August 31, 2024 • 21 mins
Katie thinks Rachel should keep quiet, Lala and Katie are officially donezo, and is TomTom getting a rebrand? Rachel and her publicist Juliette are back for another round discussing this week's hottest Bravo headlines.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Rachel Go's Rogue. Welcome back to another episode
of Rachel Goes Rogue with your host Rachel Savannah Levis.
There's so much going on in the Bravo sphere, and
I feel like we have a lot to talk about,
and so I'm being joined by Juliette today to get
(00:26):
into part two.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Go to Katie.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Okay, Katie kind of coming at you again and then
telling you to go away, like.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
How do you how do you feel about her and
her comments?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So what did she say?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I think it was because you had made the comment
that it's a bit surprising and disappointing that even though
you know you made a mistake, friends make mistakes in
the real world all the time, even horrible ones, and
their true friends kind of still come in and check
on them. And so you had made the comments you
were disappointed that nobody has ever has reached out to
(01:01):
you since like these supposed true friends have to date
not reached out to you or checked in on you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
And then you know, so she was like.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, if I was exactly saying that, because I kind
of don't expect anyone to check in on me, and
I don't have a desire to speak to anybody. But
when it happened, I did expect for my so called
friends to like at least hear me out and at
least like want to know my perspective and how we
got here. So that's what that comment was addressing. To
(01:34):
be clear, it actually wasn't addressing Katie at all. So
I'm not sure why she's feeling the need to address
that specifically because we were never friends.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, I have a theory as to why she brings
you into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Do you remember when right when you came out at
the facility and we were talking about how there was
supposed to be an embargo on the cast talking about
you at all or talking about anything, and the cast
never stopped talking about you, And I told production that
I basically dare them to keep you out of their mouth.
I think that at this point, if people drag you,
(02:12):
they drag you for clicks.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, look at Nick Fayel I study number one.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Because if you really want somebody to go away, if
she wants you to go away and she wants you
to disappear, right, that bringing you up. Yeah, but that's
not what happens.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, this is the thing about what we're doing right now.
This is the matrix that we're living in. When we
are commenting on each other, we are driving up views
for each other's platforms. So in knowing that every time
I say Lala's name, every time I say Sheena's name,
every time I say Katie's name, every time I say
(02:52):
Nick Vielle's name, I know that I am driving traffic
over to them, and they know by now every time
that they say my name, they're rallying up their viewers,
their fans, and they're driving traffic over to me. Now,
what the people are saying in the comments is influenced
(03:14):
by what we're talking about for each other. But it's
this weird matrix that like, yeah, if you know the
name of the game, you strategize by talking about each other,
and that that right there is the strategy and the
premise of a show like vander pump Roles.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, that's a very good point.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So as much as I'm like I want to get
out of this matrix, I also recognize that clearly this
is like some sort of game, and I have a
bigger message that I'm sharing with other people, and the
people that get something from listening to my podcast that
is the most rewarding thing for me.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, no, I think that may perfect sense. Okay, okay,
so a much lighter conversation.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Okay, Anne, So you know, she went to work for
Ariana's assistant and then she ended up working at the
sandwich shop, and now just recently she posted that her
hours were cut and said something to the effect of, well,
now my podcast better work because that's kind of where
I'm making my living, right.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Same girl, same yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So what do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Do you think it's weird that Anne is continuing to
work with arian and Katie to begin with?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Do I think that's weird? No? I shape that Anne
found herself in the vander pump Zegeist and it's worked
for her. And I think that she's been able to
like come across as this very like charming character that
is refreshing for a lot of viewers because you know,
she's not a conniving girl. She's just kind of there
(04:56):
and put in these awkward situations and is doing her
best to make it by. So, you know, I don't
really know her her work relationship with Arianna and with Katie.
