QLS Classic: Robin Thede

Writer, comedian and late-night host Robin Thede talks about her life in front of and behind the camera, how Wyatt Cenac owes his puppetry skills to her and everything you need to know about her show: The Rundown.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of Course, Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio.
This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora.
What up, y'all, It's live from quest Love Supreme. And
on this classic episode, we're taking you back to November
twenty nine, seventeen for our first conversation with our good
friend Robin Thady. Now this is before she was a

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big time show runner. Shout outs to a Black Lady
sketch show. This is when the writer, comedian and late
night hosts talks about her life in front of and
behind the camera. Her puppetry skills are hung and everything
you need to know about her past show, The Rundown.
Oh and if you enjoy this episode, you've got to
hear when she came to join us on this year's

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Roots Picnic stage from June two. Oh yeah, that's a
good one too. It's always fun with our good friend Robin.
So enjoy suprema subprema role, called subprema subprema role, called

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subprema subprema role, called suprema so suprema role. She don't
smoke beats. Yeah, she owned some c d s. Yeah
she's been to d C. Yeah, phone home with et
hungry feed me fights me like Michael Jackson, he's tired.

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I see my billy g e my key Yeah, Phil,
please leave me, y'all tired of me? Yeah, I'm feeling needy. Yeah,
I'm down with O peep Yeah. Uh, I'll skip to
the letter t E. Yeah, ladies and gentleman. It's Rabbit

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feedy sub Frema ro Suprema roll carmon sugar. Yeah, my
lives dream Yeah except that one night. Yeah to record
five Summa Frema roll call steals my name. Yeah, not

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about arena, Yeah, trying not to screw up. Yeah, another
Suprema Roma Frema roll call, Frema sub Frema roll call,
Hey Bill, Yeah, and I'm raging mad yeah about angry
white ladies. Yeah. And like it's Frema road car, soa

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Frema roll car. Yeah, and it's going to be a
classic yeah, Robin De Yeah, that's that girl magic. Oh
Suma Suprema road call, Sma sum roll call. Yeah. I'm
in my groove Yeah, and I don't dance ye make

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money move rod Suprima Suprema Road, Suprema Suprema Road called
Suprema Suprema rogue. That was like the hell, yeah, I

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did not know so many things rhymed with my name.
It was dope. Yes, it's because we really just wanted to,
you know, reiterate that it is thet Yes, I wanted
to be I know, yeah, we were all having I know,
halfway through I almost felt like I was in church. Yeah, indeed,

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it was like, it's very good. I hope you're a believer. Now,
don't be needy. I forgot that Jeff tweeting, I forgot
to shout out Jeff Tweetie beat he was brilliant. Michael Jackson,
here come on, ladies and gentlemen, our guest today is

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a writer, comedian, actress, director, producer, author, chef boxer. She's
the current presidents. Exactly, you're the You're the president of
the United States. Right now, I'm declaring that you're the
former showrunner. What's happening now? It was my crown? What's

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going on? Yes, you've been a butcher, baker, cancel, stipmaker, maker,
breaker and title um. She is currently breaking new ground
on BT's weekly news program called The Comedy Program. Okay, well,
based on the news. Well, it's just I don't want

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people to think that I'm actually reporting the news because
I'll be very good for you. But I assure you
that the only way to digest the news in two
thousand and seventeen is through comedy, so that is true.
It's a very informative show. So I see it. I mean,
you're the you're the new ed. Uh who was? Can
you please say that the black John Stewart and said, yeah,

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he was not. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to Steward.
I take that back, Trevor now probably wants to be
called or the vaginal John Stewart. I don't know anywhere
this show is going to be. Can Yes, I think

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you're the most of the show. No, I am not
the host of the show, please please, I just wanted
to be casual amongst six brands, you know. So thank
you Robin for doing this. Thank you. You know what.
You guys are over here killing it as always you
you're killing it as well. Thank you. You know. Listen,
I'm two episodes in and I feel like I've pretty

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much mastered the craft. And actually, by the time this
air is I'll be like a good like five deep.
So I would have collected all the Emmy's, all the hoodies,
all the right Yeah, so pretty much I'm on top
of the world. Yeah, it's great, that's good. Um. Wait,
let's visit to a time when you were in the

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bottom of the world. Oh oh god, now it gets
I don't want to to the beginning episodes, you know what,
I know, everybody goes back to the beginning, like no
one cares about the beginning. Let's talk abou quarters at

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the quarter. Do you know the I not personally, but
I've heard tale of course. No. But I have to
say even when I met you, and this is the
weird thing, like this is the one super can't I
hope to have a very super candid episode of Quesse
Love Supreme because I know Robin well well, not like biblically,

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but I mean, yes, she's she's my pal, so you know,
but I have to say that even when you told
me that back when we first met, that you were
born in Iowa, it's weird. Um. Yeah, I will say
that of the six black women that I do know

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from Iowa, you know you're you're the only one that's
not in a certain industry farm because that corn porn,

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it corn porn, I got you. I was sued out
the most alarming rate of black porno actresses and alone.
But but here's the thing that would like a black
porn and no with with like mensa level intelligence, right,

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and it's it's crazy to me. I'm glad you avoided. Well,
first of all, that's rude that you're assuming I'm not
also doing that in my spirit time. You don't know
what I'm capable of. Um No, yeah, I did not
know that statistic. Usually people go there's black people in
Iowa when they find out that I'm from and I'm like, no,
I left, there's no more. Um yeah, no, my mother

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is actually you know this, My mother's a state representative.
She was the first black woman to ever be elected
to her district. So yeah, black people still make it moves.
Um you know? Sorry doing I think? So? Are there
a lot of first in your family? Because you already
you're like eighteen first just first right now? Yeah? More
than that? Yeah, well, what are the first first showrunner

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or the first? Yeah, head writer, black female head writer
of the Late night show. I was the first black female,
uh to be the head writer. At the Correspondence dinner,
I can't wait to talk yea, I did not know that. Yeah,
I was the first. I think I think we know,
we haven't confirmed this, but I think I was the
first black woman to be the head writer of a
daytime show and a nighttime show and a nightly comments

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your daytime show, I was not the same time, but
I was Queen Latifa's head right, Amazingly, I only do
things at first. She used to work for a show
that formally had the at q LS. Yeah, so true.
But because the show was dormant, I know that's fine.
They don't need it. This this, this pays to be
friends with busines a Twitter. I just said, hey, guys,

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the show doesn't exist in working Damn you got them
to delete their old Twitter account. Uh no, our I
non work. Yeah, your powerful quest love you are so okay.
So you grew up in a political family. Yeah, I did,
And it was interesting because my dad was actually a Republican.

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My dad is white. My mom was black from the
West Side of Chicago. My dad's white from a farm
in Iowa. He met my mother in the seventies. She
had a big gass afro. First day at college, he said,
I want her. She's in college in Iowa. Yeah. They
she went to college in Iowa from Chicago. Uh and
uh they met and been married forty years. Yeah, they're

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still best friends. What his parents? What his parents? What parents?
I know, it's crazy, it's crazy. It's had a very
unrealistic standard for me. Yeah, I was, um, this is
I thought this was supposed to be forever. Like every
first boyfriend I had, I was like, we're gonna be
together forever and they were like, I don't even know
your last name. Um, but yeah, so they met, uh

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and and yeah they're still together. But yeah, what what
was the question about Ian? Yeah? None, but um yeah.
So my family was always political. My dad was a
Republican growing up, and then by the time George Bush
Junior came in, he had came over to the right.
I was going to say, was or okay, so he's

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now yes, now he's everybody's on the same team still
yeah yeah yeah, Like he just saw Trump and was like, hey, yeah,
let's do this. No, No, he's like the he talks
the most about Trump, like yeah, because he's like, this
is not the way it's supposed to be. Because I
think I said this the other day to a group.
I was like, I think white people are now like, um,

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you know, like they look at Trump and they're like Hey, hey,
I don't want to be associated with that. You know,
it's like how all black people are like, hey, don't
you know, don't lump us all together. We're not the same.
But now I think white people are starting to feel
like that because you can't tell a Trump supporter when
they're white from you know, from a non Trump supporter. Um.
So yeah, so it's good, it's good. My dad, um
it's dope. He has a family foot of black women.

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I have two sisters, so it's just nothing, but black
ladies in the family are in the middle. Okay, yeah,
so I'm the annoying. Yes, I was tapped. Why where
you are right now? I'm sure, I think so. Like
I'm a Leo. I'm a middle child, and my father
forced me into comedy very early on. He named me

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after Robin Williams. I found out after Robin Williams died,
and I didn't know that. But I was always funny
and weird and cookie and like I would always just
imitate we you know, we didn't have cable, so I
used to always just you know, imitate like the news
and like, you know, whatever sitcoms wrong. Um so they
always just thought I was weird. I just sit in
a dark room and mimic everything I saw on television.

