Ep 40: Salmon Sperm Lip Balm, a Quick Dior Run, and Acing that Serve with Michelle Wie West

On this episode of Quiet Please! Michelle Wie West fills in as guest host to talk recreational tennis, K-beauty, and how she learned to appreciate golf after her first slump and wrist injury. Kira and Michelle discuss Ben Griffin’s win at the World Wide Technology Championship, rain in Japan, the future of the LPGA, and the process behind designing limited edition shoes with Nike. Plus, there's pageant drama. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quiet Please, with Mel Reed and Kira Dixon, is an
iheartwomen's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.
You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, hello everybody, Kira here,

(00:25):
Welcome back to Quiet Please.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Mel is still out.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
She is dealing with some family stuff and we hope
that she can come back and join us very soon.
But in the meantime, filling in as guest host this week.
You might have heard of her. She's won five times
on the LPGA. She's a major champion. She there's also things, Michelle.
She's an entrepreneur, she's pursuing a major tennis career, she's

(00:53):
pursuing a running career.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
She's a mom.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
There's that, and today she's guest host of Quiet Please,
which is a huge honor. I'm sure, Michelle.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Please welcome Michelle. We West.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
This is the biggest honor all the other stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
It sounds like I'm having a midlife crisis, to be honest,
but you know that's for a different conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
A slight midlife crisis.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
We both are going through one a little bit because
we both have weighted bests.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yes, yeah, I mean I'm all about the weighted best.
I'm all about bone density. Do you But do you
have a trampoline. I don't have a trampoline.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I live in San Francisco where I don't really have
room for one.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
But late should I know, no, should I be making
room for these things?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I think so. Lymphatic drainage is the next step in
this process.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Is the trampoline for lymphatic drainage.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
It is also for bone density. Oh so you just
jump on?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Is this like the little trampoline that McKenna has or yes,
Mckennasaw's daughter who loves.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
The transport purpose.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, it's multipurpose, you know, but it actually is amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
I don't do too much on it.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
I try to do, you know, like five minutes every morning,
but I don't really get to but if I am congested.
I saw this thing on Instagram, because Instagram is Bible
obviously for sure. I get all my scientific for evidence.
And there's this whole routine about like you like kind
of lean to one side, lean the other, and you

(02:32):
do like these certain movements, and I swear it all drained.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Out from on the trampoline. You're doing the yes's emphatic drainage.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, why if I could get a little one in
my backyard. Yeah, you just have the excuse because you
have a daughter. So it's not weird to have a
mini trampoline.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, I think, I think.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
I mean it's a very I think it's a very
la thing because maybe I picked up so la. It's
because one of my friends has it and she has
a six pack, and I was like, you know what, well,
if this will help me in the journey of getting a.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Six pack, I'm in. I'm sold.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Okay, Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I'm good. All I needed to see your hair looks
really pretty. Thank you. It's one of those heatless curl
sock things where you toil your hair around this cushioned
rod and you sleep in it.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Was it comfortable to sleep in?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, it's very comfortable. Huh. Red eyes?

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, I doing red eyes on flights. I do it
like sometimes if I I try not to put heat
on my hair as much as possible, because my hair
has seen some things through it.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
You've been now I'm kind is not the right word,
but you've definitely had some stages with hair and hair
colors for sure.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah. Yeah, correlates to how well I was playing.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Oh my god, pink hair playing great?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Or yeah, pink hair was my happy hair color.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, things got dark when it got
to like rainbow and purple.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah. Black was never great.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Block was I was putting horribly, So the direct correlation
with my putting actually too the color of my hair.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Strokes gained hair color exactly. Well, how are you?

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I miss you, Thank you, thank you for joining. This
means a lot to Melan Meat for you to step
in and hang.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Of course, any chance I can get to hang out
with you chat. I'm a huge fan of the pod,
so you know in the pod calls.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
You're a first guest.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I know I am.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
So that was big for us.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
We were like, who do we launch with for a guest,
and obviously was a great honor.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I mean it's like you know, when you're at school
and I don't know if they do this anymore, but
remember when, like you, for Pe, they would separate into
two groups, and you know you would have two team
captains and you just want to get your name called
and you don't want to be the last kid to
be their name called. So I feel like being the
first person to be picked on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I was the first kid picked. You're the first pick. Yeah,
you're an athlete. So that's what we're going with. We
need you for dodgeball. It needs you to be a crusher.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Off the team.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Do kids play dodgeball at school now? I don't know.
I think we need to bring it back.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I think they.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
My nephews love dodgeball, but I don't know if that's
because we make them play they're all under the age
of ten, or they're actually playing it at school.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I'm not sure. I don't know either.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I don't know that people play dodgeball in San Francisco.
There must be something, I guess.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
There might be a reason why they. Definitely they play
like soccer and a bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
But yeah, i'd say bring dodgeball back. Dodge calls kids up.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
You know I was good at kickball.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Oh yeah, that was fun too.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I'm good at running short distances. Long distances not so much,
which is why I I struggle with your running situation.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I stopped running. Did you do the half marathon?

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I injured myself.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
That you were still that you were still dealing with it.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's a lot better. But I now I run a
mile and I'm like, wow, that was a long run.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Okay, So so so go back. So you initially started
running just to get into running because it was a
great health thing. You've got some good friends that run,
and then you decided to run. It was the Nike
Half Marathon.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, so it was the Nike After Dark Half Marathon.
It was really cool and the whole sentiment of it
is amazing. It's, you know, a majority women half marathon
and we're running at night, which we're taking our power back,
you know, historically speaking, and it's really danger for women
to run after dark. You know, it's when we feel
most vulnerable.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Obviously there's been a lot of sad stories that have
come from that. So it's really about you know, taking
your power back. And I love the story behind it.
I gained seventy five pounds during my second pregnancy and
I was like, I just needed something to get over
like postpartum stuff, you know, just physically I just needed
like a goal to get back into it. And obviously

(07:25):
I had some friends that, you know, we're really big runners.
So we sign up for this race. I started training
and I felt really good, and so I show up
in LA feel very excited, and less than two miles
into the race, I think it was like a mile
and a quarter. We make the term just out of
the forum and we now have just left the big crowds.

