June 26, 2025 • 10 mins
Bethenny discusses how some celebrities are often granted iconic status and put on a pedestal only to have a dark side that looms behind them, later exposed. Who are these people, why do we do it and what does it ultimately cost us?
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Let's talk about who we build up and put on
pedestals and idolize, because this diddy thing, you know, this
is serious shit. This is a guy that people I
DA lize. And when I tell you, if you only
knew the celebrities that used to kiss his ass to
get into that white party and the rich people and
the Hampton's a flutter to go to that white party
(00:34):
that I have never been to, by the way, but
and would have gone because you know, I was a nobody.
But I will tell you that there's so much bullshit
in Hollywood. And someone on social media was talking about
how celebrity is canceled because people want real and people
are taking people to the bottom. And I think that
(00:54):
people have been burned so many times by these celebrities
and people that are I mean the fact that they
are these gods, these icons, these moguls that people worship.
I mean, you spend more time thinking about what you're
going to order for dinner than you do thinking about
who the people really are that you decide are gods
(01:16):
and that you blindly follow and buy and worship and
build up and make rich buy planes. It's us we
have the power. And I think that that's been what
people have been talking about, saying the celebrity is done
because these people have so much power, and we've been
burned so many times by thinking that there's something that
(01:38):
they're not and why would they why would we know?
We don't know them. Someone like Diddy has been completely idolized,
but we have do not put people up on pedestals
who we don't know, because then when they become something
that is disappointed, we're shocked. We don't know Diddy from
anybody from a hole in the wall. We don't know
(01:59):
him any more than somebody walking past us on the street.
But you know, we're listening to his songs, we're believing
his bullshit, and now you know this is some serious shit.
So for me, the cautionary tale is we cannot keep
living this life where because someone you know can carry
a tune or dresses really slick, or looks really hot,
(02:20):
or filters themselves, we can't idolize them and put them
in these positions. Because I'm sure many of you have
spent money on his music, his clothing, his bullshit, watched
his show, whatever it is. So I guess the cautionary
tale is on us. These are just human beings that
we don't fucking know. Everyone travels differently, and you need
(02:56):
a baseline for the people that you're traveling with, or
who might be booking travel for you, or who you
might be getting recommendations from, so you can get on
the same page. So for someone to say, oh my god,
that place is amazing. So many people have recommendations, but
so many people disagree and think other people are wrong
(03:20):
about restaurants, hotels, spas, rooms, vacation spots. So let's get
a baseline, because it just means if you're talking to
a tech travel agent, it'd be like going on a
dating app and and someone else thinks that someone with
dark hair and blue eyes who's five to nine is
(03:40):
for you, and you're like, wait, I like redheads that
have green hair, Like you have to have a baseline.
So for me, I was recently in Canada and I
first stayed at what I think is a five star
hotel and it was a little beat up, a little old.
Stars are given out for different reasons. So stars are
(04:01):
given out if a hotel has like a full service
spa and a certain number of restaurants and X, Y
and z, and it's the same thing with apartment buildings.
I'm different with apartment buildings too. Some apartment buildings have
dry cleaners and a full service doorman and a gym
and a kids club and a TV room. And I
don't want any of that stuff. And at a hotel,
(04:21):
I don't really need all that stuff. I don't need
a big hotel. I'm nine interested in transacting with people.
I don't need ninety two restaurants and the most giant spot. Ever,
here's what I like at a hotel. I like a
bathtub in my room. An outdoor moment would be fine.
Looking at something is fine, it would not trump a bathtub.
(04:42):
Like if you shut the windows and I never looked outside,
I'd sooner take a bathtub. I would like one separate space,
Like we're not just sleep, you know, because there are
five star hotels that you could go to and everyone
says it's the best place, and you have a bed
and the bathroom there's no shower, but you're like the
lobby amazing and it's hipping cool people go there, Like
I don't give a shit about that at all. I
(05:04):
give a shit about is there a microwave in there?
Is there a little fridge that's not jam packed with
like automatic magnetic fucking room service robots that the second
you look at something, you get charged. Like I'd like
my own refrigerator that's probably empty and I can put
my own things in there. A coffee maker is great,
it's a great thing. I'd like an ice machine, an
(05:27):
ice machine on my floor, like that's sort of looked
down upon. You know what I don't like being at
a six thousand dollars a night hotel which I've been
at and had to call and you're waiting twenty minutes
for ice, and that same ice comes in a normal
bucket and it's diluted and melted down in an hour
because you're in a hot climate. And then you got
to call again and wait another fifteen minutes either to
(05:48):
go get my own fucking ice or put it in
a nice little cooler and bring it to the room.
