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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Rachel gos Rogue. Welcome back to a juicy
episode of Rachel Goes Rogue. This is your host, Rachel
Savannah Levis, and today we are talking about the headlines
that have been popping up very consistently this past week
or two. I have my producer Juliet here, who has
(00:30):
background in publicity. All right, Julia, let's get into these headlines.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, there were just a few this week, weren't there.
This is busy, okay, past members potentially filming other shows.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
What do I think about that? I mean, what else
are they going to do?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Right?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah? Good point.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I mean vander Pump Rules isn't predicted to come back
anytime soon, so it only makes sense that Schwartz is
making a cameo on season nine of Summer House and
Sina and Lala are going over to the Valley. So yeah,
it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
So do your best guess right now?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Do you think VPR is coming back and in the
same format or differently? If it's coming back at all.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I heard that they are recasting the whole cast of
Vander Pump Rules, So if it does come back, it's
going to come back with all new characters and cast members.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's just what I heard.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
So interesting, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And then I think from my perspective from PR, I
think about it like VPR had great numbers still, so
I think for Bravo, how do they not Now they
do have new slates of shows, so it'll depend on,
you know, their overall budget and stuff. But just from
a simplicity point, the numbers were good, so why wouldn't
they bring them back? And then to your other point,
(01:54):
I think what people have to remember is it's a
network and it's their talent, and so if they don't
have them on that show, some of them might have
contracts that they.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Still need to fulfill. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But even still, these people have been there for a
long time, so it makes more sense if they bring
if they're making the network money, and because they're likable,
they're going to put them under the shows.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, and every year with vander pump Rules, we never
knew if there was going to be another season or
not until right before filming got started, Like right before
production got started. We would get a call and you know,
give them the download of what's happening in our lives
and we wouldn't know until that happened. So the fact
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that they've announced that they postponed production so far and
that they don't see a day in time of picking
up again, it seems like it's not likely that we're
going to see vander Pump Rules the same as it's been.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And then what about some of your Ormer castmates saying
they would never go on the valley, and then now
they're filming the valley.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
What do you say to.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Say it's wild that they said that they would never
go on the valley. Of course, of course they're going
to go to the valley. I saw this happening from
a mile away, Like as soon as they announced the valley,
I was like, oh, I can see Shina going over there,
and I can see Lala going over there. And I
think the reason why it makes sense is because Sheen
and Laala have babies and they're in a different stage
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in their life. They're practically in their forties now, which
is nothing wrong. It's just, you know, Vanderpump Rules is
set based around these people who are trying to make
it in the industry, and they're taking up jobs to
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make it by in order to like get their name
out in this entertainment world. And I think that is
now the issue where I think vander Pump Rules wants
to keep its authenticity with that type of portrayal in
the characters, and it's just not that anymore. Everyone on
(04:10):
the show has evolved in some sort of way, you know,
maybe not evolutionary involvement for the best, but nonetheless, like
it's not vander Pump Rules is not really the best
platform for these characters that we've seen throughout the years,
or that you guys have seen throughout the.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Years, those same drama New neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, it seems like it okay.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And Jax was very vocal and told you to stay
away from the valley when you announced you were leaving
the show. Do you think he's he said that because
he's protective of the show. Do you think he was
just riding the let's be angry at Rachel bandwagon?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I would think he was probably riding the bandwagon let's
all be mad at Rachel, I would guess.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You know, firstly, Jax came at you and told you
to stay away from the valley. Now some of the
girls have filmed La La and Sheena and he's kind
of going back at them and telling them to stay
away from the Valley.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Why do you think is he being protective over it
or what do you think it is?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I don't know what makes him think that he has
the authority just to determine who makes the cast of
the Valley and who doesn't. So I don't know if
he's just trying to like throw his two cents into
the universe and like dictate who gets the spot, or
just make it known that, like if you come on
the Valley, you're not welcome here and he might make
(05:35):
your life a living hell. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I'm not sure his strategy there.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay, And did you watch a last season? Did you
watch The Valley last season? I?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Did? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And will you watch again this season?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Not if I don't need to?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So, Also, in addition to Sina and La La making
a move Shorts, I guess was rumored to or did
Summer House? Do you think that's a good fit or
what do you think about that one?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah? Didn't he do winter House?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Was it Summerhouse or Winterhouse that Tom Sandoval and Tom
Schartz were both promised to go, but then when scandival