It is wild to me that she's started working for
Arianna to begin with, after being years and years of
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Tom's personal assistant. So like that's a huge betrayal in itself,
but like, you know, like it makes sense. It's a
good opportunity that she took for herself. And I'm not
sure her involvement with something about her. I actually didn't
know that she was working for the Sandwich Shop at all,
(05:40):
so I'm not sure, but I mean, we signed an NDA.
It's a very funny podcast, and I think it also
gives a very refreshing take on the entertainment industry from
people who are personal assistants to those in the entertainment
world like Vile and Tom Sandoval. So and let's take
(06:04):
a shot for every time I say Nick Viel Yeah, okay,
drinking game, except for take a shot of water, because
you know that's not drinking well.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And they actually the criticism kind of went went towards
Katie and Ariana, so the fans were really supporting Anne.
But then, you know, something I was thinking about too
is that I'm not sure if everybody out there has
followed the Blake Lively stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But you know, this could be real drama, or this
could be drama to stir up viewership. For the podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Right, celaborate on that. So you believe that the Blake
Lively stuff is kind of like all to stir up
drama to get viewership for that movie.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I think a large part of it has to do
with that.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And you know, it's like in the rap game, the
rappers will have their beefs and some of them are
real and some of them are blown out of perspective
because it makes headlines. And so Blake has and her
director have gone, well, it's really Blake going after the director.
The directors seemingly taking the higher road. But that I'm
not knocking Blake Blake.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I don't know her.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I'm just saying the way that it's coming out in
the press is that this drama, I'm not sure that
it's sincere. The fans are upset because the original book
was about domestic violence and then it's appearing a little.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Bit less about that.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So in this situation, I look at it and I
was like, oh, you know, it could be that same
sort of a scenario. You know, is she really making
her living out of what she's making at the Sama
Chop and if not, or if so, is she now
using this drama to point to the podcast because the
podcast has a real shot being success for her.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, you know, it's it's kind of all in the
mix because she's also getting brand deals with partners and
she wasn't she in the big Razor commercial to something
like that. I think she was at the I'm not sure.
I think she was involved in some of the advertisement
gigs that Ariana was getting as well. So I think
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it's just mutually beneficial to create some sort of drama
maybe around something about her and podcasts well.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And that kind of that leads into the next question too.
So Ariana apparently seemed open to the idea of having
something about her spin off. A do you think that's
a possibility and B do you think that A that
could be why Ann's working there?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Okay, if that's the case, vander pump Roles is definitely
not coming back unless they're recasting with a whole new cast,
which is you know what I heard through the grapevine.
So yeah, it seems like everyone's probably pushing for a
spin off or to like transfer over to another spin
off show. Okay, the Valley. I think maybe that is
(08:56):
the end goal here.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It would make sense, right if Lala and she go
to the valley and Arianna gets her own show.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That all kind of is possibility.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And then arian and Katie would have their own thing, right, something.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
About her and Anne could possibly go there.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Which leads us to the next headline about Lala saying
that her and Katie's friendship is over, and that it
says Lala Kent claims Katie Maloney's friendship ran its course
after feud. So that's the headline, you know, and it's like, Okay,
(09:46):
My thoughts on it is that, like, I don't know,
there's no reason for Lala to be friends with Katie
at this point if they're not filming a show together.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's just like not beneficial. So I don't know why
she needs to announce it and like feel like, yeah,
that friendship ran its course and we're no longer friends.
That's like in classic La La fashion. She probably announced
it on an Amazon Live.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, she's very good at the shock jock and grabbing
the headlines, So kudos to her for that.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think she's pretty good at that. Actually, what do
you think of that?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I think a lot of it right now because just
the way that the cycles work with Bravo is that,
you know, it's kind of quiet, and then everybody jumps
in the publicity, So so yeah, things are stirring, right,
So if that's kind of helping set the stage for
letting people know that they're moving on the friendships have changed,
it makes sense why they're going to the valley because
(10:44):
this friendship's no longer and this friendship annow, you know,
I'm having baby number two. So I think it's kind
of framing. I think she's framing for announcements yet to come.