While we're complaining about stupid things that hotels do and
don't do. But I was just at a hotel in
Canada and everybody's like, oh my god, you're gonna hate
it there. Whatever, And here's what it was. It was,
like I said, probably like any other like Maria business
executive suites, whatever, it was clean, It had a little
(06:12):
you know, you turn the switch fireplace on, and had
a couch in the living room with a TV and
a bedroom. So let's say you're there for extended period
of time as I was, you don't you don't feel
like your whole life is in the bedroom. You go
in that other little living room and maybe watch TV
in there. It had a washer dryer, Like washer dryer
trumps many things like that means you go away, you
(06:33):
don't feel like a gross pig, like you didn't bring
enough underwear, or you just you just want to go
home with clean laundry. Like laundry is a big deal
in life. I just think it's freedom. Laundry is freedom
going away and being able to bring one set of
clothes that you fly on the plane there and then
wash it and bring it back. That means like freedom
in your suitcase too, So that to me was huge.
And then we had a full kitchen. You had a microwave.
(06:54):
You could get some microwave popcorn, you can make some
raw and you don't have to be a prisoner to
other people and what they they you know, calling downstairs
waiting like I don't like that. I want my own shit.
So I think that it's important to get a baseline. Okay,
do you want to be on a beach, you might
not be a beach person. I want to walk out
my room. I'd rather have a room that was a
(07:15):
little bit inferior, with less no view obviously, to not
have to go through a lobby and not have to
go on an elevator, to walk into my room on
the ground level and open the back door and walk
right onto the sand. I don't like a lot of transacting,
so to me that's killer, But other people same thing
in apartment buildings. I don't want to be on an
elevator and talk to Jane while she, you know, gets
(07:38):
her mail and is walking her dogs. I'd rather be
in a building. It's like a townhouse. We could just
walk right in, and I would. I'm not a person
that I like there to be like a little access
to a little town near the hotel, because I'm not
big on making a ton of plans, but like going
to walk into a town is like a little activity
or at night, deciding on the fly where you want
(07:59):
to have I don't like to feel like I'm on
an island, a prisoner of the hotel that's like a beautiful, private, gorgeous,
five star, romantic, amazing, well rated hotel that you have
to take golf carts everywhere on the property, and you
have to get a car twenty minutes to go into
a town to get a normal coffee that wasn't made
in your little like weird room coffee machine that doesn't
(08:24):
have milk, like and then you got to call down
and get the milk. Like. I like that. So everybody
has different preferences, is what I'm saying. I don't care
about the gym at a hotel, but I do care
if it's on the sand, because then I can take
a beach walk. And I don't mean just short sand
where you're just on the rocks and there's a little
sand and you get to swim in it. That's nice,
(08:44):
but I mean walkable sand beaches are like a mile
each way. These are things that people don't discuss enough.
Like there are hotels that are five star in Mexico.
They're gorgeous and they're on the beach and then there's
like tons of seaweed. It's not really it's beach and
it's beautiful, but like you're not really running in and
(09:05):
out swimming all day because you're going through like the
loch ness monster around your ankles every time you try
to take a swim. So I just think it's important
that you know what a hotel has. Some hotels have
a cute little like Barista coffee shop, or they have
a little deli we can go down and get something.
I like that, or like a little coffee cart, because
I don't like everything I do at a hotel to
(09:26):
be like a massive transaction. You're like you're ordering in
from a Michelin star restaurant to get a cup of coffee.
I just it's too fancy and too precious. So the
hotel that I was at recently in Canada was perfect,
and people were shocked because it was easy and it
had what I wanted, what I needed. So when you travel,
or when you move into a building or however you roll,
(09:49):
figure out exactly what you like and convey that because
someone else will tell you that this amazing five star
hotel that's twenty minutes from civilization, that has no little
caf place, that you have a shower and a small room,
that you have no microwave, that you have no refrigerator,
that that is where you should stay because it's rated
(10:11):
high and may not have the things that you want,
and you may be spending money on the things you're
not even going to use. I may be paying for
a gym that I'm not going to use. I don't
need a full service, so on. But some people want
to get a blow dry every day. Everybody has different needs.
