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July 30, 2025 75 mins

On this episode of Quiet Please!, Mel and Kira break down a big week for the UK — from the Lionesses taking the Euros title to Lottie Woad’s impressive win in her professional debut at the Scottish Open, and of course lots of frolicking on Jet2 holidays. 

Then they’re joined by the original friend of the pod, Cosette Chaput — co-founder and CEO of Always Alpha, the first ever female-focused sports management company, and also Mel and Kira’s manager. The three chat about the changing landscape of Women’s sports, how that’s impacted the field of sports management, and what it really means to work in sports. Plus Cos has been there for Mel and Kira through the good, bad, and hilarious and tells the story of how this very podcast came to be!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quiet Please with Mel Reed and Kira Dixon is an
iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports
and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back

(00:23):
to Quiet Please, Hi Mel, Hello Kira. I just I
feel like I should offer you all these congratulations. It's
been such a big week in English sport for women.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Thank you. Where would you like to start? Should we start?
It's up to you. Where would you like to start?
I'm quite having to start wherever.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Well, last week you said that the winner of the
LPGA Scottish Open was going to be a first time winner.
You were correct. I don't know that you thought it
was going to be Lotty Woad, but you finally had
a prediction that actually came true. So congrats on that
and then the Lionesses.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I know, I know, Okay, let's go to Lotty first.
I think, because I don't you know what to say.
I'm kind of a bit speechless that we have this
incredible talent from England coming through and just absolutely dominating.
I mean, she won the Irish Open, kpmg Irish Open,
what less than a month Ago as an amateur the
professional event, and then she finished third at Avin a
couple of weeks ago, which then got able through the

(01:17):
kind of it's kind of like the PGA Tour U
system where you can qualify through points. Being in college,
took a card and she won by three shots in
her first event in the Scottish Open. She said, she
was like, this is fucking easy.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, not a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'll just I won my first one by six, even
though I was an amateur, and then I'm just gonna
win this one by three because I wasn't feeling it.
So she's got the British Open this week. I mean,
just insane. She had three boys.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I mean, is she gonna win the British Open? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Probably?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's my fiction, is Lotty. I was winning everything the
rest of the year. She's going to win the next
thirteen event.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
First, you heard it here.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
First, she's going to win the next thirteen events on
tour and she's going to save women's golf.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I think that's what that's what she's going to do.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, well, let's not put some pressure on her about.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
It.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh my god, it yeah, Okay, Latie, if you're listening,
I'm only joking.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Peed one down. Don't you worry, girl, I'll let you
find your feet for a bit. But just so impressive.
I mean, she's just she's really it's really exciting. It's
really hard not to get excited about it. And I've
always been that person that I've said, listen, can everyone's
calmed down, especially.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
In the media, because yeah, you can come out the.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Gates quite quickly, but it does take a little bit
of time to find your feet and get.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Adjusted to tall life.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
But she's making it extremely difficult to do because she's
being so loud with her game that it's impossible not
to talk about.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
How does she not go nutso after that, like in
terms of like personally, how does she keep it together
stay to the things that have gotten her to this way.
I think that that's the hardest part is once you've won.
I agree, that's the easy part. And now it's the
she's in a whole different stratosphere. She's just a regular
girl from from Farnham, from yeah, somewhere in the and

(03:02):
she carry on and she's a regular girl that's really
good at golf. I don't know it's this sat Is
it from some random place, you know?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
We're such a small little country. Yeah, there's a little
segments to it. It's incredible, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
She's killing it. So how does she just stay that
person and keep doing this?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
You know, I fall about this quite a bit of
the last kind of a couple of days. I felt
like she was gonna win going into the weekend. And
I honestly think and like her winning like an were
her winning all the college stuff has really set her
up for this. And we've spoken about it so many times,
me and you, not just on here, but like on
a personal level, like how these athletes coming out of college,

(03:45):
men and women, are just fearless and they're just ready
to go. Like these college systems do such a fantastic
job at preparing these athletes to go into the professional game.
Like there's no there's no need for a step board anymore,
there's no need to ask almost the older players for
any advice. They kind of just everything's kind of set
up for them already, and I feel like they're just

(04:05):
so well pedigreed to it, it's crazy. And so I
really think she's gonna be She's gonna be fine. Yeah,
she's just got I think I think just be where
your feet are would be my biggest advice. You're going
to get pulled left, right and center, and I think,
you know, just stay true to herself.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Maybe we can get her on the podcast, Oh shall we?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
You know, she's really made it big.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, exactly. She's doing a few more times to go
our podcast here.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, come on, Maddy, maybe if.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Maybe she's a bit of will have a discussion with
that producer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
So yeah, awesome, really exciting for women's golf, for women's golf,
for English golf. She's certainly you know, I'm covering the
British Open this week and I'm gonna actually look into
it and I actually think she's she's one of the
most exciting, if not the most exciting player to come
out of you know, English women's golf in a very
very long time.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
So it's exciting for us to watch for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Okay, Well, everybody tune into life from this week so
you can see a mel get into it.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yep. I actually just tried on my outfits.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
So are you going to wear your hair down?

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I am, actually I'm going to do it. Mm hmm, yeah,
I'm feeling it. I started wearing it down with a
hat on.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So I'm what did Kai stadio this week?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Okay, give this context.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
He's been waking up at dick o'clock, so, like we
are quite tired at the minute. And I walked out
and he Kyle is making breakfast and he goes said
morning buddy, and he's like, my hair was down for
everyone for a reference, and he went, mummy hair up
and I was like, oh no, it's okay, Mommy's going
to be no hair up mummy.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now, I was like, okay.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
So I obviously looked like shit of him, so we're
a kid. But yeah, Also, just quickly talk about KAYI.
Did you see I got rid of my turnlnes this weekend?
And if you notice, oh, congratulations, thank you. This big,
this big is the first time ever my feet had
been brown. So we bought Kay a splash pad because
it's so hot here. I mean, so you know, it's
like so hot and quite bothered do anything. So I

(06:01):
did you notice the horse in the in the pictures?
Did you notice the horse in the splash pad?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Like a real horse?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well no, not real horse, like a toy horse, but
a big one.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh oh okay, okay, no, yeah, did Kay say it
was a donkey.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
No, he knows it's a horse.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
So because a lot of people are asking me, and
so I just want to clarify this if any of
my followers listened to the pod. So our lovely neighbor
came round when I was away once to carl and said, hey,
I found this on like a random street, and I
thought Ky would like it. And Carlo's like, what is it?
And bought over this horse, this toy horse with hair.

(06:38):
I mean it's it's full blown. It's like it's quite tall,
like he can he can't get on it without its
helping him. And so this horse, you know, I was
a little bit skeptical about it, like it had.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Been found on the street. But guy is obsessed with it.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
And Kay makes me kiss it every morning, and it's yeah,
he makes me it. He feeds it his milk like
he prop looks after it, kisses it on the nose.
And then we'll not leave it alone until I kiss it.
We'll be like, mummy kiss.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Does it have a name?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Horsey?

