yeah, who who's the super mega himps?
Who's the whole runner for James? There's got to be

(55:53):
come on, I mean you must know this. There's gotta
be like some super millionaire, pimpatient whole like I won't
say his name here. I've heard stories of a famous
white actor playboy who if he sees somebody in the
club but he want to fuck, he send the goon over. Yes, uh,

(56:16):
he would like to funk. Are you okay with dico?
I will not say this man confirm yo. And so

(56:37):
they say, yo, you just come up to the room
and just the bodyguard whoever just brings you in stripped down.
He will be in in a second. And then he
just walks in. We funk, and then he leaves and
you stay there and put your clothes on, You get
your phone back, and then you get no paper. But
in this age, it's like who can keep their mouth
silent on on that on a lot of people who

(57:01):
think that there might be another meeting of the possibility
of getting something more. It's more it's partially the moment
you realize that you was just a hotel funk while
my bodyguard watched you get your back beat out. Then
the only thing left you got the profit from is
the story, So then you're more likely to go and
ring him out. But in my mind, they get a

(57:22):
couple of dollars and those you know Ja Beyonce situations
like that's prostitution. I don't know. I mean, I just don't.
I don't believe that prostitution when you're when you're at
that level, I just don't believe. I can't believe that
someone is that's silent to not speak on the situation.

(57:44):
You don't think Becky and Becky with the blond hair
would have been that quiet. It would be the biggest
coup ever, though, I mean, he's in time. If the
white girl came out and was like, if this is
all alive, I don't believe it's the biggest ever. I
feel conne' seen. I thought of that too, But I
mean you got I mean, and you even said this before,

(58:04):
Boss Bill, if it was a black girl that he
cheated on the balls on that black woman to since
you make herself the most hated woman in America, like
you slept with Beyonce's husband. How many women have you
heard say I slept with Denzel even though we all know.
But I haven't heard nobody trying to funk with Paul
letter I mean, just you know, the one ses one

(58:26):
of these thinking. No, I'm you know, I just but
the point is nobody want to piss off Paul Letta,
and nobody want to be that one that said that
messed up. Oh I haven't. I personally haven't heard that.

(58:50):
But I mean, I'm not just the one story, but
I'm saying outside that you look at that man didn't
done his bus business. I would believe it was the
other ahead. I would believe these conspiracy This is first
of all, let me just say I love a good
conspiracy theory, and this is the first time I've heard
the one that Lemonade be four for four are inconsiou wait, wait,

(59:10):
wait for the record. I don't want nobody from the
Illuminati or the or the Bad Hive. They should be
trying to kill me. Yeah, yeah, they're not even listening
to pandor anyway you want. They're on title because it's
I'm just Lemonade. I'll right, yeah it is. I give

(59:33):
you Lemonade as a bunch of songwriters creating a facade.
But I feel like j on Trip or four would
be a little more truthful to his life. And I
think he's a smartass motherfucker. Brother did a song about it.
Don't you want to believe? Where's that brother? Obama's brothers

(59:56):
running around with Twitter account off the chain? How can
I ain't hurt from Jay's brother yet because Jay paid
him off? Is he still alive? And the song he survived?
I'm just saying, did he die from something? I was
afraid to ask even got to you? But the thing
about the Jay's brother thing, Jazz mentioned that in like
another interview or song or something where he said that

(01:00:19):
after he shot his brother, he was the first one
he came to. That Jay came to Jazz like, you know,
help me out. I think that may be true. I
think the tim shooting brother, I think that happened. I
always looked at music as the purest form. Jay's album,
to me, is the most emotionally naked he's ever been.
But it ain't nothing. I've been running and dying to
go see him perform. Well, I'm not dying to watch

(01:00:41):
him walk back and forth on stage. I wish he
would have presented It's very It's true. Um, he's got
a concert album. Even it's not. It's not. Ads have
found it out too. I don't think it's also not

(01:01:02):
the c Yeah, it's like six dollars. Yeah, they were
overcharged and retour they were overcharging. They were overcharging for
the floor seats right and hoping that they would make
up for the cheap seats everywhere else. Wow, wait, six bucks?
When's the last time my ticket has been six bucks?

(01:01:23):
Speaking of concerts seen, can y'all confirm or deny this
that the pictures on social media of Janet and stuff
were more exciting than the actual performance in its sound,
the show was good, okay, I enjoyed the You have
to you asked, what's she moving slower than normal? Somebody
said I heard that she was friends with some haters

(01:01:45):
and that fifty one year old Janet is not at
to the level of three year old Jack. That's are you?
Are you imposing some unrealistic standards on her? I just

(01:02:05):
had questions. I didn't know I've heard of I've heard
this tour was good, the tour before that, when she
was she stopped grabbing dicks, that she's not doing it
on this one, unfortun Why must you grab the dicks
when you're on these sticks. You love my wife. I

(01:02:27):
do not want you to grab it any more. Dicks. Okay,
I'm wonna grab it, Oh my god, but that's what
I do. I grab dicks. No nothing anymore. It's not
like Boris, I say, Janneys, gonna be with your main
I enjoyed who said getting back with you? And I

(01:02:49):
was just giving you a little some of that getting
back slip free ride had to jump in there. I
thought she was gonna two of the Jermaine jack though
he still does this thing. He still does this thing,
Jamaine Jackson, I'm going to stop. Hey. Um. We also
forgot to mention I she was a guest on the

(01:03:12):
show today. Uh sissors also control how we feel about
Sidgic Diaries still on my iPhone. I would had it
on my phone when I went over to Europe this fall,
and every time one of the songs came on, I
was into it until she started singing and then I

(01:03:33):
had to skip buck damn you. I like that song
she did on the tonight show. What was it called?
I don't know? Um has some moments that that I did,
like Love the Lord did drawn with Scott let's like
that's hello, R and B. I have to be like
alone absorb like I can't. It has to be from

(01:03:56):
like before. So there's no R and B. This I
like my record fun with the old white suit. Yeah,
it's a couple of cuts, but yeah, you're right right,
didn't Jim and Lewis had that was the start of
the story bite on Home Again? Didn geral LeVert produced
that cut how do you like Your Love? Ye? Oh yeah.

(01:04:20):
They took like half a new Office star of the story,
so they weren't getting a by Rod Timperton. But that
was my Yeah, yeah, I think wrote that when Tony
Nicholas if I didn't know that mother because the names
were always together. Yeah. And the thing I mean, I'm like, hi,
nicknamed Edwin, got a nickname named Tony? That Edwin Army.

(01:04:47):
My joint was sucking my Home Girl Bosco, Britney Bosco.
She had she put out a um EPs just called
b and that ship is fucking dope. It's dope. And
also Gwen as well. I really felt safe travels. I've
been ship for a while. Um, but yeah, what about
who'd go crazier this year? Uh? Maggie, that's chicks my student. No, yes, Maggie,

(01:05:14):
I love you like Maggie is one of my students
at n y U. Um No, she's from Ohio. Oh,
I know who you're talking about. But I can't remember
the gospel chick Chris. You had her on Instagram. You
posted her on Instagram and yeah, I can't remember. It
must not have been that great. No, it just we

(01:05:36):
know that I'm having brain. I always had brain. I
want to say Crystal, she's like the gospel chick, like
with the real thick harmonies and the run. And I
remember seeing a whole bunch of people tweeting about posting album.
I didn't because I had a whole bunch of this
ship to do. It was like it was like a

(01:05:58):
week when everybody was posting the beter than nothing. Hello
gold Link, you killed it, Thank you for saving gold Link.
Come on, no wait. I had high expectations for gold
Links album because I like the mixtape that he had
out before this ship was great. But then I just
found out that I like the production. Because but I

(01:06:21):
think that's true for all, Like I mean, that seems
to be the case, like when people say they're tired
of hip hop. I don't think they're tired of hip hop.
They're just tired of rappers. Yeah, if I never heard
another rapper rap again, I would be too soon. I'm
and I'm with you. I say that as a rapper.
Niggas wrapped. But Crew was the jam, Crews the jam.
I mean, we don't have a lot in d C.

