QLS Classic: Jerrod Carmichael

Comedian, actor and writer Jerrod Carmichael talks about how came into the L.A. comedy scene, his distaste for the audition process and shares some of the tricks he uses to make his work special.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quest Loves Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic
episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
What's Up, Everybody, This is Sugar Steve. For this week's
classic episode of Questlow Supreme, we revisit a conversation from
March twenty four, twenty seventeen with the one and only
Jerrod Carmichael. He talks about the inspiration for some of
his best jokes, North Carolina, eateries, and much more. Episode
number thirty three from the QLs archives.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
And joy.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Suprema Su Su Supremo, roll call Suprema su Supremo. Roll
call Suprema Su su Supremo. Roll call Suprema Su su Supremo.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Ro Gerada is here.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, and I feel doom Yeah because Quest Love's officially yeah,
the fourth funniest guy in the road supream something Supremo.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Roll call Suppreamer.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
My name is Fante, Yeah, my voice is ethereal Yeah. Nigga,
You'll never have serious.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Supremo Rod. My name is Sugar. What's up your Rod?
When you're ready to kill us? Yeah, just give us
a nod.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Supremer some some up bring on roll call Supreamer something.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Road Bill wants to know when am I gonna see Yeah,
the Carmichael's Show.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, Season three, Supremer Supremer Road Called Supremo, roll call
paid Bill. Yeah. And this girl I'm with Yeah, told
me to watch Rod. Yeah, because he's the ship.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Come Supremo son Son Supremo Role Suprema Suprema.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Role here Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
Yeah, what do you think I'm funny?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I have so much fear.

Speaker 7 (02:21):
Sure roll This is Gerrard.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, I drinking green tea. Yeah, you call Rick rub Yeah,
ended up with me, right, Supremo roll Call.

Speaker 8 (02:40):
Suprema son Son, Suprema roll Call, Suprema son Son Supremo
roll Call, Supremo Suprema Roll.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
We all said no Russian you.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Bar.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
It wasn't about the statement, It was about the sequel.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
It was the stent. It was the fact that we
all like we had a meeting with ourselves. Fine, we're
going to say no.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
I'm a beast somebody.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Oh yeah, Ladies and gentlemen, Our next guest has been
my favorite hip hop producer for the last.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Five years. His early work with the Beastie Boys and
run DMC. Yes, before he was alive. Yeah, got a
lay on like shoes ball y.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I already have the feeling, ladies and gentlemen, that this
might be my favorite episode of my short lived radio show,
simply because I'm such a fan of our guest he
was kind enough to come at the drop of a dime. Wait, dude,
dimes still exists in two thousand and seven.

Speaker 7 (03:57):
People people actually drop them more than of a super
rich people ask those kind of questions, what is that?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
That was a very.

Speaker 7 (04:07):
I will say this. I was poor, poor long time,
and I'm never like, oh, let me get that dime.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
I don't know if that's obviously you with the coin
star like, I gotta.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Go to coin starre when we get back to New York. No,
you ain't trolling me, because we all know what's happening next.
I like times, believe me. Yeah, we know, bags of
bags and bags. They don't make you.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
Started twenty and keep going.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I meant actual dimes. You know what's crazy? It worked.

Speaker 7 (04:39):
I thought you're talking about girls like You're like, I
like dimes.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Like, and I was like, yeah, they're the smallest. You're right,
this is the greatest episode exactly, all right.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I didn't even get my introduction. Ladies, John, please welcome
my favorite Carmichael.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yes, you guys, I'm happy to be here. Two Carolina
boys in here today. Got yo, yes, yes, yeah, accent
all right.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I also want to thank uh well I am for
being very gracious uh for letting us use his his
facilities to record this shot the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
But yeah, can we.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
Talk about the bathroom. I haven't been to the bathroom.
I've come here once or twice before. I haven't used
the bad I can't believe I missed out.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
On without using that from the future. It's life goals.
It is.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, And what's amazing. What I didn't know is that
when you're finished the toilet, the light comes on in
the toilet, like a glowing light comes from the bowl. Yeah,
and it's self cleans Yeah. And and the air sucks
out the funk.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah. Wow, it's a glowing light. If you don't have
to ship, figure out a way to ship.

Speaker 7 (05:55):
Away from I think that's I think that's cool if
you're like under seventy and like, because like over a
certain age, like all your ship's become like like a study.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And you're doing it.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
I feel like all our grandparents have to look and
make sure and they just seeing a light they will
think it's God called me.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
I'm scared because I don't know that the light was coming.
But you know, it's it's it's it's amazing to see that.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Not to mention it.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
The air thing is so necessary because I don't know
about But if you've ever been in a situation where
like usually if I'm in a hotel room or home,
you know, like if I'm in a hotel room, I'm
instantly trying to make friends with the security guard so
that I can hit the gym real quick. Like I

(06:46):
never go in my room because you know that that
might be a deal breaker with her. Like and the
noise and all that stuff, like it comes with its
own white noise.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
In the water, the water, everything is the best episode.
You can't be waste water like that. I will bring
a blender in radio. I'll take a radio in the bathroom. Noise, man, no,
So welcome to How are you today? Man?

Speaker 7 (07:23):
I believe this is how most episodes of Meet the
Press Ulso, So what were you.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Doing today before I called and interrupted your cycle? I
canceled a couple of things. You know me?

Speaker 7 (07:36):
Of course, of course, you know when you get the
text from you, you you show up i'd say that
I also missed the missed the picnic. I thought it
was this perfect Wait was this was this my guilt card?
Now let me tell you it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I was.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
Here's the thing. I was genuinely excited to do it.
The second thought was, oh, yeah, I missed the picnic.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
This is great.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
This is a great thing. Where I get to I'm
still going to get you for the next picnic, though,
I'm excited for it. But this is such a I
just like missed out on some editing. I'll work on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
It works. You're what are you editing right now?

Speaker 7 (08:08):
The TV show? IM work and we're about wrap for
the season, so like we're just editing. Yeah, so we're
just doing that and uh and then that's it. I'll
do some stand up probably tonight.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
So officially season three is ago, season.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
Threes ago, May thirty first. Ah, yeah, yeah, so I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
This season season one on Netflix on Netflix.

Speaker 7 (08:30):
Now, Yeah, this season, I'm I'm like really excited. You
ever like like work on something and you're like, I
know I said I was excited for the other ship,
but I know I mean it this time, Like this time,
I'm really this season is a sophomore album. Yeah, I'm
like really because it's like crazy. The first episode we taped,
my grandmother commits suicide. She kills herself on camera. It's

(08:52):
gonna be a fu text the pills and dies on
It's a crazy thing that happens. I'm spoiling it. That's
how excited I invite, Like Marla Gibbs plays my grandma,
and and and it's a it's that was the first
episode we take.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I'm excited and figure out, like what taboo subjects can
we cover and just revel in it.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
Any any conversation I have or any like subject that
comes up that wakes me up, you know, like you
the things that you talk about throughout the day to
actually wake you up that you're like the conversations you engaged.
And that's the ones that we try and make episodes
out of because it's it's like boring otherwise, you know.
But like and assistant suicide was the thing we were
talking about, and it was like, oh, well this, yeah,

(09:41):
this will be a fun episode to do. Is she
playing Loretta Devine's mother or David? Yeah, yeah, so she
did a brief appearance in our first season. It's a blur.
I think our second I don't. It was all the
first one with six episodes. It's all a blurnment. But

(10:02):
and now she's back, and how did you She was
so excited? She was excited. I mean, I think people
get excited if the material is like you know, it
can spark some type of conversation or it is edgy
or like you know, excited to do.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
So she was all for what is the writer's room
like for y'all show? Like who's all in it? What
does that look like?

Speaker 7 (10:25):
It's a lot of arguing and yelling at each other
and having fun and disagreeing and jokes. It's it's a
fun environment. We I'll bring a lot of concepts like
before the season starts, and we'll just try and break
stories around them and find perspective and uh and argue
a lot.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, I was going to say, how deep are their arguments?
One time I spent I went on a set of
a comedy show to watch it taping, and during the breaks,
the show runner it was something out of like a
new edition dance step like the second May said and cut.
Suddenly the show runner ran to the spotlight and then

(11:09):
his fifteen writers like surrounded him in a circle.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
It was like Harlem glos, all right, what you got? No, No,
that sucks. That sucks. No, that sucks. No, that's And.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I was looking after I saw the rhythm of the
third time go round. I was watching the ones that
got dismissed. Nope, not funny, not funny, and each time around,
like their body language just became like more.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Defeated. How do you how do you encourage the best
out of your writers?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Because I feel like the writing on the show and
acting as top notch, which obviously I could tell that, Oh,
everyone loves their jobs and they're excited and all that stuff.
How do you get the best out of your writers
without deflating them.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
I think it's like, if you're being honest with me,
I think that's your best. It always looks for truth first.
So like, the thing that I care about the most
is that they are bringing honest perspective to something.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
A joke is just.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
You know, this tension you create that you just let
the air out. So sometimes people yell something that's not
really even a joke. They're really angry, and it works,
you know.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
What I mean.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
I guess I'm saying using all the most you want
to keep morale high and you want people to feel
like their voice is being heard. But the most important
thing that you can bring is truth and that that
comes in any shade of emotion. So we just try
and make everybody feel included, you know, and we hear.
But it's also a tough thing, you know, certain thing
you have to go with your guts.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Ys, do you trust yourself to have the final say though?