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Good chak you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
And so we put it in the paddling pool and
he sat on it and just look like a cowboy.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
And yeah, I have like washed it.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I was gonna say, yeah, if you're kissing the horse
off the street it.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, so I was washing it. It's probably dirty now
I've kissed it, to be honest, so.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Rewashed. So anyway, that was the story of the horse.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Okay, great, and then lastly the lionesses one again.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
So I get all of my lioness's updates from the
Royal Family's Instagram. For some reason, I wasn't getting fed
like the Yeah, it wasn't getting official ESPN post or anything.
It was all like the Royal Family's official you know.
On behalf of the King and Queen, we'd like.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
To extend the warmest congratulations and heart felt proudness of.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yes, very hard felt so on behalf of Charles, Camilla
and me. Congratulations, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yes, we beat Spain the final.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
It was a little bit of a shit show, all
torn out for us, but we managed to get through
bit grit.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know, England never gives up care you remember that.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I do know.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
We beat Spain.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
They beat us in the World Cup lash year or
two years ago, two years ago, and we beat them
this time in the Euros and Colotter called me straight
away like a good old sport that she is and
said congratulation to the lionesses.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
But yeah, it was awesome. Did she she did?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
What great sportsmanship on display? Was she nice in the
car or was she angry?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
She was very nice. Coloss was very very nice.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
I was a little excited, so I was probably annoying
just saying how great England.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Is, but yeah, it was good.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Listen, it's it's incredible how much women's football has changed.
So it's awesome to see the girls did a fantastic
job and it's about bloody Tommy brought some silverware home
and it's only the women that can.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Do it here. So there you go, there you go.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I watched a bunch of fans celebrating videos and I
don't think that that existed ten years ago, where.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
It definitely did it.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
People would be because obviously England football fans, as you know,
are a little cray and they get excited when things happen.
But I feel like that only happens around men's football.
So to see, you know, massive crowds of people falling
on their knees and screaming, crying, throwing up.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
It's great. Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Speaking of England, I just have to say, have you
heard that that sound on Instagram? That's like, nothing beats
a jet to holiday.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
It's all I listened to.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
And this week you can say fifty pounds.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Fifty pounds, Yeah, down and hold my head.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
All here, I'm washing the dishes. Nothing beats a jet
to holiday. I'm walking Steve. Nothing beats a jet to holiday.
It's just on.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
It's so good.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
So I've got Lardie Woad, I've got the Lionesses Jet
to Holiday.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Jet to Holiday theme. Put it in your tiktop. But
put frolicking on holiday. It's like a it's when people
get caught frolicking on holiday. So like when you know,
you know what frolic is?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, like dancing through a field or something not quite.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
When you have a few too many cocktails. Oh, you
just find you can't are really sexy and you just
cannot wait to get to.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
The room, so you just do it there and then yeah, yeah,
take care of it.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, that is not a frolic. Oh, this is our
language barrier frolicking.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I just will if you.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Say frolic in America, that's like a who We're gonna
frolic and jump around and like, have never else threats
and put flower crowns on and stuff. Yeah, no, Frolic,
I don't think I needed to see people doing that
on No, it's really funny, It's really funny.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's really This is like.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
The time you told me that was really funny when
it was that show where you could see people's actual todgers.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Oh peckers and todgers and stuff. Yeah, yeah, that was
naked attraction.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, that's where our really funny, humored divulge.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I'm just trying to branch you out. I'm so proud
of you.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Anyway, one question for you on Lottie and then we
have a fun guest today that we'll get to in
a second. But I know that you kind of this
is a weird position for you to be in. But
as a third party, non biased observer, not in your
actual position with Solheim, what do you think her chances
are to play Solheim?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Extremely high?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I would say I think basically she would have to
really struggle, I think to not Now, well, let's just
say she doesn't get in automatically, which I think she
will do to be quite honest with you, But if
she doesn't, she would have to do something quite dramatic
would have to happen for us, I think to like
not even consider it.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
So I just she's too long.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
It seems like the second wave, like this new generation.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, she's just playing way too loud. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
You just cannot ignore this, you know, you know, you
can't sign it's excellence and this is exactly what's happening.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
You can't silence excellence.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Wow, thank you.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Deep thoughts from our very own mail read.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Okay, going from follicking to inspiration.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Sorry, I had to get us back on the rails there. Okay.
So the reason why we are sitting here today is
because we have an agent that we share name Cassette Chapit,
who put us together and helped us figure out having
a podcast and is why we're friends and all of that.
So we thought what better guests to have on the

(12:34):
show than Cassette because she is first of all, one
of our bessies, but someone that is so interesting to
speak with when it comes to the business of sport,
is women's sport, building your own empire within a very
male dominated field. And then she also has lots of
great stories about us.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
So unfortunately, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Or fortunately depending on how you look at it. But
Casset is our guest today.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, she's awesome. We keep saying, why are we interviewing?
We're like, you're such a badass, But she really is.
I feel like she well, she is moving the needle
and I feel like she just got it before, you know,
a massive map like I feel now at the movement
is happening with women's boot. But I felt like her
mentality was like that even.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Before, way before.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, way before.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
So that's just why I've we both have said this
many many times, like weo Cassette. You know, we're never
gonna be able to repay what she's given us, but
she's fortunately become a really good friend to both of
us and we just love her to death. She's she's
just an awesome human being, and the w's a better
place having her in it.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh, it really is. It really is. So we're very
grateful for cos. We hope that you guys enjoy the interview.
I'm sure everybody's going to get so much out of it,
especially all the great stories about Mel. And we hope
that you love the interview.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Bye bye, Mel and I are so excited for today's
guest because not only is she a friend of the pod.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
All of our listeners have heard this name over and
over again, but she also manages both of our lives.
She's the reason why we have this show. She's the
CEO and co founder of Always Alpha, Cassette Chappit and uh,
we love her so much. We're so lucky to know
her and have her in our lives.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Wow, Kira, what a niche. I feel like I'm glad
this has been recorded. You know, we did just see
each other in London, which was lovely.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
We're so bad now.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
I love how you two saw each other in London
and I was in America, like it made me very
upset in Frisco, Texas.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
It made me.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I kept being rude to Kira. I was like, please
stop sending me nice things, like I just.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Kept sending her pictures of Approl Spritz's.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
I know.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
I'm like, I literally was. I had the biggest pomo.
I already have the biggest pomo. When you two and
like Amanda as well hang out and I'm like, oh,
it's in my home country. It's been a heat wave,
like everybody loves England at that time, like we messed you.
But anyway, I'm glad you guys had a good time.
I'm glad you guys had to get.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
It felt weird. I actually realized that I don't think
we've ever We've been all around the world, many crazy
places together, I don't think we've ever been to London together,
which seems.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Seems like upcoming trip anytime.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Did you know that Darby, where mel is from, is
spelled with an E and not an A. I learned
that recently.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
I did. I did know that because I believe.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Well, it actually used to be spoke with an A.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
But the way you say it is so I'm like
googling Derby and got a town in the middle of England.
There is one named Derby.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
No, it's Derby, yeah, but it used to be spelt
with an A like years and years and years. It's
like one hundreds years ago, and then they changed it.
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
You know who's a Derby fan nile, which takes me
back to I know, a story you've already told on
the pod. But now whenever you say Derby, I just
think of the comedic sitcom that went down at the
Masters of you two trying getting trying to get you
two out of that party was a highlight of my
ear and really sums up my job.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, do you want to retell from your perspective just
in case people forgot so it gives people an idea
of what you have to deal with.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
First of all, it's very much us to be fair.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
It knows as well enough final that that was just
is not It was just not right to try and
get me in to help you out.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
It was a failed experiment for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
So this, this, I feel like, does sum up Yeah,
both my job as well as each of your personalities
as well a day in the life. You know, when
kids come up and they're like, oh, I want to
be a sports agent. You know what it's like be
a sports agent.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's like, whoa.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
There are many things I love about it, but there
are elements of babysitting that you know you must be
you must be aware of and walking eyes wide open.
I also say that having three little brothers was the
best training I ever could have for this job, because
I feel like I've just been you know, wrangling cats
my whole life. But yeah, this was a extra special

(17:05):
story because so we as you mentioned on an earlier episode,
we were all at a master's We had a dinner
that night with the two of you, and Amanda and
another friend of the pod and client and friend of
Alpha's and Olivia, and so Aman and Olivia were going
to the restaurant. It was a very hard reservation to

(17:26):
get a very exclusive event. We had pulled a lot
of strings to get the table. I also think we're
the only table of women at that whole event.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh yeah, there were a few other women, but the
only all female.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, the only Alpha Alpha table. So the three of
us go to an event and I say, Kira drives us.
So Mel and I are in the back. Kira's driving.
I say, okay, we have twenty minutes in this event.
Then we got to get back on the red and
so you know, we go in the event. Everyone's mingling,
and now twenty five minutes has passed. I'm like, okay,

(18:00):
time to go. But Kira is in a conversation with
Nile and Colin and a few others. Mel horn yes
of one direction, and so I say to Mel, hey,
why don't you go grab Kira because we had one
other friend with us, But Para, I'll grab her a
divide and conquer, you go grab Kira.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
We gotta go.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
So Mel's like, got you, no problem. So Mel walks
up to Kira with you know, Melvin confidence, and I
see them talking. I'm like, oh, I'm so proud. Actually
this I didn't know if Mel had a dinner. Okay,
this is great. You know the kids, they grew up
so quick. And then Kira starts walking towards us, and

(18:37):
Mel turns around and now I was talking to Nile
and I'm like what So then Kierra comes up, all right,
time to go, and I'm like, well, now can you go? Now?
I need you to go get Mel.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
She's like, oh, that's right, so.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
She gets Melt. Then yeah, it's just a shit show
getting into the car.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
No, the best part is when Mel came over to
get me and she was like, we have to go.
I was like, okay, bye and kiss goodbye.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
And I'm like, you're driving as you idiots. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I was like, well, we need you to help us
maneuver the car, which you have driven and have the
keys to.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Oh but then in two seconds between Mal you reminding
Kira that she was indeed coming to dinner with us
and driving, you then forgot that you also had to
come to dinner with that needed to be in said car.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
She wanted to talk to Nile about Darby.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Will listen what we were talking about was Starby County.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
But then the best person, no one's concerned to accept me,
and so then you know, you guys always choke. I'm
getting when I turned into Mamager and I'm like, they're like, oh,
mom's getting in Mom's getting stressed, and I'm like, we
have to go. I was like, well, do we have
a dinner at the set time. I'm like yes. She's like, oh,
it's a reservation. I was like, yes, we talked about this.
What time is it? What time is the reservation? Eight?

