QLS Classic: Cree Summer

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic
episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome to another episode of QLs Classic. I'm Quest Love
and we hear quest Love Supreme. We like to dig
it into the archives to bring you some really amazing
interviews and stories from past episodes. Coming up next, we're

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going to talk to actress Chris Summer about our pioneering
work on the.

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Speaker 8 (02:59):
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she's here.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, Chris Summer, I mean in your trip for years.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
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Speaker 9 (03:18):
Call from Saskatchewan to Toronto to North Richmond, Sherman Oaks.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know, let me fish, let me do it. Again.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Let me.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
Supreme roll call Supremo, Supremo role cal Suprema son son
sub freeo roll.

Speaker 10 (03:46):
I didn't even get there. I was still trying to
get there.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
I think I met.

Speaker 10 (03:50):
Everybody was looking at their books and I looked at
my empty hairs.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
You well from Saskatchewan.

Speaker 9 (03:58):
I started in Saskatchewan, then I went to Toronto, then
I went to North Richmond.

Speaker 10 (04:02):
That I went to Sherman Oaks.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I make so many jokes about Saskatchewan, but don't think
I know anyone from Substatchell.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Creston. This
is Cree Supreme only on Pandora. We have a team
Supreme with us. We got Sugar Steve and Boss Bill
and Fantigolo and.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
How's it going. I'm sweating.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
We are extremely happy to have our guests with us today.
She is I mean, is she our first Boho crush ever?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Second? Second? Second? Second?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
You know.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yes, because you said first said first, I saw Lisa.
First battle is that we're doing.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's not Denise versus Freddy, It's Freddy. Freddy was to me.
Freddy was more idealistic like she was.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Was you know what I mean, Like she was just
sonny and like you really like you would take Freddie
on to your mama. Yeah, Like Denise was just kind
of flighty and kind of like exactly, y'all are talking
Denise versus Freddy.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So but I was just talking about who I saw first. Well, yeah,
we technically my out.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
My first question It was I was more questioning on
Freddie Brooks than Denise. Denise didn't strike me as bowho.
She just striked me as somebody couldn't keep a job,
and I just I couldn't fuck with that.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Young favorite employee ever. Ladies, John please welcome Chris Summer.

Speaker 10 (05:41):
Yes, it's a delight to be here.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Shout out to Zoe for giving me this number because
love I had to, you know, hit her up fifty
two billion times. She's one of those people that might
answer the phone this week.

Speaker 10 (06:00):
You know.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
Now I feel bad that I disturb my roll call.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
That Stevens were like legendary fighters.

Speaker 10 (06:09):
Yeah, okay, but that feels yeah, hate relationship.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Going, But that's Steve. You know, you'll learn to hate
them in five minutes.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
You'll experience all the all the emotions.

Speaker 10 (06:20):
I already have that spent moment I had to spit.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I gotta know that you Okay. Today you told me
that you are. We're going to a Star Wars convention.

Speaker 9 (06:34):
Yes, and I am now endeared to you because you
let me come in a little early so I can
still get there. It's a pop up Star Wars bar
called The Dark Side, and it's been traveling all over
America and it's interactive. They haven't told me too much.
I do know that there's the possibility of a burlesque show,
all the chicks representing all the different planets in the

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Star Wars universe.

Speaker 10 (06:56):
Doesn't it sound amazing? Yes? Look I got this.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
The bar that Jap of the Hut, was it right?

Speaker 9 (07:05):
That's what you're I mean, I don't know what this
bar is. They just call it the Dark Side. I'm
hoping the band is going to be there, because that
band is legendary.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I mean, yes, yes, you really are a Star Wars
what's your I am? I love it?

Speaker 7 (07:22):
What's your favorite all time scene in and all the
Star Wars things combined?

Speaker 10 (07:27):
It's probably when Luke.

Speaker 9 (07:28):
I mean, it's kind of dour and a little maudlin,
but I love that moment when Luke when his parents
are dead and they're charred, and they're just fucking sitting there,
you know, frozen. And he comes up out of that
beautiful sphere that they live in, and he looks and
there's those two moons, like those that clear sky, and

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those two blood red moons.

Speaker 10 (07:50):
I don't know. That just always has rocked me.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
I was going to say, have you seen the Last Jedi?
But that's a stupid question. Of course, what did you think?

Speaker 6 (07:58):
You know?

Speaker 9 (07:58):
I just loved the nostalgia of it. I mean, everybody
was getting so fucking hung up on you know, why
is lay a flying and ship?

Speaker 10 (08:05):
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 9 (08:06):
I mean, I think my heart is just so all
encompassing all things Star Wars, except for of course, well know,
he shall not be named jar Jar Banks, So I mean,
you know, yeah may so, no fucking like it either,

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That's the only one I don't do.

Speaker 10 (08:29):
But yeah, I mean I liked it.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I liked it.

Speaker 10 (08:31):
It's hard to it's hard to make me not like
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Seen it yet.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm looking for as a as a so called nerd
who is not that much into science fiction. Yeah, it's
it's really hard for me to figure out which side
is correct, because a lot of Star Wars dweebs are
like Prince Vans.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, they're not really feeling this film.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
But yet I trust a Rotten Tomatoes ninety one when
I see it now, I mean, who am I to
believe that all these critics were just blindly going to
give this a claim across the board? Really no, because
they ended up with a now report one one manly
Portman and now those three middle one suck.

Speaker 10 (09:13):
Yeah, yeah, I think we can all agree those were drag.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
So you liked the New One though?

Speaker 10 (09:17):
I did. I had a good time, man, I was
so excited to get there. And favorite Star Wars movie
of all time A New Hope, of course.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah. I'm hearing a lot of people say Rogue one
these days.

Speaker 10 (09:27):
Now they can have it.

Speaker 9 (09:30):
No, I liked it, but it ain't no New Hope,
and a New Hope just changed my my world. I
remember my daddy who's left now he's dead.

Speaker 10 (09:39):
He he and I loved Star Wars together.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
New Hope. He just were you trying to explain it
to me like football?

Speaker 7 (09:52):
I was telling Amre, who's not the biggest Star Wars fan,
that New Hope.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Was episode one, Episode one, which is technically episode episode
Well yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (10:00):
I mean it was the very first one that came out,
and I remember just this whole universe and this whole
concept of the force.

Speaker 10 (10:07):
I loved it.

Speaker 9 (10:08):
It made sense to me being not a religious person,
it occurred for me in a very religious way.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
So did you ever have any dreams of, especially with
all the voice over working, Yeah, and working with like
Frank Oz and all that stuff, like, to ever do
these things?

Speaker 9 (10:25):
Well, you want to hear something crazy, My father, Don
Frank's was the first one to ever give voice to
Boba Fett in the Star Wars animation. Yeah, because you know,
we never hear Boba Fett speak, so that in animation
they let him speak. And then a couple of years later,
George Lucas did an animated cartoon called Droid's and Ewoks,

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and I got to play Princess Nissa of the Ewoks.

Speaker 10 (10:52):
So that I think I was ten years old.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Oh wow, was your father a voice actor?

Speaker 10 (10:58):
Yeah, that's how I started. It was just your nepotis.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
From the beginning.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I found where she told us in the in the
so I'm driving the car, thank you, I appreciated.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
In the back.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Let us know what we can ask directions.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
So you were you were born in Saskatchewan.

Speaker 10 (11:16):
I was, Actually, you want to hear something crazy. I
was born in in Sino California.

Speaker 9 (11:20):
Y born in Sino California, And I know, and then
right away, I think at the maybe six or seven months,
my parents dropped out of society and moved to Saskatchewan.
And I was raised on an Indian reservation with the
plains Kre Indians. We had lived in a house that
my father made out of mud, which is traditional for
this tribe.

Speaker 10 (11:40):
And we were there until I was about seven years
oldy Oh, it was beautiful. I mean well, I mean
it was definitely hard.

Speaker 9 (11:48):
I don't know if you've ever been in a Canadian
tundra and the plane and the plains in the dead
of fucking winter. I mean it's, you know, below forty
it's pretty fucking cold.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
Yeah, you have to use your lightsaber.

Speaker 10 (12:02):
To open your eyes.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
But we.

Speaker 10 (12:07):
It was powerful.

Speaker 9 (12:09):
I mean I was exposed to all kinds of beautiful
native music, pow wow music, payota music, dancing powow as
a girl. It was a nice way to grow up,
I'd say. And then after that we left there res
and we lived nomadic in a school bus for a
couple of years and then finally settled in Toronto.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (12:29):
Yeah, it sounds like a half of Freddy's backstory. I
think they got it from me. I mean, I remember
when I walked into audition. They had this idea that
this that Freddie Winifred was from Santa Fe and so
they and I know that they wanted her to be,
you know, have a white mother, was what they said.
And then they just kind of left it open end.

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And then I just remember them after auditioning, they were
interviewing me, and I could see their wills turning. And
then the next time I went back to audition, the
script was almost almost just the just the interview, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
What I mean? So, were you the only child or
did you have something?

Speaker 9 (13:06):
I have a baby brother. His name is Rainbow's son.
He's also an actor. I don't know if there's any
geeks out there. He was in the original Stargate with
Jason Momoa. We're all very conted.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah that's kind of strange.

Speaker 10 (13:17):
Yeah. Yeah, he's ten years my junior.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
So how are you well, not even how are you
pulled into acting? Your father was my father was an
voice over work, but you guys live this whole he
was doing more.

Speaker 10 (13:30):
Than voiceover work. I mean he when I was, like
I said, I was born in Encino.

Speaker 9 (13:34):
My parents met. My mother's a dancer and my father
was was an actor, and he was an on camera
actor at first.

Speaker 10 (13:43):
He was did his well.

Speaker 9 (13:46):
The movie that they met was Francis Ford Coppola's very
first film and fred Astaire's very last film. It was
a musical called Finian's Rainbow starring fred Astae Patulla Clark
and my father and my mother was a dancer in
the chorus, and that's how they met. So he was
a very very popular working actor for years and years

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and years. And she danced all over all over Broadway,
you know, and Sweet Charity with Juliet Prowse and you know,
Shirley McLean and they were really magic.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
So what was the decision to leave?

Speaker 5 (14:23):
They were disillusioned.

Speaker 10 (14:27):
They really were disillusioned.

Speaker 9 (14:28):
I mean, he was really getting tired of playing bad
guys that hurt babies and women. And she was my
mother as beautiful and black as night, and she was
tired of, you know, being the only one or never
getting to be the one. And they just said fuck it.
And they sold everything they had and moved to Saskatchewan,
where my father had been dig this crazy thing. He's

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had so many incarnations. But for a while he was
the spiritual advisor for this heavy metal band called Crowbar.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
Ar did this tour of all the Indian reservations in Canada,
and my old man just fell in love with.

Speaker 10 (15:06):
Red Pheasant this reservation.

Speaker 9 (15:08):
Then he really became family to them, and I think
that's where the seeds were planted. And they told him
if he ever wanted to come back, he could, and
he came back when he found my mama.

Speaker 8 (15:18):
Wow, there's a gorgeous picture of the two of you online.
There is his hair braided.

Speaker 10 (15:23):
Yeah, did you wear a lot?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (15:25):
I wear my parents' hats.

Speaker 9 (15:26):
You know, I've been wearing It's so trendy now, but
you know, I've been wearing these hats since I was
a little girl.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
So as a young girl, did you have dreams of
getting it? How did you get into the industry.

