Ep 8: Full Swing fame, post-loss Taco Bell, and Geno signing autographs with Joel Dahmen

On this episode of Quiet Please, Mel and Kira are joined by Joel Dahmen to discuss his time on Full Swing, caddy relationships, and his workout routine now that the world has seen him shirtless. Also, swimming in the ocean with a Navy Seal, penguins at daycare, Mel, unfortunately, gets a shipment of mulch, and Joel exclusively reveals he does know what open-toed shoes are.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quiet Please with Mel Reed and Kira Dixon is an
iheartwomen's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.
You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to Quiet Please,

(00:24):
Kira here alongside Mel.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's been a bit of a crazy week.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Mel and I'm excited to chat and we've got a
guest on today, which would be really fun.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
We do We will get into that a bit, but
he's well, I'm quite confident in saying that he's one
of our favorite golfers or people. Actually the guest this week.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
He's the first man we've ever asked to be on
the show. So I think that tells you everything you
need to know about Joel, Damon.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Winner, All the PGA Tour, Damon Netflix Star.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
He's gonna be joining us. We had a really nice
chat with him a couple of weeks ago, so this
will be a fun one for everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, he's awesome. I think everybody that watched Full Swing
just fell in love with Joel, even more so when
he took his top off. So we do talk about
that in the pod. But big fan of Joel. People big,
big fan of Joel. Yeah, we bonded over a couple
of beers once in Vegas, which I'm sure everyone finds
hard to believe, but he's been one of my favorites since,
so I knew I would love him, and everyone loves

(01:23):
Joel and hopefully everyone will enjoyed the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
But yeah, yeah, what are you up to? Before we
jumped on, you said you were waiting for some mulch. Yes,
I love that for.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
You, thank you. I'm in my gardening era, which I
absolutely hate.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Hate No, I hate it, I hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Sorry, I hate stop. You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
This is maybe one of those things where you throw
money at the problem, hire somebody, I know, but.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I've done that before and I got ripped off. So
I'm one of them people that I try. I really
do try to do it myself and it's awful. But anyway,
it's the difference just every time I go past. I've
tried really hard. It definitely looks better at my front lawn,
but I just I just it'sress as Mero just does.
But anyway, I'm getting some mulch delivered today.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, so I'm very excited about that. So that's what
I'll be doing this evening. But yeah, other than that,
we had Mother's Day. We me and Kylie celebrate Mother's
Day different because we have a British Mother's Day and
a US Mother's Day's.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
So you get, you get to split it up.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah, so I did. Yeah it was cool. Actually
so so mim Is yesterday and Kai got me some
wine and cheese.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Which Kai, he's very advanced for that. Kai one year
old and he's already got it.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
He's already he's already got it down. So yeah, we
had a lovely day yesterday. Yeah, so it was just
really nice. Went to the pub for a couple of
beers and I made a steak and nail pie which
was delicious.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Thank you great. Well, Happy Mother's Day, Yeah, thank you.
I excuse to celebrate you.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I mean pretty much.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Every day is d.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
But yeah, it was nice that Kay got me some gifts,
So thank you, Kai Slash. I'm pretty sure Kyli had
something to do with that. So how was your weekends
in Texas?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
It was good.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, I was in Texas at the Houston Open where
min Wuli won the golf tournament and it was all
super exciting. It was one of those you know, Scottie
shooting a million under on the back to almost win
the golf tournament. But you know, he's, uh, he's a
flashy guy, and he was very flashy about his win.

(03:38):
And it was fun to be there to do the interview,
and you know, he kind of pretended to do aim
point over an eighties.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
At the end.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I mean his showman, isn't he.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, So he gave the people what he what they wanted.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
But I had a couple of funny things happened to
me over the weekend. So we generally don't do Shush
of the week when we have a guest, but I
have a couple of shushes to share with me from
some weird things that people came up to me and said.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
One of them was this guy.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I'm sitting there like clearly in the I'm like taking
frantic notes. I'm about to go and interview somebody earlier
in the in the week, not not on the final day,
but on like the Wednesday or something like that, when
we're doing a bunch of our pre show stuff and
this man comes up to me and interrupts me, which
is fine, and you know he says hello, like hi,
you know, yeah, so nice to be too, thank you

(04:31):
so much, you know whatever, like, you know, trying to
get back to my work.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
And he goes, so, what's your last name? I said
Dixon and he goes, oh, which one is Dixon? And
I was like, excuse me, what, well, which one is yours?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
And I was like, wait, what what?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Who are you married to that you're here?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Oh? Did he think you were a whag?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's like, sir, do you think that the the only
way I can be here is because I've married somebody?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Oh? Wait? Did anythink that you were a player? Is? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Like yeah, like I'm not. I'm clearly like work.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I mean, you know that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
But it just was like, you know, the wires are
walking around and stuff, but the idea of just going
up to somebody and assuming that the only way you
could be.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
There did the ear piece and the in the.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Golf and you know, I'm a big hack girl.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
These days, Yeah I know, I like it.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, So so it just was so weird.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
You know, I think that people just want to say hi,
which is fine, but then they.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Get vomited the mouth and just they just do you
know what, kurra, I get it you have that you know,
you have that kind of are around you. I'm sure
people get, especially man, get very nervous around you, such
a such an energy around you.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Such nour But then I had another person come up
to me later in the week and say.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Hey, that's that Scottie Shuffler.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Did you know he's the world number one?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I don't write.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, So I made a reel about this, like you know,
people come up to me and say weird shit like
they just do. And this guy commented and I didn't
comment back because I didn't want to give him the
satisfaction of it on the internet, but I'll say it
on the podcast and I blocked him, so hopefully he
never comes back to haunt me.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
If he does, sir, I see you.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
But this guy commented on my reel and he said,
anyone with a mid face and a microphone can interview someone.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That doesn't mean you know golf.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
And I went and looked in his profile and the
first thing it says is girl dad.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Oh that's annoying.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Isn't this that amazing?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah? Okay, so this is what annoys me when people
comment and I think we've spoke about this before when
people comment on other people's social media. You don't have
to go on my social media. And do you know
what I mean? Like I think Ricky Jabase did this
thing where he's like, just because it says free guitar
lessons doesn't mean you have to walk in and go.
I didn't want fucking free guitar lessons. You know what
I'm saying. You don't have to comment on my ship.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
You don't have to.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I know that we put ourselves out there like we
are public facing, but it's.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Such an effort to make a comment like that.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, Like it was just so like, you know, you know,
you're never going to offend me with any comments about
my appearance.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Look whatever, but the fact that.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
You have girl dad living my best life and like
a family photo in your in your profile future is
so just like.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
What did he call you? Mid mid face?