(07:46):
I followed a pothole, which is very on brand for me,
so extremely on brand for me, and I kind of
like stumble. I didn't fall to the ground, thankfully, but
I enough where I think I like kind of hurt
my hip a little bit, and I continue running for
the majority of twelve miles that was left.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
So yeah, my hip was not great after that.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, I'm sure that the twelve miles after wasn't fantastic
for the situation it was.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
It was interesting, yeah, but it was. It was very
hard brand for me, but.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
You know I did it. After I got done, I
was like, oh, okay, you.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Know, I think we're good.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, like also I think playing professional sports, you know,
there was just such a high after you win. And
I finished the race literally dead middle. I mean, I
pr for myself, which I felt good about, but like
all I'm thinking about is I'm this tired I just

(08:57):
finished a half marathon, wasn't even a full, like, and
then I know people that do ultra marathons, and all
I can think about is like, wow, I feel this
like ruined after like the shortest probably distance running event
there is.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
You know, I'm like, Okay, this is just I know,
but you can't.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
The people that are in the front are like lifelong,
like professional runners.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I know.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's like me comparing myself to you in a pro am.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I'm the same.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's just like one. I just can't take the competitiveness out.
And I was like so hard to like pat myself
on the back for just finishing.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know, I would have been patting myself on the
Oh shoot my light dit I've been charging this.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Thing all day and it died.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
It doesn't every episode.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
It's such bullshit, Grace Leeve this in this thing is
the pain of my existence.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Okay, anyway, but can't you charge it in while you're
using it?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh that is a good idea. I would look at
you tech support could please.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Okay anyway, anyways, Yeah, it was just it just I
just felt like, I mean, it was an amazing race,
don't you performed afterwards? It was overall Antennat experience, but
just like for the competitor, it might inside myself, I
was just like, it just hurts slightly, you know, Yeah
that my pr was an eleven minute mile. It hurt
my soul knowing that.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So now we're not running anymore?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Uh not really. Now I am just all in on tennis.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Okay, So tell me about the scene, like how are
these ladies?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Are we making friends through tennis? Are we trying to
destroy them all?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Like?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
What's the what's the DRAMs? Honestly, it's so much fun.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
I was talking to my husband last night and I
was like, is this how you feel with golf? Is
this how people feel with golf when they're just starting out? Like,
all I can think about is tennis. All I can
think about is you know, my serve, my top spin.
If I could just play every day for like four hours,

(11:16):
I would be so happy. My day is so much
better when there's tennis involved.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's really sad.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
But I feel like, just from an exercise standpoint, it's like,
if you play four hours of tennis, you're, oh, you
don't have to lift, you don't have to run, you
don't have to do anything because there's so much strength
involved in tennis or your strength training is taken care
of your cardio everything.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Honestly, I've been working out a lot, I've been playing
a lot of tennis. I feel like the tennis has
really helped me to keep up my balls, my club heads,
feeding golf. I feel like I'm hitting the ball just
as far as I was when I was competing. And
I think there's definitely a correlation between the two and
it's really good for brain health and dementia stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Tennis. They have proven that it's it's really good for
your brain.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
And are you doing matches or what's the competitive situation?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
I am in two leagues currently, I'm in two three
old leagues.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I just played a match today. Wow, we lost? What
I know? I know?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
How should we go into Carrie interview mode? What do
you learn from this loss that you'll take into your
match next time that you hope to improve on, do better?

Speaker 4 (12:36):
So one pose, Okay, let me go into back into
my interviewing mode. One positive that I have taken away
from today's match is I recently found my serf. Wow,
and I was acing the ship out of it today.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
But we will not mention the.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Fact that I pretty much double faulted through an entire
game today, so that was pretty bad. But it's so
much fun. It's just like the woman that I play with.
It is so much fun. My partners, we have so
much fun playing ended up. It's been a really great
way to meet other moms, other you know, ladies here,

(13:24):
and it's great to be outside and be active.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Yeah I hurt, you know. Yeah, but that's not new.
That's just something that you have accepted.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
It you live with.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, that's a me problem.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I wish because the amount of travel that I do,
I just can't do consistent stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Like I can't join a league.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
So I would sign up, I would show up for
one week and then they would never see me again.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
So that's a bummer. But I did that last season.
It's totally fine.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, there's there's literally a ten escort around the block
from my house. I will tast it every single day
and there's always ladies playing out there.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, it's a really fun way to meet people.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Do I want more friends?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I don't know. Yeah, I think. Yeah, that's a great question.
That's yeah, that's.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I've had a time in my life where no new friends,
no new friends, it's hard to make friends as an adult.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
It is. It's very hard.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
There's just so much to fill people in on.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
But I think as I'm getting older and you know,
you have different buckets of friends, right, Yeah, I think
you have like your core like true, like real like
friends that we've you know, seen together. I think there
was different life stages like I have mom friends, I
have tennis friends, I have you know, golf friends, and
obviously they're all friends, but you know it's you know,

(14:56):
you need mom friends and five I feel like my
new tennis friends are you know a great addition to
my life?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Is it like tennis? You need someone to play with.
It's not like.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Golf where you're like I want to go hit balls.
I'm gonna, you know, go hit ball myself. You know,
Tennis kind of forces you to, you know, talk to
someone else where it's golf you don't need to, which
I kind of appreciate.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Golf is like, you know, if you need solitude and
to be with your own thoughts and just beat a
bucket of balls and which that's great too, that can
be amazing. Yeah, but tennis is good for community. When's
last time you played golf.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
I played Shadow Creek like a week ago.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Maybe was this the coke thing?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah? Okay, and your girl may or may not have
shot the sixty eight. Really, I think, I really think
that tennis is helping. Oh my god, Michelle, thank you.
I was hitting. It's amazing, little cuts all day, little fades.
It was so much fun.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
When's last time you had fun playing golf?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Other than that, I always have fun playing golf.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I do, okay, but I may complain the entire I
may complain the entire time.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I play golf.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
There you go, sorry, But I do have fun playing golf.
It's like you know that, you know that meme on
Instagram where it's like, uh, my toxic trait is that
I'll complain through my entire workout, but it's the best
hour of my day. Yeah. I do do that at
the gym as well too, And I think I do
that with golf as well.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
But you know, I have fun.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
I mean, I think that having fun with golf was
a learned thing for me. I think when I first
started playing golf when I was really young. I really
like being good.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
It's fun to shad in sixty eight. It's fun to everybody's.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Asked, it's just when you were young.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
It was just like, I like the tension of people
being like, oh my god, you're so good, You're you know.
But I don't think I actually fell in love with
the game until I started playing Bad, which is when
I went through my first big slump. That was when
I really started to appreciate the game, which is like
really strange.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Because right it was you.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Take away the oh my god, you're so good element
of it. Now I was saying, oh my god, you're
so bad. But the fact that like you show up
every day, it just it changed my outlook on the game,
because if I didn't love the game, I wouldn't have
showed up. If if truly the only reason I was
playing was because it felt good to the external exactly,

