Zoë Kravitz

The star of Hulu's High Fidelity reboot talks with Team Supreme about growing up with famous parents, what she can totally nerd out about, and much more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Question. Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio.
Here we go, Surema road call, Suprema Suprema roll call,
Suprema roll call SUA, don't need to be polite. Yeah,

(00:24):
this is my night. Yeah, it's the Zoe and Steve
Sma road call Frema Suma road call. My name is Sugar,
Get out of my dreams, get into my car and
get the funk out of my Carroll it's my ear. Yeah,

(00:56):
and my girl the Kia. Yeah. Oh, y'all know her
as Zoe, but dope Dope was my movie. Ro call
Sma seven sub Prima role call so Prema seven role
it's me Boss Bill Yeah, and an elevator fighter not Beyonce,
sister Lisa and Lenny's daughter, roll much Worema roll. My

(01:26):
name is Zoe. Yeah, I'm here to hang yeah and
talk to Steve about what the fund is your problem
with sum Sma role muche muro call Prima Prema. Y'all

(01:54):
in my corner, alright, night, ladies, and Jim. Let me
let me not coach, put me in, Let me not upset.
Carly Donovan, she's doing me a solve it right now, guys,
this is this still might be Quest Love Supreme. Alright
at I Heart Radio. How are you? Uh? Should we
have another title like for today's episode. No, I'm just

(02:17):
saying unpaid Bill and Fonte you are never coming back
from cigarettes. Okay they will, Okay, leave the light one
for them at the door. All right, we got unpaid
bills sponsored by Chantings. Wow, you're great. We have a
boss Bill in the house. Hello, how are you is here?

(02:40):
We have Sugar Steve? Hey, everybody, what's going on? Is?
What's up? Okay? Oh see Zoe and Steve go back
so far that she doesn't even know his new titles
Sugar Steve. I was about to question that. We'll explain
to you later. All right, so this is gonna be
a really weird episode. Celebrity now so you know, okay, okay,

(03:02):
yeah you yeah, follow. We're gonna have to explain that
the Sugar Network. You might know me from the credits
of Vincent Roxy. Yes, oh Ship, I forgot Wait. I
think I actually think we might have inadvertently named Steve
because of the amount of times that, uh, bring that

(03:25):
to me. Yeah, Cutty's character in Sugar Shack. Sugar Shack,
that's what it really should have been. Called Vincent Roxy.
Oh my bad host, ladies and gentlemen, my very my
pal uh, Zoe Kravitz is here, um episodes. And that's
the thing I didn't. I purposely didn't do that. You

(03:47):
want me to do the don care nelius. I just
wanted you know, all right, he's gonna be hard. She
got like five brands right now, alright, alright, freesto Zoe Kravitz.
Of course we know her from birth. She has she
has development too, a beautiful actress model representing from I

(04:10):
don't know. I didn't write it like you did. Okay, listen, listen,
I'm telling you. Normally when I do this show, it's
it's it's an extravagant introduction. I actually for me, I know,
it's just I feel weird, man, because like all our guests,
like I know you the best should it was amazing.

(04:33):
I'm sure. I'm sorry. Let me introduce her. I'm this
kid and I'm just kidd No, no, seriously, Zoe. Um. Yeah,
it's damn. This is worse than receiving compliments. It's like
receiving nothing at all. We're never going to get that.

(04:57):
Can I just say you're on the show? Please? By
at this point way, Yeah, we might as well look
just googler, ladies and gentleman. Seriously, I'm gonna I'm gonna
tell you something like, all right you for those of
you that seen Moonstruck, um uh, the nineteen eighty eight

(05:18):
classic would share and Nicholas Cage um and it's and
it's iconic, infamous slap snap out of it seem uh.
I don't know in trouble onths but we won't get
into that. You got in trouble for smacking someone saying slack?
Who would you smack? That's not important? Was it? It's
not important. Let's just keep it moving, keep it moving,

(05:40):
keep it moving. This okay, alright, we're going to investigate
this further down the line. Um out. My first interaction
with Zoe was at the the Grammys in two thousand,
twenty years ago. We've known each other for twenty years now.

(06:03):
It's crazy. So that makes you, well, what I could
have met her when she was seven or eight? Oh
you do want to know where this is going? I'm
shocked that you didn't. First of all, no, listen, I
didn't go there. I know it didn't go there, But
I didn't even say like that listen. This is all
I'm saying. We're sitting we have three nominations. Yeah, I

(06:29):
was about to say, I can't even put up the
theme song. You have three Grammy nominations, right, we have
three Grammy and now I really got to play it anyway.
So we have three nominations and we had already lost
two in the pre telegast Eminem. So it was like
fairly clear that Eminem is just going to sweep the

(06:50):
night away, and um so not wanting to be further disappointed.
Now I'm sitting, I'm sitting behind I'm sitting in front
of all the Street Springsteen wives. Uh. And then in
front of me is this was the night of jay
Loo's dress, right, Yeah, the night of the night well

(07:14):
it was. It was that year, right, So it's it's
it's Lenny Zoe are sitting guessing that you were eleven
or twelve or ten or eleven? Um, chevy Chase at
that age, that was my dream, right, Chevy Chase was there,

(07:35):
and I forget who else was in front of me.
And when they started and when Mobe and them started
reading the nominations, I was saying in the background, We're
not gonna win. We're not gonna win. We're not gonna win.
We're not gonna win. We're not gonna win. We're not
gonna win. We're not gonna win. And Chevy Chase looks
back at me. It's like a nice confidence guy. We're
not gonna win, we're not gonna win. Not we're not
gonna win. We're not gonna win. We're not gonna win.

(07:55):
We're not gonna win. We're not gonna win. And Zoe,
I believe you know what your first words to me was,
I'm no, first of all, who was allowed the curse
at the age of ten. Cursing You said, shut the
funk up. It was like shut no, no, it wasn't
like it wasn't it wasn't a annoyed shut the but

(08:17):
it's more like, no, I don't think I said. My
dad would have been very I don't think that's what
I said. I really I have to say, I don't
think that's true. Carly's like she was cursing. That's it anyway, No, no, no, no,
I'll correct it, but it was definitely my grandmother would
be like so disappointed. I don't think that happened. Okay,

(08:39):
so we went when we went to church that night. No,
my hope. My whole point was that you shot me
a look, but you said something in terms of like
stop saying that, like it was like a therapist or
the share, right, That's what it was. And what was
weird was that I didn't even hear I don't even

(08:59):
here uh Moby say in the Winner is the Roots,
because I was giving you such crazy side. I right, exactly,
she's trouble, I told you, But I knew I was
like this, this little tenual. He just trying to know that.
That was my my my first memory of Zoe, and

(09:21):
then I saw you, like, you know, the first memory
of him. Zone I don't he's told me this before.
He never mentioned to shut then up thing, which I
really don't think he's just making that up. I was
not making enough. But seriously, my dad would smack me
like that wouldn't have flown because when were you cussing
in front of your daddy age? I mean, I feel
like if you had maybe sixteen, but even then he'd

(09:41):
be like Zoe, you know, it wasn't I was not
raised in that kind of a house. So I think
she's the first what I would call the first black
time out child? Oh no, whoopen Zoe? Well, I didn't
want to go there because we talked about that with
Lenny though, remember and he said he was a whooping
bay me. Well in his situation, I don't know, but

(10:03):
I'm just saying that. Yeah, No, I was never hit,
but there was some serious manners, you know. I was
raised with respect and told you know, taught me which
to this day I still and I'm without kids, but
my bandmates that are going through teenage hell right now,

(10:23):
they literally say, hey, can you ask Zoe like how
did she handle this? Situations? Twice twice I've had a
situation where like a roots kid might have done something
unsavory and it was sort of like how did go
to the handle? And now I would have to call
it Zoe to figure out, like, how would you say?

