QLS Classic: Snoop Dogg

The legendary Snoop Dogg joins Team Supreme to talk Doggystyle, producing with Dr. Dre, and how he became the ultimate entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of Course Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio.
This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora.
The legendary Snoop Dog joins Team Supreme to talk Doggie
Style producing with Dr Dre and how he became the
Ultimate Entrepreneur. Originally released in December nineteen. Suprema s Suprema

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role called Suprema Subprema role called Suprema so Suprema role
called Suprema su su Suprema role. Call. Our name is Quessla. Yeah,
and I'm out of breath. Yeah snoops, Jim, Yeah I'm
not roll Suprema Subprema role called Suprema up. Sub Prima

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road call. My name is Fante. Yeah, please hold my calls. Yeah,
because everybody got to heal. Yeah, ship on w ball,
rolla sub primo, roll call South Prima su primo road called.
My name is Sugar. Yeah, I'm a friend indeed, Yeah,

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but a friend in need. Yeah. We'll still your weed.
Sub prima rogue subma s ro in the cut or
tiva Yeah once joints We're bad. Yeah, somebody grind this
weed before the end of this song. Ro Callma sub

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primo roll call sub Prima sub Primo roll call. Yeah,
and Snoop is it true? Yeah? I heard Tima ain't real. Yeah,
how about you roll call Prima So premo, roll call,
Prima Primo road call. My name is Snoop. Yeah, I'm

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not no Beagle. Yeah, I'm a Laker fan. Yeah, and
I like the Eagle. So Premo road call, Prima Primo,
roll call, So Prema, so so primo, roll called So prima,
som roll call, Ladies and gentlemen. We have reached the

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pinnacle this podcast, Black Life Goals. Y know, I have
nothing prepared. This is course love of course, Love Supreme.
As if I got to reintroduce the show that we're um,
this is our Christmas episode, but I'll be very honest
with you. It's still August and we are in We're

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in heaven right now. Compound. Yes, we are in the
compound of all the compounds. A lot can be said,
uh about our guest today, but in my opinion, he's
probably hands down the most beloved, unique, charismatic, talented m
C and hip hop culture period and music period in
life period and I mean hip hop is forty five

(03:17):
years old. And I said period. Um, if I ponder
and gave a thorough investigation. You actually might catch me
saying that he's easily, if not the top three, but
one of the best voices in hip hop. He is
the coolest of the cool his catalogs outstanding, his his
anthems or people's high lives. Uh, he's the craziest live

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show I've ever seen. And I guarantee he's your mom's
favorite rappers. That's yo, ladies and gentlemen, your mom's favorite
rapp straight up Snoop Dog in the building. Appreciate that.
And that roll call was off the hook. Man. I'm
a rapper though, so I stay ready, I ain't gotta

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get Oh yeah, Keith falls all day? Your your album
like my mom would like she because I was talking
DJ Quickly, had DJ quick on the show earlier, and uh,
his album. I couldn't listen to the Curson But when
Doggie Style dropped, that was the one album like my
mama was saying, ain't no fun whitby mom. The real

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mothers around the world that was allowing their kids to
listen to that shoop music back then because they knew.
I guess they knew that I didn't really mean no harm.
I just was I was the young voice, and at
the same time, I appreciate the mothers for allowing y'all
to listen to it because we grew together. Oh yeah,
absolutely yeah. I'm literally out of breath from just being
out in the basketball court. I don't know how you
do it, bro, I don't know. Um, I don't lead

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us on. Where'd you grow up? Right? Where were you bare?
I grew up in Long Beach, California, on the east
side of Long Beach. Okay, And what was your when
you were first started? Like what was music like in
your household? In my household, music was like, uh, Isley Brothers,
My mama loves some Teddy Penagrass, Oh Jay stylistics, Uh,

(05:06):
Manhattan's definitely the daily black Nutrients. Come on, man? Okay? Well,
shockers like what what Jowin like? Street Philly? What joined?
What all right? What Jowin like? Would you would we
be shocked that you listened to that was outside of
the lane of what you're known for listening to your

(05:29):
Cadillac music? Like what I loved um Rod Store was
hot to me when I was he was dope, Like
I loved his get down, like the way he sung
his he seemed like he was singing off what he
was on and and and it seemed like he was
on the wrong bar, but he was always in the
right you know what I'm saying, possessition, Like I love

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the way his voice sounded rock. He had a recipe
soulful voice called to me. I loved me some ross
to it. X. Now, did you have any siblings growing up?
Brothers you youngest, older, older brother, and younger brother. And
then my mother adopted my cousin and we made him
my brother. So it was four boys in the house,

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you know what I'm saying, raised by one single mother. Um.
Music was key, but I probably was the only one
that like really had a knack for it, like was
singing the choir and uh talent shows, rapping other people
wraps like the sugar Hill Gang and Jimmy Spicer when

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they first came out. I learned all of the raps
and ship because I was like these niggas's flawed. So
I learned all of the wraps and went to school
and would just put my name and they wraps. Like
that was like my first you know, intervention with me
trying to become a rapper. Listening to good music and
seeing if I could emulate it, and not being afraid
to do in the front of people, even though if
I was white, real good. So when did you first

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start realizing that you had a knack or gift for
m seeing or singing, or you know, just overall talent.
When did you realize six m eighty five I was cool.
I was, you know, basic rapper, you know, rapping about
cars and swimming pools and ship I didn't have you

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know what I'm saying, you know, the old basic rap
back then in the beginning, I got a big old
house and a big old car, right and they have nothing,
you know what I'm saying. Then I gradually grew into
you know, style like put stout do I want to
use and watching and studying the greats, listening to how
they vocals and how they controlled the microphone, not just

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what they were was, but their vocal tones. There was
a lot of studying that went in to you know,
what I was doing. I wasn't just trying to be
a regular rapper. I wanted to be great. I wanted
to like find ways to affect styles and perfect things
that nobody had done. But at the same time, watching
people who inspired me. I always heard you say that
Slick my man, love him to death, and that's still

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one of my answer this day. Like when I got
a chance to meet him, he became my friend. And
it's like to have somebody like that that you idolized
and that you were able to finally get a relationship
with his beautiful because he's very you know, unique, And
I still look at him as the same Slick Rick
when I was a kid, because he still dressed fresh
and hunted. Chains On still got the coldest conversation and

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he remained him at all times, and that was like
helpful to me to find out who I was and
trying to remain me and not try to get caught
up in the phase but wrapping hard or wrapping fast
or rapping loud, because when I was coming out, most
rappers was rapping like aggressive and hard and very aggressive.
There was a couple of smoothments, but not the pocket

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I was trying to find so well with Slick Rick though,
I mean your your your baritone is also key to
your your little voice. Your baritone is is key to
your delivery. But I mean, how did you did you
finness that style that you have now? Your snarl. I
wouldn't know how to It's somewhere between snaggle Puss and

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I think what it is. Boost Common said it was
like a cartoon of mine. He like, you got a
cartoon mind, So a lot of times when you're wrapping,
the voices that you hear will be you know, cartoon related,
you know, some sort of cartooning. I may have heard
as seen as a kid, and I emulate that and
put that vocal into my rap with the delivery, like

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you said, snaggle Pus like because to me, because the
way he talked, it's sort of kind of like the
way I swan it when I'm wrapping. Right, So even
as a team, you had this style developed. No, hell no,
I would hate for you nigga to here to me music.
All right, That's what I'm trying to lead to. No,

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you know something has been like well coming down N
seven version when you were Snoop rock Ski and you
know what was your first name, Snoop rock Skate. Yeah,
wrong with that ship for a minute. It's weird, I
mean because it's most most West coast Yeah, most West
Coast cats. I know, I won't even admit to having

(10:12):
any sort of East Coast and floridace that nigga. We
loved everything about the East Coast. If you don't knock
it off, nick yall niggas was the the pavement to
are walking on ship nigga. We wanted to be like
y'all with the bell buckles, the mink coach, the Obama jackets,
the motherfucking can go, the gold chains, all of that ship.
We wanted to be what y'all was because y'all created that.
And I say y'all, I say the Eastern General because

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they from Philadelphia to New York. Nigga from Steady be
the motherfucking all these niggas that had all that flavor
in that style. We watched that and then we emulated
and put our own flavor on it. That's how the
hip hop game was created. Somebody had to start it,
somebody had to see it and then add their pieces
on what they saw, and then that's what created hip hop.
That's why it's growing into different nations now. That's why

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people in different countries, Uh do hip hop. They don't
even speak English, but they do hip hop. What was
the first show that you've ever seen conscoct wise music,
hip hop or the winds? What wait? What the weirds?
In nineteen seventy nine, when Stephanie Mills was playing on Again,

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I saw that one. Yeah, that ship was dope. Don't wow? Lie?
Who took you? Moms? Did you see it? You know?
It was like a church thing. That's when I was
good boy, and you know, you know, the church got
us a couple of tickets ago through the winds. You
know we're gonna take brother snowby Waters to he been
not going good and church, you know you're gonna get well.

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All right? So hip hop wise, what was the first
show you saw run DMC? First Fresh Fast? Yeah, okay,
I remember when we shut that ship down. I was
going to ask, was it the Long Beach show that? Ye?
Can you? All? Right? All all the the idea of

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a riot breaking out at a hip hop concert, I'll
never forget, like the coverage and right on magazine where
like they had to. I remember Vanessa Williams was even
at the show for some reason. But now I know
Russell Simmons the way I know him. Yeah, of course
Vanessa Williams was there, but but they had to give
it like a press conference and the whole ideal Rappi

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and violent or whatever, like they put my city on
the map. It started with this ship. That's how I
know what Long Beaches. Would you recall what happened at
the show? Like young, I probably was like thirteen fourteen.
I couldn't get in, so I ended up sneaking in
one of the homies and when I got in, um,
they just didn't have no security. And like it was
a good It was a good show. It was tight.
It was like l Al Houdini and Allan. But what

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the problem was it was some l A Niggers that
came down the Long Beach and the l A Niggers
was basically known for just you know when you go
to l A. They suck the concerts up and you
know they run everything. They came along Beach and then
realize we was deep and we was we was on
one game at one time, was three different gangs and
Loan Beach, but they all was together at that particular time.