hit they took it away from Tom Sandival.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So is that a thing do they like?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If you're good on VPR, do you get sort of
promised the spot to go to Summer or Winterhouse?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Is that how that works?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It was Winterhouse?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So yeah, Shorts went on Winter House and they promised
a spot to both to Sandoval and Tom Shortz, but
when scandival hit, they took that away from Tom Sandoval.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Got it okay?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Now, so Shorts going on Summer House, is that a
good fit or what do.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
You think about him going on it?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I guess again, yeah, I think the popular cast members
often do you get an opportunity or it seems like
they've been giving them opportunities to do these other spinoff
shows or shows.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That are kind of like related with Vander Pump.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Got it okay? All right?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Next, Stossi is back joining vander Pump Villa and lands
her own show.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Nice you think about that?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So you've said before that she gave you the advice
that bad behavior is rewarded on reality TV.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do you think this is an example of that?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I mean, first of all, I think her joining vander
Pump Villa is going to get ratings up for Vander
Pump Villa. And I know a lot of fans have
been asking for Stossy to come back, and I think
that this is a smart move on her part to
entice the fans by joining vander Pump Villa. Not only that,
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but then start her own show. It says her first
project is developing a comedic half hour docuseriies called Stossy says, So,
I'm not quite sure what that is, but if she
is starting her own show, in her own spinoff, then
it is kind of giving her more of a creative
position of power, way more than she would get by
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rejoining the cast of vander Pump Rules. She's consistently said
that she's not interested in coming back to join vander
Pump Rules. And she told this to Jeff Lewis. She
was asked to join the cast of The Valley Right,
and she said, every single fiber in my being said
not to film that show. When I heard that, I
(08:43):
was like, good for her, you know, like she's taken
this time away from this reality TV world, and she's
been very transparent about how reality television stunts your emotional intelligence.
So I was like for Stossy, like she sees the
matrix and she's choosing to step out of it.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
But now I think she just sees this as an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
To kind of take back her power a little bit
in a way where she gets to create her own show.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, well, everything in Hollywood is you give to get right.
So in this situation, it looks like she did or
probably agreed to do vander pump Villa in order to
get her own show right, So she kind of went
into a place maybe she didn't want to go, but
could tolerate because she knew she'd bring them ratings and
then she gets her show.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Or yeah, it could be a means to an end
as well for her publicity whise.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Just as her brand as a whole.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So now when you look at everything and you say, Okay,
they brought back Jacks, they brought back Kristen, and now
they're bringing back Stossin no matter what dramas proceeded, do
you think they should have all been brought back or
you know, this sort of seems like there's a.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You're fired, but come back. I don't know what do
you think?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think everyone deserves a second chance, And it seems
like maybe like people have this period of public shaming
and then when the next scandal breaks, people forget.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And then you're freed from the chains.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It seems like like it was pretty quick after a
scandalval hit that Jacks had his whole redemption and starting
his own bar, and then the Valley.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, it's it's very very interesting, for a lack of
a better word.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I will say too, when you think about your situation,
no matter how dramatic it all was, and pretending we
didn't know all these things that happened thereafter, production certainly
didn't skip a beat in coming back to you. So
you know, I look at that from a standpoint of again,
(11:00):
it's television, and they're not mad at anybody whoever's.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Bringing in ratings, whoever's bringing money, drama. It's drama.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's television, and so you know, I look at all
of that and I think it's all means to the end.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Everybody wins.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
The network wins because they get great content and clicks,
and the individual wins because they get a paycheck and
a platform to do with it what they want. Tom's
(11:35):
girlfriend has come at you for speaking about it.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
She came at you kind of hard. How do you
feel about that?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So, Victoria says, the girl leaves vpr ruins people's lives,
but then lives and breathes vander Pump Rules after still
continues to try and ruin people's lives. If you were genuine,
you would reach out on a personal level, but instead
you post it for attention and relevance. Also, this is
(12:02):
so obvious you had your publicist reach out to TMZ
for a pity party and attention.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Gross, where do you want to start.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Let's break it down line by line, shall we? Okay,
let's go for it since we're talking about it. So
this is basically in response to my post to Jack's
Taylor wishing him the best in his recovery. So she says,
the girl leads vander Pump Rules, ruins people's lives, but
(12:33):
then lives and breathes vander Pump Rules after still continues
to try to ruin people's lives. I would say to that,
maybe look at who you're dating right now, and if
it's quote unquote ruining people's lives, then there's two in
that to make that a reality, and you're dating the
(12:56):
other person. So I don't know why you're focusing on
me and I'm not continuing to try to ruin people's lives.