So yes, it makes sense that that relationship has probably
run its course.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, she said. There's quote here she says, there's not
a lot to talk about anymore, and we're just in
different stages in life.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
She concluded.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So, no matter why we fell off, I don't really
give a s What I do know is the time
we had together I really enjoyed and I wish them
all the best. Lala and Katie were in a good
place when filming kicked off on season eleven, or so
fans thought blah blah blah blah blah. So you know,
I don't know if this is just like a headline
making something out of nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think it's framing. I think it's setting up for
what's next. Yeah okay, so what's next? Do you think?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So if they're framing it, Lala's basically saying, oh, see this,
we don't have this friendship anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There's not a lot left.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I'm going over to the valley like so I think
she's setting it up for the viewers that that move
it's not just a one time filming scenario, like they're
moving over there. And then it also sets it up
if indeed there is a show that's just Ariana and Katie's,
you know, the story becomes the friendships couldn't be repaired.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
We've all outgrown.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Band, the punt rules, we're moving on to the next
career stage of our life. So I feel like they're
setting up for the what's next.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
For sure, and you know that NBC and Bravo has
the budget for that. They're like, yeah, let's all the spinoffs.
Yeah without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, there formerly seems to work.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh okay, I'm just getting news now that this was
from Lala's podcast. So Lala deliberately said this and announced
it on her podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I guess, yeah, but that's still to me, is framing right,
like she's still telling the fans this, we're moving on
to this next stage and giving them more info as
to why what comes.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Next makes sense.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, okay, okay, so let's go on.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I think this is our last headline shure Peter and
Lisa Vander Pump. So, Peter was in the headlines actually
a couple of times saying that they were rebranding Tom
Tom is Pump. And then Lisa came out and actually
set the record straight that I believe she said that
(13:16):
in the back they made that call Pump Gardens and
that he's absolutely wrong and he should stick to what
he knows. Wait, Lisa said this to Peter, Well, she
said it to the press addressing Peter.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Oh, that Peter's wrong and he should stick to what
he knows. Yeah, geez, it's hard should we.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Get First of all, do you know anything? Do you
have any insider info there?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
All I know is what we saw us where Lisa
decided one day to put the pump lettering Pump over
Tom Tom, and they had Tom Sandoval walk in and
see it for the first time and get his reaction.
That was also the scene where Lisa told Tom that
I had a phone call with her.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Why do you think Peter would say that publicly? I mean,
Peter came out twice.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Saying, you know that there was this rebrand from Tom
Tom to Pump. He's a real he's a real manager
at sir, He's a real employee of Lisas.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So why is he risking his job?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Is he risking his job? Why would he come out
and say something if he didn't know it? Why was
he so sure and confident enough to do it? But
yet she came out very strongly slamming that down.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So would you know, do you think that Why do
you think he's doing that? Because he's got a lot
to lose, He's got something at risk here.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't think he would like speak publicly about something
unless he had inside intel, And he's not the type
of person to just like throw stuff out there just
for a headline like this is Peter that we're talking about.
He's been, I'm sorry to say it, like a background
character in all the years that Fander Pump Rules has
(14:56):
been filming because he's he's not about the drama. So
I I think when Peter has something to say, maybe
listen the fact that Lisa is shutting it down immediately.
This isn't the first time that Lisa has done that.
And I had things at risk and I chose to
speak out, and she's flied about certain situations with me.