Speaker 2 (07:44):
He said that I had a mid face.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
That means I like, I'm a meth looking human, which
is fine, happy human.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
No, you're absolutely on a bad day, You're not a
meth looking here.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Thanks, thanks well anyway, I just I don't know what
it was like.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Mercury is in retrograde for some of these people this week.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
But I thought you would forget it's some entertainment out
of that.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I mean, it's just I don't even I can't even
comment on it because it's just it is infuriating to me.
I just I can't deal with it, Kira.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
But other than that, it was a great week.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I bought Welli's at Target because it was disgusting and
reigning out And now I have moved locations to Augusta, Georgia.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Baby, so you're doing and with this week?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, well, I think that by the time this episode
comes out, this will be public, so I'm allowed to
say it. So I'm hosting a show for Augusta called
Under the Umbrellas, which is kind of a new fan initiative,
more lifestyle based digital show, and it'll be on all

(08:56):
of Augusta Nationals and the Maasters dot Com digital channels,
which would be really fun. So I'm doing stuff with
Annwa around that, and then I'm also doing Drive, Chip
and Putt, and I'm doing some stuff some Master's reporting
for US for Golf Channel over the weekend during the
Master's tournament. But for the next two weeks, my main
thing really will be this show.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
So amazing that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, it's going to be really fun. But I just
arrived today.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Not bad for a face.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Look at me, Look at me, girl.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Sir, Oh dear me?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Classic, but yeah good.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I did like you Wellies by the way, big Welly
girl me. Yeah, I love a bit. I've got about
three pairs back in England.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
You know It's funny. Every British caddy came up to
me and said, oh, look at the Wellies.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, Wellies, we love a Wellie. My mulch has literally
just arrived. Okay, great, My Carly's obviously not paying any
attention to the guy that's going to bring cameras six times.
So yeah, I gotta go get my melt, gotta go
get my molts.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, we got to get out of here. You got
to get your malt.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
And I hope you guys enjoy this conversation with Jordy. Okay,
we're so excited to welcome PGA Tour winner, star of
Netflix's Full Swing, husband, Dad and Joel. I think that
you'll appreciate this. You are the first man that we
have asked to be on this show. I think that
says a lot about who you are. Thank you for joining.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yeah, I've listened a few of your previous episodes. I
was honored to be one of the early guests on this,
so this is this is great, big fan of both
of you guys as well.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Oh I'm a big fun of you, Joel.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
You know that night, oh Mal, I just missed our
our late nights running around and some sponsor outings.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Enjoy enjoy those evenings.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
I know, putting us two together in a sponsor's outing
event is probably not the best the best two combined double.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
No, that seems like a double whammy, like guaranteed good time.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean the group Stephanie had a good time, and
we have a very good time after the groups of
going correct.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
So we just wanted to.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Bumb didn't we. I mean we knew that. I knew
that was going to get on with you anyway, Joel.
After watch you know, Full Swing, and a lot of
my good friends know you, Cassette and Amanda and here
and everyone, so they were just very hardly speaking of you,
and so I was desperate to meet you. And you
did not disappoint me, I must say, you were. I
was just trying to keep up with you, legendary.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
I was just trying to keep up with you.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
When when was this? What did you guys do?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
It was an AWS golf day in Vegas? What's two
years again? Kai was only about k I had been
born for like two weeks, so it was my first yeah, obviously, Yeah.
And I ran into Joel, Max Homer and Harry Higgs
by the bar as they dragged me and I was
supposed to get a good night sleeep. It was like
the one time I was going to get a good
night sleeep and it was just not so. But it

(11:37):
was worth it, worth every h every bit of it.
Joel was fun.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Absolutely, speaking of a lot of fun. How's the year
been so far? Can you put it into words? What
twenty twenty five is? I know you kind of had
like a funky star the Miss three or fourcast, So
you've had them great finishes. Players went really well in
terms of making a statement, making the But where are
you at right now?

Speaker 5 (12:03):
I would say it's off to a pretty solid start.
Two top tens earlier in the year is always nice. You
can always play better, but I think for me to
carry some momentum my head from the fall of twenty
four into twenty five has been nice. I'm seeing a
lot of I've been played really consistently, I would say
the last four or five weeks, and that's something that
I've wanted to do more of after last year and

(12:24):
just kind of been more patient. I'm having more fun
this year. I feel like it's kind of got a
second go at this whole thing maybe, you know, kind
of feels like a second act maybe to my career.
And I'm kind of enjoying the golf aspect much more
than I did last year.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
How many years you've been on to it now?

Speaker 5 (12:41):
This is my ninth year on the PJA Tour in
my fourteen years of professional.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Jeez, you catched up to me, Joe, I am, I
am catching up. I'm done that night.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Sorry, Yeah, seventeen years.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Yeah, that's incredible, Thanks Joe. I know I don't look it,
but I feel like, yeah, I definitely don't.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
You should invite me back to the Grand Thornton and
just have player one one and done. Uh, it won't
be Golf is entertainment and you could just ride off
in the sunset once every year.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I know that would be Well, I'm not an ambassad
anymore to kick me off.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
So yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
No, I still have a great relationship with him. But yeah,
probably because I'm not playing. It's probably not great to
have an LPJ bassat that doesn't play golf anymore so.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
But you can just be the ambassador for golf.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
I thank you, Kira, I could actually do you know what.
I'll still ask for an invite for his Joel. You know,
I you know, I really want to play with you
in the mixed event. I think we do. I think
it'd be.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Would we certainly have the most fun? I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, but well, for some reason, I thought that you
guys had played together into Grant Thornton, because that seems
like a no brainer pairing.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
I requested him, so either he rejected me.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
I did not.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
I was fortunate enough to play in one of them.
But at the time I did it, the number one
player in the world on my team.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, fair enough, fair enough.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
We had a fun time too. She's she's great. I
was very impressed with her.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, she's great.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
She's probably goes to bed a little bit earlier than
you do, but she's still a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Kettle Black hang got a minute put kettle black. But yeah,
she's certainly does, which is probably why she's will number one,
and I never got close to that.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
So there we go.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Good time, I've got some good stories. I had a
good time out there, mate.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
It was fun. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
So I've got to ask about the full swing. Obviously,
you've been on two our nine years on the PJ Tour.
Is that like the most defining year of your life
being on full swing? I feel like you just went
into like the most popular player ever on the PJ Tour.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, I guess I never thought it would be this
popular from a TV show. I certainly thought it would
be for them, hopefully winning golf tournaments, but that wasn't
quite the case. We didn't know what we were really
signing up for. But a camera and a microphone were
presented to Geno myself and off we ran with it
and it was a little bit different than everyone else

(15:13):
and they seem to like that, so off we ran
and it was great for us for the most part,
great opportunities. Obviously, popularity has really risen the last few years,
and with that comes many great things. But you know,
time management is not one of my strong foots, so
I had to figure that part out, and I had
my kid three weeks before Full Swing came out, so

(15:37):
it's like trying to adjusted dad life to then becoming
one of the more popular players on tour and maybe
not having the golf game quite matchup at the same time.
It was kind of a wild two years and I
feel like everything's finally settling down a little bit and
that aspect.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
But in this past season in Full Swing, you weren't
as involved as you have been in past seasons, right.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Correct, Yeah, it was very I just did kind of
avoid it as much as we could, just did once
sit down kind of thing and talked about the overview
of golf.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I would say, okay, so in the I think it
was the previous season, I remember talking to you at
some point because they went really deep down on your
personal storyline with a lot of stuff that you were
dealing with, and by the time the show came out,
you had already I mean it was like six months later,
and you're like, I've moved on from so much of this,
and you know, life has changed so much since we filmed.