(17:30):
and then I wouldn't have shown up once once I
hit my sum. But then I think that's when I
realized and I must have loved it the entire time.
It was just like a realization factor of Wow, yeah,
this game is really cool.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
When when was that slump?

Speaker 4 (17:45):
I turned pro when I was sixteen and I was
on a trip to Stanford, like a not a recruitment trip,
but like a you know, when after you get in
and you test it out, they let you stay for
like a weekend.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Oh cool, Stanford.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
You know, I don't know, a visit like a college visit.
And I worked out with the team, and my trainer
at that time had me do backward sprints.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
So here I was doing a track workout on a
college visit and I fell.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh my god, that's so classic.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, classic me. I fell and I broke three bones
in my left wrist.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Oh yeah, I don't think I knew that.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, yeah, when you felt, did you did you know
immediately like this is yeah, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
You know you run backwards and you fall like in
a way. Yeah wow.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
And then that led to you had to take time
off for recovery.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Which not enough time.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
I think that's like one of my biggest regrets. I
just I was six seventeen at that time, and I
just I didn't know anything about orthopedic surgeons, like what
the process was, you know. Obviously my parents didn't know
as well. You know, they're not in that space. And
we went to go see my pediatrician.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh my god, Michelle, now looking back, are you not
just like, oh my god, why.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Did I not go to like Cedar Sinai or HSS
or like see the best orthopedic surgery Efford, Like.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Oh yeah, literally, yeah I was right there.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
No.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
I fled back to Hawaii, saw my pedatrician. He put
me in a cast. My bone still hasn't set proper.
That's what caused like all the you know, premature arthritis
in my wrist.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
It was just a thing. I know. I do some
dumb things in my life.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
No, I mean, but if you don't know, how are
you to know?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I mean, there's so many things that I look back
on where I'm like, I just had no idea, Like
I I you can relate to this. My parents are
immigrants and they didn't know how to write college application
or like that whole Like I ended up in a
situation where I probably didn't need to be, just because
I didn't know what else was out there, Like what

(20:09):
are colleges?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
How do you get into them? How do you write essays?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Like?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I don't know. They tried.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I mean, they did their best.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
They tried to help, they hired somebody to try to help,
and there's really so much you can do.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
So yeah, it all works out.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
And this is why I love the USGA and the
development of program that they've created. I think it's so
helpful in instances like this right where now they have
you know, psychi I'm not psycharios, sports psychologists that they.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Give a psychiatrists.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I know, maybe it's golf.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
You know, at the end of the day, you know
nutritionists like you know, strength trainers, like they just have
a built in team around these top junior players now,
which I think is is amazing. I wish, you know,
I kind of had it.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, but you know, you live and you learn, you know,
I am breaking news. I don't know if I'm allowed
to share this, but whatever. Voicing the US National Junior
Team documentary for the UA, I know, I was doing
an episode recording today.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, yeah, it's really exciting. That's awesome. I mean because like,
for example, there's this guy Chris Ventura on the PGA tour.
He is half Mexican, half Norwegian, and when he was twelve,
his family moved from Mexico to Norway. Because I asked
him why and he said, well, in Norway there's all

(21:34):
this like free healthcare and great resources. But a big
part of it was the Norwegian junior national team, and
they like, he got there when he was twelve years old.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
He immediately joined the national team.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
They paid for him to travel all over Europe to
play in all these big, high level events. Then he
got because of that, he was exposed to college coaches
and then through that he was able to, you know,
get into a college team, figure out what he wanted
to do to play professional golf. And he's like, if
I hadn't moved from Mexico to Norway and had that
exposure an opportunity, I never would have been a professional golfer.

(22:07):
So it's just like, think about how many people are
being left out in America or have been up to
this point because they just like, you don't know, you
don't have the resources and all that.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
For sure, I think I think it's amazing what the
issue is doing. Shout out to tiff Joe, who's it's
one of the coaches.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
So yeah, I think it's I think it's amazing what
they're doing.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I'm really excited to have this conversation five to ten
years from now and to see what these juniors have accomplished.
I mean a lot of the team members were you know,
are playing in Mizuho, and it's really fun. You're elping
to say Home America is open. We have twenty four
of the top junior girls there. So it's a lot

(22:48):
of fun for me now kind of you know, stepping
away from playing to really just be able to admire
and see the next generation, you know, and help them out.
And I kind of see it all come together at
at my event. It's it's a lot of fun, very fulfilling.
How many years are you now into hosting an LPG event?