(15:19):
So you know, I don't see Lisa as an honest
figure at all. I've caught her and lies, and so
I'm curious to know what Peter has to say.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And once again, it can also be framing here she is,
she's launching new restaurants and new shows, and she doesn't
want the bad publicity on the existing so that could
be why she shedding.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So do you think, yeah, so Peter's not working with
Lisa in these headlines?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No, well, we don't think so.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I mean, you know, go another level and sure again,
you know you feed this and I'll feed this and
your job is safe.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
But I don't think so. I think that makes us
extra paranoid. But I feel like, I mean, it's possible, for.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Sure, but yeah, because why would he be so confident
to just say something like that too, But unless he knows.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So basically he's saying like Tom Tom is being rebranded
as Pump Correct, which you know, I haven't been to
Tom Tom. But I can't phone a friend, right now
who works at Tom Tom to your lifeline phone, a friend,
a friend, you can get him on the phone right now, I.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Swear, yeah, But I mean, but that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
There is the point is if it's happening and he
and there's indications and he goes out there and says it,
and then she shuts it down and then sort of
makes fun of him for saying it, right, so not meanly,
but like you know Lisa.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well yeah, I mean Lisa, she wants to come across
a certain way and she doesn't want the perspective that
she is rebranding Tom Tom as Pump. I guess like
that's not the vibe that she wants.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, because is that a failure?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, yeah, Tom Tom isn't a failure pump. I mean
they had to close down Pump and there's a whole
slew of drama with that whole closure and saying that
it was Lisa said that it was like a raise
in the rent and then the landowner said no, it wasn't.
But you know, like with the whole Tom Tom name,
(17:22):
I think that there is some risk to that and
you know, like it's not the best look right now
because it's controversial and people don't want to support Tom
and Tom, so it would make sense why she would
kind of put the Pump letters up and be like, Oh,
(17:43):
it's it's Tom Tom Impump. But need I remind you guys,
the Tom's only owned five percent of that restaurant.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So do you think that a VPR spinoff where they're
recasting the whole show?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Does that not jeopardize his job if it's at Sir, No,
it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh you know, they keep hying.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I would think that. Well, actually, they asked Peter to
come back and said it would be for zero pay basically,
and so he turned down the offer. So I don't know.
I don't know if there's like bridges burned there already
where he wouldn't film again. But I think that it's
(18:20):
only fair to compensate people that are working for you.
And Peter has been a staple character, even though he's
not the most dramatic, he is like a well known
character that people go to Sir to go meet because
he's the only one that actually works at Sir.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Still, then if they're recasting, isn't it make it smarter
to put a twenty something year old manager there too?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Like you know what I mean like, either he's the.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Wisdom that usher's in the new talent, right, or they
get the younger guy that fits into the vibe and
has an opportunity to mess up because that makes good
TV too.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Well. I mean, if that's the case, then they're casting
for a new manager because I'm pretty sure the two
managers that work at Sir are Diana and Peter. Okay,
So I don't know how that's going to work.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
All right, Well, I guess we're gonna stay tuned and
see what happens, because that one's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I mean, unless they're like recasting this show for the
Pump and Tom Tom restaurant and not Sir.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Good point, Well, that's just it.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
They could use the location, or it could be I
think the idea is more about the people, right, and
finding a good group of young people that can date
and drink and have drama and maybe go back.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
And forth between the restaurants.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Who knows, right, because it's a vehicle to publicize the restaurants.
But it's about the people's lives and relationships. So it
could be any of those things. But it'll be very
interesting to see because I think, you know, from the
business standpoint bar Nune, Lisa uses the television as a
promotional tool for her restaurants, right, so for him to
(20:08):
go out and say something is quite brave, right against
his boss. And then on the other hand, she doesn't
want bad publicity or bad looks because she's opening new
restaurants and putting on new shows.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So I think we're gonna have to wait and see
you on this one.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah. But then also like, no publicity is bad publicity
when you're talking about somebody like Lisa Vanderpump. So I
don't think she could be.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That mad at Peter No, And she didn't, like I said,
in Eliza way, she wasn't angry when she slammed it down.
She's like, uh right, thanks, thanks for the good idea, right,
you know the way she does right, Yeah, yeah, all right, cool. Well,
I think we covered a lot and that was very interesting.