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And when they tried to come and do some ship,
it happened to be doing the intermission and I spoke
with le Or to find out exactly what the moment was,
and Leora told me he was like it was a
break between acts, and when the when the acts would
have a break, they wouldn't have a DJ and nobody
playing on music, and it just went black on stage.
And that's when niggas seeing each other was like I
think it was between l L and Houdini because l

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L came out with all read on and our city
is all crips we didn't have And that's when bloods
and crips wasn't cool at all. Like now it's it's
way better, but back then it was no dialogue, no
understanding that when he came out with that red on,
niggas was like that was problematic. He wanted them, you
know what I'm saying, Like it was ship that was
going on from that perspective. And then that the the

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l A Niggas came and tried to push up in
Long Beach, and the Long Beach Niggers had to defend
their turf and it was some essays there and it
was just a bunch of mayhem that had nothing to
do with the concert, and it sucked the concert up
and they put our city on the map for all
the long reason. But then I came and cleaned it
up all right, so speaking speaking, of those early tapes

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that you made, how did you like it was two
or three your first project? What was your first development
actually doing tapes? And No, my first development was probably
UM eighty three. It was a rapper named Captain Rapp
Long when she had a song called bad Times. Oh
Captain Rap Okay, Yeah, So he Um lived his mama

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lived on Alm Street, which was like the gang Bank
Street twenty one and Alm Street, and I lived on
twenty three Locust, which was like three or four blocks away,
and I heard that Captain Rapp was over there. So
I had made a cassette. You know, you pushed record
and played that old school ship with you know what
I'm saying, rapping into the cassette. Did that, did like
about five songs. They were all Whacke went over to

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seat the neg and Heaton listened to him. He was like, no,
you ain't ready, you need to blah blah whoop in
the game. He game he was. I appreciated that because
now I hear him and see him in real life
right now today, and I remember how he treated me
and how he was to me on some real ship
like and he was like the first rapper from Long
Beach to have a song out, but at the same time,
he didn't have no more songs out. So when I

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listened to his song, I was like, Okay, I want
to make a hit, but I don't want to just
make one hit, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm
gonna learn from this like that. I'm too greedy. I
want more. So he was just pimping that one song.
I got no follow up and just nothing else. I
don't I don't know what happened. You know, around that time,
West Coast Rap was limited. That was like fast. West
Coast Rap was like bad times little Look, that's that's

(15:39):
what we were rapping like that, you know what I'm saying.
So that ship came and went and then effect on you.
Tidy t is one of the coaches in my football league,
but yeah, he uh. I mean they've been friends for
the past twenty five years. But Ty had a real
big effect because I was a drug dealer and the
bat around was really real, like we would really see

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it come through the neighborhoods. And that song was so
symbolic to West Coast music because it was like the
first time that we had a record that it was
about us and the ship we was going through that
everybody on the West could relate to that was selling drugs,
and most drugs dealers became rappers. You know what I'm saying,
because that's what T T and then was they was

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drug dealers that were rappers. They just so happened to
be making music because they were like, like we got
to spare time, it's mixing music. It was him and
another rapper named mixed Master Spade. That was the ship.
He used to wrap like he was in church, like
welcome part of people, and I'm some class you. Yeah,
I got the leaders in the fronts a whole rap

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sound like that year it was cold with it. I
gotta look at he had singles out of hell. Yeah,
what's what's his name? Yes, sir, okay baby four n W.
They were they were the ones before n W A
like David from Compton. It was representing that gangster ship.

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There was real drug dealers. They the one was not
the tools. Did you have any uh experience like any
Uncle Jam situations or any of those? Actually Uncle Jam
Roger Clayton rest in Peace, came to Long Beach in
nineteen nine and was working a club called the Toe

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Jam and that's with me and Domino used to wrap
at you know Domino together. We was wrapping there, and
the twins and Orangey and the whole little click. We
was all wrapping there. And he kind of like knew
that me and Domino had some special because he would
always separate us and let us like come in a
little booth. He had like a space booth in the air,

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like old school ship like appear but it's over the grownd.
He would let us come up in there and let
us wrap. And it's like you could tell that he
knew that we were special. And and I didn't even
know this motherfucker was Uncle Jam until after the fact
because he he wasn't like I'm Uncle jamess, like it's
Roger Clayton. And then I was telling people, yeah, I
did this one right there, like nigga, you know uncle Jam,

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Like who was Uncle Jam? Like when did this party start?
I've heard of his parties, but I just don't know.
The seventies late seventies. Oh he went back that far.
I think George Clinton bless him. I think George Clinton
was like, you know what, you're the young guy out
here in the l A that's pushing and promoting my
ship and doing that thing, and I think he took
it on and say, all right, I'm Uncle Jam. You

(18:27):
understand I'm Uncle James army because I'm part of you know,
what George and them is doing, and I'm just a
culmination of it. Like you know how this is. They
inspired us everything, Uncle Jam. It's phone Base, everything that
that we do, his phone Base, because those were the
originators of what we loved. Damn Rick James. Yeah, being
the whole phone mac. Can you explain to us the

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importance of the rhodium and like what that was heard? Yeah,
it was a fleat market, but it was the spot
that n w A made the first like mixtapes that
really broke ice like Dope Man, Gangster gatest All. That
ship was in there first, like on mixed tapes. So
they was like they're making like songs. The Cube would

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be rapping and Drey would be on the turntables and
it was like jacking for beats before jacket for beats,
you know what I'm saying. But Dr Dre was doing
the mixing and taking Nigga's beats and Ice Cube was
wrapping and sucking it up, and they was rapping gangster ship,
and back then it was it wasn't common to wrap
gangster ship. More more rappers were, you know, wrapping the
right way of you know, yeah, like Caress One didn't

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give a fuck. He was going hard. You know what
I'm saying. He was one to get just Ice didn't
give a funk. He was hard, you know, was certing niggas.
I just think here Ice Tea didn't give a funk.
He was hard. But some of them was just like
you know, Rock him was hard, but I never heard
him cuss like I wanted to him, except I was

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like on the origin of my malory, I didn't work
ship tears ship. I don't want him to motherfucker give
me some good ship Rock. So for for those tapes
like where you an ardent collector of him? Like as

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far as Dr Dre's concerned, were you was it a
goal for you to like, Okay, one day I gotta
get to him, or one day I wanted to get
to Steve. Steve, you know, he was the one that
ran the roodium swap me. Oh so you just want
to get your product and I just want to get
to him because to me, fuck them. He was the

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one because he could get you out there. I wasn't
good enough for them. I didn't want to go to
them and like get him music that wasn't dope was theirs,
Like that's the kind of rapper I was, Like, I
never wanted to rap for dre. I wanted to get
down for a w because I didn't think I was ready.
Like so I would rather make music and get ready
and then once they discovered me and feel like I'm ready,

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then we make that happen. And that's exactly what happened.
Goad oh um, so from the first explained us exactly
how when you first started, when you warn and Nate
for two and three? When did y'all start recording together? Well, um,
me and Warren g was friends from like elementary school.

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I met Nate Dogg in high school in the eighties six,
when I was in the tenth grade he was in
the twelfth grade. We had a class together. We just
used to be sucking around, you know, beating on the
table and singing and rappid. Then we had seven period together,
which was pe and we never went to that so
we would always be singing this ship in the back
of the gym. So but More was my dog, and
More was always wanted to do music with me, but

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we never like did music. So then I figured out
a way to get all three of us together. And
once we got together and got past all the argument
and fighting and ship because them niggers used to fight
all the time, waring and not standing why it su
me up and they got all the history. And then
Nigga was always fighting each other like just like I

(22:00):
really go brother like way, like Nigga like you know
how brothers is like like what the fund is y'all?
And and and I'm in the middle of the ship, like
fun is y'all fighting about? This is bullshit? Record before
there happened a lot before the records. When the records
came out, only conflict was like just in the studio,

(22:21):
you know, they dog like doing the ship at a
certain way. He like that. He hard at it in
the studio. He's like doing ship. You know, funk that
I'm doing it this way. I'm singing the motherfucker the
way I wanted to sing it. They was always singing.
Always was he ever MC at any point in his
lifever neverybody could he could? You know, Like like I said,
when I met him. We was rapping and singing in

(22:43):
the back of the class, like he wasn't just coming on.
Nigga was rapping with me, you know, I was, you know,
beating on the table and ship wrapping it at the
same time. And he would come in and rap and
then certain points he would make, maybe saying some ship
and they'd be like that a fly And he always
had that movie, always had that ship. Like he's sounding
like R and B nigger. That to me, you always
sounding like to do from uh what's the group? Mind

(23:06):
blowing decisions? He sounds just like us if Nate when
he used to sing Always and Forever, he sounded exactly like,
uh damn like niggers just saying that for the homies,
likening always and forever, Always and forever. Nine niggers in
the room. Yeah. So from the time when y'all started

(23:35):
making records, I've always heard you credit the DNC has
actually teaching you how to right rhymes or or structure
your rhymes. Rather, Um, how did you go from like
just freestyling, Like how did you start developing, you know,
your pen game before meeting uh dre and doing deep cover.
Freestyling was my main thing because I was, it was
easy for me to come to my head real click.

(23:56):
I would always you know, I was quick with it.
And then I started writing. But my rhymes that I
wrote were like so basic, Like I was freestyle complex ship,
but I would write basic ship, and I couldn't understand,
like why the funk am I soul basically when I'm writing,
but I ain't, you know, basically when I'm freestyling, because
I guess it was a more challenge exactly so. And

(24:17):
then I started saying fucking when I was started making tapes,
I just started going in there just saying ship, like
funking ain't gonna write no ship. And that ship was
sounding better than the ship I wrote. And then once
I got with you know, different producers and certain motherfucker
was giving me game on. This is a six team bar?
What's up? Six team bar? That's when the ships started

(24:38):
here and in here nigga rap forever. You know, back there,
we had a hundred motherfucking boars. You know, that's what
rappers did back then, niggas, in order to break that
ship down. You know, we just wrapped it. We couldn't
rap no more. So then once'igna learned how the structure
was all right, cool, I got it. But then when
I got with DR and d O C d OC
showed me how to make songs like I would bust

(24:58):
at least they bust something my us. Like three minutes.
He'd be like, all right, see what you said right here,
that's the hook. What you said over here, that's the
last sixteen. Over here, it's the first four right here,
that's the next eight. Like he would take myself. This
Nigga was nigga, like he worked for motherfucking Microsoft. Nigga. Yeah,

(25:24):
Nigga put thing together, like even when they came to
g thing like I wrote it on the East Side,
but the last part I was stuck. And he came
in because it's something I had said a long time ago,
and he was like, Nigga, remember that ship. We was
like like this that and this set up because I
said that in the freestyle when I was just free

(25:46):
style on one time Nigga's Dr Drene snooped up and
we do it like this and he was like, yeah,
do that and put that at the end and then
put my name in there, like what's your opinion now
on younger mcs and being able to freestyle versus not.