(16:29):
It's like kind of reliving that era again. But I've
already processed so much from any of those challenges, Like,
can you for those that don't understand the timing of
how this works, like what was it like filming and
living all that stuff in the moment, but then also
having it be the reality of a show that people
think is happening like at the same time.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yeah, I think that's a great point you made. It's
interesting because they film let's say a lot of spring
and summer and then so that would have been the
spring and summer of twenty three, and then the show
comes out in the spring of twenty four, so it's
you know, nine to twelve months removed from what you're
seeing on TV. What you're seeing on Netflix is just

(17:10):
so like, like I said, I had I felt like
a you know, grown up and moved on and had
faced a lot of these challenges head on, from being
a grumpy golfer and having a rough go to you know,
hiring a sports performance coach, to my kids another year older.
A lot of these challenges have came upon are like
so far behind me, and then this comes out and

(17:32):
you get rehash it all and like you get sick
and tired of like fighting for yourself of like, hey,
this was so last year, like, I'm over these things.
This is what I've moved on to. This is what
it is. But I guess that's just kind of part
of being on the show is that you're going to
rehash some of that stuff. But at some point it
gets a little bit tired of the social media or

(17:53):
just some of the questions of Oh, you gotta do this,
you gotta do that, and I'm like, I have been
doing all of this stuff, so that part gets tiring.
But at the same time, I think people can see now,
hopefully just through some results obviously, but also just me
being a happier golfer I would.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Say, and enjoying day to day life more in the
process of it all.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
More that they can see that I did make some
adjustments in my life and I did listen to some
of those people in my life. So it's and it's
it's been great. It's been a fun ride.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Would you say that you've, like I are using the
word reddicated for some reason, but you think that you've
definitely made that shift since the first series of Full Swing.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yeah, I think I'm just I'm better with my time.
I would stay on the golf course. I'm more prepared
when I t off on Thursdays now, and I have
a better process and a better thought of what I'm
doing week to week, and I think just a lot
of things are like I've better prepared to travel with
my family now having done this for a couple couple

(18:51):
of years, and as hard as a Terrible twos art,
it's still sometimes it's a lot easier than it is,
you know, when they're really young.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
So yeah, I would. I don't know if re dedicate,
but I don't.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
I guess I don't know the exactly word for it,
but I'm kind of enjoying this maybe second act out
of here on the PGA tour and kind of a
being an older veteran, it's kind of a weird things
you definitely, Yeah, I am, I'm old, I got gray hairs,
I'm a dad, So yeah, that's all just kind of
like I'm just enjoying everything a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
And you are just into your new life now, like
you said, being a dad's you know, having rigs and
all that stuff. It's it's a hard adjustment, especially when
you're trying to be a top professional athlete at the
same time.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yes, yeah, you're exactly right, and I'm not the first
one to go through this. I mean there's I think
some people figure it out quicker than others. Some people
never figured out. But I've figured it out on my
own timeline, I guess. And I think it's just really
fun to have a kid out here now, Like yesterday
you got to go to the aquarium all day and
he's telling me about how he got a you know, pedaturtle,
and you know you've fed a baby alligator. And today

(19:55):
you gets to go see the penguins at the at digcare.
Like all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
We don't care they do.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
It's very very nice. It's one of the great TJ
Turk here. Remember, it's very it's very very cheap. Yeah,
correct word.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
I don't. I don't know any daycare that brings a
slough in a hark to know.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
We get we get crayons on a piece of paper
at the LPGA budget.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Hey, that'll keep your kid. He loved daycare. Yeah, yeah,
he used to. He used to love it.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
He used to love the women on the LPJ takecare
was c Actually they're they're complete angels, I will say,
saved us a lot, they are.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
I mean, it's like it's still life on the road.
They travel every week with us, which helps out of time,
so your kid gets to know him and.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
The sim reality as well.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Isn't it like they they know the women or the
guys or whoever are looking after them. It's the same
every week, and so that's I don't know, I just
it's just a lot of a lot of LPJ pack
can speak obviously for the women, but a lot of
them are just so grateful for the daycare that we get.
It's like one of the best things on the LPJ
is the daycare and the daycare women that are just amazing.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Right, Yeah, you feel like you're they're safe when you
drop them off. They understand your kid's routine, they understand
some of the things they like they don't like, and
like for sure, I mean, I can't imagine being I
could imagine my wife Lana being an LPJA golfer and
trying to do what he does with a kid. Like
it's just they're just things that moms can't do that
dads can't, and there's it's just I can't imagine being
on that side of it. So women are special and

(21:25):
they are by far the superior tender.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Something we already know it thanks to reminder.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, who is more famous from Full Swing?

Speaker 2 (21:46):
You or Gino?

Speaker 5 (21:50):
I mean if you took like the percentage of the
popularity from me going up to June going up, I
mean for sure Gino. I mean he signs more autographs
than half the tour guys.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Do I think it's trillion?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Isn't it? It is actually amazing birthday today, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
You posted some really flattering photos of gorgeous I don't
think I need this on my feed.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Yeah, you do much. That was the look it up.
I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I saw He's just he's hot, his naked pretty much
a Northern pot from one.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Well, that's what you get when you're with Gino. He's
actually about twelve feet away on the couch out there
right now. He's he got kicked out of his AIRM
B and B like this typical Geno style. He didn't
have one place for the whole week, so he's on
my couch tonight, which is great, perfect, pretty standard.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
How do you been with Gino your whole career? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:45):
So when I got on the Corner Ferry tour in
twenty fifteen, it's when he came out and we've been
together for since, so we're ten years and I guess
eleven years golf, it is ten years total. But we've
known each other twenty five years now and a lot
of Yeah, we've been pretty close for twenty five years.
He's four years older than me, so we kind of
missed each other in high school days, but we grew

(23:06):
up in the same town and always kept in touch.
And even when I went to school in Seattle, our
passcrossed over there, and when I moved back home, he
was back home by that time. We just kept in touch,
and the older we got, the closer we got, which
has just been a fun It's really special to have
my best friend on the bag, and he's really a
part of our family, and his family's really awesome too,