(01:06:41):
We got him and Marvin Gaye. That's it. So wait,
so wait, hold on. Black people don't like rap music anymore. No,
black people like people don't like rappers, old black people.
This is a quest of supreme exclusive. Rappers don't like rappings,
not like rappers, a black raps don't like I like rap.

(01:07:02):
But then if it's it's got to be a little
bit off the beaten path, Like it's got to be
something that's a little harder to find, and you know
someone that you stumble upon, you like, there was a
there was a minute for like a decade. We're the
only way I got put on. The new rap that
wasn't caught up in the radio corporate bullshit was video games.
Video games introduced me to a ship ton of new

(01:07:25):
music across all genres. Like if you play Madden or Fifa,
it's impossible to not discover new me. I was listening
in the K pop working round with Fifa Yo the
fucking group Love out of l a Um, this fucking
group epic high, Like half they ship is in Korean.

(01:07:46):
They and I download the ship. I can't speak Korean,
but I was like, but the hooks are in English,
but the fucking verses are in Korean. I'm like cool.
And then I just pulled a ship up online, like, now,
what the fun was he rapping about? Let me read
about it, and it's all the same, like in terms
of like just lyrically, they're talking about the same fucking
aspirations to be better, and you don't buy it as

(01:08:08):
much because your Korean. I don't think he came from
the gutter, the same as every fucking black rapper. But
it's coming to me. Actually I like Sid's album. Yeah,
me too. Oh my god, why am I looking at
so quiet? I wasn't. I was trying to debate if

(01:08:31):
it came out in two thousand bill sipping a lot
of tea right now, So insecurity was my jam on
that record? That was I like the backgrounds on that
joint for what it is. It's cool, but I still
think Jack Davy should be where she is. Hey, Brihan
could have been a contender, has been so close to

(01:08:52):
music for so long. Changed Yes, how you even just
absorb a song? We we ruined our path it. It's
like I ate too much good food for too long, well,
in some good ways, in some bad ways. I mean,
I guess it's in the same way like if you're
seeing a comic and like you see him killing it,
you can appreciate him killing it, but on a deeper level,

(01:09:12):
you see analyzing exactly you analyze. So from me, when
I hear a great record, I still I'm like, damn,
this is dope, just you know, just instinctively I feel it.
But then I'm listening like, damn, how do they mix
that vocal? Damn? Listen to how they did this. So
it gives you a great appreciation of it. But on
the other side of it, when you hear some bullshit.
For me, it does the same thing. You know, you
can see the tricks, you know what I mean, Like

(01:09:34):
you can see here's how they around. Here's an example.
So all right, who's millennial of Okay, let's take playboard
CARDI okay, now, no clue, no I like Magnolia was
like the reaction I get when I play Playboard cardis Magnolia.

(01:10:00):
I'll put in context twenty five years ago, it was
like when you heard the first four seconds of like
Jay Ruse, Come Clean, you can't play just so okay,
but it's just y'all water buck. Even then, it's like

(01:10:22):
for me, it's like again, it's the whole effective versus good.
I played it so many times, and I guess the
elation that I get from when I play the draw
means you like it now? I mean, have I been uh,
what do you call Stockholm syndrome? Brainwash? What this in

(01:10:46):
New York? My thing is like I can't tell us
apart from songs, all that sounds say, No, this is
not Milli Rock Magnolia. I didn't have my son. I
didn't know my song you Got a Rat with your
Mouth over No. That is my first time ever hearing that.

(01:11:11):
I was hoping for my last time to um No.
I think it's like I just don't. I don't. I
can't tell it apart from fifteen other songs. It sounds
just like it. Yeah, No, I did, so. Have we
become our parents? Yes, y'all have it sounds like and
what But the thing is, all right, did our parents

(01:11:31):
have a point when? Probably? Okay? Any all right? So
when crews no, no, no, no, no, because my palate
was way better than that. All right. When the night
I heard the day that I brought nation the millions
by publican me, it was blasting. Now I live in

(01:11:54):
bass heads or my stereo system in my room. My
dad was like, this is this is noise, this garbage.
But you can understand what do you say? Am I
wrong for thinking that there was a work of art? No?
But but then again the millennials after me also think
it's bulls. But the difference to me, the difference between
the two generations is that there aren't When you listen

(01:12:17):
to Public Enemy acoustically, there weren't twelve other enemy of
the Public Tennessee Enemy. There there were some fighters, liberals,
you'll remember, the rhythm radicals. But no, I think they
would get caught in the fact that you just called

(01:12:38):
them a bitter proof. You get called out for how
dare you even trying to sound similar? Now that's rewarded
because like in our era of hip hop, it was
my style is better than yours. Now the m o
is Oh, I can do your style too. There's no more,
there is nothing there. Originality is not really rewarded. It's like, oh,

(01:12:59):
I can do this, I can do the radio stations
because they won't play anything else. They don't want to
think I'm shocked, Okay, I didn't. They're great. And the
thing too, like with the biters like back then, I
mean with somebody like Public Enemy. I mean that ship

(01:13:20):
requires skill to bite that, you know what I mean?
It does not require skill. I mean if I want
to make whatever. I mean, those records are what they are.
But that's still very easily uh, five minute beats and
the people that make them are proud of the fact
that they're five minute beats. Yeah yeah, I v V

(01:13:41):
the upper echelon of music. Um, any of you guys
funk with Washington's three hour jazz album that because Russ
Russ mixed a forty minutes. Yeah, he just put out
another one. It's a yeah, it's a new one something
harmony of different yeah yeah, yeah. I listened to some

(01:14:01):
of it. It's good fun with it, I really, but
I really liked the epic though, the three hour joint.
I think I may made it six hours, don't don't
don't give me a copy that what I what I've
gained and like sitting in with you. Although it's like
it's so interesting, how if you're in a different prism
of entertainment, Like how for Bill like music is too noisy,

(01:14:24):
so you go to TV to escape. I feel like
TV is too noisy, so I try to go to music.
TV was the best because so many options, Is that
what you mean? Like this already, I don't watch ship.
I gotta watch just on some research. So I'm already
losing half of my attention span, so there's less time

(01:14:47):
allotted to even watch that. I want to enjoy discovering,
and you can't just catch up on the one week
he got the whole guy there, which is the only
advantage because then when I do get a moment I
want to see give me all the punisher, let me
like that's funny. I'm just I haven't. I haven't. I
haven't checked Fundished yet. I'm waiting on Black Mirror. They season,

(01:15:11):
not the second season, the last season, the last one,
the one from the last season to send you in apparel,
that one, that one, that Black Mirror fucked me up
because all that ship could kind of happen all of it.
It's like it's too close. Like there was the one
where they were rating people that's actually about to happen. Yeah, yeah,
fucking Bitcoin. Mr Robots, Mr Robots, R Robot, Mr Robot.

(01:15:34):
Still gotta get on it, man, And you did your postma,
then I got lost into it. I enjoyed Mr Roberts.
But you're saying that as a person on television, you
don't see how awesome television is. Now. I see awesome television,
but there is so much awesome television that I can't

(01:15:56):
get to it all that. Some shows, I'm just straight
up like, you know what, fuck it? I get a
perfect example. I love Arrow. I ain't no real superhero procedural,
last dude. I think most superhero procedurals it's just you
just fucking cashing the check and you're gonna stream. But
to see that's table. I'm talking that this is double Arrow.