(23:11):
This next year will be our fourth year. My time
flies and it's crazy. New golf course. Did I see that?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yes, we'll be at Mountain Ridge next year. Cool, that's great,
that's yeah, for two years, just.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
For two years, Okay, but.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
It's it's it's great, great facility, great golf course.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I think it'll be it'll be awesome.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
I feel like that's kind of the dream.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's legend status, to be able to host your own event. Yeah,
like that just goes to show what you've accomplished in
this way. Because you're my friend, I sometimes forget, like
you know, we're just going to whatever, like rote us
afore to pick up maakeup and then you're like, oh, yeah,
she also.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Does these things. It's crazy, proud of you.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
It was such a big bucket list side of mine.
I can't believe it happened so fast. And the fact
that it's now year four, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
It's I'm so blessed.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, but you work really hard to and you earned it.
So there's that.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, but you know, also very blessed, very blessed, very blessed.
You're also blessed with a lovely, supportive husband who's recently
into pilates.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
So that was the biggest twist of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
So I visited Michelle for her birthday a couple of
weeks ago, and the big breaking news was that Johnny
had requested to do pilates, but for like a specific
purpose because it helps with your golf game allegedly.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Yeah, so it's really cool here at our golf course.
The Summit Club sports Box and Pilates they have now
kind of merged and they've created this so sportsbox. For
those who don't know, it's a three D instruction instructional

(25:07):
app ai ai.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Okay, basically on your phone, you point the phone at
the person. Oh my god, this is it's actually we
are not pitching it correctly, but we also don't work there,
so it's okay. But you point your phone at the
person and it creates a three D avatar, not just
like a stick figure, but like a real avatar person.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
And you can see your movement with the.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Avatar man or woman, and the app will tell you, oh,
you have too many degrees of hipsway, or you're doing
too much something else, and this is how you can
be better.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's literally on a sportsbox webinar yesterday. Like the fact
that like I can't eloquently explain what sportsbox is is
quite embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I'm very sorry to the sportsbox team.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Orgy we love you.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
But I actually spent now like because when we invested
in it, I wasn't really playing, and I you know,
but I recently got into the numbers. I was in
the sports box. We have now have a sports box
studio at the Summit Club, so I went in and
what was amazing about it was that when I used
to try to make swing changes, I would beat balls

(26:22):
for hours just trying to feel it. I was in
there with g for like fifteen minutes, and we with
Ai right and are using our brains as well too.
We instantly figured out like the one number that made
a huge difference in my golf swing, and it was
hip sway because I was swaying my hips to the right.

(26:43):
I was kind of reverse pivoting without knowing, and my
X factor was low. Anyways, sports Box, they are using
my sports box numbers. They are using Johnny's Sportsbox numbers
as a baseline. And we now have figured out that,
you know, there's a reason why Johnny kind of gets

(27:04):
out of his swing a little bit. It's because his
left leg and hip stability really isn't there. So you
take that knowledge and you bring it to pilates, where
now the Pilates instructors is now curating this very specialized
Pilates program to.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Help your weaknesses.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
And it's so it's so incredible to see because even
just like the normal, even when you get a reformer
and they make you lay on your back and you
just kind of you know, do the pressouts you can
from then you can like see the weaknesses like Johnny
has a really hard time not to expose you know.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
It's diagnosed exactly. He has a harder time straightening his
left leg than he does his right leg.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I'm sure everybody has some sort of something exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
For me, it's my chest rotation to the left.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
And it's really cool to see how using your golfing
numbers and then using plates as well to help that,
it's been it's been really fun.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
And now for my you know, advantage, it's been really
fun to do pilates with my husband.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Johnny's a plates girl, you know, he is a Plates
girls and an.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Aloe yoga suit.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
I know.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
You'll be ready to go very exciting, uh, I mean,
I love. I mean Plates is really fascinating, like just
from a strength training perspective totally because I don't want
to lift necessarily. The way that you can strength build
strength through plates is uh mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, but I recently gone to weightlifting as well too.
Bone density, bone we are all about bone density here. Well,
I think I think, you know, you have to like
mix everything up.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
So when I'm home, I do like plates twice a week,
I do one strength training class. There's a cool strength
training gym in my neighborhood which I have told you about.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
And then I do.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Like a run or walk or play golf like you
know something outside hike and that's my weekend workouts.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I think that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Enough, right, really good, and you do a really good
job when you're on the road. I remember, you know,
seeing you walk every day, you cook your own meals in.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
The hotel room in a commitment. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I was just in Mexico last week and we'll talk
about this, but with the hotel that I stayed in
was the Nobu in Los Cabos, and they have a
sweet gym situation and also a really great beach to walk,
So every day it was like you have no excuse.
Every day I was in there really nice gym and
then walking the beach and I was like, Wow, this
is amazing.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Your trip was amazing. You and Hallie looked like we
had an amazing time. I had definitely felt a little
fomo there were very happy for you guys.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Should we should we do our golf ree cap now
that we've kind of transitioned to uh to Mexico. So
so the PGA tour was in Mexico, the Worldwide Technology Championship.
I just wanted to shout out the Worldwide team because
you know, there's lots of sponsors out there, but these
guys really go above and beyond, and they included me

(30:15):
and Hallie and everything.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
They invited us to every single party.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Halle who's our guest host last week, she was there
for Golf Digest, and I was there for Golf Channel
and they were just so lovely and nice and fun
and oh but the golf tournament, Ben Griffin won. So
Ben Griffin played on the Ryder Cup team this year.
Was the third win on the PGA Tour for the season.
The only other players to win three times or more

(30:41):
on the PGA Tour this season. I don't know if
you know this, Michelle Scottie Shuffler, Rory McElroy, and Ben Griffin.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
So wow. And he's getting married this year next year.
He just got engaged today.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
He's getting married in less than a month.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah to his bride syonce Dana, who's one of my
favorite PGA Tour wives. She so obviously Ben played well
every day, so we interviewed him every day and she
was always around and she'd be like, all right, Kira,
make sure you get the question what are the top
five things you love about? Dana into the interview and
like we laugh and ha ha. So at the end

(31:14):
of the tournament, we had the trophy presentation ceremony and
that was not on TV anymore, but I was doing
the trophy presentation. So in the interview there finally I
was like, all right, and Ben, what are your top
five favorite things you love about Dana?

Speaker 2 (31:30):
And he was so sweet.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
He spent like three solid minutes talking about Dana in
front of all these people in Mexico and like how
how grateful he is that he gets to marry her
in less than a month.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
It was, Oh, I love that.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
So they're really cute.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Oh, I love that I did it. When we're talking that,
we had to do a golf ree cap.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
I quickly google searched everything so I was aware that.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
He uh won three times.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Where Shelty Seriously.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
I had a quick sweating cold.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
What else did you learn? Do you want to share
anything else?