(23:26):
So it's just really nice to have someone along for
the ride that you trust and you know that cares
about you. And like today he asked if he'd come
hang out with Rigs, Like, you just want to hang
out with my little guy, Like, that's just a really
cool thing that we have that not many other player
caddies out.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
I definitely feel like you guys have a different relationship.
I think that I kind of wanted to get into
play a caddy relationship because well, some players, I should say,
kind of like it a little bit more business. Ye,
And then you've got other players that literally are with
their best mate. I've always kind of liked a little
bit of the middle ground. My last caddie actually was
probably one of my best ones. Greg shouts Greg. It
was like a very like he was probably like one

(24:03):
of the most like loyal, like I definitely knew we
had my back and trustworthy guy and was just I
don't know, like it was very We were really good friends,
but we never kind of crossed that line of like
having to go to dinner and stuff every single night.
That's just the way I liked it as I just
liked a little bit of separation. But you guys seem
to literally just be best mates and not get sick
of each other, and that must just work for you guys.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Yeah, there's it does. There's times where we will you know,
there's times I won't see him out off the golf course,
like he obviously he's developed a lot of great friends
out here as well, and if he's you know, if
I have my family's out here. But a lot of
times are past just across off the golf course, but
also like there's times where I fur to stay with
him if my family's not out. I think it's great

(24:44):
for us to stay together. It keeps us out of trouble,
and like we can just stay on like the same
path and like uh so, like we have no issues
of seeing each other twenty four to seven for a
full week, but then it's nice to kind of have
your break as well, especially sometimes really difficult if you
have a bad day on the golf course or you

(25:05):
you know, have disagreements out there, and then all of
a sudden you're sitting in the same car going back
to the same house, and it's like I want to
get away from you, but I can't. But we fight
like brothers, so it's over pretty quickly. And very lucky that,
like you said, he can pop in and out, and
much prefer to have a best friend out there than
more a business transact, which some guys work.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Better that way if they just want to show up
and they'll kick him down the road and they'll see
him later.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
But I don't know, there's something you and I will
always be best buddies, whether he's working for me or not.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Gino.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I also joined you for the navy seal thing that
you did over the winter.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Did Yeah, not many caddies would be doing that either.
That just shows how much he cares and wants me
to you know, wants us to do well and keep
getting better and progressing in this And yeah, for a
guy who hates the ocean and ye do it right
of sharks, Gino is unbelievable. So he's he's really tough.

(26:00):
I mean, he's from northern Idaho. Like, his dad's a logger.
Like our first two years when I was on the
corn for he didn't make much of money and he
would work in the winters. You'd get up at three
am ago with his dad and build logging roads out
in the middle of the northern night, tone in the woods.
So like he is a tough song of a gun.
But he's also really good at swimming, like very impressive
in the water where I was not shockingly I didn't

(26:23):
do as well in the water. He was just kind
of hopped in and figured it out and really did
really well. But his job was kind of you know,
be obviously be my teammate, but trying to take on
a caddy roll. And he was there supportive in any
way that he could be, and a lot of times
that was participating in a lot of things I was doing.
And there's a few times I'm like why, Like how
there's just no one else on earth that would, especially

(26:45):
in the caddy roll, that would dive on in with
their buddy and you know, jumping cold plunges and then
go swim in some cold ocean waters and go on runs.
And he was down for it all, and you know,
he got a lot up out of it himself. But
looking back at spot that we did that together in
the middle of it, I don't think it will us
sort of got through it without each other.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
For those that don't know what we're talking about, this
is a story that Amanda Balliona's first talk to you
about on CBS. With the training that you did with
the Navy seal to change mindset, to find a new gear,
whatever you want to call it. And I know that
you know a lot of that you want to keep
to yourself, But in general, how much do you think

(27:26):
that everything you learned actually shows up in your day
to day now on the golf course.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah, it's that's a good question. So I work with
gut In Chris Bertram worked with him for eighteen months ish.
Now he's a Canadian snowboard coach. Actually he's on the
national team. He coached the snowboarders, So Mal you would
enjoy him.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
If you could.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Snowboarders to you know, jump off and do triple backflips
and head down these massive mountains like you probably get
a golfer to hit a seven irons. So it's just
been really fun in that aspect and something a little
bit different. But he's taken a few of the snowboarders
down to His name is Ben Ives and he's he's
a former Native Steil and he's kind of getting into
the performance coaching on the on the side, and Chris

(28:10):
thought it would be good for me and I didn't
really know how to get myself into and it was
really fun, but like you said, it was I was
trying to get mentally tougher. And there's more in me
than I think that there is, Like you can always
dig a little bit deeper, and your mind can take
you to great places and you can do I can
do hard things type of stuff. So especially the fall
last fall when I was struggling to stand the one

(28:31):
twenty five and he'd pay well, I don't think it
would have ever been able to kind of go to
that place in my mind and in my body to
perform like I did on that Sunday without having some
of that prior stuff from the Navy steel training involved.
And like what this Navy still seff was not push
ups and sit ups. It was not you know, just
like basically drowning in the surf ours. It was a

(28:53):
lot of stuff on the pool, some cold plunging, which
obviously sucks a lot of people that are into that now.
But and then just swimming and like out past the break,
like you're in hundreds of feet of water and there's ocean.
I mean there's I don't like that at all, Like
there could be a shark there.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, no control at all.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Exactly, Like you're just kind of you have to look
deeply with an inside yourself and control your thoughts in
that aspect. And I don't think I would have got
through last fall without having that training. So that's that
was very beneficial, But I don't really want to go
back into it again.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
You were great, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah, talking to training mate, millions of people you've seen
you with the top off. How is you training.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Again?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
How is your famous routine gone since that moment?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Just as.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
It's funny, I think lacking is probably good. So I'm
really I'm really good at some stretchings.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
That, Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Flexible. I have a pt out here on the road.
I share with other players, so I see him, you know,
almost daily, which is great. But as far as lifting
heavy things like I probably should be doing pretty lacking
on that.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
I guess my kids like that kind.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Yeah, we'll just go with that. So I would say
the overall standard of fitness level is I wouldn't be
able to keep up with you, obviously.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
But no one would be able to a minute.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Kia also does kickbacks, by the way, with the.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
With ankle weights.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yes, wrong, good. Yeah, so it's both of us now
you're competing against.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Yeah, I don't think I would hold up very well.
If you want to go on a walking contest, you
probably can pretty well in a nice, nice long walk,
But other than that, I'm probably not going to.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Do so well.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
That's something that I'm I will get into it for
a few weeks and something will I'll have an excuse
not to go once or twice, and then it's just
starting all back over.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Again.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I will say I played in the Hilton Tournament Champions
LPGA Pro Am earlier in the year, and I hadn't
walked eighteen holes like that for multiple days in a
really long time. And by the last day I was
so wrecked, Like the bottoms of my feet when I
woke up were just like boom boom boo. I could