Let's see what next week brings. Maybe they'll be a
(20:50):
little quite loll no headlines, let's hope.
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This is Rachel Go's Rogue. Welcome back to another episode
of Rachel Goes Rogue with your host Rachel Savannah Levis.
There's so much going on in the Bravo sphere, and
I feel like we have a lot to talk about,
and so I'm being joined by Juliette today to get
(00:26):
into part two.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Go to Katie.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Okay, Katie kind of coming at you again and then
telling you to go away, like.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
How do you how do you feel about her and
her comments?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So what did she say?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I think it was because you had made the comment
that it's a bit surprising and disappointing that even though
you know you made a mistake, friends make mistakes in
the real world all the time, even horrible ones, and
their true friends kind of still come in and check
on them. And so you had made the comments you
were disappointed that nobody has ever has reached out to
(01:01):
you since like these supposed true friends have to date
not reached out to you or checked in on you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
And then you know, so she was like.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, if I was exactly saying that, because I kind
of don't expect anyone to check in on me, and
I don't have a desire to speak to anybody. But
when it happened, I did expect for my so called
friends to like at least hear me out and at
least like want to know my perspective and how we
got here. So that's what that comment was addressing. To
(01:34):
be clear, it actually wasn't addressing Katie at all. So
I'm not sure why she's feeling the need to address
that specifically because we were never friends.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, I have a theory as to why she brings
you into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Do you remember when right when you came out at
the facility and we were talking about how there was
supposed to be an embargo on the cast talking about
you at all or talking about anything, and the cast
never stopped talking about you, And I told production that
I basically dare them to keep you out of their mouth.
I think that at this point, if people drag you,
(02:12):
they drag you for clicks.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, look at Nick Fayel I study number one.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Because if you really want somebody to go away, if
she wants you to go away and she wants you
to disappear, right, that bringing you up. Yeah, but that's
not what happens.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, this is the thing about what we're doing right now.
This is the matrix that we're living in. When we
are commenting on each other, we are driving up views
for each other's platforms. So in knowing that every time
I say Lala's name, every time I say Sheena's name,
every time I say Katie's name, every time I say
(02:52):
Nick Vielle's name, I know that I am driving traffic
over to them, and they know by now every time
that they say my name, they're rallying up their viewers,
their fans, and they're driving traffic over to me. Now,
what the people are saying in the comments is influenced
(03:14):
by what we're talking about for each other. But it's
this weird matrix that like, yeah, if you know the
name of the game, you strategize by talking about each other,
and that that right there is the strategy and the
premise of a show like vander pump Roles.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, that's a very good point.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So as much as I'm like I want to get
out of this matrix, I also recognize that clearly this
is like some sort of game, and I have a
bigger message that I'm sharing with other people, and the
people that get something from listening to my podcast that
is the most rewarding thing for me.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, no, I think that may perfect sense. Okay, okay,
so a much lighter conversation.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Okay, Anne, So you know, she went to work for
Ariana's assistant and then she ended up working at the
sandwich shop, and now just recently she posted that her
hours were cut and said something to the effect of, well,
now my podcast better work because that's kind of where
I'm making my living, right.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Same girl, same yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So what do you think about that?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Do you think it's weird that Anne is continuing to
work with arian and Katie to begin with?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Do I think that's weird? No? I shape that Anne
found herself in the vander pump Zegeist and it's worked
for her. And I think that she's been able to
like come across as this very like charming character that
is refreshing for a lot of viewers because you know,
she's not a conniving girl. She's just kind of there
(04:56):
and put in these awkward situations and is doing her
best to make it by. So, you know, I don't
really know her her work relationship with Arianna and with Katie.
It is wild to me that she's started working for
Arianna to begin with, after being years and years of
(05:18):
Tom's personal assistant. So like that's a huge betrayal in itself,
but like, you know, like it makes sense. It's a
good opportunity that she took for herself. And I'm not
sure her involvement with something about her. I actually didn't
know that she was working for the Sandwich Shop at all,
(05:40):
so I'm not sure, but I mean, we signed an NDA.
