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February 27, 2025 12 mins

We understand the WHY—but we question the how. PLUS: Megan Fox on Heartbreak

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh, I saw Megan Fox who looked so beautiful on
Drew Barrymore and I guess it was a poem she
wrote or something she wrote. But basically, I've been on
like relationship talk and self help talk, and like I'm
seeing a lot of different things about dating and just
like things are coming through. Maybe because I have a
dating podcast or I do dating rants, I don't know

(00:33):
a lot it's coming through. But there was something where
Drew kind of asked her what her motivation was in
this piece she had written, and she was basically saying,
and it sounded like she was talking about her acts.
It doesn't matter. I'm not going to sign anything to her.
That she fell in love with someone's unrealized potential. Meaning

(00:54):
often we fall in love with someone's potential, and it's
not that we just are fixers and we think someone
can change. It's just like you could see the island
and you can't imagine not being able to swim to it,
and some people can't swim to it. So she was
talking about someone that she had been in a relationship
with and it just broke her heart that she could
just see what they could be but it wasn't possible.

(01:20):
That is a heartbreak. That's heartbreaking, you know, And there
was nothing negative about the way she said it. It
was just very relatable. You could fall in love with
someone and it's not like I said, it's not just
that you're a fixer. You could just it's just you
see potential. You know how someone can be, and that's
kind of like chasing the dragon. You're chasing the dragon.

(01:41):
You've seen them be a certain way, maybe in a moment,
maybe in their best light, maybe in the beginning, maybe
in the honeymoon phase, maybe in the infatuation stage and
the attraction stage and the sexual pheromones oxytocin stage, and
then it just like dissolves, and it really is like
chasing the dragon because you just know you've seen it.
It's not and you just think that someone's potential is

(02:03):
to be like that all the time, and people just
don't have the bandwidth, you know. And then there's the
whole question. I talk to a lot of people on
this podcast about a lot of experts about if people
can change, and they definitely can, but it takes such
effort and wherewithal to do so. So I did a

(02:23):
take on Megan Markel today because Apparently she has a
brand called as Ever that she's partnered with Netflix on
It was called American Riviera Orchard, which I guess they
call Santa Barbara or Montecito the American Riviera. And I
learned from someone on social media that she wasn't able

(02:44):
to get the intellectual property or the trademark for that
because it's it's something that is synonymous with that area,
so you can't own that as a brand. But I
guess she didn't realize that, and that happens a lot.
By the way, you guys have to dot your eyes
and cross your t's. I literally was dealing with HBO
Max and the show The Big Shot. They we were

(03:06):
about to launch it and release I think the art
or the name, and they hadn't secured the IP, but
I had because I very much think in that way.
So anyway, Megan Markle hadn't secured the IP. But when
she told the audience why she changed the name to
as Ever, it wasn't that story. It was another story,

(03:26):
just saying it's more aligned with who she is, et cetera.
And she was in a more no makeup, fresh out
of bed aesthetic as a reaction to the public thinking
that her trailer was too glossy and too perfect Alah
Martha Stewart or real simple. And I think the issue
I said in a TikTok that the issue is I

(03:48):
think that they're having an identity crisis because Harry and
Meghan don't know in a post royal world who they're
supposed to be to everybody, and they keep listening to
the audience to try to decide who they are, when
I think that's a mistake because it to be who
you intrinsically are. The problem is that the they they
sort of chee a pet their identity in the sense

(04:09):
that now they're you know, they they're philanthropists and they're
doing They did the whole podium tour when they were
doing their Netflix show and the books, and it was
a lot of a lot of them and that didn't land.
People didn't like them just going around and accepting awards
at podiums. And then what happened during the California fires

(04:30):
and also at another incident, was they showed up somewhere
to do charity, but it had the energy of showing
up as royals as like part of a royal duty,
like just it just had the energy of like Princess
Diana coming and showing up, but they're no longer royal.
So it's just not landing because there is a there

(04:53):
is a suspension of reality and there's a word I'm
looking for, a term I'm looking for, But the audience
is not so like let's say it's like someone from
Jersey Shore or Housewives, or even someone on TikTok who's
like you've watched become very successful. It could be Alex Cooper,
could be Alex or Oh, it could be anyone. You're
kind of watched the trajectory michaelaw the beauty influencer. You

(05:16):
understand how it happened, like you've watched what's gone on
in their journey and so you know how they landed here,
and it feels authentic. I think the problem that people

(05:39):
have with the Meghan and Harry fame and its identity
is they haven't really watched any sort of trajectory, Like
you saw that Meghan was a successful actress on a show,
or an actress that was on a show on a
successful show, and I guess she had a website and