(10:45):
I forget the situ? Obviously smoking smoking is one you talk.
I've heard this story before. What Wait? What what about
what I said? No? About what? What what your mom said?
Oh about smoking weed? W What did she say? Was it?
She just handed you a joint and said, don't lie
about it. Yeah, as she said, she knew I was
smoking weed. And then she handed handed me and joyte

(11:06):
and just said it was Christmas day, Marry Christmas. Yeah right,
but she knew I was doing it, And I think
I think what I said to you was I think
the important thing is to teach kids from a young
age to to how to how to smoke weed responsibly,
because the problem is, I think when you tell someone
they can't do something, then they you know, they turn
eighteen and go to college or whatever, and they go crazy.

(11:29):
So if you teach them how to smoke weed responsibly,
I feel like it gives people a shot at being good.
Yeah good at good at smoke because it took you,
didn't take you aways long to realize. I don't. I
can't go to class and do it before school. But
he sorry, is great after right? Like what about? I
was like, wait, sorry, high school whatever anyway apart? Sorry, no, no,

(11:57):
it's good to know. Um. I wish I had experience
when I was a kid. I'm making him for it now. Yeah,
some mirrors in the club. Now you smoke weed, Now
I do other things. Okay. I remember just giving you
a coffee one time, could not handle it. Proud of him,
like a regular coffee conversations when he went through the

(12:21):
from wa stage and stuff, drink frame and wrong with
nothing wrong with but that's like the only that's your
tear of Yeah. Yeah, she makes fun of the fact
that I'll get ship face drunk and like, oh, I
know you okay, but thank you for that seeing a
firm no occasionally do which really very spiritual for you.

(12:45):
I'm very happy to hear that you're doing that. It's
very spiritual. Yea, right on. Is that interesting that your friends,
everybody who knows you reacts in this way when I
hear this. Yeah, Like, dude, I'm really not the fifty
year old virgin like I do ship. I like pigsfeed,
I like call the mom. I remember when you didn't drink,
or when you rarely drink. Mostly you would pretend to drink.

(13:06):
I don't know me not drinking have more or less
to do with the fact that, but if it's between
ninety three and two thousand and nine, chances are I
was drumming at night. Also, it's totally okay not to drink.
I've never had a moral stance against it. But I'm
just not like trek. Do you like four shots of

(13:27):
patron at some given point. It's weird now because I
don't think to drink, doesn't drink or smoke. Now, I
think like he goes with stages, he'll do it for you,
rarely smokes. Now Like it's I think you just got
bored of it. I was just like yah. Meanwhile, like yeah,

(13:48):
so I just think, you know, it's more about me
being a clear mind and working in that sort of thing.
But you know it's well, okay, so I saw your
fat rails. That's it's nights show us what's fat rails?
Like thick lines of coke? Did I just really do

(14:16):
you really work at NBC? Or all the stories is
false that we hear about NBC. Man, One of my
main disappointments and at NBC is that the folklore like
I've that oral history of S and L or whatever,
Like I've yet to see anything selatious, or the nineties
are over, seventies are over, like everyone's all healthy, and

(14:37):
I'm just saying, I mean, yeah, exactly. Wait, Zoe, al right,
so there there are questions I want to ask about
your childhood. But here's to me, the most amazing thing
about your life was and I have to play this,
uh in the way that I think that you heard

(14:57):
it so this to me, Oh god, don't you love
the filter? That so to me, I'm mad at fuck.
I'm mad at fuck that you got to hear the
entire Public Enemy album being mastered in your mother's womb.

(15:23):
This is so dull. So the story goes that, um,
when Lenny was was finalizing Let Love Rule, is she
being born right now? Oh? No, you came out of
the wound in December, which means that when the album
was mastered in uh April or March, you were just

(15:48):
newly persons formed born. I didn't want to be like
it's burned but conceived. Yeah, becoming becoming a disaster already, Carly,

(16:08):
and please don't drop me as a climate polease hafidelity. Yes, yeah. Anyway,
my point being that when Publicity was sequencing and mastering
their record, Lenny and uh Lisa, uh, we're there. They
were they were the first humans to hear it. And
so they mentioned that during Black Stool in the Hour

(16:31):
Chaos that she felt Zoe dancing inside of her belly,
and I was seeing rage with jealousy that she got
to hear a record before they did, even if it
was subconsciously. Here's a question that relates to that do
you have any personal connection to that record, like through you?
This is no, not really. I don't think I even

(16:52):
really knew this story until right now. It was a
lot of dramatic things that happened within, like the birth
of Zoe. I feel like like, even if you say
that from that I was thinking about, I was like, dang,
even when your mom was pregnant with you, that was
dramatic because I remember watching the Cosbys in him Heiner
and then the whole different world thing and everything had
to change, Like it's like so much drama. I totally
forgot that and all the rumors after she was born

(17:15):
about you know, the house was supposedly as my mom
of just what I just heard, Like there was all
stuff that but that just like the house was just
disgusting and mess and I everywhere, and she like because
it's so we talk about how she didn't want me
to be vaccinated and that was like a huge deal.

(17:35):
And also the fact that we were vegetarians was a huge,
huge deal. Well, yeah, to us, I think you were
definitely the first family of black bohemianism, at least us
growing up, like, oh, there's another option, because Prince was
the only alternative black person. I think that we've knew,

(17:57):
we've known, and you know, because he sort of defined
the early eighties at least with the silicious sexual thing,
like it was less of whatever we think of hippie culture,
which I don't even think you guys were hippies. You
just dressed hip. No, there was a hippie. I mean,
what is hippie? I guess the question becomes what is so?

(18:19):
What are your earliest childhood memories of growing up? I
mean we you know, we lived in Venice Beach, We
lived into Panga Canyon. I didn't there was no television.
We were, you know, eating organic foods, and you know
it was you never had a craving for like Lucky
Charms or peanut butter ca wh when I would see
commercials for that stuff and when's house. I wasn't allowed

(18:40):
to eat it, but I would like dream about it,
Like I had this whole thing with pizza because I
wasn't allowed to eat cheese, and I would watch kids
at birthday parties like this, like the string of cheese,
and I was like, I wanted it so bad because
my mom would take the cheese off my pizza was heartbreaking.
Are you still currently a vegan? No, alright, so as
a child you started vegan? Yeah, I mean now I'm

(19:01):
kind of going back towards veganism. I think it's, you know,
learning more about why it's important for the environment and
all that. But I had a little phase where I
was sucking up some cheeseburgers for sure. Okay, how long
as a child were you would be like until I
was nine or something, So what do you consider Wait, technically,

(19:23):
were you born in New York or I was born
in las Ange? Was born in Venice Beach at home,
which was also a big deal at the time of
home birth. Really, oh, I'm just about to say, what
was that like? But it's not like you would There
was this bright light to do the water and everything

(19:43):
that was No, that was in the that wasn't I
think in a bed? Yeah, I think it was before
that was the thing. I think. Yeah, was there a
Public Enemy record playing with that Prince was performing? He
was there perform. I'll make jokes, but I'm sure that
the music going on for sure, incense and there was
probably mad Vibe and still non Choppa like maybe I

(20:06):
love nock chompa classic. What's your first memory, at least
like a fuzzy memory of your childhood. First memory. I
remember I spent a lot of time at my grandmother's house,
both my grandmother's but my specifically my father's mother. Roxy.