(01:16:18):
C W. I suck around and missed a season and
blink an Arrow is now six seasons and the flash
fun off of the Arrow and then legends of that.
We're talking literally eighty episode of fucking television across all titles,
and I just I can't fucking fuck. So I'm done
with Arrow. Is there gonna be like, is it gonna bubble?

(01:16:41):
It's gonna burst with television because there was a lot
there's back in a day, like if you missed one
episode of Dallas a Dynasty, like, it wasn't the end
of your world? Are you saying now that we have
to be super completest and watch every episode of Well?
Because a lot of Well back in the days, the stories,
storylines weren't always continuous, especially with like sitcoms and ship
so I weren't always continuous, and that was the way

(01:17:02):
we watched was different. You had to wait week the week,
and now now you don't. And now it's funny because
I'm like, meanwhile, on Netflix, you gotta watch Luke k.
Do you want to watch Jessica Jones? Do you want
to watch The Defenders? Yeah? And then you just go funking.
I'm on the bed, like you're just just sitting there,
like I think there's three shows that I watched religiously

(01:17:24):
and then the rest of them is I'll just catch
it when I catch it. What are the other two? Um? God, well,
broad City just ended? What is it? What is the
other one's you watched Orange and New Black? I watched it.
I stopped here the second season. Actually, I'm actually still
watching Scandal, but that's good network drama. I'm just I'm

(01:17:47):
watching because I just want to see how it ends.
And this is an evil Olivia. I don't know if
I like I don't know if I like it either,
but I've stuck with it this long. I just that's
how I feel that it might be the jump the
Shark season seasons ago. Like I'm I'm amazed that they

(01:18:07):
find new ways to make Stevie one just song still new. Look,
I'm not trying to have Sean to send the illuminate
the whole Illuminati after but I you know, man, the
music clearance person is so that I stop. How to

(01:18:29):
get Away with Murder, I didn't finish it was too
I mean, I watched. I'm not lying to you. I
watched like forty shows. I don't know how you know,
people ask like, how do you have nineteen jobs? I'm
amazed I'm actually keeping up actively with forty television shows.
I don't know how you do that. Just traveling and

(01:18:53):
just you know, I find times to But yeah, for
some reason, I know that How to Get a Way
Murder is quality TV, but it's just a wait who
said that? Because I know a lot of people that
are usual there into Shanda world that aren't really into
How to Get Away with Murder. I never got into it.

(01:19:14):
It's good, there's some payoff there, but I I just
think I don't have I don't have enough time for
I traded. I traded in Murder for Queen Sugar and Green.
I did some trade and Queen Sugar had to give
up the numbers. I couldn't get into it. Let's see

(01:19:35):
that you should go to Queen Sugar, like, give it
five episodes. I think I got three episodes in then
I stop. It's a slow bill. You just like one
of the wild Okay, wait understood. But know the thing
with The Wire. It took me like ten years to
watch The Wire. You ever watched The Wire? I've watched
The Wire with someone who's watching it for the first

(01:19:57):
time and I have to literally go, trust me, stick
with season for anybody. That's the Europeans in the shipping yards.
But that's the most important because that's how the dope
get in the city. So you meet the Greek and
the whole but it's certain shows I like watching, even
though I know it's junk food and I know I

(01:20:18):
can see the tricks from a mile away. The same
with the fucking audio ship. For me, my ship is
Chicago Fire and Lethal Weapon. It is you know what.
The first season, it was good, fun basic, shoot him up,
catch the criminal who we almost died, good episode critics,

(01:20:40):
it's funny, It's fucking yeah. And I can't even think
of new Riggs name, but he's a fucking great actor
from Alabama. Riggs name like Riggs. He don't hit it
with that Danny Glover base though he ain't. He ain't
Danny Glover with it. But it honors the movie and
it's I ain't. It ain't gonna never get nominated for

(01:21:03):
an Emmy for writing, but it is a fun, solid show.
It'll be on ten years as long as they want
to do it. It was still on. I didn't like.
I stopped watching Empire. Like Empire, oh dog. I left
after the Prince episode. Here's the thing, the first episode,
I Love your Family, but I love Empire is one

(01:21:25):
of those shows where if you don't because it's a
twenty episode drama and it's not procedural. So if you
missed three episodes, it's who is this nigked? And where? Yeah,
my girlfriend watched the Star, so I was to mention it.
My girlfriend watched the Star. I sit on the couch.

(01:21:45):
That cool I watched and then it'd be three. I'll
be like, who is that? Oh she from Empire. That's
a crossover episode and didn't happened a New Edition movie?
It's cast on Star and you want to like support,
you know what I'm saying. And I watched the Ship
and I'm just like, God, damn it. I want to follow,
but I got it right back to arrow. I'm forty episodes.
But I ask you speaking a good TV New Edition movie?

(01:22:08):
I love it. It was good. It was it was
one of the best things that happened. Just changed. Shout
out to Barry. I'm sorry. Here's the here's the downside
to the New Edition. It has inspired a slew biopics
that do not have the budget, or the music clearances
or the acting prowess, but the talents of the people

(01:22:31):
that pulled off the New Edition. Talking about the phara
will see. That's I'm excited, We'll see. So you ain't
like the TLS you sit down with the Bobby Christina
movie when I was like, wait, there's a Yeah, I

(01:22:57):
think it's it's somewhere. But the Whitney John was good
though it was the lifetime you like that. I didn't
see it. I didn't see it, but my girl, which
one was that? It was fine? It was fine? Was

(01:23:17):
it as good as new Addition? Yeah? Was it as
good as the new edition? Like that, but that that
was standard was new addition was new. Addition showed that
there's a audience and retro the same reason we got
all these retro nineties hip hop tours that are starting
to bubble up and escape going back out. But I
just feel like the stories need to be done properly

(01:23:38):
and don't just rush me some bullshit to the screen,
because you know, listen, man, it was one of those
movies I saw like I saw like all the people
like trashing, and I was like, and I walked in, like, damn,
this is gonna be bad. So then I walked in
you know what, we saw it and I was just
was watching. It was like, yo, this is because only
they trashed the right But but the next night, I

(01:24:01):
swear it was like two nights later we was at
home and Straight Out and came on HBO and we
watched Straight Content. It was just like, yeah, that was trash.
You haven't seen Straight Coming before. I mean I hadn't
seen it before, but perspective, I was like, oh god, yeah,
that ship was bad. It was. It was the pop
movie was like Mr Robot, I like, can I ask

(01:24:21):
a question? Though? Okay, no, no, no, no no. I
was just gonna give a plug for Smill on showtime.
You know what he wants you. Here's the stepmother like,
did you have single mom? Single mom? Did he describe
it to me as a single one woman? Shameless? There
you go? Just had it was just herself. I don't watch.

(01:24:50):
I watched every episode. I love. I love to see
white people in situations like that broke, white people strugg struggling.
It's like white people of Bruce's it's money. I'm a
little the same way about still. But you know what,
the fact that the back Shameless was like, damn white, Wow, Steve,

(01:25:15):
you love television or do you? Yeah? I mean you
know me. I used to what do you Right now?
I'm watching The Crown. Yeah, I like my guilty pleasure
This year was Riverdale. I thought that that's one of

(01:25:36):
my forty watched on Netflix to catch up. Yeah, what's
the show everybody's keeping? For the child was just like, listen,
I have a question about the mayor. I got one, Okay,
may I have a question about the mayor because all
the ratings are off the chain. It's but again, it's
like Shyraq also got an eighty five and rotten tomatoes.

(01:25:59):
That shouldn't have happened, right, And I almost feel like
when I saw syd rat get eight five, then I
was like, oh, you're afraid to You're you're afraid to
criticize it, So give it a ten. Let's get out
of here. Have we watched I'm still stick in the mayor.
I'm sticking to the mayor because I'm a complete it.
I'm gonna finish the season, right, They got like a three?