Speaker 9 (15:41):
Or I always wanted to be a performer. My parents
performed even though we were on the res You know.
My father did this amazing show on the reservation called
The Insanity of One Man and it was just his
ramblings and his thoughts. He'd had a projector he'd play autoharp,
and then my mother would dance, you know. She the
tap dancer retired from the National Tap Company of Canada

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at sixty nine years old. And so just watching them,
I really never considered doing anything else. I wanted to
be a singer and a songwriter and an actress. And
then when we left the res my father that's when
he became a voiceover actor, and then watching him, I
just wanted to.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Do it too.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Did he have a like, was he of a male
blink variety?

Speaker 6 (16:25):
Like?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
What type of voice did your father?

Speaker 9 (16:26):
My father just had this really low and rich, resonant,
low raspy voice, really beautiful. Yeah, I mean, but he
did everything. I mean, he could alter himself. He was
so talented. Can you tell I missed my old man?

Speaker 10 (16:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Okay, so you're actual, I mean you're speaking voice, and
I mean it's so there's such a not a trademark
on it, but it's so distinctive.

Speaker 10 (16:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Did you have this sort of raspy curse, this kind
of voice when you were a kid? I did?

Speaker 9 (17:06):
I Mean, my mama used to joke about it that
I always sounded like I had a mentalated cool hanging
out of my mouth. I mean even when I was
like three years old, you know, was like Mama, you know,
it's just this low, kind of froggy.

Speaker 10 (17:18):
And my youngest daughter, Hero has that same voice.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, how old is she?

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Hero?

Speaker 10 (17:24):
Peregrine storm Born is four years old?

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Oh wow, she's a star on Instagram.

Speaker 9 (17:31):
I mean we got to an elevator after Dan's class
and this chick was like Hero, you know, and it was, yeah,
a little it was a little creepy.

Speaker 10 (17:38):
I should Yeah, we spoke to pause.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Sorry.

Speaker 11 (17:41):
We spoke to U Laila Hathaway recently about the way
her voice sounds strikingly similar to her father's.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Isn't it.

Speaker 11 (17:51):
The same as people looking physically? Yeah, their facial features
or voices almost.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
The same thing.

Speaker 10 (17:57):
It's Sheila.

Speaker 9 (17:58):
It's funny that you bring up, because you're exactly right.
When you can have a white man and an Asian
man who look the same and they will sound the same.
It's jaw placement, and it's all these things that give
us all these sounds, and that's why they sound so similar.

Speaker 10 (18:15):
It's really freaky, you know.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
Hashtag jaw placement.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, right now is a very hypnotic thing to every syllable,
and it's an articulation.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
That she does voiceover work people. Yeah, but where does
that come from? Like were you trained for this? Like
how did you even enter?

Speaker 9 (18:41):
Well, like I said, it was it was pure nepotism.
My father was doing a voice on Inspector Gadget and
I was he Well, he would go on and off
with with Welker, with Frank Welker, just sometimes guessing and
doing doctor Claw, and then he would do a lot
of in Daniel's, a lot of henchmen, a lot of

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you know, teachers in the school and shit like that.
And then I remember, but this is just when he
was auditioning. We didn't even know if he had the gig.
And then he said, could you audition Cree, which is
just being in the right place at the right time,
the child of the right person. And then I lucked
out and got it, you know, yeah, I got Penny.
And then it just really steamrolled from there. I found

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myself working so much. I really wasn't even in school.
I was singing jingles and doing every voiceover that came
down the pike in Toronto, you know, Okay, yeah, oh
well I was. I was living in Canada at the time.
I didn't move to LA until I was seventeen.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Oh really yeah, No, Inspector Gadget came from Okay, yeah.

Speaker 9 (19:45):
It came from Deek Entertainment, which is a Canadian company. Oh,
I mean, but in Toronto is where I did you
know all the George Lucas productions. It's where I was
in the very first Hello Kitty cartoon. I played her
arch nemesis, cat Nip. God, what else did we do?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Hello Kitty had a cartoon, actual.

Speaker 10 (20:04):
Had an actual cartoon.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, Hello Kitty's been around for quite a long a
long time.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I've seen Hello Kitty. I just never knew it was
a car, actual cartoon with voices, and.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And she had enemies.

Speaker 10 (20:14):
She had enemies.

Speaker 9 (20:15):
This really weird chick name cat Nip, which is a
kick ass name, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
You? Guys?

Speaker 8 (20:24):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Sorry, I have a question.

Speaker 7 (20:31):
Do you have like duel citizenship?

Speaker 10 (20:33):
I do have dual citizenship? I love this guy, yet.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Give it?

Speaker 7 (20:43):
No, I was I was just wondering what country we
should get married.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
She's married.

Speaker 10 (20:48):
I'm actually not there, hold on bringing no, I I
haven't man and he ain't going nowhere. I guess I
should be married. You know it feels man you are committed. Yeah, yeah,
it's not it's not important.

Speaker 7 (21:09):
And I was just kidding, just kidding.

Speaker 10 (21:14):
She lives in Canada.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
On vacation in Niagaphone.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I know it's not looking at her like that.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
See what high school? Did you go to high school?

Speaker 9 (21:24):
I went to high school in Toronto for about ten minutes.
I actually started school in the fourth grade and I
dropped out right before I started the tenth grade. So
I have six, almost six years of formal education. I
went to the Toronto High School for the Performing Arts.
There was thirty six students.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Wow, in the entire high school.

Speaker 10 (21:42):
The entire high school. Fridays were dedicated to cleaning the school,
all of us. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
So what was in between tenth grade and being seventeen
and come into.

Speaker 9 (21:50):
Well tenth I was honest, honest to god, I just
was so. I was kind of burnt out. You know,
I was working a lot, and I remember going to
my father, my best friend and I who's in LA
she's an actress too, Tamara Taylor.

Speaker 10 (22:05):
She and I we just wanted to leave Toronto.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
We had so many dreams about coming to la I
wanted to come here and have a band, and I
was going to make music and that was really my dream.
And she was going to come here at the time
and be a model, which she'd hate for me to
say now that all changed, That all change, and she
of course committed to being an incredible actress. But we
looked at each other at we had just turned sixteen,

(22:31):
and we said, do you want to do this anymore?
And we said, no fucking way. And I said to
my dad, I think I want to drop out of
high school and he said.

Speaker 10 (22:38):
What tuki so long? Man?

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Wow?

Speaker 10 (22:41):
I were so disappointed that I'd gone this long.

Speaker 9 (22:44):
And he said, you know, I was just giving you space, man,
because I thought I thought you might might like it.

Speaker 10 (22:48):
And I said, I I can't stand it. You know
that was an option.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (22:54):
Oh, she felt the same way. I mean, they really
had such disdain for the education system.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
And you must have had a hell of us savings
already for someone I'm just doing.

Speaker 10 (23:02):
Okay, I can't here, okay, okay, secure at the bag damn.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
So from that point on, once you came here, what
was your first break?

Speaker 9 (23:14):
I guess my first break was working for an amazing
woman whose since retired. I'm miss sterely named Andrea Romano,
and she directed a Steven Spielberg cartoon called Tiny Tunes.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh Yeah, obscure, and.

Speaker 9 (23:28):
I played Elmira Almira. Yeah you know, I'm going to
hug you and squeeze you think you go on the paper, Bobby.

Speaker 10 (23:38):
Hilly, that's what I know. Yeah, that was my first
job in LA.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
How do you develop because you do so many voiceovers?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, how do you develop, uh, the specific characteristics in
the voices.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
That you do.

Speaker 9 (23:56):
Luckily, they give they give you a picture of the
character and then they usually get you like a little
bitty paragraph describing the character. And I remember looking at Elmira.
The paragraph threw me because it said she was Elmer
Fudd's niece, and I remember, yeah, it just and I

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remember thinking like, oh, Ship, I can't do an Elmer Fudd.

Speaker 10 (24:20):
I'm fucked.

Speaker 9 (24:21):
And then I looked down and I saw that she
had like a gerbil skull in the middle of her bow.
Do you guys remember, And then I read the lines
and I just thought, this chick is bad, ship nuts.
I'm just going to play her so crazy and just
see what happens. But I really had no expectation because
I didn't put that, you know, that Elma fudd elment

(24:43):
into so I.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Can't believe I never made that connection.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
And now you look at her face and it's like
she looks.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Tell me that Tiny Tuns came out before a Different World?

Speaker 10 (24:56):
Yes it did, Yes, I'm I mean if it didn't
come out before Different World, I got booked it before
a Different World.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Oh okay, you came aboard a Different World eighty eight?
I thought.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Ninety okay, well slightly one year right made it tomatow.
So yeah, you just look at the character and you're like.

Speaker 9 (25:19):
Yeah, and I read the paragraph and see what I
usually go by what I feel, you know what I mean?
You get a feeling when you look. I do anyway,
and maybe it's just accumulated through all these years.

Speaker 10 (25:31):
I get it just to look at the eyes.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
So they're not telling you, like what's directing to go
with them?

Speaker 8 (25:36):
They do.

Speaker 9 (25:37):
They give you a really tiny thing that says she's thirteen,
or he's fourteen and he really likes sports, he's shy,
he's always got a cold, or you know. Sometimes they
give you little things or you know, but you really
have to make it up yourself, which is you.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Know, acting, that's the cool part, man, are the what
would so taping tiny tunes?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
As a voice actor? How long would an episode take
in order for you to get all the voices down for?

Speaker 10 (26:05):
Maybe like an hour maybe if it's full cast, maybe
an hour and a half.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Is this per episode or just like a season or
per episode? And would you go to a studio? Like
how would you do it?

Speaker 6 (26:15):
You just like this?

Speaker 9 (26:16):
You go and go in the studio and have all
the chairs in a circle like us, and a booth
with your stand and your script and then and those
are the best ones. I mean oftentimes now things have
changed so much and everybody's so damn busy. Oftentimes it's
just me alone.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Yeah, you just read your lines and then they put
it together later what did they mix it? But at
the time you're doing that, you were all doing it together.

Speaker 9 (26:40):
But there used to be a really golden age when
we used to all record together and it felt like
you were kind of doing live radio, which is fun,
which I used to do in Toronto too, a lot
of live radio.

Speaker 10 (26:49):
There's fun.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Who are the uh kind of the veterans of that
voice circle? I know the word I know mel Blank
and I know Marsh Maurice Lamars.

Speaker 10 (27:01):
Yeah, another Canadian.

Speaker 9 (27:02):
A lot of us are Canadian, by the way, I
would I mean listen Tress McNeil, Rob Paulson, Tara Strong,
Robin Tayer and other Canadians Jennifer Hale, Grey.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Delisle, Like who were the idols, the gods.

Speaker 10 (27:17):
The well for me? I mean, I really look up
to Tress McNeil.

Speaker 9 (27:21):
She's you probably know her from like Futurama and the Simpsons.

Speaker 10 (27:25):
I mean, she's just one of these.