(06:00):
was like a cute young girl. Then you saw her
as a royal and that made sense. It was like
a girl that came from you know, that life and
was really a fairy princess, like whisked into this life
so amazing, so interesting, and that track. Then them leaving
was just jarring for everyone, and it was abrupt, and

(06:25):
it didn't it didn't necessarily flow, and so you would
think they left that because they wanted some privacy, and
they didn't. And if they had just gone away and
been private for a while and re emerged with something new,
it would have made sense. But what happened was they
left and did a lot of press about it, and
we're talking about it. So it was like you're staying
in the fame lane, but like not with any actual merit, respectfully,

(06:50):
Like they weren't doing anything in that time to connect
the audience with the level of fame. It was like
you are famous because you are a royal, but now
you're over here in a different category, and no one
understands or trusts you in that category, respectfully. When I
started relief work, it took me a really long time

(07:11):
to get trust in that category because that wasn't where
I came from. And even a Jim Carrey when I
used to go from comedy to a serious role. People
don't buy it. They don't see you there. You have
to walk with them and then trust that process. And
so I feel like it took me a lot of

(07:31):
begging and working and establishing trust slowly to enter into
the philanthropic space to be a philanthropist that's credible and
build that brand. And people just don't trust Megan Markel
in this brand because we haven't seen what it took
to get there. So one day people just see a

(07:52):
glossy kitchen that looks perfect as if she's put in
the blood, sweat and tears that a Martha Stewart has,
or even to this point, I guess at Gwyneth Paltrow,
but we haven't seen her do that. So people resent
the fact that it's called you were just in the
royal family, and you were you know, you had fairy
dust sprinkled all over you to be famous. So you
get to come in here and decide that you want

(08:13):
to be the glossed over Martha Stewart. So people weren't
having it, and then she pivoted because people weren't having
it to be I'm real and I'm just in the
backyard with my chickens making jam, and I decided as
ever is the brand name because that's more authentic to
me versus I didn't get the intel the ip like
it just never really fully tracks for many people because

(08:37):
people weren't involved in the process and they didn't see
how it went down, and so there's a suspension of
reality because people just don't buy it. And it's not
shade or hate, it's just people want to see you
get somewhere by putting one foot in front of the
other to arrive at that destination. And it's like Maggie Markle,

(08:57):
It's like Candyland. You basically got that card and went
from the very beginning to the end, and that's that
does happen. But the people resent not seeing steps, so
they don't buy her at the end of the game,
and that's she's gonna have to go back and stitch
that together. And I've gotten into trouble for saying things

(09:17):
about her at the wrong time. And I said crime
a River right before the Oprah interview when she talked
about racism and contemplating suicide, and it certainly didn't land
because it seemed like I was not compassionate about her
plight or I didn't believe her or anything like that.
I think I just was like wow, to be thrust

(09:40):
into the Royal family and to just like eject so
quickly in that way. It was never the action, it's
like anything else. It was never the content, It was
the delivery. It was never you can want to leave
the Royal family. It was but how. It was never
you can do philanthropy or go up on a podium,
or launch a Netflix show or a book, or tell

(10:01):
the story. But how. The how is a b The
how is as important in any story as the why.
And I think that we understand why Meghan and Harry
are making the choices they're making. I think that I've
always questioned the how. I don't I think the people
in twenty twenty five are ill advised because it's a
new world order. And I think I've said this so

(10:22):
many times. J Lo has been ill advised because she
has representation from a former era. They don't work in
twenty twenty five. Not everybody is a crossover artist, and
Blake Lively found out the hard way, and so did
Ryan Reynolds, that traditional celebrity doesn't land and play the
same way in twenty twenty five, and the same representatives

(10:43):
giving the same advice doesn't land. You have to understand
what goes on now. And Meghan and Harry, she's a
traditional actress that went into a traditional royal family and
they're trying to now make that institutional knowledge work in
a non traditional twenty twenty and it really doesn't land
because they don't because they're ill advised. That's the truth.

(11:06):
I would love to advise all of these people. And
the reason I know that I would be good at
it is because representatives from all the teams that I've mentioned,
not Megan's, but have reached out to me because they
are nervous about my take end or they know that

(11:29):
I'm spot on and have asked people in common with me,
like what does she think we should do? Or why
is she saying this? Like I know that I'm onto
something with the way that I view these people's choices
in this new world. Even trumpa Milania are acting very different.
Even Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, They're all acting different.

(11:51):
It's twenty twenty five. It's very different. We are in
the upside down to the coster, to the conster, to

(12:14):
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