What are yours
Let's talk about who we build up and put on
pedestals and idolize, because this diddy thing, you know, this
is serious shit. This is a guy that people I
DA lize. And when I tell you, if you only
knew the celebrities that used to kiss his ass to
get into that white party and the rich people and
the Hampton's a flutter to go to that white party
(00:34):
that I have never been to, by the way, but
and would have gone because you know, I was a nobody.
But I will tell you that there's so much bullshit
in Hollywood. And someone on social media was talking about
how celebrity is canceled because people want real and people
are taking people to the bottom. And I think that
(00:54):
people have been burned so many times by these celebrities
and people that are I mean the fact that they
are these gods, these icons, these moguls that people worship.
I mean, you spend more time thinking about what you're
going to order for dinner than you do thinking about
who the people really are that you decide are gods
(01:16):
and that you blindly follow and buy and worship and
build up and make rich buy planes. It's us we
have the power. And I think that that's been what
people have been talking about, saying the celebrity is done
because these people have so much power, and we've been
burned so many times by thinking that there's something that
(01:38):
they're not and why would they why would we know?
We don't know them. Someone like Diddy has been completely idolized,
but we have do not put people up on pedestals
who we don't know, because then when they become something
that is disappointed, we're shocked. We don't know Diddy from
anybody from a hole in the wall. We don't know
(01:59):
him any more than somebody walking past us on the street.
But you know, we're listening to his songs, we're believing
his bullshit, and now you know this is some serious shit.
So for me, the cautionary tale is we cannot keep
living this life where because someone you know can carry
a tune or dresses really slick, or looks really hot,
(02:20):
or filters themselves, we can't idolize them and put them
in these positions. Because I'm sure many of you have
spent money on his music, his clothing, his bullshit, watched
his show, whatever it is. So I guess the cautionary
tale is on us. These are just human beings that
we don't fucking know. Everyone travels differently, and you need
(02:56):
a baseline for the people that you're traveling with, or
who might be booking travel for you, or who you
might be getting recommendations from, so you can get on
the same page. So for someone to say, oh my god,
that place is amazing. So many people have recommendations, but
so many people disagree and think other people are wrong
(03:20):
about restaurants, hotels, spas, rooms, vacation spots. So let's get
a baseline, because it just means if you're talking to
a tech travel agent, it'd be like going on a
dating app and and someone else thinks that someone with
dark hair and blue eyes who's five to nine is
(03:40):
for you, and you're like, wait, I like redheads that
have green hair, Like you have to have a baseline.
So for me, I was recently in Canada and I
first stayed at what I think is a five star
hotel and it was a little beat up, a little old.
Stars are given out for different reasons. So stars are
(04:01):
given out if a hotel has like a full service
spa and a certain number of restaurants and X, Y
and z, and it's the same thing with apartment buildings.
I'm different with apartment buildings too. Some apartment buildings have
dry cleaners and a full service doorman and a gym
and a kids club and a TV room. And I
don't want any of that stuff. And at a hotel,
(04:21):
I don't really need all that stuff. I don't need
a big hotel. I'm nine interested in transacting with people.
I don't need ninety two restaurants and the most giant spot. Ever,
here's what I like at a hotel. I like a
bathtub in my room. An outdoor moment would be fine.
Looking at something is fine, it would not trump a bathtub.
(04:42):
Like if you shut the windows and I never looked outside,
I'd sooner take a bathtub. I would like one separate space,
Like we're not just sleep, you know, because there are
five star hotels that you could go to and everyone
says it's the best place, and you have a bed
and the bathroom there's no shower, but you're like the
lobby amazing and it's hipping cool people go there, Like
I don't give a shit about that at all. I
(05:04):
give a shit about is there a microwave in there?
Is there a little fridge that's not jam packed with
like automatic magnetic fucking room service robots that the second
you look at something, you get charged. Like I'd like
my own refrigerator that's probably empty and I can put
my own things in there. A coffee maker is great,
it's a great thing. I'd like an ice machine, an
(05:27):
ice machine on my floor, like that's sort of looked
down upon. You know what I don't like being at
a six thousand dollars a night hotel which I've been
at and had to call and you're waiting twenty minutes
for ice, and that same ice comes in a normal
bucket and it's diluted and melted down in an hour
because you're in a hot climate. And then you got
to call again and wait another fifteen minutes either to
(05:48):
go get my own fucking ice or put it in
a nice little cooler and bring it to the room.