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And then at night my dad, like on the weekends,
he would let me watch like Carolines. Used to have
Carolines on. Brobi used to have a TV show where
they would have like comedians on. It was like a
two in the morning on NBC local affiliates. This would play.
And then we stole cable. We lived in a trailer park.
My dad Jerry rigged a cable from the trailer two
doors down and wired it over the middle trailer to

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ours so we could get cable to watch thriller, and
so we could watch He got it the first time
to get Thriller, and then he duc taped it. So
we kept it for a little while until somebody cut it.
But the other thing I remember watching, I know this
is crazy. How did somebody, someone as in the cable
company or someone realized no, like the neighbor we were

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stealing it from was like stop stealing our ship, you know.
So so you know trailer Parker is wrong. People were
not nice to each other, not neighborly but um but
so special people but no so so so we got
it to watch the Thriller and that was dope. And
I hid behind my Bible watching Thriller because I was scared,
and I thought that I was little. I was like two,

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I was like tiny, So yeah, it was scary ship.
So but I remember that, and then I remember later
on when we had stole cable a second time that
we had, he used to let me watch what was
the show with Robin Williams and Whoopy Goldberg. It was
the first time I ever saw so that was the
first time I had ever seen a black woman telling jokes,

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and I was like, yo, what is this? So you
didn't see the first stand of the Broadway when she played? Then,
I don't think I was damn Rob. I mean, I
don't think I watched you. I don't think we're the same. Sorry, Okay, yeah,
I don't think. So probably see where you in high

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school in the nineties or no, I'm not gonna watch that.
It wasn't even live in the nineties, but no, so
so so I saw her, and then he let me
watch They showed her One woman Show on PBS as
like an anniversary special over in order, and that's the
first time I saw it, and I was just blown

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away by this woman like absolutely blown away, and then
my dad like, let me stay up and watch I
remember we could stay up and watch SNL until the
until weekend update came on. Then we had to go
to sleep, so we got to watch you know halfway through.
Is that a time thing or the content? It was
a time thing for them. It was just like, okay,
that means at whatever time in the Midwest, I think
it was around midnight we could go to sleep because

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I had to go to church or something or yeah. Yeah,
we were in church three days a week with churches
A no, no, we were just like so because we
were we were in the perform like the only way
we get performing arts was through church programs. So we
were in the acting group. And like the puppet group.

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Oh that's a whole other thing about the puppet group.
I didn't have the mind wait you no, no, not me,
but I think you didn't. You just know when I
was in the church band, can you explain the puppet group.
So I was in when I was so thirteen to

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like thirteen, fourteen fifteen. Every summer we were two of
the country with this Christian puppet group called King's Kids, right,
and my sister and I this is it's even better.
So we were like Jim Henson school trained, like I'm
still a professional puppeteer, by the way, I helped Wyatt's
and a perfect his puppeteering skills and don't let him
tell you any different. Um so we uh so we

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went on the road for three summers and we got
really good. But my sister and I were the only
black people in the group, and so we had to
do all the voices and the use all the black puppets.
Oh god, I don't remember. I honestly don't remember. I
did a bunch of them. You know, you just hear
me slip into weird. I don't know, Jesus, I don't know.

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But some of them were just like regular little girls.
And then some of them were like weird because they
were like human looking puppets. They weren't all animals but
a hand puppets. Yeah, handpuppets. I can't do it this,
God dammit, this podcast. I would show you what you
have to imagine. Yeah, so here, wait, can I teach
you guys a trick that won't help the home audience
at all. Everybody hold up your hand. Okay, we'll physically

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describe it. Okay, so hold up your hand like this
hand so everybody's holding up their hand like so basically okay,
take pictures. Great, So basically everybody at home and within
the distance of my voice. Um, so think about when
you hold up your hand to talk like a puppet. Right,
so your thumb is on the bottom, your hand is
flat on top. Now just say hi, how are you?
Everybody at home do this to say hi? How are you?
Move your hand like a puppet? Would you all did

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it wrong? Okay? So you all failed? All right? So
the professional trick is to only move your bottom, only
move your thumb. So keep your hand flat and then
say hi, how are you? How are you? But move
it down, don't move it up? Go hi? Nope, opposite,
move your thumb down. Hi, Hi Hi. That's how. That's

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how a mouth works. And if you want to sing,
you could do that. That's advantage. But anyway, at home,
try this, keep it top of your hand flat even
right now, keep this wet. Only moved the thumb, doing
the best job anyway. Yeah, wait, can we just spend

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about one minute doing this in silence audience? Right now? Yeah,
that's it's very hard. It took me years to master.
So just move this and that looks real. Wow, that
is awesome to Instagram page for video. Yeah, school right
is an art to it. It looks very easy. It's not.

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I can also use my other hand to make the
hands and legs moving. We went to we went through training.
Know that, Jim Henson school teachers. We went through actual
perfect I'm actually a professional, like certified puppeteer. You're not
trying to make it to the children's television workshop. Did
you not have those golds like Fraco Rock? Wait, they

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certify puppeteers, dude, they started even even when Kevin first
came degree in it, even when he came to the
Tonight show. I mean he was saying that, you know,
to getting Jim Hinton's I mean, it's the It's the
Marionette equivalent of going to George Lucas's school graduation ceremony.

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So I only have like a certification. I don't have,
like the whole degree. Is that expensive? I don't remember.
You didn't get a master's in moving your What is
it you're gonna use that one day? You're gonna thank me?
What is it grant you? Like if you wanted to
audition for Avenue Q or I have no idea. I
don't think any besides because I can't sing either, so

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they'd be like, how could you leave? I don't know.
I don't know. Actually Avenue Que, it would probably be
helpful if I could actually sing, But um, I would
think that they actually go through puppet training. I have
to say that. Wait, this is weird. I'm paid Bill,
I'm about to tell the story of your other job
forgiving that you actually worked for it. I was like, wait,

(19:55):
I got this, you do? Am I not wrong? I mean?
Am I correct? He is a Joe proposal Sesame Street
right now. Whenever I watched them, they it's a yeah,
well we're still talking with the I'm sorry podcast listeners,
just fast forward this part. I don't know, just see
us in three minutes. Tray. Yeah, you guys have chapters

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on these are you on? Are your no Sesame Street?
You know I'm gonna get lost about to rabbit hole?
So on Sesame Street? Um, are your puppet tears and
well just puppet tears? Muppet tears? Are they licensed or no?
But it's the same, like fifteen dudes that do like

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dudes and ladies that do Sesame Street and the Muppets
and mostly other other things are the same fifteen or
twenty people. It is a mafia for sure, and they're
like eighty because once you're in, you're in, you know,
like the guy who plays um uh Grover also does
Miss Piggy and Animal, and then the guy who does
the Sweetish Chefs Hey Ends is also a cookie Monster
still stuff like that. Now they're all kind of cross breeze.

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So what happens if all three of his characters are
in the same sketch? They throw their voice around and
they were prerecorded. It's really cool to watch. They're fantastic.
Are there any out takes? Any outtake uh footage of them,
like just cursings? Ye, I've seen him do it. We
had them on but yeah, they definitely do it. Yes, Sorry,
I don't want to get him in trouble. Listeners listeners

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that we're also like silent talking to each other, like
the question. But I'm also like, they would just come
do it for you. I haven't they been on the show.
Come to the set whenever that I will. Yeah, well, okay,
when I do that thing that thing second? Uh, so

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you would travel at what part like Bible belts or like, yeah,
a lot of Bible belt We would take a van
and we would all pile in it and it said
King's Kids on the side. How many of you, like
fourteen of us? It was a lot like fourteen ten
or fourteen. And then the funny thing is so one year.
So like the first year was like we drove out

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to California and did like West coast like you know,
but like like normal places, right, and then the second year,
you know, first year we did the Midwest, so like St. Louis, Chicago,
that kind of second year, we drove out to California,
did some stuff like in Orange County. It was fine.
Thirty year, They're like, we're going to Appalachia. However, you
said they played black people girls, and so we were

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like and back then I was wearing a big afrow,
like my hair was you know, big, you know, and
and we were like, oh okay, um. My mom was like,
how's this gonna work? And they were like, so what
we'll do is we'll just go into the church's first
and make sure that they're cool we're doing and like,
in hindsight, my sister and I was like, this is crazy,
Like there was a church where they had to pull

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up and go in and talk to them before we
came in, and they were not okay with us performing,
and we canceled the performance. And it was those I
don't know if you've ever been in like Kentucky coal
country and all that Virginia. So you go on these
switchback roads where there's only one lane and so the
cold trucks are coming down and you have to pull
over when they come around, like it was some ship
I don't ever want to see again in my life.

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And the whole time it just sounded like din No,
the roots play a lot in Kentucky, right. Actually, we
I was part of a tour like that where um
the day that we got our official UH offer for

(23:38):
a record deal hub and I snuck out of the
church tour that we were on very similar to this
where we were. We were in obal in Kansas, like
in the corn fields, Like when I go to sleep,
I'd hear like every night going to sleep, Like it
was that sort of thing where you're just in the

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middle of America and you don't know what you're going
to be burning to across the next day. So it
was like we got a record deal, and like he
and I like snuck out of that and went to
the pay phone to the seven eleven and called the
gap and you know, I caught a plane at six

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in the morning, like we we went a wall. They
were probably still now they saw you on foul and
they were like, God, damn it. I'm just curious about
those church outings and whatnot. Why, I mean, how was

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it a repressive atmosphere or no, it wasn't at the time.
I think, Um, for me, it was all we knew
and the people were very kind and very still really
good family friends, you know. I mean it was um
there and oh yea yeah, yeah that happened in college.
Oh just about like Jesus sorry, yeah yeah yeah, with

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with the church for sure. I think at a certain
point I just saw, you know, you wake up to hypocrisy.
That happens in anything, right, but for church. Hap. I
woke up to hip hop and I was like, get
out the church. Um no, I I yeah. I think
once I got older, I got to college, I was like, Okay,
I don't need to be in the church this much.
I mean even I think later in high school, but um,