Speaker 7 (12:46):
Yeah, that's so dangerous. Yeah, but it's fun. It's because
anything good comes from a specific vision. Everything needs to
like so it always has to be through a filter
of some sort.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
You know.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
Things are a collaborative process, but it has to be uh,
something that you know, usually one or two people kind
of agree on that has to be the guard for
the entire process. And so a lot of things, I
do trust it because I just trust like gut instinct.
It's like, no, I feel this, and even if it's
not the funniest joke, I feel like it fits. It's

(13:17):
kind of like you know, jazz if you will, where
it's just it's kind of off this feeling as it
fits into a structure, and so I just trust that
more than anything.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
So Loretta by the way I.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Think of all the projects that I've seen her do,
this is like one of my I feel like, I
don't know if I'm jumping the gun. I feel like
it should actually garner like Ammy attention.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Like how she's she is incredible. It's so relatable to
me watch the show yet, Yeah she is. Yeah earlier,
I said earlier while you were on your computer.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
She's like, I'm so incredible. I was just talking about, like,
I'm really lucky to have the cast that I have.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
It.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Really it gives me chills thinking about like how great
everyone is, Like everyone's so naturally funny and gifted. And
I mean they make it easy really because you just, like,
you know, writing stuff. A lot of times I just
do impressions of them and like I try and do
my best Loretta Divine voice, if my David Allen Greer,
my Little Rell, and and they make it easy because

(14:33):
you can see them. They're such full people in full characters.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Well now that uh, little Rell and Tiff will probably
have Little Rell is already having a great yeah, and
I'm certain that Tiff will have Tiffany A Dish will
have an equally awesome summer once her movie.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
A Girl Trip comes out out soon or Juliable.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, so are there those characters are going to be
more fleshed out and developed.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
Yeah, we get into, uh, you know, a lot of
their backstory or things that they're going through in their
lives this season because everyone's so comfortable in the character
and they even let us borrow things from their lives
or or you know, to use for the show.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
So definitely we go deeper with with everybody. Cool.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Yeah, I'm excited, really excited about it. I know it
sounds like the bullshit everybody says about a thing within.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
I think you're genuinely excited because most comedians I know
are off camera they're very cynical, and.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Like you seem unusually and genuinely happy. Yeah. I'm like,
your bills are paid.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
Yeah, well yeah, but I'm like, this is gonna well
I hear the bills are paid, then, oh so still
fly by big time.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
It starts playing myself.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Yeah, I wanted that to talk to you about the
casting for the show and how long that took, because
particularly with David Allen Greer, like he was a guy
that was normally known for kind of playing the uptight,
kind of preppy guy but he's total on this show
and it's killing it.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
What was that? Like, how involved were you in the
casting of the show.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Very I mean it was all chemistry and just having
him walk in and Loretta walk in, You're immediately like,
I can't believe that even here, you know, I'm just
so excited that here. And then it was an immediate Yeah,
it was like David Loretta, it was immediate. Yes, I
mean they were just great and they brought the material
to life and they made you want to write more.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
David is good.

Speaker 7 (16:54):
David plays his character I think really well, because I
mean that's David at his core. David is just a
nigga's to code with us when the camera's on.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
But yeah, here's the thing.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
David is just, first of all, one of the most articulate,
well like well yellow drama school, like just as a person,
like so cultured. But David at his court this is
I mean, this is David himself.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, this is so David.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
You don't even mind me saying that, Like, David is
a nigga.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
A couple of years now, guys, tell me about because
you're from you're from Winston Salem, Yes, and so I
grew up in Greensboro. That's my hometown, but my family
is actually Winston too, so uh really yeah, my family,
my grandmother's this is my great aunt. She lived in

(17:52):
Oh my gosh, she's around the corner from Carver. Wow,
I can't remember the.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Name of neighborhood. I'm totally butchering it. Yeah, yeah, I'm
blanking too. Yeah, but it was, it was. It was
very Winston.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
A lot of times in your comedy you talk about,
you know, your beginnings and like how you know, coming
up poor and you know all that.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Tell me about that, because we it was the best.
Tell you what it was. It was.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
It was funny, it was a good it was It
was a good environment in the sense that it was
filled with you know, it was interesting. What did your
folks do? My dad truck driver. My mom was a
secretary at Brenner's Children's Hospital.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Ah, my aunt she worked at Baptists. Everybody worked, everybody works, everybody.
My grandfather he used to work at rentals. I thought
you were going to say you were born there. No, no, no,
I wasn't born there my grandma.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
But yeah, everybody you know, and and it's this community
that's you know it's it's small but not Yeah, I
realized I didn't realize it's a decent sized city once
the Salem was in Greensboro or decent sized cities. And
it's like, as I learned, you know, the more I
meet people, such a similar experience to anybody grew up
in any hood. You know, like it's like so many

(19:09):
of the same elements there. It's a you know, just
a lot of people working class, trying, a lot of
single mom homes. Uh, people that wanted New Jordan's.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
It was just like Dan's is how how it's how
Nike ads should look. I always see.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
People like running up of Mountain. I'm just like, nah,
the core of that is I just do it, just
fuck it, yeah, outside of a store.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
So were you always the funny kid?

Speaker 7 (19:43):
It started like eighth grade, I was, I used uh
humor to not do homework, you know, that type of thing.
But but starting around then, I was, I was always
like writing and creating stuff and writing plays and and
filming things.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
And from just writing, you know, your like your creative
writing and stuff like that. How did you take that
to the stage, Like when was you when did you
actually start doing stand up?

Speaker 7 (20:11):
I started doing stand up here in LA. I didn't start, like,
I didn't want to start in North Carolina. Uh well,
but because why Well for me, I'm I'm really competitive,
and I wanted to be around people that truly their
life to it. Yeah, well the best and people that
were like serious about it. Yeah that's all that they do.

(20:33):
And and a lot of times in cities outside of
LA and New York would stand up. People are doing it,
but it's kind of a thing that people do, and
it's too easy, too easily a hobby, even if people's
part and passion was into it, like just having the
time to do it, like it was kind of this hobby.
And I wanted to move in to where people were
just you know, ruthlessly ambitious and trying to do it,

(20:57):
and like that's an energy that I film more comfortable around.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
So you didn't want to be the big shark in
a small pine for a little bit in North Carolina.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
No, because that hurts people, that that gives you this
false sense of of you know, yeah, especially the way
if it were if it were music, I just say
that I was gonna say no. But music is different
because music is such a it's an immediate thing. I
if I created stand up like my friend Bo Burnham

(21:26):
did this, like he got famous doing stand up from
his home because it was a thing that you record
and you release. He did videos. He was like YouTube
and like use the internet for that and music kind of.
Prince can be at Paisley Park if you're in New York.
It doesn't it doesn't matter. It's not like you your
first your first experience with Prince for most people isn't

(21:47):
a live performance. You know, like this this live show.
It's a skill that he developed. But if it is
just travels differently. Stand up comedy a lot of times
people discover you in a club, especially earlier on before
anyone's trying to record anything that you do. You're you're
in a club, and and that's where you hone your skills.
So it made more sense to be around people who

(22:09):
are who are doing it like that. If I were
a musician, then I may have I would. I mean, obviously,
you know from North Carolina, you know, looking at what
Little Brother did, look with Prince from where he's from. Uh,
But stand up just travels a little bit differently. With
that said, there are people who have been in the
hometown and gotten their material out. But I just think

(22:31):
it's such a competitive thing initially that you just got
to be around it.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
So why not New York instead of LA? Because I
also two things.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
I had an interest in film and television from the beginning,
and it's a thing that I wanted to learn and
be around, and I was excited to jump into that. Also,
I have like an aunt who lives in New York,
and I have friends that were in New York. And
I had a place to stay and security. Yeah, I
didn't want a security blank it just LA. I'd never
really here and I didn't know anyone.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
So how did you afford that?

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Then?

Speaker 7 (23:03):
How do you say, you're a little bit of working
at a shoe store, worked the finish line. You know,
you're no no back back. Yeah, by the grace of God,
I have. I didn't have a regular job in LA.
I moved and tried to have an apartment for a
little bit, slept on couches. After that, you know, the
the typical artists grind of like just trying to figure

(23:24):
it out.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
And then you were to finish line in the mall
and Haines Mall. I was there for years.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
I was there, and then I graduated high school, and
that really highlights how uncool it was to be there.
Like I wasn't going to college and I was just
there and people would come home for like breaking like
nig you're still here, yeah that guy, that guy.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Briefly, this is.