(20:26):
We should mention Roxy Broker of Jefferson and she. I
just spent a lot, a lot of time at both
my grandmother's house. You're gonna which do you know? The
Apollonian story? This is gonna be a whole night of
me hearing some aut she did get from grandma Roxy's.

(20:50):
I have one of hersonnel suits. That's that's it. I'm
sure My dad, my dad, you know, he keeps a
lot of stuff. He said, you had to see somebody's
not But I want to know what's your in game?
Do you want to have rocksy Rokers? Do you know
what I do think? I know, I do think that
they should be on showcase at the Black Sony And

(21:11):
I do think that Rocky Broker's roardrobe because she used
to Jers apartment. Yes, yeah, Timothy, you gotta make this happen. Um.
So the story was that when um, when your grandmother
was shooting the four episode arc of the Jeffersons go

(21:34):
to Hawaii. Um, obviously she brought a polar with her
and took like a lot of candidate photos everywhere. My
guess is that maybe she left the camera and all
the film that she took in Hawaii. So cut to Apollonia. Um,
what's the term when you go to thrift stores a lot?
You but yeah, thrifting, But I think there's another term

(21:58):
for it. But anyway, Uh, cut you Apollonia inside of
a thrift store and saw a photo book there and
it was all pictures of It was your grandmother's um
photo book. And so I know that I connected her
and Lenny together. So I figured I would hope that

(22:20):
at least the last two years that it got to him.
I'm gonna ask him that is. So that's really cool. Yeah,
so yeah, I found where I know your grandma's pully to.
I love you're all watching me so creepy man that
you guys saw me drowning and you were just like

(22:46):
me and Steve were just enjoying the show. Yes, Steve,
you're you're awfully quiet over there. I don't interrupt, waiting
for his Steve, waiting for his chance. I'll be your friend.
So my second favorite, my favorite second favorite story is
we were at Governor's Island, Governor's uh where Radio Hit

(23:07):
was playing. Where's where's the festival where you have to
go to the Governor's ball. Governor's Ball, that's what it's called. No,
Is that what it's called when you have to go
to the Statue of Liberty? Yeah? All right, so yeah,
so whatever this situation was the roots. I know that
Radio Hit was also playing at Governor's Ball, and um,

(23:28):
so we're driving back to the city. Steve's driving, uh
the car. I'm in the passenger seat, and you were
in the back seat, and you guys were she had
a friend friend with her. Oh, somebody was in the
car with you and you two were pickering as you are.
Was it my boyfriend like when we're fighting? It was

(23:50):
another girl? There was another But all I remember was yah,
ladies and gentlemen. The level the level of silence here.
You cut the tension with the ninth ninth because like,
literally I'm having flashbacks. I'm getting I don't understand what

(24:12):
you know. These two are just like first graders. Part
and Lisa. It's basically I'll quit it, quit it, quit it.
They don't hate each other, but they just get on
each other's button pushing. Okay, Steve is fun to push buttons. Yeah,
he gets so he gets that what's going on. People
are just having fun. I thought the whole goal was
to not push people. You pretend to be so grumpy,

(24:35):
and I would I don't think he's pretending. Zoe will
call Steve he's pretending. I would call him sunshine him,
like I know there's a ray sunshine in there somewhere,
you know, you know, you know the thing like I'll
reject you before you reject me first. Yeah, that's basically
Stevens like Oscar the grouch, you know, like what Kamar
wants to be. He's a soccer pop anymore. Um. Yeah,

(25:01):
so the point is that, um, the height of this bickering.
All I know is that the car had to be
moving at least fifteen twenty miles an hour. Yeah, we
were coming up sixth Avenue. We right right to Electric Lady,
and then you saw your godmother, Mersa Tolmay. But you
got out of the car. Coincidentally, you got out. You

(25:23):
were so disgusted it that you jumped out the car
mid motions. I got out of the moving car to
get away from Steve, that's get the funk out of
my car. No, well that's another there's another. No, this
is the same incident. But yeah, we were driving up
sixth Avenue. You saw Marissa Tomay and you started going nuts.
That's I know her, that's Marissa Tomay. I gotta get
out here. And we were like, godmother, by the way,

(25:44):
I'm not like, I know Marissa Tomay. Different um and uh. Yeah,
you opened the door where the car was still moving,
and that's when I lost it. I was like, just,
you know, wait till we pull over. We're in the
middle of freaking sixth Avenue, by the way, I like,
what twenty years old, nineten years old? Like probably younger, yeah,
like yeah, she was the first grader. I was the

(26:08):
adult driving, you know, worried about safety, you know, um
and uh and so you know, I just kind of
lost it and said wait till I pull over, and
pulled over and then you got out. I thought she
jumped out mid motion pretty much and then left the
door open, and it was just like, you know, the
whole thing. Yeah, oh my god, I was sweat seven.

(26:31):
It was seventeen. I got younger every time I have
said it. I was newly born. I didn't know how
cars were. Yeah, so that was that's that, wasn't that always?
Also during that time when you were spending time a
little bit in Philadelphia because I'm mad, I missed probably
like the beginning of that. Yeah, I forgot it was

(26:52):
a Governor's but I thought we were driving from Philadelphia. Yeah,
that's what I thought. I think something we were. This
was we weren't. I forgot who we replaced. We were
like last minute replacements at Governor's ball. And I remember
that they put us on before radio hit. And the
way that it's organized is the stages are side by
side to each other, so like people will be in

(27:15):
front of your stage, but if there's an act that
they really want to see on the other stage, either
to your right or to your left, chances are they
might just desert you, uh and running over there. So
it was like literally we were about to do the
seed and then I just looked up and half the
audience is gone. If we were playing to the soundman,

(27:36):
like literally everyone just ran over to get to get No, no,
not even you. It was away right, No, I don't
mean you. You know, it's not like you came with us.
I think we just hey, we're going back to the

(27:56):
city and you know, maybe we'll bump into Marissa tom
And it was like, isn't she in a sign Feld
episode that they talk about. The whole thing feels like
a sign because yeah, importantly, she was in the first
season of a Different World, which is when her relationship
probably developed with Lisa Bonne. But I'm just saying, yeah,
I'm sorry. We also had Cree on the show. Yeah,

(28:18):
I remember she gave me permission to hug you for her,
so I told her, think I will take that for her.
There's one question I have about your mom. Okay, what
am I technically supposed to call her? Because I still
say hey you. She changed her name to Lillakoi, so
people who really know her call her Lilacoi, And if
she met you on the street tomorrow, that's probably how
she'd introduced herself. But she her professional name is to

(28:40):
Lisa Bone so she does a film or something, it
would still be so they're both they're both accepted. Wouldn't
have offended her, No, no, no. People obviously see her
all the time and say Lisa because I'm still in
that they inner circle. If you want to be like,
you know, circle you call her, I don't know if
I can call her that? You can well, I don't know.
It's like seeing M and M and saying what's up Marsh,

(29:02):
Like she's the last to close this circle of tribe.
You have to call her that so she can come
here quasi close enough to do so? So can wait?
Since I'm already here? Can can I ask you a question? No?
Don't ask question? Now? Is turning the SNL Chris Farley

(29:24):
moment yo dog um? Jason? Does he have to give
intense hugs? Like that? Does intense hugs? Dude? He's the
between him and he's talking about Jason. He's the fifth
most intense greeter, I know, like where you have to

(29:46):
hide from the person. Do you rememberest with Kermit and Grover?
And he knocks him up for the ledge like that
sort of like like greeting him is like and then
does he pick you up? He didn't up? He does