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you know, my mom grew up Catholic, my dad grew
up Lutheran. Like, they just had a very strong religious background,
and but they also taught us that while we have this,
once we became adults, they were like, now the choice
is yours. We've taught you all the things that we know,
but you know, go forth and make your own decisions.
So for me, I think I just don't like that.
I feel like there's a lot of hypocrisy in the church,

(25:53):
like in religion, and I think that, you know whatever,
there's weird things in the Bible, you know what I mean,
There's just weird ship. So I just feel like was
guilt ever part of it? Like one once my church
found out I was doing music, right, you know, it's
sort of like, so mirror you uplifting the Lord in
your work? Or is it just like what I see

(26:13):
you on? Yeah? Then I just stopped coming to church because,
you know, I think once people heard me Carson in comedy,
they were like, well, she's lost and if she comes back,
then fine, we'll see her on Easter. I don't know,
and I don't know. I don't know. I never had
that guilt really. Also, I left home and went to
Chicago and then I went to Northwestern Second City, like
I was gone. You know, there was nobody to like

(26:35):
follow me and be like you didn't walk into college
like that church girl. I'm holding onto this. No, no, no, no, no,
that's yeah. So we went year. Did you go to Northwestern?
I will not tell you that, but it wasn't that
long ago. Just had this conversation. Well, no, because I
generally wanted to know, like if we ever played her
college or that sort of thing you're trying to find

(26:56):
out younger. Wait, I've talked to you about this. It
was everything. It was in the two thousands. Oh sorry,
I didn understand. I see what you're doing. I will
tell this story, and I saw before I met you,
I had seen y'all fourteen times, fourteen times, two of

(27:18):
which I think we're at Northwestern. Um, I remember, do
you remember this story? Do you remember this night you
were y'all were playing? But uh, oh god, I want
my freaking his name not Cameron. It's a rapper with
the scene name and he raps in here for a
long time. Hannabis Canada, Thank you Jesus. There's a big difference.

(27:43):
I was new. I was about to say the wrong name,
so cannabis was whatever, y'all and this dude freestyle forty
five minutes. Do you remember this was what he would do?
Because I never saw on before in concert we've done.
It was so long and so obviously this was like
nine when that didn't she just tell you it was no,
it wasn't it was later than that. Well, it was

(28:05):
later that when I saw it. Okay, well no, no, yeah, okay,
but I remember I would have told you. I was like, actually,
that's not right. We can edit. Also, it was like,
n it's fine, it's fine now they know I'm eightie,
thanks a lot, Sorry for thanks a mayor? Wait, am
I supposed to call you? Quest? What am I supposed
to call you? On this? We know each other? Can

(28:28):
I tell you? It is so weird to talk about
you because people are always like because I'm always like
my friend of me or did something something, and they're like, oh,
is he in the business? And I was like, it's
a quest love, Like I don't know how to like
do you know what I mean? Like I tried not
to say your stage name because it's it's just yes,
and you can't just be like so couss love and

(28:49):
yes it's such an annoying goddamn name drops the same
thing I called Queen Jana and people are like, oh,
you think you're cool, and I'm like, no, I just
don't call her queen because whenever I talk about Marshal yes,
then it's like, oh, you think he's a cool you
get the car mark. No you can't call him eminem.
Why don't you say m though that is a little extra?
Why not just say him because he makes you. I

(29:10):
hate when people call correct this name. Yeah, but it
sounds like im whenever I hear is right, thank you,
thank you. Anyway, we were talking about something else before
I got up onto this tangent, but go ahead, just
when you first just oh yeah, oh yeah canab so yeah,

(29:33):
thank you to ask you for something. So cannabis was rhyming,
and for the first five minutes we're like, Yo, this
dude's killing it. He's really free sounded. He says she
got a pro shirt on and she got a shot off,
crazy and correct like Jesus Christ, right thirty eight minutes

(29:57):
and we're like, this one be a world record in
history right now forty five minutes and the crowd was like,
but bring out the road and then y'all came out
and ripped it. Yeah, it was great. I appreciate that.
I saw y'all everywhere. Man, I saw you in Chicago,
bunch um. I think y'all. Did y'all come to Iowa?

(30:21):
You had to walk back in those days. I know,
Iowa has probably the the maybe the fourth best record
shopping experience I've every head. Oh is that right? Yeah,
because usually like those places that no one goes to
just clean instantly. Yeah, So what else do you go

(30:41):
to Iowa for corn and porn? Oh? No, you don't
have to go there for the porn. It was rhyming
with corn. Yeah, you don't really go to Iowa for mon. Well,
there's a lovely place to grow up, sheltered from reality.
But it's very affordable. I will say that really. Well,
it's like a three bedroom house, it's like a one.

(31:02):
It's like going to North Carolina. Yeah, you can easily
get a three bedroom house for like a hundred and
eighty thousand dollars easily, and like a nice like a
brand new like new ship. Yeah, like truth be told.
You know. Uh, the towns that you have least expectations
for are probably just some of the best places to
visit the worst weather because then you got hurricanes, you know,

(31:23):
and I know it's not real tornadoes, tornadoes, yes, that
is tornadoes and cold. That's okay, I know what you
mean in my head. But listen, climate change is real.
It might be some goddamn hurricanes. So second, what drove
you to Chicago? The fact that you got accepted to

(31:46):
my Chevy Lumina literally to Chicago comedian. But I mean, like, no,
that's just the truth. I wanted to go to Uh.
I wanted to go straight to l A out of
high school. And my parents were like, please, don't, you
will do porn, which now is why I see why
you had that connection an island. Uh. They were scared.
They were scared. Yes, So so you know, every summer

(32:12):
I went to Chicago because that's where my family was
on my mom's whole side lived, so I was familiar
with the city. And I was like, they were like,
don't They said, they had just asked me two things.
Don't go straight to l A because they knew I
wanted to be comedian, actress, right or whatever. But they said,
don't go straight to l A. Get a college education.
And also, um, don't ask us for anybody. So I

(32:35):
got into Northwestern and I said, and they were like, please,
don't get a degree in theater. You are you're already funny.
Get a real degree, which is rude, right. But so
I got a degree in journalism. I went to like,
Northwestern has the best journalism school. They only let in
like a hundred and eighty people year. I got in,
um and uh. And then I got my degree. And
then I got scouted by Second City because I was
running an improv and sketch group there for years and

(32:56):
they saw it. They heard about it. The sketch group
out the box and it's still going on to this day,
seventy five years later. Um and so I, so I
went to Second City. That gave me a full scholarship.
Um to go to Second City, graduated the Conservatory, went
straight to l A. And Uh. You know, did you
have dreams of seeing Steve Higgins or Lauren coming down door?

(33:23):
Because yeah, of course listeners. UM a lot of people
that you see on s n L Saturday Night Live. Um,
they'll either be poach from one of three places. Either
the groundlings in l A. Is there groundlings in New York?
Groundlings the home of groundlings is New York groundlings. I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I was thinking UCB. Right, there is no

(33:45):
groundlings in New York, Okay, so yeah, U c be
here groundlings in L A second was a groundling, yes,
my Meliss McCarthy, A bunch of them around, right. And
then I think New York is uc be established by
the team Second City of Chicago, right and then last
Second City. So those three, those are the three comedy

(34:06):
universities that will guarantee you maybe half an audition at
Saturday Night Live. So did you yes? That was the goal.
It happened, absolutely, that was the goal for sure. And um,
and I was there with a bunch of people who
are now famous and they were my mentors, so Keegan

(34:27):
Michael Key was leaving Second City to go do Mad TV,
and now I fucking dated myself, goddamnit. Um but I
was also twelve anyway, um uh and a bunch of
great folks. So so uh when I came up, Uh,
there was kind of a new crop coming through and
everybody was like, oh, this is gonna be the next

(34:48):
class that goes to SNL, Like your class is going
to be the next class. Um. That did not happen,
and I didn't even get close to an audition. I
just wasn't in the right cycle or whatever, or back
then that laf wasn't looking for black ladies. Was about
to say who was the black lady this season because
there wasn't. It was Ellen Claghorn, and then it was
Leslie Jones, like there was with my in the middle. Um,
that's literally it. Uh, but there was one more Uh

(35:12):
what's her face? Who passed away sadly? But um years
ago what was her name? Yes? Thank you? Yeah, I
remember a joke on the power like get your baby
some cool lights, or she did a joke about cool cigarettes.
Did she baby smoking? Yeah? She wasn't on very long,
but she was funny as shit. But anyway, so so yeah,
so it never happened. I went to l A. It

(35:33):
took many, many years. I didn't audition for Lauren until
two thousand thirteen. Whoa that long time. But I was
on other sketch shows. I was on you know Jamie Fox,
Savian Crocodile was um a bunch of stuff. They never
saw the light of day. I did a sketch show
with Mike Eabbs for Comedy Central. They never saw the world. Uh,
you know, I did a lot of sketch stuff. I

(35:54):
wrote for a lot of stand ups. I toured the
country with him, I wrote for sitcoms. But he minded
me that I too was on a failed pilot that
almost didn't make it. Uh, there was going to be
a Black Saturday. I only remember because this is how
we wrote break You Off for Phrenology. Uh. Who is

(36:17):
the the black comedy promoter? He did the Kings of Comedy.
Walter Latham, Yes, Walter Walter, Yes, not with him. No,
it's not him, though, it's not him. I know exactly
who it is, and I am blanking. Somebody google it,
got to look it up. No, I know who it is,
and that's not everybody, not Charles King or nothing. No

(36:44):
hold on Walter Latham. Wa I said it? Wait he connected? No,
it's m's kay. But once the once the King of comedies, uh,
once the King of comedy kind of blew up. Then
Walter decided to do uh, to shoot a pilot. Um,

(37:08):
he wanted to do a Black s and now and
it was like Earthquake and the other seven or eight
other heavyweights that I'm forgetting right now earthquake. You know,
don't sleep earthquake man. The hell of a reality show actress.