Speaker 9 (27:27):
I remember when I walked into Tiny Tunes that was
the first time I met Tress, and she did six
voices in a row, talking to herself literally the entire scene.
And I remember at seventeen just sitting down going, fuck,
I am way out of my depth, man, because up
until then, I think I was okay as a voiceover artist,

(27:49):
but I don't know if I was committed to being
really good, because sometimes when you do things as a kid,
you don't even mean it per se. You know, commitment
and real passion, I think is something that I developed
in voiceover over time. Like you said, falling in love
with people and admiring their talent, and that in that

(28:10):
show was when I made a conscious decision to be good.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Is it hard to to turn on? Sometimes?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Say, if you're on set and you might have gotten
a text that blah blah blah's in the hospital or
someone passes away, and suddenly it's like, all right, well, production,
you got to turn on.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Let's go Like how hard is it to well?

Speaker 9 (28:34):
You know, because you no, you, I mean, you do
this too. You know exactly what the answer to that is,
you do it as best you can, you know. I mean,
I've been in that situation several times, and I think
one thing, I just being a born gypsy and a
hereditary performer, it definitely is the show must go on.

(28:58):
So I will show up as best as I can,
be a little afraid at the edges, and when they
yell cut probably fault to pieces, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
So how did you get word of a Different World developing?

Speaker 9 (29:22):
I had a manager is when I got to l
a very kind man, Larry Robbins retired now, and he
he and his wife let me live with him actually
for the first six months, and he would drive me
to all my auditions, and I think Different World was
the first audition I had was for.

Speaker 10 (29:37):
I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna get you, sucker.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
I know, I was not.

Speaker 9 (29:40):
I did not do the part. I didn't get any
parts that was my audition for. I auditioned for the
part that Don Lewis played.

Speaker 12 (29:47):
Imagine you can imagine audition for the part that Amory
Johnson taken off.

Speaker 10 (30:00):
Listen.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
I I just I think I just went there and
just took a dump. I was probably just awful. But
the next audition was a different world. So that was
a real score, really really lucky.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
So you're actually one of the few people in a
different world that didn't go through school days. Yeah, so
was there a moment for you to get on in
that production or in that movie or never?

Speaker 10 (30:25):
Just that didn't happen long prior.

Speaker 9 (30:28):
Yeah, okay, but they were already all friends and everybody
year and I came the second year, so they were
already doing that.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Because so when you came along, that's the year that
Wi Allen also came board.

Speaker 10 (30:40):
We all came and Charnelle Brown and so Dad, we
all came together.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
So you came on the retooling what okay?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Explaining to me, I wasn't you know, because there was
an Internet and none of that stuff that, So what
was the problem with whatever happened the first year that
they cleaned up and then I.

Speaker 10 (31:00):
Don't know, I do know that.

Speaker 9 (31:02):
I can't call her Lisa, but okay, well Lisa got
pregnant and so she wasn't going to return to a
different world was what we were told at the time.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Okay, but also with Marissa leaving and the director who
was the first director before, I don't know that Debbie
came along, Like I just know that they just had a.

Speaker 9 (31:22):
Complete Yeah, they felt they I mean yeah, and Debbie
came in saying, let's make it like a real black college.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
The first season is like the week of season like,
that's it didn't really look good until she came.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
It wasn't It wasn't one person who was the star.
It was kind of cool. Everybody.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Dwayne like finally fell in love with each other the
last episode, or at least she kissed him the last episode.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
She went back to the house. She was still at
the Cosby Houseyne.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Was so traumatized.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
He looked up with.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
So what was it like for those was it four
years for you? That was college.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
And work?

Speaker 10 (32:01):
Were you at the time I started it? The just
turn God, I think I was just about to turn eighteen.
I guess are you tired of talking about a different world?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
You know?

Speaker 10 (32:09):
I love it's a good world. Do you know what
I love about a different world?

Speaker 9 (32:12):
There was a lot of times, a long stretch of time,
nobody fucking talked about Different World. Yeah, And I feel
like Different World is very is you know, it was
over and then nobody talked about it, and then just
recently it's become this real retroactive, especially with You'll come back.
It's just it's like, yes, I mean, maybe you loved it,
you know, forever, and you were consistent, But the truth is,

(32:35):
you know, well, you know, a Different World really wasn't
I mean, it was a hit. It was a hit
because it was in the right place, you know, we
were right after Cosby and then. But the truth is, independently,
you know, we really didn't get a lot of love,
you know.

Speaker 10 (32:50):
And that's the truth.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
But every single now about every single black household had
you on.

Speaker 10 (32:55):
So maybe yes, I went knots very farm, I would
get a lot of right in LA.

Speaker 9 (33:01):
Otherwise it was really not that popular. I mean, I
feel like it's much more beloved now.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Yeah, And I mean it's just I mean, I think
the importance of it is more understood. I mean, for me,
you know, that was the first time I really saw college.
I mean, like my you know, my grandmother and my
grandparents they were teachers, and so I had people in
my family that were college graduates. But it was just
always an idea. It's just you hear about this college thing,
but it's like, okay, so what is that? But then

(33:31):
a different world came and you actually saw like, oh,
so there's this place after high school that you go
call college and what does.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
It look like?

Speaker 5 (33:38):
And you know, you have you know, the calf, like
the whole going with you know, mister gangs like all
that like that. Really yeah, yeah, that was you know,
that was like, oh ship. And so I actually talked
to Kadeen. It's been like a couple of years of
but I just had a chance to tell him, you know,
I man, just how much that show did for me,
like going to and graduating from an HBCU.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I mean, a different world.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
I know, a lot of cats my generation probably would
not have even thought about college if you were not
for a different world.

Speaker 10 (34:07):
This is why this show is so magic, and this
is also a reason I'll never get tired of talking
about it, because I'm just proud. I mean, what a
lovely thing to get to say that I was a
part of it. Because there's not a place I go
where I don't hear the same story where someone comes
up and says, man, I never thought I could go
to college.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I was.

Speaker 9 (34:24):
I didn't have a you know, any kind of academic career.
But then I started watching Different World and I got inspired.
I got my ship together, and I went to college.
And that's pretty damn beautiful.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
So first season you ever, did you had a date
rape episode?

Speaker 10 (34:38):
Yes, with the Last Dragon sa.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
It was her first season. Yeah, what was that like?

Speaker 10 (34:50):
Well, first of all, I love that fucking movie, so
I couldn't wait to meet him and I was so excited.
I don't know, I don't want to was really awkward?
Should I tell the stories?

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (35:03):
Yes, it was super awkward, but I just was All
of us girls were in a you know, you know,
we were in a tizzy. Man, we can wait for
this dude to show up.

Speaker 9 (35:10):
And then I got and no, no, no, I don't
want to say that I'm such as everyone thinks I'm
so kind. Okay, but no, but I just remember we
were doing the thing, and this is not his fault
because I just attribute this to a lack of experience.
I don't know how many movies he did other than
the Last.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Dragon it was, yeah, Janet video.

Speaker 10 (35:33):
It's not like he was.

Speaker 9 (35:38):
So it's not like he was coming in with a
ton of experience. So I definitely cut him a little
bit of slack. But I don't know if you guys
are you guys are familiar When you have a table read,
you're simply reading. I mean, you don't even have to
make eye contact with the person you're in a love
scene with. You can simply just look at your sides.

Speaker 10 (35:54):
So I was doing the date rape sceneity he started
raping me, not literally, like literally like groping me and
trying to kiss me, and I was, you know, the
whole take. The whole room went crazy. It's like a
bunch of NBC exacts and everybody's like, whoa, whoa, Wow,
is just a fucking table read. He's gonna kill me.

(36:15):
It's not really bad.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It didn't.

Speaker 10 (36:17):
It didn't go too far, didn't go to listening, but
you were.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Always invited to question.

Speaker 10 (36:24):
Somebody always said something, you know, what I.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Mean as soon as you I just you know what,
It's okay, He's a god.

Speaker 10 (36:33):
I still love that. I still love that movie.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
On stage. Yes, Chappelle's Black Party, Yeah, it's a Chappelle's.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Uh. When we were shooting Dave Schapelle's Black Party in Brooklyn, Yeah, he.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Like say something about him.

Speaker 10 (36:48):
He's so handsome. Still still still.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
You know he.

Speaker 10 (36:54):
Keeps it.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Like when you like, just hear what he said, did
the see you miss it joint? Talking to me? That's
he's Roselle's cousin. So is Roselle's cousin.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, So he invited him on stage and then like
next thing, you know, he's doing karate with the microphone.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Brownouse kicks and everything, Brown House in the microphone. It
was you were up there too. I don't remember that ship.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
He was on stage like he and but Loud was
like singing back and forth at the end when it
just kind of all just went.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Did I know you back then?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, I was a little brother fan this.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Now you didn't get me in. I got in through
other means of subterfuge.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Remember him and Rosario on stage and then he roundhoused
Rosario's shoulder.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
And then it was like, all right, all right, get
off the stage. You get this on tape. I was
definitely on tape. Yes, definitely, he's gonna feel that beautiful moment.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
We were doing whom he says with most and then
he gets on stage and fighting the wind and then
he just starts roundhouse kicking, and then he roundhouse kicked
the microphone standing and then brown house kick and it
was like, all right, okay, get out the pool. Damn
now you brought that up like I remember them, had

(38:19):
to jump through.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
The top of the.

Speaker 10 (38:24):
Wait ready weight.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, and he was so cool because he had like
a whole crush on him but he can't even though
he wasn't knowing her like that. And I was in
that dress, that purple dress viole.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
I used to Okay, so which episode who time act
was a date rapist? Which one was the episode with
Shaza with Gary.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Quite a few off?

Speaker 10 (38:46):
He remember he became my man.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
And Byron's almost wedding.

Speaker 10 (38:50):
Yeah, we were, we were together.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
He was right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
I remember sha He was like the hotel dude speeches
and ship like he was like people dying that the
kids are going to sleep into something.

Speaker 10 (39:04):
But oh, gel now, but shas started really sideways. He
started first with this whole book that he had written
about misunderstanding how the chicks were supposed to cater to
their dudes. He came in sideways, but he was so fine.
No one gave a.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Ship off up until five years ago.

Speaker 8 (39:30):
That was.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
The era, and that's what he.

Speaker 10 (39:38):
Understanding.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Where is she now? Is she dead?

Speaker 12 (39:42):
No?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
She he did?

Speaker 6 (39:44):
She did.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
Now.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I thought she was there, but I don't know. I
don't know. I can't say for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Then I got to look her up. Yeah, shares out Ali. Wow, man,
many many dining you appearance, no.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Reason that's.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
After Well, you know, I know college isn't supposed to
go on forever, so I guess having a good five
year one was good enough for the show.

Speaker 9 (40:12):
But I think it should have gone long. But you know,
they just didn't give a ship about it. I'm telling you, man,
we were really a step child.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
We really did you like the storyline of you kind
of straightened up and flying.

Speaker 9 (40:26):
It was literally paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
And it just bummed me out because even Friday and
they flirted what was doing.

Speaker 10 (40:38):
And it was weird. I never got behind. It was yeah,
it was unforn you got all this. I want to
do a Different World trivia.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Four hours a day, four hours a day. I've been
watching a Different World for.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Hours a day because like, once it comes on, you know,
you can't turn off because there's no commercials in between
TV shows now because they show all the credits super fast.

Speaker 10 (41:08):
You got to wear a diaper and it's like, you know,
in one episode, you have.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Time to change the channel before the next episode starts.
So it's like, is this episode I'm gonna watch? No,
it's on TV one.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Did you'll hear who or Hulu?

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Did y'all hear what you said? I just said, I said, Bill,
I want battle you. She said, they have those.