(26:07):
That's ain't what it used to be. You know, like
basketball and what it used to be, football and what
it used to be. You can't expect them to be
on the level of the game. That ain't the same.
You know, when we came out, you had to have
skills like that. I remember I had the battle like
forty niggas in New York one night, like on some
real ship. And then Corrupt stepped up and served about
a thousand niggas. And I'm not making this ship up

(26:28):
like a karate movie nigga, like he was running up
with the same outfits on the niggas up. But that's
what that's what hip hop was for me. When I
came in in the eighties, I started rapping, I had
the battle about a hundred niggas before I even got

(26:48):
to a microphone. Before I even got to a microphone.
Then when I got to a microphone and be like
a house party, and if you ain't saying the right
ship nigga, they Boo d J put on something like
they get out of here. I say, niggas get shut
down to get house parties. Then I started doing talent shows,
so it's like I started getting familiar with the mic

(27:09):
and my voice, and I started recording myself like I
hear what I sound like? All my voice need to
be like this, not all rapping, all loud and talking
like that. That ain't me. I need to be in pocket, damn.
See that's how usually with people that have low register,
they do that a lot. They practice practice, yeah, and
then they find their zone. That's where that you new

(27:32):
to to discover that even without someone you know instructing
you to to to practice on tape. And that idea
is for a drummer too, that's just different. Mindset was
more like there's the basement going there, don't come out
until after five hours. Like it was just it wasn't
like let me find my style. Was more like, yeah,

(27:54):
it's better be home right after school. But how do
you like for example, like if I say give me
some al greens and then give me some James Brown drums?
Well that see. The thing is is that the is
that the mic even I think even beyond uh drumming,
I am, I mean, I'm a record collector and I

(28:18):
process information different. So for me, I've discovered that it's
really in in the microphone, in the mixing. I'm mentioned
in the style also, so if you want Al Jackson
and I know that, okay you want, I'm so glad
you're mine or whatever, then I know, okay, I gotta
tune this down and all that stuff. But that really
just comes from listening too, listening to drummers and knowing

(28:41):
how to tune my drums to sound like theirs. It's
not even a technique. So I consider myself more like
a mirror than an actual person with the style because
I noticed you can get those things just like I
listened to you. I'm like, okay, he can get any sound.
He won't like the boost y'all be playing with all
kinds of sounds. Ye sound. What I like is when

(29:01):
y'all did if you don't want a thing that you
got me, thank you brother should I almost got talked
out of that. The label was like, dog, y'all gotta hit,

(29:23):
don't do this fancy. The thing was we we lived
in London. We we had exiled to the UK from
like ninety three about ninety seven, even though we was
living like both in Philadelphia and and abroad, but we
were torn more abroad, and so that's when drumming bass

(29:45):
I was just starting to pop off garage and two
steps and on all that stuff. So when I got
back to the States, I was like, all right, let
me add some of that London ship that I learned,
which is weird because outcasts and doing bombs over Bagdad.
That was their version of that. You know, Okay, let's
do what we learned in London. But I tried to
do it in the label, like try to talk me
out of it, like radio is not gonna play this,

(30:06):
You're messing it up. So I fought they taught me
out of jil Scott, but I kept the drumming bass.
Who get rid of jil Scott, But I'm keeping my drum.
That labels like back then had more say so and
could really like come in there and say some ship
that you had to do well. At that point, we
were unproven, and it was just like this was our

(30:27):
fourth attempt at trying to make it happen. Even for
the proving. They did that like they would come in
there and tell them mother, some weird ship. It was
many times, but I sat down with Jimmy iving on
some good ship. But I liked his perspective. But then
sometimes we clash because I like, NIGGI, you can't tell
me Nick, you don't know my ship. They're like, hold
on this nigga do no nigga, This nigga didn't work
with nigga boots, springs things. Can you give us an example?

(30:53):
Can you give us an example of something YouTube classed over? Oh? Man? Uh? Producers? Really? Yeah?
Who did you want to work with it? He didn't
want you to work with him? H I don't want
to say the name, but it was a producer that
I really wanted to work with that He didn't really

(31:15):
see it, but he kind of saw it, and then
once we started doing it, he understood it was for
wait wait, wait wow. He couldn't see that. You know what, though,
I'm gonna tell you something. In the beginning, you couldn't

(31:35):
see it. Pharrell was a hard sell for me. Here's
a super ship I loved. I can't make a mistake
by MC light because it was loud as ship. But
it's almost like there's some unconventional there's some unconventional about
the neptune and sound. I think that's what drew me

(31:55):
to it. That took me. It took me two months
to to really really get it and get aboard and
now it's like, the weirder their ship is, like take
like the clip second album. The weirder that ship is,
the more I'm on for it, you know what I'm saying.
But they were hard sell because I mean the first
my first I can remember them was on the Mace
album like they're looking at me joint and you didn't

(32:17):
like that, Okay, I didn't know who they were, feel
like I remember this. But then like I think I've
got it around like super Thug, like super Thug and
like I mean the stuff with Norway like all that
ship guy. But I could see the nep your first
to the palace right at least? No, I think the
chronics blowing uh yeah, yeah, blowing chronic To me, it's

(32:40):
like a tradition. To me, I got the pit the
so sit there and listen to me. Don't go against
me food, go with me, and we can blow it
all together like Bobby Brown and with me. Yeah we
got something to come and nickel such. But they never
finding my bombing. I got the stash, spot, my cash,
got a lot of motherfucking pump police shot. I'm not
the one nigga you can call me to two Bob Marley.

(33:02):
We incordnated, pupils dilated a maxipated deslutely. This is almost
like that. I'll be short episode together. You get hypnotizing
someone's voice and then n just stopped. Thank you for
sucking over me fast. Was it true that Deep Cover

(33:23):
y'all didn't even have the record done before y'all signed
a deal to do the night? Tell this story, he'd
tell it better than me. What it was was Dr
Dre was going to the gym right and we was
in Calabashas at his house living at the time. You know,
he gave me a beat and he was like this
to beat. I'm want my ship to start off like this.

(33:45):
Two nice tonight, I get ad some ship Deep Cover
on incognito tip and then he left. So he gave
you those four lines. Been a nigga left. I'm not
making it up. So they should call about the hour
and a half letter, Doggy Dog, I'm gonna call you
back on the phone with the people from Sony. You

(34:06):
got the song done? I said no. The nigga just told,
just gave me the beat and left. What's you what's
the song about? I don't know what it's about. But
the movie is about the undercover police officer. So I'm
gonna call you back. I want you to like freestyle
a little bit, and then i want you to get
to a certain point and I'm gonna say, all right,
cut it off, and you're gonna hit the button and

(34:26):
cut the music off, like everything cut off, and I'm
gonna call you back. I'm like, all right, come on,
dog and the guy ain't making this ship up nig
and the nigga called me back about an hour later,
and I had a little bit of it that like
maybe like four bars of it, so he called back.
He's like, doggy Dog. I got the people on from
uh Sony didn't want to hear the song, and they

(34:47):
gonna put the beatle and they could just start busting
the free style and going and going, and they said,
all right, cut it off. I'm gonna call you back.
Nigga called me back and said, Nigga write the song
Nigga's called Deep Covers about an undercover police officer going
undercover and selling drugs. I'm like nigging my dope case
was about me selling dope to undercover cop in my

(35:08):
real life. Whoah yeah, So I took my real life
and put it in deep cover and it just so happened.
It all came came together. And then when we do
the song right now, it's the funk up. Or when
we finish it, everybody in the room like this a hit.
Only one motherfucker don't like it? Doctor what the only

(35:33):
nigger that don't like it? Seem like an insatiable perfectionists
were like, do it again? Do it? That nigga did
not like it? And when the trick was they tricked
me to. They tricked him too. They were like, we're
gonna do a photo shoot. They go five hundred dollar snoop,
get you something to wear. So I go to swap meat,
give me some khakie Chicago white Sox jacket with the

(35:55):
long beach hat. You know what I'm saying. I'm like
T shirt and chuck somebody. I'm cool. We get to
the photo shooting. It's a video. I've never been on
a video before, so I don't know what the fun
is going on. So now the director like he's talking
to me and Dre like, all right, I try I
need you to uh to act on this scene right

(36:16):
here and trade like ship. I don't do all that
let that nigga do it. I'm like, They're like, yeah,
well you know, and what what what the beauty of
it is? It was the part I did at the
beginning of the song. I think you hit this in
front of you with the whoop that ship. So he
was like, do that, but I'm gonna have somebody acting

(36:37):
with you. You You don't have to do both parts. You
just do your part and WHOOPI wapp So he had
the actor come in. Dre just sitting down the whole
scene just just look. I'm like, nigga, you just start.
Nig You got me doing all these lines in this dialogue,
and I thought this was a photo shoot, nigga win doing.
How long did it take for you for Dree know

(37:00):
that and you he had his greatest discovery? That would
probably have to be a question he would have to answer,
because I mean from the first from the time you
met him to the time where he's like come to
the studio, how many how much time was in between that?
At least four years? But I never rapped for him?

(37:21):
Wait what? I never wrapped for him. Let me tell
you how he used to go there warn you and
Dre mother and father were married so there would be
functions at their house and Dre would show up and
war had like some turntables in the back, and he
would try to always get rad to coming to back

(37:42):
like Snoopy can wrap, you know back there. Nigga like,
I don't want to hear nigga raps, so he would
never be like, let me hear something like this is
when the nigga was making he shot. I shot because
he played that for us. He was like, I want
you all to hear this ship I'm working on. He

(38:02):
just played that one particular part of the song was
easy said he shot Popp and niggas like damn that
ship hard. And then one was like Snoopy can rap,
And I'm like what the did he say? And then
luckily nigga did say let me hear something. He's like okay, alright,
and he walking room. I was like, yes, like Nigga,
don't ever tell that nig I can wrap. Nick. I

(38:24):
don't want that nigga to hear me. So did he
finally get to you? Being on decover? Who made that connection?
Warren jill Um We had a tape two and three
mixtape and um it had a song when they're called
Super Duper and a song called Gangster's Life. And the

(38:45):
Gangster Life song was like a story about me being born.
You know, the first day I get born, I go
to the liquor story that arrested, Like it's like a
cold as gangster story. And at the end, my brother
ends up becoming a gangster, ended up getting killed. So
it was like it was a gang bang as story,
but it had like some positivity. You can see the
writing was the next level, so Dre I guess he

(39:07):
liked that style. But the how he heard it, it
was at a bachelor party and the music cut off
from wrang to always go to their parties, and the
music cut off for orange Slide in my tape when
the music off not a party back rocking, and Niggas
is like, who was that? Oh that's uh my homeboy

(39:29):
Snowby and whooped the whoo whoa whoa. So Drake like, oh, Nika,
that'sh it something hard never let me And then that
that's how he heard it, from watching the reaction of
the people and having the air at the same time,
probably hearing my voice here and the delivery the way,
like I said, the song was structured, it was one
of my best structured songs. Said, yeah it is, it is,

(39:51):
Yeah it is. I can get you that Gangster's Life.
I can get you the original version and it was
a version that we did with Nate Dog on it
after we was on Pissing Everything. Okay, great, awesome. So
from the time that y'all got into um after you
do deep Cover, how did the transition go from deep
Cover the Death Roll? Uh? When we did deep Cover,

(40:16):
we didn't have no money. We was just that was
also on Solar rights. Exactly. Did you have any interactions
with Dick Griffree what's over? Yes, Sir Griffy used to
give us money for chicken wings and that us our
first apartment where we was living next door to Calvin
from to seven who acting like watch that show. He

(40:42):
still what I'm saying with the Calvin at the time
with the Calvin, he was still no. That was after Calvin,
but he was always gonna be car family around. It's
like bad believe that main No no no place, I

(41:13):
mean no place. Child, don't played too much. I don't
watch too much television. Watched it when you can get
in you're watching. Yeah, it's syllable. You should have heard
us in here singing the Amen's theme song earlier. It

(41:33):
was gene no not like oh me shut like shint
on me anyone your word? That person could of time.