(37:28):
But back when we were again thirsting for maybe a
gig that could keep us in one place. At the
same time, we were the house band, you know, we
were the SNL band for that show. But it just
never got picked up in Rris's lounge. People always forget
about that. That was the best, Tracy, that was the

(37:50):
best anyway, So you remind me that I forgot about
And then that kind of came true right in a way.
Uh yeah, eventually I saw my future. Are you psychic? No,
I'm not. I'm also I'm also thinking. I'm also remembering,

(38:10):
uh why I tried to kill this also because she
really did that, dude, like we we were, I mean,
you know what these nights, she's an Indiana girl, I

(38:30):
understand it. Yeah, Riek said something smart or unsavory and
then she took her earrings off and then she grabbed
a weapon. Her husband and had to hold her back.
The only good thing that from that moment was like
because music and she sat in with us like that

(38:50):
was the thing, like when you go, yeah, how did
you prevent a murder? Her husband held her back, but
she did the whole like you don't know about me, motherfucker,
and took her shoes off and took her earrings off,
and it was on. She grabbed. Wait but did she
released to her husband? Wait? Did he die? She protected her?

(39:12):
Why she was gone for a while after that? A
whole ant do it? I know you don't remember because
you were a child. I was only born, yes, yay,
So I just kept getting younger every time. I'm not
gonna be born until this podcast. So you went to
l A what is it? What? What is what was
the process of pounding the payment? Right? So the nice

(39:35):
thing was I went out there with the one woman
show about you know, just like playing different characters and
autobiographical But what did I know? Ato, Wait if you
didn't see that will be one woman show that's not
as a kid as a kid her all day. So

(39:55):
I put a towel on my head and then I
just I literally pulled them Melania Trump and just did
her show. No, how do we let her get away
with that? By the way, But anyway, um so yeah,
I went out to this one woman show and then
I got seen by Mike Epps's manager, Like I literally
only did the show like three times, and then I
got seen by Mike Eps's manager and he was like, Yo,

(40:15):
you are so funny, you should come right from Mike,
And so I started writing for Mike. We wrote up
the sketch show. It didn't go and then um and
I was acting on it too, and then uh went
on the road with him a little bit, started working.
Then I met Jesse Collins, who was, uh, you know,
produces BT Awards and a bunch of other stuff, and
I met him started writing for award shows, and then

(40:37):
I just got connected with all these Dinner comedians and
so I wrote for all these different hosts, Jamie Fox,
Anthony Anderson, Chris Rock, Monigue, Wayne Brady, Sam Jack like
literally everybody. I've written for every male stand up black
comedian who was like at the top of their game
for sure. How did you avoid the Hollywood shuffle or
how did you avoid the chitland circuit uh land mines

(41:01):
that are usually there for comedians, especially for black comedians,
Like how did you avoid the some more route well
playing the CD bars and over like did you start
off in the comedy store in l A And No,
So that's the thing, this is how I avoided it
because I was a sketching, improv comedian. Even though I
wrote for stand ups, I never did stand up. I've

(41:24):
never done a minute of stand up in my whole career, nevertheless,
really never, not once. That's why know. And I'm always
in the comedy clubs always, I've never done a minute
of stand up. What do the comedians that you write
for when you tell them that or have you ever
had that in the conversation? Do they ever what did
they say about that? Or do they care? I've never
had that conversation. I've always been funny and I always

(41:46):
do you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't to comedians.
It doesn't matter. Like it's not there's not a hierarchy. Um,
it's like, is she funny kid? She write great jokes.
The other thing about me is I have a because
I would sit and mimic those people on television as
a kid. I can mimic anyone's comedic style. So I
know how to write for somebody. If I've heard five
minutes of their stand up, I know how to write
jokes for them. You're trying to tell me that the rundown,

(42:12):
this is the first time that you've consistently concurrently in
a half hour, or however, you take your show at
an hour that you stood in front of the audience
and the material and told jokes in a non sketch
acting way for that amount of time. Yeah, wow, that's rare.

(42:33):
But you gotta think about it this way. I'm an
expert at stand up comedy because I've been doing it
for a lot, like two decades. I've been writing it
for years, but I'm a performer. Like even on the
Nightly Show, I was doing the same thing. It was
just like more sketches and like kind of panel stuff,
and like, my whole career has led to this if
you look at the breadth of it, like, but no,

(42:56):
it is true, I guess if you think about it
that way. Yeah, it was the first time I actually
did stand up. But I don't know, I think, yeah,
that's true because it's like trusting a food expert that's
that's never cooked. Oh my god, wait, I'm just talking
about myself. You should get busted. Wait a minute, you

(43:16):
got food books and everything. Motherfucker. I'm probably the only
James Beard exactly author that's never that's weird, But you
get it though, You know what I mean like so
for me, it was like, I it's kind of better
because I was on the road being a student of
every Like literally, I can tell you if you give

(43:37):
me a topic, right, like, I'm not gonna do it.
This isn't like you know who's on, but like but
like if you if I'm okay. So if if Trump
does something crazy, right, so Trump goes after somebody in
the media, right, he goes after Jamal Hill whatever, so
she should be fired. I can tell you how every
host in late night is going to make a joke
on it, all right, So what was Steven Colbert say? So?
So Stephen Colbert is going to make like like okay,

(44:01):
so if you go for the gamut, right, So Kimmel
is going to make a joke, that's probably um okay,
it's the Jamal host. Well, he's not gonna do it, right.
I picked I picked a black person. A lot of
them would touch. That was like Trevor does these funny
like impressions. He he does all these amazing voices, so
he'll slip in and do an impression. Colbert is gonna
make it a stute upside down observation. That's still silly.

(44:23):
Kimmel's gonna make something that's a little bit more of
a fat humor joke, and he's gonna take him down
from A to B. Yeah, what do you say? He
probably won't mention it if Trump did it, But yeah,
but I mean, but you know, it's like, but you
have to be a student of the craft. So it
was like, by the time I came in, I knew
how to write for Larry. I knew how to write

(44:43):
like John I'm you know, I'm I'm a product of
the John Stewart family. He was our executive producer at
the nightly show. He was with us all the time,
and he taught me a lot um. And then Chris Rock,
who's our executive producer, Like I wrote for him when
he hosted the BT Awards, and he's been a really
good mentor of mine since then. And like the common
theme is like once you know your comedy, especially in

(45:05):
comparison to what else is out there, then you can
sell your product. And I knew I had something different.
How do you feel about um? At least the different
classes of comedy I'm curious about, Like in New York,
I know that the Brooklyn Comics are seen as the
you know, alternative comics and all do the same three jokes.

(45:25):
It's really true. God, I am open minded. I love them,
and I think some of them are pushing the boundaries.
But like, if you take a Brooklyn comic like I'm
talking like uh straight up, like textbook Brooklyn, like artisanal
cheese joke Brooklyn, and you and you take it anywhere
else in the country, yeah, you'll bomb. You can't take

(45:47):
that the uptown, you know what I mean. You can't
go to Atlanta with those jokes are doing, especially for
black comedians, Like what are you doing? But at the
same time, I also can't take some of my truck jokes.
And that's why I'm not a stand up. That's why
I created a save space where where I where I
can push my point of view in my comedy. But like,
I'm not, I'm not one of those people who can

(46:07):
go to any comedy club in the country and do
stay has never had a passion for that. So do
you agree now? Chris Rock thinks that any joke should
be able to work in all three mediums. He says
it because he's a genius. It's not fair. His opinion
is not fair. But I'm asking do you subscribe to
that theory because Brooklyn is the alternative world, and then

(46:29):
sort of north of of Street is kind of I mean,
I don't want to be dismissive and say hockey, but
I mean that's where like Carolines is and whatever, like
you'll see, Like I mean, I don't know, it's just
that they're so at at the seller in the village there,
there's such snobs. They are just like Chappelle and Brennan,

(46:51):
you know, those guys, just like they know everything. They're
like old real hip hopers from so I consider them
be high, the the the higher, the hardest to pries,
the hardest to please, insatiable level of of Ivy League comic.
And they look down on the Brooklyn Cats and they

(47:11):
look they kind of they're glad that they didn't go that,
you know, I mean, even though they respect those guys
like the Vegas whoever, the David Brenner's are of this
generation like that work way up town. And there's a
lot of class classes and classism in comedy for exactly so.
And then the Chiland Sarka you got all that. Yeah,

(47:34):
Chris believes that you know, Chris will go to outpost
and try his stuff in that place, and then he'll
go to the blackest club uptown. Do you think that
every comic should adapt to that situation. I don't think
it's necessary. I think that it depends on what you're
trying to do. I think if you're trying to be

(47:55):
a legend, you're trying to be great, yes, and that
that's Chris's great. He is a legend, Like he's so smart,
and he he never gets comfortable. He's always challenging himself.
So I think for him that works. But I think
there are other comedians whose the thing is so specific

(48:16):
that they're just using stand up to get in front
of a larger audience anyway, And it just depends on
your goals. And I don't judge anybody, even the Brooklyn coments.
I don't judge them like they're gonna be great, they're
gonna be the lead in a secom party soon, or
they're gonna, you know, have a weird like uh, you know,
single camera artisanal cheese show. Um. But yeah, I think