I really don't know how I have the power to
ruin other people's lives, especially now.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And you reach out to Jack's was sincere.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, and she's saying I should have reached out to
him on a personal level. I don't have a way
to do that. I don't have his phone number. He
has me blocked on Instagram, So unless I wanted to
buy a cameo from him and tell him through a
cameo message, there was no way for me to reach
out to Jack's on a personal level. And she's saying,
(13:36):
I post it for attention and relevance. Well, the truth
of the matter is, I don't know how else to
say this without coming across a certain way. But like,
I guess I am relevant, honestly, Like, I don't understand
how Victoria is telling me that I'm putting this out
here to be relevant.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Jack's checked himself into a mental health.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Facility, and so did I, So, like, I don't know
who else is more qualified to talk about this specific topic.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And you were on the show and your perspective is
what you know. I'm sorry, but hers isn't. I mean,
maybe she's trying to get on the show, but she
wasn't on the show, so not sure hers is relevant.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I mean, I'm not seeking relevance by any means. I
made a comment. I shared my perspective, and ultimately it
is well wishes to Jack's and his recovery. So the
people trying to spin it and say that I'm doing
something wrong in this specific situation, I don't know what
to say to those people.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's just not that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
But it's also very ironic because it's the same sort
of drum we've had to keep beating is somebody says
something and brings you in, you defend yourself, and then
they say you're your you can't let go of under
rules that you're.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Trying to hang into, right, It's that cast it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well, yeah, in all fairness, like vander Pump Rules is
non it's not airing anymore. So like, yeah, I do
understand the perspective that me talking about vander Pump Rules
now is spending my time and energy on this subject.
But I think maybe to remind people that, like there
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are reporters out there, like quote unquote reporters like the
nick Vials of the world and the up and atoms
of the world reporting on this stuff weekly, saying their
opinions and their two cents and this quote unquote factual evidence,
and need I remind you, like I am one degree
(15:42):
removed from the situation, and therefore I feel like my
insight and my perspective has some relevance. And so if
you're interested in knowing what that is, then that's that's
the purpose of me talking about it now.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And I don't remember did you did you tell me
to call TMZ?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Did TMC even report on this? I don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Did you call TMC?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Did you absolutely did it? I read it like everybody else.