Speaker 9 (41:28):
There is a Different World trivia game by this company
called Cards for the Culture, and they have a Martin
Trivia game.

Speaker 10 (41:34):
They have a Different World Trivia.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Actually they got.

Speaker 10 (41:38):
On your team because you know everything.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, I love that show Man. So after the show,
did you.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Were you interested in doing more live action things or
was it just like you had a comfort zone with well,
you know, the.

Speaker 10 (41:55):
Whole time I was on a Different World. I had
just started.

Speaker 9 (41:57):
I had just started a rock band called Subject to
Change and we were assigned to Capitol Records and on
hiatus we had done tour, I don't know, we did
like seven or eight months with Fishbone, and I remember
coming here.

Speaker 10 (42:14):
Whatever the first year of Different World was was when
I did Subject to Change.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
So doing like the whole Truth and Soul era fishone.

Speaker 10 (42:20):
It was definitely truth and Soul. Yeah, that's what That's
what we were, That's what we were touring.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah. Yeah, how chaotic was that.

Speaker 10 (42:26):
I was engaged to fish at the time, and it
was crazy. I was yeah for years. Yeah, we were
together for years.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I never knew that it was crazy.

Speaker 9 (42:40):
If you know, yeah, then you know it was crazy.
And then I remember that that was what I wanted
to do the most. That's why I came to LA
was to be a musician. It was never to be
an actress. And it was I really thought, I would,
you know, afford this music with acting. And I remember

(43:02):
when Capitol Records just dropped us.

Speaker 10 (43:04):
They dropped us before the album even came out, and
I was so disillusioned.

Speaker 9 (43:08):
So I went and did another series called Sweet Justice
with Cecily Tyson and Melissa Gilbert, and you remember that, Yeah,
you do it.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
It was.

Speaker 10 (43:17):
It was a sweet little thing though.

Speaker 9 (43:19):
Yeah, and after that, I just was, you know, writing
a little bit and then doing mostly voiceovers. At the
time I remember that was that was when I just
went into a really dark period. I was really crestfallen
about that.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
Man.

Speaker 10 (43:36):
I couldn't get my shit together.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
On the back end of that, on the back end
of a different.

Speaker 10 (43:43):
Subject to change.

Speaker 9 (43:44):
Yeah, on the back end of that, because you know,
we had toured that record almost two years straight, and
that was when Capital was under this guy named Hal Milgram,
and he really loved music. I mean, I'd never been
to like, you know, had a CEO who was always
at the fucking gig, you know, and we were just nothing.
We were just we were like, you know, an all
black rock band, and at that time there was oh

(44:06):
my god, we had drums, keys, two guitars, sat had
one man sack horn section, and uh, I think we're
like six six pieces.

Speaker 8 (44:17):
Yeah, I'm surprised that the producers of a different world
than trying to figure out a way to ease in
your story.

Speaker 10 (44:21):
Like the guest Freddy was not supposed to dance, know
how to dance or sing? Yeah, comes I had to
do my best time.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
That they try me in the background episode.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, and Lisa doesn't want to get married. Yeah, here
comes a bro.

Speaker 9 (44:43):
I know he's got it all, but I mean, and
then after that, I just did animation, animation until finally
getting over it and getting to do a solo album
on work Group.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
How did you and lady hook up for that?

Speaker 9 (44:55):
Well, you know, I met I can't call I met Lisa.
I met Lisa when I was doing Different World, probably
the first season. Uh, Kadiem and I were dating when
we did Different World.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
That was that was.

Speaker 10 (45:08):
That was my boyfriend for about god. We were together,
I don't know, three years, four years.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
I did.

Speaker 10 (45:19):
Duyne. We're together. We were together almost the entire run,
I guess, not together the last year.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Is that hard?

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Like mhm, I hate okay. I always use this term,
but I mean it rather in a polite way.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Is that not weird? Shitting?

Speaker 10 (45:35):
Where you eat first, it's delightful, then it's then it
is ship Where you eat you know what I mean?
Tastes good, then you don't want to eat it?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Well, just working on TV, you know, like I know
that there's a lot of temptation to because you spend
a lot of hours.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
But Smiley, damn, that just slipped out.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Sorry, Tavis Valley, I'm waiting on he's been quiet lately,
but sorry he edit that out.

Speaker 9 (46:06):
I gotta say something in that in Kadeem's defense, because
Kadeem was really my first real boyfriend, and he was
an amazing boyfriend. I mean, we rode motorcycles together. We
I remember, I remember I told him one time we
had just gotten together. I told him I love this
comic book Deathlock, and he one of our first dates

(46:28):
was driving all over the city getting all ten issues
because I think Marvel had only done ten issues, man,
and he got them all.

Speaker 10 (46:35):
And going, you know like it was. It was super sweet.

Speaker 8 (46:39):
I mean, just.

Speaker 9 (46:39):
Imagine being young and never having a real, real adult
romantic relationship.

Speaker 10 (46:45):
It was really a nice way to enter into what
love is about.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Wait time, all over the city. Where did you get shoot?

Speaker 9 (46:52):
We shot at CBS Radford in the valley. Yeah, but
we had to go to you know, all the comic
book shops to maybe one.

Speaker 10 (46:58):
Shop had one issue, one shove had two. Oh no.
We shot in La Yeah, in the valley, in the valley.

Speaker 8 (47:06):
See this is ill because now it's like a whole
different idea of who you guys behind the scenes, and
even when you mentioned Lisa in our minds as you
guys never were on the same show at the same time.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Is so ill she was.

Speaker 9 (47:18):
To get back to what you said, Amya, she was.
She was very good friends with Kadeen because of their
first season, and I was in I think, yeah, I
was in my band at the time, and I remember
Kadeen was like, you gotta let love rule had not
come out, he was, you know, and he was like, man,
you got to meet my friend Lenny, and you gotta
meet Lisa. I think you guys will love each other.

(47:41):
And I remember them. They came over and Zoe was
so tiny, and I remember I played I Think you
want to know something crazy Lenny. Lenny had never heard
Carnival Leon Russell's album, he'd never heard tight Rope, he'd
never heard Out in the Wood, which at the time,
I was, you know, my whole life obsessed with. And

(48:03):
I remember playing it for him and we had a
real connection. I mean, and with Lila Quoy and with
Lisa and I we had a very instant love at
first sight.

Speaker 10 (48:12):
That is my sister.

Speaker 8 (48:14):
I will.

Speaker 10 (48:15):
I can't say enough about how deeply I love her.
So anyway, that's how we all came together was all
through Kadeen. Thank god.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I'm jealous that that Zoe was the second person to
ever hear public enemies. It takes a nation of millions
to hold us back.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Was she really the day that Lenny was done with
making uh rule? Where is the day that pe was
mastering Nation of Millions? She don't remember that shit?

Speaker 1 (48:47):
And so no, well, there's a story that I think
Lenny tells of like they really loved black Stiel in
the Our Chaos, So they like played it three times
in a row. That was like Lisa's favorite one, and
they kept playing it like they felt the baby vibrating.
Oh sweet, Yeah, crazy was jealous, something like, damn, you
don't even know anything about that record.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
You were there for it. You know. How did you
go about getting your deal? It was with work.

Speaker 10 (49:15):
Yeah, how did that go? That is Jeff are off.
And I just remember.

Speaker 9 (49:22):
I was shopping for a record at the time, you know,
or trying to get a deal, and I was getting
a lot of doors closed in my face.

Speaker 10 (49:29):
It just they just didn't want the music.

Speaker 9 (49:31):
And then Lilakoy or Lisa gave my like a three
song demo to Lenny, and Lenny went crazy.

Speaker 10 (49:38):
He was like, I love this ship. I'll produce this ship.

Speaker 9 (49:42):
And then I think I had a meeting with Work
Group and my manager at the time said, Lenny Kravitz
will produce it, and they were like, well we you know,
we started with Lenny at Virgin and they were like,
let's do this.

Speaker 10 (49:52):
So, I mean, I went to the only place that
really wanted it. And that's the truth, man. I mean
my money, yeah, you and twelve others that well, you know,
you know that record really was a bonafide flop.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
You know you gave me that record.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Is that why I don't have it anymore?

Speaker 2 (50:11):
You gave me that record, and you gave me some
group one talking loud. I forget the japan Japanese group.
I'm so glad you don't smoke yoo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
But United Future Organism, Yes, there you go. You gave me,
you gave me crazy record, and you gave me United
Future Organization work.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
I mean, sometimes I don't know the worst, but I
know what I like.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
You used to host a Sunday radio program that was
sort of like the percursor The Quest of Supreme line.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
She was. She was the you.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah long time ago, yeah, when she was six years old,
nineteen ninety four, go mama, yeah, Mean Sleep.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
How did that come together?

Speaker 10 (51:02):
Oh gosh, I love that song.

Speaker 9 (51:04):
You know, that's a funny one because I did not
have the nerve to ask Lenny to do a duet,
and we were we were Mean Sleep was Oh no, no,
that's deliciously down Mean Sleep.

Speaker 10 (51:15):
I remember we were.

Speaker 9 (51:16):
We recorded the whole thing at Compass Point in now
saw Bahamas, So talk about spoiled. I mean, what a
magical place to be recording. And I think even the
mandolin was Jimmy Page's mandolin that we used, and it's
just so many little, you know, ancient magic things that
went down in that studio. And I remember we're sitting

(51:38):
at the control uh, sitting at the controls and I
said we were.

Speaker 10 (51:41):
Getting to Mean Sleep. And I said, man, you know,
who are we going to get to do this duet? Thinking?

Speaker 9 (51:47):
Please, please, please please feel this desperation I'm shooting at you, ma'am,
and uh, I said, you know, I guess I could
get You just have to be someone really good, man.
It has to be something really fucking good. And he goes, well,
I'm going to do it. Of course, you know.

Speaker 10 (52:01):
So that was but I really didn't know if he
was going to do it.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
You know, when did you like your songs? How did
you write them? Did you write on the instrument or
did you just.

Speaker 9 (52:09):
Want Really I'm really a shitty guitar player. Uh just
kind of plunk it out. But I mostly write melody
and lyric on my own, and then I bring it
to whoever I'm writing with and I just sing it
to them. I tell them what I wanted to sound like.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Have you and Zoe ever had a musical moment? Yes,
we did, save you.

Speaker 10 (52:29):
Save Yourself, that's right. I wrote this song called save
Yourself and she was in the video.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah, and we had was in the video. There's there's
I assume that's three versions of you like you.

Speaker 10 (52:40):
That's what it was.

Speaker 9 (52:41):
And then who's the Because are my two other god children?
That is Stry Sunshine and Body La La, two daughters
of Hayes Rosen good good good friend of mine.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Man. When I have kids, I'm gonna have y' all
name them.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
My pleasure her kids.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
They sound like action heroes, sound like Marvel characters, and
it's so great.

Speaker 10 (53:01):
I mean, just that you don't have to be like
everybody else. You don't have to be to be Steve.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (53:08):
Sorry, tell us.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
More about your friend Zoe.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Oh he's yeah, O yeah.

Speaker 10 (53:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
The greatst Zoe Steve movement was Zoe jumped out of
a moving car that Steve was driving because she.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Could take She jumped out.

Speaker 7 (53:42):
No, she jumped out because she saw standing on the corner.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah, but that was all she needed.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
She's like, like, we're driving up sixth Avenue, Steve's going
like thirty miles an hour, just like, yeah, jump out
of the car.