(42:00):
That's awful. Who was singing that? I think that yeah
almost yeah cold. I did know that she had a
deal back in the seventies, So y'all was next door

(42:20):
to Calvin watched this. Did Griffy got an apartment where
they say death Row got it? But did Griffic got it?
Because they hand on motherfucking money at the time, So
did Griffy got his apartment? Right? So the department was
in Rage then because she's on't one that had credit
and was living in a one barroom apartment. And Rage

(42:43):
had a dog named Buster, and we all stayed in
that one bearo apartment on third and Detroit Street, and
we used to walk from third in Detroit all the
way to sixteen hunty ka. That's a long that's a
long as walk, Yes, every day in the studio. And
then we the Popeye's Chicken if we had like five
or ten dollars to get a few wings. And I

(43:03):
got to figure it out. Inderstand me, don't let we're
gonna split that last wing. I'm gonna take this part.
You know, this is the Jimmy Jams story all over again.
That's how the ship was. They came out to l
A with three hundred bucks and a Cassio machine because
when they made the hard Times beat for Captain from

(43:25):
Captain Ratt, they made that beat. Yes, wait a minute,
yes they make that beat. They got they got fired
from the time and then Terry Lewis is like, yo,
it's either do or die. Let's go back to la

(43:47):
They came out there three each and some suits and
they lived off of chicken wings and milkshakes and sold
that beat. And that's, you know, is history, right, thirty
million albums. Let's see how they moved on and he
didn't and they were just the production and he was

(44:08):
to face the voice the whole nine. But they moved on.
They probably had more drive, well they had something to prove,
you know, they had more driven the You're Gonna find
me I got a rap song that's hot right now,
wait till I get ahold of Janet. They're funny time
that story Prince uh through control, out out the car window,

(44:33):
the Jimmy Dam's house, and through it Jimmy Jam's mom's grip?
Why control album after it was done? Yeah, yeah, after
it was out. Why because he's petty like that, like
when you leave him, even if you fire him, if
you leave me, no disrespect. But you know you couldn't
funk with that album? She was all grown up? Was sampent?

(44:57):
I did what people to Yeah, this is gonna be
a hard to clear episode. We got time. It's August,

(45:21):
it is Christmas? Should I ask one? No, it's Christmas
in August? And anyway, all right, so in in the beginning,
I mean at the time, did you even envision that
this would happen? Like what was around the corner? Was

(45:41):
it just like all right, we're gonna work on this
one song. And then you know, you know, you don't
really know. I don't know, I don't know how big
it could be. When did you realize that something is
about to happen? When I was on the box, Remember
the box was the ship when you joint right, the
girl is coming over one day? That motherfucker came on

(46:02):
like fifty times, back to back to back. Thing. Uh, Well,
y'all going to day Drake and I go with y'all.
You know what Dad's running down the step. They showing
the same ship just over and over again, over and
over again. It's just getting requested. And then they show
you what's the next video coming on. I'm like, damn,
my papa. And I was staying with my cousin on

(46:22):
the couch and I woke up on her couch and
she was like, Nigga, you a star. I'm like, I'm
gonna star. Like, yeah, Nikki, your video came on like
all day and night. And I was on the couch like, damn,
this is our stars. I ain't got no I'm on
your couch. You want to know something, you know what
you're saying with my parents? Right? What my mom and

(46:43):
my dad? My mom and my dad just chill to
the next episode. What my mom and my dad? And
then the yeah, the side, Yeah, pulling back on that
ass with the hell of five. Yeah, I came off

(47:10):
from moms and back like it was a funny. So
when this ship would come on the box in Philly
and I heard that, that was like yo, me and
to Reek lost it light because y'all know that's your mom.
Yeah it was it was like we won the lottery.
Ticket was a big record, man, Yeah, a big big

(47:35):
record man. For real, man, how did y'all never have
this conversation? I don't. It's the first you got to
know each other. Yeah, but I mean I don't want
to introduced like yeah, you said I forgot he said thing.
I was like, thing, Oh ship, I forgot my mom
with that. That ain't what I wrote ge thing off of. No,

(47:55):
I know the no I wrote it off do do really?
The south side of it's called south side it's that
was the initial beat for z thing. That's what That's
the beat he gave me. And I took it on

(48:17):
champ in Line, on my O my cousin's house, and
I wrote the whole g thing so for that came
back to the studio and bust that shipped off of
that for him breaking took the snoop Doggy Doug and
Dr Drake is after ready to make an entrance. So
back on up because you know we about the he

(48:37):
made a microphone for us, so walking for us, Slacker,
bubble comping and loan Beach together and that you know
you can trouble with saying nothing but the cheek that
back to death thinking so and Death wrote is the
label that we've done thinkable some place, don't try another
think yeah, hell yeah, man, can you describe so like

(49:04):
break down what was kind of the division of labor
in the studio between like Daz, Dre, Nate, uh corrupt,
you know what I'm saying? Like what was kind of
each person's job? Was one person better at hooks or
so then the other? Like how did y'all work? And DLC?
Because DLC he was for the chronic as well well.
DC was like the guy that he was, like the

(49:29):
sentence you had to the rap had to pass his.
I funk with it before Dre would fun with it.
Like those two ears that Dre trusted most was his
you know with everything. Remember he just came off of
the easy Alm in w A. I'm when he wrote
all of that ship. He wrote a lot of that
n Niggers for Life ship, listen to them styles and

(49:49):
all that always into something all that. So he was
Dre's most trusted here and he was a vected So
were trying to impress DC. And then once we impressed DALC,
and he would work with us accordingly like and then
I attracted to him more because I moved in with DC.
Was like he became like my real sense, and everybody
else was like not under us, but they were like

(50:11):
playing their roles accordingly, like Corrupt was like the assassin.
Raised was like the hard female Jewels had the singing vocals.
Nick darg would come in with the hook. But that's
what Dr Dre. It was like Phil Jackson, like a
great coach that can take everybody on the team and
make them valuable, Like everybody was valuable. Wasn't nobody more

(50:32):
valuable than nobody? He made everybody valuable. When that song
came on with Nate's voice, you loved it. When he
came on with Dad's voice, you loved it. When it
came on Corrupt, you loved it. When it came on
with me. You loved it because he he knew how
to put everybody in position to make them strong. And
to me that that was the strength of the team.
That Dr Dre was the visionary, Like it wasn't us.

(50:53):
We just was raw, you know what I'm saying, Just
a bunch of raw motherfucker's that was bringing it to
the table. But he had to clean the table up
and set the table, prepare the meal, you know. When
he knew what people like, so he had the ingredients
to put it all together. He knew what the rock
was that was a diamond. We didn't know. We just
was rocks trying to you know, click Like it was

(51:14):
the sixteen songs that make up the Chronic. I mean,
were those the only the specific sixth team that you
worked on or was it was the Chronic like a
combination of forty or fifty songs worked on and then
we'll pick the best of the lot, and this is
the album. I said. It was probably twenty five songs,
like the most. There was one song that we really

(51:36):
liked that didn't make it was called Whole Hopper. I
really wanted it on there. It went like, you know,
I like bussy, so you can call me your how
So here's the name I go by when I'm rolling around,
the whole Hopper. Tell your friends, bitch, I give it
to your smooth whole. Can't you see then when you

(51:57):
need some dick, bitch called on me the whole high
But tell your friends all your friends bit on that one.
Why did that not make the I don't know, We'll
see we're stuck around. Dr Dre was on some real ship,

(52:19):
like he would let us make any kind of song.
We won't who would write the hooks? Because the thing
that I didn't appreciate until much later, it was just
how effortless you guys were with hooks and b parts,
like even parts that weren't the hooks. You can take

(52:39):
any four bars out of g thing and that to
be a hook for another song. Right, So I never
until we started until like you know, writer's block catches
and you realize, like how effortless that should sounds. So
it's like, how, I don't know how I think the
thing was us When he came to like that kind

(53:02):
of ship, we just went, we just threw it in
the air. And then, like I said, that's when it
was people like Dre who knew how to take it
because bitches ain't shipped but holes and tricks. That was
Corrupt first. That was the start of his verse. His
verse started like that it just ain't ship with holes
and trick. No no, no no, no, no, no, no no no no,
and make it to the store. And Dr Dre said, noah, nigger,

(53:25):
that's the hook, and he made bitches they ship but
holes and tricks. Bitches ain't ship but holes and tricks.
So it's like Corrupt wrote the hook, but then nor
was a hook. You get what I'm saying, Like, that's
what our ship was so good to where we would
always right the hook within the song, where it was

(53:47):
somebody's job to find that, Like we didn't know that
all the time, Like we didn't know that, damn this
was the hook. But Nate Dogg and Joe Wells are
probably the only ones that knew what the hook was
because they was definitely writing for the hook. But everybody
us was just right and then they were coming and
it certain times it was fit like certain songs and

(54:09):
motherfucker just it just fit in place. Was it a
certain time? We we talked last night. We've had a
couple of people on the show that always talked about
the night of the Source Awards, And one thing I
was always curious just to hear from you, like what
was going through your mind, like when you got on stage.
My I remember watching it because at the time I

(54:30):
was like, this is what nanny I was. I was
a fifteen and sixth thing, and like I watched it.
And so then the next day everybody, you know, we're
in high school rounding lunch takement ship, and so everybody
was like, well man, Snoop, I can't believe, like he
was so mad, like that's the funk what Snoop said
and me always looked at it is, I said, but
I don't know if it's necessarily a guys. I think

(54:50):
maybe anger, I said, But man, yeah, give them misrespect.
I said, come on, man, I said, each and every
one of us got dog style, and I waltman right now,
like everybody's bumping this ship like we love the snigger.
How I imagine how funked up it feels to be
a dude that is respecting to all the hip hop
making incredible fucking records and you come to the place
that you got so much reference for and they piss

(55:11):
on you. I said, Man, that's like for real, you
know what I mean? So I was always curious to hear,
like what was going through your mind when you know
you got no love was new Dog? Well, I was
in the moment. The moment was more about what Sugar said.
It wasn't about nothing else but that because New York
respected us, and they respected me, and they gave me

(55:32):
that because I gave him that. I came in the
game saying that this is the mecha and I respect
and appreciate everybody before me. When I met him a
bow down, I treat him with love and respect. So
it was a feeling was mutual when I spoke, because
I just speak from a point of view of I
want to funk y'all up. I spoke from the perspective
of we know where we had. Nobody should get fucked

(55:53):
up based off of the fact that we all gangsters
in there. So what we got to prove is we
know where we at, we know where we're from. This
ain't the time and place for that. It was some
dialogue that was needed. It wasn't playing, It wasn't It
just was needed. And my calling, you know what I'm saying,

(56:13):
Like to me, that was my calling, like this your moment,
Dog was to step into that role of being a
leader and being a role model, being a piece advocate
for hip hop that you're going to end up being
ten years from that day, because twenty years after that day,
me and Dr Dre was on stage at that same
building doing the show and Puffy was there too, and

(56:36):
we all performed together, and then we were just thinking
back of how it was based off of comments and
small ship, but we always loved each other but we
never could show it because the bullshit we had steeped
out on like not too long ago. And he kind
of echoed what you said. He was like, man with
Snoop got up there, he said, you actually kind of