Speaker 9 (23:45):
Possible because just for the people who are listening, who
are like, you know, one day I want to move
to l A and do big things like you can
save a couple of finish line checks, you know.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
And truthfully, when I moved to LA I was working
two thousand and eight, I was working there. This all
happened in a matter of like two months. I was
thinking about, like what I wanted to do with my life.
A friend of mine took me to comedy club. I'd
only been to one comedy club before my life. It
was at the Cellar in New York. My family visited.

(24:13):
I saw Dave Hotel performed. It was the first time.
My second time at a comedy club was in two
thousand and eight. A friend took me. I wanted to
do it. Somebody came in to finish line.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
It was this guy.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
He said, he was making small talk. I asked what
he did. He said he was an actor who lived
in LA I was like, man, that sounds cool. I
want to move there. He was like, just move and
I was like oh, and he told me like, go
to Craigslist of Westside rentals, final place and move.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
And then I did.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
I remember like printing the receipt paper, wrote those things down,
and I was here in August and that was.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
You landed here.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
Then decided and then and yeah, well I had I
found a place on Craigslist. They didn't have photo. I
had a place that I was going to. It was
like a one bedroom apartment. Three other people were in there.
I slept on a love seat, you know, like and
I was happy. Yeah, I was really happy. And then
I just started comedy as soon as I got here.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
And how long was that life?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
I mean a few years for me.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
For me, things happened kind of quickly, you know when
you look at a lot of comedian stories, like you know,
some guys ten years or fifteen years of trying to
figure it out. But for me, after about a year,
I you know, it kind of clicked for me. And
then by two years in I was kind of on

(25:41):
a you know, under the uh. I had the attention
of industry or whatever whatever stuff leads none of it matters,
but it does. It doesn't, but it does. I hate
it and I love it to be the name of
the memoir. I hate it, but I love it.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
What spots were you working out of when you first
came to l A improv laugh Factory?

Speaker 7 (26:10):
All the clubs, a lot of back rooms, bars, surprise shows,
people that thought they would come and watch a game.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
So who's the first person? I mean, I almost imagine that.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
It's almost like entering comedies could be the equivalent of
like your first day in jail, Like who's the who's
the first person? That you kind of had to be
friends to sort of get the rules?

Speaker 7 (26:34):
And my friend still my best friend to the stage,
Jamar Neighbors.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yo, we're going to talk about him in a second.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
Love him first, first person. Uh, the only piece of
advice I've taken was from him, the only so he
was established first, he had been He's from l A Okay,
and so he was familiar with it and he was
still coming up and still you know, figuring it out.
But I did my first open mic at the Comedy

(27:03):
Store and I got off stage and he was like,
it's like, hey, man, you're funny. You just slow down
a little bit and you Yeah he said that, but
you were first set man, first set. It was just
like a it was like twister doing commons.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
No one like you. I was going to say, like
you're your level of silence and pacing is.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Really on the last special like that ship was that
was balls? Nah for real, Like that was yeah, it
was dope.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
So you don't feel a certain way like if you happened,
if you say it punchline and it might go with
an audience member ahead or whatever, you'll just let it do.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Yeah, there's somebody like you. You thought it for a
reason and you you crafted and say it a certain
way for a reason. And it's like, especially if i'm taping,
you know, like taping a special, it's not just even
about the room. It's going into people's homes, and it's
like you record it for that experience, you know, And

(28:07):
that's what I make specials for. And but on stage,
you know, if any live show, if a thing goes over,
there's something for you. And that was Sometimes I'll write
something or think something that I know, like in a
room full one hundred people, ten are going to connect
with us and I'm completely cool and.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
You're fine with that.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
Yeah, because for that ten it's really going to mean something.
As a whole, it'll be you know, it'll be something
I ideally i'd say that, I'm sure a couple of
people have left. I'm happy, but but there'll be something
for everybody. You know, that's the goal. But you know
some things aren't for everybody.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
The first show, the one you did delive at the store,
how did that come about?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
And?

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Well, first, how long did it take for you to
write that material? And how to Spike Leaguet involved?

Speaker 7 (28:57):
I I that was kind of material that I that
was two thousand and fourteen. I think when we take that,
it was just stuff over the years that I kind
of picked up on and a lot of I say,
over the years, there was some things from over the years,
and then a lot of it was just new. The
goal for that was to treat it as if it

(29:17):
was just you coming to the comedy store on a
Saturday night and just me kind of doing some old material,
trying out new stuff, and just for it to be
organic and natural. The voice that introduced me is this guy,
Argus Hamilton, who always has nine to fifteen spot at
the store, and he would bring me up, and so
that's why I had to bring me up. Jamar did

(29:39):
a set. You know, it was a very Yeah, it
was like a very like. I wanted it to feel
that vibe got spike because I wanted it to feel
like a documentary. I don't usually like comedy specials, if
I'm being honest, and so I wanted it to.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Feel like explosions and your name in the back. It's
just all this.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
Yeah, all this unnecessary popping ones.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
The cut to six years later from now it's comedy
spec No but your, but your. It has to fit you.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
I think the reason I like it is because things
aren't necessarily personal, like like Chris Rock is a guy
who the cr behind his head makes it. It fits
with the vibe. That's how it's comedy looks and sounds
comedians like. Not everybody's gonna fit that vibe. Like comedians
have this tendency to go away from their own lane

(30:28):
and try and fit into what they think comedy is.
And and so that's why specials start looking alike and
sounding alike, and and people's materials starts running in together
because everyone tries to fit comedy instead of bringing comedy
to them. So with the Love at the Store, was
just important to have it personal. It was just a
personal documentary. I go to my notebook, I try out

(30:49):
new ship, I.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
Would say, So that last bit when you like the
Illuminati garbage man.

Speaker 7 (30:53):
Yeah, like that was that was really you just trying
that out. I've done that before. I've done that before,
but it was it was relatively new. I think, like new,
I shouldn't the set, but it's like I've done that before.
It's and it's really written in that notebook, and it's
really because I just wanted it to feel that way.
But I uh, I called Spike. I was sometimes I

(31:18):
like I was trying to think of director. Sometimes I
like to think I would put on there's a song
from She's Got to Have It, Uh.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Nola with vocals, Yeah, there's a girl.

Speaker 7 (31:28):
Yeah, And I was I was like playing that in
my living room and I was like, oh, Spike, yeah
every way, Yeah I was.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And then I love Nola with vocals and singing on
that one. That's him. Damn went deep with Ronn either King.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Reference King, Okay, should your popularity ramp up.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
One hundredfold? Where you know you land three or four
big movies or whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
All right, say if you get Murphy ezed, Yeah, would
you think that your level of comedy could translate to.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Stadiums?

Speaker 1 (32:28):
And because you're such an intimate former that you know,
is that even a dream like, Hey, I like to
sell out the Forum or you.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
Know, the only way I would do it is if
I two things. If I felt like the material somehow
warranted that type of venue. You know, at that point
you always want to stay open as an artist. I
don't know exactly how change evolved, so staying open to that,
or if I found a way to bring the performance

(32:59):
or or some type of show to that arena where
I could truly feel it, not just for the sake
of seats, because comedy over anything over like three or
four thousand people. Really, even the just sound, the way
a laugh travels, it's like it's not everyone doing something
in Unison, it's it's it has to travel.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
And Christy said that same thing, Chris. When Chris he
played Deep Act a couple of months ago. Yeah, and
he I was talking to his stage guy. He said,
he said the exact same thing. He said, you know,
you may do a joke and like the person in
the back may laugh first, and then it takes time.
Your timing is way different because you actually have to
give it time to travel.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yeah, but you have to anytime. I mean I've done,
you know, theaters of four thousand seas. It just doesn't
the rhythm. You have to find a rhythm for that,
you know. And so if I did it consistently and
got used to it and found a way to bring
a show to that, then yeah, but not just for
the sake of filling seats.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I mean I care about the show first.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
So as a comedian, how do you feel about I know,
one subject that I often hear, especially at the Tonight
show when comedians come on ish the idea of like
politically correct comedy and how we're in kind of a
new place right now.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Where Twitter has ruined everything.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Well, I mean, we're just in a more politically correct,
more sensitive place right now. Like in other words, I've
seen many a think piece on Day on Dave's Netflix
specials that didn't hit home with a lot of people

(34:47):
because of the way that times are now.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Like even if you watch Eddie Murphy's Raw, which Delirious
is like the first delirious.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Right like that couldn't fly now in twenty seventeen. How
but I know you especially with Jamar. Have you heard
America's Nigga?