Speaker 7 (53:58):
Talking, you know. Then headlines read engineer wrestled for Zoey
Kravitz mishaf that was her fault.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
I miss you guys are fighting like cats and dogs.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Man, excuse me, sir. Later, are we gonna do rapid fire?
Different world questions? Because more to go? I just wanted
to know. Okay, So.

Speaker 8 (54:20):
Me and my mom were talking about the HIV AIDS
episode the other I wanted you to talk about it
and the filming and if you guys were there moments
of tears because t.

Speaker 9 (54:29):
Shir Yeah, she destroyed that didn't Well, here's the skinny
about that.

Speaker 10 (54:35):
Ship.

Speaker 9 (54:35):
You guys got to remember, at that time, you couldn't
even talk about sex. Censorship was so intense, man. You
couldn't show a condom. You had to imply that it
was in your purse and describe it as best you could.
And this is at a time when masses we're dying
of fucking age. I mean, just you know, when you

(54:55):
weigh that out, it's just so sad. You know that
the right, the Christian right, will will just not give
us shit about it, to the point where they'll censor
these very important things that can save so many lives.
So we were in tears about so many things. And
I attribute that to Debbie Allen. Debbie Allen came in

(55:16):
and she said, you can't have a show about a
black college and not address the social issues taking place,
because it's always the children. It's always the young people
that are going to yell up and rise and protest.
And that's how that episode came, you know, And the
original episode was even deeper. I mean, you know, I

(55:38):
mean she had you know, people were dropping condoms. You know,
we were trying to get this message across. But it
was very tight, man, It was very tight. Then only
so much you could say, so, I think she did
an incredible job. I really give hats off to Susan
Failes and Debbie Allen and navette Lee Bouser. Yeah, these listen.
Can you guys imagine what it was like. We had

(55:59):
people on this show like Lena Horn and Richard Rowntree
and Joseph.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Carroll and Diane.

Speaker 10 (56:06):
Such a pie.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I mean, like, you know, TV one actually did a
marathon of just Patty LaBelle episodes.

Speaker 9 (56:12):
Oh I love it, but I have to say that,
you know, you got you gotta understand that these actors
had never been some some of these actors had had
to enter the soundstage from the back, you know, and
they were coming to different world. They were driving on
through the fucking front and they were greeted by the
executive producer and creator who's a black woman. And then

(56:34):
they look over and the director is a black woman.
And then at the start of the fucking show is
a black woman. And everybody working the cameras and everybody
doing fucking craft service away. It was you know, I
remember sitting with Diane Carroll and you know her, the
stories that they would tell us, and they would almost
be in.

Speaker 10 (56:51):
Tears they would say, you guys have no idea. We didn't.
We could never envision this.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Who you know, who is she the mother of dying
here Whitley?

Speaker 10 (57:01):
Yeah, she was Whitley's okay.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
And Ron O'Neill was her father, depending what season.

Speaker 10 (57:05):
It was, Yeah, ron.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Out.

Speaker 10 (57:11):
Yeah, we had to shaft down.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yeah everybody. Yeah, he's daddy.

Speaker 10 (57:18):
Now he's being Mary Jans somebody daddy.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Now he's on Richard that Cobbler.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
I'm just leaving space for you. Okay, I'll jump in
when I need to, Okay. So I could do this
all time.

Speaker 8 (57:38):
So how did you feel about now the brother the
brother storyline, the white brother's story.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
I thought he was our brothers, like.

Speaker 10 (57:48):
You talk about Matthew.

Speaker 8 (57:49):
Yeah, Matthew, I can't hear you louder. That's all I
think when when I hear Matthew.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (57:53):
So I also wanted to ask you when the new
cast came, not the new cast, but when the dis
freshman new freshman freshman, you know Jada p.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Robinson.

Speaker 10 (58:04):
Can I tell you, guys, here's a little known fact.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Bomber.

Speaker 10 (58:07):
Robinson is a very big voice of her actor and
he kicks assay.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Yeah, he was Dorian, Dorian.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
The one that wouldn't sleep with Yeah, that's right, that's right,
she couldn't take it.

Speaker 8 (58:20):
Man. That's not on a Different World question, but on
a Jada Pinkey question, did you guys bond rock and roll?

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Wise behind?

Speaker 10 (58:26):
She wasn't doing rock and roll at the time. I
don't even think she listened to rock and roll all
the time. I don't think so, I don't remember that anyway.

Speaker 7 (58:34):
Yeah, you guys, ever see Seinfeld.

Speaker 10 (58:41):
Whip it out, whip it out?

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Playing What what's your favorite episode of the Different World.

Speaker 10 (58:54):
That's such a good question. I'm going to say the
one that everybody loves this stuffing show is.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Stepping Show is my favorite stepping show?

Speaker 10 (59:03):
That the Do you know why the Stepping Show is
my favorite?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Freddie couldn't get the step, yes, Gilbert.

Speaker 9 (59:16):
So anyway, why I loved it was because, like I said,
Freddie was supposed to be such an inconfident when it
came to singing and dancing. And so when we got
to the actual dance routine. You know, my mother's a dancer,
and so I was doing the dance routine all out
and I kept saying, I'll suck it up in the show, I'll.

Speaker 10 (59:33):
Up in the show. And then I think it was
Debbie or somebody said just let her get it because
it'll be so much more rewarding if Freddy gets the dance. Yeah,
So I don't know. I'm just it's a special one
for me.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
You got more different world questions.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
I don't have to.

Speaker 8 (59:51):
I was just going to ask you in retrospect the episode.
The episode was where it's really focused on you and Jasmine, well,
you and Whit and Roslyn Cash.

Speaker 9 (01:00:01):
Yeah, talk about Oh my god, can I talk about
ros Can I just tell you that the minute she
walked in, what a goddess and what a life and
you know, just her telling us stories about the movies
that she did, and I don't know, she was like
the kind of person you just were dying to hang
out with on purpose, you know, I just wanted to

(01:00:22):
go get a drink with and she cussed like a sailor.

Speaker 10 (01:00:25):
That's my kind of fraud.

Speaker 9 (01:00:27):
It was delightful to work with Roslyn and Jazzy. Jasmine
is one of my favorite people on the planet, and
we were and still are very much in love. Our
firstborn daughters are born on the same day.

Speaker 10 (01:00:39):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Album I wrote a song for her album.

Speaker 10 (01:00:46):
She let me write a song everybody knows my name.
Oh yeah, real, real good song, tray Ma.

Speaker 9 (01:00:59):
We've inspired me. I remember, just like thinking, God, I
hope my band gets a deal. I hope we get
to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
When we found out that Jazmine Guy Guy was working
with full Force, we were like, you know, this is
going to be crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:01:14):
What was the white chicken face? It's Samantha. It was
just like tits on a chin. She was amazing. It
was like a second period.

Speaker 8 (01:01:27):
Jazmine would always remind you of her talent, like you
see her dancing and the lift up video.

Speaker 10 (01:01:33):
You know she dances.

Speaker 9 (01:01:35):
Jazzy is no joke, and let's give kudos to the woman.
She's written books, she directs and writes and produces plays.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
She doesn't did she write a book with a phoenix about.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Since we're in a different world, I have a slight question.
Whatever happened to the character of Millie.

Speaker 10 (01:02:03):
I loved you too. I thought she was the sweetest
little thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Little thing when Ron was still the dork h the
first season.

Speaker 10 (01:02:11):
I liked Million That's a character they could have kept, Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
I hate Steve right now he's making fun of it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
It's a great watched it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I watched it a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:02:23):
I did a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
You were talking about roseland Cash. What was she like.

Speaker 9 (01:02:27):
I mean, she's just like a down sister. She was
funny and she was really generous with herself. She spent
time with us. You know, we got to eat with
her and talk with her and ask her lots of questions.
She never got tired, and she gets distillertful air her.
We didn't do that with her, but we certainly did

(01:02:47):
that a lot. I mean, I have to vuye honest
with you. I don't even remember the last season. I
was so drunk out and drunk down. I mean, I
you know, Jasmine and I used to go across to
this place called a Votre Sante that was like right across.
We taped two show, so you tape one show in
the day, then you have dinner, and then you come
back and tape it again.

Speaker 10 (01:03:04):
So you know, our theory was same show.

Speaker 9 (01:03:07):
Twice and then they well, then they've edited and see
what's the best from both shows, because most shows had
a live audience, and they say, you know, what's the best.
We'll take the scene from the first show. This scene
from the second show. But by the last season, I
was already on tour with subject to change in my mind.
I was bylocating, you know what I mean. I was
so ready to go do this thing that I've always
wanted to do. Jazzy had a record coming out, you know,

(01:03:30):
Kadem was about.

Speaker 10 (01:03:31):
To do a big movie. We were really like, you
know what I think he was about, You like, white
men can't jump for something. We couldn't wait to.

Speaker 9 (01:03:49):
Get the fuck out of there, you know, just in retrospect,
what a bunch of dumb ass in grades, you know.
But but last year was so well we, like I said,
we taped the first episode. Then Jazzy and I would
go to this little shitty restaurant and we would get
as drunk as we fucking could, and then we go
back and do the.

Speaker 10 (01:04:04):
Tape the last episode. So when I see a lot
of those shows, it's it's wonderful. It's the first time.

Speaker 8 (01:04:12):
It was that wedding episode, and it was much fun
filming as it is as much fun.

Speaker 10 (01:04:18):
No, it was awful.

Speaker 9 (01:04:19):
It was awful, you know, because that was awful because
you got to understand as much as we were ready
to leave that show just fucking ended. It ended with
a thud, and it we didn't know why it ended,
you know, as far as we knew, we were still
going strong everybody loves you and blah blah blah, and
all of a sudden, it was like it's over, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:04:40):
And so that wedding episode, no cake, no nothing, no
fucking party. Just don't let the door hits you on
the way out, man, And we really didn't. Yeah, it
came up. It was like, all of a sudden, oh,
this is the last episode. Oh okay, we'll get them.
You better get them, get them together, better make it
a wedding, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Oh wait, okay, yeah that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
You talking about the fake out, Well.

Speaker 10 (01:05:00):
You're talking about the funk autum. Know that episode was
amazing because when he said please, the audience went fucking.

Speaker 8 (01:05:11):
Correctly crazy in your body because that's your man, Like yes, baby, no, no,
I went.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
To I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Someone someone, someone y'all know of, once gave this episode
as a reference to me, uh to go grab my woman.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I really don't grab your woman.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Is this the Rick James story? No, no, no, no,
it's it's someone else has done that. I'll mention off
the off the air.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
This was someone called someone kind of me and was like, yo, man,
He's like, I already know who the call is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Something's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
And if I was you, I'd be on that dwing win,
I get on the plane right now, come out here
and grab your one like Dwayne Wayne at Whitley's wedding.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Like they used this thing as as an example. Yeah,
so that was a great episode. I'm so.

Speaker 10 (01:06:14):
Curious.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
It's brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Yes, he is as well. Well, all right, let me
get you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
So I'm ready, Steve, because I can tell you about
to say something off the off the change.

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
I'm good, I'm good. Okay, we're done with Different World though,
because I watched it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
But not like which episode did you study it? Which
episode was it that you saw?

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
What was what was a perfect episode?