(48:37):
there's a place for everything. That's what's so great about
comedy is it's so subjective, like one person can be
like yo, like um, d O hug is not funny,
and then somebody else is like, what are you talking about?
He's the second coming. That's the great thing about um,
that's the great thing about comedy. Like people can watch
my show and be like, oh, she's whack um, but
obviously they're blind um and um. But yeah, I mean

(48:59):
I think there's something for everybody. I don't really judge it.
I think as long as you have a good work,
I think whatever you're doing, it's fine. Okay. Well this
leads for Laya, who is currently pounding the pavement to
when I'm not doing this? Yes, how was the girl

(49:21):
that you know? And why did you get to tell
you better? That reference? On this show? Can I have
jo weigh in my life? You can two black women
share a moor every day? So what would you listen?
What would you recommend? This interviews over the table turn So,

(49:42):
what would you recommend to a young up start? First
of all, with the whole of young damn, I'm trying
to set you up, okay, born in anyway, what would
you recommend, especially with the advantages is it advantage having

(50:02):
you know, do you respect YouTube comedians? And at the
time vine, Oh god, the iral which no, no, no,
it was at the question, not at YouTubers. Whatever I look,
I think it's good. But I think what happens is,

(50:23):
here's what happens to people who have been in the
game a long time. Um uh. You go out for something,
you're up for something, and they're like, we're gonna get
this YouTube person. They're hot, and you're like, but I've
done all the professional things, like I've gotten a degree,
or I've been in the streets, like I've been in
the clubs, like I've been doing all this, Like I've
been doing you know, like I was in nine sketch

(50:44):
groups at any given time, like like like for me,
sketch groups and in prop Olympic and Second City were
my comedy clubs when I was performing in writing. So
it's like I felt like I put in the work.
I didn't just turn on a camera in my bedroom.
But that being said, there are people who work hello
hard on you to but who make millions of dollars,
so you can't knock the hustle. Yeah, there are people
making millions of dollars on YouTube, So I don't knock

(51:07):
the hustle. But I will say that I don't find
like that a lot of them have longevity. There are
some that do. Sort of like how someone my age
was seeing new hip hop and see like, okay, you're
here to do something like somebody like me who's been
doing radio or her life looks at someone like you
that fired, But I brought you with me, right, But

(51:30):
I don't have the deal. So it's just personated. Just so, Okay, well,
now this is going to be since you're wise with
your with your words, looking at like you've been trying
to she's been pounding the payment. What do you recommend?

(51:53):
Are you doing stand up? I've forget my egg, been
writing a lot. I've done some stand up. I've been
writing more and I've been standing. So how do you
help someone find their lane? So and again, okay, I
know someone that uh is a very talented person in
the arts. I think I think he's better off. Why

(52:14):
are you choosing your words carefully? You said we were
being candid, because because I just do that, I'm saying
that I don't think he's marketable as an artist, but
I think there's a future for him as a songwriter.
And I'm trying to encourage them. Yeah, but no one
wants Brandon T. Jackson to write songs. I'm not going

(52:37):
to name the person name listen, but what I'm saying
is that you can. You can open any door that
you want once you get in, Like you're not going
to go to the front door. You might have to
come through the kitchen whatever. So I'm saying that, Okay,
if you you ramp up your songwriting skills, but you're brilliant, brilliant,

(52:58):
and you get a public deal, then yeah, you can
write your own ticket. You could be like I want
to fly to the moon next to get it. What
I'm saying is, how do you help a person? What
do you recommend to someone trying to find their lane?
Like maybe they're better at writing, or maybe they're better
at directing, or maybe they're better at being in front

(53:19):
of the camera being a stand up. How do you
help them find Yeah, good question. I think you just
have to try everything, you know. I think if you
think you want to be a stand up, you gotta
go be a stand up. Like I was denying myself
the fact that I was a writer for many years.
I was just like, no, I'm a comedian, I'm a performer.
I'm just trying to be on SNL, this is what
I'm doing. But I was writing for money on these

(53:41):
TV shows and stuff, and I was like, yeah, yeah,
but I'm not a writer. I don't know why. For
years I denied that, and then I looked up and
was like, Yo, I've been writing a lot, and I
always perform on the things I write on, so I
never had to shut that part of me off. But
I don't know. For some reason, I had this weird
shame about being behind the scenes, which was odd because
once I embraced that, my whole career opened up in

(54:02):
front of the camera and behind it is Sam is
also like can I do this? Because that's like Also
it was well, I always knew I was a good writer.
I just didn't think of it as a job, which
was disrespectful of ship to writers. Um. But I just
didn't have that knowledge. You know, I went to public school.
I don't have a lot of knowledge about this, about
the industry, you know, I went to public school in
the Midwest. TV was like, what that was just like

(54:25):
a weird dream. So yeah, I mean I've always had
this kind of I talked about this the other day.
I've always had this kind of reckless confidence, like I've
always been like, if I want to do it, I
can do it. But then I would commence myself, Oh
but I don't want to do that. But then I
think that was just the fear talking, right. So I
think if you have a passion for it, you've got
to do it. You gotta just do it. Um. I

(54:47):
think the problem with standup is you gotta do it
all the time, because it's like golf. If you play
for ten years and you don't play for a week,
you're terrible again. I'm very scared, and you get more
scared the more time you've just been not doing it. Oh. Correct,
See Eddie Murphy, that's why he won't It's why he
won't come back on stage. I mean, he says it.

(55:07):
I'm not. That's just what he says. I can't be
out here working out material as Eddie Murphy. I can't
do bad jokes. But the only way you do a
special is to go out and work out the material
and they'll be bad. Chris is not afraid to do that.
Rock goes into club with a notebook and a pen.
He'll be like, I'm just gonna read some ship, you know.
When he's working things out and it's genius to watch.

(55:28):
But you know, if you're Eddie Murphy, how do you
do that? How do you go as the living legend
top of the game and go into the seller or
stand up New York or wherever and tell some terrible
ass jokes. Do you think we'll never see Eddie Murphy's Um,
I'm just waiting to see if he's actually gonna do
coming to America too. I don't either. When he was

(55:50):
gonna host the Oscars, I was like, I believe you
want to see it, and then he didn't. You know
what I mean? He he it's hard and I root
for him, like I'm like, he's the greatest living comedian
period and I don't think that there's any way to
live up to that title, and so I have. You know,

(56:10):
I have sympathy for him. Even the ten minutes he
did at Kennedy See it made me so hungry. I
don't care if he just got on sage you're talked,
I would pay all my money. You can have all
my money. But that's why he doesn't understand the love
for him is so great. But anyway, back to you

(56:30):
just be Eddie Murphy. That's all I'm saying. That's just Look,
I think you just got to do it and you'll
find out. It'll take you where you're supposed to go.
But don't close the doors on yourself. And if you're
already writing the what are you waiting for? You got
three minutes in the book right now, five minutes, whatever
you got. That's all you have to do. People think
you have to go out and do an hour long special. No,

(56:51):
you work your way up. You do five minutes, then
you do eight, and then you go back to five
because those other three you find out didn't work. What
do you not? Did you do this? But do you
have some favorite clubs in New York? Yeah? Look, I
think stand Up n Y is really good. Stand Up
New York is great because they have a really good
amateur night. Well, anybody can get up. Go to Stand
Up new it's uptown, um, And then I think it's

(57:13):
the sixties, like Upper West Side. I think that's where
am I getting a confused? No no no no no
no no no no no. So stand Up New York
is a one. Don't try to go to the seller
like you that's crazy. Um. But there's also like n
y U has like random comedy nights and stuff where
like literally anybody can go up and students are kind

(57:35):
of a great crowd because they don't give a ship
and so they'll either laugh or they'll just won't even
look at you. But either way you can hear what
you're You know what the thing is, You need to
hear what your jokes sound like on a microphone. It's
not about what they sound like in front of a crowd,
as much as you need to get used to hearing
them amplified and you'll start writing them differently because no
matter how much you write them at home, that ship,

(57:56):
once it has an echo on it, you'll be like, oh,
that that doesn't work. But honestly, like it doesn't. Yeah, yeah,
that's why they do that. Um, because you need to
be able to hear the joke in the mic Um.
It's not about the crowd's reaction. People always think that's
a joke about the crowd not hearing, but it really
is like, oh, my joke is not working through this mechanism.
It's interesting. There's a whole there's a whole thing. I'll

(58:19):
tell you my two secret smurf spots are okay, he
said it, because that's small little places that any bar
in Brooklyn has an amateur night. By the way, I
work out at two spots. When you work out a
two spots, are you telling me this? Yeah, Well, back
when I was actively teaching, you're not in like a yeah,
go ahead, because you're not in a comedy club. Comedy club,

(58:41):
are you? Yeah? I mean, but I don't do it
as much now that I'm not teaching the semester. But
as you hear three seconds ago, I mean, the reason
why I write more and instagram more because it's easy
for me to communicate when I can control my words
with my ten fingers. But I hate public speaking. So

(59:03):
you go when you try given this show, I lose
sleep the night before whenever we do it, and they
could be like even the Jimmy Jam Terry Lewis show,
like I'm in the mirror like practicing, like like it's
a yeah yeah, but um yeah are our warm up guy.
Seth told me that the way to give over your

(59:27):
public speaking fear is to just tell five minutes story.
So yeah, so you're doing like story slams and she's don't.
Tarik is also on the low. We're kind of working
out where do you go? I don't want to reveal