(01:26:21):
Have you guys? Yeah, have you watched it? And he's
wanna have it? No? No, no, no mayor, no no no.
I watched the pilot. I watched the pilot and you're
not aboard. No, not really not. But you know most
pilots sucked. Yeah I know that. I know that, and
usually to me, I was it was it was just
the premise that the premises didn't really it felt real eighties.
It felt like it felt like wrapping Mayor. I don't

(01:26:46):
want to watch. Yeah, Like, didn't we see it witham
Kid Patrick? Didn't you have the I want to see
that show? What they took the Kelsey Grahama show off.
That was a really good show. It was called The
Mayor on Stars. It was I'm sorry, Kelsey Grammar had
another show besides. It was called The Man. Yeah it

(01:27:08):
was he was a mayor of Chicago. It was on Star. Yeah,
I remember seeing that. I didn't watch it, but it
was like a sinister It was like House of Cars,
but like as a mayor before House of Cars. Yeah, damn,
you never seen s you go deep? Sometimes deep cuts
are deep. The Ozarks was good to that. Jon Bateman,

(01:27:30):
what's deal with it? What's the deal with Like? What's
it about? What? He really gets pulled into the dope game. Yeah,
I couldn't be like like walk White killed. The whole
subgenre of white Man goes into scary underworld with niggas. Like,
I'm good with that, but it's a different industry. He's

(01:27:51):
the one that look like it's the money he washes
the money. That's the same. I mean he a drug
dealing nonetheless like it. So sincere steve, it's a good show.
Since we're there, since I was such a stand for
Breaking Bad, I gotta I'm struggling. I'm struggling with Salt,
and I know everyone still is still trending. You are you?

(01:28:11):
Are you current on it? I'm on season two. I'm
hanging on. Season two is tough. Season three is the
better call. Saul was the episode the one you're saying
season two is like the Russian season of That Bad.
But yeah, but it's still on those list. I need
I need some magic that happened season three, season three,

(01:28:34):
they start bring you start seeing more, a lot more
Breaking Bad shows up. You know, you actually introduced to
the Salt Goodman character, and you start seeing how he
falls into what he became, and and and the way
they wrote the art, the relationship between him and his brother. Yes,
oh man, I forgot about that. That ship is hard,

(01:28:55):
but you got just for that alone. You gotta watch that.
I forgot what the name of the so then you
y'all know the one, the court one nigga, Oh god yo,
I'm back, my my surprise Discovery this year was Go
Mora that ship Nigga, it's on, It's on as it

(01:29:17):
come on Sundance and things comes on Sundance. So Gomera
is it's a it's a true story and it's based
on like the crime the Camorra crime family in Italy.
So best why I can describe it. It's basically the
Wire but with no misbeats. Like so if a nigga
do something in the opening and you'd be like damn,

(01:29:38):
like this niggas are the die, Like in the Wire,
he wouldn't die to like episode nine Gomera that nigga's
dead in the next twenty minutes like it. So is
a period takes place like in current day in Italy
and so and it's based on the book. The name
of the book is I think it's called It's On Sundance,
but you can I think you can probably know you

(01:29:59):
know what it's on that The first two seasons are
on Netflix and Go More. It's like super brutal, super violent,
but like the story is just so fuckings it's no
waste to beat it just boom boom, boom boom, and
like that'ship is crazy. I watched it because it's it's subtitles,
so I got into it. I was one day the

(01:30:19):
guys with my kitchen. They were doing some work in
my kitchen and it was loud noisy, so I couldn't
watch nothing that I had to listen to. Let me
just watch. Yeah, I didn't watch the latest Narcos. I

(01:30:42):
enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. It was it was fine.
I mean, we marry ourselves to the creator said that
it's the story of Cocaine, not the story of Papla.
So the story of Cocaine continues beyond and to that
whole point. About the British ship season three, I thought
they I thought halfway through, they're gonna I see what

(01:31:02):
they do, and they said this up to this season four. This, dude, No,
they fucking tied that ship up in a boat. God damnit.
Season four is some whole new other ship that will
eventually bring us up to El Chapel, like to the whole.
So it's like as they follow it. Speaking of TV
shows about cocaine, did anybody watch Snowfall? I did. I

(01:31:25):
was kind of talk to me. It's John Singleton and
he's telling the story cocaine eighties and how crack cocaine
came to be, So that is an interesting backstory. Then
I didn't know anything about. But it's three separate characters

(01:31:45):
you're watching. You're watching three separate shows concurrently, and eventually
by the finale, they show you how they all converge together.
So it's one of them. You gotta stick with it
because I was like, from of two of the three storylines,
the story lines I didn't give a about trying to

(01:32:06):
remember the three services. It was the mean the black kid,
you got the black kids kids, the Mexican wrestling nigga
give no fun about. And that was when I was
like you, But but it came together. I didn't together.
I didn't finish the season, so it was it's worth finishing.

(01:32:26):
It comes together. But now let's see what season two
now that we have them. I thought it would have
been a better show if they would have just focused
on the Black kid and then see how watch it
go out? You know what I'm saying, like to see, Okay,
you start here, but now I'm working with the Mexicans.
Now it goes up to the c I A. But
trying to introduce all those stories at first, there's a
lot of ship that I watched off the respect of

(01:32:48):
the creators, and I go, all right, I respect your
body of work. I'm gonna give you ten episodes and
I'm gonna go ahead and speaking of it already, let's
go to let's go to John's counterpart. She's say she's
gotta Now I have to say that I am torn.

(01:33:11):
I'm I'm torn. And it's like I'm at the fifty
yard line and do I step to the to the
right making nine or do I make it? So it's
like mm hmm. I've only seen two episodes, and a
lot of that was mirroring the film, so I feel
like I haven't seen you. The thing is just like,

(01:33:34):
do you know at the inception if you're going to
like like, I want to like it. So I'm already there,
like all right, Spike, I want to like this. I
don't think Spike Lee's method of storytelling is suited for
episodic television. Okay, talk to me. That's it. That's it
sounds like a sound what I thought it was. It's

(01:33:55):
funny you said that. I kind of felt the opposite way.
I thought that watching it all in one dose, I
didn't do that. So you didn't we watch We Took
to the Head. I couldn't stop watching it. I watched that.
I like needed a break because it's just Spike Lee.
So it's gonna be a lot of in your face
over the head, you know, you beat. But I can

(01:34:15):
consider that like little breaks like the album covers and
like no, I'm talking about just like just just the
way Spike Lee tells stories like it's a lot of
very obvious overt in your face is this is me,
Spike Lee. I have a message to tell you through
with these characters. These aren't real people. This is just
me spotting my views that you you know. But that's

(01:34:35):
kind of his whole and every completely. But so that's
why I'm saying Spike Lee's method of storytelling, I don't
think it's suited. First, we like to see, in a
perfect world, how would we improve She's got to have
season two. I think he's gonna have to get some
younger writers in the room and let other people directed.

(01:34:56):
He directed every episode, directed every episode. I liked the
I'm like, that's the thing I feel like Spike like
he Spike and camera work is such a beautiful work
of art. Like I'm used to it his DPS. I mean,
it's not really his camera work. Yeah, but it's still
his all the things y'all say when Spike has already

(01:35:17):
left the building. You know, we interviewed him this year. Roy, Hey,
how you doing before we've seen I mean, we're talked
about you were talking. You're talking about she hate me
in his face? Yeah, and we were semi critical stuff.
We were we were you were good. Yeah, I'm just

(01:35:38):
saying that. Okay. So Bill didn't like the album cover ideas. Yeah,
I hated album. As a musician, I love the album
cover idea. I just thought it was it was too distracting.
And you didn't like the PDIO that's super specific, like
what an album covers so blurry that you were like,
they didn't even use the right strapla. I was like,

(01:36:00):
they could have easily found like the I mean, they
found every other image off the discox, so just grab.
The first thing Bill was mad at was the fact
that some of the PDFs that they used were super
I'm sure Netflix gave him a budget that he could
have gotten account from whoever's doing you got somebody actually
take They could have gotten to like two Universal's b

(01:36:23):
B two b site and downloaded high quality images off
the ship like this until the spike for next season
that he should just have people holding the Quest Jazz
video where they just hold like the cards or whatever,
like Yo, did I can ask a question? You don't
like those QT things? And Spike, why Bill? Why? No?
It's just take it takes the viewer out of the story.