(30:07):
he does the like. It's just it's just a really
big dude. And I don't think you can't tell that
he's being you know, he's really right. He's such a happy, passionate.
But sometimes I'm like, you just can't just pick people
up and move them. They're not like you know, he's
just such a big He's a big guy. My dream

(30:28):
is to see him and Buster Rhymes meet each other,
to see if they spontaneously combusted. Buster is like, don't
talk like spring. Come on, you know there's only years left, right, yo,
not for nothing's away. Can I just ask you this.
It seems like you were surrounded by so much love,

(30:50):
like even I was looking at of course we were
looking at the wedding pictures, but just you can feel
like a lot of love from every piece and part
of your family. Is yeah, that you feel that? Yeah,
I've been very, very lucky to be you know, raised
by not only two wonderful parents, but an entire community
you know, my mom, Marissa and Cree and you know,

(31:10):
just an incredible tribe who helped helped raise me. Especially
you know, I'm sorry, especially you know they had me
very young, so you need that support. And those people
have become my family. Seems like they taught you about joy. Yeah,
since we brought up your your stepfather really quick, I
hear that there's a story about the first time you
met him. Yeah, yeah, okay, so um, my mom and

(31:32):
Jason started dating when um, I was I think sixteen
years old, and um, I was living in New York
and she was living in l A And so I
hadn't I would see her, you know, on Christmas breaks
and spring breaks, so I would go a long periods
of time without seeing her. And um, her and Jason
started dating and she got pregnant and I still hadn't
met him. So um, he happened to be coming to

(31:56):
New York to do convention. He does all those sci
fi conventions and stuff. So he was there for like
twenty four hours. And my mom called me and said,
I'm dating someone, which was a big deal because she
hadn't dated someone in a long time. And um, and
so he's coming to New York and I've left for
you to meet him. Um. It was just kind of
a weird. You know, you're sixteen, and I'm like, what
do you want? What do you mean? Like, what do
you want me to do? And um, So we were

(32:18):
doing like a talent show thing at school, So we
were at school really late, and so I said, you know,
he can come by after school and like whatever. So
I was hanging out with like six of my friends
outside school, and I was like, we were waiting to
go to my friend's house to kind of go, you know,
drink and smoke weed or whatever. And I was like no, no, no,
because and he wasn't famous either, so I had still
looks like that. Yes, he had dreads too. He was

(32:40):
like um, And so I'm like, we have to wait
here because like my mom's boyfriend's coming to say hi,
and we're all like okay. So we're sitting around and
all of a sudden, this car pulls up and this
guy gets out and he's just like the biggest, most
beautiful person we've ever seen. And like speaking of big hugs,
he like runs across the street and I've never met him,

(33:07):
and I'm like embarrassed too, and he grabs me and
picks me up and he's like so what's up. So
oh my god, he's like so sweet, excited to meet me,
and we're all like these kids like looking up at him,
and it's just like we've never seen anything like this person.
And then it was no, it was intense, and then
you know, we kind of energy was so pure. Yeah,

(33:28):
it was great, but also just like whoa dude? Um,
So then we kind of like shoot, the ship for
a while and then we're like, okay, we're gonna go.
We're gonna go to our friend's house in Central Park,
West Um. There was like we know, we had that
one friend who his parents like were cool like letting
us like smoke and hang out. And so he was like,
I'll give you guys a ride. Pile in. So we
like all pile in his car and he drives us

(33:48):
across the park and then we're like all right, man,
like thank you so much, you know, and he's like, oh,
I'm gonna come up. I wanna come up and hang out.
And we're like again, like a very tiny sixteen year
old group was like this guy, and so we're like okay, yeah, yeah,
I come up. So he comes up and we kind

(34:09):
of like sneak him in the house and we're in
my friend Vaughn's bedroom and we're like ribbon bongs and
like drinking like forties of old English, like playing the
acoustic guitar, like being a bunch of like you know, teenagers,
and he's hanging out and he's like getting sucked up
and we're hanging out. We're like bonding and not getting

(34:30):
sucked up. He's drinking beer with us, just so clarify
wasn't like insane, but so then you know, we're all
and then eventually it got really fun. It was like
our new friend, he's all like hanging out with everybody.
And then I remember Um, my friend's dad, Um, who
was very sweet, kind of timid man, came into the
room to bring us a snack. And it comes into
the room and you just see him like look at

(34:52):
Jason like all these like little kids and just like
a giant man like red locks with a beer in
his hand. I think maybe even like playing a bong
like you know, and he just looks at Jason and
he has this bowl the cherry's in his hand and
he just went and it. But I want a cold cherry.

(35:17):
That's a good that's a good one. That is a
good one. Guy, that's a good one. Um, Jason, you
are such a dickens for our viewers, she could be
talking about Jason Alexander. I don't know, Alexander. That would
be now everybody, please rewind this and think of that

(35:38):
story with Jason Alexander, and no, because it's funny. I
don't think of a pretty woman. I mean, I don't
think of Seinfeld A pretty woman. I think a pretty
woman her leg. Yeah, come on, you got a dollar,
I got a dollar hunting. You're reciting the lyrics sport

(35:58):
for all right, I'm gonna this. I'm gonna say you
all professional. I am right now, ladies and gentlemen, we're
gonna pay the bills right now and just jump right
to high fidelity. However this I'm jumping back. Uh, we're done.

(36:19):
We're not done here, We're not done. Literally. I want
to know what you're childhood soundtrack was, So do you remember? Okay, Well,
because he grew up in such a musical household, I'm
certain that a lot of the records you hold near
and deer were already there. So what I'll say is,
what was the childhood song that you remember first? First

(36:47):
or like your your earliest childhood Like, I'm not ashamed
to say that mine was fu. You are ashamed to say,
what is it? It's so whacked. It's not whacked. Number
disrespect this Neil Sadaka's Bad Blood. Oh yeah, we went
over the Yeah, but that was that was my first
memory of something you heard, and yeah, that was my

(37:09):
first you know, I don't know the joint my parents
were it's about you, not me. Um. Let's see. I
mean a lot of my mom would play a lot
of Bob Marley, UM, a lot of I remember singing.
I remember her being into the Chili Peppers record and me, Um,

(37:32):
I was in UM. I was really into that song
under the Bridge. And I remember being with my father
in um in a hotel lobby and my dad brought
me over to some guy and he was like, this
guy sings that song that you like. It was Anthony
and he made me sing under the Crib. But I
was like, you know three, Yeah, I was really little

(37:52):
in my head. I was like, wait a minute, under
the Bridge, that's later Chili Peppers. But I've got you.
I don't um. But you know, my parents listened to
so much great music that I think I actually kind
of had this like weird music rebellion thing where I
kind of had to come back to good music, Like
the only way you can rebel is to listen to

(38:14):
really shitty music. But is there something of the day
that you like, Like did you ever go to Spice
Girls conco? Yeah? I was obsessed with the Spice Girls,
Like one of the first scenes, I thought it was
big Willie style. I was so excited to have I
remember having that credibility for him. Though. Really there's like

(38:35):
one song on there, the Rain from Philadelphia. Yeah all right,
even the one about Mimi hey Man. He's trying to
expand his brand from Philly. I know, but I'm just saying, so,
all right, so your first record that you brought was

(38:55):
a big will style. Yeah, I think it was big
Willie style. Why big Willie? That was the first Are
you looking at me? You don't remember the rehearsal me
and Kirk argument style, And that's how That's how Kirk
was saying it, child if if the rooms. One of