Speaker 10 (01:06:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:06:39):
I was watch for Alicia Bonet and Jasmine guy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
You know they weren't there at the same time.

Speaker 7 (01:06:44):
I thought they were.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Yeah, yeah they were they were first season.

Speaker 7 (01:06:49):
Yeah, I watched the first season and that's pretty much it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
You're still keep in touch with everybody, uh, the cast?

Speaker 10 (01:06:57):
Yes you do, Yeah, there's not there's Yeah, I got
to say.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
The most memorable moment I've ever had in my career
doing chows. It was like when the twelve of you
showed up, Like imagine in like nineteen ninety four and
you're doing your first show in Los Angeles, California, and
then like it's Cree and it's Lisa, and it's Jasmine

(01:07:26):
and it's Jada and Latifa.

Speaker 10 (01:07:30):
Light was there too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Yeah, it was right. And what's her name? She was
the eighteen t girls. She y had short.

Speaker 9 (01:07:37):
That's my best friend. That's what I'm talking about tomorrow. Yeah,
we moved here together from Toronto. That's that's the godmother
and my children.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Now, I loved it for so long.

Speaker 10 (01:07:47):
Man, she just did a twelve year bid on Bones one.
Oh no, no, no, I mean that's how long the show.
Sorry God, sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Yo, that night. Yeah, we were never the same.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
We just thought because I mean we just thought, like, yo,
the sky's a limit, Like you know, our first show in.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
All of Black Hollywood is out here for us.

Speaker 10 (01:08:16):
But you know what, we I am such a diehard
roots fan. I mean we were so fucking excited.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
To be there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Oh man, that made Yeah, I'll say that of all
I mean we've done, I think we're up to like
forty five hundred shows.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
But that that to me is that's a top tip memory.

Speaker 8 (01:08:34):
Whenever I get together and there's a picture taken, I
feel like y'all break the internet.

Speaker 10 (01:08:37):
So yeah, we hang out on purpose, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:08:41):
I think it has to do with just that we
were you know, really there weren't a lot of black
people on TV, and we were a part of such
a movement. And like I said, when you're an underdog,
you know you really you're bind together. You know, you
got become really resilient and really strong. And I think

(01:09:01):
that that's another beautiful thing about that show.

Speaker 10 (01:09:03):
Is it really created you know, lifelong friendships, youts, you
know that. Yeah, but they'd never touched this one. It's
such a weird thing.

Speaker 9 (01:09:12):
I just don't understand, no, no, what you can do
without us. I mean, you don't wheel out the fucking ancients.
I mean, bring us some new blood. How many wants
to see our But that's white people. They can bring
back anything.

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
O L E. R.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
I mean they went to Japan and what happened, That's
all I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (01:09:33):
Yeah, yeah, they bring it back to with like with
young young Blood.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
To build on that question, where do you think Freddy
Brooks would be?

Speaker 9 (01:09:40):
Right now, Freddie might have well, god, you know, the
unfortunate thing she had to become a lawyer. But maybe
she used that, you know, maybe maybe she started you know,
a couple of lovely organizations. I'd like to think that
she went back to school and started teaching, maybe had
like fifteen kids or something crazy, you know, because I
just always thought she was such a mother nature and
so nurturing, and I think she'd have to have a
lot babies just because she have such an overabundance of

(01:10:02):
love and compassion, and I think she would change things,
you know, because she did. This character was very inspiring.
You know, I have moments sometimes my mama we call
her hell Cat. Sometimes she come to La and visit
and we'll see, you know, a couple of cute little
young things, and she'll say, oh, look at those two Freddy's,
you know, and it's just you know, they'll have their

(01:10:23):
you know, hair all the wild, and they'll just be
dressed like like more like themselves than ever before, you know,
just being themselves powerfully. And I think that's what Freddie
gave us, because at that time, there were no let's
face it. There were no black chicks that didn't. You know,
we were all part of that time where it was
so important to look like everybody else and be like

(01:10:44):
everybody else, and especially on television, it was really important
to fit into some kind of caricature. And let's face
it that there were Freddi's that existed all over the
world that were so isolated and alone and then they
saw this character and they were like, oh fuck, there's me,
you know, And that's why I love her.

Speaker 10 (01:11:02):
I mean, I just think special.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
If she was on Freddy Brooks in twenty eighteen, would
be your Instagram honey.

Speaker 10 (01:11:10):
Oh please, don't she like.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
Not a scammer like, but she would be like she
would be the Freddy Brooks. She would be the YouTube
hair girl, like showing how to do the curls like.

Speaker 8 (01:11:25):
She has.

Speaker 10 (01:11:26):
I think she'd have more important things to do.

Speaker 8 (01:11:29):
I do think she'd be back with she'd had babies,
just to have all the good she'd ye because ronn
ain't having all them kids.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Wasn't need to be two months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
Yeah, she wouldn't be with him.

Speaker 10 (01:11:45):
Do you guys know this?

Speaker 9 (01:11:46):
Another fun fact is that Darryl Bell is in love
and been in love and living with tempest for a millionaires.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Yeah, I did a reality show.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Wow, Vanessa Hawks, they did a reality show.

Speaker 10 (01:12:00):
Just your mind blown down your mind there, I'll say
this off the record.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Yeah, okay, that explains why he was accompanying someone in
the courtor.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Okay, okay, See.

Speaker 7 (01:12:15):
Did you ever meet Bill Cosby?

Speaker 10 (01:12:17):
I did for about ten minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:12:18):
I was gonna say if it was just for a
few minutes, and then everything goes went black.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Yeah, nor the car.

Speaker 10 (01:12:31):
I eject myself from the understand though.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
You do. Now you see where the line. I knew
that it was coming. See see.

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
How it's starting to he is laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Now cut is Mike off? So but you only met
him once. That's what it was.

Speaker 9 (01:12:51):
Very It was like it was like assembly, you know,
like the opening day when we first first started working
on the show, and he came out and kind of
thanked everybody in the split was it was real short man, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Okay, Now I want to know how hard is it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Are you the only notable person of color in the
voiceover world during O No, no, No, I'm sorry, I'm
not going to answer.

Speaker 9 (01:13:25):
That for no, but there's there's there's a few of us,
but you know, not very many. I'll tell you there's
probably about the three or four of us, or maybe
maybe five. The thing about the voiceover community is it's
so fucking small. It's like a click, you know, we've
got of you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Or is it?

Speaker 10 (01:13:40):
Oh there's less than that, Oh there's I mean, when I.

Speaker 9 (01:13:44):
Go to work, I probably see the same ten people
every time, and when we see a new person, we're like,
who the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Are you lost?

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
You know, No, we're not that mean, but I've seen
that looking the way back.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Is don still doing a lot of voice ess?

Speaker 9 (01:13:57):
I think she still does. Yeah, I don't see very much.
Some other stuff she's done some really nice jobs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
I've just seen her in a movie, or she's something
on Netflix lower, or it's just recently she was a
lawyer or something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
So I think I know what you're talking about. And
I can't remember it either. But I've seen it this
week and I was like, oh, my god, that's doing.

Speaker 10 (01:14:25):
Noise, doesn't she She's definitely sacrificing children. She looks great.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Are we ever going to see you back on the screen?

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
You know what?

Speaker 9 (01:14:39):
Sometimes I sometimes I do do it for friends. I
have friends that will ask me I actually just did
a film for a friend and amazing writer named Charles Murray.

Speaker 10 (01:14:48):
I just did a film for him. It's called Truth.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
For Someone.

Speaker 5 (01:14:55):
In terms of voice acting, because that's something that I'm
looking to get into.

Speaker 10 (01:14:58):
We do have a very nice voice. That's such a
pretty residence.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Thank you so much. What where's the starting point for that?

Speaker 6 (01:15:06):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:15:06):
Boy, man, I gotta get real with you. It's so tough.
It's so tough to get into.

Speaker 9 (01:15:10):
But I I can't really give you the same advice
i'd give anybody else, because you know, the sound of
your own voice.

Speaker 10 (01:15:17):
You do this all the time. I'd say, you just
need to know somebody.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
How you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Who is who's the gatekeeper?

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
You know?

Speaker 9 (01:15:27):
I think it's probably the casting agents and the you know,
the different networks like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network and well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Actually, okay, I'll ask you a question. Yeah, I'm actually
a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:15:41):
A sweating man. Hold on, I just got it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Okay, all right, the thing you got, the wet and waving.

Speaker 10 (01:15:46):
Yeah, I'm going listen, I'm going back home. I can
feel it in the back that is getting very very upset.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Yeah, the living room turn into the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Yes, okay, well, I'm in the process of developing two
animated series.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Are so is it?

Speaker 6 (01:16:02):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Heying? But is there?

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Is it kind of a mafia system? Like am I
naive thinking like, oh, I'll choose who I want to
do these voices?

Speaker 10 (01:16:14):
All? No, no, you choose whoever you want and you'll
be just fine. It's not like that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
So it's not like a union where you have to choose.

Speaker 10 (01:16:24):
Oh god, no, yes there is.

Speaker 8 (01:16:27):
And you watch Robot you watch Robot Chicken. They throw
anybody in their situation and it sounds really great.

Speaker 10 (01:16:32):
Yeah, no, listen, it's it's definitely not. I think, honestly,
I think the reason that you see the same twelve
people this guys are really fucking good, that's all. And
they're really dependable.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:16:41):
It's like your studio musicians. You know, you got your
your you know, like your your session, your session guys,
you know, and I feel like we're the session.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Guys, and it's hard and I feel like it's a
sacrifice sort of Like well, when I visited the settum
of Sesame Street, it was almost like the same thing.
Like that's a very specific area that it's hard to
make a steady living and if you can.

Speaker 10 (01:17:02):
Get in there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Is it a good living for you now?

Speaker 9 (01:17:05):
It's a wonderful living. Yeah, it's very nice. I mean, listen,
I'm a mama. I started having babies real late. My
children are really young, and I have time to hang
out with them. I have time to write music, I
have time to do all kinds of things, and I
can still support myself, which is really nice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
So what is the average like a work week for
you as a voice actor?

Speaker 9 (01:17:25):
Well, you know, I have shows that I'm a regular on.
I have a lot of shows that I reoccur on,
and then I have a lot of shows that I
just do guest spots on. So I have in your
regular gigs, you have maybe two on Monday, one on Thursday,
one on Friday, and then you'll have your reoccurring gigs
that you do, you know, throughout the week too. I'd
say work maybe four or five times a day.

Speaker 8 (01:17:47):
And do you find it's a difference between Cause it's funny.
I listen to you and I'm like, I've done voice
over work, but I feel like it's a difference between
a voiceover actress and a voice over I want to say, announcer,
like different things versus Yeah, and.

Speaker 9 (01:18:00):
You break that down to people, well, I think a
voiceover a voice announcer, you're trying to do something that
is going to of course lure them in. And the
only quality that one has to have is that cell
sell sell ability and that likability. And of course, when
you're a voice over actress, you're playing characters, so likability
and all those other things are not important. It's just

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important that you're delivering a well rounded, believable character.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
How do you protect your voice?

Speaker 9 (01:18:27):
I don't, man, I smoke weed, I smoke cigarettes. I
smoke I'll smoke you if you'll fit in this paper.

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
But I you know, but so I don't.

Speaker 10 (01:18:38):
I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:18:38):
I don't take care of my voice. I'm an asshole
when it comes to this voice. Man, I just go
really fucking hard. I mean, yeah, so I got no.