(56:57):
called things that a little bit like if you didn't something,
if I didn't say nothing, some er, some niggas would
have died that night. Nas Na said it perfectly on
the Fighting Ones. He said something to the fact that
you know, when Snoop got up there, he said the

(57:17):
right ship because at that point, when they first got there,
it was New York first New York. It was Borrow
first Burrow, and when Shui said what he said, he
made it New York first them niggers. And then when
Snoop got up there and said what he said, a
lot of New York niggers had love for Snoop and
just couldn't see theirselves just taking off on him for

(57:38):
something that this niggas said. So it was like it
was it was that deep and that detrimental because he
was real street niggas. He wasn't like record label executives
or managers, are agents or the production guys. This was
the niggas that nigga just got out. He just got
out fifteen minutes ago. He'd been in twenty years. He

(58:01):
ain't got no money. He's looking to do something so
he can get on the pay roll. Like everybody had
forty and the niggas with them. Like, imagine that time
in the early nineties, how hip hop was when you
had to have a hunter niggas entourage. That just was
part of how you was, like whether you want it
or not. Like even the Roots had a hunting niggas
with them. We couldn't afford that. But when you have

(58:24):
a large entourage, hotel bills front, Like, how are y'all
y'all were touring during that period, how are y'all handling
just the basic ship rights? My first fifteen years of touring,
I can say this, and I ain't ashamed to say,
I probably made like fent of my tour money because

(58:48):
of everything you have to cover as far as hotels.
Pent of my tour money is what I made my
first fifteen years because I would have thirty niggas on
the road, everybody was getting paid and this and that,
and then I wouldn't look back until the end of it,
and they'd be like, well, you you uh, you grossed

(59:08):
this amount and you netted this amount, and well, god
damn everybody on tour and enjoying life except men. It's
a business man. I gotta I gotta jump to the
real white elephant in the room, which to me is

(59:29):
the dog Father. Okay, I gotta dump to that. Do
you do you feel that the dog Father has gotten
this proper just due respect, because for some reason, I
don't think the world realizes how incredible that ship was
when it came out, and the fact that it's still

(59:52):
timeless late, like you know, was it twenty years later?
It was s yeah, like what what are your personal
opinions on your follow up? When I first came out
with it, I was getting a lot of hate, a
lot of like, oh it ain't Doggie Style, Drain do this,

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and why it ain't and this and that. And he
used to funk with me a little bit, and then
I used to go out and do shows, and then
fans would bring me the album to sign, like you
know what I'm saying, Like that's a cold twist when
they like Nick is talking about you. But then a
fan bring three copies of Doggy Style and two copies
of dog Father and say can you sign these? And

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you signed these and I'm looking like, damn if I'm
signing Dogfire. I mean they bought it. And then I
started doing songs from The dog Father on stage, Snoops,
upside your Head, big fucking record, Charlie Wilson start rolling
with me. Me and Charlie became like this. So it
was blessings that came out of that that they was
making happen and didn't even know that they was making happen.
Then we went overseas to Europe and I toured in

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Europe and the record was so big over there to
where it's like it solidified me as an artist that
was gonna be here on the follow up tip. So
it's just in America where it was a lot of
not covering it the right way of saying the right things.
And remember Biggie I got killed, Tupocket got killed, bigg
Eas ALBUMA came out, Tupac's Albuman came out. So they

(01:01:18):
just drowned me out on some this nigga gangbanging no more.
He just be the murder case. He's a family man. Now,
he's soft, Now he'd be happy. Now look at he
rapping about happy ship. Dog He's man had a song
called Doggie land that was a song about peace, love
and nobody dying and just a beautiful record that was
about Doggie landing. Nigga didn't understand that, Like, Nigga, that's soft, Nigga,

(01:01:39):
Like what living life is soft? Like I don't need
to be with you niggas if y'all death is cool, Nigga,
nigg I'm gonna die, Nigga. That ship hard, Nigga, How
you gonna die? I'm gonna go to blaze of bullet Nigga.
The hard, but Nigga like a Waston movie funk that
nig I don't want to die Nigga sipping on some coffee.
Nigga land and bid not hisself eighty years old? You

(01:02:00):
know what I'm saying me? What was it like? Uh?
I was always curious to know the transition from death
row to no limit and like being with being under
somebody like shoebersus, somebody like p What was he like
as a businessman? Um Sugar was a great business man
first and foremost. Let me say that, very strong, very
shrewd got to it like you do it. Um did

(01:02:22):
a lot of things that was, you know, groundbreaking for
the industry that I see a lot of niggas doing now.
But when I got with master P, he was more
of a m He was a finesser, like I want
to shake hands with him, pumped shoulders with him, do
business with him, be executive. I want to own ship.
I want to be a part of the executive branch

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and not just you know, employees side of it. And
then he passed it on. You know, he was one
of those informative guys that hey, put this in your name. Hey,
get your bank account, Hey, get you some credit cards,
Hey get you some property, Hey get you some nests,
like get your record label, get you some clothing, a
clothing line. Like all the ship I did was by

(01:03:05):
being with him. He showed me how to do and
I went. And don't be afraid they laughed at him
in the beginning. They used to laugh at him. I
used to watch him laugh, laugh, laugh. Then when I
signed with no limit, like I'm not saying, I made
the laughs go away. But all the laugh was gone
after that. And like this nigger really is a businessman.

(01:03:27):
He really shop because my first album with them paid
the costs to be the Boss, two million records in America,
two million records overseas. Then we put out a movie
called The Game of Life and he sold it for
and they sold two million copies. You do the fucking maths,
and he made all the fucking money. What no middleman?

(01:03:47):
None of that was to think about Master, and nobody
really re emphasized one no rap and won no money.
A rapper to No Limit came And I say that honestly,
when no rappers making no money and to No Limit
niggas was getting crumbs and a little bit negotiating and
fighting with record labels and artists and management. Master he
cut all that ship out. He was the what should
should have been the less violent, more business approach, and

(01:04:09):
he shared information. Yes, all of the above. You know
what I'm saying, Like, come on, man, from the time
that you went from because after you did the three
records on No Limit and then three album deal five
million dollars, I can say that now respectfully, but you know,
I'm like, I wanted to put that contract out there
so in case you niggers want to new three album do,

(01:04:32):
it's gonna be way more than that now. I mean,
I like, let me talk about the records get better
for you as I got him. Know, they got absolutely
the first one I didn't. I was like, right, but
no limits, talk to the last meal, you see it.
But you know when my mind stayed was was there?
I started grabbing my mind state the first record. You
know what I did? I said, pe do with me

(01:04:53):
whatever you want to do. Nigga, I'm dr. I'm Dr
Frankenstein and I'm gona lay on the table let. You
go ahead and put me together the way you think.
Because you're hot right now. And this is your label.
When you got Snoop Dogg as your artists, Nigger, go
to work. You just paid for this, Nigger, it's gonna
be your record forever. You gotta Snoop Dogg record. My
third solo record is George so he did it second record.

(01:05:13):
I was like, all right, I got the George stick back. Yeah,
I'm going back to the West man, Okay, speaking to
joy Stick the two and three albums, why is that
not out? Like on streaming? Whatever? Man, we didn't get
no love for the two on three album. Man, We
Warringey pushed that ship so hard. I don't know what
I love that love? Man. My only girl mother gotta

(01:05:36):
find a way. You gotta yes, man, I don't know,
I don't know what goes on with And then I'm
watching music nowadays like that's a hit. He said the
same thing. Oh my god, did they when you end
up doing I'm jumping to your uh well, first I

(01:05:58):
want to go to your snoop line record. Um what
moved you in that direction? Like what was going on
in your life at that time that made you want
to go there? Man? Um, I just love reggae music.
And I was like, you know what, every time I
go to Jamaica, always just go to my room, smoke
weed and do the show and leave. I never get

(01:06:19):
to explore Jamaica, never get to see it like funk
that I want to see Jamaica because these niggas love
me over here and I love him. So I said,
I'm gonna set up a trip. I'm gonna go over
there for thirty days and just live over there, get
with some producers called up Diplo, Major Laser. Look y'all
gonna do my whole record called The Vice. Vice was
a magazine company at the time that was creating content,

(01:06:41):
and I was like, look, I want you to come
shoot this ship from me because I like, how y'all
be doing on location ship in dangerous neighborhoods and dangerous areas.
And this ship is dangerous because Chris Cooke. It just
went to jail, which was due to So I said,
I want to go meet that nigga family. I want
to nigg I went up. They took me everywhere and
so by me going all into these areas, which this
is the real nigger that I am. I love to explore.

(01:07:03):
I go to the Nibini Temple and when I go there,
the spirit is in me. I can't even fake it.
When I walked into temple, it's a ladybump ninety years old.
Soon as I walked in, she liked, the prodigal son
has returned. I don't even know what she's saying. Well,
she like, the prodigal son has returned. The prodigal son
has returned. I don't even know what this means. At

(01:07:24):
the time, she grabbed me by my hands and she
started praying with me, and they like, the whole room
just collapsed on me, like it just it was crazy
for me. It's crazy as the whole spirit. And we
walked around the fire. The fire was burning. Me and
my wife were holding hands. Long story short. When we leave,
my wife didn't eat no meat from that day when
I was two thousand ten, from that damn and I

(01:07:48):
took on a new peaceful approach. I ain't been in
tool with no niggas. Ain't got it. You know what
I'm saying like, and that's she used to always come on, man,
I'm waking. It is led to your guys. First, let
me just say the guys, a record is jamming. THAT'SHI
jamming like a mothercker. I don't know about to say
that match, but think that this is hard. And but

(01:08:15):
the thing I liked about this is that's like you
got like real You got the real ji like you
had rants Alan on the ship. And I mean that's like,
how did you put all that together? First of all,
shout out to my homeboy, Lonnie Lonnie Barrel. He was
one of the main instruments to put in this project together. Um,
I had a dream and a wish list making my

(01:08:35):
grandmother proud of me. My grandmother was here. She would always,
you know, talk to her friends and people about me.
She could never talk about my music, and I always
wanted to make something that she could be proud of
that she could hear and that her friends or church
friends could really you know, be proud of so and
she passed away. I was like, you know, that's my mission.
I've been always talking about doing it. I'm just gonna

(01:08:56):
do it. And I just went in there and did
it and started all and all of the people that
I wanted to be on it and expressed to them
why I wanted them on it, what I was doing,
and they already loved my spirit as I before that.
It wasn't like, oh, we're gonna do it now, we've
been following when you brother, we've been with you. You know,
we got you what you need. I need uh, I
need you just saying someone their brother rans Clark Suster,

(01:09:20):
I need you to do something there, Kimberwell, when you
do something a friend Hammond John p Key, Yeah, Yeah,
it was incredible. And seeing it at the Essence Festival
that knocked me out. That was I felt like something
was the right moment for that. That was the best
thing I've ever seen. That was amazing. Moment. Brother, we
think we gotta wrap up. I was not check, let's

(01:09:42):
do tim all manutes all right? We did. I was
just you know, we was getting the rap rap, y'all
doing good. I like when the ship is good, I
break rules, thank you, thank you, Essential seduction. Yes, that's
one of the I want to say, you have one