(39:16):
the scariest things about Steve is that the mics are
always on in our dressing room. So, um, every argument,
every awkward moment is like there. So sometimes I'll sit
at the computer looking for songs and then realizing that
there's like twelve second snippets of arguments but weren't. But
the but the big Wooly style argument is like, oh yeah,

(39:40):
he was trying to tell Kirk how to sing that
say or whatever. It was like a background responsive vocal
or something. Yeah, I was trying to teach Kirk how
to be tough, big willy style. Kirk was saying it, Mike.
He was from a long eye, big wily style, and

(40:01):
I was like, you gotta put some gut in it.
Should I give this here? I'm gonna have to give it.
I will give it to bills anyway. So I'm very
happy that Big Style. That was the first record you brought. Yeah,
like the first CD I actually you know, bought and
you know went and I remember going into my room
and like looking at the lyrics for the whole thing,

(40:23):
and did your parents ever criticize you for like stuff
that you listened to? That was like, I don't think
they criticized me, but I know that one. I was
maybe third fourteen, after living in Miami and being really
into whatever was on the radio. My dad I bought
I bought a Beatles album and I came home with

(40:44):
the Beatles album. My dad was like thang god like exhale,
like he was like, I was worried, what made you
do it? I don't know. I think I was kind
of like, oh, the Beatles I heard they were pretty good.
I don't know, like was it over a boy? Like No,
I don't think it was over a boy. I think
it was just kind of like I remember the first
thing that kind of brought me back to good music was, um,

(41:05):
it was Pink Floyd Dark Side in the Moon probably
like started smoking weed and like listen to that and
realized there was like a whole world of music that
wasn't Nelly because I was as it must have been
a moment when you asked to be taken to a
show that, Oh my god, I took my dad, made

(41:25):
my dad take me to a Blank concert. And I
remember being there and the guys, the Blank w ety
two started like I don't know, they like a girl
threw a bra on the stage and then they took
the bra and put it on their head and pretended
to be flies. And I remember my dad just like
looking at me, just like why why are we here?

(41:46):
You know they can see me? Why do I have
to be here? Like That's that was real love right there.
But you should have you should have said back, the
only reason why I'm here? New additions, you can set
them down right there. You went to a new Edition concert,
Lenny Kravit a moment, I mean every everyone went to

(42:09):
blink when eighty two At the time, that was like no, no,
they were huge, they were all the small things. Yeah.
But if you were to ever tell me that the
story of you know, the Queen in the in the
King of Black Boho Bi, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been
like concert right right, I told you that story affirmed

(42:34):
Black America's love with them. He was like, yeah, wait,
did you know that? I think in an elementary yeah,
it just made it perfect. It was like, yes, they
of course, because there's there's levels to these people in anyway,
what's of fidelity about? Seriously? The original in the movie,

(42:55):
it's happy right now, Steve, here's the book, Steve, you
didn't see your original? Shout out? No, he knows that
he's Is it a remake? Yeah, he's being genuine. No,
he's been nick Hornby. Um, I know the movie. In
the book, she's saying, what's the show about? Do you
know that? Do you know the beautiful irony of why

(43:21):
she did this series? No? Okay, So in the movie,
have you seen hafidelities? Basically that could describe our relationship
movie John Cusack and Jack Black. You might be Jack Black,
I might be Cusack in the situation. Um, yeah, yeah,

(43:43):
he's black. I don't think you're I don't know who
you are, don't listen to anyway. So the whole point
is that Tim Robbins her mother her her mother was
in high fidelity. So that's right, right, I get it.
So the brilliant thing about this is that I forgot

(44:05):
the gender flip of the fact that she's now playing
the role of Kuzack. So it's a show. It's a show,
and it's a show on Hulu. Hul is ten episodes
and um yeah, I want to know how you guys
got away with all the music. Then it was journey.
It was a journey. I mean, we had a great
music budget. But how many personal letters did you have

(44:27):
to write? Two different estates. I actually didn't. I actually didn't,
Um but there this is people just cleared it. Liken't
princess people. But I was ready to. There was a
few times, like the Stevie Wonder song there we had
trouble getting I believe what I fall in love for
some reason really too. I think it was actually just
busy and it took him a minute to answer. But
I was prepared to write a letter. Um but, um yeah,

(44:50):
it was crazy. There was a lot of songs that
I thought we weren't going to get that we ended
up getting because he gets so attached to things and
you can't see anything else in that space. Do you
have any input on the song? So I'm sorry, she's
executive producer. I had a lot yeah, yeah, and a
lot of the songs we wrote into the scripts and
then yeah, you have to get them cleared first, and
then no, we'd write them in knowing they could be changed.

(45:13):
The only ones that you know, were difficult were ones
that we were actually discussing what Zeppelin with Ye, we
didn't even try, you know what. It's weird. It's so
weird to me that people that are so protective of
a legacy like one. I think a lot of times
the red tape lawyers often are so protective of it,

(45:34):
but they don't know it's for their like for something
like this, like the music is going to have to
translate to another generation. Yeah, and it's exciting because so
many people don't know a lot of the music, I
think young people. So yeah, a lot of the times
I find out that it's mostly the lawyers because when
these artists come to our show, like they don't even know.

(45:55):
I joked with the playing all the time that like
his stuff is unclearable. He says, yes, of course I
would want my music everywhere. But it's just like you're
dealing with lawyers and publishing companies and that sort of
Wait a minute. Lawyers only care about money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
believe it or not so, and publishing companies only care

(46:16):
about money too. What. Yes, I wanted to grow on kids. Um,
so how did you you have ten episodes? Did you
spread out the whole book amongst to make those ten
episodes or is did you save some for another season? Yeah?
We saved a lot of stuff for future seasons. Um.
And and we also took liberties you want to good. Um.

(46:38):
We also kind of you know, expanded beyond the book. Um.
But you know, the idea of going back and I'm
seeing your x is and all that, that's kind of
the foundation of the of There a lot of Eastern
eggs in there too. Yeah. Like I don't want to
give it away, but there's a name that that's mentioned.
That's um, that's one of Rob's x in the book
or in the movie, in the Excuse Me in the

(46:58):
TV show. That's more if his girlfriend's exits in the
book and the movie. Yes, we did. We did a
lot of stuff like that, like a lot of nods
to the to the movie. And I actually really I'm
haven't finished it yet. I'm only like I've only gotten
up to the Frisday episode. Um, but I've enjoyed seeing
how certain things have been updated before you know, the
movie came out, like I guess it was twenty years
ago now, So seeing how some of the references have

(47:20):
been updated. You know, Um, you know in the movie,
the whole I just can't called to say I love
you that character and then how it's dealt with me
was like, oh that broke my heart. So you see, Steve,
there's an episode when they have a conversation I'm not
giving it. Do you know that I just called to
see I love you debate in the movie? Uh? Vaguely

(47:42):
all right. So like a customer comes in to get
a Stevie One song and says, hey, I just called it,
and they basically just coming, there's no way your daughter
likes that. I'm sorry. Yeah, so they've updated it. Uh
just sort of someone wants to buy a Michael Jackson's record. Yeah,
it's still in that scene. I was a man, I

(48:05):
was like, no, I would have said Jerry, hey not
but that the needed ask we need you more and
more involved this time the next time. But I did
think that it was ill about that scene is divine right,
Oh my god? I should have won awards and that's dumb,
but that she didn't win. But um, I thought it
was interested in the stance that she took because based
on her character, I was like, now, girl, yeah, I know,