(19:49):
What time is it right now? Eight?

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh sakes, Oh, you take twenty minutes to get there.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Oh, Amanda's texting me, where are you guys going on?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
This is the worst because of Amanda hates being the
first one there, happy to wait for people. She's having
a complete anxiety attack at the restaurant or.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Not so funny, but great dinner, Great dinner.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
The food was great. Shout out Rayos.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Sorry we were a little bit late.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Sorry sorry, Amanda.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, that's so emblematic of what you get to deal
with day in and day out, but you also do
so much more than corral the kittens. You know, this
has been it's been about a year of always Alpha.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah. Yeah, we got up and going last summer and
then had our public launch in October.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
God, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Do we want to back up a little bit and
explain how we got here before we get to Alpha?

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (20:44):
You're the captain of the ship. Okay, this does feel weird.
I'm usually in charge. I feel like you guys are
in charge today.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
So you know, a lot of people get to where
they get because of somebody that they knew, or their
parent or whatever, which is which is great, But you
were one of the few people that has accomplished everything
to this point because of like sheer will and determination.
I think that's a great lesson. So can you take
us back to like U Chicago and that first job

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out of school?

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Absolutely no. It's it's crazy because I feel like most
days I still think of myself as you know, in
college or an intern, and then somehow we're all adults apparently,
But news flash, you know it, never I feel like
growing up. You always think, you know, adults have it
all together, know everything, And I feel like my biggest
lesson in adulthood is no one knows anything, and everyone's
just to make it till you make it. Some do

(21:36):
it better than others.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
But yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
I grew up in a tiny town in Colorado like
five thousand people. I love sports. I played every sport
under the sun. When people say, did you know you
wanted to work in sports, the honest answer is I
didn't know that was an option, Like I didn't know
what was on the menu, you know, I guess you know,
I've seen Jerre Maguire and kind of knew the idea
of a sports agent, but certainly I had never seen
any female sports agents. And you know, sports is a

(22:01):
hard business to break into if you don't know someone
or you know, have your parents work in it. And
that wasn't my story. So I knew I loved sports,
but I didn't know what that meant. And so yeah,
I went to college at University of Chicago. I ran track,
which is now funny being in business with the most
decorated track and field Olympian of all time, Allison Felix,
because feels a little less impressive to say I was

(22:21):
a D three college track athlete when I'm standing back out.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
But I also ran track Alison.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
I guess that's all we connected because we basically are
the same person.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
A fun fact that we need to, you know, use to,
you know, have a fun bet in the bar or
something is Allison actually never ran college track. She turned
professional in high school and so she went to sc
The USC track is named after Allison, but she never
competed as a nc doua a athlete because and I
all wasn't a thing. And so a fun fact between
Allison and I, only one of us was a collegiate

(22:54):
track athlete.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yes, and that would be a collegiate track It would be.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
What was your Google?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
What did you run?

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Triple jump? Triple Wow?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Could you still do it?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Oh my god? We have to get it filmed.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
You have to get it filmed.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yes, obviously.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Can do it. So okay, also retreat perfect Olympics. I
ran check in college. Actually I studied politics. Is when
Obama was in that White House, and he lived when
he wasn't in the White House. His house was in
Hyde Perk, which is where the Chicago campus was, and
his chief of staff for the first term, David Axelrod,
had actually left and come back to lead the political

(23:36):
science program at Chicago so study politics. Thought it was fascinating,
but realized I did not want to move to DC.
I did not want to work in it, but also
realized that politics and marketing are basically the same thing. Like,
at the end of the day, it's influencing someone's behavior,
whether it's to vote for someone or to buy a
product or to like a brand. It's all a bit
of psychology. So I just, honestly I hit the pavement.

(23:56):
I look back, I was probably very annoying. I sent,
you know, probably fifty emails a day for weeks to
every alumni or any email I could ever find. Social
media was just just you know, starting to exist, and
so I remember I had an internship at a PR
company and like walking in and being like, Hey, there's

(24:16):
this thing called Instagram. You guys should be on it.
And so I got lucky in that sense of as
at the right time of understanding social media, learning to
figure out how to use it. I actually wrote my
senior thesis on a Twitter's impact on presidential policies, which
was wild, and even more wild because the first three
professors I took it too told me it was not

(24:37):
a serious enough topic, which yeah, was crazy. I'm sorry,
sure I got so. I just got my foot in
the door at a PR agency. Then I worked at
experiential agency, and then I became a baby during the
winter and couldn't do the cold anymore. So that I
moved to LA. Was working at an advertising agency and
always trying to like work on sports projects. But my
break into sports came about a decade ago I got

(24:58):
I got the job to run the social media, social
and digital media for LA's bid for the Olympics, which
at the time they were bidding for twenty twenty four games.
And this was back in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, which
is crazy now to think about. So I got that job.
For two years, I ran around the world trying to
convince IOC members to bring the Olympics to LA. That's

(25:19):
where I met my business partner now Allison, her brother Wes,
who's our co founder. Allison was at the peak of
her career about to compete in Rio, but traveled around
the world with us, you know, not being paid, just
to use her voice as the athlete perspective of why
it was so important for you know, US athletes to
have a home games even though she wasn't going to
be able to compete, and so I got to know them.

(25:40):
I worked with, you know, hundreds and hundreds of athletes, Olympians, Paralympians, influencers,
et cetera. And so that was kind of my break
into talent management and social media management and you know,
Olympics and sports and culture and politics. It was such
an interesting melting pot. And then at the end of
twenty seventeen, we made the deal for Paris to take
twenty four, LA to take twenty twenty eight. So at

(26:01):
that point it was eleven years until we're the Games
were going to be here. And I love the Olympics.
I grew up right outside Colorada Springs, which where the
Olympic training Center was. My first field trip was to
the training center. But I realized, you know, I didn't
want to do the same thing for eleven years, so
I moved over for commitment. Yeah, big commitment, which would
have been it was a dream job. It just was

(26:21):
a long time, but I moved over. Going back to
social media, I moved over to Wasserman, which was talent Casey.
Wasserman was running the bid. Yeah, so in Wasserman, which
was you know, one of the top sports talent agencies,
and so I moved over there. And really, this is
when you know, athletes were becoming media channels and monetizing it.
But there's a lot of older agents who just didn't
understand what it was, or were afraid of it, or

(26:43):
didn't know how to make money. And so I moved
over to the talent management side of the business honestly
started helping other agents strategize and you know, teach them
how to make these new revenue streams with their clients.
And then slowly but surely started signing my own clients.
And the two of you and Amanda were my first
three clients.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
That's crazy. So, like, how long have you been with Cassette, Kira, this.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Is like your relationship. You know, our anniversary was coming up.
I want to say twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, I think twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Twenty eighteen sounds right. I remember hearing about Cassette from Amanda,
and she was telling me about this girl that's like
helping her with all these cool deals and getting her
all these awesome appearances and blah blah blah, and like
it's been such a great part of loss for her
and I was like, I want to work with Cassette,
and so I was like trying to figure out a
way to meet her, get her to pay attention to

(27:37):
me and know who I was. This is when I
was like first starting out in golf media world. I
was just starting with USGA stuff all of that, and
I met Cassette. You were probably there mel playing at
the LA Open at the Wilshire. Yeah, at Wilshire she was.
I was there for an appearance. She was coming out
of the clubhouse and I was going in and I

(27:57):
was like, oh, your Cassette, and I grabbed her arm
and I was just like, I'm I'm so sorry. I'm Kira.
I've been waiting a really long time.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
To be I knew. I knew who Kia was by
the way. I was like, oh, Kira, Miss America's talking
to me, Oh my god. Cool.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
And from there I just annoyed her until like eventually
because I ended up working with another agent at WASSS.
But I really wanted Cassette to be on my team.
But but Causette was still like anytime something would come in,
like you were you had like your finger on the
pulse of whatever, and you would always try to bring
me into stuff and then eventually jumping through a bunch