We aren't We don't need to drum up publicity on
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
We are not.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So yeah, And that's the thing too, Like with that,
with the statement that I put out, it was very
much like matter of fact. It's like kind of stating
obvious and reminding people of the situation of what happened,
and not wishing ill will on anyone, right, I know.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
So let's just talk about the fact that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The main reason that you're you're talking about this particular
thing at all is because.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
You lived it. You were the first in I think
most of reality television.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
To go through what you went through, you set a
precedent for what Jacks is going through right now and
anybody here afterwards. And let's also remind people the time
we reacted to somebody leaking the news, and that's why
we told them where they were. His people came out
and they are talking about where.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
He is, and I feel like, what do you mean believe?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So when you when you went into the facility, our
plan was to not let anybody know, and my plan
in particular was to give you time to get into
treatment and heal. The only reason that we put out
a statement saying where you were is because somebody from
the meadows leaked it, and then the whole cast went
into the fact that you're at a spot right and
(17:36):
took it lightly and made it all a pr thing
and minimized it. So we had to come out and
put out a statement. Now fast forward to hear where
his reps actually put out.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
The statement he was in treatment for no other reason, right.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And and I'm not wishing ill on him, But then
everybody jumping on why are you talking about it? Your
entire platform This plan is so that you can talk
about what you went through. What you've learned from it
mental health, how to avoid the caveats. Your whole platform
is built on this experience because you were the one
of the first ones that actually went into a mental
(18:14):
health facility, and you were in there for three months.
So how does it make you feel to have all
these people still you know, here we are a year later,
and they're telling you you don't have a right to
speak on it and double standard.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Let's praise Jacks for taking care of his business.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
My whole platform right now is speaking from my experience,
and my mission is to keep this from happening. Like
the mental health aspect in the reality TV world is
really what I've been talking about for the past I
don't know, six months, And so when I am speaking
about the situation of Jack's checking himself into a mental
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health facility, it's coming from a place of genuine concern
and I do have a unique perspective, and frankly, no
one else is more qualified to talk about this topic
than I am. I don't know why people would think
that I wouldn't talk about this. Like when I heard
the news, I got so fired up, Like I was like, Okay,
(19:18):
when are we podcasting next to you guys, because this
is important, and if you guys tuned into that podcast
like that, I feel like that was the most firing
and passionate I've ever recorded. It felt really good and
it felt like I had a lot to say because
this is what I've been talking about this whole time.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Totally, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
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This is Rachel gos Rogue. Welcome back to a juicy
episode of Rachel Goes Rogue. This is your host, Rachel
Savannah Levis, and today we are talking about the headlines
that have been popping up very consistently this past week
or two. I have my producer Juliet here, who has
(00:30):
background in publicity. All right, Julia, let's get into these headlines.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, there were just a few this week, weren't there.
This is busy, okay, past members potentially filming other shows.
What do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
What do I think about that? I mean, what else
are they going to do?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Right?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah? Good point.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I mean vander Pump Rules isn't predicted to come back
anytime soon, so it only makes sense that Schwartz is
making a cameo on season nine of Summer House and
Sina and Lala are going over to the Valley. So yeah,
it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
So do your best guess right now?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Do you think VPR is coming back and in the
same format or differently? If it's coming back at all.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I heard that they are recasting the whole cast of
Vander Pump Rules, So if it does come back, it's
going to come back with all new characters and cast members.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's just what I heard.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
So interesting, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And then I think from my perspective from PR, I
think about it like VPR had great numbers still, so
I think for Bravo, how do they not Now they
do have new slates of shows, so it'll depend on,
you know, their overall budget and stuff. But just from
a simplicity point, the numbers were good, so why wouldn't
they bring them back? And then to your other point,
(01:54):
I think what people have to remember is it's a
network and it's their talent, and so if they don't
have them on that show, some of them might have
contracts that they.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Still need to fulfill. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
But even still, these people have been there for a
long time, so it makes more sense if they bring
if they're making the network money, and because they're likable,
they're going to put them under the shows.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, and every year with vander pump Rules, we never
knew if there was going to be another season or
not until right before filming got started, Like right before
production got started. We would get a call and you know,
give them the download of what's happening in our lives
and we wouldn't know until that happened. So the fact
(02:37):
that they've announced that they postponed production so far and
that they don't see a day in time of picking