(31:18):
hear my heart, I could feel my heart beat in
my feet like it was so painful. I don't know
how you guys do this week and wake out it
was psycho.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I've never tried like carrying like a carry back now
because I obviously used to do it as kids all
the time, but now in America, I feel like you
just jump in a car, don't you just go and
play team any buddies. I carried my back to the
day and I'm not joking. My back was in pieces
for like three days.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, I definitely will never. Like like you said, the
only time I ever walk is if it's a tour
round and you know, you take a break from Thanksgiving
through the new year, I'm never gonna walk. And all
of a sudden you get up at the first term
of the year and you're walking and you're like, wow,
this really sucks. Yeah, So there certainly is something about
walking chick on golf, and it's something as much as walking.
It's like you're just constantly on your feet for six

(32:01):
hours and that's the biggest problem. But I definitely will
not be putting any golf bag on my back anytime
soon to go for a walk, That's for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I have an electric push cart.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
There you go. That's perfect, which.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Meld really judging on.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
But I don't like things like that.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Joe, she talked about talking to somebody else and the
you know them electric ones with the little.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Yeah, if you have a thing you put on your
belt that it follows.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Those are I can't those, but I would love one
if anyone is listening once it sounds like a sponsor deal.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, right on the right.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I want one of those. But this one is just
like a boot boop button thing.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
And you know who has those is everyone over the
age of sixty five at my club that walks has
the one they put on their belt and just falls
them around.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
So I can afford those things.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I'm still working on it, Okay, I'm still trying to
come up with that.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Extra in We just need a few more listeners to yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Like and subscribe and subscribe. A question for you.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
You are probably one of the more requested tour players
for interviews and things like that. Would you ever consider
a media career post playing days?

Speaker 5 (33:12):
That's a good question. I a few years ago said yes,
for sure. I've got to do two things kind of
in that field. So I did the Netflix Cup where
I was an analyst. I would say, calling golf shots
for the F one drivers and the PJCH players. I
believe I was four and four of each.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
That was fine.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
There was so many technical difficuilties going on that I realized, like,
you got to be better about this stuff on the fly.
And the amount of homework I did on the golf
course was lacking. I've never seen the golf course before,
so there's a lot of things.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
So you've batically just tried to pullshit.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
You club breaks left, like, no idea, just hit it,
yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
So that didn't end the amount of.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Extra stuff that goes into it, like was a lot,
and I was like, man, I just want like the
microphone on the golf course. Let me go talk about
the golf shots I'm watching. I'm like, okay, that sounds
easy enough. Well, I got to do that at the
Creator Classic last August and Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
For the first one. That was way harder than I
thought it was going to be too.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
I thought it would be easy to call the golf
shot that's in front of me, and I got I
forget who it might have been, Jeff Newbar. I don't
think it was Jeff, might have been someone else in
my ear, and I'm talking about this bugger shot right
in front of me, and I have two things happen.
One the player I was talking about says Joel, I
can hear you. And the second one is a producer

(34:34):
in my ears tells me to wrap it up because
they're going to the next golf shot. And I was like, okay,
I gotta be more concise, I gotta be quicker, and
I have to stand further away.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
That's pretty So that didn't go as well.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
And then they cut off my mic for a few
holes because my group wasn't playing well, and all of
a sudden, I'm.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
That's what was working.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
And then like the fourteen Green, I'm having a beverage
with a fan in my time.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
And next thing I know, Joel David and They're like, Joel,
what do you think of this?

Speaker 5 (35:12):
And I was like, I am fifty yards away over
here chat with some fans right now, I have no
idea what this petas.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
And that was classic.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
And then, as I remember, it was really going well
for me when Daniel Rapport finished with the first give
and came back out to help my group.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
So I think my broadcasting.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Career is limited, and I'm hoping I can play golf
for quite a bit longer so I don't have to
get into that.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I feel like you would still with some more reps,
you would, Yeah, you would.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
You would crush it, but it is hard work.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
When you get used to it, you can walk with
the drink that the fan got you and you know,
then call the show. You could do.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
Certainly there is some fun stuff. I think I would
much more enjoy being like the Johnson Wagner. I was
out there like creating shots and having it like I
think that is just that's obviously been a huge hit
the last few years, and the stuff that he's done
has been great, and obviously it helps that he struggles
maybe around the green.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Times, but he did pretty good at the Players, though he.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Did he did do pretty good.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
His chipping's got a little bit better, I must say.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
It has gotten better, and he's obviously he's just he's
great for that. So I would like to be in
the golf world in some capacity. Obviously you want it
to be on your terms as much as possible, but whatever, this.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Is a long time from now hypothetical.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Situationsfully, Yeah, and I think I would like to play
the Champions Tour as well. Unlike Rory, I would like
to go enjoy fifty plus list of my old buddies
and be competitive and hang out. Yeah, it sounds great.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
That does sound pretty good. Who's that your besies on tour? Then?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Like?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Do you stay with Connie mates every week in my
airbnbs and stuff? Is that how you do it?

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:56):
So Airbnb almost every for sure. Every week that my
family's on the road a lot easier in that aspect.
But Mark and Meghan Hubbard and their two girls are awesome.
We spend a lot of time with them. We're staying
with them next week in Houston, stay with Harry Higgs
out here quite a bit. Ryan and Chelsea brim where
our absolute rock solid.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
They were amazing. They're basically like rigged second parents out
here last year, so.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
It's easier to stay with, you know, families just have
all the chaos and enjoy and kind of dive into
that when you're off the golf course. But definitely airbnd's
and say kind of the Hubbard Higgs brim clan is
definitely our closest crew. But every now and then you'll
branch out and you know, we'll stay with Sea Island
Mafia every now and then hop in with JT.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Post and or Keith or some of those guys.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Drinks a lot of Dick Coke.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
I stay away from that stuff, but there is that
crew can.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
So Sea Island Mafia guys. They're big on.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Oh do you know that?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I don't know. We pick up random things.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I just stand around, okay, people say random things all day.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
There's a lot of Dike coke and a lot of
eminem slying around out here on to her. Oh wow, okay,
back in the day it used to be beers and cigarettes.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Yeah, and I screwed theart coke am. I Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
How did you become such good friends with Harry Higgs?

Speaker 5 (38:14):
I had heard about Harry Higgs through like Keith Mitchell.
They spent some time together on the Latin Tour when
they first started out playing professionally, and then I don't
exactly remember, it might have been Pebble was the first
time our past cross so like into his Ricky year,
and I basically walked up to him. I said, Hey,
I think we're gonna best friends and yeah, and he's like, okay,

(38:36):
sounds good, and we've just kind of like hung out
ever since. We really Harry is I don't know if
simpler is right word, but there's a lot of couch sitting,
and there's a lot of it's just very.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Chill and easy to be around Harry.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Ye, Like he's incredible chef, which I kind of I
didn't realize until a few weeks ago when he stayed
together and it was just the guys that with me, Hubbard,
Higgs and Gino and hubberd Or and Higgs Coke three
nights in a row. It's pretty special stuff. Yeah, and
we just kind of hit it off.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, I mean the four hours I was with him
in the bar with you and Max, he was He's
very easy just to stay around, do you know what
I mean? Like he's just so easy just to get
on with. And like he's got just really good, like
calming energy. For some reason, I don't know, I knew
I would he was. He was just like a bit
like you really don't want to first met you. I
just was like, these boys are solid.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Yeah, I think that there's most of us out here,
and two are actually pretty normal good too. So I
would say, like any you know, any workplace, you're going
to get along with most of us.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
But I think when you.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Get really good guys that are going to cross over,
like I think Harry and Hubbard and the brooms like
they'll be will be really close forever, even when this
game's over long gone with our wife will still be
really close and we'll spend a lot of time together.
And that what's really cool about being out here for
a long time.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
M hm can I was quite a personal question.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
We don't.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh boy, can I talk about you losing your mum? Yes,
and how that's affected. It's obviously I lost my mum.
So I'm just curious how that because how long ago
was that?