(28:33):
of hoops. I was then on the team with Cassette,
and then eventually it was just Cassette, and then obviously
when Cassette made the decision to go to start her
own company, that was a no brainer for me to
go with her. So but I just remember that so
clearly and manifesting like you will be my friend, you

(28:55):
will love me. Oh that's so funny, Mel, How did
you encoast me? Uh?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
We first met.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Well, actually, I've got to give a lot of credit
to Claude Harmon to be honest, because I was practicing
at the Flow at the time, and I was just
talking about like how I feel not very valuable, like
in a brand setting, and I don't really know what
my identities and badi blah blah, and He's like, oh
my god, you have to be accept who you repped.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well still Rep claud right.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Yeah, he's over tooken token.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, he's grandfathered in. Yeah so yeah, yeah you can
find an angle.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah he fits right in to be fair.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
But anyway, he was like I would like, I was like, please,
how the hell do I get to speak to this
woman like I have to, like, I need some help.
I don't think I had an agent at the time.
In fact, someone had just taken some sponsorship money off me.
Because that was the first thing that you did was
get that money back for me.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yea, and by taking money as someone you're old agent
had stolen from.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yes, Yes, and we did get that money back. We did.
So anyway, we had a conversation.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
It was me, you and John, wasn't it Yeah, And
I was like, I think it went well to Carli,
I was like, I don't know, like I wouldn't be
surprised like if they didn't want to have me. And
within twenty minutes, one of you called me and was like,
we think we can do really cool things with you.
And I was like, oh my god, okay, like seriously,
and they were like, yeah, we can do really cool

(30:13):
things with you, like we'd love to see you on board,
and I was like okay. And it's really funny because
like I've worked with a few agents who have like that,
you know, and like they promised things and they're like
We're going to deliver this like it's very agently and
I'm like, okay, whatever, bullshit, Like you literally have always
been above and beyond delivering like what you say, Like
I literally I've said this to you before because that

(30:35):
like you have honestly changed my life in many ways,
but from a brand standpoint, like you've made me see
value in myself and you're just a fucking bad ass basically,
And I.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Just you've literally changed that phone called changed my life.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
So I do have to give a lot of credit
to the token mail of always ol fak Claud Harman.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
He can stay, he can stay.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
But yah, yeah, I always also say that KOs changed
my life because I've had many many agents, and you
were the first person that ever like brought something to
me and really changed my life from an understanding what
I could do with my brand, what I could do monetarily,

(31:14):
how I could grow, how it could see myself beyond
just this little golf bubble, and no one had ever
really done that before. It's such a rare thing to
find and to feel. And then you also just built
great community with all of us, with Amanda and mel
Matilda and you know everybody else that you know have
on board and everybody that works for you too. So yeah,

(31:35):
I mean it's really a first of its kind, Like
I can't think of anybody else, at least in our
space that does what you do for us. Like maybe
there's a an agent that's doing this like for golfers specifically,
and like a really beiche way. I don't know, I
hope so, But for us, like this is a really unique,
like amazing special thing.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
It's a privileged to be part of this group.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Like I feel like we're like doing really cool things
and uplifting each other. And that's the culture that you
set have always kind of driven into I think all
of us. Plus we do kind of like each other.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, I know, fail.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
God, well, I don't know if your goal is to
get me to cry. But it's always the nicest, the
nicest thing anyone's ever said. So thank you and right,
you know, the crazy like I you know, I take
it very seriously, right, we always say, and especially like
it's you know, these are hopefully ten year, twenty or
forty year lifelong relationships. And yes we're doing business, and

(32:30):
yes we want everyone to make a lot of money,
but it's also our lives, right, and it's a very
intimate relationship. It's a very you know, important part of
you know, your lives. My lives like you know, representing
someone is not something I take lightly. You know, anyone
who works with us takes slightly, and so that means
the world too to hear it. And on the flip side,

(32:50):
you know, the two of you have changed my life.
And Amanda, you know you were as much as you
were saying I believed in you, you guys also believed
in me. You know I was when we first met.
You know, I to a lot of people, you know, unproven,
and you know I didn't have, you know, the flashy roster.
I didn't have, you know, the the decades of experience
that so many others you know said they had. But

(33:12):
you know, you guys took a chance on me. And
I feel like what's been so special is we've we've
grown this together and then you know, to change my
life of you know, a year ago, a year and
a half, two years ago, when I started to think
about you know, building always Alpha with with Allison not
having a name or a business plan yet, or just
just this idea of you know, the work we're doing
together so special and the upside and potential of women's

(33:34):
sports is so massive and beyond comprehension that you know,
it feels like there's something here. But I it's terrifying
to leave a big company, and that's terrifying to start
a thing. And there's zero chance that you know, i'd
be in this chair, that always alfa would exist, that
we'd be having this conversation if the two of you
and Amanda didn't you know, didn't a believe in me,

(33:55):
pushed me to do it. And then I'll never forget you.
Guys always said, you know you tell me to you said,
you always tell me to bet on myself. You have
to bet on yourself and basically you have to take
your own advice. And that's something I think about all
the time. And you've changed my life.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So okay, you know, you're like a boss lady.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
And we've had a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
We've had We've had a lot of fun. We've had
a little bit of.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Fun all over the world, all over the world. Actually, Kiret,
when you were saying before, we directly work together and
I would bring you deals. One of the deals I
brought you was for the Mexico Best Friends trip, which
then you couldn't come to, which then.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Wire is still I can't remember why I couldn't come
but it's still one of my biggest regrets in life
because this trip is it was continues to provide content
for years and years after for years.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Oh my god, that was one of the best like
three days of my entire life because it was just fun,
like we were basically treating like a like a bachelorette
and but we did actually work. I mean we should
call it work because that's actually what we said. Well,
I actually did a lot of posts.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
You fulfilled, you fulfilled your contracts, filled my car, filled
your contracts.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I did, yes, which someone in the group didn't quite
get it done in time, and it was.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
It was not Amanda, although Amanda still says from that
trip that, uh, the scariest phrase I've ever said is, well,
would you like to be in breach of your contract?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Cassette can ever say to you, if you anyone out
there listening, if you ever get an email that says
the word candidly, that's how you know you were you
are in the ship from Cassette. If you use the
word candidly.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
She sometimes sends me an emoji and she's like, Hi,
just checking in again, and I'm like, oh shit, what
did I miss? And then I'm like, oh, no, I shouldn't.
I've definitely needed to reply.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
To that about four days ago, but I had three
emails to do it.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I completely got taken a track you emails now, I
know I really do emails.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Just a business woman.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Fucking help that woman. We don't have to get into
that ship.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
But that she was so funny because I've never seen
Mamaja like Cassette before, like like we'd obviously worked together,
but no, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
We had really met.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
No.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
I mean we had met in person once or twice,
but you you know, we started working together during COVID.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
For the first six months we didn't know each other
in person.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It was all exactly yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
And then honestly it was the first time and I
just remember Amanda going ooh ooh, she's coming. She's got
a very like stern step in it. I was like,
she's going to tell us off for something. And you
were like, hey, guys, like, don't drink that fucking water, like,
don't drink it like this. I was like, okay, yeah,
I got it, like she was proper mamag like. It
was hilarious. And then there was this one.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Night You're welcome for not getting sick. I know that's
what I'm hearing.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
There was this one night and we were just obviously
were just exhausted because we've just been twats basically for
three days, and we were like, sat, like can we go?
You're like we have to stay until ten thirty. I
was like, I know, but it's like ten, Like can
we go? And she was like, smile, be nice and
you sit here until ten thirty. And we're like understood.
But like literally we all three were talking about. I

(37:05):
was like, Amanda, you do it. You're the oldest, like
you start.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Doing school kids.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I was like, you try and ask her, trying to
ask her, like you've been with her the longest, like
you'll be fine, and she was like, oh fucking else.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
She's like okay, and we knew as soon as we
asked you. We're like, oh oops.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Unfortunately candidly exactly, And in that contract it required attendance
at this stag. Yeah, I think that's what I said. Well,
you could leave, but then you would be in breach
of contracts. So what I would recommend is you sit here,
you smile. If we wait, we do our social posts,
and then we collect the money. They're paid.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Well a random trip anyway.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Oh and Kia could have been there.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
You know, I don't know if they this particular these
particular folks would have us back, but I'm sure there's
somebody else out there that it.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Was a weird time that was during COVID it was.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, So I actually have a a serious ish question,
like you obviously working in sport, like can you just
kind of go into the difference between male and female
athletes from like a brand standpoint and like getting endorsements
in Like I think I'm the LPGA especially like I
feel like women's sport is obviously taking off, but I
still say to the LPGA players and actually been around