up again, it seems like it's not likely that we're
going to see vander Pump Rules the same as it's been.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And then what about some of your Ormer castmates saying
they would never go on the valley, and then now
they're filming the valley.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
What do you say to.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Say it's wild that they said that they would never
go on the valley. Of course, of course they're going
to go to the valley. I saw this happening from
a mile away, Like as soon as they announced the valley,
I was like, oh, I can see Shina going over there,
and I can see Lala going over there. And I
think the reason why it makes sense is because Sheen
and Laala have babies and they're in a different stage
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in their life. They're practically in their forties now, which
is nothing wrong. It's just, you know, Vanderpump Rules is
set based around these people who are trying to make
it in the industry, and they're taking up jobs to
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make it by in order to like get their name
out in this entertainment world. And I think that is
now the issue where I think vander Pump Rules wants
to keep its authenticity with that type of portrayal in
the characters, and it's just not that anymore. Everyone on
(04:10):
the show has evolved in some sort of way, you know,
maybe not evolutionary involvement for the best, but nonetheless, like
it's not vander Pump Rules is not really the best
platform for these characters that we've seen throughout the years,
or that you guys have seen throughout the.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Years, those same drama New neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, it seems like it okay.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And Jax was very vocal and told you to stay
away from the valley when you announced you were leaving
the show. Do you think he's he said that because
he's protective of the show. Do you think he was
just riding the let's be angry at Rachel bandwagon?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I would think he was probably riding the bandwagon let's
all be mad at Rachel, I would guess.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You know, firstly, Jax came at you and told you
to stay away from the valley. Now some of the
girls have filmed La La and Sheena and he's kind
of going back at them and telling them to stay
away from the Valley.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Why do you think is he being protective over it
or what do you think it is?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I don't know what makes him think that he has
the authority just to determine who makes the cast of
the Valley and who doesn't. So I don't know if
he's just trying to like throw his two cents into
the universe and like dictate who gets the spot, or
just make it known that, like if you come on
the Valley, you're not welcome here and he might make
(05:35):
your life a living hell. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I'm not sure his strategy there.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay, And did you watch a last season? Did you
watch The Valley last season? I?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Did? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
And will you watch again this season?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Not if I don't need to?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So, Also, in addition to Sina and La La making
a move Shorts, I guess was rumored to or did
Summer House? Do you think that's a good fit or
what do you think about that one?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah? Didn't he do winter House?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Was it Summerhouse or Winterhouse that Tom Sandoval and Tom
Schartz were both promised to go, but then when scandival
hit they took it away from Tom Sandival.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So is that a thing do they like?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
If you're good on VPR, do you get sort of
promised the spot to go to Summer or Winterhouse?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Is that how that works?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
It was Winterhouse?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So yeah, Shorts went on Winter House and they promised
a spot to both to Sandoval and Tom Shortz, but
when scandival hit, they took that away from Tom Sandoval.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Got it okay?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Now, so Shorts going on Summer House, is that a
good fit or what do.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
You think about him going on it?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I guess again, yeah, I think the popular cast members
often do you get an opportunity or it seems like
they've been giving them opportunities to do these other spinoff
shows or shows.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That are kind of like related with Vander Pump.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Got it okay? All right?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Next, Stossi is back joining vander Pump Villa and lands
her own show.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Nice you think about that?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
So you've said before that she gave you the advice
that bad behavior is rewarded on reality TV.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Do you think this is an example of that?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I mean, first of all, I think her joining vander
Pump Villa is going to get ratings up for Vander
Pump Villa. And I know a lot of fans have
been asking for Stossy to come back, and I think
that this is a smart move on her part to
entice the fans by joining vander Pump Villa. Not only that,
(07:56):
but then start her own show. It says her first
project is developing a comedic half hour docuseriies called Stossy says, So,
I'm not quite sure what that is, but if she
is starting her own show, in her own spinoff, then
it is kind of giving her more of a creative
position of power, way more than she would get by
(08:20):
rejoining the cast of vander Pump Rules. She's consistently said
that she's not interested in coming back to join vander
Pump Rules. And she told this to Jeff Lewis. She
was asked to join the cast of The Valley Right,
and she said, every single fiber in my being said
not to film that show. When I heard that, I
(08:43):
was like, good for her, you know, like she's taken
this time away from this reality TV world, and she's
been very transparent about how reality television stunts your emotional intelligence.