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah? This LPGA event cancels.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Move on from the BEGA Tour.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Okay, this is actually kind of wild. Okay, go, So
the Total Classic is usually seventy seventy two holes.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
They had really bad rain on Sunday, so that I'm
just picturing this as a player, imagine this, you and
another player are tied for the lead after three days
and on the seventh. On the fourth day, they canceled
a round because of rain obviously, like you can't control that.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
They canceled around and.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
All of a sudden, it's a one whole playoff or
is a playoff which ended up being one hole but
instead of a part five which Marina Alex when she
was in a playoff.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Last last year.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
She played that same part five. I think like six times.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
That that was the Toto event.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah. Uh is that the.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Can you get a toilet when you win? I love, Yes,
that's a great, great turn rate, great great sponsor.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
But they shortened part five to one hundred and thirty
yard Part three?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Why it was that still because of the rain?

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Because I think they're just trying to make something playable,
which again, like I completely I get it. There's nothing
you can do with you know, you know, weather and whatnot.
It's just as a player, I'm like staying there, like
I'm just imagining this, Like can you imagine.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
What were you ever in a situation where weather or like.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Or something a playoff in my career, never heard a playoff, huh.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I feel like you in a playoff would be scary.
I would be like, ah, just let her, she.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Can have it.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
I had to say I in tennis, not to bring
him back to my league recreational tennis.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I love a tiebreaker. Oh I love it, you know
I do.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
I can't understand getting angry and like getting your anger out.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
When playing a sport like this. Yeah, it's you've seen
me like that in pickleball.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
I love it. I love pickleball. Kiara might be one
of my favorite versions of pickleball.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I just get really impassionate. There's a lot on the line.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Okay, So in the end, Nasa hota Oka walks away
as the winner after one hole, and it's kind of
crazy because it's it's the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
There's a lot on the line to get a win.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
So that's uh, that's wild for a golf tournament to
come down to one little car three it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
I mean, I feel like if the tour has had
some bad weather. You know what happened in Arkansas now here,
you know it's awfully better weather for twenty twenty six.
It's one of those things you cannot control.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well, speaking of better weather for twenty twenty six, for
the LPGA. This is a great segue, Michelle. We got
a new commissioner. Yes, seems like there's these things feel
like they're on the up and up for the LPGA.
I don't know what your what your thoughts are. I agree,
and I spent a lot of time talking to Craig,
our new commissioner. You know, first off, I just really

(35:28):
appreciate how much he believes in the tour, but I
think he also knows where we're lacking and where we
can get better.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
So I think it's like the belief and optimism of
knowing how good the product is, but also knowing logically
and realistically where we're.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Lacking that what's an area where we're lacking?

Speaker 4 (35:54):
I mean, I think are I've said this in a
couple of interviews as well.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I think broadcasts needs a lot of work.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
You know, when you compare the PGA Tour broadcast to
our broadcast, it's just the production value. It's just not
even comparable. You know, just comes down to the number
of cameras on site.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, uh, you know, just the.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Production the amount of money that is put in. You know,
first off, not being on tape delay, being on uh,
you know, better windows it's tough. I mean, there's only
enough daylight. There's you know, we play on the same days.
So I think that our broadcast needs to be better.
You know, our statistics, we're still caddies are writing down

(36:45):
on scorecards. We don't have you know, uh, what's it
called shot shot link. We don't have shot link. We
don't track man data. We have none of it, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, So for those that are listening and don't know
what shot link is, the pgh OR has this massive
system and it's very expensive and requires lots of manpower
and volunteers to run it, but it essentially is the
reason why you can tell who is twenty seventh strokes
gained putting on tour, and how well they do from
ten feet, how well they do from one hundred feet,

(37:18):
and knowing all those stats helps the announcers tell a
story as you can say, wow, Michelle, you know last
season she was fiftieth, strokes gained approach, but this week
she's twentieth in the field, strokes gained approach, and she's
like changed something in her her irons, and like that

(37:39):
helps you tell a story with data, which is something
that could really be beneficial for the product, and the
fact that like caddies are still having to write it
down is like, you know, you're not really getting that
data then to the broadcast, and those announcers aren't set
up for success without having that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
So I would love to see.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I think KPMG tried to do some stats around like
they're their event, but it's not like a I would
love to see a sponsor step in and say like
we're going to be the shot Link sponsor and it's
going to be every single of it.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
It's expensive, It's crazy, really expensive.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Eighteen holes, like eighteen football fields worth data.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
I think the Yesha did a really good job this
year as well, you know, having the app, you know
what you're if you wanted to watch all of Nelly's,
Corda's shots during the round, you can just watch it
like boom boom boom boom. You know, just people have
a hard time with attention span than just watching the broadcast. Now,
I think, you know, thinking creatively, which I know Craig

(38:40):
is starting to think very creatively about that. But yeah,
I think if our broadcast is better, I think it
it opens a lot of doors. I'm really excited for
you know what, the LPGA hasn't start over twenty twenty six.
You know, I don't think broadcast is going to be
fixed overnight, probably not even one year.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
You know, these are big issues with a lot of
money needed.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
So hopefully there's a sponsor, like you said, that will
step up and be like we're gonna provide a shot
link or we're gonna to provide track man data or
any sort of data.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Would be great.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, and it's not like it's not charity like this
is no. This is a legit, amazing business and a
huge product women's sports. Are you know?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
This is money people are making for women's sports.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
It's an investment tool.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, but the better the product is, the more money
everybody's gonna make. So exactly, I just need a sponsor
to see that.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah you mentioned Nelly.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yes, you have.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Something in common with Nelly. That's your Nike life.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
And she just dropped a new pair of her very
own Nike shoes, which is pretty sick.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
I know, I'm super excited about it. I remember saying
like the first draw of it and like, I'm so
excited that I finally launched it. Looks amazing that actually,
I know shoe charms are so cute.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
And you know, obviously I think tiger, I mean a lion.
That's a very important animal for her. So seeing that
being incorporated into the shoe, it's just kind of gone
through that process myself. It's amazing what the Nike team does,
like when you're going through these brainstorming sessions, like how
deep they go into every single thing.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Okay, so like why the double slush? Why this?