(38:20):
like you know, the women's business smit like speaking to
people in the industry, like women have to be so
much louder than just their sport, Like you have to
create like this brand around you if you want other opportunities.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Is that what you think?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Is that what you find the most challenging thing when
you go into these companies and.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
One hundred percent and I mean not only is it
the reason we built our business as the first management
firm that's only fully focused on women's sports, and you know,
female athletes, broadcasters, influencers. But it's also happens to be
my favorite topic. So so glad you asked Mel, Wow.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
What a great podcaster?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Right, oh, this question.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Taking a step back, I think one thing people know
but don't always realize is just how different the business
of men's sports marketing and women's sports marketing is. And
one thing else, and I say a lot, which you
know usually is met with what, but then you know
most people come around is I don't think women's sports

(39:15):
marketing has never existed until very recently. It's been men's
sports marketing that's included women. And what we mean by
that is if you look at brands like Nike, like
State Farm, like Gatorade, they're spending more money now to
have more women on their roster, and that's great. We
want them to do that, and they're amazing partners and

(39:36):
that's certainly a piece of the ecosystem. But that, to
us is still men's sports marketing that's now including women.
Where women's sports marketing, how we define it is who
are the companies who fully depend on women to stay
in business? From a consumer standpoint, you know who you
know makeup companies like Sephora, you know Skincare, you know

(39:57):
mom brands any you know brands who literally are selling
only to women. Women are their consumers have all the
purchasing power, and how do we get those brands into
women's sports and really leveraging you know, talent in the
women's sports space. So you know, the Aphoria deal, the
coach coming on with the WNBA, like, those types of
deals I think are just a very very beginning and

(40:19):
really groundwork of women's sports marketing. Like even when you
look at Caitlin Clark, who's incredible and changing the industry
and you know, doing amazing things, her portfolio from a
brand perspective, if you look at her portfolio at least
initial partners, it's almost identical to you know, Lebron and
Michael Jordan and you know men who have come before her,

(40:41):
which again is great and we're not saying that money
shouldn't be there, But I think the bigger opportunity is
how do we create an entirely new category. And then
the second point we like to of just how the
model of the business is different in how we're building
alpha in a way that wasn't possible inside. You know,
some of the bigger agencies. Is male athletes tend to

(41:04):
make around you know, seventy eighty percent of their income
from on the field of play, so team contracts, et cetera.
For women and female athletes, it's the inverse of that, right,
they're only making twenty to thirty percent from playing contracts
and the rest of that is coming from off court
or off course money and marketing. So male to your point, yes,

(41:25):
it's you know, to make even remotely, not even the
same amount of money, but to start to even you know,
build wealth for you let alone. You know, hopefully we'll
get to generational wealth. You're not going to get that
by your playing contracts, at least not right now. You
know what Caitlin Clark's making what eighty grand from?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yeah, So just the business itself is so different, and
so you know, these big agencies they're built, you know,
they were built for male clients, and the way they
make money for their male clients is much different than
the way you know, women are making money. So I
think those are small nuances. But the way you build
a business, the way you structure it, the way you
staff it is completely different. In what we're trying to

(42:04):
really redefine with Alpha.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
What's been the most exciting part of getting this message
out to the world and what's been the hardest part.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
The most exciting part has been just the reception. You know,
the you know, we as we were building the business
plan and as you know, we were having these philosophical
conversations you know, amongst ourselves. You know, you can sit
around a dinner table all day long. They're like, yeah,
we're onto something. This is great, We're brilliant.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
We are brilliant.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, I mean because.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
The market doesn't respond. But launching it and just seeing
the reception and not only from talent, but also from brands,
from from you know, from potential employees or other women
just working in the market of you know, oh a
different place to work. So just the validation that this
is needed and the industry is excited about it, and
you know the number of people and conversations we've gotten

(42:53):
to have again from marketers, from talent, from media, just
you know, the excitement around and support reinforcement that you like, yes,
keep going, this is where the tides are moving. And
you know, having that community of women's sports where even
you know, on paper quote unquote competitors are all working
together to just how do we make this pie bigger?
How do we all work together to really shepherd in

(43:14):
this new era. That's been really really exciting and really fulfilling.
I think on the opposite end, you know, the frustrating
part is just you and talking to people who just
don't get it and you know, just still think that
women's sports is a charity or still just don't understand
the power of female athletes and broadcasters.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, well they can't sit with us, so bye, yeah, yeah, bye.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
I mean one other just immense highlight and this is
probably more selfish than anything, is just the the clients
who've gotten to work with, you know, starting with the
two of you, and you know, the roster we've felt.
I mean, I'm just I'm obsessed with everyone on our
roster and it's just you know, the most impressive, driven, smartest,
but kindest women who not only are the best at

(43:57):
what they do, but want to build their platform and
then want to use that platform for good too. And
I think I use this example all the time of
just money means more, and you know, the revenue means
more to our clients, Like you know, I worked on
the men's side for a really long time, and I
had amazing male clients. I got very lucky. But you know,
for it's just it's a different again. It's like a
different game. You know, A five hundred thousand dollars appearance

(44:19):
for you know, a male client would be an inconvenience
on a Tuesday, whereas a fifty thousand dollars partnership I
secured for you know, one of our female clients was
them calling me in tears that they could buy a house,
like you know, and just that. So just the fulfillment
of like I feel like we're actually building not only
platforms that matter, but also you know, hoping helping each

(44:41):
one of our clients build, like that money matters to
buy a house, or to start a foundation, or to
put their kid in school or you know whatever those
those things might be.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, yeah, and that's I mean, it really has been
life changing when we when mel and I talked about that,
it's not just hyperbole. It's yeah, legitimately gives us a
different Lisa on life, the value and stuff. So it's
a big deal. Something that I got to be a
part of with you recently was the closing bell at
NASDAK and you invited me. You're like, oh, you know,

(45:11):
do you want to come to this closing bell thing?
And I didn't quite appreciate how big of a deal
it was. And I told my father in law about it.
He's a businessman, and he was like, you know, this
is a very big deal, huge honor. Make sure you
stand in the right spot for the picture when they
do the bell and blah blah blah, and like okay.

(45:33):
So we go in and it's this massive production and
the Nasdak people are so they've got it down to
a science. But it just that day in the city
in Times Square, with all of our faces flashing up
on the billboards in Times Square was just such a
massive moment of like, oh my god, she is doing it.
This isn't just some girls sitting around at dinner table

(45:54):
saying wouldn't this be a great idea? Like this is it?

Speaker 4 (45:57):
That was a wild day. Honestly, I don't think any
of us fully knew, you know, what to expect, or
the scale of that. And obviously, you know you've heard
oh nassack and ringing bell and obviously most of the
time when someone's ringing the bell, it's their company, IPO
ing or you know, a massive event happening. And so
our our parent company company called Dolphin, they're listed on Nasdaq,

(46:19):
and so we had worked with NASDACK a little bit
on our launch day and they had you know, put
up graphics on their billboarding Times Square, which was great
and you know, we got to take that photo, which
we thought was was amazing. But then when they reached
out for International Women's Day and you know, invited us
Alison and I too, in our chairman Bill to ring
the bell, We're like, oh, yeah, that sounds you know,

(46:40):
that sounds great. What a cool way to you know,
celebrate International Women's Day. But we invited, you know, obviously
all of all of our alphas, and I'm so excited
you could come in your in your power suit.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
You both had power suits. You both looked great, very good.

Speaker 4 (46:53):
It was an amazing day and yeah, a really affirming
moment of Okay, we're we're doing this. And to see
I don't know about you, Kara, but one thing that
really stopped me in my checks is right before you
go on, which to your point, it is a production
and by the way, their stage manager is a rock star.
She was a.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah wow.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
She was like the ultimate. You know when you go
to like a school and they give you a tour,
or you know, you go to a theme park and
they say, like, you know, please keep your hands and
feet inside the right at all times. But that to
like the highest level ever, like, all right, everybody in
this group, you're gonna come through here, You're gonna stand here. No,
everybody clap, now, everybody smiles. Get the next group through.