(59:47):
that because I don't want people judging me. Come on, now,
you just said I'm going to tell you the place
that's a running thing with this show critics. He told
me it's the Apollo at the top of the Empire
side building. It's real. So wait, since you on the subject,

(01:00:09):
there's no there's someone that I am cheering for in
the world of well beside you. You're my hero. Um.
Jessica Moore is just hilarious or just with the message.
She is one of my favorite uh Instagram comedian, like

(01:00:32):
what she's done, Jessica Williams. She's just just with the
mess or just hilarious is what she is on on Instagram.
She's even with Zelia Banks and everybody. She Yeah, she
uses all fifty nine seconds of her Instagram account to
do awesome crafted uh comedy bits where she kind of

(01:00:56):
gives you the ratchet news of the week, and it's
the point where like, that's my shows similar to what's
his name? Who's who's like the Star of Vine what's
his name? Yeah, he's in the Mother of Sanderville, Like,
oh my god, yes, wait really yeah he did. He
was in the movie Oh my god Reeves. Yes, he

(01:01:22):
was in speed. Oh my god, now we're all going
to forget his Yeah, sort of like how do you
I didn't do it neither, less about how do you
feel about graduating and kind of cutting the front of
the bank line. What do you recommend to those who

(01:01:42):
are now going to make their careers off of strictly
YouTube and Instagram to get to come? Or is it
just I don't know. That wasn't like trapped music to
me or like, well you said that pejoratively, but I
don't think that. Yeah, I don't. I don't Northwestern, Um,

(01:02:07):
please give me my credit. I got that to great. Um, Yeah,
I don't know. I think I think whatever they choose
to do is remains to be seen. I don't you know.
Francesca Ramsey is a fantastic YouTube star who's got a
pilot she's shooting out for Comedy Central, and like, you know,
I just kind of just I don't know. I keep

(01:02:27):
hearing that they all get these shows, but then I
don't know what's gonna have, Like Joanne the scammers do
want a pilot for Netflix, Like I'm so excited excited,
I know, but I don't know, Like I never see
these things come to the light of day, and I
wish I would. So I don't know what the disconnect is.
I don't know if it's because they don't know the
business a lot. But like Francesca is the person I
think has a really good chance of making it because
well she's already made it, but like somebody who can

(01:02:49):
really translate over to TV because she's been in the business.
We hired her at the Nightly Show, brought her on
as a correspondent, like she's done the kind and she's
like a writer also. But some of these people, I
don't know if they write. I don't know if they
know TV. I don't know if they know how to
make a product. For two, what I'm asking is the
definition of quote. Making it the end of the ellipses

(01:03:10):
is making it dot dot in our world, which is
the standard that we've known of long form comedy. But
what if that medium that they're doing now is going
to be the standards to which we digest our our entertainment. Yeah, well,

(01:03:30):
I mean I think we'll all have to adjust. I
think late night comedy on streaming and on demand has
proven to be tough. You know, Chelsea Show just went down.
I'm chocked about that because I thought it was doing
the numbers. I don't know if it was or not,
she said. She made it sound like she made the
move to focus on activism, so it may have just
been her choice. I'm not sure, but um, I think
Bill Ny is the only other one that has a

(01:03:51):
streaming talk show. UM, so yeah, I don't I'm not sure.
Like right now for late night, it seems to still
be a TV game, but um digital matters. You know,
to go viral, but you have to be on a
TV terrestrial platform to to uh cross over to the
digital viral plat. It's weird. But yeah, I think I

(01:04:12):
think there's a lot of um TV like comedy that's
happening on streaming that's really funny. I mean, look at
kimm Me Schmidt, you know, look at those are people
who are comedians, who are you know who definitely translates.
So I think there's a room for everybody. I didn't
answer your question. Move on what it was like to
go from being a writer to now some writer who

(01:04:34):
writes for folks and now you write for yourself? Like
what was that transition? Like you're right for yourself? I mean, like,
but now you're like a performer. Some people always ask
that question, but I never stopped performing. It's like when
people ask Eddie what was it like when you fell off,
and he's like, check my resume. I always made movies.
Every year he's made a movie. That's what's crazy about anymore.
But anyway, I just really put myself in the same

(01:04:55):
sense as Eddie Murphy forgive me, forgive me Black Jesus Um. Yeah,
so I've always been performing. Even when I was head
writer in the Nightly Show, I was still on the
show like three nights a week. So now you're like
to focus it's your show. I tend to think I
was the focus on everything I asked. That's clear, and
I've learned that over the past. Thank you, And how
snobby were you at choosing writers for your own show?
Very very well. I will actually answer your question. It

(01:05:18):
is different when it's on you, for sure. And how
different is it that you're the story of the show
and you answered to a showrunner a head writer as
opposed to where I was going to go with it before.
You just skip the damn line of the question of
you being a head head writer for Larry Show before
you got your show, what's easier. Your question was so confused.

(01:05:41):
I'm lost. My My question was before you got your
own show, you were the head writer question. Yeah, okay, yeah, no,
he said, he just skipped to your show, as if
it was in the context of Bill's question. But I
understand why aren't we all high because some of us

(01:06:02):
just aren't small enough to get high. Anyway, I'll talk now.
I get what you're saying. No, I got it, I
got it. So, Uh to answer your question, I think
that the weight the weight is on me now, right,
And I've talked to all the guys um and samby
um and uh. Larry said, yeah, it's different now, huh,

(01:06:23):
which kind of answers your question, which was like, he
said to me, you thought you knew what the weight
was on me, you know, when you were my head writer.
But it's different now. And I was like, you're so right,
and there's nothing that can explain it except by being
in that position. There's something like as his head writer,
I wanted to take care of him and make sure
he had the funniest jokes and keep the writers organized

(01:06:45):
and keep them happy and keep him happy and just
make a great show. My focus was on doing whatever
made him the best comedian to give the best show.
And now it's like, um, I'm looking at people to
do that for me. But the problem is I came
with all of that experience, so I think people expect
more from me, like I'm not like the helpless talent.

(01:07:08):
So the problem is for me, I have to break
myself of the head writers show running like you know,
tendencies for sure, because um, and I think we're still
finding that, to be honest, because I do. I'm trying
to be in every meeting and they had to be like,
get out. You know, Colbert had said the same thing
when he got his new they had they had to
kick him out and knew it. I think that being

(01:07:31):
the star of your show. And I always use this
this Ray Ronald McDonald example, but I feel like as
Ronald McDonald as the face of of your product, I mean,
I know, I'm like, but goddamn you and your clown.
You're right about that now the show is over. No,

(01:07:54):
But I feel like when you're the face of your product,
when you're Ronald McDonald, you should let Ray Croc be
Ray Croc. You should like Boss Bill is Ray Croc?
Which one is Ray crock. Oh that's right, the movie.
I'm sorry. I thought he's wanted to he was remise premise. Yes, okay,

(01:08:18):
Michael Keaton, Yes, So what I'm saying maybe it sound
like Frog with dollars better For all the time in
my life, all the time, I'm afraid of Robin Stephen.
Listening to this. I love it. But okay, I know

(01:08:42):
some people that can't let go. Yeah, and they got
to make every decision. Yeah, it's hard for me. Oh
you too. Okay, so again, because it's easier for you
to be inc droll or for you not. Look, I

(01:09:05):
think I enjoy both. But uh, there's a reason I
created my own show after I left Larry Show, as
opposed to, um, you know, going to somebody else's show. Actually,
we need to tell that story. You know, you are
an integral part of that story. We'll go back to
Arene order because damn I had would you have a

(01:09:27):
breakfast this morning? Tell that story. I don't get to
eat anymore. My schedule is too busy. Now what did
I have? I don't know, some eggs I don't know.
But the end of and the end of that is
that it is really difficult, and I'm trying to IM
trying to take myself out of my meetings. But the
thing is, I, um, you also get this sixth sense
when you are the host of a show, and when
you create a show, you can see everything, you can

(01:09:49):
hear everything, you know everything that's going on. It's weird.
You literally have an extra sense. And people are like,
you don't miss a thing. And I can see, like
when something's not working, I can see it an hour
before body else sees it. And so my problem is
letting people not fail, but letting them find out that
what they're doing is not gonna work when I knew
it a day ago or an hour ago. You know,

(01:10:10):
that's my problem. That's when I'm struggling with because you're
I don't know, I really have this weird I don't
know how to describe it any other way. But I
can see more now, and um, so that's hard for me.
I'm trying to figure out how to let people just
figure it out for themselves. I do trust them, though,
absolutely no. I would tell you if I didn't know.

(01:10:31):
And the reason why I hired the person I hired
it because I've known him for years, and uh, I
knew that whatever I needed. He was going to be
there to say, hey, step out of that. I got it,
you know. So so you have to do that. And
I have co executive producers who are amazing, these amazing
team of women who are like they just have my back.
So that's what's made it easier for me. But it's

(01:10:52):
just a personal thing. It doesn't matter how much people
take care of you if you're used to the one being,
you know, being the one that making all the decisions.
So it's a process. Did you purposely staff your your
writing staff? I mean this feels like a dumb question,
but with women, did you make black black women? Because
you know there's been a black more black female writers.