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Now that was the spring? Actually it is coming up
next month, it'll be since six Is that nineteen years?
Is that possible?

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Bloody hell? No, that can't be right six.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, that'd been nineteen years, wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
It was April of five? Yeah, oh well twenty years time. Yeah,
how Yeah did.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
That affect you personally and kind of on your golfing
journey just out of interest?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
So for me, I was a junior in high school
when she got sick and when she passed away. So
happened very quickly, and I didn't process it very well.
Kind of always helped for a miracle. That was kind
of way we thought about things. We always kept it
positive in light. So my grieving process took a long time,
and that's why I really struggled kind of in my
college years. Just was kind of a lost kid. And

(40:58):
my mom was I was such a.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
Mom as well.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
We were very spoiled in our house. My mom did
all my laundry, She coicked everything, and she made my bed.
She like if there was anything that ever happened, like
my mom did it for my brother and I. Like
we were just MoMA's voice through and through, so losing her,
like she was the one I was closest with. Could
talk to her about girls, I could talk to her
about whatever I struggling with. Where my dad We're still

(41:22):
super close. It was way much more of a sports
type thing golf relationship, and so losing that, losing my
best friend really was very difficult. But also she's the
one who drove me to all my golf roments because
she was a school teacher so she had summers off,
so we just spent summer driving around hanging out. She
was my biggest fan, So losing that as well, yeah,
you go through a lot of emotions and like at

(41:44):
some point you didn't want to play because you felt like,
you know, you're missing out on her. And then at
some point you kind of wrap around you like, hey,
your mom wants you to play golf and she wants
you to succeed, and like you should start kind of
living life for her and you know, trying to make
trying to make her proud of you because she's still
here every step of the way. And so it was

(42:06):
very difficult for me, and it took a lot longer
than maybe others, but that was just that was kind
of a lost kid for a while. And now you know,
she's with me every step of the way. And I
think a lot of times out here like how cool
would be if my mom was out here watching golf
on a pKa tour and getting to do things we
never never was possible for us. It's like, hey, let's go,

(42:28):
you know, travel around and do whatever, and she would
be the best grandma and like those things I really
miss out on. But at the same time, I know
that she's still with me, and she's looking down, she's
really happy.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yeah, I mean there's definitely certain milestones in life, isn't
there where Like there are a lot of things in
life where you just like, oh, I just wish I
could just call my mom and ask her a question
and stuff. And you know, there's certain things like when
you know, when I met Carli, and you know, when
I got married to Carly and then you know we
had Kai and all that process, like it's it kind
of brings back a lot of emotion. But yeah, I
mean you were really young. I thought I was young,

(42:59):
but you were even younger than me to lose your mom.
So just for someone who's also like lost someone quite
important to them, I think you don't unbeleavble job.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Mate. I just wanted you to know that.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
How old are you now? I was, gosh, she's going
to be twelve years in May, so I would have
been wait, no, thirteen years, so I would have been
twenty four, twenty three.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Yeah, you're already well on your way in your professional
career and that things I think, like you said, like
some of the hardest I remember my wedding day, like
was really difficult.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
I want member see me there, yeah, which, yeah, but
you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Yeah, yeah, And I want like my mom was obviously
the best mom, but also like she loved her her
nieces and nephews that she had. Like, we spend a
lot of time, and I just like imagine like the
type of grandma she'd be, and how often you know,
she would just be around all the time, and it
would be like, yeah, hanging out like missing all of
this time. Yeah, it makes you think about a lot

(43:54):
like that, You're rehashing things that maybe you hadn't thought
about for for a long time. But then you do
these life miles stance and so yeah, we certainly still
mess her, but we also still talk about her and
keep her memory around a lot, and I think that's
really important as well.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Yeah, we have we actually have a picture of my
mum at the side of Kai's bed, and he literally says,
Nana all the time he knows that it's you know
what I mean, Like he picks up, which is quite
weird actually because we we do talk about it. But
he's also like fourteen fifteen months old, he shouldn't really
all right, but yeah, it's weird. It's he'll wake up
and just like grab it sometimes, Like that's weird.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Yeah, it's something that he'll learn obviously more about.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Yeah, probably probably will see a lot of Kai in her,
which will be Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
When he was born, I was like, oh shit. I
was like, he's literally I just all I saw was
my mum and him. I was like, that's really weird. Yeah,
it was crazy, but very cool, very cool. But yeah,
but yeah, thanks for saying that, mate. I just yeah,
I just I just I just like asking people really
because it's just a very unique and personal thing. And

(44:57):
I think that I also struggled with it and everyone
telling me what that they think I should and shouldn't do,
and I was like, just fuck off.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Like, just let me deal with it on my own,
like I'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
You ultimately, you try to do the best that you
can't you just trying to survive and figure it all out.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
And figure all your emotions out. So, yeah, you're exactly right.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Like, I think a lot of the hardest things is
people are telling you what should be happening or how
you should be feeling and how other people are dealing
with it. But that's like just a very unfair thing
to do. And everyone's going to take their own time
and kind of go through it their own way. And
as long as I say, you kind of keep them
between the bumpers and not let them estally, Yeah, hit
a gut ball, like, hey, people are going to struggle

(45:36):
through this, but on the other side of it, they're
going to be stronger and they're gonna be better I mean,
I didn't say better off, but they're gonna they're gonna
learn a lot from this and they can grow a
lot from it as well.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I mean, you guys both do an amazing job of
keeping their memories alive. And Mel you always talk about
how you know when you got back out onto the
range and how are with you and how important that
was for you to find your love with the game
back again. And obviously you talk so much better and
I've been really open about that. I think the fact
that you know, to be so open about it, I
feel like I obviously can't relate.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I don't know, but I can only imagine that would
be very difficult.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
Yeah, And I think it's at this point, being so
far removed now you only have happy memories and you
only think about the great times and all of that stuff,
which is almost I just think about all how much
fun it would be out here now for sure.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I actually listened to a podcast about grief and it
really resonated with me, and it was about how grief
is almost like love, how that it just is constantly evolving,
and how like sometimes it can go up and then down,
and then it goes up a little bit again and down.
It's you know, it's like being with like me being
around to Carli. Some days I just want to throw
out the house and be like, what the hell are
we doing? You know, I want to kill you, And