(47:37):
And she is so efficient.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
I was like, we need you, I need you, my
friendly but great, yeah, yeah, I need to cheer. It
was almost like if you've ever gone to a TV taping,
We're They're like, okay, everybody club clop clop clop. Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Next, Oh my god, that's brilliant.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Plane. There was confetti, which no one loves Confettikira.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
You guys. The confetti was so great, so fun.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
But the coolest, the coolest moment to me is they
play this hype video right before you take the stage
to ring the bell, and it's this montage of every
basically every iconic CEO business for the most part men,
some women, but you know, everyone from Bill Gates to
Jeff Bezos to Steve Jobs to literally like Boom boom,

(48:26):
and they played this hype video and it is hype,
but it's also probably it was the most exciting moment
of oh my gosh, we're about to go do something
that you know, every person I've ever looked up to
or you know, admired or read about has done. But
then also, holy shit, what did I get?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, because you had to speak on live television.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Yeah it was only thirty seconds, No, it was. It
was a great moment and a great day to be
able to celebrate, like, Okay, we're we're doing this, and
now how do we build from here? Yeah? And I
didn't chast out.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, well done.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
And you spoke Actually, I think I texted you her,
so you spoke so fucking well as well. Like I
was like, because like I've I've never really seen you
in that role before. I obviously know like how bad
as you are and how great you are, and like
the way that you communicate with people, I've never seen
you on a stage like that, and just the way
that you conducted yourself, the way that you just held yourself.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
I was I think I texted I was like, that
was really.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Good, Like wow, Olivia, and I cried, oh did you Oh?
That's we just we all walked into the room when
we first saw Cosette, and we were just.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Like, well, first they were banging. They like, it's in
Times Square and there's the small of windows where you
can kind of see it. And so I had gotten
there a little bit early with Alison, and then all
of a sudden, we see this commotion and we look
out the side and it's Ki and Olivia out square.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Emotion is a great way to that's so good.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
That's so good with Kayla as well, Yeah, it was
your best.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, oh my gosh, a fellow alpha.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
By the way, we're we are working on to get
all the alphas together, because again I'm upset.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, we have to do that.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
So yeah, yeah, we require it.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Now, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I don't know if you've noticed, but I make all
my friends be friends.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yes, well you've got good friends.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
So so I just wanted to ask, like, when you're
so with athletes. So I've always been quite intrigued by this.
I think I've asked you this when we've had a
drink before. But like, for example, I can only speak
from the golfing world, but like there's a lot of
the natural personalities of golfers to be quite introvert, So like,

(50:35):
how do you start to brand an athlete who maybe
isn't as comfortable to be on social media and things
like that, or is it you just like, well, I
don't know if this is aligned with what I'm trying
to do with you, So maybe this wouldn't be a
great relationship. Like just talk me through, Like how you
even start branding the athletes, Like how do you get
their personalities out in them?

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Yeah, but it's a first and foremost it's the buzzword
of the century. But because it's true, like it has
to be authentic there. You know, there might have been
a small window, you know, maybe early on in social
media where you could get away with a bit around that.
But now that I mean consumers, fans, you know, followers
are way too smart. There's way too many options. You know,

(51:14):
you have to be authentic if you're trying to be
someone that you're not, or trying to put on a
persona like it's just it's not you know, no one's
going to buy it. It's not gonna be good for you.
It's you're not going to build a following. So I
would say the first thing we start with is just
who are you? What do you care about? And not
because you know what you think will do well on
social or because it's just you know, are you Are

(51:34):
you into legos? Are you into snowboarding? You know? Are
you into makeup? Are you into fashion? Are you into
you know, love island? Like whatever?

Speaker 1 (51:44):
You know?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Just yeah, cameras into very much Wicked the musical.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yeah, Wicked the musical, which is a whole separate conversation. Shook.
I saw Waked for the first time and I was
I was shucked.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
We're welcome to talk about it in Velvet love it.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah, just talk about it went on, not on us?

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Okay, sorry, I continue.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
So it starts with just, you know, learning about someone
as a person. And then so there's okay, what are
your kind of authentic pillars if you will of your
life that you you know, what could you how do
you spend your life? What are those pillars? What are
your interests? And then it's the second layer of which
if any of those, are you willing to share? And

(52:23):
when we say share, we don't mean you know, have
a live stream going twenty four to seven, and it's
okay if you're scared of it. Or uncomfortable, like that's
where we can really help of you know, creating content
or giving ideas or here's the best practices in the strategy.
But there has to be a baseline in my opinion,
there has to be a baseline of you know, want
and desire to share that. Otherwise I'm and this might

(52:46):
be an unpopular opinion and maybe others in the industry
feel differently, but we're only going to work with anyone
who wants to grow brand and wants to grow a platform. Otherwise,
you know, I just don't think it's a good use
of anyone's time to force anyone to do anything. So
it's who are you how much of that are you
willing to share? And then from there we kind of
have assessment, you know, and being very real and honest
of like, okay, here's where we can build or you know,

(53:08):
if you're not willing to share this, then if you're
going to do something, you got to do it all
the way. If you don't want to do it, that's
totally fine, And if you just want to focus on
your sport, that's totally your choice. But then you know
you're going to leave a lot of money on the table.
But don't do it, you know, half assed.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
We had Selina Samuela on the show recently and she
said that she goes everything full ass, which is I
think a funny way to say it. So I think
that you go full ass on everything you.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Do there you do you have to. There's too much
competition out there now.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Well, I also feel like maybe not so much now
that you're you know, you're the boss lady, but like
I feel like you worked pretty much like that's the
people don't stand with the sport agent as well, like
because sport is just going on pretty much, you know,
twenty four seven, like you have to pretty much be
twenty full seven as well.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
And it's a client facing business, like people are constantly hey,
I have a problem with this. Can you help me
with that?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
You missed a cool cassette with a problem. Not that
like hey I did this, or I don't.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Think I I I don't think I'm bad about it.
I think I would only call because that's like no,
definitely not. I think I would only call if like
something was truly wrong.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Yeah, And that's what I mean, that is that is
the business, right of there's a lot of I joke
with my team of You know, the good news is,
you know, we're not chained to a desk from nine
to five. The flip side of that is, you know,
sometimes you get calls at two am because something happened
or you know, or you end up in you know,
in Dubai, stranded on the way to Pakistan. You know. No,

(54:38):
so it just head missing and half your forehead missing.
Me how these things happen?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, well these things happenedn't wait because what was it
like seeing Bell come downstairs in the hotel, seeing her
rug carpet burn on her forehead?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
It was as moment Kara, thank you, I.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Would say, confusing because I had been with Mel all
night until she walked in her hotel room, and so
I saw her walk in her room and with full face,
and then met her a couple hours later for breakfast.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
With half my.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Yeah, you know, as glamorous are not glamorous. You know,
part of the job is you're making sure their clients
get inside there. I thought I had done my job.
I got her in her hotel room.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Yeah no, it's you know, yeah, you have to eat
me twenty four seven sets to be a safe I
won't do anything fucking stupid. I think you've realized that
by now. I've got better since being a mum, but
still I have my moments.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
We did end up sharing a room the next two nights.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
Yeah, we had to escape.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Yeah yeah smart.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
You know at verse three, who like, what's been the
wildest call that you've got out of me?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Kira and Amanda?

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Yeah, I mean there has something any too, too crazy?