Speaker 9 (35:09):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
I have, all right, so Uh Brennan.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Neil Brennan hit me up like one in the morning
and was like, yo, I need you to go to
this website and download this record and listen. And if
you know Neil the way that I know Neil, like
there's Neil and Chris Rock are probably like the two
uh figures in my life that are a constant maybe

(35:38):
Fonte and Bill as well like that are not easily impressed. Yeah,
you have to actually be good for them to you know,
And yeah, Chris is Chris is hard to please.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Neil's even harder to please Neil. I don't bring something
to Neil unless I'm like I want to beat good.
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like yeah. But the thing is
when they say it's cold and you're like, oh shit,
this is really gonna work. It means more than your
father's approval.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I'm telling you now, like yeah, like they're now like
my new dad's Like yeah, it means more.

Speaker 7 (36:12):
I always go to them just to you know. Chris
called me after the special and that meant more. I
like told every I was like.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Chris called me that means something he got after the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he called me. That totally means something. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
So when Neil told me, yo, listening to this record,
then I was like, oh god, you haven't done this
in like six years and six years ago it was
like a rap record I forget about Yeah, and I
heard it. I think that's the first time whenever like
critics asked me like, oh, where's your favorite record, that's
the first time a comedy record was ever really number

(36:46):
one record? But so, god damn uncomfortable.

Speaker 7 (36:50):
Yes, but Jamar is just unapologetically himself, the most confident
person I've ever met, the most like pure, you know,
on stage, fearless and excited and doesn't give a fuck
about anyone's like anything of their opinion. There what, it's

(37:12):
just him, it's him, unapologetically him.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Well yeah, so where do you as far as where
the times are leaning? Like, I know that comedy is
supposed to be pain plus what's the formula it's supposed
to be like pain? In reality it's tragedy plus time. Yeah,
tragedy yeah, yeah, So how do you do you still

(37:35):
come from the school of Okay, I'm gonna take the
most taboo thing I can find and make it funny.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
No, that's that's genuinely never my thought. I never think
about whether or not a thing is taboo or it
really is if it excites me, if it's something that
I have a perspective on, I don't say anything unless
I it comes from an honest place, such an honest
place that I'll either defend it, like I'll defend it

(38:04):
after it's been released, but I'm really defending it in
the joke. The joke is the defense of this thing,
you know.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
What I mean.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
Like, it's a self defense. It's a self represented concept
that you give. And it's like, yeah, I said all
the stuff i'd say a lot of times I'll preface
something with like, I know this is wrong and you'll
disagree with it, but here's an honest thought.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
I think a good example of that in the joke
the bitch you do about not having a kid is
better than having a kid.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, dog, So yeah, it's just.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
He was like, Yo, he's watching a woman you don't
trust swallow a field. It's just like, yes, dog, yo.

Speaker 7 (38:48):
I've never done I've never done, Molly, I have an
experimented with LSD or anything. But if it compares to
that feeling, I get it. It makes me understand heroin.
I'm oh that, oh oh, completely free and uninhibited and
like the world is yours?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Oh is that what heroin is?

Speaker 9 (39:07):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Well then yeah I do that. Yeah, yeah, it's the
defenses there. I'm my obligation is to me and to
be honest and to give you honest thoughts. I don't
consider it at all. I don't consider it like you know,
oh what, people aren't gonna hate because people are gonna
hate this because I'm not saying hateful things. It all

(39:29):
comes from such a real place. You know that that
I'm I'm either defending in the joke or if you
don't understand, I'll defend where I'm coming from. It's not
defending whether not a thing is right or wrong. You know,
that's not what artist art isn't about. You know, Hey,
this is the right point, you know, let me create

(39:50):
something around it. It's feeling and you I'm articulating a
feeling to you, and I'm saying this is how I
feel about a thing. I'm not trying to convince you
otherwise I'm saying, and this is how I feel what made.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
You decide, especially in twenty sixteen, to have a multi camera.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
Format because that is going to America. I like the
idea of like this is going to America, Like this
show goes out family, Yeah, this goes out to like
just like the homes that like us in the bubbles
of LA and New York. A lot of times don't consider,
you know, like my family's home. Like content is content

(40:31):
that's usually made for them, that's targeted for them, like
a multi cam or something like that usually dumbs down
to such a degree that it's not it doesn't feel fulfilling,
you know.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
And so to me, this was the fun.

Speaker 7 (40:44):
The fun is like and the challenge is to try
and bring something that hopefully has real thought and real
perspective in it to you know, an outlet that's targeted
to America, you know, because I mean there's a version
of this that could exist on emium. K.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, but I didn't make that. This isn't do you
think you could do that though? I mean I think
it would be fun to do.

Speaker 7 (41:09):
I think it would be fun to try, because you
then you get to just be you know more personal,
you can stay in the pocket of something you can.
It's like those jokes that are saying that it's gonna
go over a lot of people's head. You're you're making
such specific art that you can kind of as long
as it's personal and it's you. A lot of times
those are the better shows, So it'd be fun to

(41:29):
try and do that. But for this this swing, it
just felt like a fun thing.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
The multi camera for your show.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
I think it makes it a little more subversive too,
because if it was something that was like on FX,
or if it was like, you know, a Sonny, or
if it was a you know, Louis or something that
was shot in like this is serious art, you know
what I mean, If it was shot in that way,
then you know it kind of is you're kind of
leading a little bit. But when something has the facade
of oh, this is a multi camera family show, but yeah,

(42:01):
grandmother kills herself.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah, I mean, well the truth, that's what makes it
so fun.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
The the most fun thing to do is you have
to imagine, right like a lout of these code openings,
imagining whatever we're following, and like we follow like little
big shots fencer. So there's just a reality competition with
children just trying to make it.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Really the true drama for.

Speaker 7 (42:30):
A little big shots is the parents. But we don't
get into that. But we're just children, yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:36):
Just put the weight of their failures on top of
this kid who can juggle shoulders. But anyway, that's what
the kids really juggling his father's hopes. But but but
you got this happy show. Steve Harvey's ripping with families
and like, and the kid's made it to the found
around and he's crying and his grandma's crying, and then

(42:58):
you cut to like just I show just like you're like,
you know, I broke a condoms. The next line, the
next words they hear are that, And you don't understand
how fun that is.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
It's the most fun.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Has comcasts ever or your higher ups at Comcast ever said, uh,
we can't do that.

Speaker 7 (43:22):
They've had caution. They've actually let us get away with
a lot of stuff. The guys at comcasts that that
I've encountered actually really liked the show.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
I really think. I mean, I'm not. I know it's
easy to say it.

Speaker 7 (43:35):
I don't want to tell if you watch the show
next to most any like multi camera, especially or any
like broadcast like comedy. What we try and do is
the opposite, which is like usually it's like turn your
brain off. It's a really happy world where everything's like
shiny and people speak in like kind of unrealistic joke patterns,

(43:58):
and like even the lighting and every think about it
and the subject matter is usually even when anytime someone
uses the word tackle, that means that they're not gonna
tackle it. That means that it's gonna be like like
they tackle, you know, it's gonna be some left leaning
where all united, you know, type of ending. I try
and do the opposite of that. I was just trying

(44:19):
to look for whatever the real thing is.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Well. On the Trump episode, to do with your dad,
would David.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah, you voted, Yeah, voted for Trump, like
I thought he was gonna win. I felt like Trump
was gonna win. You felt that, then that's I named
the episode. We taped it in April, and I named
it President Trump because I was like, Oh, He's gonna win,
Like it was like there's no way he doesn't win,
Like I really believed it. And that's what like I
was gambling on that, and so just seeing everyone go

(44:46):
like you know Trump is bad or not take them seriously,
just see boring and not real to what what what?

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Because I I think I know where it comes from.
But what made you say that he was gonna win
because we're infatuated with him?

Speaker 7 (45:03):
It was like very few things had seen in my
lifetime get this type of mass infatuation like one is
like it's like the oj trial, the marc Ana God
damn Donald Trump, you know what I mean, like essentially ghosting,
you know, like like it's mass infatuated. We couldn't let

(45:27):
him go. We couldn't stop either side. And it's just
like that much publicity. You can't discount publicity in America.
You know, it's a thing. You know, Nixon v. Kennedy.
You know Kennedy was younger, more attractive and willing to
wear makeup during the debate. You know, like it's the
he's the easier, the easier guy to market. He's the

(45:48):
marketing is this is America, and I love I don't
want to sell citical, but marketing is everything and everything
you know is a lie.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (46:00):
I hope you hope you enjoy it. I hope you're
enjoying your afternoon. Hey, Rick, You're my dream.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Comes to man? Knock about the Box? Was Neighbors? Your
first movie? Was that your first time? Yeah? Yeah, that
was my first movie. Okay, how did that come about?
I had a meeting with.

Speaker 7 (46:27):
Point Gray, with Seth and Evans Company, and then I
did an audition and it was the first audition I
didn't walk out of you walk out about this? I
haven't auditioned well. But I don't like them. I don't
like the room. I don't like what it is.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
So for someone, what did you walk away from it
and can go into?