(01:11:12):
There's not a lot this season on a lot of
new shows, and I have doubled the number, which I've
done twice in my career. I did it at the
Nightly Show and then when we got canceled, and then
when I hired. I have a room of uh, we
only have one writer. My room is all black people,
half women and half men. And uh so yeah, I
single handedly employed the most black women in late night
and uh my staff is seventy women and people of color,

(01:11:36):
which is crazy. That's never been done ever in television.
It's heaven. When people come in. We have bottles of
cocoa butter. I kid you not, we have it constantly.
We introduced all the white people on our staff to
cocoa butter. They're they're like, this is a miracle. Somebody
came in today. I said, it smells like cookies. I said,
that's the cocoa butter. I kid you that we have.
We have, we have like you know, you know, it's

(01:11:59):
just like it's fun. Like we had Amber Ruffin from
Seth Meyers and as Nicole Black from Sam Beyond our
podcast which we're tape in our office on Fridays, and
they came in and Amber was just like walking around
real slaw. I said, hurry up, come on, we gotta tape.
She was like, I've just never seen this many black
people in an office before. She was like, let alone
a TV show. She was just like, I don't know
what this is. This is crazy. Yeah, So it's dope.

(01:12:24):
I love it. I love that we've been able to
do that because that's what I preached, like more black
people need to be in the genre, like more black
people behind the scenes in front of the camera. So yeah, So,
who's the sister that used to be on Larry win
More with you Always? Which one Holly Walker franchise was
Holly because you too seemed like to always be paired up. Yeah,
we've known each other forever. She was she was one
of my teachers at Second City years ago. She's fantastic.

(01:12:47):
She was dope. She was a writer, perform in the
nightly show. She's dope. The kind of political climate that
we're living in right now, I don't like this question.
You want to talk about how you help me create
this show? That's where we were doing. We forgot, We forgot.
Oh okay, how did I help you? Sorry? So radio

(01:13:12):
show like Shock, which is weird? Um, okay, so so
so I so the night show being canceled and I
was a little sad, and UH texted me. I think
it was like Chapelle eight o'clock, like let's go. And

(01:13:35):
I was like, okay, but I mean I text you
Ba because I was like a hype. But I was like, well,
I don't think you know this. I was actually really
sad and like I didn't want to leave my house
and I was like in pajamas and I was like
fuck it. Though, it's Chappelle. We gotta go. So uh,
we went to go see Chapelle and you took me
backstage and you were like, you know Dave right, And
I was like, no, we've never met I know all

(01:13:56):
these other means, I don't know Dave. So then Dave
uh was like hey, and you were like hey, and
you were like you know Robin right, and he was
like uh and you were like from the Nightly Show
and he was like all right, both of us don't
have jobs like this was just after the Nightly Show.
And I was like, hey, you're right. Um. And then
and then he says what he always says to me now,

(01:14:17):
which was are you white? What is you? Are you white?
And then he's like no, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
And so he said, what are you doing now that
the Nightly Show is over? And I said, oh, I'm
actually gonna go. I think I'm gonna go try to
work on somebody else's talk show. Um, I've got some offers,
because I had offers from most of the white dudes

(01:14:38):
and Late Night and um, thank you, and so uh
I was like, oh, I might gonna work on so
on Socio and he was like, nah, do your own show.
And I was like, but I feel like I need to,
you know, be in it a little bit more, get
my name out there a little bit more. And he
was like, no, go do your own show and so
um and so I'm going to record that and make

(01:15:03):
that part of our headache. So so I was like, wow,
maybe I should do I don't show. And then I
don't know if you remember this, we were trying to
meet up with rock. This is a very like Hollywood,
New York night, but we were trying to meet completely okay, yeah, right,
all right, so young and Spike Jones was also standing there,

(01:15:25):
and we were trying to go get chicken at the spot.
You know, it's weird. Yeah, you always always, always were
chicken many times. But yes, this was the this is alright.
The weirdest thing about this night, yeah, was that I
didn't realize that was Spike Jones until six minutes and
you're talking to him. Yes, I remember you telling me this. Yeah,

(01:15:45):
I didn't know. I saw the epiphany on your face.
You we're not slick, and then you were, and then
you tried to clean it up. You were like, yeah,
I just saw your video. It's so dope. Yeah, I
think I just know you because he was very flattered.
He could not have been nicer, but you were like
in the end of video at all man and then
the Treadmills like it. You went extra hard on letting

(01:16:09):
him know that it was all we got to get
married now. So so so we went to go get
chicken and we couldn't find Chris or David. So it's
just me and eating chicken. And the chicken was fantastic.
But it was like chicken right now chene, No it
was not. No, was that pla Yeah, it was probably ribbon. No,

(01:16:34):
it was not. It's the place where you have to
go up the rickety staircase. Oh, I love the word
right now took. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
I wasn't gonna say that, like Robin, I actually do
might like you? Do might like you? That's so cute. No,
I don't know the first chicken spot and I talked
about on our pilot. Damn the Motown stuff playing only

(01:17:00):
take the Top Tier Bitches was there? Damn. Okay, it's
good that you remember. I didn't remember. I remember this
whole night. That means I really like you as a
person not been there. Yeah, I wouldn't say the name
or where it is. There's certain people I can't let

(01:17:23):
me let nothing see me like throw down on yeah, chicken,
it was we ate the chicken on that. Yeah, it
was the best chore we ever did. Remember that like
this and then after the chicken, we'll put you straight
to Yeah. So so we went there and I don't

(01:17:44):
remember how much we really talked about it that night,
but I was like, God, I think Davis right. So
I had a meeting two days later at Jack's Media.
Who does Full Fun Teuble Sambi Amy Schumer's inside Amy
Schumer broad City, that's as amazing production company, and I
was in there to meet with them to run a
different show. I was like, well, maybe I'll just go

(01:18:04):
meet with them about this sitcom whenever to like run it,
not even be on it. And we were having this
conversation they were like, so if you were to do
your own late night show, just like like we were
just shooting the ship. I wasn't in there to pitch.
I didn't have a pitch on me. And they were like, so,
if you were going to do your own late night show,
what would it be. I was like, I don't know,
probably just everything I do, like sketch, um, you know,
political satire, but also like pop culture satire because I

(01:18:26):
care about what black China is doing as much as
I care about what the president is doing. And they
were like, that's dope, we'll buy it. So you were
first for them too, because it's how he was the
first piece of brown for that production company. Nandez is
Brown who owns the company. But I don't think they
have any other shows predate with predominantly black people on them,

(01:18:47):
that's for sure. But but they did produce Top five
and they so they got they got some stuff under that.
They have a lot of good shows. They're really great.
But um, but they were like yo, so because I
told him the story about Dave and then they said it, oh,
well and your friends with Chris. I was like yeah,
and then they were like, well, we'll just call Chris.
So I was like okay, and I walked out of
the meeting. I was like, that's not a thing, Like

(01:19:08):
that's not how you sell a show, right, because I'm
a picture shows my whole life, and I'm like, that's
not how it works. And then a couple of days
later they called and they were like yeah, so um, yeah,
we're gonna make your show Chris some board. I was like, wait,
Chris and didn't happy what. I was like, you're not
serious and they were like yeah. We called Chris and
we said, Robert THEE is doing a show to mix
of politics and pop culture. It's late night. And he
goes yes, and they go do you want us to

(01:19:31):
tell you more? He goes no. I said yes and
we were like what. Like the way it came together
was so crazy, and then we shot a pilot and
then Networks bid on it and we went to BT.
Now we're on. Damn man. We all lived happily ever
after we did. That was perfect cause it was nobody
else to feel that like you really you were the answer,
because when you think about it, who else do you
think about that could feel that void in that way?

(01:19:53):
You know, I know a lot of women who could
do it. But the thing that Chris always says, the
reason why he signed onto this so quickly is not
because I was funny, because he know it's plenty of
people who are funny, but because he knew I could
create and run a show, and he knew that when
it came to making the pilot, and when it came
to making this show, I was gonna put people in
charge to work, and he knows my standard of quality
is like way high, so you know, I wasn't And

(01:20:14):
it didn't matter where we went. It wasn't like, oh, well,
we'll make a good show for b ET. It's like, no,
we're gonna make a show that's gonna rival anything else
out there. Um, you know, with whatever budget we get.
But you know, we wanted to make something that that
anybody could watch. But it was nice that we went
to BT because BT only gave us two directives. They said,
we want to make the show that you want to make,

(01:20:34):
but it's got to be unapologetically black and add some
music every now and then. I was like, BET, great,
what network would tell you that? Um, it really is, No,
it really is. And they're they're they're really open to
having things that they haven't had or things that they've tried.
You know, they tried um the t J Home Show,

(01:20:55):
but they didn't really try it with a comedian, so
you know, I think they wanted something in this honra
um And this was when Steven Hill was still there, so, um,
they needed something smart like they needed smart cool at
the same time. Yeah, I think they were really excited
about what we were bringing in, what they knew I
could bring to the network. And it was really a
homecoming for me because my first technically my first writing

(01:21:16):
job was on the BT Awards. That's what got me
into the writer's guilt. Which year were you? No? That
was my first BT Awards was two thousand seven. It
was with you didn't. I thought, that's how No, that's
how No. I met Chris Rock because of you. You

(01:21:37):
told Chris Rock I was funny, and then he hired
me to write for wright sketches for him. I was
already doing the BT Awards here, but yeah, I was
about to say, when I die, you will realize that
I'm a bridge. You told no. I was already going
to work. So I would work for the BT Awards
for like ten years from two thousand seven, of like,

(01:22:00):
we're not top two thousands seventeen, But I wrote many
years in between that, and so when Chris was hosting,
Chris hired his writers. But then they have other writers
the right leg sketches and monologue bits and or bits
for other people. But Chris met me when I walked in.
I walked into the meeting late as fun too. They
had given me the wrong time. Did I tell you
this story? So no, no, no, no, no, this was
all me. This was all this. I had nothing do