Speaker 10 (01:18:46):
Advice about.

Speaker 7 (01:18:49):
It works.

Speaker 9 (01:18:49):
Well, you know, it's also just it's real Rasby and
it's always been and it's not going to clean up
if I fly straight, you know, So why fat dairy?

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
I do?

Speaker 6 (01:19:01):
I do?

Speaker 8 (01:19:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:19:01):
Yes, in my mind, I think everybody thinks, you know,
sometimes I'll just have my face and a rib and
you know, a fan of walk By be like Oh
my god, Freddy.

Speaker 10 (01:19:10):
You eat meat and I just think, yeah, I love it.
What do you want?

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
What did you think of Nika and Van's cover of
Me Sleep?

Speaker 9 (01:19:22):
I really am good friends with Nica because Nika's son, Suede,
goes to school with my daughter Hero and so and
I God, I love Van.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I loved it.

Speaker 10 (01:19:32):
I just thought it was.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Cool, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:19:33):
And yeah, I liked it a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I thought they really did.

Speaker 10 (01:19:36):
I thought they did a good job. Nika sings her
as off man.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
How did you eat Van in the first place? Street?

Speaker 9 (01:19:43):
Van and I wrote together deliciously Down and Mean Sleep
and some other songs that I wish the world would
get to hear too.

Speaker 10 (01:19:51):
I love writing with Van. We were you know what
you're going to say. Listen.

Speaker 9 (01:19:56):
They call me amish two thousand. I'm such a fucking
tech retard. One would literally have to do the thing
for me. You know, I don't know you know me,
so we'll scratch. But that was something that the record
company did. The record work group set me up with
this dude, David Ryan Harris from Follow for Follow. I

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used to follow them around like a group album when
they would come to l A. My friends and I
like groupies. We would go to the gig, would wait
by the fucking bus. It was embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
I was follow a record on it called If I had.

Speaker 10 (01:20:42):
That one Boys Boys, So he did.

Speaker 9 (01:20:47):
He did Dan Faris album That's right, and I think
it was her m D for like a couple of years.
So they set me up with David, Ryan Harris and
Van uh because.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
If you on work that you were labeling, you know
what's with David Harris.

Speaker 9 (01:21:00):
I wrote Still my Heart with Ryan Harris. That was
our cool writing. An Astero is from Toronto. That's my girl.
She's I met her because she was dating my brother
and then he brought her to a gig and she
was happened to be on the same label. An Astero
is a pirate and a dear sister of mine.

Speaker 10 (01:21:22):
David, No, he wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
He wasn't.

Speaker 10 (01:21:24):
No, he was on something else. Eagle Eye, the Cherry's Brother.

Speaker 5 (01:21:29):
Save Tonight record that was a good man in a minute.
That record was everywhere I heard it, like in Trader
Joe's Oh Listen.

Speaker 9 (01:21:37):
It drove me crazy because at the time my album
was just laying there like it was laying like a
fucking egg, and everywhere we went, We'd hear Saved Tonight
and I'd be like that mother.

Speaker 10 (01:21:50):
Yeah, the jealousy, man, it was deep. That was a
hard time, man. I we had put so much love
and you were.

Speaker 9 (01:21:57):
Ahead of your time and you know, I don't know, man,
it was it was rough. I mean, touring was beautiful.
We were really adored and embraced everywhere we went. And
then you know, you check the record sales.

Speaker 7 (01:22:11):
I have a question for what should again the name
of the band.

Speaker 9 (01:22:16):
I was in a band called Subject to Change, and
then I did a solo album and then okay, I
left the Yeah, the band broke up and.

Speaker 11 (01:22:22):
All right, but let's let's say the Subject to Change
you did.

Speaker 10 (01:22:26):
That album tanked as well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
But there's now that did actually come out?

Speaker 10 (01:22:30):
It never came out, Yeah, I guess it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
I think it did come out. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:22:36):
I think that's like one of those things you find
by accident at a truck stop, right there beside trying
to get it right beside Nam Campbell.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
I got an idea.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Seeing that album.

Speaker 10 (01:22:49):
It's called Baby Woman.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
I've actually heard it. Hold up, Yes, she did what.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
I bet Quincy produced it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
No, he didn't have to deal with Okay, but the
subject to change.

Speaker 10 (01:23:04):
Go ahead ahead, I'm sorry, sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Now and waited too long.

Speaker 7 (01:23:08):
Now it's going to sound.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
How we just diffuse every Steve bomb.

Speaker 7 (01:23:15):
Tell either forget or just won't sound right anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Go ahead?

Speaker 7 (01:23:18):
So the subject to change album? What's that called?

Speaker 10 (01:23:21):
It was called womb Amnesia?

Speaker 7 (01:23:23):
Okay, did it come out or not?

Speaker 10 (01:23:25):
I don't think it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
I think it that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
There's copies, there's used copies for sale and discogs. I'm
looking at them right now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
I guess it.

Speaker 11 (01:23:37):
Doesn't matter whether it came out or not, actually, because
the idea is to re release it now.

Speaker 9 (01:23:43):
Oh god, I would hate to put that record out.
I mean I I just think it sounds like a
raging chipmunk.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:23:50):
It's like, you know, because I was I had just
really become a feminist, you know, like just discovered that
I you know that I was angry, and so I
was really fucking like you know what you know when
you first get angry.

Speaker 10 (01:24:02):
I mean, I was mad about being black, I was
mad about being a chick.

Speaker 9 (01:24:05):
I was mad about everything, and so that album just
sounds like a petulant frenzy, you know, And I.

Speaker 10 (01:24:11):
Think, yeah, I mean, I'm it's sweet you know, fucking pissed,
you know hearing it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Now, is it kind of embarrassing?

Speaker 10 (01:24:21):
Like the thing about like just like I think it's
kind of cute, you know, it tickles me a little bit.
And I just sound so small, you know, like I
sound really small and mad.

Speaker 8 (01:24:31):
So not very potent since you mentioned anger. Just curious
to check your your temperature on the Hollywood right now
as a feminist, and I love it.

Speaker 10 (01:24:41):
Man, this is a great time.

Speaker 9 (01:24:43):
I think a lot of motherfuckers are shaking in their
boots and they should.

Speaker 10 (01:24:47):
It really excites me.

Speaker 9 (01:24:49):
I just can't wait for the next one, you know,
you know what, I can't wait because know, I just
can't wait for the next motherfucker to get strong because
because the truth is, you know, I got two small
daughters who have really already expressed a desire to perform
and I and I don't want them to ever be

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pray for these predators. And I also know myself too,
I am a big fan. I admire so many people,
I admire so many men, and I have just been
blessed that no one decided I was pray because I've
looked up like you know, like I said, you know,
we used to wait outside the bus.

Speaker 10 (01:25:27):
Man looking like we were prey on purpose, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:25:32):
And yeah, they all got to get got because this
is this is ancient, this is the beginning of time.
This is the plight of the weaker sex.

Speaker 10 (01:25:46):
And time is up.

Speaker 9 (01:25:47):
Time is up, motherfuckers. I have been god, no one
ever got me completely. Let's say I got halfway got
And I'll tell you another really sad, shitty fact that
I know you can attest to. If you get a
bunch of women together, not one woman has gotten out unscathed,
not one, not a single one can say they didn't

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get me because we all were so fucking happy to
be there. At one point let it go further than
we wanted it to go. Maybe we even did say no,
and it still kept going. And you know, this is
what has happened to all of us, and this is
why this time is so important, and it's got to
keep going until every last one of these motherfuckers are out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
What do you tell your daughter's like, what do you
say to them?

Speaker 10 (01:26:35):
You know, I have to be very careful. They're four
and six. I don't want them to be afraid.

Speaker 9 (01:26:40):
What I tell them is, if anybody tells you that
they can touch you and don't say anything because they'll
hurt your mom or dad. You tell them your mom
is a wolf, your daddy's a fucking dragon, and nobody
can hurt us. I said, anybody touches you, you tell us.
I can't wait. You know, my babies know and they

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see me. I got you know, I'm not the one
to cut off while driving.

Speaker 10 (01:27:04):
I'm not. I'm not the one in the park. You
know what I mean? Character it actually does, it actually does.
Then don't forget.

Speaker 9 (01:27:19):
My mother's family is from North Richmond, California, so I
can don't push.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Me birthplace of Masterpiece.

Speaker 10 (01:27:26):
That's right, That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
That's so dope. So now, like, what do you pretty
much do?

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Are your days pretty much consistent of voiceover stuff?

Speaker 9 (01:27:38):
It's all voiceover? I mean, I just started writing again.
I'm super excited. I'm singing again, and that's setting me
on fire.

Speaker 10 (01:27:45):
I'm so happy.

Speaker 9 (01:27:46):
Which is you know, when we talk about retro uh
retroactive street Ferry is retroactive, you know, And all of
a sudden, you know, people are talking to me about again.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
I don't know. I mean, I don't know if you
could get back the master or something, but I really
I can't.

Speaker 9 (01:28:03):
It's Sony that belongs to this. I'd have to re
record the whole fucking you know.

Speaker 5 (01:28:09):
But no, I think it was a record. I mean
when it came out, I think it was kind of
before it's time a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
I think it was. I definitely wasn't ready for it. Yeah,
it's definitely more for now.

Speaker 5 (01:28:18):
It would be understood more now than it would, you
know at that time, I think, which us back to
my idea.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
You can't do that.

Speaker 9 (01:28:28):
But you know, also, don't forget there was a weird
thing going on at that time in the nineties. Do
you remember when you weren't allowed to do television and music?

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
Do you?

Speaker 10 (01:28:35):
Guys you know what that was? You don't remember that thing?
If you were on TV, if you, well, that's now.

Speaker 9 (01:28:42):
But if you were on TV back in those days,
you'd come on the stage and they'd be like, ah, fuck,
this is that chick from different world. There's no way
I remember God to say, remember everyone she used to
just play Genghis cohen Man. But at that time you

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really couldn't do both a stigma about it. Now you
better do it fucking everything.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Yeah, because I was thinking like maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
I think your journey with the music, maybe it would
have been different if people knew you from the music
first and then the acting they start. When you start
with the acting first, people automatically discredit you as a musician.
It's easy to be a musician, and I have a
feeling that was what hinder Jasman's career as a singer
as well, because people were expecting and they were waiting
for Whitley to start singing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Yeah, they wanted to give it.

Speaker 10 (01:29:33):
RBL But I am I gotta say though, I am
just super grateful for all the sweetness and love that
people give Street Fairy.

Speaker 6 (01:29:42):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:29:42):
I was just literally facetiming Lenny last night and he
was saying, man, I can't believe how many people won't
stop talking about Street Fairy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
It's so nice, you know, so you're writing now still.

Speaker 10 (01:29:53):
I just have been really set on set a flame.
I caught a fire. It feels so good. You're ready
to perform too, I would like to, Yeah, I will.
I will to.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Rewind back to your voice acting. Yeah you did. You've
done video games as well? Right?

Speaker 6 (01:30:08):
I do?

Speaker 9 (01:30:08):
Not as many, not very many thought. Yeah, I like
there's things I like about video games and things I
don't fucking like about video games. I mean video games
when they set down that script, it's like, right, thud.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
That's what That's what I wanted to ask you about
the strike that recently happened with the voice actors, because
you know, you guys have to do you know, screams
and so many different like you know, so many different
screams and so many different yells.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
It's real voice. Yeah, So I was wondering if that
was something that you had ever encountered.