Speaker 7 (46:49):
You go into a room, you put your name on
a piece of paper, You sit down. There are other
people that are going out for this part. So usually
it's either people wearing similar outfit or people that look alike.
In one room you go in. You know, you stand
in a room with another person, You read lines, You

(47:10):
try and do a good read. They record you on
a video camera from like two thousand and three. You know,
you leave the room. You never hear from them again. Typically,
it's what an audition is me. I go to the room,
sign my name on a piece of paper, sit down,

(47:30):
look to my left, look to my right, stand up,
mark my name offset piece of paper, go.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
What would get somebody? Why would you walk out?

Speaker 7 (47:41):
It's like, well, what am I doing here? I don't
like It's like, am I what am I contributed to
this project? What is it contributing to me? We're lying
to each other that you don't have any use for
each other?

Speaker 6 (47:52):
What are other garis that are sitting in the weight room?

Speaker 7 (47:54):
Yeah, and those guys deserve it. They were nicely, they
got better smiles. That like they've been working out.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Is great.

Speaker 7 (48:03):
They give it.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
The other Gerards are killing it. Those dudes, they really
got it. They are nailing it. No, not for nothing.
I feel as though you are.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Uh seconds away from your I'm ready for my close
up moment.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
But but do you do you want to play that game?

Speaker 7 (48:28):
I have to write it, I have to create the
thing is like one of the movies I'm working on
is technically a bigger comedy, and it's a it's a
concept that that I came up with like a couple
of years ago, and it's a bigger comedy. You know,
bigger comedies typically aren't that good, you know, like they
really aren't the fun. The same thing with like a

(48:50):
multi camera, same thing with anything is to bring some
type of perspective or thoughtfulness into the whatever we're doing.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
So I think you can do.

Speaker 7 (49:01):
I think a huge action movie can be good, you know,
and like have like some type of thought behind it.
I think Beverly Hills Cop is great, you know, But
it's just my goal is just to avoid, you know,
the the mindless and avoid the the horrible version of it,
you know, because there's a horrible version of Indie. There's

(49:23):
a horrible version of you know, everybody. Everything that is
a bit underground isn't good, you know, like, but it's
you're just trying to do the good version of it.
So that's what's fun is seeing if we can try
and do a good version.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Are you developing the movie ideas that you would like
to star in yourself? That year?

Speaker 7 (49:44):
There's one I'm right and now that that I'll probably
start in. I didn't want to star in it. I
wrote it and I was really hoping Jim Carrey was
gonna do it. But before before writing, I partner with
these guys Colin Mario, who wrote the bulk of the script,
and I had the concept uh and uh I wanted

(50:05):
Jim Carrey for But then it's like, yeah, you should,
you should just do it. It's still not too late
until it's recorded. To Jim Carret stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Part of me feels like you're like the reluctant.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Celebrity Is it that you've seen other people try to
cross the street and get run over.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
Or celebrity is or you know, all the money is
behind the camera, And well, yeah, I care about behind
the camera a lot because I know that a lot
of things that we see are all producers mediums and
producers visions, and like being a producer is the it's
my favorite role. Celebrity is like like in itself is
kind of cheap. Like I care about making stuff. I

(50:45):
like making things, and if any type of notoriety is
a byproduct, that's sure, but that's how I.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Think of it.

Speaker 7 (50:50):
I'm usually not even out, so I don't even know,
you know, like the the like any type of fame
or just to have my face on something just seems empty,
you know, just to be in something just seems empty.
I just wanted to be good, So it's the reluctance
is for quality, for quality sake. I'm just kind of

(51:10):
hesitant because I just want to be in stuff that
seems challenging. And fun or interesting.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
I forgot who the comedian was that they mentioned the package,
and I don't know if this is something we talked
about the show You with Chris or somebody, but they
talk about the package where they say, all right, you're
gonna in your stand up career at some point you're
gonna get the package where they say, you know, you're
gonna get the TV show and then the movie did and.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
The book and book and and then and you know,
you get a record deal offer, Hold on, can I
produce this singing record? I would come on, man, hey, hey,
if you could do, I just want you to do.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Every now and then.

Speaker 7 (51:48):
I actually I say my first version of hearing a
really love the the Angelo record had you want to saying.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
This is a quest Love exclusive and I did it
for me.

Speaker 7 (52:02):
Yeah and so and that's like, yeah, so if you
just say that over whatever record me singing off key
in the background, this is yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I had that traumatized me. That was I've never heard that.

Speaker 7 (52:18):
That was the earl having That was the That was
like the first you actually felt like you were you
had something Illgalah.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
So you didn't just leak it. You actually said this
is a quest Lex played on the radio, didn't you, I.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Know, not only played it on the radio, said that
wait cut to holy crap, cut to cut you. A
night in Virginia, A night in uh Richmond, Virginia after
roots show. Me and de ain't talked about talking over
a year, and I guess he just got words. This

(52:52):
ship came out and Steve car I'm at a DJ gig.
He's like, look, you like warm me to run?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Right? I just remember how it went. I was like,
but I did warn you. You're like, look, I know
you don't know this, but looking for you?

Speaker 9 (53:09):
And what do.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Yeah, Deani's cousins looking for you, so just run. They
must have called me looking for you and they're like
what club you know?

Speaker 6 (53:24):
They was?

Speaker 1 (53:25):
It was like, mister big, when did this happened? I
was like two thousand and five. We were still worn
with each other's Lariosyah. I really, you know, as much
as like I like to claim being fast forward with
the Internet, that's one aspect I really didn't know.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
I didn't know, Like you know, in my mind I
was I was in Australia.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I was in Perth at an underground bunker college station,
like four in the morning with like, and I was
just like, you know, I was feeling myself. I was like, well, yeah,
you want to hear it, And I'm thinking, like, I'm
just on some local college radio show things. Really I'm
in Perth. Perth is like the loneliest place on Earth.
I didn't realize. And then like three months later someone

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realized what they were listening to.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
And just.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Destroyed my life. Oh but yeah, I mean four years
later we made up.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Man, But if I knew you said this is a
Quest Love exclusive, I would have told his cousins where
you were.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
That's wow, motherfucker. I was on local races.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I realized that, you know, internet radio. I don't listen
to my radio on the computer back then.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah that so did somebody recorded or something like that.
Somebody And that's what people live with for like six years.

Speaker 7 (54:46):
But it but it really set this tone for how
even when it came out years later on the album,
it set the tone for how I heard the.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
It really did feel like Park was missing.

Speaker 7 (54:59):
You want to well, no, it's just when you you
saying it, you felt like I really got some exclusive
ship here. But it really it feels like how Frank
Lucas did Heroin deals.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
It was like, hey, man, this is yeah, I guaran
see it.

Speaker 7 (55:13):
They know that, like because I just pictured you just
in a basement, like I could just see what.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Did you put the echo on? An exclusive? Exclusive?

Speaker 7 (55:24):
It really felt like it really felt like he could
get killed for like you felt it in.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
His he was almost bacon, almost bacon. That's how you
dropped a joke. It's only a joke. We get yeah, man,
so what what I know? This is weird?

Speaker 5 (55:53):
But what other comedians do you check for or should
we check for that? We don't mean, you know, Jamar,
that's number one. Very few people make me laugh like him.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
What's he doing? Not what's he doing now? But is
he planning on entering?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Because he's such he's like sun riding me. Like it's
just a very avant garde jazz guy that only he
has two other records. One record in which no one
likes his jokes, like it's just you hear the groans

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in the audience.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
And he's like I don't I don't care. But then
the other one where they're laughing.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I'm like, wait, why would he release both records of
the same material with an audience feeling and an audience
feeling it.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
It's just he is. He is brilliant to it. He
really is just like a brilliant It's like Andy Kaufman.

Speaker 7 (56:50):
Yeah, and he's he's gonna do a special I think
uh at some point when we were talking about it
the other night. Uh So hopefully soon because I am
excited for his He he hasn't really jumped in yet,
you know, like the album Naked is such a you know,
Neil knows about a few people know about it, and

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the people that know, you know, love it. But I
think he's gonna jump in really soon. So he's a guy,
uh that I'm excited about. He's he's always on the show.
He's on my show. He just makes random appearances every season.
We just find a way for Jamar to just like
appear in a hallway or.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Just the thing.

Speaker 7 (57:32):
And who else. There's this guy out of Chicago. He
lives in New York now. He writes on snl uh
so also checks from Comcast Drew Michael, who I think
is is absolutely brilliant. Like he he's a guy that
just like you know, between him and Jamar, those are
the guys I would say check for in the new.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Joint, the eight the latest latest special.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
I saw, well, my experience with it was was different
because I just saw it first and then I saw
the I forgot what that write up was, what it
was in where the critic was there and he was
just like, yo, this was odd.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
It was live. Yeah, I can't remember what it was,
but but you say that you wanted the first one.
Loved the store. It felt more like a documentary to me.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
Eight felt like a documentary like that was just the
way it was shot and like some of the shots
it was just really close on you and those real
long pauses.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
That was just something man. Again, that took a lot
of balls, like to do. Yeah, oh thank you.