It's a very funny podcast, and I think it also
gives a very refreshing take on the entertainment industry from
people who are personal assistants to those in the entertainment
world like Vile and Tom Sandoval. So and let's take
(06:04):
a shot for every time I say Nick Viel Yeah, okay,
drinking game, except for take a shot of water, because
you know that's not drinking well.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And they actually the criticism kind of went went towards
Katie and Ariana, so the fans were really supporting Anne.
But then, you know, something I was thinking about too
is that I'm not sure if everybody out there has
followed the Blake Lively stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But you know, this could be real drama, or this
could be drama to stir up viewership. For the podcast.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Right, celaborate on that. So you believe that the Blake
Lively stuff is kind of like all to stir up
drama to get viewership for that movie.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I think a large part of it has to do
with that.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
And you know, it's like in the rap game, the
rappers will have their beefs and some of them are
real and some of them are blown out of perspective
because it makes headlines. And so Blake has and her
director have gone, well, it's really Blake going after the director.
The directors seemingly taking the higher road. But that I'm
not knocking Blake Blake.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I don't know her.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I'm just saying the way that it's coming out in
the press is that this drama, I'm not sure that
it's sincere. The fans are upset because the original book
was about domestic violence and then it's appearing a little.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Bit less about that.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
So in this situation, I look at it and I
was like, oh, you know, it could be that same
sort of a scenario. You know, is she really making
her living out of what she's making at the Sama
Chop and if not, or if so, is she now
using this drama to point to the podcast because the
podcast has a real shot being success for her.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Well, you know, it's it's kind of all in the
mix because she's also getting brand deals with partners and
she wasn't she in the big Razor commercial to something
like that. I think she was at the I'm not sure.
I think she was involved in some of the advertisement
gigs that Ariana was getting as well. So I think
(08:05):
it's just mutually beneficial to create some sort of drama
maybe around something about her and podcasts well.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And that kind of that leads into the next question too.
So Ariana apparently seemed open to the idea of having
something about her spin off. A do you think that's
a possibility and B do you think that A that
could be why Ann's working there?
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Okay, if that's the case, vander pump Roles is definitely
not coming back unless they're recasting with a whole new cast,
which is you know what I heard through the grapevine.
So yeah, it seems like everyone's probably pushing for a
spin off or to like transfer over to another spin
off show. Okay, the Valley. I think maybe that is
(08:56):
the end goal here.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It would make sense, right if Lala and she go
to the valley and Arianna gets her own show.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That all kind of is possibility.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And then arian and Katie would have their own thing, right, something.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
About her and Anne could possibly go there.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Which leads us to the next headline about Lala saying
that her and Katie's friendship is over, and that it
says Lala Kent claims Katie Maloney's friendship ran its course
after feud. So that's the headline, you know, and it's like, Okay,
(09:46):
My thoughts on it is that, like, I don't know,
there's no reason for Lala to be friends with Katie
at this point if they're not filming a show together.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's just like not beneficial. So I don't know why
she needs to announce it and like feel like, yeah,
that friendship ran its course and we're no longer friends.
That's like in classic La La fashion. She probably announced
it on an Amazon Live.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, she's very good at the shock jock and grabbing
the headlines, So kudos to her for that.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I think she's pretty good at that. Actually, what do
you think of that?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I think a lot of it right now because just
the way that the cycles work with Bravo is that,
you know, it's kind of quiet, and then everybody jumps
in the publicity, So so yeah, things are stirring, right,
So if that's kind of helping set the stage for
letting people know that they're moving on the friendships have changed,
it makes sense why they're going to the valley because
(10:44):
this friendship's no longer and this friendship annow, you know,
I'm having baby number two. So I think it's kind
of framing. I think she's framing for announcements yet to come.