(01:36:46):
Did watch that? Spike did? Y'all? Actually I were watching
is did you feel like you needed to go back
to the movie because I want to just kind of
I haven't seen the movie in a long time, and
I'm scared to go back and watch. I don't want
to go back to the movie because there were moments
when I was like, wait a minute. I was looking
at like the character Greer and I was like, wait
a minute, grew was not that obnoxious and feminine, but

(01:37:08):
he but he was kind of like he was a
pretty boy. But this nigga Greer is like borderline gay,
like he like he could be right, Like I don't
think he's I just think he'd just rather marry himself.
Like narcissist and was narcissist, but when seventeen like that's narcissism,

(01:37:29):
is is rewarded narcissism and social media. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And that's the thing too with the problem I think
he's gonna have with the show. I mean I loved it.
I mean I thought it was I really enjoyed it.
I hate it. I didn't hate it, Yeah, I enjoyed it.
But I think the problem is going to be, how
do you make this relevant to now? Because in eight
it was like no thought of a Nola Darling was like, oh,
this girl is everywhere. Now nigga whole ship is rewarded.

(01:37:53):
Now that's just the way it like. And I'm not
calling Nola hope, but I'm just saying, whats right there.
I'm just saying that things haven't changed because she's not
supposed to be. I still felt like I was watching
uh and older conservatives view of what black feminism is,

(01:38:17):
and you know, that's sort of the thing. And plus
it's like with brilliant stuff like Atlanta competing with it,
and y'all know how much I hate Don Gloves music,
but Atlanta's brilliant, and it's it's like, that's the thing.
It's like if I didn't see Atlanta and dear white people,

(01:38:38):
and you know, I still arrive for Insecure, But I wrestled.
You know, it's funny because I wrestled with the storyline,
the part about the assault on the street, right, Like,
I had a moment myself where I went, he just
grabbed her, what's the big deal? Why is she tripping?
Why did she need to do all this? I think
he did that because he that's still him trying to
tone from the rape scene. But I also had to,

(01:39:01):
as a woman, and especially in the current climate, go,
who am I to say that that's not right? Right? Like,
I had to have that whole moment with myself too.
So I don't know, maybe when you're talking about like
the way he kind of came over, it was kind
of startling, like I probably would have had the same reaction. Yeah, yeah,
because it was it wasn't it wasn't it? Well no, no, no,
I'm thinking of the guy that when she was putting

(01:39:23):
up the posters and came up on this. But even
in having that conversation with my mother after we both
watched that scene, like my mom was kind of even like,
I mean, you know, we would have just fought back,
we would have did it. And I was like, you know, Mommy,
this is what it is. Culture is starting to end,
and I think we're starting to witness that, like maybe
the way we used to handle things is not the
way that we're going. I don't think that's going. I
don't think we're gonna see that with black women though.

(01:39:44):
I mean, I mean if white women do it first
and they say, we can say go and then you know,
we'll pick out the thing and well, you know we'll go.
Am I the only person in here that still loves power? No,
I like power, I love I love the ship. It's
a different type of black show than me because I
know that there. I feel like black shows that are

(01:40:05):
ruded are connected to reality. There's more of a It's
like wine and you judge it the way you do wine,
where powers just sucking whiskey is just like yeah, but
if it's black ash show Atlanta insecure, we must pontificate
on black This is just a sucking dope boy who

(01:40:25):
prosecute because he got his sister killed because he dumb motherfucker.
No spoiler alerts, I see it, but just for our
listeners up there were too late. Now. But okay, speaking
of which, can we say, can we say that Blackish
is now the official Cosby replacement black bull, black people bullhorns.

(01:40:55):
I try to figure out what what's more importance? I figured,
and then and then I'm figured, and then then I
figured that, oh, Cosby was the first, I guess the
first uh not I'll say dog was so of see

(01:41:16):
we can be civilized or that that sort of thing.
It was like, oh, well that was some of my
best friends or black show. I mean, but because I
grew up watching it, it means a lot to me emotionally.
And we've had many guests on the show that says that, hey,
the Huxtables were my family too, So I can't just
totally dismiss it. But I mean, there's never been a

(01:41:40):
show like Blackish that is tackled like real what it
means to be black and what it's like. First of all,
our only black people watching Blackish, Like is this is
this a water cooler moment? It's got It's plenty of
white people watching that show be on the air. Yeah,

(01:42:01):
I've I've been watching it. I mean, first of my
kids watch black like, yeah, my mom doesn't watch anything
that isn't about Jesus. I'll watch it with them. But
it's like the thing I'm kind of starting to seeing that.
You know, first off, anytime a baby comes on the show,

(01:42:22):
that's immediately kind of jumped Stark moment, so I get
kind of sam the baby's name is DeVante. It was
a whole episode about Okay, I missed that. I didn't
because he wanted to keep it black black. Yeah, but
it's like every show, it's kind of like Anthony Anderson
is like the mouthpiece for like how you were saying,
like his characters, how Spike's characters just feel like vehicles

(01:42:44):
for his views, and the Anderson's character is kind of
starting to feel like that to me is like where
he's the guy that's starting to feel too uh kind
of preach common earnest earnest. No, not not proper down earnest,
it's too earnest earnest. Yeah, yeah, very yeah. To me,

(01:43:06):
it's kind of like I would have shunned the cosmic
comparisons early on, but then as the show has progressed,
it's definitely been that, even right down to ZOEA I'm sorry, y'all,
Shahiti spin off lack of right, Like it's to show
the black college experience of what it's like to be

(01:43:27):
a black I don't. I don't know what from the previews,
I assume she's at a white school, and then she's
a black person at a white school. Otherwise she's at
the nicest goddamn black college that I've got the black friends,
some of them RUMs, I'm like, there ain't no black
college but even now, and you're from you fund this

(01:43:48):
out like me, so you know black colleges now is
not what it used to be. The guy was from
the family. I was furious, as your motherfucker's got older
ship brore o one, so you weren't there. On Common
got arrested for deodo. No, I missed Common. I miss
Common arrested two years when he his freshman year. Uh,

(01:44:16):
I think you got arrested for it still, Theodore, I
thought you like he was doing a show and it
was an undergrad getting lot. Well he only went for
one year. But I think the story about well what
comment I thought that was. I thought that was in
the press already. Yeah, but yeah, I like, she's gotta

(01:44:45):
have it before we leave. Uh. What's our verdict on
season two of of Insecure? I liked it. I enjoyed it,
But what annoys me about insecure is how some people
receive it. So it's the only show in which I
find some of the fans of the show annoying because
people can't agree that both Lisa and Lawrence are both horrible.

(01:45:10):
Thank you, they are. They've both done irredeemable ship. It's
almost like night as a member, Lawrence time, what do
you do that was irredeemable? How is that irredingvable? Well,
that's nothing break up breakup. That was a break up breakup.