Speaker 7 (58:34):
Bo Burnham and Bo and I were just we based
it off like concert for like we based it off
of It had to be personal and vulnerable. That was
the goal because like you know, for me, that was
just a thing that I love about, like comedy, like
in humor, you know, just as a concept, just the

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vulnerability of it.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
We really just wanted to focus on that.

Speaker 7 (58:58):
It was the crowd like they were that yeah, yeah,
we get caught like and again it was tait. It
was for the experience of you being in your homes
watching it and seeing the vulner It was for those
those really tight moments, the silence, the you know, the
emotion of it. It was like just trying to lean
into emotion over over everything. When we watched concert footage.

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We watched I mean everything. We we like, you know, movies,
you know, Sergio Leone type shots and and uh out.
It was inspired by like this Marvin Gaye album Vulnerable. Yeah,
that and the working title was called Vulnerable, and I
would kind of listen to that, and like a lot
of concepts came while listening to that, and like, uh,

(59:45):
you know, even just performance was more. There's this Edda
James live and montro where she sings I'd Rather Be Blind, Yeah,
and that is my single favorite live performance that that
I've ever seen, Like just it's so raw and emotional
and you know, and the faces there and she's making

(01:00:07):
expressions and it's weird and it's personal. And that was
the intention behind eight. Was just this really personal thing
that just felt like a conversation that just felt.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
True to you know, who I was. What was it
like to do it in the round. It's really fun.
I've never seen a comedy thing in a round.

Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
I have limited experience with it too. It just that
that also made me feel really vulnerable because people are
all around around and you're surrounded, Yeah, you're and so
to lend itself. So I only did two performances in
the round around La just to before doing the round,
and then just went for it. And it just something
about it felt right, It felt natural, It seemed to

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fit with you know, where the material was and where I.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
Was natural turn, did you have to remind yourself?

Speaker 7 (01:00:51):
I naturally kind of pace around, like I kind of
naturally like I'll have a lot of times that it's
a song in my head and a lot of time
I'm dancing and and it's weird. I'm kind of stepping
around and even like if a song is strong enough,
I'll I'm kind of saying things to the rhythm of it,

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like on stage, like there's certain like you hold certain
words and you're trying to match patterns, your patterns and
stuff like that. So you know, I always move, you know,
I always move, Like the the default song would be
like take five, like brew Beck's Take five. It's kind
of constantly just because the movement is such a dance.

(01:01:32):
So you like this and pause and say that yeah, like, yeah,
it's like kind of a little bit, but only specific
little I'm not doing the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
It's not just singing or so. But that's your polarizing trick.
I get it. Chappelle.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Do you know about Chapelle's polarizing chick? He yeah, Well,
if when you see him perform, you'll see, uh, he'll
put a cigarette in his mouth, not light it, let
it dangle. He'll grab a cup, put it to his
not drink it, and then he'll wake you up, always
by hitting his thigh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yeah, like he'll laugh, do the thing on this thigh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
All of that is hypnosis thing that he learned in
uh communication class, which is like there's a way to
hypnotize the audience to always pay attention to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Rational mind decreases and the emotional mind.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
Yes, because you want him to drink like your mind
then immediately goes well, like you know what the next
step is and it's a disruption of that step and yeah, yeah,
exactly mine.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:02:38):
Rhythm like jazz is of influence, Like Chris is repeating.
Chris repeats, he sets up, he repeats. Yeah, especially the
prim the premise is going to be very clear to
you by the time he does the punch for Chris
because of the yeah, the repeating yeah, yeah, it's rhythm.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
So who teaches? Who's your teacher?

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
As far as like is it just uh work working
out and and uh kind of taking notes or is
it who's your teacher? As far as like letting you know,
like how far to go with your joke and your
patterns and those.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
I kind of just figured.

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
I mean, I mean there's influence from I love rhythm,
So every you know Cosby if you can say you
know Cosby. Yeah, Jack Parr had this really good speaking
voice and like rhythm to his voice, and and Jack
Benny and b Arthur and you know, uh the way

(01:03:40):
I will watch James Baltwood speed Like even as a
kid in Malcolm Xspek, I watch a lot of and
would listen to a lot of speeches. I like speaking
in people's voices and the ebb and flow of that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
So you as it's about the quote, it's mostly the voice.

Speaker 7 (01:03:56):
It's yeah, the voice. Yeah, it's it's like finding it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
And I didn't know that because yeah, Dave said that.
He's like, well, you know he took on mail blinks. Yeah,
He's like I took on Mail Blink's voice and you
can say anything in mail Blink's voice.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
It's going to be funny, yes, which I didn't even
think of that at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
So the voice, the Jack Parr just is this your
definitive voice, Like Chris Rock had two voices if you remember,
like Born Suspect. Yeah, he didn't quite find his thing,
and then he found the preacher voice and then that
became his lock.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
So yeah, it's it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:33):
What changes for me is rhythm, like my it's my voice, like,
but rhythm like that song element of it is what
changes is like that's why it's you know, the pauses
and this and that, and I can hear it and
you can kind of see it, and so that's what
changes for me. My voice is I have it. It's

(01:04:54):
pretty close to you know how I naturally speak on stage.
I speak clear, I'm like a little jolty in like
off stage, like right now, because there's always a million
thoughts on stage is actually paced out more the way.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yeah. So the stuff that you did on eight, had
you tried those jokes out before, had you been working them? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:05:13):
Yeah, I worked I've worked on a lot of that
some stuff. I mean, it's always something new. Like the
the opening of it was the night before. I hadn't
tried it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
I just it was like the night before.

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
But then, Uh, there's a couple of moments and then
some moments that you just think of in the you know,
while you're doing it. But most of it was stuff
that I worked out and thoughts that I wanted to do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Take us through the construction of a joke and like
you know, I mean in English class, you know how
they would have the we would have the chart where
it'd be like, okay, exposition riseing action, falling action.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Yeah, yeah, you know, daynam and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
So like the beats of a joke, like particularly, I
mean the cereal joke, the one I quote it like,
walk us through that, Like how did you know that?
Or did you know that the nigga You'll never have
cereal line was gonna punch that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
That was? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
That was that was that Uh that I did, like
that in its full concept from eating cereal with Jamar
at three in the morning, me and Jamarrow.

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:06:24):
We lived together for a while and we would uh
and started getting money or whatever. The biggest change was cereal,
Like we just started buying like we had all the
cereal in the world and then like it was just
one one night at three in the morning after a
trip from Ralph's like like we're like it said down.

(01:06:44):
I was just like and I said it as the
as I said the jokes like that we eat cereal
like a teacher told us, will never have seen Like
that's how we like we It was like we were
trying to prove something in which we were which we were.
It's the same thing with shoes or whatever you do.
Is that truth hit me. And a lot of times
when the truth comes, that's what the joke is like,

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it's like, oh, yet that and everything else is setting
up and explaining that truth.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yes, I was good. Yes, So how do you go
take it from a truth to a joke?

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
Just argue it. It's like a lot of times I
have a point or fault and I'll just argue it.
I'll argue it with friends or argue it on stage
based off the audience's reaction and like the expression I
was like, oh you still hate it, you still don't
understand that. I'll keep arguing it and then I'll find
a way in That's kind of what I'm doing.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
I'm just arguing, yeah, the reserve that I think that
the reserve joke, the bit where like more people have died.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
What was that?

Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
That was from a real argument because of it was
it's a close friend of mine, not little not my
little brother, but uh, he joined the reserves. I thought
it made I told him I thought it made him arrogant.
We were trying to watch Zero Doctory together. Yeah, he
criticized it. I was I was offended that he had
the audacity to criticize it, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Being a and and and those are things that I
said to him. Who is we nigas?

Speaker 8 (01:08:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:08:06):
Yeah, it was like we would have never killed in
line like that. I was like, motherfuck, are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Right now?

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
We the bitch you did about your uh how you
know we talk about you accountant and being a being
the first one to make it out is an expense.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
Yeah, talk about that. That was from a conversation. I
really a lot of the truths that that came. And
I just text him and told him I had I
was hanging out with Maverick Carter one night. Uh you know,
do you know Maverick Maverick Carter is one of the
coolest guys you gotta meet Maverick Carter. He's he uh

(01:08:43):
works with Lebron And it's just this one of the
most brilliant guys you know, I've ever met. And we
were talking about and and also from Ohio and you know,
uh we talked about that experience of growing up and
stuff like that, and talked about spending habits that needed
to be curbed once ah, the ability to and so
it just it all comes from this, really these realizations. Yes,

(01:09:05):
I know, I just had to google. I'm just saying, oh,
you know, yeah, yeah, it's just the coolest I like
to shout out. You have, you know, certain people that
make you feel cool to just like say, yeah, Maverick
Carter is one of those guys you just feel cool
saying like, you gotta meet Maverick.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Yes, yeah, he's incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
When was the turning point for you when your family
or like your people from the crib or whatever, where
they realize like, oh, Ship, you're really making money.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Oh god, it's his number. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
You know what's funny. I was gonna say, I don't know,
because I haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
I did change all it.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
Tuk was one one cousin who I don't know as
a second. Yeah, yeah, that was like immediately, this isn't
gonna work.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
How do you not how do you not feel?