So I was like for Stossy, like she sees the
matrix and she's choosing to step out of it.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
But now I think she just sees this as an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
To kind of take back her power a little bit
in a way where she gets to create her own show.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, well, everything in Hollywood is you give to get right.
So in this situation, it looks like she did or
probably agreed to do vander pump Villa in order to
get her own show right, So she kind of went
into a place maybe she didn't want to go, but
could tolerate because she knew she'd bring them ratings and
then she gets her show.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Or yeah, it could be a means to an end
as well for her publicity whise.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Just as her brand as a whole.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So now when you look at everything and you say, Okay,
they brought back Jacks, they brought back Kristen, and now
they're bringing back Stossin no matter what dramas proceeded, do
you think they should have all been brought back or
you know, this sort of seems like there's a.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You're fired, but come back. I don't know what do
you think?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think everyone deserves a second chance, And it seems
like maybe like people have this period of public shaming
and then when the next scandal breaks, people forget.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And then you're freed from the chains.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It seems like like it was pretty quick after a
scandalval hit that Jacks had his whole redemption and starting
his own bar, and then the Valley.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, it's it's very very interesting, for a lack of
a better word.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I will say too, when you think about your situation,
no matter how dramatic it all was, and pretending we
didn't know all these things that happened thereafter, production certainly
didn't skip a beat in coming back to you. So
you know, I look at that from a standpoint of again,
(11:00):
it's television, and they're not mad at anybody whoever's.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Bringing in ratings, whoever's bringing money, drama. It's drama.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's television, and so you know, I look at all
of that and I think it's all means to the end.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Everybody wins.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
The network wins because they get great content and clicks,
and the individual wins because they get a paycheck and
a platform to do with it what they want. Tom's
(11:35):
girlfriend has come at you for speaking about it.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
She came at you kind of hard. How do you
feel about that?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So, Victoria says, the girl leaves vpr ruins people's lives,
but then lives and breathes vander Pump Rules after still
continues to try and ruin people's lives. If you were genuine,
you would reach out on a personal level, but instead
you post it for attention and relevance. Also, this is
(12:02):
so obvious you had your publicist reach out to TMZ
for a pity party and attention.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Gross, where do you want to start.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Let's break it down line by line, shall we? Okay,
let's go for it since we're talking about it. So
this is basically in response to my post to Jack's
Taylor wishing him the best in his recovery. So she says,
the girl leads vander Pump Rules, ruins people's lives, but
(12:33):
then lives and breathes vander Pump Rules after still continues
to try to ruin people's lives. I would say to that,
maybe look at who you're dating right now, and if
it's quote unquote ruining people's lives, then there's two in
that to make that a reality, and you're dating the
(12:56):
other person. So I don't know why you're focusing on
me and I'm not continuing to try to ruin people's lives.
I really don't know how I have the power to
ruin other people's lives, especially now.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And you reach out to Jack's was sincere.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, and she's saying I should have reached out to
him on a personal level. I don't have a way
to do that. I don't have his phone number. He
has me blocked on Instagram, So unless I wanted to
buy a cameo from him and tell him through a
cameo message, there was no way for me to reach
out to Jack's on a personal level. And she's saying,
(13:36):
I post it for attention and relevance. Well, the truth
of the matter is, I don't know how else to
say this without coming across a certain way. But like,
I guess I am relevant, honestly, Like, I don't understand
how Victoria is telling me that I'm putting this out
here to be relevant.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Jack's checked himself into a mental health.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Facility, and so did I, So, like, I don't know
who else is more qualified to talk about this specific topic.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And you were on the show and your perspective is
what you know. I'm sorry, but hers isn't. I mean,
maybe she's trying to get on the show, but she
wasn't on the show, so not sure hers is relevant.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I mean, I'm not seeking relevance by any means. I
made a comment. I shared my perspective, and ultimately it
is well wishes to Jack's and his recovery. So the
people trying to spin it and say that I'm doing
something wrong in this specific situation, I don't know what
to say to those people.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's just not that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
But it's also very ironic because it's the same sort
of drum we've had to keep beating is somebody says
something and brings you in, you defend yourself, and then
they say you're your you can't let go of under
rules that you're.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Trying to hang into, right, It's that cast it.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well, yeah, in all fairness, like vander Pump Rules is
non it's not airing anymore. So like, yeah, I do
understand the perspective that me talking about vander Pump Rules
now is spending my time and energy on this subject.