(46:47):
the next time on my lid, I'm in love with you. Yeah,
you know what I mean. But that's kind of what
it's saying, is that it just evolves like look like
but you never stop loving them, you know what I mean.
And so it's just yeah, it was just quite interesting.
It really resonated with me.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
That is actually even.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Like parts of the day sometimes like sometimes you know,
I think about it quite a bit of but there's
certain parts of the day or certain moments in time
where I'm like, oh oh yeah, right, yeah, I just
I don't think of something about her, like it might
just be like a certain flower or someone walked past
me to stay in the supermarket and had a perfume on.
I smelt that in probably six years and it just
felt like boom straight back. It was weird. Yeah, but

(47:24):
but yeah, so that's it. I just yeah, it just
really resonated with me that it kind of evolves like love.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
And I thought it was quite I know, it just
it was very good. That's actually I've never heard that before.
I just enjoy learning, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
I like, I like to see how other people have
done it, and I think you've done a fantastic job.
So I just wanted to bring that up, and I'm
really bad. I appreciate you being open about it, so
thank you certainly.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
All Right, Joel, I sent you some of these. Mel
might have added a few, but we're going to go
through superlatives on tour.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
In your tour life.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
What's your most likely meal after a tough loss.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
If there's a Taco Bell in the area, it's gonna
be Taco Bell probably.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
And what's the winter meal?

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Definitely a nice steak, like the best steak I can
get my hands on steak and potatoes and some some
martinis that evening probably after that's a nice way to celebrate.
But yeah, I mean talk about the steak.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
There's I guess you're technically steak into Taco Bell, but
there'd be two very different things for me.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
A different type of steak.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
After talk about it.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
You have to eat your own like you have to
eat like multiple pints of ice cream to drown your sorrows.
Like that's a nice way to get through the evening.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, a great eat right there? People? All right, So
who has like the short is I'm quite?

Speaker 4 (48:52):
I quite? This is me being in that.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Who has that the short tist like warm up on
the range?

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Ooh, that's a great question, look.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
At you, a great question.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yes, I used to play did you do that?

Speaker 4 (49:05):
To play? Weird?

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I was the shortest warm up? That's why I want
to know I was.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
There has been multiple times.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Let's see Norman Jong he was kind of I think
he was a rookie last year multiple times where he's
just hit multiple putts and has bounced to diversity.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
No way, really, yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Correct, Zach Blair. We'll get in there and get pretty
quick at it. Just a few balls and off he goes.
I think everyone knows, like the history of John Daily,
just a few drivers and off he goes. But this
new era of golf is a lot different of you know,
everyone's ninety minutes beforehand.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
We're stretching, warming up, and you get to do the
full hour.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
But every now and then there'll be someone that kind
of surprises you with the short one. But for the
most part, we're all buttoned up and trying really hard
for a while. I mean, if it's if I'm teeing
off last on Saturday or Sunday, I'm not afraid to
maybe make it slightly quicker than others, right.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Laura Davies used to have a saying in her career
that if she couldn't see the drive manage from the clubhouse,
she wouldn't warm up. And that is dead true, like
she would hear in the Net. I've seen her probably
a dozen events here in the Net.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Wait can I ask a Laura Davies's question or just
like a tea turf question.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, so, okay, I saw that.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I don't know if you guys saw this video yesterday,
but somebody posted a video of her making a tee
turf tea with like a wedge on the Don't people
get mad about that?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
You can't tell she's done it?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
What's the kit or two things?

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Okay, so no nobody cares. So she obviously gets a
sandwidge and snacks it up against the four. So the
reason she does it, she doesn't She's been honest about this.
She feels she's gonna hook it unless she really has
to absolutely bust one. She will literally do that every time.
Now Charlie Hull going back to Charlie Hall, it does.
But no, but this is just a normal story. Whenever

(50:57):
she has a press string with any but mainly with
her driving three, when she takes a dibbot, so on
every single tea box about two yards behind the actual
line of the tea is a chunk dibbot and it's
from Charlie Hill. So she actually does more dams because
she doesn't replace it with Laura snaps it up and
then she'll just snack it that down you can't tell.
And she always Laura always teas up on the right

(51:18):
side of the t box because she fades it.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
Interesting, There's also there's one spot like in the rule
book it actually says like you especially, I mean, Laura
is rather she's on the older side. But even like
long before her time, it used to be a thing
like that's just kind of what people did at times
as well before I mean, they had the sand Ty's
and they had all the stuff. But actually in the
rule book it says like you are allowed to damage

(51:43):
the damaged the box. I know what you're saying, Like
diffit goes back in. But yeah, does that mean that
like on part of the reason I allowed to take
gibbots with irons, Like.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Right, yeah, I mean I think it's legend I ever since.
I mean I'm obviously a massive Laura fan. I think
it's legendary. And she absolutely strives it.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
I think it's amazing how efficient she is too.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Like, oh, just grab the wedge and then throws the wedge,
literally throws the wedge back to the caddie perfectly, like
the caddie just literally doesn't even look and just goes
smack and just grabs it.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Did you also mention you got to play and they
saw hun cup with Laura?

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Yes, yes, hand cup dude. I mean that was the peak.
I was absolute screwed after that because that is just
the because I grew up the reason I played golf,
and she hates me saying this is because of Laura.
I mean I watched Tiger play, but then as a
woman like she was my idol. I love the way
that she played, like obviously the way she played golf
and she was just like very much herself and then

(52:40):
and she smashed like absolute smashed it, miles. But I
love that she played snooker and darts and football. She's
an unbelievable athlete. So we used to play like cricket
on the beach in Australia. Mate, She's unbelievable, Like any
kind of sport that she touches, it's like gold to her,
like it's just her thing.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
A book about her.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah, and she's just an unbelieving woman like she's I
have always adored Laura and become quite good friends with
over the years and just absolute legend, just one of
the lads, just an unbelievable woman. So yeah, she's a
great commentator, unbelievable commentator, like as I knew she would be.
She just loved sport, like she used to have like
five TVs in a house and it was a different

(53:19):
sport on EAHTV, like a Saturday. Yeah, she's just a legend.
Laura's a legend. But yeah, that was cool to play
steal Homer this. Sorry, Yeah, it was awesome, very cool.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Who's most likely to be late for their tea time?