(01:10:03):
of the only like rap records or records in hip
hop that I like the clean version better than I like.
But yeah, so talk about that record because the cat
did that red. He was so talented man, and um,

(01:10:24):
he did like a lot of ships to Jez and
he was on from Gangster ship. He was like one
of the gangster producers, right, so, um, he's one of
my little nephews. And he was like, uh, I got
a song, but it ain't gangster and I think I
think it's I thank it's for you. And he played
it for me and he was he was he was
doing everything that I was doing, but he wasn't like

(01:10:45):
he didn't put that thing on it, just like just
laid it. And I was like, I'm gonna put that
tea pain on it, but I ain't gonna put all
of that teeth pain. I'm gonna put a little trip
of tea pain with my real voice. Didn't gonna put
like a vote quota and twisting Miss White for that
one when you're hearing he ain't too row body like them,
because I didn't want to sound like everybody that sounds
like auto tone. I wanted some of my voice to

(01:11:08):
overwhelm the auto tune because I feel like I got
a nice voice that could blend with that, and that
was the key. And then watch this when I do it,
I take it to the label and that's some motherfucking
white boy up there, and he liked, let me mix it.
Don't know, He's like, Nick, let me mix this, motherfucker,

(01:11:31):
I know what they needs. Give it here. But we
kind of clashed for a minute, and I end up
letting me mix it. Right when he mix it, I
called him. I'm like, man, you're a bad motherfucker. Motherfucker.
Name't Ron fair Rock Wait, oh my god, that was
the last name question you gotta Are you dealing with
Snoop Dog, You're dealing with ignorant as Snoop Dog. You're

(01:11:54):
dealing with your nigger right now? To hey, okay, you're
you're sure whatever you're doing, NA tell me how motherfucking
mixed my song the way the way you built it up.
It's just that we had a few episodes where Ron's
names come up, and it wasn't and it wasn't too savory.
So he was like Ron Fair. I was like, oh God, yes,
he's haunting us. Yes, And that nigga mixed the Ship

(01:12:15):
out of it, the dog shit out of it because
I could play the mix before he mixed it. He
made it a big record Like the Ship that he
did was just making my voice in the music and
the way right because it fooled everybody when we heard it.
My jaw dropped like that go hard. It was an
instant classic. Yeah, that was on the record that I

(01:12:36):
think for Real? Was that a record for Real produced?
There was that ego tripping that was okay? That was me,
Teddy Riley and Quick Yeah on that record. Was not
on that record? You work like me? He was naster Ship.
How did y'all hook up? Man? Because he's Virginia and
so that's something about me and Virginia. I got a

(01:12:59):
real bond with you with Virginia. Man, I funk with
the Virginia cry. I don't know why how, but it's
just like we just magical when we together. It's been
like that from Timberland and for Real to not even
the nigger drum like Teddy Riley, Like I just fox
with it like and then and I never looked forward.
It was like, oh, I'm gonna focus on Niga Virginia.

(01:13:19):
This ship just fall in place like that, Like it
just happens like that. And every time it happened like that,
it's like it's a magical ship. And then I find
out this nigga fun Virginia too. It's something the water man,
y'all cold man. Yeah. You also add like the only
for a long time you had the only D'Angelo feature,
The imagine that the imagine of shut out to shout

(01:13:43):
out to Angie Stone, Oh my god, going to getting
because y'all don't understand how hard it was to get
person stories. I'm gonna tell nellion number. So we called it.

(01:14:03):
They can write. Everybody is scared to call them. Can't
be motherfucking phone degelo. Yeah, like, hey, nigga, this snoop
nig I need them vocals because it's already wrote pool
Beard and wrote the ship. All you gotta do is
just saying that ship. Nick, understand me, and you're gonna
be there with you. She take him to the studio.
He listened to what he liked to go to the

(01:14:23):
car and she called back. He left whoa Break You Off?
Part two? Next day he comes in, he sings two
lines and then he leaves what you should be here?
Fourth day, Pool Beard, go sing all of that ship
and hand that nigga up under you, and we're gonna

(01:14:44):
blame your voice together because this nigga keep ripping and running.
You're serious, listen to it? Wow, it's him on Scott
Stories that one. Okay, he used to write for just
to be Yeah, but that was but you know I
had to me and my conversation with him, and then
Angie she pulled it all together. Like that's why I

(01:15:06):
gotta give her a shout out because she was instrumental.
I'm going to get him and fing to make it happening,
like she was really a soldier, you understand me, Like,
going to make it happen. Man, what year is that?
Two thousand three? Yeah, two thousand six the album came out.
Yeah that that sounds just about right, man, Like you
have to well, you know, rop your story right, Yes, Yeah,

(01:15:31):
physically got on the plane to knocked on his door,
grabbed to make him come to the video shoot. Every
generation needs one it's fine, fine, that's fine. Whoever several
thousand private jet, whoever d is. Every generation needs one,
is all I'm saying. And then I just feel good.

(01:15:54):
Story Me, Biggie, Puffy, a couple of my cousins. We're
in New York for as a little concert supposed to
get on it na M well that that we out
there still smoking one in the morning. Me and Biggie
fall asleep. The nigga finally hit the stage and do
five songs and leave didn't even do them when I liked,

(01:16:20):
that's just stick. It didn't do that, fine neck, you
didn't do Yeah, what's it like? You work? It's a
number one of my home ways. You work with a
lot the non porter twelve like me and Detroit got
a cold question, cold cold twist two then no, I like,
I just covered him off for like niggers not taking

(01:16:42):
his beats Like he's the nigg on the sideline and
I'm listening to that nigga beats like, oh, they don't
want that, they don't want that. He didn't want that.
Get here and you can still on the hook, nigger.
You know what I like the guy am I ain't
kindt bit all man it sound awesome if we can
get all Chris Brown and may be German headed singer. Right,
you saw me stay and then we're gonna see if

(01:17:05):
you can become something Ni. Yeah, hurt him and my
girl tone Treasure, what Ni I got hits with her,
he around the world hits she go, go, Go, go go.
That is one of the most talented females I've ever
worked with in the studio. Yeah, So where you at

(01:17:25):
musically right now? Because you've ben't done pretty much everything
I think of my head? Have you done country? I
couldn't remember. I feel like you have record, I mean
a bluegrass I can see that. I don't like where
you at when I have a couple of things that
I'm working on. Blue Grass has a lot of connotation.
Do I like that you gotta come to North Carolina

(01:17:51):
to do that? May happen? Well right now, I just
finished the EP with Davies with a nice little EP together,
east Side Stories Ship Well Dame thing too. I was
thinking you said East Stories the east Siders. Yeah, oh yeah,
tradey God, Look I got I got a new single

(01:18:12):
that I just did for them for to meet the
Blacks to soundtrack. I may want to play it for
y'all in the studio. Let y'all get a whiper. But
it's gonna be the lead single Offer to Meet the
Blacks to soundtrack produced by battle Cat. Yes, Yo, Okay,
that's what I mean. He keep talking, man, I'm looking out.

(01:18:39):
I pushed pauls on it. Don't want about dud Away
because I'm scared of that talk about battle He is
just another one of those dudes that just song hero like.
Battle Cat is like Dr Dre on Steroid Wars to me,

(01:19:01):
because you know, he's always been that that that spot
to fill in the blank when Dre is on hiatus
for making music, Battlecat always feeling the blank spots with
some good music, that feel good, that got great bottom,
that's got great musical arrangement, nice singing. So it's like,
you know, he feels in the blank. And he does
this part because he is a part of Uncle Jam's army.
So he's been around since to get around and he

(01:19:23):
produced Domino's first album. We were talking about that earlier,
that East Side. We did that at my house and
clare Mount like that's when we used to make records
in my living room, like on some real ship, like
Trading and Goldie Lope from two different neighborhoods, Goldie from
my neighborhood twenty Crip and Tradey from that Sane and

(01:19:43):
we all started together when the fresh Fest was happening.
We was all together. Then an incident happened where they separated,
and this was like us bringing it back together again
on the music tip and putting the hood back together.
So when we put the East Side of together, there
was a movement in the streets that really was the
real movement on we ain't killing each other no more.

(01:20:06):
You please tell me there is an unreleased album or
something coming out. Brother? Where is LaToya? Brother? Frankment just
passed away, resting piece that was like the closest thing
to her. Like I always said, I never made a
record with a wreathing, but I made a record with
a reath of spirit, Toy, Like, I don't know, man,

(01:20:27):
I don't know what she on right now. I love
her voice. I really love to see if she liked
to get back in the studio again. So if you're listening, Toy,
we'd love for you to come back in and yeah,
her and Naz is doing something for a little bit.
And then I don't know whatever came the follow through.
Some some people don't have that follow through. You know
what I'm saying. It takes the team to make sure
that you got the whole follow Oh okay, So the

(01:20:52):
record of it was on the Snoops, it was the
compilation record the dog House Records complition. Wasn't that one
doing with tru Bo? Oh trouble trouble? Guess where you're from? Virginia, Nigga,
Guess why I met him? Man? Nigga got seven eleven.
It was snow on my night. Wait, nigga, it was

(01:21:15):
snow on one night and they got seven eleven. Nigga
and I get out the little van and go buy
me some about the store right in Virginia. And Nigga like,
I got the CD. Man, I make music, Like, let
me hear this motherfucker. I said, if it's whack, and
I'm gonna slang that motherfucker on the freeway getting the van,
were riding. This nigga should sound good. This nigga got
arrangement and this nigga got toned. And I'm like, Nigga,

(01:21:38):
I call it nigga like nigga Yoshi hard. Nigga, Let
me let me buy that song. So I bought that
song Trouble and put it on my ship. And then
we made a couple of songs. We did one called uh,
just get carried Away. Oh that's what I'm seeing that
my uncle real? Oh wow, okay, yep. That was another.
It was on that album you had. It was the

(01:22:00):
Trouble record and it was somebody else. Um, god man,
who was on that record? I used to I used
to play the hell out of that album. It was
another cat that you've oh trip super Fly, what's the
one with him? He got a song right now and
meet the black sound track that's called Past the Sticks.
I'd like to play that for y'all. What does it
come out? The soundtrack went up next month, the next

(01:22:23):
month to be out right after. It's Um, it's not.
I don't know he was. I think he was one
Joe Dreys camp, but no turnal is he still? What's
what I heard from him? In a minute? Yeah he
was what with the circle? You know he was in
the Crow, but I ain't heard from him in a minute.
You know, this is the wild West. You got to
stay in it to winning. I just asked, at what

(01:22:46):
point in your career did you know that you could
sell things to all of America? Like it was a
point where you crossed over people, Yeah, to white people
with how did you get Martha Stewart's trusty start? But yeah,
but it was before all of that though, it was
before Martha Stewart. It's been for a while now you've

(01:23:08):
been in. The charisma goes a long way, like most
charismatic people aren't talented. But it must have been. It
must have been a point though where you were like, ship,
look at this. I mean, they're paying attention and they're
gonna let me sell this to everybody. You know. Whatever
it was, it's like you don't never realize until it
actually happens, Like because you don't nobody really watches they