But I think maybe to remind people that, like there
(15:20):
are reporters out there, like quote unquote reporters like the
nick Vials of the world and the up and atoms
of the world reporting on this stuff weekly, saying their
opinions and their two cents and this quote unquote factual evidence,
and need I remind you, like I am one degree
(15:42):
removed from the situation, and therefore I feel like my
insight and my perspective has some relevance. And so if
you're interested in knowing what that is, then that's that's
the purpose of me talking about it now.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And I don't remember did you did you tell me
to call TMZ?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Did TMC even report on this? I don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Did you call TMC?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Did you absolutely did it? I read it like everybody else.
We aren't We don't need to drum up publicity on
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
We are not.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So yeah, And that's the thing too, Like with that,
with the statement that I put out, it was very
much like matter of fact. It's like kind of stating
obvious and reminding people of the situation of what happened,
and not wishing ill will on anyone, right, I know.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
So let's just talk about the fact that.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The main reason that you're you're talking about this particular
thing at all is because.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
You lived it. You were the first in I think
most of reality television.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
To go through what you went through, you set a
precedent for what Jacks is going through right now and
anybody here afterwards. And let's also remind people the time
we reacted to somebody leaking the news, and that's why
we told them where they were. His people came out
and they are talking about where.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
He is, and I feel like, what do you mean believe?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So when you when you went into the facility, our
plan was to not let anybody know, and my plan
in particular was to give you time to get into
treatment and heal. The only reason that we put out
a statement saying where you were is because somebody from
the meadows leaked it, and then the whole cast went
into the fact that you're at a spot right and
(17:36):
took it lightly and made it all a pr thing
and minimized it. So we had to come out and
put out a statement. Now fast forward to hear where
his reps actually put out.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
The statement he was in treatment for no other reason, right.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
And and I'm not wishing ill on him, But then
everybody jumping on why are you talking about it? Your
entire platform This plan is so that you can talk
about what you went through. What you've learned from it
mental health, how to avoid the caveats. Your whole platform
is built on this experience because you were the one
of the first ones that actually went into a mental
(18:14):
health facility, and you were in there for three months.
So how does it make you feel to have all
these people still you know, here we are a year later,
and they're telling you you don't have a right to
speak on it and double standard.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Let's praise Jacks for taking care of his business.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
My whole platform right now is speaking from my experience,
and my mission is to keep this from happening. Like
the mental health aspect in the reality TV world is
really what I've been talking about for the past I
don't know, six months, And so when I am speaking
about the situation of Jack's checking himself into a mental
(18:54):
health facility, it's coming from a place of genuine concern
and I do have a unique perspective, and frankly, no
one else is more qualified to talk about this topic
than I am. I don't know why people would think
that I wouldn't talk about this. Like when I heard
the news, I got so fired up, Like I was like, Okay,
(19:18):
when are we podcasting next to you guys, because this
is important, and if you guys tuned into that podcast
like that, I feel like that was the most firing
and passionate I've ever recorded. It felt really good and
it felt like I had a lot to say because
this is what I've been talking about this whole time.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Totally, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Thank you so much for listening to Rachel Goes Rogue.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
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