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I feel like I have definitely called you and been like, ooh,
I did a fuck up.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
We're coming back from Inland. One way, me and Carly
were coming back from the UK and my visa.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
He had two passports, so I'd gone in on one
passport but I need to come back in on another
because of my p one. And it was just very confusing.
And he asked me a question, and he says, where
do you live? Where's your residency? And I said the US.
He says, well, you shouldn't have a residence here. You
should just have a You can live here, but you
can't be a resident here, right, there's a difference in wording.
And I was like, okay, fine, I live here, and

(56:20):
he was like, well, no, you already said residence and
no one. He's tea in the back and I went,
this is ridiculous. So I just had a long day
and had a very long day, and Carlie's obviously gone
through and we've got like an hour and a half
to our next flight, and they put me in this
room and I'm like trying to text Cassette like fuck,
like can you and he's like, sorry, no phones.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
And I was like, yeah, okay, just give me one second.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
I just need to I'm trying to get you the
documents to show you that I'm fine. But he got
mad at me and took my phone away and put
me up against the wall and like made me put
my hands by my back and stuff.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
It was really quite scary, showered so hard.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
But am I supposed to show you my documents when
it's on an email that I'm trying to find for
you to sort all this out in two.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Seconds because it's completely legal what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Yeah, and yeah, basically he was like not listening to
me and then finding another officer here says hey, I've
done it, You're fine and let me go.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
But the officer was a complete dick.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Yeah, so I getta. I get a text from Mel
like basically s O S. I'm being detained in the
Atlanta airport and I'm like and then they're taking my
phone and like that. And then I'm getting a call
from Carly's like, hey, I'm through security, but Mel's disappeared.
They've taken her somewhere. And so then and again I'm
trying not to freak out Carly, but I'm like, well,

(57:34):
I did just get to SUP. And then, to be fair,
we had just been through like nine months of hell
renewing her visa because it was in the middle of
head and we.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Had to.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Yeah, things that you yeah, and then they lost their
passport and going to be there and so and again
things that you don't think necessarily a manager deals with,
but they do not the glamorous side. So we had
been but we knew for sure we had, you know,
all these documents. So then you know, the thought the
type of thoughts that go through in my head. I'm like, okay,
and I I have a copy of this document that
she needs, like jo I need to get on a

(58:06):
flight to Atlanta to go client and prove that she can.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Be Yeah, actually I don't.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
It was because just because I said the wrong word
and I was like, oh, I'm sorry, I mean live
and he goes, well, you've already said residency now, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Like, you're being a bit of a dick. Like you
being a bit of a dick right now.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
It's always interesting when you have to hire a lawyer,
you know, whether it's yeah, different types of different types
of lawyers. There's also there's I feel like this more
on the men's side, but you know the stories you'd
hear from the older agents about you know, being the
one to tell someone they're getting divorced papers or yeah,
all the things, which again I feel like one of

(58:48):
the benefits of having female clients is, yeah, just bless
of that.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
A little more. What's the what's the difference between an
agent and a manager?

Speaker 4 (58:59):
It's a great question. So in the entertainment world there's
big differences manager and there's legal differences of Yeah, I
think you can be a producer as a manager on
a film, but not as an agent, and there it's
much more regimented. But everyone like manager is really your
your quarterback, your overall strategist, your partner, you know, looking

(59:19):
at managing all aspects of your career. And then agents
are special basically specialists that you bring in for different projects.
So again in the entertainment side, you know, you have
a manager, and then you have a scripted agent, you
have a non scripted agent, you have a book agent
if you want to do that, you have a podcast agent.
You have basically the managers the center of the wheel,

(59:39):
and then the agents are spokes that you bring in
for different things. In the sports world, it's really interesting
because it's pretty much the standard has been that you know,
one person just does it all. Maybe like a lot
of the big agencies, you know, manager and agent are
kind of used interchangeably and it's you know, kind of
a one stop shop. I'd say that's starting to slowly change.
Like some of the big NFL stars now they have

(01:00:01):
someone who's a manager, and then they have someone who's
an agent or someone who does their playing contract, and
then someone who does their marketing. And so it's starting
they're starting to specialize or diversify a little bit. But actually,
I very much believe in the manager and agent ecosystem,
and so we built always off actually as a management firm,
So we want to bet managers and then any areas

(01:00:23):
that you know, we don't have expertise in or don't
have staff, you know, we bring in. So for example,
with both of you, I'm your manager, you know, I
oversee you know the trajectory of your career. So yeah,
all the marketing, you know, the podcast, you know, all
all the pieces we've talked about. But then you each
have one area I don't you know that isn't my
expertise as broadcast. And so each of you have you know,

(01:00:44):
a respective broadcast agent that we partner with to make
sure you're getting the best broadcast opportunities and deals possible.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
And like if we wanted to write a book or
something like that, you would then bring.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Down, bring in a boocation.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, but you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Would manage that process and like make sure that everything.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Is yeah, the center, center the wheel.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
How many christs do you have?

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
It?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Always?

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
Elf? For now, we we have twenty exclusive clients.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Wow. Yeah, yeah, there's more really and just the three
of us than me, and we have to share.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
I want everyone to have the magic of Cassette in
their life.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
But also they're all we are very very diligent and
discerning about you know, who the right fit is, who
we because we do really see this as a community
and as cheesy as it sounds like a sisterhood and
you know, uh, a sorority of sense. And so you know,
in addition to obviously business opportunities, you know, from a

(01:01:42):
personality standpoint, we take it very seriously, like who who
would be a fit and honestly also being honest about
there's some people, you know, can we do a good
job for you? Are we the right fit? You know,
we're the first to say yes, but we're also the
first to say, you know no. You may have an
amazing business, but you know, actually my friend over here
at this agency would probably be better because they're you know, here.

(01:02:02):
So the last thing we ever want to do is
you know, mismanaged expectations or just say yes to business
for money's sake. It's more, you know, what are those
long terms that we were growing? I don't if I
told either of this, but we have two more talent
managers starting next week who are amazing and they're going
to be signing their rosters. So it's exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Scar's a limics.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
How would you, from your perspective, describe how Quiet Please
came together? Because the podcast is really I mean, both
Mel and I have wanted to do a show. But
you are the one that kind of really made this,
the idea that came to life come to life.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
These are the most fun projects because to be able
to see an idea go from you know, just an
idea thrown out out a dinner too now you know,
a very full circle moment being a guest on Quiet Please,
These are by far to me the most rewarding things
to work on because it's just it's so cool to
see see it come to fruition. And yeah, this was

(01:03:06):
a long time in the making. I mean, I think
you're starting with you. I want to say, you know,
back twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, when we were first talking,
you had always said, you know, I think I went
a podcast, you know, what does this look like? And
then we actually we had an opportunity, you know, a
couple of years later, and we went pretty far down
the line of looking but just it never felt quite
right and we know there's something here, but what does

(01:03:26):
it look like? And you know, you always trust we
always had very honest conversations about your ability to be
patient to figure out, okay, what instead of just doing
something quickly to check the box. I want to make
sure when we do it, we do it right. And
then same for email on the other end. You know,
you had talked very early on about using your your
voice and platform, you know, to build build a community

(01:03:49):
and build really something to meaning. And we had talked about, okay,
does that make sense if you're still play you know.
The thing with podcasts that I don't know if the
listeners all know, is it's a ton of work. It
is so much work. And I've had other I helped
Claude start his podcast, I've worked on a few others,
And whenever a client comes to me and says I
want a podcast, I'm like, okay, sit down before we
go any further, like are you willing you know, let

(01:04:11):
me lay out how much time it takes and how
much work it is. And it's not a lot of
money up front, you know, so if you're doing it
for the money, don't do it. And if you're not
willing to put you know, in significant time every week,
then don't do it. And you know that's where most
people drop off. But we had had both those conversations,
so it was always kind of in the works back burner. Okay,
what's what's the right opportunity you know, talking to different

(01:04:32):
networks and then Mel, you connected with someone at the
I hurt Kristen Kristin, Yeah, I remember you called me
from Michigan and so I met an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Yeah yeah, But I was never about doing it on
my own because I was like, oh yeah, I mean
I can talk, but I'm not really a host. So
like then we were talking and you were like, I think, Kurt,
if I'm wrong, but you were like, oh what about Like
oh my god, Carea would literally be perfect, Like I
would only do it if like Carer would do it
with me, because I love like she's a host, Like
she's very well spoken, she keeps me intact a little bit,

(01:05:06):
like I just thought it'd be funny, like I mean
a form miss American and lesbian, all unfiltered brit.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I mean, you could not love that dynamic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
I think it's been going well personally.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
But that's how it started, wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Yeah, that's how it started. But then you know, both
of you, because Carrie you had been talking. You know
that maybe a co host, but it also takes two
special people to realize, okay, we want to do this
together versus you know, Britt.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Yeah, I wanted a partner too. I really podcasting is
hard work in itself, carrying a podcast by yourself to be.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Yeah, brutal.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Yeah, because to be honest, like, I don't necessarily always
show up to a podcast at one hundred percent. So
if the other person is there, like they can help
carry the load, and you know, you get there together,
you're in it together. You have somebody to bounce ideas
off of. And yeah, so I knew that I wanted that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Couldn't agree more for me, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
A light bulb moment was also seeing the two of
you was at US Open work together for the first
time on Golf Channel. Because there was suchtory and there
was such there was such a dynamic, I was like, okay,
this this can work. Also, have you ever told the
story of when you two first met for the first
time in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
When she interviewed me when I was staying in the
US WiM's Open.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
I don't think we've told that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I can't remember this, to be honest with you, I
must have. I remember just thinking like gone because that
you just say it so.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
The first time. So, as I've mentioned, I really like
all my favorite people to become each other's favorite people.
So I talked to each of you about each other
a lot, but you had never met in person. And
then Mel is leading the first round of the Women's
US Open. Kiras they're working for Golf Channel in USBA
doing interviews. I fly, I think I was on vacation.
I was speaking of on Glamorous that. I think I