Speaker 9 (01:30:39):
Well, oh yeah, man, there's some jobs you just call
blood throat. That's like the kind of the code name.
You know, how's your gig today? Blood throat? Man, fucking
blood throat, because it's just page after page of like,
you know, one punch has this sound, one punch has
this sound, thirty fucking kicks, nineteen death cries, and by
the end of the day, by the end of the day,

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you just feel like you've been hit by a semi
you know, in the trope. And and the other thing
about that contract that was so shady was, you know,
these these non disclosure things that we'd have to sign,
and then they were allowed to not tell us what we.

Speaker 10 (01:31:15):
Were auditioning for.

Speaker 9 (01:31:17):
So you'd go to this gig you it would just
say unknown video game, right, and then you'd book it.
They'd negotiate your fucking fee.

Speaker 10 (01:31:24):
You'd book it. Yeah you're in Halo. You're in Halo,
and you got paid ten cents. So we were pissed. Man,
we're pissed. It's not okay.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Wow, So what you know is the union, Well, you
guys did strike behind it.

Speaker 10 (01:31:41):
Yeah, we did strike behind it. Okay, you're a little
bit better.

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:31:46):
They were also, you know, the the video game companies
were saying that it didn't matter if professional actors were
doing the doing the jobs, that it was all about
the game, and that we were incidental.

Speaker 10 (01:31:57):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
We'll always wondered it was why couldn't they just you know,
once you've recorded, you know, twenty thirty people doing all
these different screens, why can't you just reuse them?

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Wait?

Speaker 10 (01:32:05):
You know what the kind directors do, the ones that
you love to work for do they say, ah, we
got it, we got it, go home.

Speaker 9 (01:32:12):
Yeah, we love those people. Yeah, that's Blizzard is really
good like that. Andrea Torre is a Blizzard. They're a
good company.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Which video games were you on oh god.

Speaker 10 (01:32:23):
Honestly, I'd have to IMDb myself.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Much weed.

Speaker 10 (01:32:27):
I spoke so much weed.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
We won't be a fallout.

Speaker 10 (01:32:31):
It won't be a lot of video games fall out
because I don't do a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Of final fantasies.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
Are you an indict?

Speaker 10 (01:32:38):
I like Sativa? I also like a little Skywalker in
the hyd Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
How do you feel about the new the new law situation.

Speaker 10 (01:32:47):
We're going to be able to do it? Yeah, recreation,
I think it's wonderful.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
No, it's not yet, No, it's now, Yes, it is now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
I got I got mine on Wednesday, so I can
do anybody. But there's only four shops in all of
Los Angeles, and they're all and what's Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
But if you have a prescription, we get a discount.

Speaker 10 (01:33:03):
I don't have a prescription. No, I just got a
guy that drives it home. I've got the same guy
that's been delivering this ship, you know, since the Coke Daisies.

Speaker 12 (01:33:13):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:33:15):
It's something about the normal sys. I did that up
until like a couple of months ago.

Speaker 10 (01:33:18):
Yeah, night, what does it feel. I've never ever been
in one of those shops.

Speaker 8 (01:33:21):
Well, you know what's crazy, because it's like seven eleven,
but we no, that sounds went into yeah yeah, And
it's kind of crazy to get your prescription over the
phone and you know, get it five minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
So, I mean, this is what I hear.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Drugs.

Speaker 10 (01:33:36):
I like that door to door man, old school, but.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
They have charged, you know, for delivery.

Speaker 10 (01:33:41):
I don't mind, man, because you're just like now, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
It's like I don't want to get out of the house.

Speaker 10 (01:33:49):
When you want to smoke. You don't want to go anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
You're talking about drones delivering your weed.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
Now, if I was motivated, I wouldn't be exact him. Yeah,
we forgot you were here. We just kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:34:18):
You're like in a different world over there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. I just read something
you were supposed to be make Griffin.

Speaker 10 (01:34:35):
I was Griffin for the first season.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
That was was was I thought that was. I got
to watch the first season again.

Speaker 10 (01:34:44):
That's awful. Don't do it. You know, that's one of
my heartbreaks. Like I just didn't fit, you know, I
gotta say, how do.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
You fit for? I mean, you're like I did.

Speaker 9 (01:34:53):
I didn't veteran of listen, I've been fired from better jobs.

Speaker 10 (01:35:01):
I have, man, I've been fired from some fucking gig everything.
But can I tell you when I do when I
go there from a voice though, you can just get
the same call you get from every gig. You know,
it's not working. You know, we really love her, it's
not working.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:35:19):
Here's the thing. You know, when that fucking job smarts me.

Speaker 9 (01:35:22):
When I go to do a guest spot on The
Cleveland Show and it's a building a family guy like man,
that fucking I get butt hurt going up on the
elevator because I just like, think of all the fucking
money I could have made that was probably get fired from.
But I just didn't, you know, when you just don't gel.
I mean, I have to tell you this. You know,

(01:35:43):
Seth Green and I are that's my love. But the
other Seth, I mean, we just didn't We didn't you do?
Oh yeah, that's a love of my life. He's such
a dope ass dude. But you know it just didn't jibe. Listen,
we all ain't going to be friends.

Speaker 10 (01:35:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
It's like Meg was always just a straight ahead character,
said you didn't have to be silly.

Speaker 9 (01:36:08):
I think that might have been a problem. I don't
know how good I am as the straight man.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Oh, they wanted you more dryer. Yeah, and you were.

Speaker 10 (01:36:17):
I think I was just trying everything everybody else was trying,
you know, because I.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
Love that first season, So I gotta watch it now. Well, yeah,
I was one of the people that was like, I
want to see a bit you know when when they
got cancel when they got canceled all that stuff. It
was one of those people too. Wow, Okay, now I
gotta read Sorry, America, watch it. I gotta rewatch it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Well, so.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
I'm using the Simpsons as as the wrong example, But
is the goal to be on a series so successful
that those residual checks just it would be nice?

Speaker 10 (01:36:53):
I mean, you know, it would be nice. You know
I I don't even think I think about it in
terms like that and in v O because it's such
a constant. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
But what's what constitutes a successful series? Five years?

Speaker 10 (01:37:09):
Twenty years of rug round?

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
Hold on, I'm sorry, I hate to rewind back to
to a family guy, but I just read the wiki.

Speaker 10 (01:37:17):
Together.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
We want to we want to talk about Foxy loving.

Speaker 10 (01:37:23):
Love the fox.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
Yes, let me know if this is correct. On your.

Speaker 10 (01:37:29):
Fat They're fun, get that your fun.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Okay, I just want to see if this is true.

Speaker 5 (01:37:37):
This is on your Wikipedia page, but it says the
reason why Meg got recast because they felt having a
black woman's voice of white character would be racially insensitive.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
The Cleveland show, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
A fucking.

Speaker 10 (01:37:51):
Well, we thought it will be insensitive, so we fire
the black girl white man. If it's true, I hope
it's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Yeah, that would kissed me off.

Speaker 10 (01:38:03):
Yeah, let's let's say that's not You got to.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
Go back in the building. Yeah, I gotta go back.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
I had to update great filling games before you took off.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
We talked about Foxy you know, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
She's not real. You know that, right, Foxy Love. I
just feel that ask some question.

Speaker 10 (01:38:27):
It's real.

Speaker 9 (01:38:28):
She was a Jacoli colored, freaking amed foreman. Then for
Maniac mistress Salva musician.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
She plays Frisbee, that's right.

Speaker 10 (01:38:36):
She played the ship out of the jingle frisk How
many seasons we get out of that? That was like,
I think we only got to God. It was so good.
No one was exempt, I mean even God. I remember
there was like this glory, glory, hollelujah, and he you know,
sorry anyway, saying everybody got theirs you know.

Speaker 5 (01:38:58):
Here's here's a good question. Do you think there should
be limits in comedy? Because, like, you know, the Dave Chappelle,
I love that and you love I love them too,
But there are quite a few people that did not
like the Specials because of some of the topics that
he covered. So I'm assuming that you don't think that
there should be any boundaries in comedy.

Speaker 10 (01:39:15):
I don't know if I just think in comedy, I mean,
I just think that, Oh, that's such a tough one.
I use my instinct when it comes to when I'm offended, do.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 9 (01:39:27):
I I can feel, I can feel when it hurts you.
I can feel when it hurts and then I can
feel when it's just a really fucking clever joke, man.
And listen, caricatures exist for a reason. Yeah, we all
got a little bit of that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
You hear actually said that word.

Speaker 13 (01:39:46):
Caricatures, caricatures, the boxing, caricatures, caricatures.

Speaker 10 (01:40:00):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Hear it? Wow? And actually I almost wish I wasn't
in the room with her so I could just hear it.
Do you kids know what you are?

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
Do you know?

Speaker 10 (01:40:18):
They don't give us ship, They don't watch TV.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
They do.

Speaker 9 (01:40:23):
They watch My daughter loves the Legend of Cora. Brave, Brave,
Little Wing loves the Legend of Cora.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Mama, is that your voice?

Speaker 10 (01:40:31):
You know which one hero loves? Vamporina.

Speaker 9 (01:40:34):
This new show I do on Disney Junior and I
actually the May the Circle Be Unbroken, bye and bye
and bye and bye. I just got them a gig
on Vampa.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
They did, you're pulling.

Speaker 10 (01:40:45):
Oh yeah, let's Mama's gonna be oldest started somebody else
get to work.

Speaker 4 (01:40:57):
To save this time she was seventeen.

Speaker 10 (01:40:59):
Show you right?

Speaker 9 (01:41:00):
Yes, yeah, But they don't really, they don't get very excited.
I mean, every now and then a cartoon will come
on and they'll say is that you? And I say yeah,
and then they just go by the business. As a
matter of fact, I got so excited about Vamporina because
this is the only cartoon they've gotten excited about. At first,
I was trying to push it on them. I'd be like,

(01:41:21):
don't you want to check out this?

Speaker 10 (01:41:22):
Look at this ship like, and they just didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
That One of our guys on the podcast is the
musical director for Sesame Streak and his daughters.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Hate me just about to make even the Halloween episode
when he was like trying to They were just like, no,
I'm good. Well you know I think. I mean, I'm
trying to think of Wars. I was about to say,

(01:41:58):
like I wanted to be there so much. Anyway, Well,
uh listen, this was so.

Speaker 10 (01:42:10):
Long, cried I.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
Well, I appreciate you coming.

Speaker 10 (01:42:19):
Yeah, I'm happy I did well. Like I said, I'm
a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
So we love you, thank you, thank you for.

Speaker 10 (01:42:26):
Meeting you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
She looks at Steve any last words.

Speaker 7 (01:42:32):
Steve now on behalf of two members of the Steve
Miller Man myself, boss, belle yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Yes, I had to step anyway, that's that's that on
behap of it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
Thank you for raising a nation of weird and loving me.

Speaker 9 (01:42:56):
Yes, yeah, just I guess I just want to say, God,
bless the freaks. Freak shall inherit the earth and the squares.

Speaker 10 (01:43:03):
Got will watch the fuck out at night?

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Right the car back please then I'm stalking of all
you freaks out there. Thank you for listening to question.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
This is a question. We will thank you, thank you,
thank you, and I love you. Freak goodbye.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
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