Speaker 8 (01:09:54):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
The survivors were more syndrome, as in, you know, I
mean there's two ways to do it. You can either
alan iverson it and try to take everyone with you,
but the weight of everyone on your shoulders, you know,
suddenly like your cousin's your driver and your yeah three
cousins are you know, or an audience trying to holler

(01:10:15):
at someone.

Speaker 7 (01:10:16):
Yeah, I keep the payroll small, keep it tight. But
because people they work for things that they're good at.
If there's a thing that you're good at, you know,
and it can contribute, then yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Of course. But I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:10:30):
I don't have that because you end up hurting people
more than you than you help them. It really is
the teach a man to Fish philosophy, where it's like
you don't want to hurt people. Obviously, sometimes there's immediate
needs and you hear those and you try and help
when you can, you know, accordingly of something health wise
or something really personal that's happened, and but but just

(01:10:51):
for the sake of it hurts them, you know, they
don't really learn anything they don't learn. Yeah, you become
a crutch and they don't learn anything. They don't try
and and grow. So I talked, I mean a lot
of times. The biggest thing you can give is is
your truth or any type of advice or any type
of like, uh, you know, help you can give in

(01:11:11):
that way, I'm all try and be open to that.
Do they listen, because I like, I mean, people only
want me well, people always want to win the lottery.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Everybody wants to even as a kid.

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
Is gonna sound like bullshit, you know, but growing up poor,
by my biggest fear because my dad played all the time,
My biggest fear was winning the lottery. It was I
I was terrified of the thought of it, of the
thought that we would someday win the lottery, because then
it takes out the need for me. I was afraid
of being written out of my own life and the
need to like drive and figure something out. And I

(01:11:46):
was afraid of that because I was like, oh no,
I want to I make millions. It needs to be
off of work. I was always terrified of it, even
poor with nothing, I was terrified of winning the lottery.
And I'm still I still am. I specials of it,
and I don't trust it, and I don't trust what
it does for you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
I don't trust what.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
It Who is the negro whisper in your head? Because
you've already you've given three or four examples already, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I don't want it easy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
I want to learn the hard lessons so that way
my character can And I'm like, who are you?

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
Like that's what he is?

Speaker 7 (01:12:25):
But I just always felt I always felt that way
because it's not I mean, first of all, like that's
the point of life. The point of life is like
you learning these lessons, figuring things out. That's also the
only way you can't contribute, you know, the only way
you can understand something and help someone else on their
own journey, on their own path. So it's like, why

(01:12:45):
would you write yourself out of that? Like why would
you try to take some easy route that that cheapens
it for you?

Speaker 8 (01:12:51):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
So you it felt like if y'all hit the lottery,
that would take away any lesson that you would have.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
To Yeah, then then what And it didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:12:59):
It didn't seem like it would feel fulfilling in any
way just winning the lottery, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
It just that's never one documentary and I haven't watched it.
It's about like people that like committed themselves after they
killed themselves.

Speaker 9 (01:13:11):
After nobody held onto the money. It's like stories of
like what five or six people? It was a TV
show too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Okay, Well I always wanted to do this personality test,
and now I could do it on my own.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Chill course, love supreme.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
All right, lion, you just won the lottery. Let's let's
let's make it small and say nine point five million dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
I love that you small.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Stop criticizing me.

Speaker 6 (01:13:41):
I'm not stop using them now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Just for lottery. That is a small it is small
ship like the power balls. Yeah, that's like exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:13:49):
I mean, my daddy just want two hundred dollars the
other day and we was happy. But go ahead, a
little money, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Five million?

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Very better boss, bill optimism.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
You won nine point five million dollars. What's the first
thing I do? What is the very first thing you do?
Pay off some bills? Okay, so you're gonna claim that ticket? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:14:25):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Yes, strike one? What would be the first thing you
do first? And I would do.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
Start planning my exit out of the country, like I
talked about Girl and like, well, yeah, you telling her? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I will tell her. I mean she's probably my wife,
So I mean it's if you know, I would learn
like a yeah, hold up, hold up, waiting god damn minute,

(01:14:57):
and I would start plotting and playing. I mean my
bills like I don't really get like I don't carry
that or no shit.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Like that, so it must be nice. I mean that
would be truthfully.

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
I mean, I'm already I'm trying to think of the
family member who I'm giving the ticket to, or like
either either if I find like what I think is
the right case of you know, or or just person
that I could I would give the truthfully.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
I know it sounds like give it away.

Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
Yeah, would you sign it some type of documentary? At
least give me just a.

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
Clean here, trust me, five mili is not I mean
that's not all right. Let's say one hundred and twenty
one million. Yeah, like you're getting just like leave the
country like I'm going, like my life as I once
knew it is.

Speaker 10 (01:15:46):
Over for all right, I'm paid bill even come feel
from your past will come up out of nowhere?

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
Asks that point for feelings like after taxes like nigga,
you buy a couple of fucking rbs and like you know,
some some wing.

Speaker 11 (01:16:00):
Stops and they they're like, yeah, you buy by choice
coup RB. Yeah, White Castles, Roy Rogers, Chase. I put
the money away from my kids, and then I probably
give him some of it away.

Speaker 9 (01:16:18):
It's crazy, you guys, but I'm buying Trader Joe's and
I put him in the hood. And then also I'm
going to just give put a certain a lot of
money for the community, as in my black folks, and
then I'm going to pay my taxes first.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
It's going by. It's going you don't know, Yeah, you
don't pay one hundred million. Yea, You're only getting like
sixty million after tax.

Speaker 10 (01:16:41):
It's going so sorry, gets taking Trader Joe's in the hood.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
I don't I'd buy all the weed, and I don't know.
I don't understand that Steve already has one hundred and
twenty one million.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
I pay my dad back for all the money he's
given one hundred and twenty one million.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
That is strange, because I would think the wisest thing
to do.

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
One is never all right for starters, never let anyone
know you got money, which I believe in that Russell
Simmons way of which you know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Who doesn't think Russell Simmons has money.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
There was a period, there was a period def Champion
Russell was like super bumped, like pre yoga.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Drugs Russell.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
But I would actually find a fall guy, because the
thing is when you claim the ticket, it's going to
be a ceremony. What I would literally find a fall
guy and broker a deal. I'll give you ten million,
you sign this contract, you're going to be the winner.

(01:17:50):
But quietly, I'm gonna take my my whatever, my one ten,
give you the ten million or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Action.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
But I was not in every state. You'd have to
claim it though I forgot which states it is. But
or you can you can remain anonymous New York.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
You have to claim it, okay. So I would not tell.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
I wouldn't tell, So I wouldn't even tell my wife,
or I would tell nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Well, how you.

Speaker 10 (01:18:19):
One hundred million dollars from your wife? How that becomes
that becomes the new Brewsters millions? Your marriage is going
to end. Your marriage is over if you do that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
You know that, right?

Speaker 7 (01:18:30):
And that's an interesting that is interesting the thought that uh,
a woman would leave you for heaven money.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
You were not telling you?

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
Yeah, but no, that's an interesting thought. Yeah, I'm trying
to I would.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Feel like you have nine figures in your possession. No
one is going to be genuine with you. Well right right,
But then there's some people like why is a great example,
like lie is the I'm gonna treat you like an
asshole to let you know that I don't think you

(01:19:12):
but I love you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:13):
Anyway, one I would tell shen't be the only one
I would tell.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
I'm like, listen, like mama, my mama. Would I tell
my mom? I wouldn't see because.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
Then your mom I would just like other people, you know,
if I told my mom and that you gotta protect
your mind.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
You got to protect your mom. Just give me that
you've had this conversation before.

Speaker 9 (01:19:34):
What you got to do is roll up on Sally
May and just throw that ship and they face and say,
fuck you take this hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
I'm sorry. I got student loans, but.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
That anyway you're so you don't know about okay, because
they really up paid off many a student loans.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
Okay is eighty thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
If you feel no, I'm done paying student loans. That's
I'm done anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:19:59):
That was get here, Where are.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
You going with this? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
No, no, what he mentioned about about lottery tickets and
giving it away and that sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
So I was just curious. There was like a.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
So we're not bad for cashing in, We're just but
you're saying we shouldn't tell people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
I don't think you should tell a soul and you
should find someone to claim it. And then everybody's gonna
be wondering if I'm selling drugs when I show up
with my car.

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
If you're not, if you're not, I think if you're not,
if you're not married, I would I would agree with that,
But I think if you can't share it with you,
if you can't share with your wife, and the nigga
like why are you?