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Like okay, let's go back into your life and think
of a B and C. How can we translate that
into the shoe. And it's so cool the creative process
behind it. You know, I'm very excited.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
For it that it launched.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I saw this on Instagram and screenshot at it. It's
this guy golf project.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Do you follow him on social media?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I think he's part of Scratch.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Okay, I'm sure you've seen some stuff, but this guy
shared on Instagram at Nellie Corda feels like the moment
she's got Michelle Wee West level crossover power and Nike
has the chance.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
To go all in again.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Can you imagine they look the looks they could create together,
the game, the charm, the style, just.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Do it, so.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I like how we wrote that, but mostly because we
were talking today and I was like, ah, Michelle, we
West level crossover.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Power, Like yeah, I mean, like Michelle, you're I mean
so secret.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
You're one of the few players men, men or women
that's figured out how to turn a career in golf
into a whole different stratosphere of things. And that's like,
that's the goal that you want golf to be a
mainstream and Nelly has the opportunity to be in that
mainstream world for sure.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
I think she already is mainstream.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
I think I saw a list of I forgot to
feel this Forbes or something, except the top influential athletes,
and Nelly's on that list. And it's always so amazing
to see a woman golfer on that list. So, you know,
very proud of her. I've you know, known her since
you know she had braces on. Yeah, and obviously very
close with their sister. So yeah, I'm super excited for

(42:23):
her shoe. It looks amazing and yeah, I mean just
the kind of it made me reminisce and of the
old conversations that I have with Nike. It's always really
fun making a shoe. How many shoes did you make
with them? I so.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I never was really in the prop in the room
when they created the shoe.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
But if you don't remember, I came out with the
I wore the high top blazer that was like a
big the US shoe the wave. Yeah, so they actually
surprised me with that because so they after I won
the US Open, I infamously wore a lot of KT
tape and it was hot pink and camo, and they

(43:07):
came out with the high top blazer that was hot
pink and had camo on it, and then the tongue
of the shoe had my score. So I didn't really
do much designing on that one. I would say the
shoe that I did the most designing with was my
US Open shoe at Pebble.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, oh that's the way. That's the way when I
was thinking of my.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Top Jeordian ones, and that was so much fun.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
I actually was on design team for the Master's shoe
for twenty twenty four, so that was really awesome to
be a part.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Of that process.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
So yeah, I mean, hopefully I think I'll be on
some projects in the future as well. But it's so
much fun Nike. They are doing some really cool things
for twenty twenty six. I think they're completely rebranding Nike
Golf and coming out.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Some cool shoes. So yeah, I'm excited for the world
to see it.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
You were very nice and got me a pair of
your US.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Open shoes, and I wore them once and posted about them,
and I got so many DMS people offering to buy
them from me. Was like, hands off my shoes, and
so so I wore them that one time and I
kind of regret it because the value is now down
and it's like a collector's item.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Who knew.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I didn't realize that all these people in my DMS
would want my shoes.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
And actually it's wild to me. I mean I think
I think shoe collectors anytimes is a limited edition.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Jordan shoe, they go crazy over it.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
So it's not it's not just me. It's it's the
fact that it's a limited edition Jordan shoe. But I
was looking on the resale sites like on go and whatnot,
and they're like twenty five hundred two thousand.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
People are spending thousands of dollars, which is wild. It's crazy.
Maybe I should sell it. Yeah, hey, buy yourself a
nice handbag. I would not be mad.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
You know, I'm not above buying myself a nice.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Can we tell everyone about our fund trip to friend,
trip to door, Sure, go for it.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
So we got done with their round and we have
thirty minutes to spare. Well, we were playing to eight A.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I'm in Las Vegas, it's invitation.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
And we had thirty minutes to spare and what.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Do we do?

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Go straight to deor.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
It wasn't our fault the way that they scheduled. It
was that there was this time in between and what
are we supposed to do?

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
And the win, the win. In Las Vegas, there's a
door store, and.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
We both believe that Kien needed a.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Congratulatory gift, a present to herself after the mez work
that she did at the Masters.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yes, thank you, Michelle.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
And so we walk in and we're just walking around
oohing and awing, and there's this bag. It's a I
don't even like a small bag that's that was light blue,
which is like my favorite color, and it was floral.
It was very Master's umbrellas coated and it was one
of those like you know what, screw it.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
So then we walked back to the to the shootout
to the nine people with the door and you know,
like even though when you buy a small bag, they
gave you the biggest bag.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
And Travis Kelsey was like, oh, what did you guys do?
Oh but you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I would normally never ever, ever do something like that,
and it just was it felt right.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
It was a moment. And now we're now we're all
about vintage shopping.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
That's our thing.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, March Tokyo next year.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
We have big plans for Tokyo.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Oh, I didn't text you back about your flight information.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Just really sorry, Sorry, rude, I'm completely forgoten about it
till now. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
We speaking of going to Asia, I want to talk
about Charlie Hall and then yes, and then I'll let
you go. But so so Michell and I have gone
to Korea a couple of times with our friend g
Hey and some other girlfriends, and Kay Beauty is like,
you know, obviously Michell knows all about it. I'm obsessed
with it. It's a big part of our personalities. It's

(47:36):
what we texted of the time. So apparently Charlie Hall
is into k beauty and Beth and Nichols followed her
around South Korea. When they were there for an LPGA event,
they went to an Olive Young and Charlie gave all
of her uh like skincare recommendations.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Did you read did you read that article?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
I did?