(01:45:31):
I mean I know you didn't you know you? And
when you went to the barbecue with the chicken. No,
you don't want to take serious. That's some dirty ship. No,
you don't do you don't behave as a boyfriend with
somebody that you know, it's just pussy. But I don't
think that that was irredeemable. I think that was him
just being human being, Like, that's just human being. Left.
He left that barbecue without saying goodbye, right, Yes, that

(01:45:53):
was fun, he said, yeah, yeah, he was city and back.
This problem is that he was he was the proverbial
nice guy, like he wasn't They don't know how, I
don't know. You don't think was the nice the putting
in quotation marks a nice guy, like you don't think, Okay,
he wasn't the Gangster Lives, he wasn't in her building.

(01:46:16):
But you know, it's the only show I watched that
I won't talk with people about because I just know
what's gonna It's starts like talking to a Trump motherfucker.
It's like, I can't change your mind about how you
feel about But I think that. But I think that's
the mark of a great I don't feel about Secure
Steve that much. I don't know what what. I don't
know how you have time to watch all this fucking television?

(01:46:37):
What the fuck your work? Yeah? Sometimes you know which
which show was Insecure only for black women time. I
don't think he was irrithingable. I think he was just
a flawed person, like East was flawed. And I like

(01:46:57):
the way they brought the them having that they deserve.
They're so they deserve each other. Hope they lived and
they earned a powerful fucking soul and his brother type
moment of at the end. But it is something for

(01:47:18):
a woman who has a nurtured nurtured in the end
that he leave and he gets a better situation. There
was like a whole there's just layers in that. So
you're basically saying that wasn't ship okay, because you said
he went to a better situation. No, I said he
was going to a better situation. I was talking about
his professional career and ship like because that job didn't

(01:47:38):
work out. Here's the thing, though, Sometimes I found problems
with people that watch television that hate the characters so
much that you don't acknowledge the fact that they pulled
an emotion out of you. Now, but different, I don't
spend time with people I don't like. But the thing

(01:48:01):
is this that uh I mean no, no, no, There's
there's some villains I cheer for, like I like Power
what villain I mean he was but they were still
like you still like there were still things to like
about something redeemable and his choices. But the thing is
that there was a hold up, hold up and hold on.
We didn't think it's a pault. Okay, you can understand,

(01:48:23):
you can unders here ademable what why, you can understand
the logic, But isn't the kid is dog? I'm just
trying to look. I'm just again like if like most
of the characters on Power are villain our villains and

(01:48:46):
I kind of I wouldn't like it. I don't think
it'd be your ad. It's he's a great actor, but
that's the most rappers are rare. But what I'm saying
is that, I mean, I can see if they pulled
no emotions out of you, like say, no, I get

(01:49:07):
what you're saying. Yeah, okay, it's say Jeff from Curb
your enthusiasm, like he doesn't pull any rage out of me.
Or I can't watch The Curb it's too uncomfortable. Oh
I love it this season. I can't watch it ever.
I've seen it, but I can't watch it. It's uncomfortable,
uncomfortable and uncomfortable like I watched the ship that Larry

(01:49:29):
gets himself into him late. I mean, but to have
to turn away, I can't watch it. Well, I was
given a hypothetical thing. But what I'm saying is that
it is a return. If you hate the character so much,
doesn't that mean that they did a good job at
drawing you in? Maybe it means they did too good
of a job. But like I said, you're still watching it,
not anymore? Watching season three? No, I don't care. I

(01:49:52):
don't care anymore. I'm I'm still round Monday and large
they get a season to fix it. If you didn't
like it. That's how I gave him season two. That
was it. Season two was one you telling about Lawrence Fishburn.
We're done with black to that point. Quest, that's where like,
wait a side question before you make your point, Okay,

(01:50:14):
And I'm gonna ask you, yes, you're representing all white people. Great,
with the exception of the Cosby Show. Is the general
feeling for black shows that are on television. And I
know you're gonna be like, well, I don't want to
only watch three shows, but the general feeling like with
movies and black shows and black television or whatever black

(01:50:35):
movies that, oh well, that's not for me. I don't
you know. Do you see do you watch Fresh off
the Boat? Yes? I do. I didn't watch First Off
the Boat? Was actually want to hear that answer. No, no,
And I don't mean like to put you in the spot.
Do you generally that black shows are just like this
is no not gon relates to So I'm cool with it.

(01:50:57):
I guess it depends on on on the show, on
the quality of the show, you know, like, because the
thing is there's some I was tuning in back in
the day to good times and the Jefferson's as much
as you are like now. But I mean, I don't
watch any have you ever watched Black? Just no, I
know I have watched the Cosmy Show. Yeah, is just

(01:51:20):
probably more important. Don't do that, don't do that, don't
do that, don't do that, do that, don't do that.
It wouldn't be No Blacks if it wan't for no
Cosmy Show. So how could it be more important? I
don't understand that you have to like literally jump twenty
years from one to the next, and maybe you stop

(01:51:41):
off at Martin fro seasons. But when it comes to
good jobs though, I mean he was the elevator operator
at the end of the day. I'm not trying to
say that sentence, but there, I don't know, it's it's like,
what's it seems like they're trying, like I haven't seen

(01:52:03):
a full episode, but from clips I've seen, it seems
like they're trying too hard to be the New Cosby
Show or the Cosby Show of today like that. It
just seems like very transparent in that way, like Okay,
we're gonna try and get across this message. We're gonna
try and you know, like it very message message, you
know that shotols and stuff. We like, well, we really

(01:52:26):
know what June teenth was. If it weren't for that episodes,
we would know what June teenth was. No, it was. No.
I can applaud what they're doing, and I mean, and
I still again, it's a too earnest. It feels like
it needs to be. Though maybe it needs to be.
It's too earnest for us. Everything on that show isn't
for us. It's pulling back the curses of But the

(01:52:48):
postpartum depression episode was a good example of you know
something that I learned, you know what I mean, Like
I didn't think she I never thought the day that
Tracy Ella's character was going to go off on Jennifer
Jennifer's character and deal with post postpartum depression and what.

(01:53:11):
I don't know. I'm just saying that a lot of
I find a lot with with with there's a lot
of our secrets that we're afraid to let America. But
what about what I appreciated about Blackish as a program.
And I don't know if they set out to do
this every year when they break all the stories, but

(01:53:32):
every episode isn't black and black Blackness and black Dog
Black Afro pick black. Like, there's some episodes where it's
some very benign ship, it's just how And then the
next episode is the Nod where he's trying to teach
Junior how to nod at other black people. And it's subtle,
but it's explained in a way where I think it's

(01:53:54):
digestible for But I guess my bigger point is that,
you know, for me, when critically acclaimed ship comes out,
like I'm looking at rotten tomatoes, I'm you know, I
want to see what the most critically claimed shit is.
But I almost feel like with white people sometimes it's
almost like, well, it's they don't want to know about

(01:54:17):
they don't want to know. That's what I'm saying, what's
going on? But I mean, but we can say the
same thing about that. Like for me, it's like it's
certain white ship is just too white for me. Yeah,
but we still know the difference. But we were very

(01:54:38):
we're well burst in the white world, but this because
we have to be there, right, But that's regardless, we
are bursts. So I'm just saying, what other show besides Blackish, Uh,
you know, there's an example of what you're talking about.
I would say it's not a sitcom, it's unscripted, but
Hood ad Jason on Comedy Central with James Davis, so

(01:55:00):
his brother. It's a half hour in scripted show where
comes down and explain to particular concept like today, I'm
gonna show you how black people funk with golf. And
so then he goes to a golf course in Inglewood
and shows this young black golf prodigy who you probably
would have never met in any other capacity, and he
talks to black men who funk with golf and just

(01:55:20):
explains it. Because the tyger Woods look at all of
this ship that has happening. And if you read the
reviews on Her to Jason, white people who wrote reviews
of that show when it first premiered, it was all
from a place of being voyeuristic about black culture. And
I think that's part of what Blackish does for that
viewership on ABC, because you can't sell no hardcore straight