(01:22:21):
with BT. I just read their email wrong and got
there at the wrong time. And I walked in and
Chris Rock sitting there holding court with like Leslie Jones
and John Max, all these amazing writers comedians, and I
walked in and I was like oh, and I was
like hey, and I literally was one of those things
where I had to walk around everybody to get to
the where I could set slow motion. Everyone's staring at
me and I'm like hey, everybody, and Chris goes, who

(01:22:45):
are you? And I was like, Robin Thady and he goes,
Amir said you're funny, and I was like, well, he
does have good taste, and the whole world started cracking
up and okay, okay, but that was the test. It
was like, if I hadn't have said something funny to him,
I think it would have been all down. Joe, Robin,
can you walk us through? Because I'm so curious about
the process of a war show, like it just said
like it was a room of people and then people

(01:23:06):
certain people do different segments like how does that work?
So every host is different. Usually what happens is there's
an in house crew of three or four writers who
write all the presenter bits and all the kind of
connective tissue and stuff, so all this stuff that the
actors get up there and funk up. You know, they
work really hard for weeks on end to crab something
really funny, and then what ends up happening is the

(01:23:27):
artists or the publicist or whatever read it and then
they're like, uh, client doesn't really want to do that,
and then it becomes like this weird amalgamation of something.
And then they get on stage and forget their glasses
and then just say what they want. That's why is
never funny. Yeah, because not for lack of writing. Like
people I was like beating these new writers or whatever.
It's like, no, trust me, the bits are really funny,

(01:23:50):
but just stuff goes crazy, like I don't know, people
just say what they want and uh but sometimes the
bit's worked really well, but uh so then the host
comes and over the host is usually hires their own
team of writers as well. Do you recommend that I do?
I do whenever like, well, yeah, writers who were all

(01:24:13):
at the top of their game. So, and SNL is
writing for a specific they know themselves better than you
know them. I think at SNL it doesn't make that
much sense. But I think if you're hosting awards NOO
where you're selling your personality and you're the host, yeah,
you definitely need your own writers. And Chris. The funny
thing is people like Chris they hire writers, but they
don't need them. Chris Rock does not need writers. He

(01:24:36):
comes in with material that's already killer three months before
the show. I'm telling you there's some comedians who definitely
need writers, but um uh, and I am one of them.
Let's be real. I mean, I'm a great writer, but
I have to write my jokes, you know what I mean? Like,
I need to craft my jokes and I could. I
could absolutely write all my own material. Like music, I
think comedy you should bounce off of other people. Yeah,

(01:24:59):
I do too, and there's no will stand in the
circle and six guys will be like yeah. But Kevin's
also very funny on his own. I wrote for Kevin too.
Kevin's Kevin's very funny. And you get Kevin something, you
can give Kevin something like, here's the cool thing. So,
so Chris is like a word smith everything. Those words
have to be in a formula and he will mess

(01:25:21):
with it for months, years until he hits a joke. Right,
Kevin Hart. You can literally go, Okay, Kevin, here's the joke. Uh,
the door is gonna open, and you're gonna say, well,
I don't even know what time it is, right, and
like that's not a joke, right, But he will come
in and be like, I don't do it, Kevin impression.
But he will come in and make well, I don't
even you know, I don't even know what tapp is,
you know whatever. That's a terrible Kevin Harder. I do

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impressionage and his body language has styled, but also just
that crazy as voice. He can make anything funny. Really,
he really can. I've never seen anything like it. It
is the voice important in comedy. Voice. Yes, I was
gonna say, how long have you had you have this
sort of ratchy Joan Rivers thing going on? I usually
get Cathy Griffin. Okay, I can hear that now, but

(01:26:06):
she said, but I'm just saying if you had this
scratchy voice, because you can go Jewish grandmother. You can
go hood. Um, Italian still racist, even more German grandmother.

(01:26:28):
That is my heritage. So they didn't do that. Um. Yeah,
how long I had this voice, Jesus puppets. Yeah, probably
it actually changed when I had when I stopped eating dairy.
This is actually true, this is not interesting. Feel free
to cut it. Ten years ago, I stopped eating dairy
because it would make me sick and like my throat

(01:26:48):
would start closing up, and I realized I was like
definitely allergic to dairy, and my my voice became scratchier
and less nasily. I used a kind of talk like
I no, I didn't, but like it did sound more easily.
Then I do that and now you're clear. That's crazy. Yeah,
now I'm clear. I'm clear and raspy. I see. I
don't know, it's always kind of been this way since then. Yeah.

(01:27:08):
I mean, now that you're talking, this is the clear,
this is the saltry. You see your voices sounded, But
what do you mean my voice is always sounding. But
in the beginning of the show, you had Cathy Sledge
because I talk a lot right now, I just came
from rewrite like our shows tomorrow. Why did I agree
to do a two hour podcast the night before? I
need to take what time? What time you have to

(01:27:29):
wake up? We have a tendency to keep guest up
way past forever. It don't look at your don't look
at your christ You've got ten minutes. But Karen, you
guys are so fun. Thank you. Steve packed up my
hat for me. Thank you for introducing me to what's
his name, Doud Duckworth? Dope busy? Did you do? Did I?

(01:27:51):
Did you? Were you aware of Duckworth? I know of
Duckworth did but I didn't know him personally. Did you
see him on the show? Yes? Oh he's so right. Yeah.
I was gonna say I love you your I was
kind of jealous of the music. He told you that
inspired by a little I've got his director, It wasn't
inspired by It's a direct goddamn ripball. How about that?

(01:28:12):
Andre Allen, who did is my show director. That's why.
Look I surround myself with greats. That's what you're you're Damn.
I don't. I didn't come to play. You can't make it,
But now you're not. Only are you going to make it?
I think you're going to. I'm gonna make it. I'm
gonna make it. Especially you keep dancing with the folks.

(01:28:34):
It's like, yeah, that's like a just cool, like a dream.
There's a body roll in every episode. It's my Afford
Hitchcock moment. Look forward every episode. You'll see it every episode.
I don't know if you saw a hand Hairmaid's Tale
last week, but I body roll out a window. Like
I'm telling you you need to everything. This is something
that you will totally geek out on, Like if you
just binge the show whenever you have time, you will
see I body roll at least once in every episode.
It's like a secret. And now we're like elevating where

(01:28:56):
you'll find it. It's not in a regular places rolls
Boss Bills doing the fat Albert invisible cheer. I am
such a proponent of the body roll, right. I think
everybody should body rolls twice a day. Correct. I do
it all the time. But I kept doing it in
these like sketches we were shooting and in the music

(01:29:17):
and all this stuff, and they were like, yo, everything
we edit your body rolling. Damn. Yeah that's the easter
ragg look for it. But I have a question. Yes,
so um, I don't think what is happening? Um? I don't.

(01:29:38):
I don't think. I get b E T do no problems,
that's no problem, he does. What what channel? I mean?
How can you see time? It's on Thursdays at eleven
pm Eastern ten pm Central. You can see it for
free on bt dot com. Fol episodes seven days from
when we air, so between from one episode to the next,
you can see it for free. Um otherwise got to

(01:30:00):
log in. You can probably also bootleg it. I don't know. Um,
there were clips on YouTube. But yo, I don't. I really,
I really don't want this conversation to stop. Are you anyway?

(01:30:24):
I am single? What do you look at? What is
a what is a man? To you? Like? The perfect
non perfect man idea? Oh? Sorry, oh ship, I like man? Okay,
well no, no, just just trying to steering her head
or real vibes. So I just thought I'm just saying

(01:30:45):
that trying to the men with my head or real
vibes and woman, yoax with your head ya that's men?
You like es? Question she didn't answer. Have a question

(01:31:09):
for you before we love the table? Okay, okay, what
is your favorite Robin memory? EXCLU just know everyone turned
around and staring me right now, he's sweating bulletin bead
of sweat. Listen, listen, I am your conscious. It was

(01:31:33):
good for you, Jamie Fox Cuts, whoam sorry? Sorry? Look
it up best? Okay, No, I had to plead the
fifth on this because it's a definite moment. But I
can't say on the air because it also involves a

(01:31:55):
third person. Oh, I know what it is. Can you
tell the story? Does it involved an inside flood? Oh?
You don't even remember that code for some No. No,
it's an actual flood that happened inside a building. It

(01:32:16):
happened in Las Vegas. I think with us. Yes, I'm
with you everywhere. Do you just look to your left.
I'm there anyway. Whatever I thought that might have been.
But I know, actually I know what it is. All right,
Well tell a different story that you could tell. Okay,
I'm putting you on the spot. It's fine. So you

(01:32:36):
told seven your stories about you, But it's fine. You
guys were shorter. Yeah, well I literally told like six
personal do it so he can stall. Thank you guys
so much. Thank you. It doesn't sound girl, Sugar Steve.

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We will help you find BT. We're going to help you.
Just help me get to our comedy. I'll need you
to comedy show bill. I'll make sure that the checks
in the mill as always. Cocoa butter, yes, you get
some cocoa better and we in fante. Yes, we will

(01:33:26):
be crashing your wedding. Yeah. Yes, aren't we missing someone?
We're missing he's getting married right now. So thank you
Rob coming. I appreciate it, and we will see you
on the next go around. The Quest Love to PREMI all.
This is Quest Love signing off of course. Love Supreme

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