While we're complaining about stupid things that hotels do and
don't do. But I was just at a hotel in
Canada and everybody's like, oh my god, you're gonna hate
it there. Whatever, And here's what it was. It was,
like I said, probably like any other like Maria business
executive suites, whatever, it was clean, It had a little
(06:12):
you know, you turn the switch fireplace on, and had
a couch in the living room with a TV and
a bedroom. So let's say you're there for extended period
of time as I was, you don't you don't feel
like your whole life is in the bedroom. You go
in that other little living room and maybe watch TV
in there. It had a washer dryer, Like washer dryer
trumps many things like that means you go away, you
(06:33):
don't feel like a gross pig, like you didn't bring
enough underwear, or you just you just want to go
home with clean laundry. Like laundry is a big deal
in life. I just think it's freedom. Laundry is freedom
going away and being able to bring one set of
clothes that you fly on the plane there and then
wash it and bring it back. That means like freedom
in your suitcase too, So that to me was huge.
And then we had a full kitchen. You had a microwave.
(06:54):
You could get some microwave popcorn, you can make some
raw and you don't have to be a prisoner to
other people and what they they you know, calling downstairs
waiting like I don't like that. I want my own shit.
So I think that it's important to get a baseline. Okay,
do you want to be on a beach, you might
not be a beach person. I want to walk out
my room. I'd rather have a room that was a
(07:15):
little bit inferior, with less no view obviously, to not
have to go through a lobby and not have to
go on an elevator, to walk into my room on
the ground level and open the back door and walk
right onto the sand. I don't like a lot of transacting,
so to me that's killer, But other people same thing
in apartment buildings. I don't want to be on an
elevator and talk to Jane while she, you know, gets
(07:38):
her mail and is walking her dogs. I'd rather be
in a building. It's like a townhouse. We could just
walk right in, and I would. I'm not a person
that I like there to be like a little access
to a little town near the hotel, because I'm not
big on making a ton of plans, but like going
to walk into a town is like a little activity
or at night, deciding on the fly where you want
(07:59):
to have I don't like to feel like I'm on
an island, a prisoner of the hotel that's like a beautiful, private, gorgeous,
five star, romantic, amazing, well rated hotel that you have
to take golf carts everywhere on the property, and you
have to get a car twenty minutes to go into
a town to get a normal coffee that wasn't made
in your little like weird room coffee machine that doesn't
(08:24):
have milk, like and then you got to call down
and get the milk. Like. I like that. So everybody
has different preferences, is what I'm saying. I don't care
about the gym at a hotel, but I do care
if it's on the sand, because then I can take
a beach walk. And I don't mean just short sand
where you're just on the rocks and there's a little
sand and you get to swim in it. That's nice,
(08:44):
but I mean walkable sand beaches are like a mile
each way. These are things that people don't discuss enough.
Like there are hotels that are five star in Mexico.
They're gorgeous and they're on the beach and then there's
like tons of seaweed. It's not really it's beach and
it's beautiful, but like you're not really running in and
(09:05):
out swimming all day because you're going through like the
loch ness monster around your ankles every time you try
to take a swim. So I just think it's important
that you know what a hotel has. Some hotels have
a cute little like Barista coffee shop, or they have
a little deli we can go down and get something.
I like that, or like a little coffee cart, because
I don't like everything I do at a hotel to
(09:26):
be like a massive transaction. You're like you're ordering in
from a Michelin star restaurant to get a cup of coffee.
I just it's too fancy and too precious. So the
hotel that I was at recently in Canada was perfect,
and people were shocked because it was easy and it
had what I wanted, what I needed. So when you travel,
or when you move into a building or however you roll,
(09:49):
figure out exactly what you like and convey that because
someone else will tell you that this amazing five star
hotel that's twenty minutes from civilization, that has no little
caf place, that you have a shower and a small room,
that you have no microwave, that you have no refrigerator,
that that is where you should stay because it's rated
(10:11):
high and may not have the things that you want,
and you may be spending money on the things you're
not even going to use. I may be paying for
a gym that I'm not going to use. I don't
need a full service, so on. But some people want
to get a blow dry every day. Everybody has different needs.
What are yours
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