(01:23:30):
highlights while they're playing the game, you know, like true superstars.
They don't really you know, look at that. They're too
busy trying to get more highlights. And then at the
end of the day, then I'll be able to look
back and say, Wow, I didn't realize I was doing X, Y,
and Z. Right now, I'm just doing me and all
the opportunities that that happened to fall my diression. I

(01:23:51):
try to make the most of them and try to
put things together that we're gonna be here for the future.
I had like stages of my life when I didn't
really give a funk about the future, and I feel
like those moments are see minute and they mean a
lot because they helped raise people and they helped cement
who I was and how I'm supposed to do it.
And then it stages in my life was like, I
gotta mean something. I gotta like give some information and

(01:24:12):
direction because now I'm on the on the level of
one who has that and I shouldn't be selfish and
try to keep it to myself. How long did Junifer
Real work on the Bush album? I love that recommending,
like I don't know what Bruno mars album. It sounds
just like now I'm that sound like a dispruntled niggonomous

(01:24:35):
fun the words now Bruno More. Shout out to Bruno
for writing A Young, Wild and Free and not want
no credit. Oh he wrote that one. Wow. Mmm, he
was going through some things judicially, So we worked it
out to where I wrote it and you know he
wrote it and wait, we did that together. Yeah, you
came to the show. It was Bruno. Back when I

(01:24:57):
knew who Bruno was. Brun know you and Sequest I
forgot every nigger, Yeah, I forgot. It's like, what's your name? Bruno? Okay,
would not look at him? Who are you? Nigga? Who
is your exactly? On the California roll joint with Stevie,

(01:25:20):
watch this, Watch this moment. I gotta tell you the
moment first. So we're up there with the music right.
First of all, he made the song the schoolboy Q
school Boy school Boy you did that morning was for
like a remix or something he didn't morning I heard.
I was like, I need that that ship hard give
me that, I'm a saying, and I'm gonna have my
nigga James Fundroy right my verses. So that way, I

(01:25:41):
got some some melody about it. So then I'm listening
to for Rel saying. I'm like, so now we're in
the studio, I'm smoking. I'm like, we need to get
Stevie one on this motherfucker Like you got his number? Like, yeah,
I got the nigga number. Nigger hole, Stevie. What's having it? Hey? Hey,
I need you at just studio. Nigga. What you're doing? Man,
I gotta hit record with me. And for real, I'll

(01:26:03):
be right there. Stevie comes to the studio. Now, mind
you me in for real. In the studio, we're smoking.
He ain't smoking, but we're smoking. And he right next
to us smoking him out the funk out. So now
Stevie get there, right. So Stevie listening to the record
in the in the in the room with us. Then

(01:26:23):
he going to booth. So he and there and the
saying he got his hairdphones on. He's singing, and I'm like,
for real, tell him what to do? And for real,
life hid because Stevie been in there for five minutes.
Cause you ain't told cul nothing. He's just sitting in
the booth like five minutes. I'm like, first of all,
somebody need to go in there for that nigga fall.

(01:26:48):
So he don't say nothing. I'm like, tell the nigga,
what the dude? Because so he don't say nothing. So
he pushed a little thing. I said, Stevie for real
said sing on on this part and sing on that part.
So he started singing. Need he doing this thing? And
I'm like, for real, tell the nigga, cause I just
say't my expertise, I don't do all that but niggas
a sing I just sit back and watch nigga you
posted telling to do the runs and just this nigga

(01:27:10):
for real, just sitting there stuff some of the coaches. Stevie,
I'm like, I know for then this sol alright, Stephen,
when you get you this party to go? Um? And
then Steve did you bring your harmonica? Wow? Did you
bring it? Pull it out? Alright, Steve, you just play
anything you want. When for Real gets sober, we're gonna

(01:27:31):
take the best parts. And that's how that motherucking song
came about. I ain't making this ship up. I love
it right, Yeah, I love it too. Thank you, Thank you.
You can I ask one week question? Okay, yeah, because
I got a few, So listen. First of all, I'm
like a black woman asked one week question because I

(01:27:52):
got a few. Well, I want to go back to
my road call because I was serious about this question
because it's been like some documentaries and some studies and whatnot,
and I wanted to know your opinion on what people
are saying about the Indica versus the Tiva and saying
that it's it's all bullshit, Like where are you that? Well?
I think that Sativa is for certain people and indicates
for certain people that's whatever you make is. It's like
some people like Jim, some people like uh whiskey, some

(01:28:14):
people like bring it down to like a kindergarten, to
a kind of Indica is for the aggressive, for the
ones like myself, the ones who've been doing it for
a long time, we need like a high tolerance, who're
looking for the highest level of getting there. Sativa is
more of a female relaxation. You know, I never heard

(01:28:36):
it described. I don't see a lot of niggas that
be like you want to hit this tva so fast?
You got a flower with that tunni. But the word
is that it's not real. The concept is not real.
That's what I was saying. The word is that the
concept is not real and it's bullshit. So that that

(01:28:57):
is very real. Because they're two different and strange, they're
two different. How would I explain that, Frank? What are
they two different ways? Say I want to make you
want to go to sleep, the other one who keep
you up eating? Yeah, it's like it's like like a
relaxed like Sativa is more like connected with medical you know,

(01:29:18):
because it's the yeah exactly, and then the uh the
endicas like the party ship where all the rappers and
you know what I'm saying, the high energy and you
got ship to do when you're trying to get it done.
And you know what I'm saying, I've heard what I've
heard describe and I don't know if it's in different
strains within them, but like one is like a body
high and one is a bo a head high. So
which one would you recommend, like for pain, like for

(01:29:39):
like joints off writers that kind of ship, which one
works better for pain? You would have to be prescribed.
I'm gonna go to a real real You can go
to a real especially and go see a real doctor,
and then I'll tell you exactly what rub some tossing
on it? Are you? Are you looking to get into
the dispensary games? That's what I was not that you.

(01:30:00):
That's what I was gonna say. How invested are you
in that? In that game? Premium nutrients, That's what I
was going to think about that side. Man, Just think
about what a nutrient is. The nutrient is what you
need to grow the so everyone who grows flowers, hear me,

(01:30:21):
I don't know some genes you was gonna drops I
don't want to be at player stadium. You don't want
to be the grass that they're playing on man every night,
play the game without grass. But just wow, you just
give me food for thought. Yeah, go that direction, you

(01:30:43):
know what I'm saying, because everybody can now trying to
everybody because it's a racehorse to get to the pinnacle
of I got the best product. I'm doing this. I'm
in this industry. But it's like alcohol. This probably happened
when alcohol was prohibition. When it became ever legal, it
was probably sixteen seventeen different brands that was competing, and

(01:31:04):
then there were seguams and there was you know, sertain
my Fucker's that just pushed out the way like they
were just four exactly like, ain't nothing happening. Y'all can't
funk with this because we're thinking way further than y'all.
Card is better and we do it better. Can you
advise for the middleman? Because literally, my my mother was
like she really wants to invest in the marijuana industry,
and Mama, now let me give me a few dollars.

(01:31:24):
I give us. Okay, all right, I got you all ready.
Your mama double up back to get it going, Yeah,
I got asked bones, Yeah, what was it like shooting
at when I, um, when I got the role Ernest Dickerson,
he was like, um, Pam Grier signed on and I

(01:31:45):
was like, yeah, you know, I'm cool as motherfucker. Yeah.
So he like, I got you all flight together there,
y'all gonna fly in So that way y'all can you know,
get acquainted because there's a lot of scenes that y'all
got together. I'm like, all right, cool, damn gan through
this shit. Ni flying the frest go, She flying the
fresh go. I'm sitting down. She come behind me and
tapped me on the shoulder and I looked back and

(01:32:06):
I'm like, damn, caul this Pam. So I'm like looking
at her, give her a hug, and she like chopping
it up with me for a minute. I'm like, all right,
I go to the bathroom and they can just faint,
just fall out, boom, right on the floor. I'm late
on the floor for like five minutes. My security coming

(01:32:27):
like they get off this literally, nigga for real, metaphorically,
nig I got a heap niggas I've seen Pam. It's
like when I saw Janet Jackson Nigga went limp. Nigga's
gonna grab me off the floor. They're throwing water and
shot on Nigga. So I regroup and Nigga wore a flight.

(01:32:48):
We're sitting side by side the whole flight, Nigga, my
heart beating like ninetygo West, and she just chopping up
with me, just being so real. She makes me comfortable,
like this is one of the only motherfucker's ever been. Like,
are struck around because I'm like, I got scenes whatever,
I gotta catch her and I gotta so I'm getting
nervous and ship like. But then she like break me
all the way down and she like call your wife

(01:33:11):
for me when we land, and then she hid at
my wife when I land. I'm like, this is a
real fucking queen devil right here, you hear me? And
it just put me in his own where I was like,
all right, cool, And I went to set and then
Ricky Harris was there resting peace and he made my
job real easy because he had already been on many
movies sets and he was just like, Nigga killed this ship,

(01:33:33):
Nigga like we used to do. Nigga, fuck that nigga,
you know, give me that confidence like nig you the league,
nigg you start nig And it was like I needed that,
not in the cocky way, but I needed that enough
confident way. Talk about Ricky Man because I didn't really
know much about him, but I know he was. I mean,
we knew him from their comedy jam and like he
was like on all the skits he and the voice

(01:33:53):
from w Ball. Yeah man working with funny real serious. Uh.
Like My whole childhood was put him in church. His
father was the preacher of our church, Reverie Richard George
has the fund Um. Ricky was always athletic. He taught
me how to play quarterback nineteen seventy nine behind Reverend

(01:34:15):
Varne his house. He was funny in church. He was
he could sing, He was like all the all the
things that you see me doing, it had to be
somebody you've seen doing it first. He was probably the
first person I've seen doing the due you know, multitasking,
being funny, being a real, being an athlete, being this
being that, you know what I'm saying. So it was

(01:34:37):
like when he made it, we made it. Then he
got on ice Cube album first, and he was that
was y. I did not know that. So when I

(01:34:57):
hear that, I'm like, Nick, I need you on my ship,
nigga far radio station balls. He just handled it from there.
But like even from just being kids to us making it,
it was a comfort zone working with him, like whenever
I would have him around, like he would be a
lot of the writing, Like when I had my show
Doggy Fits All that ship, he was one of the writers,

(01:35:19):
and like I would always bring him to the job,
like to be one of the niggas behind the scenes
with that pain because he knew me, like a lot
of them writers in Hollywood didn't know me. They just
was writing bullshit. We think this would be funny if
you say this, and I need a nigg in the room,
But like that nig ain't gonna say that. You know
what I'm saying, Like you need that kind of my
fucking rule. Did you improvise the line fuck your fort

(01:35:42):
little nigga in Baby Boy? You know that ship wasn't yo.
That is like me and my boys we played mad
and Ship Whoever got Lost? And like, so thank you
for coding that. It's so much you've given to the game.