(48:26):
you know that the adverace is to be like who who?
I didn't see the take, did you say? Yeah? You know?
But she was like no black character. So she was
the one that was like, no, you can't buy this.
You know, he did this and he did that. It
was interesting, It was a nice It was important to
us to kind of, you know, not make people stereotypes,
you know what I mean. So there was an earlier
version with the song she comes in and plays when
she first when I first gat her, there was an

(48:47):
earlier version where it was like Pony or something. We
were like, well, you just like see it coming. So
that was something we were conscious. I'm glad y'all did that. Yeah,
how are you able to clear? Yeah? I mean I
don't know where music supervisors did because that's I was
walking on Sunshine in the movie. Yes, right, Okay, I

(49:09):
see now, Um, well, I was going to tell you, Steve,
I don't know if you're aware of how streaming culture works. Now, yeah,
I was gonna ask is it take place in a
record store or not? Yeah, it does, but I'm just
saying that it's not. It's more not like a note
for note cover of the book in the movie, but

(49:31):
just treat it as its own basis, but heavily inspired.
But it's basic playlists instead of mixtapes. Yeah. Yeah, And
Bruce Springsteen is not in the in the in the show,
but there is another person. You gotta watch the show
to find out. So I did want to ask you though.
As I was watching, I wondered as a kid, because
I know the answer for all these guys is yes,

(49:53):
and me is yes. But did you ever make mixtapes
for something like for a boy before? Yeah? I made well,
I made CDs, right, sorry, I down. I would download
things off of lime Wire and yeah, said Napster, Napster,

(50:15):
Now I was it was more it was lime Wire.
It was lime Wire for me, like the first generational millennial,
like the like the generation next of millennials. God, lime Wire,
Remember you would like download stuff too, and you would
wait forever and but then it wouldn't It wasn't even
the thing that you meant it down there, it was
something else. Have you done? Have you done yet? Oh

(50:36):
my god, Carl, please put it on. This is a
mural so that they could just talk about lime Wire.
Oh yeah, yeah, Jesus is the king of that or
he might have never mind, he's the king of that ship.
So yeah, so you may mix it, okay, Yes, that
would have all love songs like sometimes love songs also,

(50:57):
just like these are cool songs that, like I think
you would think are cool too. Did you have a
formula for putting them together like you do in the
in the show? Um, that's a good question. I think
I was less aware because now I when I make playlists,
my biggest concern is how one song flows into the
next song. I don't think that was something I was
savvy too when I was younger. Actually I was. I
don't know how. I don't know how it like, I

(51:19):
don't know how, I don't know where. I don't know
where it came from, Like maybe it was happening naturally,
and I wasn't over thinking it, because now I really
think about it, you know. Ah, that's I didn't. I
thought I was the only person that put not that
much thought because you actually put out a release of
a mixtape Babies Making Babies the other day. Actually, I've
been making my mom playlist because I got really into

(51:41):
making playlists for the show, and then I would send
them to her and now she's like really into them,
and now she kind of demands them. And what's her streaming?
She's Apple Music. It's only because she doesn't She's like,
what is the Spotify? Like she doesn't know already got that? Yeah,
it's dummies. I'm sorry. I mean it's convenient. Yeah, I

(52:07):
have it on next so I don't have to download
another fucking app on my computers. Music Okay, Yeah, they
got the four you section. Okay, yeah, you know, I
mean I gave my heart to Spotify. Sorry, J I
have titled too. They don't have Question of Supremes. I
have all my MP three's and stuff in iTunes. It's

(52:28):
not gonna fit in Spotify. Ze, can you share a
playlist with us? Yeah? I will absolutely. Will you make
me a playlist all about cars? I'm definitely going to
make you. Have you graduated, Steve. I've been trying to
get Steve. Now, Steve, let's start a playlist group, Steven.

(52:49):
Steve is, actually, are you still making? Uh not swindles?
What do you call it? You're swindles? You know what
I'm talking about? Steve? You just watching me drown. You
don't know. I thought that smelled you outside in the front.
I'm like, no, are you do you still make your mixes? Well,

(53:17):
Steve was like the original Spotify, so those were that
was random. Those weren't really had a guardantle. Let me explain,
like he had a guardantlan CD collection like two thousand,
three thousand CDs. Do you still have these? Yeah, they're
still in tech. Yeah, they were in storage. Well because
you know, sure, friway to keep the relationship and check

(53:40):
is to threaten your partners. You dog, I'm telling you home,
you run home. Make sure that destroyed. No, but Steve
would um just basically randomly put a thousand CDs as

(54:00):
I was a thousand CD change or how many did
it hold? Like five? Yeah? Yeahs? Yeah two of them right, no,
it was two four and then uh he would rand
put them on random and then uh have them recorded
randomly and just kind of fun. Is what an email

(54:23):
stands for, right, I never knew that was It was
random out of I just chose my eight hundred favorite
albums basically random, and then he would easter egg them throughout.
I made a thousand of them and so I just
came away. I remember, just place them throughout like randomly,
and I never got one of them. Some of the
best coasters. You were about to get it to me

(54:44):
before still have a CD player. I'll give you one. Okay.
Well that's the thing though. I tried to tell Steve,
no I MP three theom though I have them all,
have a thousand of them, all EMP three But even
then I told you, like, you have to get a
streaming account and start all over again and be obsessed
with it. Network. We really love that, Steve. That's the
gift that keeps you know, Yes, the network we did,

(55:05):
Sugar Network. I just feel like we're old and we
did playlists already, and like we made our mixed TAPESY
is bringing it back? What do you do? Oh? No?
But you know, I mean he doesn't want to start
all over again. We were making, you know, we made
we were I was obsessed with playlists when when we
first got our playlists. Right, you're you're the o G.

(55:28):
I get it. It might be nice fun for you.
I mean, I'm kind of on Spotify. You're gonna get
it Spotify. You're gonna make Zoe an apology playlist. I'll
make you a playlist if you make me. I'm not
like Mandel. I don't give it. Oh you don't know not?
Does it matter? Okay? Actually I think it's mixed tape.

(55:51):
Mandel is, where is my Spotify? Can our listeners just
I don't know, Yes, send me up. Don't I want
to force you? I don't. I mean I'm an old
school record collector, and now everything, people, everything is everything
is available in one place for free. And that's your fear.

(56:13):
That's your fear. Right. He has a guilt of like
he doesn't like the logic of like not paying for
a tangible piece of product with just ten songs on it.
I mean, but now you're educated more. There's so many
groups that I know about now that I would have
never known about if I had to pay for them
all or Yeah, there is something sad about not physically

(56:34):
owning your music, though. I think yeah. I mean it's
all very very virtual, it seems. Man. Man, I just
don't have enough room in my apartment for anymore, so
me neither. Today I just got thirty more records. Um,
I don't know whatever they're sitting, that's where they're staying. Zoe,

(57:01):
are you still singing? Are you? Because I know for
a while you were. Yeah, I haven't been, but I've
just been recording, um the last kind of six months
I've been. I've been recording with Jackets and Outfit, Electric Lady,
Solo Joint. Yes, so you finally just you yourself, Jesus Christ.

(57:21):
I had to. I had to get there myself. Now,
I know, I know it was I really think a
big part of it was me just being afraid and
kind of hiding behind something else. But congratulation. I've been
waiting for this moment all my life. Thank you. No,
I'm really excited. It feels um, it feels great. How
does it feel recording an Electric Lady like sad Vibe? There?