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Like why are you married? You gotta protect her because
I feel like no one exist. I think y'all gotta
protect each other like y'all can't do in your life.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Will keep a secret that my significant other has one
hundred and fifty million on standby? They're gonna buy some
sort of bag or some pair three thousand dollars shoes
or some ring that doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Give it away, like that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Now, if you just buy like a fleet of Tesla's ship,
then yeah, you're going to jail. You're gonna get wrong.
But like a new bag or new whatever. I mean,
you know, like you know, we make pretty decent money,
like niggas can.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Buy cereal like give it away, you know what I mean? Niggas.
I don't know if you title each all, so can
we officially call this one of the niggas can buy question?
I can't wait to share that one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Bill and Steve the name of this episode Steve don't ship, Yeah,
don't please.

Speaker 5 (01:21:50):
But I wasn't like when you go back to the
crib man, Like when you go back, can you walk
through Hans Mall and just still be Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Sunglasses.

Speaker 7 (01:21:58):
I'm usually just I'm at home. I have four nieces
and a nephew and I'm like just them. I'm just
like playing with them. Like that's usually what I go.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
We go, uh, we go to Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:22:12):
There's this Uh it's called Japanese American I have to prepresent. Yeah, yeah,
because it's not just learning from living in LA for years.
It is not a Japanese experience by any stretch of
the imagination.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
But Mexicans come out.

Speaker 9 (01:22:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:22:31):
They made Actually, that's where I saw ninth. That's why
I actually met ninth for the first time. We shared
a table at a at a bachi restaurant like that.
You may get me there. I'll go like there, you know,
but then like I just stay in and eat, you know,
play with my nieces and nephews.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
You a mountain chicken.

Speaker 7 (01:22:50):
Every now and then. Every now and then I do
like we had to stop. It's great, it's great, it's fantastic.
Every now and then I'll go out. I'll go out there,
take fifty two North fifty two.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
That sounds awesome, chicken chick.

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
It's like actually, because you're going towards us a black mountains,
a fifty two, like you're going.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Yeah, like pilot Mountains. Yeah. Yeah. Usually I'm just like
like laying in my mom's lap. Folks are still in
They're still there. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 7 (01:23:22):
That's only the only place, the only place I'm not
thinking about emails is just like laying my mom's just
turned into a child. I was like, all right, and
she's like annoyed by, like like move, I get out
of my cry.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Okay. That's so that's still there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
They're still living there, that's still there, and they still like,
have you done the celebrity I'm buy my mama house
thing yet?

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Or have you is that is stopping me? She's very.

Speaker 7 (01:23:55):
She's like me, I get it. She's like me as well,
and like you know, once drawl on. They're a very
independent family. Who but I do I with that said,
all of all of those things, I just forced it
on it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
It was just like, just like cautious. Yeah, they're always
that false minding.

Speaker 8 (01:24:14):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
No, it's just like it's like, Okay, what year is this?
What your car is this? You want to go? Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Well, I thank you very much for coming through on
the clutch. No, man, thank you special serial episode.

Speaker 6 (01:24:30):
It looks so different.

Speaker 7 (01:24:32):
Yeah, I know, listen, I'm gonna go and uh you know, yeah,
has some mixes that he wants me to, wants me
to check out something.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
You'll do that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:42):
But it's nice to stop buying between sessions, all.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Right, because you got eminem right after the eminem is
right after that exactly whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
You know, the life of Rick rub and you guys
never boy oh boy, yeah man, Yeah, it's gotta keep you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
I clearly never met Rick. I can't even jump into
you literally just nailed down. Yeah, you nailed it. Trust
me on this. So when the season starts, win.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
May thirty first first we will be there front.

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
And are you still you're still doing like clubs and
stuff and you still like just working stuff out.

Speaker 7 (01:25:18):
I haven't been on the road in a while. Just
I've been working on the show and then jumping to
some features. I'll mostly just be in New York. Uh,
probably the summer between here and New York. Uh, and
I'll jump in to the cellar and you know, trying
to be a comedian again. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
So like if you came to like like Charlie Good
Nights and Raley, that would you play that kind of maybe?

Speaker 7 (01:25:42):
Yeah, I haven't. I never do stand up enough. We're
talking about going home, Like, I don't do stand up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
I just I just lay low.

Speaker 7 (01:25:49):
I just like if I'm in North Carolina, I'm like
eating bow Jangles Man.

Speaker 9 (01:25:54):
Just what.

Speaker 7 (01:25:57):
Is there?

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Yeahs I ride for both Jangles and I'm technically a vegan.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
Yeah it takes different just like Popeyes is just a biscus.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
No, what do you think? Less pop It's not Jingles.
It's on that level. It's on that level. It's on
that level.

Speaker 7 (01:26:16):
Yeah, it's on that level, either of them on a
good day, on a good day, you know what I mean.
It's like you want to weigh in. It's like it's
like watching Steph Curry and Lebron play each other there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
This is like this the last time you've been.

Speaker 6 (01:26:30):
I just went to Pop like two weeks ago, and
the biscuits.

Speaker 7 (01:26:32):
Was like flatter and it just no, no, no, you request.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
We're riding for Jangles though not.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
Jangles around here, So.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
I think both Jangles didn't make it out of this.
I think they got one like Maryland somewhere.

Speaker 7 (01:26:47):
Yeah, I think it doesn't go past Texas or something.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
I think that's yeah, Yeah, they had one a whole
Chicken episode. We do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Yeah, I'm gonna go the chicken for like maybe a month,
go back to chicken. Just if you go back Chicken out.
Think you're gonna baby to go back.

Speaker 7 (01:27:02):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
You are so real with that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:07):
I was vegetarian for like closer two years and beef
poor all that. I gave no ships about that yard
Bird homie. Yeah, like I'm back to it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Last night.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
At last night, I drove in front of Roscoe. Come on,
it's Saturday, come on, and I'm just like you chicken
tears because.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
That's yeah, But you vegan, do you do like the
fake uh? Because that's what I can't. But I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:27:43):
I like, you know, veggies or whatever. I like going
across the roads. But where I stop is when it's like,
these are meatballs and if you don't lie to them
in but if you don't, if you're true blue to it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
And once half the sugar consume leaves you, you know,
like when you're going to die whatever. And then you
when you're not eating right and you taste the diet
coke or whatever, it tastes like nasty. But once you
really adjust your thing, you're like, oh, this tastes like
regular because you brought your sugar down.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
I'm riding for Impossible Burgers to the day the plant Burgers. Yes,
if you tried an impossible burger, is that it does?
MoMA in New York, Yes, the New And and Crossroads
has it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I My life goal is to invest maybe get half
percent of stock and Impossible Burgers.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
That will be my winning linery. And it's total plant based.
It's totally plant it's total plant based. Uh, It's I mean,
they just their their secret was that they discovered that
blood is the element that has us addicted to meat.
So they have a blood formula. Yeah, the blood formula
is beats olive.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Will they have a blood formula inside of the impossible
burger and it taste Did.

Speaker 7 (01:29:07):
You just tell me that we're all vampires?

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:29:10):
It was like we're all discovering that with vampires, just like,
oh wait, so we are.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Bill Gates invested in this company.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
The scientists did a study for like seven years and
discovered that the element because they wanted to know, like
why does veggie food taste crappy and hamburgers taste so delicious?
And once the study was that there's no blood element
in there that has us addicted it.

Speaker 7 (01:29:39):
But you know what gets me again, it's like things
were like when you start putting burger on it. I
wish they didn't call it. But if they called it
anything else, impossible patty of of science. Even if I
called it a science patty, I'm like, Okay, I'll try it,
because you know, I just there's a lot of eying me.
When it's just vegan hot dog, I'm like, fuck you,

(01:30:02):
I know what a hot dog?

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:30:07):
Like that's the thing is like I can't fuck with
the vegans because it's like they are I mean two things. One,
it kind of feels like a colt. It kind of
just feel like branch Davidians that don't eat cheese.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
So it's like that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:19):
But then it's the other part is like so part
so much of veganism is predicated on oh, we have
stuff that tastes just like this, like nigga, I can
just go get.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
You to a non vegan that's not good to vegan.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
But I feel like if you like, okay, if it
was a religion right, and if you were like, okay,
I am Islam, right, just for his example, you say
I'm Islam, but my Islam is just like Christianity, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:30:45):
You're like, no, no, my friend, could my friend you
have to put it the best he said, uh, basically
that it would be It's as absurd to a meat
eater to have like a like fake meat, you know,
as if you're vegan and someone gave you a carrot
made of beef.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
It's the same thing. It's just like how dare you?

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Yes, it's it's it's Jedi mind tricking yourself it's can
we just in the show like that?

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
Margaret? Yeah, on that note, R and B have of fun,
Tikeolow and uh sloppy Margaret. Shout out to the Quoss
Bill and I'm bade Bill and Sugar Steve and our
guest Carmichael. Thank you very much. This is funny science

(01:31:46):
patty science patties.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Uh yes, I'm gonna get a few science patties. This
is quest Love, quest Love Supreme. We will see you
on the next go round.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
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