So yes, it makes sense that that relationship has probably
run its course.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, she said. There's quote here she says, there's not
a lot to talk about anymore, and we're just in
different stages in life.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
She concluded.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So, no matter why we fell off, I don't really
give a s What I do know is the time
we had together I really enjoyed and I wish them
all the best. Lala and Katie were in a good
place when filming kicked off on season eleven, or so
fans thought blah blah blah blah blah. So you know,
I don't know if this is just like a headline
making something out of nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I think it's framing. I think it's setting up for
what's next. Yeah okay, so what's next? Do you think?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So if they're framing it, Lala's basically saying, oh, see this,
we don't have this friendship anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There's not a lot left.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I'm going over to the valley like so I think
she's setting it up for the viewers that that move
it's not just a one time filming scenario, like they're
moving over there. And then it also sets it up
if indeed there is a show that's just Ariana and Katie's,
you know, the story becomes the friendships couldn't be repaired.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
We've all outgrown.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Band, the punt rules, we're moving on to the next
career stage of our life. So I feel like they're
setting up for the what's next.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
For sure, and you know that NBC and Bravo has
the budget for that. They're like, yeah, let's all the spinoffs.
Yeah without a doubt.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, there formerly seems to work.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Oh okay, I'm just getting news now that this was
from Lala's podcast. So Lala deliberately said this and announced
it on her podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I guess, yeah, but that's still to me, is framing right,
like she's still telling the fans this, we're moving on
to this next stage and giving them more info as
to why what comes.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Next makes sense.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, okay, okay, so let's go on.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I think this is our last headline shure Peter and
Lisa Vander Pump. So, Peter was in the headlines actually
a couple of times saying that they were rebranding Tom
Tom is Pump. And then Lisa came out and actually
set the record straight that I believe she said that
(13:16):
in the back they made that call Pump Gardens and
that he's absolutely wrong and he should stick to what
he knows. Wait, Lisa said this to Peter, Well, she
said it to the press addressing Peter.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Oh, that Peter's wrong and he should stick to what
he knows. Yeah, geez, it's hard should we.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Get First of all, do you know anything? Do you
have any insider info there?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
All I know is what we saw us where Lisa
decided one day to put the pump lettering Pump over
Tom Tom, and they had Tom Sandoval walk in and
see it for the first time and get his reaction.
That was also the scene where Lisa told Tom that
I had a phone call with her.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Why do you think Peter would say that publicly? I mean,
Peter came out twice.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Saying, you know that there was this rebrand from Tom
Tom to Pump. He's a real he's a real manager
at sir, He's a real employee of Lisas.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So why is he risking his job?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Is he risking his job? Why would he come out
and say something if he didn't know it? Why was
he so sure and confident enough to do it? But
yet she came out very strongly slamming that down.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So would you know, do you think that Why do
you think he's doing that? Because he's got a lot
to lose, He's got something at risk here.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't think he would like speak publicly about something
unless he had inside intel, And he's not the type
of person to just like throw stuff out there just
for a headline like this is Peter that we're talking about.
He's been, I'm sorry to say it, like a background
character in all the years that Fander Pump Rules has
(14:56):
been filming because he's he's not about the drama. So
I I think when Peter has something to say, maybe
listen the fact that Lisa is shutting it down immediately.
This isn't the first time that Lisa has done that.
And I had things at risk and I chose to
speak out, and she's flied about certain situations with me.