(01:06:44):
was on vacation in Mexico, and then saw the leaderboard
and got on a plane up to San Francisco to
be there, be there with Mel as she and so
I get there. We're in the media. I'm going with
Mel through media and here's their interview. And so they
set up and I was like, oh, you know it's me.
Oh you know, we both belonged to Cossette, we're both

(01:07:06):
cots whatever. So I have a great chat. I'm so
excited they're meeting Mel. And I get in the car
with Carly to go back to the Airbnb, and Mel
turns out in the front seat. For some reason, Mel
was driving, and she turns to me and she's like, gosh,
Karra was awesome. You know, I'm so glad I got
to meet her. I'm like, yeah, I've been telling you
she's the best. And she's like, I say, she is
really pretty and can I look at her? And I go, well, yeah,

(01:07:33):
I mean she was Miss America. Mel goes like literally
swerves off the road. I think we're going off this cliff,
like screw, you know, we're all screaming what she gets
back on the roadge she was Miss America.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Yeah, yes, I said, oh my, that makes total sense, like, yes,
I see it now, And like Carlie' is just completely
unaware of this conversation, so she doesn't even buy knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
It's like see herself a talent scout. She was like,
you know, I don't know if anyone's ever told she's
pretty exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I'm like, thought of it. She has great sinning, she's
pretty fucking hot, like she's she's a cool chick.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
So yeah, I think the whole country near that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Now I realized this now all over at the city listen,
I've seen her come downstairs now because I'm very aware,
I didn't know. If i'd seen her come down and
interview me from the stairs waving like this, maybe I
would have understood, oh, she looks like a bit of
a former Miss America. Plus I didn't even know these
pageants usted.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
To be honest, I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Thought it was people don't get pageants.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I didn't know it existed.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
So then I understood, Yeah, I'll never forget you looking
at me. She is really pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
It's very sweet of your mouth.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Oh you welcome, Okay, you now, please, funny.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
And here we are hours later. I know, Oh my gosh,
it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
People should know too, know, just want me decide, Okay,
this might be a good, you know, a great show
with the two of you. Okay. And then as we
got to know, I heard and what they're building with
the Women's Sports Audio Network, which obviously is right up
for Alley. But then, I mean, it was almost a year.
It was six to nine months of you know, a
lot of we're in that's where the work was. You know,
I can't take any credit with the two of you
figuring out structure of the show, topics, you know, names.

(01:09:21):
The photo shoot, like there's there's a lot of a
lot of work behind the scenes that you two put
in to make make this show great.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Oh the photo shoot, that was like the best day
ever for the cover art.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Well crushed, fucking hell. I was as stiff as a
fucking on and board, and Kira is there. Just every
time I look at it, she's in a different position
because obviously she's a form of Miss America.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Everyone like she knows what she's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
And I'm so fucking awkward and I'm just stood there
like a fucking piece of furniture.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
But you made it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
You did great.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Thanks photo great? Better at photos like I'm getting. I'm
learning a bit from you, well a lot from you. Yeah,
to keep moving, like even when I'm on the end.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Of a table. I know, well, I know, but it's
still it's just with me, just a bit awkward.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
I know it's awkward, but the photo turns out nicely.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
The next photo shoot. You hadn't even discovered fake lashes yet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Oh, Mels big on fake lashes these days.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
I'm not going on to you without my fa keyes Like,
I'm just not anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
I got to get you a brand, a brand.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
I'm sure that that would be hilarious. Get Ready with mel.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Oh, here we go, here's my moisturize, and then I
just stick my fake harsh on. Oh that was a
twenty second video. We're done.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Literally would purchase ten percent off.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Yeah, we should do some get Ready with Me content idea.
I feel like that about this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Anytime something comes up, no matter what we're doing, if
we're having a glass of wine, or if we're on a walk, whatever,
you know, we should really try to pitch that. Blah
blah blah. Everything's an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
It's so good, is it not? Yes, that's why we're.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Doing what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
It's really Yes, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
Brilliant, but it's authentic, authentic. Thanks. You already talking about
doing how do we package it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
And when when?

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Yeah? Because you know how we do our Shosh of
the week. I should have told you earlier if you
want to take a second to think about it, or
if you have something that comes to mind. But I
would love to hear if you have a.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Shosh of the week.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
I have. It's a silly one, but it was a debate,
A big debate at the dinner is that last night?
Can my of the week be? I'm over everyone's saying
that you can't wear ankle socks anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Thank you. Yes, I'm against that as well.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
I have I'm against it. You know what, gen Z,
you wear whatever socks you want. Yeah, but I love
an ankle. I'm just gonna own it. Ankle.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
That's a great ankle sock.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Aink sock. I'm not doing the tall sox. I'm sorry.
Call me a millennial.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
I like a tall sock every once in a while.
The outfit, yeah, calls for it. But as a rule,
now that's a rule.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Yeah, I feel like I'm obligated by long socks because
I'm a lesbian. But most of the top I work,
I'll still throw out mine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
But it's out of being a lesbian, not out of
trying to be gen Z.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Yeah, so when I missed my fly, I will want
ankle sock. It wasn't even a real sock, it was ancles.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
I love an ankle stock. Yeah, I was going to
say it, and I want to all the gen that
you First they came for our middle part, then they
came for skinny jeans, then they and I don't you know,
gen Z doesn't understand what millennials have been through, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Know, when they're no longer the cool generation.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Yeah, a fucking jeens and like those big belts and
stuff like you didn't have to go through what we
have went through. Of course, when high waisted come in,
we're like, oh my gosh, this is actually amazing you
can bend over and like everything stays in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Yeah, agreed, agreed. And now they're they're thinking that they
invented skinny jeans.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Yeah, get out of here, get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
That I like that. That's a great one, which she was, Kira.
My shush is all the things associated with moving. I'm
moving into a new house, as you guys know, and
there's just a lot of moving parts and a lot
of people that I have to talk to that I
would rather shush. So there's that I don't recommend, but
it will be great in the end. I'm going to
have a new podcast soon.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Yeah, but right now it's moving is quite stressful.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
Actually calling all different furniture companies if you're listening. We'll
need paper, we'll need one drugs, yeah, moving.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Rugs, Yeah. Open for all of the Please reach out
Cassette at Always Alpha.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Yeah, or home depot for me. I have my nut
hugger tool nut hugger.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
She's all into her power tools.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Ye, lows.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
It doesn't have to I'm not picking any past hardware
that you have.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
A little hate hardware, actually love I take Cayler every Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
You have a great community listenership. You know someone, someone's
either got to work for these brands or have a
friend or a spouse like, come on, let's lift each
other up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Exactly. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Also, stop stop wearing that course hat until they pay you, please.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Okay, called out. Understood I wearing an Olympics cup, but
that's because I worked it and they didn't pay me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Thank You're any winner.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
An every winner as is.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Okay, okay, I understood the assignment. I will never work,
but if anyone works works of course.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
And I would like me to wear this let me
know because any other your company, anything alcoholic would be
great for me right now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
I'm in my retirement.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
You were the first and only INDIVIDUALS has ever sponsored.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
That was a very cool brand to wear with. Actually
I enjoyed that one. You did well there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
That was a big deal.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Thank you, thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
All right, Well, no, I'm all good. I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
I'm going to go take my hat off and go
pick up Kai from daycare.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Why do we say, ladies, we don't work for free.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
We don't.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
We're not just happy to be here.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
We're not just happy to be here, and we don't
work for free.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
That's very true, understood, this assignment.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
We love you cos we are so grateful for you.
We're so proud of you, and we are excited for
the listeners that they get to meet the famous cassette
friend of the pod.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
A lot of pressure this love This looks scary, but
thanks thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Love you too, Hime, Bye bye bye. Thanks for listening
to Quiet Please. We'll be back next week with more
golf caps and we want to hear from you. Leave
us a review in Apple Podcasts and tell us what
you want to talk about. It just might be the
topic of our next show. Quiet Please is hosted by
Mel Reed and Kira Dixon. Our executive producer is Jesse Katz.

(01:15:26):
Our supervising producer is Grace Fus. Our producer is Zoe Danklas.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
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