(57:44):
We sat down with your dad. There was dressing everything.
I wore a nice top, okay, because my girlfriend wouldn't
wanted me to. She got extra dressed up for that episode.
You know what your daddy looked like, right, yeah, yeah,
with your parents seen My dad has seen three or

(58:05):
four episodes. Like, I don't think, how awkward is it?
It's not that awkward. I feel like, I don't know,
man's that weird? All right, here's here's a good problem
to have, because yes, I acknowledge that there's a three
on the left digit of your age. But you're and

(58:26):
I don't mean like in a condescending like, but you're
always you still look sixteen, which right which I'm certain
like you could be you'll probably look like a teenager
until you're No, she didn't look sixteen laying down next
to that finality aren't Like. I was like, look at

(58:49):
the white a position that they started. They do that,
They just they stay right there. It was just it
was beautiful, nothing to do. It was kind of it
reminded me of a beautiful sect like you would see
if she's got to have it, because they always it's
nice to see two brown people girl talking, you know,
and I felt, you know, it was nice to see
you in that way too, because we don't always get
to see who like That's how I enjoyed that. Thank you,

(59:09):
not in a nasty way. I appreciate it. I'm going
to enjoy it in a nasty way. What those weren't

(59:30):
no damn words. Wi, I just decided to have my
own where are you going instantentials in case the conversation
got awkward, like she works with Laura dn't and she's
like the hell of the me too movements? Right? All right?
So Steve, so not that. No, I appreciate your patience.

(59:53):
I know that you probably not for ninety seven hours. No, no,
this is I'm having this is great, Thank you. I
appreciate that. Um well, I will my kind of closing
not closing question. But you often do uh these what
I call superhero summer movies. I mean, look, dog, I

(01:00:14):
wish if I watched television at home, I wish I
was like a Marvel person or whatever or that sort
of thing. But I know that you're currently doing Batman
right now, and that it's what what is the your Catwoman?
So how grueling is your training and how rigorous is it?

(01:00:35):
It's pretty intense. We we just started shooting, um a
couple of weeks ago, but before that I was in
London for two months just getting in shape, training, learning fights.
Um so you can fight now, I can fight now.
Batman should be a woman. She's playing woman. I know

(01:00:56):
Batman should be a woman. I don't think out woman whatever,
but she's not a woman. But wait, that's crazy though,
because your step and then under it's like it was
Michelle Peiffer, Calie Berry. I meant that. That's what I
meant that too, and wasn't the first woman? You know what?

(01:01:17):
Sometimes summer, this is next summer. We're shooting until this summer.
It's a long shoot. Wow, how intense is this? It's intense?
What's the official title called The Batman? Who is that?
Who is Batman? Robert Pattinson? Yo, I need you to
give I know he thinks I'm crazy, but literally, but

(01:01:41):
literally after I saw a Good Time. He can do
no wrong. He's a good actor, man dog, He's really
he was so good. I didn't know I was watching
Robert Patty. I was walking up the theater and someone
mentioned like the Werewolf and I looked at the post.
I was like, wait, which one was Robert? And then
had to go back to see it against what is

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this movie? You have to see Good Time? The same
people that brought you. Really, they're so good they make
anybody like calibers. That's how awesome they are. And that's
not even the little acting abilities you have to see. Yes,
you when you go back and start shooting pretty pretty woman,

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I've got three women, little liars. I got everything in
my head. When you go back and film the HBO
show again, I don't I don't know that or do you?
Because it was Yeah. The funny thing about that show
is that it was supposed to be a limited series,
so there was only supposed to be one season and
then yea, and then was that unfair? Like when you know?

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When I saw that, I was like, oh God, okay,
so Merl's just going to eat Well she didn't get
nominated for she was well, she didn't win thow, But
instantly I thought, oh great out you know, was gonna
win everything. Yeah, established she was playing a bit too,
so it was like, oh, she's really going to kill it.

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Wouldn't it be funny if that was my reaction to
Meryl Street right the craft? I was like, that bitch
is gonna win everything. No, I think we were all
just I mean to work with her is an award
working with whatever? Is there anybody that's been like super
timidating that you worked with. I mean, I've been nervous

(01:03:28):
to work with people. I mean, Meryl Street being one
of them, also, Nicole So, Laura Reese, all of the
you know, when I would first do a scene with them,
I'd have to pinch myself to say, that's the ultimate
posse cut. It's crazy. When I was seventeen, one of
my first movies, I did a film with Jodie Foster,
and I grew up loving Jodie Foster, so that was
a huge, huge deal to um. Yeah, man, I've worked

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with a lot of people who have made me very nervous.
He was so dramatic. It's no, it's not too many
happy moments in that show. So I'm like, you got
to look like I have to put so much emotion
into everything that you film on that show, because yeah,
it's kind of show. I love it though, Thank you. Okay,
So what this stage of your life and I'm winding
it down the stage of your life, Like, what do

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you hope for between these next ten years? Like can
we call this the twenties? Yeah, we're in the twenties,
isn't that weird? The Roaring twenties? Yeah? Prohibition, Yeah, So
what are your personal goals? Like, do you have a
wishboard or you just take it as it comes? I know,

(01:04:33):
I mean I think I have a wish a wishboard
kind of inside of me, like I can feel like
the things that I'm gravitating towards and want to do.
I've been writing a script for a couple of years
that I hope to make in the next year or so. Um,
making making music? Have you ever directed anything? No, but
that's not even a video or just something. No, not really,
but that's something I really, really really want to do. Um,
I think I you know, I would do for the

(01:04:54):
next season of Hopitality for sure. I want to direct
the film that I'm writing and want to make music. Um.
I want to get the funk off my phone? Man,
how hard? It's easy? Just delete all them social media
app again, and also like easily because after after about

(01:05:14):
a week, I didn't miss any of literally, and they're
telling me to get on Spotify. Yes, it's different though
I don't have an addictive thing with Spotify, just different
social media stuff where I'm like, well, can I ask
how did it feel to physically stop the NFL for
at least two good quarters. I was so proud Zoe

(01:05:35):
shut down the internet as as young and say, shut
down the internet. The dress that you wore bafta stayed stayed, Yeah,
stayed number one. Um. Usually during the super Bowl they'll
take the all the commercials and whatever the associated with
the super Bowl world, take the top five positions on

(01:05:55):
Twitter and dress a Google search. Yeah, and so literally
and so literally when the when the super Bowl started,
When the super Bowl started, Zoe's dressed was number one,
and I thought, okay, well, you know that would be
like eight minutes and then you know, super bowls and
literally until j Lo Zoe kept the entire super Bowl

(01:06:19):
out of the until Jason she had all his fats.
Oh that was just the greatest commercial ever. Yeah no,
but literally, no commercial, no commercial, no nothing topped Zoe's dressed.
I am baffled by that. But you look amazing. Then
I was like, she really did arrive. She's super ride. Like, yeah, Zoe,

(01:06:42):
do do stylists? Yeah, I have an amazing stylist. And Okay,
I feel like I should ask you fifty thousand of
style questions, but I know you know the time, but
you know, I'll just say this, it was nice to
be in an airport in Singapore and see your face
as the face of like at least three to five
different brands, dope ones to like to me in with
me and St Lawren. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I want

(01:07:04):
to know. I know people always coming at you. Were
you conscious and who you were like saying guess too
that yeah, yeah, I was very picky about who I
wanted to work with. To the Toomey thing was great
because I got to do with my dad and that
was a fun thing to do. And then you know St.
Lawren is a very just a prestigious house, you know,
so that was an honor. The freebies just wear old

(01:07:24):
navy underwear. That's not true. You're very designed. Yeah, come on, dude,
the pens alone, I get free. No free man. I
don't think I'm can give me one of the crowns
that you were because again, do you ricky? Like it's
just like hearing me, like they see me as a
walking guinea pig, Like here just wear this where our deer.
I haven't seen them in forever. I used to like
run into them on the They're working in the Keebler

(01:07:46):
elf shop designing my next thing. So I let him
out for hair. No, I'm just make me five pins.
So all right, well, Zoe, I got one question, Yes, um,
what do you nerd out about? What do I ner like? What? What?