(01:36:06):
Every roots argument started with them. You know what I
was talking to Max Julian, Right, and that's my nigga
right here. I love him to death. Mack. So we're
talking about The MAC, right, He's like, yeah, man, you
know what, So Richard Man, we get to the set
of director, because the director was a white dude named
Michael Campus, You're like, yeah, so the white boy, you know,

(01:36:27):
trying to tell Richard what to do. Richard like, white boy,
you can't tell me a motherfucking thing. You mother, I
write my own motherfucking line, he said. So Richard did
all his lines. You know, he wrote his own ship.
You know, I couldn't tell him nothing. So when you
watched The Mac, know that that nigga, every line he
did in there was his. He wasn't having it. But

(01:36:49):
what was it likely with John Singleton? Man, how how
did it all go? Man? John is a dear friend,
even with us for a long time. He was like
always supportive of the two on three movement. He was
one of the people I really wanted to do a
two one three movie back in the days. Like he
was really into what we was doing. Remember he gave
one g that shot with you know, with the first thing. Yeah,

(01:37:10):
put him on. You know what, I'm saying, so working
with him is like it's so easy, but he's so professional.
So it's like you're getting you're getting your comfort zone.
But at the same time, this motherfucker's professional. You know
when he finished with you're gonna look amazing. You know
it's gonna be a part of something that's a story.
So you really want to follow his direction. A lot
of the things that we would would do. He would

(01:37:32):
give me direction and he would say, all right, I
want I want to shoot it my way, and then
I'm gonna shooting Joe way, Like what would Rotney do?
What would Rodney say? And then like he said, well
do it this way, say it like this, and then
I do it that way and be like all right,
I got that. Now what would Rodney say? Shit? Fuck

(01:37:53):
your fourth little nick? Any plans for your biopic of you?
Because everyone's doing their biopics. Now, that's what I wouldn't do.
I wouldn't do what everyone else do. Yeah, man, what happened? Okay?
The TUPOPO just the tupop Why did they have you
doing your own voice as the in the characters? You

(01:38:14):
think that's what is that? It sounds just like you.
I think it was printed somewhere about you post that
SEEO do can I asked a quick John single toon question.

(01:38:34):
I just wanted to know since you mentioned it, John,
I want to see what you thought about Snowfall. Franklin
is the ship, yes, but can you reality just Snoop Dogg,
just his train of thought? He's just the way he

(01:38:57):
This motherfucker is so Snoop Dogg. When watch him, I
wasn't watching in the beginning. I'm gonna be honest with you.
I wasn't watching him like I don't want to see
another fucking black chicken driving my eighties. I'm tired of that.
And I started watching that ship. I'm like, oh, I
had to go back and tape season one. Now I'm

(01:39:18):
in season two and I'm like, this nigga Franklin is
so motherfucking cold bloody. Would his spill his conversation like
he's so snooped or smart? And what do you it's
crazy because he's British, Like how you feel about that? Yes,
right now, he's so in the all eves of me.

(01:39:45):
That's not how did that happen? Because it sounds like
it was you doing the post. You have to act
the director and uh I found they like, hey, okay,
but I was saying about my fan. Okay, y'all was
asking about a Snoop dogg by Opick. I'm like, I
would never do that for the simple fact that it's

(01:40:06):
been done and I wouldn't want to do what everybody
else is doing. But there could be a serious sort
of kind of like knockos based on the life before
there and after, you know, from father in Vietnam, spoiler

(01:40:30):
your child hear me right, Like that makes more sense
for me as opposed to try to squeeze two hours
all of this ship that I'm doing and done and
try to make it, you know, worthy of you, understanding
and loving it and appreciating it and not offending anyone,
because I believe I would leave some things out if
I tried to buy right, you know how trying to

(01:40:54):
tell other people stories and right. I think it's better
that way. Solo. Can you give us some marriage STIPs?
Who we roll out? Man oh man, happy wife, happy life,
She's always right, You're always wrong. Compound name your company

(01:41:14):
and your compound after make sure that there's constant sufficient
funds in her account. True. Keep the girls to a
minimum at work, and after work, can you talk about
what you learned being a father to a daughter. M
That this world we live in is fast. These girls

(01:41:36):
are hot tailed and fast. Love showing the rumps and
putting their leg out, taking pictures and when makeup and
trying to be grown. Like you know, I remember when
it was the time when you was a teenager. You
wanted to be a teenager for a long time because
you you enjoy the moment of being a teenager. Now
it's like, I can't wait to not be a teenager

(01:41:56):
so I can be grown. And that's from not aged nine,
ten eleven to go to nineteen. You ain't going from
nineteen eleven, twelve thirteen no more. It was like, and
to have a girl so many influences and so many
girls that's doing at her age, younger than her, older
than her. So you just try to, you know, raise
them the right way and teach them to you know,
the ins and outs. But they have their own minds,

(01:42:17):
they do their own thing. You just try to make
sure that we did our part like me and boss
like he did our parties for it. Like I was saying,
it's only so much you can do when your kid
leaves the house, just like you can't overparent. You just
gotta do your job and pray that you did a
great job, and you know the results will be seen
in the near future. Who was some of the people
that you like when you and your wife will have

(01:42:38):
problems in your marriage or just you know, y'all have
hard times. Who was some of the people that you
could talk to to say like, Yo, I'm in this situation,
how can you help me? Like? Who was some of
the married couples or other couples of just old man
and the industry or whatever that you could actually talk
to about that kind of stuff. Uh? With me, it
was probably Charlie Wilson was probably the only one that
I can actually talk to for the simple fact that he, um,

(01:43:01):
he loved my wife, my kids. Uh, he loves me,
and my wife loved him and his wife and his family.
So it's like it's a mutual understanding. When he gets
involved and he ain't never gonna play to my side.
If I'm wrong, He's gonna shoot me down and tell me, nigga,
you're wrong with the motherfucker, get your ass home. I'm
gonna call and try to smoothe it over nigga. Hear
him get into the back door, nigga, hang up with him.

(01:43:23):
You know he wanted them kind of niggas. You know
what I'm saying, one of the uncles when you're like
this is a good ass nigga. R anybody else in
the game. Yeah, like that other than Charlie just catches
you could really you know, look up to and that
would like help you in that way or just anyway,
like career Rise, anybody that gave you good career advice.
I like ice cubes advice. Ice Cube is giving me
a lot of great advice, a lot of ship. He
told me to pass on. I was hard hitting in

(01:43:44):
the beginning because I like, Nick, I'm hot, Nick I'm
doing They want me to be in thirteen movies, King Nigga.
They want you to being Who's the man? Nigg Who's
the man for tun set your ass down there? You
know what I'm saying. Like, it's a couple of things
I did that I'm not, you know, too happy about that.
I should have took his advice. But as I got

(01:44:05):
older and started making better decisions, I could thank him
and say, well, you know what, ain't about the money snoke.
We got a whole bunch of money for you to
be in this garbage ass movie. This ship sucks cock,
but we're gonna pay you so much fucking money. It's
fucking horrible. That's basically what the nigga should say, you
know what I mean, That's what it boils down. I

(01:44:26):
was wondering if he was like your own brain trust
in that way, because you make some pretty awesome decisions.
That's that's what it's been for like the past ten years.
And I got a lot of that from like one
of the young nigga's fifty cent Like it was one
point in time where fifty men he was rolling together
and he was doing a lot of ship on his own.
Like it was sucking me up that I would always
have my people going there meeting this nigga would be

(01:44:47):
in the meeting. How this nigg in there and I'm
not in there? And and then certain ship he was doing,
he put me up on certain things, and I was like,
you know what, this nigga is smart, he brilliant, and
he passing information on and you know when I got
that information and I ran with it and don't mind
sharing the fact that I got it from me. Yeah,
what do you do um with your kids now? Because

(01:45:07):
how old? How old are you your kids? Though? Motherfucker's
is in the twenties. I am I just had a granddaughter.
I know I'm gonna graduate. I think I saw in
the bathroom. Her name's eleven, leven knock. You ain't even
in the regular name no more. Her name is Isabella.

(01:45:35):
It's eleven. But you know I'm grandpa level. Come in
backy come your grandpa. What's the significance? I ain't he
Max my son? You know? How do you ask the nick? What? So?
What was y'all thinking? When you know equal what happened? Was?
It was ten nine? What I was it? Uh? As

(01:46:01):
a as a dad? Like? You know what I'm saying,
being that you had so much success from your career
and you know your upbringing or your kids upbringing was
way different than yours. How did you, I guess how
did you navigate that? Being that you know how you
came up versus how your kids came up, but not
wanting to spoil them or and still wanting to be
able to, you know, find their only win in life.

(01:46:21):
Thank God for the snoop you football league, because my
football league was urban and it was them playing with
kids that came from urban communities, then building relationships and
then going to school with kids like that and learning
how to live within but without, And then me and
my wife would bring them to certain situations where they
could see this is where we grew up back, this
is where we lived at and walk around and look

(01:46:41):
aside this one bare room and like nigga, y'all got
a room that's yours, and we lived in the house
that was the size of your room. Like to appreciate,
to understand the fact that it's a struggle and it's
a hustle. We want you how to live better, but
don't take it for granted, because they can all be
took it away in this is where we come from.
We know how to adjust to it. If we have
to go back to him, y'all don't. So the best

(01:47:02):
thing you can do is prepare yourself and try to
do some things that when you're not connected to my thing,
but create your own thing, it's gonna be. They didn't
understand it, but I think as as time goes on,
they get it. And I'm gonna do what the real
people do. I'm gonna make sure my family tied into
my business. So I'm gonna make sure they're gonna learn
this ship one way at other. Well, Uncle Snoop, we
thank you for your y s age advice. We gotta

(01:47:25):
wrap up even though we got more questions. Can I
thank you for what for the Hall of the Sisters,
for what you said on the view, because you know,
we like forwarded that like fifty times, watched it again
and again and again and again and again and put
it on when he was asked about what he was
asked about Kanye, and he basically said that he needed
a good black women beside him, and that's what's wrong

(01:47:46):
with him. You ain't never leaving Kanye. I was just
saying I reposted a John, so thank you. It was
true and it didn't mean like a lover, which just
means somebody was stability that he needed. It was no
one around We understood what you mean, whether it was
a sister, whether it was whatever flowing flying in the days.

(01:48:09):
She coming straight over here. Let me know when you
get here, like scared when coming bring yours out here. Man,
We thank you thank you for everything. Just thank you.
Come on, man, so just watching your journey. It's just
up for over these years, it's been it's been a
great and seeing what you've built here at this compound,

(01:48:29):
and it's like you don't want to go life goals
and you're one of the people I tell my kids
just the story of like innovation and like how long
is my older son he likes rhyming. You want to
wrap and stuff and I'm just like, man, but you
look at a cat like snoop, it's like killing it
now to know where he came from. And let your
son know I was weak once upon a time. I
wasn't It wasn't great. I was weak and I had

(01:48:53):
to get better. I knew I was weak, you know
what I'm saying. That's the thing when you're waking, you
know you're weak. Are you gonna accept it or you're
gonna get better? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, do
something about it. So let him know. You know, he
ain't He ain't great right now, but he can be great.
And don't accept that ship keep going till he find greatness.
Why is words live by well, ladies and gentlemen won't

(01:49:14):
be half of Team Supreme. I'm leaving the proper of
music in the background. So anyway, on behalf on the
rough side. Granther's gone superfine on the piano. Everyone. Yeah,

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