(01:55:42):
up on apologetic black mat like I would. I would
love to see and will never know, but I would
love to have seen what the pitch was for Insecure
for a network, and I don't know where Easter Ray
took the show before it landed on HBO. But I
would just be cure. I would love to just see
some of the post girls. You could be like girls,

(01:56:05):
but we just hanging out girls, black girls. You know
it's better. But how do these shows? You know? I
brought up Good Times, Samford, the Sun, Anything, Good Time
as the muscle of okay. But my point is, like,
certainly that was a way for white people to see

(01:56:26):
into the black world, So like, how are these shows
even original? We didn't get to tell those stories as much?
We were just acting in those stories. Sometimes they weren't
our voice name Good Times? That are you It sounds
like there's a question mark what you're saying, because I
think Good Times addressed like all the But I'm just

(01:56:48):
saying at times we weren't at the helm of writing
those things. So the difference is that now we're getting
to tell our stories. That's That's just saying, that's the difference.
But I want to know, like, so, like, if you
see your show like black, is it like me? Or
is it is that more potent? Lack is more potent

(01:57:09):
in showing us these things than I feel like, I mean,
for God's sake. Yeah, I think it's since a different time.
I'm gonna tell you. In my in my in my
black communications class in college, we discussed like j J
and the hypocrisy of like yeah there's yeah, so yes,
it is very different forty years ago and the way

(01:57:31):
blacks were portraying the stories were told. I'm not saying flavor.
Flavor was needed for public enemy to be more accepted.
That's kind of role was in good times, Like the
message was still the sneaky left effect you weren't expecting you,
but JJ was the distraction that pulled you in and

(01:57:52):
then you learned, Wow, this is how J like this.
Yeah that's right. Yeah, I forgot JJT. Somebody told me
he charges comedy clubs extra. Yes, dynamite. We wanted him
to come on and say dynamite on the Tonight show,

(01:58:13):
and I believe he charges. I think it's rates fifty dollars.
Just say yeah, yeah, I mean, why not you do
get paid for us? Get ready to I can't even
finish it because I'm scared you're caping for J. But uh,
you know, culter, Yeah, I forgot he hold on. That's

(01:58:36):
really a thing. Yeah, dude, google that couple's photos. Yeah,
I'm good. Yeah, all right, we're gonna go in a circle.
I forgot to tell my story. Ship story. It's a quick, simple, alright,
so bookmark whatever you're closing with. So we're talking about

(01:58:58):
Joe to see earlier. And this is like the first
time I ever saw what I consider real celebrity was Joda. See, like,
I've never seen like fucking celebrity. And it's also why
I feel like there haven't been a lot of like
these black as many black entertainers getting caught up in
the bullshit. And maybe it's just black women keep seekers.

(01:59:18):
So they just cut your ass out for grabbing we protectall, yes,
we've been doing what is so? So I'm doing a
comedy show in Valdosta, Georgia, and I'm doing a comedy
show comed Valdosta, v A L d O s t

(01:59:41):
A home of the Valdosta State University Glazers. It's a
city I only know Augusta where from. So we're sitting
out front waiting for the club promoter to come pick
us up, and limo pools up and it's like twenty

(02:00:02):
gorgeous women in the lobby and the limit pools up.
They all stand and they all come out into the little,
you know, the little patio area in front of the hotel,
and me and the other comedian we're just watching this
ship unfold and some fucking sharp promoter this is all
going back to the to the whole wrangler. Who's the
whole wrangler. So this dude comes up, He looks all

(02:00:23):
the women up and down, and he just goes to
you you you it picks like six women and walks
him into the limo. The other women just sit there
kind of sad, but they don't leave, and I'm like,
why don't you leave? You didn't get chose they get
in for later. So to that point, how do you
know this? Like sore? So we're sitting there to see

(02:00:49):
why you tell this story. So we're sitting there and
these gorgeous women and I've just never seen a ship
like this before. I'm like twin too. And they walk
into the fucking limo and through the lobby comes Casey
and Joe Joe just all these shirt unbuttoned, just you know,

(02:01:13):
R and B niggas. Yeah, And and they come walking
through the lobby and just on some black man ship,
they see me and at the community what's going on?
Fellas we go? What's up? Man? Yeah? Yeah, the thing

(02:01:36):
they're getting the limo, the whole wrangler dude. Before he
closes the door, leans his head in south the limo
and goes, all right, ladies, just so y'all know we
all adults and we're gonna get into some adult ship
in this limousine. If you ain't about no adult ship.
Now it's the time to leave the limousine. And you

(02:01:59):
see the girls just waiting on the bench. I'll take
a half step to the limo, waiting for one of
them out. Nobody fucking moved in the limo ship and
the fucking promoter, the whole wrangling. They get to the limo,
closes the door, looks over at me and Henry Coban
sitting on the bench, and just goes, one day, boys,

(02:02:27):
it just rolls up immediately. I have to go tell
fifty dollars with the jokes and a pizza bar? Can
we can? We just want to go home? Can we?
We always about to go around the table something, So

(02:02:52):
tell us one great thing that happened in memories, music, TV, whatever,
Just this was a shifty year. But what what nice?
What was your cat video. Don't try to play me
on what I'm gonna say, but I'm gonna just say this,

(02:03:13):
it is real pop culture. Like it was a shitty year,
but at least I got sterling Kay Brown. This is Us.
That's how I feel because that was your cat video.
Now I would like to assume what your answer was, Fante,
but I would ask you what was your highlight of
Like twitt seventeen was getting married? Man? Okay, now what

(02:03:34):
was your real answer? Okay, my real answer season No, no, no, Seriously,
the way you're describing uh, like she's got to have
it in comparison to Atlanta and how it feels kind
of God, Mora is like that for the wire, Like
you watched Gomera and then you look at the wire like, yeah, nigga,

(02:03:56):
these young boys about to run your ass off the court.
It's like it's like that I'm starting take that. I
don't take that out and it's on Netflix. First, I
feel like I should explain sing NBC this this is
us in all his accepted and being a strong black

(02:04:18):
man with a strong black wife that both work on
the same show together. And then his wife ca Letchi.
He's married to the woman he's married to the woman
who plays kind of like the woman who took on
him as a little kid on the show. And this
is in real life, real life. Yes, when he thinks
her all the time. I would like to thank my
beautiful black meant his wife on the show. I love

(02:04:39):
her to her, Louis Kaye's wife. He didn't have a
good year, man, he didn't. We just skipped over. That
was all the sexual That's that's the whole other show
to it. So al right, Bill, best thing that happened, Yeah,
anything I got, Okay, I moved out away from on

(02:05:00):
cokehead alcoholic roommate and his weirdo friend damn at nic
coke and Nia how you do a stimulate and of
the pressant he turned away was even stop missing, no surprising.
I need it for the rent for for real, Like
the two years I lived in that apartment. That was
partially the reason why I hardly ever left. WHOA protect

(02:05:23):
your ship? Yeah, I mean it was my TV in
the living room, my mac Minio there should have locked
that shut up like a motail six. But that love
column the back of the TV where you can't take
the coactive cable. That was the best thing to happen
me this year. Um, I had a tough summer with
the sciatica. But I'm doing but I'm doing good with

(02:05:47):
the diabetes. Let's leave it at that. Damn you no
longer gonna be sugar Steve. Bill's not here, Bill Sherman's here.
So I think that's why that's scrolling through my photos
because Apple, this album is show you moment you zoom
them out to, like the year and your pictures of you.