(01:08:07):
What is something that if we got you talking about it,
you would not shut up the Sopranos? So then you're
just discovering it or no? I know, I didn't. I
was too young to really like understand why people were
watching it when it came out, and then watched it
a couple of years ago and watched it twice in
a row. And since then have I just picked episodes

(01:08:31):
and watch it. But that is something that I, um,
I'm just I'm completely obsessed with the Sopranos. And you say,
what about the series Conale? Do you want to talk
about it? I just want to know what you think.
I mean, do you think that that was the problem.
That wasn't a problem. What happened proper? It's fucking genius.
That's serious. Finally, almost, I won't say almost broke up

(01:08:53):
the roots, but there's there's a near fight because I
thought that Kamal had sat on the remote. It's like
those and I look and I was like wait and
I look and I was like, yo, what the funk
man you talking about? And then like and then like

(01:09:14):
it just escalated here, but then like you know, like no,
the credits are on there, and then I realized, Oh,
that's what happened. Do you think there's any debate about
what happened though, because I don't understand. So what do
you think he died? He got shot? I believe that, Yeah, Chase,
here's he's in the restaurant. Someone came in and killed him.

(01:09:36):
So in the seat. In the season before, there's an
episode where he's talking to someone onto Bobby and they're
on a boat. They're on like a little canoe thing,
and Bobby's talking about, what do you think it's like
when you get weacked? And he says it probably happens
like that. You probably don't even hear anything. It just stops,
it goes black. They literally give that to you. But

(01:09:56):
you said the season before, yeh, I have to pay attention. Okay, alright,
Well just because that exists the season just because you
said that doesn't mean that that's I'm pretty sure that
I think so. Here it says while Chase has an
insisted they're leaving an ambiguous of course because it's more
interesting to do that. But to me, it's just they

(01:10:17):
they gave you the information and then they did it.
They cut to that right before or any time and
in the seat, so and so they did cut to
yeah they do. I think it's maybe the episode before,
but they do cut to yeah, they do. They so
they even give it to you again. I need my
now is to be like power. That was a perfect
stories for now. Don't don't. I'm not telling you. I'm

(01:10:38):
just saying. I mean, you know it was artistically. I
just need answers. I need to know. We've been in
this guy subconscious the whole time. We see his dreams,
we see everything from his perspective, and then all of
a sudden, when he goes, we go it's fucking amazing. Wow,
you just freshen her head. That's why I've never heard
of nerd out about anything so passionate. But did you
like the movie Inception or did you see the movie Inception?

(01:10:59):
Did you pay attention it? Yeah? It was it was hard.
Did you like did you like the ending? Remember the
ending is whether he's still in the thing stands and
we don't see if it drops me on, Yeah, it's
the same thing. It's like, you know, fill it in yourself.
But you see, I don't think it is fill it
in yourself. I think it's like I think definitely, I
think I think that with I think with the soprano's

(01:11:20):
end inception, you can go either way. And I'm I
don't not eating one that goes, you know, on either side.
I think either one of them is a good interpretation.
Now I agree with Joey, thank you, But I mean,
I do think that Tony was shot. But you know,
I'm not against anybody thinks you know that, it's just
you know, life went on. You know what I believe.
I think I believe that candel Phoeney's son has also

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gone on records, uh, saying the same thing. Here's the
weird thing he said, he never well, you know, he's
now playing what dude, I want to go to soprano?
Like this is like, hold on, is there gonna be
sopranos coming back? What do y'all say? They're making a movie.
They're making a pretty David Chase is doing it right. Everybody.

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So they're making a movie. And Tony's son now looks
like him. Uh, you know, of of Tony's teenage years.
So they're doing a prequel to it, but he said
that he purposely didn't watch the show, and then when
his dad passed then it was really hard to watch.
So he just finished watching my god six Soprano episodes

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like in the last year or so. The favorite actor,
favorite actor, I mean in Mexico, like Mexico. He was me, Yes, yes,
I mean Edie Falco as well. I mean just like
to me. In terms of storytelling, the balance between comedy
and drama and horror and violence. I mean, I've never
seen better storytelling than the Sopranos. Have you seen Breaking

(01:12:53):
bed Yester Again? My top three is Breaking Bad Sopranos,
and then the Wire good list shout out, Okay, we're
gonna we're doing We're doing a list. So you still
put Sopranos above it all. Yeah, the Wire, the Wires

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genius and and and I've never seen anything like that before,
Nothing like that had been done in terms of like
the perspectives of all these different people, but in terms
of also just like straight up entertainment on top of
the genius. The Sopranos like I cry, I laugh like
three and seconds next to each other. Like I would
say that if we weren't on the mic, but on
the mic, I'm going to say the Wire, that's how

(01:13:35):
black I am. I think black people are afraid to
say that because The Wire has now been so fetishized.
Well not just that, but also because it was such
a collection of so many actors, and a lot of
them were amazing, So it's like, oh, you want to
it's it was, It's hard Sopranos Wire. I just meet
it in the middle because they yeah, yeah, Sopranos and

(01:13:58):
my heart But who still watch What Happens Live? What's
happening now? All right? Steve Johnson and Martin Lawyer? Because
you know good well I was talking about watch What
Happens Live, and you are it is totally his favorite show. Yeah,

(01:14:19):
he loves watch What Happens. Yeah, Sopranos is the best
out of all those things you're talking. Yeah, easily. I
haven't seen Breaking Bad though. Well, I'm really disappointed that
you two didn't fight. But this concludes our episode of
Quest Loftprove thank you Zoe for coming on our show. Yes, uh,

(01:14:42):
ladies and gentlemen, please uh support and watch High Fidelity
on Hulu. Um, and uh all your other endeavors and
your solo work, Jack Anson off. I'm really proud of you. Man.
This means that you're gonna have to eventually come on
the show and sing yeah, Wow, Yeah, it's gonna happen.
You nervous. I'm so proud of you. All right on,

(01:15:05):
behalf of Boss Bill like Sugar Steve. You know what
he got his name? All right, it's not important, story short,
Come on, man, alright. Is giving me many diseases? Diabetes

(01:15:27):
is one of them. We'll see it go around. Oh
I've already faded out one? Two three? How we do it?

(01:15:57):
Kurt Yes? Two three? How are we doing it? Big
Willie style? How we do it Big Willie style? How
we do it Big Willie style? Big Willy stuff? Two three?

(01:16:18):
How we do it Big Willie style? How we do
Big Willi style? Man? Say it with conviction to how
we do it Big Willy style? How we do it
Big Willie style? Are you asking? Can you? Can you
play it? One more time? Two three? How we do it?

(01:16:44):
Can you play? Can you play the track again? Can
you play the track again? Please? All right? I'm I'm
I'm gonna turn a new leaf and just just not

(01:17:04):
saying nothing. Do you say? How we do it. I'll
do it. I just need I'll do it. Just just
say how we do it? To how we do it?

(01:17:26):
You know it's tick whinny Star, how we do it?
You know it's tick Twenny Staff. How we do it?
You know it's tick Twenny Sta. How we do it?
You know it's pick WINNI. How we do it? You
know with chick whinny st how we do it? You
know it's how we do it. Let's go to next
long Like I could literally hear you getting in the

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black character, Like you're like channeling Alright Street character from Yonkers.
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