Speaker 5 (53:32):
I'm trying to think of where it happened recently. Mat
Hoocher is known to be kind of very close.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I think I've heard that.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Yeah, I don't know if he was actually late in
the last few years, but I forget who was there
was someone who actually was a few minutes late.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
I think it's been one.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
Of those weird rain delay things where we went back out.
But Matt Coocher, I just leard on Saturday last week
at the Players and he like the putt and green
to the first tea was not that far. But I'm thinking,
like I cut it. I don't like say it on
the first team forever. So I get there two to
three minutes before it's you off, which is fine. But
like we're talking, like sometimes it gets within ten to
fifteen seconds for these guys walking on the tee, and

(54:10):
I think Coocher is the worst defender of that, so
I wouldn't be shocked if at some point it catches.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Him that It gives me just thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
I don't know, I or caddies hate it, but so far,
so good for me.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
He's like a player on tool that has like gadgets
every single week and is like, do you know what
I mean? Has something on their arms, something on the wrist,
something between the legs, something on them head.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
Charlie Hoffman, for sure, Charlie Hoffman is like ten Cup
when really is struggling in the movie and a lot
of times for it's kind of the same with Charlie,
but there's a full on like he's got stuff everywhere
all the time. I feel like Eric van Royan is
also doing a few things. There's always there's always somewhere

(54:56):
around helping. But shock Man I went to It happened
to be we had a flight delay or something, so
he ran over to Hoffmin's house for a bit. Then
I go to kind of his gym, Golferry, a man
cave deal, and he's got stuff everywhere.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
But there's a chain.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
There's just like this long chain and I'm like, what
what could this possibly use for? And he's like, oh,
you wrap it around your waist and then you see
if you can move the chain without moving, And I'm
like what, this doesn't make any sense to me. So
you get like a putting posture and the chain is
hanging between your legs and you're supposed to move, get
the chain to swing without moving, like visibly moving your body.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
This is like four years ago and I'm still blown
away by it. But every now and then I see
him with his chain and I like, I can't even
look at it anymore. It just boggles my mind. I'm like,
somehow this chain starts swinging.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
But yeah, he's got it all.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
There's always a ball or there's some bands or there's
something going.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
On with them. Funny, he's not a guys around. I mean,
he's made it twenty years out here.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, yeah, he's here this week.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
I think I just took some money off from the
practice around.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Thank you, look at you love that. Thanks Chuck.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
All right, last one for me, And you can take
this in any direction you want to go what's your
favorite current like golf beef or person with weird hot
takes on Twitter, there's a lot of weird stuff going on,
and there's.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
A lot of stuff there is. There's a lot going on.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
There'sh with the Division and pros, you know, and with
the Live and PJ two or who knows what's going on.
I would it's hard to believe anything you read on
Twitter anymore. No one knows what's going on. And I
feel like at this point of blocked like all of
the bots, so I don't have my feet as relatively
cleaned up from all the junk. But I think we
got to if we're thinking about a great beef of

(56:56):
all time, we got to go back a little bit.
We got to go to Keegan Bradley and mcgallan on
hell Him and it Im.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
That's a great one.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
It's a really good one. It's like so random too,
it Caddy, Wasn't it just all.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Set the scene? For those that don't know set the scene.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
I believe it was at Harding Park somewhere in the
Bay Area.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
But they're playing the match play and it got late
in the match, but miguil so they were like opposite
sides of fairways. But at some point Keegan's caddy Pepsi,
starts in and chirping at Miguel for some odd reason.
I don't know exact details on it, but they start like,
you know, twenty thirty years apart, off the sides of
the faraway and they end up in each other's face to

(57:37):
the point they're pointing fingers, and it's like for golf,
it's as close and it's like in each other's face
as they're getting And at some point he didn't like
and Keegan steps in front of his caddy and gets
in his face. And for golf, I thought it was
very entertaining and great, okay, and there should be some
more that. There should just be more people calling each
other out out there.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Now. I'm not the guide to maybe you're gonna it's
not gonna be me.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
I just kind of you in the hockey rink.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
Definitely not me. But there's there's a few.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
I think it's always funny to hear in the locker
room who who some guys enjoy and who.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
They don't enjoy playing with.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
But for the most point, we just argue about slow
play and we just yell about who's slow.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Out there, and yeah, other than that, we're.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Just a bunch of pansies like everyone else who just
sitting chirp at at lunch table and nothing ever happens
about it. So when something actually happens on the golf course,
Likekegan and Miguel, it's actually pretty entertaining.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna miss the lot kerreem chat for sure
because like.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Shame is so he went really close to my line.
What fuck you know?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
This is good exactly?

Speaker 4 (58:49):
You should have probably said see too much, Like, yeah,
I'll just complain about it, nothing will ever happen.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Yes, it's funny who's the judgest about slow play?

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Who's the most enraged?

Speaker 5 (59:00):
I would, I mean off the top of the guy
who complains of us is Nate lash Like. But it's
interesting because he's probably one of the slower players out
there and he just doesn't quite get it. So classic.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
Yeah, it's it's typically the slower players complain about the
slow play, and then they end up being the problem.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Have you heard that thing recently that they put together,
I don't know if it was barstools or whatever, put
like that stroking. Everyone keeps saying stroking like.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Oh have you seen it?

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Like, well, they should just stroke guys like you know,
I would stroke guys.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
And then it's like, you know, the volunteers.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Said they wanted to stroke me, and it's like a
complaint with all these players. It's actually really funny.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
I did see it, and it's worth a laugh, that's
for sure.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Yeah, it's amazing what the Internet can put together and
what they can come up with and make it.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Everything in golf already sounds so weird and messed up.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Well, it's not the most, like you know what I mean.
I don't know I'm going to offend people if I
say it, but you know, I mean it's not the
most you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Know, Yeah, that's what the point. Oh just a fun people.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Yeah, well, because your sidekick is Miss America, so like you,
you don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
To, by the way, like that is my dream comes
to you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
I say some things, Joel, and I can see at
the corner of my screen just like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
I enjoyed them. I enjoyed the reaction, Joel.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
Sometimes it's still on purpose.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
I mean a few of the highlights already from open
toe Shoes.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
What open to Shoe was? Yeah, I have a wife.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Here are they yours listening? Yeah, we couldn't see them, Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
They're really nice, like a two year old.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
Also, I don't I gotta show you this if I
can flip this camera around just for mel I don't know,
but what is this?

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
This is a map for you as well, so you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Can point out where par Is.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
I was nervous. It was the first episode and I
was all jittery somewhere over here. Yes, I understand South America. Yeah, excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
If you run into a girl named Mel Reed there,
it's not our Mel Reed. It's a drag dealer.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Not a good laugh days everyone finished. All right, Well,
love you to have you on, Jill. Thanks so much
for you late night.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Yeah, classic here, I'm here to help, here to help, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
We appreciate you for coming to hang with the girlies.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Absolutely well you guys are you? Guys are awesome. I'm
a big fan of both. I know most of the
world is. My wife is jealous. I just got to
chat with you too, for whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
It is an hour.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
So one of these days we'll have to catch up
on the road and you girls can actually go hang
out and I'll stay home with with Kai and riggs.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
They can become best friends.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I'll stay with the I'll stay with the boys, all right, Well,
Lana and I have a mercury.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yes, the boys will stay with the boys, and the
girls can go and have a girls stay with the
ropen toe shoes on and Margarie is or whatever.

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