(02:06:09):
Literally you were literally going, that's what I should have
been doing. Uh knee jerk um. Starting to this is
gonna sound fund up like I'm a horrible father. I
don't want you to think I'm a horrible Uh leaning
into fatherhood a little more. He's nineteen months now. Right

(02:06:34):
now that he's fifteen, I figured, yeah, I made a
noise box. Yeah, and so this year he's like doing
fills and ship and I'm like, okay, yeah, I can
get with this ship my fucker, repeated me. Yeah he's
starting to get a personality. Yeah. I called him in
the pot with like he was in the kitchen, pulled
the pot out the cabin and had a spoon. It

(02:06:55):
was like pretending to stir. I'm like, oh, want to cook? Okay,
so yeah, i'd say that I don't some life ship
like that was like dope, and like that's like having
a kid is weird because it makes you focus more.
Like I have less time now as a human being,

(02:07:15):
but I'm more productive than I've ever been. And I
don't know how that bounces out. Maybe it's the whole
question love thirty job thing, but yeah, because I don't realize.
You don't realize how much time you had until you
have a kid, Like, man, I gotta I was just
talking around all the time. Yeah, I know more. You

(02:07:36):
know what I did that was amazing. I cleaned up
motherfucking shop, cleaned up shot like five people. Yes, well
right now, I mean you have to sometimes, No, I

(02:07:59):
mean to spring clean the fuccory out of your life.
I did that on my birthday. You gotta do that. Wait,
why are you looking on the press? Your gripes are
losing their job to be the highlight of your year's all,
even even two of them aren't on payroll. It's just like,

(02:08:19):
I literally off that I have done with this. Yeah,
you want me to be happy? Right? Cutting people off
was like the greatest thing I've ever ever learned how
to do. I think I might have gotten too addicted
to it is one of them. Um, of course, okay, yeah,
edit edit, no, no, no, no, I'm just that was mine.

(02:08:46):
Oh nice one. I don't know what. How do you
all firing? Um? I got fired over Twitter? Oh wait,
you got fired over I found out over Twitter that
I was fired. What what was the job? Radio? Radio
is one of the coldest firing. They just sucking. One day.
You just get a call, Yeah, don't come here, no

(02:09:06):
more like what don't come They fire you in a
see through room in front of everybody is going to
get breakfast in the morning. Yeah, I woke up to
like twenty text message just talking about hey man, are
you okay? What's going on? I get on Twitter, chrip
my Twitter that morning and we love Roy, we always
miss We're gonna miss him, and like somewhere in the
bottom of the reply, no, this is torst. This is

(02:09:31):
if you just google Roy would drink your fire? Like
the article is still that. I'm still reading the Birmingham
News like that morning on two I'm getting ready to
get up and go to work, brush my teeth and
I go what, Oh, I ain't got no job. All right, Well,
I guess I'm moving back to l A Y. I'll
tell you the last the last radio job I got
fired from. They got us. They was like, yo, we're
having a staff meeting, right, so everybody comes to the

(02:09:52):
staff meeting, ready, do you know envelopes? So we're switching
signals and changing the FO at seven and you know
it's a little bit of seven because it was a
black on radio. Of course radio to coldest man. I
fired to do this year over email, and I've I've

(02:10:14):
been told that I was an asshole for it. You
know what that whole all right, y'all believe that whole
face to face thing, dumping, dumping or firing? Like do
you believe that whole? Like it depends on how much
time was invested in the right will you? But do
you really respect it? It depends on how much time

(02:10:35):
was invested in the over eight years. But they live
in another city so that I could have done it
by phone. But my feelings as I started making the
decision to fire this person was no, You've had this
entire time to get better and you did not. So

(02:10:56):
the totality of our relationship has you been you half
assid it to that's more egregious. Yes, yes, weird workshop
the relationship and therapy and all of that ship. And
then when it came trying to do it, I was like, man,
funk it. I ain't gonna waste some of time on
this ship because I know if I call you it's
gonna be a whole another funk out all that. Man,

(02:11:16):
I mean, just send this email clicks and make it
clean and keep it moving. Advantage off there you go. Wow,
this has been an incredible, lengthy, lengthy two part Uh
you know it's probably just one part. You're gonna serve
it up straight. No, ye ain't. Nobody's gonna make it

(02:11:36):
through this ship. They didn't skip ahead now it ain't.
It ain't two thousand and sixteen out the dope a
little bit. Jesus Christ. Please, let's cut it, well, everybody,
let's cut it. Let's let's let's have let's just say that,
you know, let's let's be happy that and grateful that
we're still here and alive and yeah man, and one

(02:12:01):
last thing, sorry, before we leave, can we attempt to
name everybody that was on the show in just thank you,
just just to see what we can, just to see
what we can do, just to recapitulate, just to see
if we can Jimmy Jam, Jimmy Jam, Baby baby Face,
the Emotions, Carchaela Garrett Rights right as Chris Rock and

(02:12:26):
the Soul Training Search, Q Tip Prodigy mane Um Who else?
Damn Peterson, Peterson, I can't even name one. Uh just
DJ Premier, Heather Hunter, Donnie Simpson, Boot, Stephen Hill. Where

(02:12:49):
are you? I talked to him, I saw him. Then
he's just doing stuff. He still has juice. I'm getting,
uh not that y'all care, Yes, exactly, I do care. Okay, yeah,
I'm getting the rest of my Soul Tiain episodes. You know,
my dad had a chance to buy into that, buying

(02:13:10):
the soldiery like in the early days, like my dad
hired Don Cornelius in Chicago. What oh my god. We
never got to the story, all right, So you're gonna
have to come back so we could have the official
Royal Wood episode because you were just here. This was fun.
I know that, but this was our year in recap episode,

(02:13:31):
not the Royal Wood. To save my daddy's civil rights
woke ship for later that I did that twelve years
and I have questions about doing print calls professionally, like
how does that wait to the roy Wood jaw one
in ten years to three services? Wow? But they fake him.

(02:13:52):
I was a lunatic. You were doing was leg Okay,
you were a master? You were? And I kept the
raws in case anybody want to oallenged me. I got
like ten minutes fucking any prank I've done. I got
a ten minute sucking master for anybody who dares say
that my ship was fake. Like, that's the one thing
I'll get. It's the only question people questions comments. Yeah,

(02:14:13):
because there's some affection. Now, yeah, that's a lot offection.
Were you the one that did the roaches and the
chicken cols? That's a classic, man, come on. That was
based on some real ship. A lady went to a
hood seafood spot in Birmingham and she found roaches fried
into the bread and of the chicken. And I called

(02:14:35):
her as the supervisor of the restaurant said, you lyne
because that roach roaches ain't even that color. That's oh man,
that it was funny. Look at Nick, I'm trying to
be professional man that Yeah, we gotta talk. We gotta
talk about that because I'll tell you how pranks connected

(02:14:56):
with hip hop and how like so many fucking Southern
mixtape niggers really helped me out. Anyway, Uh, we didn't
think shout out robbing the d as well anyway. And also,
Michael McDonald want to give a shout out to Alex
and Tyler. Yes, who are are fearless editors who helped
make this show. Shout out to Slitsky and James jo

(02:15:19):
Are y'all still with King Jane? Yes? Anyway, Uh, we
will see you guys next year and uh like literally
we're not taking any time off. We'll be back next week. Well,
I don't know if I'll be here, but you know,
God willing if if I'm strying any anyone else, I'm

(02:15:40):
just doing credit se Well, I mean we already hit
up all those people. Just forgot to mention Alex and
Tyler East Coast got love for Dr James Newdalt. You
robbed your eyes when I said, oh I rub my
eyes at the East Coast because I'm thinking the Barnes.
But yes, okay, yeah, anyway, anyway, all right, Yes, this
has been a two lengthy episode. Of of course I

(02:16:03):
forgot the name of my show. Of course, love Supreme.
We will see you on the next go round. Holds
up on Instagram and check out the mixed appreement because
we put our favorite songs of the year. Let's go,
let's stop. Why are we not professional anyway? Thank you
very much, Lady Telman. We'll see you on the next
go round. Of course. Love Supreme is a production of

(02:16:29):
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