Speaker 2 (47:58):
What did you think of? What of what Charlie? He
was saying.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
So, actually some of that stuff that Charlie was commenting
on was retinal no drinking, no tanning, beds, SAM and sperm,
BBL broadband light not the other BBL, boost college and boosts, chogging, water,
red light therapy, not against the other BBL against it.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I'm just saying that's not the one she was referencing
in this article.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
We're not here to start rumors.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Breaking news, so works as close to Charlie. No, that
thing is all natural. That girl is in the gym.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
I know.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
In the middle of the season. This girl competed in
a high rocks and want it.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, but she also has like a straightened race the
half marathon.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
But I want to talking about the half marathon.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
If you're gonna go ahead and do other activities as
a confederitor, you.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Gotta do the Charlie whole route. You gotta go and
win the High Rock. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
That's why I felt like when I ran my eleven
minute PR mile, it was like.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
I couldn't I couldn't get myself to pat myself on
the back.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Well, you know what, You'll never have to find out
if you would have done it an eleven minute PR
mile when you were actually playing professional golf, because that's
that's the way.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, I know that too.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Yeah. I mean, Charlie Hall's a beast. I mean, that's
just just be real.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
She I don't know if she would have fallen in
the pothole Michelle.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Yeah, that's a me issue. Baby, baby giraffe, Michelle.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Baby giraffe energy. But we love you.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
But anyway, what did you think of Charlie's skincare journey?

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Yeah, you know, I thought she made some really good
points in an article. It's not about what It's not
always about what you put on top, it's what you
put inside your body. And I have recently gone on
that journey as well, you know, drinking, eating the right foods,
taking the right supplements. I think it really makes a difference.

(50:08):
But I'm all about the redern I'm all about you know,
the skin boosters and all that, and yeah, I think
I think it really works. It was really fun.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
I think we wanted we go now two years ago. Now, yeah,
two years ago.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
And I feel like K Booty was a craze two
years ago too, But I feel like now it's like
truly solidif there, K beauty is solidified as the thing place.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yes, it's no longer this novelty or something that's like, oh,
K Beauty, it's like, oh yeah, like everybody has salmon
sperm in there.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
My salmon sperm lip bomb.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Shut up. That's so good.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
I love it, you know. But what I also really
appreciate about KAY Beauty none of it's expensive. Yeah, it
is super affordable, And I think we should go back
to Korea because it's time.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I think that's the one thing that I worry about
with K Beauty in America is it's not the same
because we have different like things that they can put
in or not put in, or like shelf stabilizing ingredients
and things like that. So I feel like the K
beauty products that you can buy in Korea are different
than the ones that you can get here.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Yeah, and I think the hack now is to not
as not to get stuff at all of Young, and
which is all of Young is like Korea's version of
Sephora and Alta, and you go straight to the pharmacy.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
The pharmacy.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Yeah, I spend one thousand dollars at a pharmacy buying skincare.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
And again the skincare is not expensive, Nash, just how
much I bought. Oh, speaking of I was supposed to
get some from you. Oh yeah, I forgot to give
it to you.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
I'll see you soon enough.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
I'm sure I'll you when you respond back to my
text message, that's when I will.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I'll respond. But I'm going to see you for a
formula one soon.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Oh yeah, see next week.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I forget my favorite line from Charlie's article because I
can just it's written in her voice, like as if
she's speaking to a.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
In a voice recorder. So this I'm just imagining her accent.
Obviously Mel. If Mel was here, she could do this amazingly.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
But she was like, I used to smash sun beds
when I was younger, so I never got tan lines.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
But that's bad for your skin, Thank you, Charlie.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I am like picturing Beth then trying to write this article.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Charlie's voice makes me so happy and even imagining that.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
It's just it's like one day, if I fancy a
burger and chips, I'll have that, but I'll eat clean
rest of the day.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
There's so many one liners in this article. It's on
Golf Week by.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Okay we when Mel comes back, can we go?

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I need Mel to read this article.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Justice Well, I'm just like I can't do it. She
will have a dramatic reading of mel.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Can I as a co host to a quick complete
off topic because your crown is in the background. What
are your thoughts about the lady that's won the pageant?
Was a Miss Universe or a Miss World that did
death Metal?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Miss a girl at Miss World.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
You sent me that, Yes, she want it, she want
the pageant?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
She want yes, Oh my god, Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I'm all about a unique talent because I did a
unique talent in Mssmerica. So you want if you want
to be different, you want to stand out, and you
want to be singing Phantom of the Opera like everybody else,
do something cool.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I thought, like, I love it. Good for her.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
I would love to see you.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Metal okay, but I don't have a death metal that energy.
I don't know if you know this about maybe mel
could do that.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
I don't have. I'm more Bruno Mars.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Anyways, it was I had to talk about it. I
had to get your thoughts on it.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
You know, did you see the Miss Universe drama?

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Though? No, I love rama.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Oh my god. Okay, so there there's all this crazy
backstory to it. But essentially, the guy that runs Miss
Universe Thailand also somehow became the executive director of Miss
Universe this year.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
But he doesn't own the pageant.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
It's owned by some other lady and a Mexican group,
business group of some sorts.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Okay, okay, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
But this guy, I think his name is Nowat, he
was having a meat with all of the contestants and
in that meeting, he was explaining some sort of event
that they all had to go to, and Miss Mexico
spoke up and was like, you know, that doesn't make
sense or some you know, she disagreed with him, and

(55:14):
in front of the whole room, he called her dumb
and told her to sit down and shut up. And
this was the this event wherever they were was being
broadcast live on Facebook, and so the clip of him
doing that went totally viral.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
It was like international news.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I was getting Google news notifications from like People, magazines, CNN.
Miss Universe director calls Miss Mexico dumb and all. When
he did that, all these girls stand up and they're
like trying to leave in protest.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
It was so dramatic, So good for them.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
The reigning Miss Universe like gave a statement about how
inappropriate that is.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
He was forced to step down.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Wow, we were still a.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Force to step down statement. So yeah, things are popping
off in the pageant world.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
I love it. Hey, some spice, spice, I you know,
I love how delusional he was to think that he
can call someone a woman dumb and a room full
of women.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Well, also, this is supposed to be about women's empowerment
and scholarship.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
I have, but like, imagine being in that scenario, right,
Like you're just a singular man and a roomful of
women and you're telling a woman that they're dumb like that, buddy,
that's not ever going.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
To work out well for you. No, Like, yeah, you're dumb, sir,
but you're dumb sir, like truly.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Well, also, it's being broadcast like and you know that
because you set the thing up.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
So yeah, what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Oh man?