(15:19):
So you know, I don't see Lisa as an honest
figure at all. I've caught her and lies, and so
I'm curious to know what Peter has to say.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And once again, it can also be framing here she is,
she's launching new restaurants and new shows, and she doesn't
want the bad publicity on the existing so that could
be why she shedding.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So do you think, yeah, so Peter's not working with
Lisa in these headlines?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No, well, we don't think so.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I mean, you know, go another level and sure again,
you know you feed this and I'll feed this and
your job is safe.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
But I don't think so. I think that makes us
extra paranoid. But I feel like, I mean, it's possible, for.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Sure, but yeah, because why would he be so confident
to just say something like that too, But unless he knows.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So basically he's saying like Tom Tom is being rebranded
as Pump Correct, which you know, I haven't been to
Tom Tom. But I can't phone a friend, right now
who works at Tom Tom to your lifeline phone, a friend,
a friend, you can get him on the phone right now, I.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Swear, yeah, But I mean, but that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
There is the point is if it's happening and he
and there's indications and he goes out there and says it,
and then she shuts it down and then sort of
makes fun of him for saying it, right, so not meanly,
but like you know Lisa.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well yeah, I mean Lisa, she wants to come across
a certain way and she doesn't want the perspective that
she is rebranding Tom Tom as Pump. I guess like
that's not the vibe that she wants.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, because is that a failure?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, yeah, Tom Tom isn't a failure pump. I mean
they had to close down Pump and there's a whole
slew of drama with that whole closure and saying that
it was Lisa said that it was like a raise
in the rent and then the landowner said no, it wasn't.
But you know, like with the whole Tom Tom name,
(17:22):
I think that there is some risk to that and
you know, like it's not the best look right now
because it's controversial and people don't want to support Tom
and Tom, so it would make sense why she would
kind of put the Pump letters up and be like, Oh,
(17:43):
it's it's Tom Tom Impump. But need I remind you guys,
the Tom's only owned five percent of that restaurant.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So do you think that a VPR spinoff where they're
recasting the whole show?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Does that not jeopardize his job if it's at Sir, No,
it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh you know, they keep hying.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I would think that. Well, actually, they asked Peter to
come back and said it would be for zero pay basically,
and so he turned down the offer. So I don't know.
I don't know if there's like bridges burned there already
where he wouldn't film again. But I think that it's
(18:20):
only fair to compensate people that are working for you.
And Peter has been a staple character, even though he's
not the most dramatic, he is like a well known
character that people go to Sir to go meet because
he's the only one that actually works at Sir.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Still, then if they're recasting, isn't it make it smarter
to put a twenty something year old manager there too?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Like you know what I mean like, either he's the.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Wisdom that usher's in the new talent, right, or they
get the younger guy that fits into the vibe and
has an opportunity to mess up because that makes good
TV too.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Well. I mean, if that's the case, then they're casting
for a new manager because I'm pretty sure the two
managers that work at Sir are Diana and Peter. Okay,
So I don't know how that's going to work.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
All right, Well, I guess we're gonna stay tuned and
see what happens, because that one's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I mean, unless they're like recasting this show for the
Pump and Tom Tom restaurant and not Sir.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Good point, Well, that's just it.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
They could use the location, or it could be I
think the idea is more about the people, right, and
finding a good group of young people that can date
and drink and have drama and maybe go back.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
And forth between the restaurants.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Who knows, right, because it's a vehicle to publicize the restaurants.
But it's about the people's lives and relationships. So it
could be any of those things. But it'll be very
interesting to see because I think, you know, from the
business standpoint bar Nune, Lisa uses the television as a
promotional tool for her restaurants, right, so for him to
(20:08):
go out and say something is quite brave, right against
his boss. And then on the other hand, she doesn't
want bad publicity or bad looks because she's opening new
restaurants and putting on new shows.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So I think we're gonna have to wait and see
you on this one.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah. But then also like, no publicity is bad publicity
when you're talking about somebody like Lisa Vanderpump. So I
don't think she could be.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
That mad at Peter No, And she didn't, like I said,
in Eliza way, she wasn't angry when she slammed it down.
She's like, uh right, thanks, thanks for the good idea, right,
you know the way she does right, Yeah, yeah, all right, cool. Well,
I think we covered a lot and that was very interesting.
Let's see what next week brings. Maybe they'll be a
(20:50):
little quite loll no headlines, let's hope.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
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