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Okay, before I let you go, what is your shush
of the week, Michelle, You know not to bring.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
It back to my recreational league, dentist.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
It's always it all goes back to erect all.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Rose laid back to late tennis. I truly do not
understand cheating in recreational sports.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
I remember when we played pickle at Summit and there
is that lady next to us that was like freaking
out about every single point.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yes, that sort of energy is so interesting to me.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
It's like and I see it in golf all the
time too, Like I don't understand when people get so
angry on a golf.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Course to the point where they would cheat ye in
a game that doesn't matter, matters, no offense about your
wreck tennis league, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
It's like for fun and exercise in community exactly.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Like I mean, I played against this one lady that
was calling everything out, I mean blatantly, like it was
six inches in and she'd be like.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Like a foot in, She'd be like out, And then
what do you do can you can You can't do
anything about it.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Because there's no refs. It's a recreational league.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
There's no one else where the instant refle there's no
instant replay, there's no AI.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
It's just us, I mean or what. Yeah, We're like
it was in but she's like, it's our call, and
then they're like.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
The thing that really made us angry was, you know,
her partners at the net and she touched the ball,
I mean it deflected on her racket, and we both
were like, you touched the ball, you know? And then
I guess I guess in recreational league tennis that there
they have to call it on themselves, like we can't
call the fact that the other.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Person touched the ball.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
And we were forty thirty and they decided to take
the point because she immediately was like, you guys can't
call that. We have to call that, and we're like,
it's so obvious the ball touched her racket and like
deflected off.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
So she's trying to say that she did it didn't
touch her racket.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Yeah, So then her partner was like, oh, it's it's
our call, and then she looked over to her partners
and then her partner was like, I didn't touch it,
and I was like, are you kidding me? So then
we're forty thirty because we would have, you know, won
the game. She then took us seduce rude, so then
I called her last shot out to win.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
But it was I was like, oh, ball, don't lie,
Ball don't lie. But also I would much rather lose
any day than to win like that. I just don't
understand it.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Yeah, I don't understand that either, especially when it's like
this isn't the US Open, or not that you should
be cheating at the US Open either, but but like
in terms of caring.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Yeah, I'd rather like lose because I had a bad
shot or you know, they had they had a really
good shot. It's even like in golf too, right, like
when you're playing these member guests, member members things. Making
someone put like a six inch putt in these tournaments
is just wild.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
What are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (59:54):
What A like?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
I don't, I mean, it's it's it's just for fun.
It's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I've seen I won't say the golf course, but I
was just warming up on the range and they were
having the Men's Club championship. But they don't have it
all in one day. It's like you have to get
through a certain amount of stages before you can get
to like the final match. And this man, I guess,
had lost his match to potentially get into the final stage,

(01:00:22):
and he walked up to the range area and started
slamming his golf club, screaming at the staff, throwing water
bottles everywhere, like yelling obscenities. There's like kids on the
range and an old guy, and like just the fact
that people blow up like that over sports, rec league sports.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Is like what are we doing? Yeah, there's got to
be something else going on your life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
What I don't understand is that, like this is your outlet, right,
Like golf is usually your outlet.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Tennis is my outlet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Like if we're not having fun, why are we even
putting ourselves in the situation like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Go home, go home, Like stop it quit stop Anyways,
that's my grievance. That's your shush. That's my shush. Yeah,
enjoy the sport that you're playing. Stop cheating, don't cheat.
It's very simple.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Okay, do you want to hear my shush?

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
What's your shush? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
So last week in Mexico, I was walking past like
a fan area where there's drinks, and this guy comes
up to me, Oh, your cake, Can we take a
picture together?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
And I was like sure, you know, why not? And
he goes, I think you're great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I think you're so much better than blah blah blah
other female reportering golf, Like why why why would you
say that? Like that's such a weird thing to say
to somebody. And also like stop like pitting women against
each other and exactly, and I said, I so my
So Luke Donald happened to be walking right by right

(01:02:02):
when that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
It was so awkward.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Made eye contact with Luke and I thought maybe he
would stop and tried to save.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Me, and he just kept walking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
He like, no, I'm out, I'm out of this. So
I said to the guy like, actually, I love her,
So that's weird. That's a weird thing to say. And
he was clearly drinking, and he was like ha ha ha,
you know, I just I just think that, you know,
your stuff is just better.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
And I was like, you know, I just think that
we should not compare women to each other like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
That's just weird and that's also a weird thing to say,
and he just kind of stared at me and I
was like, all right, well should we smile or do
you want to take the picture? But the things that
people come up to you and say are pretty wild.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Yeah, for me, I think it's like that I get
the height comment a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Oh that you're so tall.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Yeah, wow you're so tall.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Oh wow, taller than you look on TV. Oh wow,
like wow, you're so tall, Like many variations of that.
Like I'm just wondering what what is it about height
or tall height that makes it like that makes people
think that it's okay to comment on Like you never
would say, oh my god, you're so fat, Oh my god,

(01:03:20):
you're so short, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
You know, I get a lot of you are so
much prettier in person. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I think what it is is people see somebody that
they're excited to meet, and they get diarrhea of the mouth,
and they think that they're paying a compliment and they
just kind of like your brain detaches from totally from
everything else, and they like, they want to be cool.
They want you to like them in that moment, which
is understandable, but just like, just just chill.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
We're good here. I know that's said that one time
I cried when I saw Lance Bass. I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Well that's differ, that's a completely different situation. What else
were you expected to do.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
So hero?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
So anyway, that's my shush. Let's just not compare women
to each other.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
And I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Just don't be a weirdo and don't cheat.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah. Yeah, so I'm going to see you soon, Yes,
next week.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I'm excited Formula one. I've never been a Formula one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Yeah, it's fun. I mean, all you see is zing
zing zing, but you know it's it's a lot of fun.
It's really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I'm excited for some zing zing zing. Yeah. Okay, Michelle, Well,
thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
I feel like I could talk to you for five
thousand hours about all the things on three hour podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Yeah, I'm sure that people would love that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
But I know, Michelle, I know Mel really appreciates you
taking the time and filling in for her, and I
certainly do as well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Anytime, this is a great excuse to catch up with
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
This is great. Hey, thank you, Thanks Michelle. Bye, nice Nye.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
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