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Speaker 1 (00:12):
There are so many things that I give a shit
about right now that do not matter, and that's when
it's the most fun.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I don't watch the news a ton, and I'm gonna
tell you why.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Watching the news is such bullshit, because depending upon what
channel you're on, it's so dramatic and so skewed towards
that network's political, totally biased opinion, that it's like all bullshit.
It's like you might as well watch Malcolm in the Middle.
(00:45):
Like things, the message gets lost. So the message gets
lost when Trump says he loves Sidney Sweeney if she's
a Republican, only like you could like someone who's a
Democrat or a public no matter what your political views are.
Like I go back to this all the time that like,
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if you wore a mask, it doesn't mean that you
were a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It means that you might have wanted to wear a mask.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
If you like Megan Markle, it doesn't mean that you
are a Democrat. If you appreciated the Sydney Sweeney ad,
it doesn't mean that you're a Republican.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Like how stupid are people?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's as stupid as when I talk about everyone's convinced
that you know fruit is bad, but like steak and
keto is good, Like how dumb is everyone? So the
Sydney Sweeney ad it was a little bit like the
Calvin Klein ad, which years ago was controversial and disruptive
and polarizing, which is what a good ad should be,
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Like a good ad should make you think or just
entertain you, or like a Geico lizard, you know, which
I'm actually going to work with them because something funny
happened and I had a lizard in my bathroom, and
actually I'm going to tell you about that too, because
I don't know if it's a lizard or Geico, a salamander, iguana.
There's so many different It's like greens.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Is it a lettuce? Is it a rugla? Is it romaine?
Is it butter lettuce?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I don't fucking know, but anyway, they're all green in
both scenarios. So Sidney Sweeney's in an American Eagle ad.
It's a pun on Jens, meaning it's about genes, like
genetic and she's like jeans are passed down from parents
to offspring, which every time she says that, I think
about like denim genes being passed down, and I always
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like no, they're not. But like, you know, you're wearing
your mother's jeans, not your mother's jeans. I don't know
why that's the first thing I think of, But all
of a sudden, TikTok goes crazy and it's about eugenics.
Never no one has ever used eugenics in a full
sentence or a conversation until Sidney Sweeney and American Eagle. So,
if nothing else, she has educated America and given them
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a new sat word. But she's in this ad and
it's provocative, and she's like natural and sensual, and she's
wearing jeans. She's talking about jeans, she's selling jeans. I
don't know what the hell she's talking about. I didn't
know that Scooby Doo was a bunch of stoners in
a van, and I didn't know that they were like
over my head jokes and bugs bunny.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I thought it was an animated rabbit.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And I thought Scooby Doo was like a dopey dog
and some shaggy haired people in a band.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I didn't know there was like undertones.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And so I don't know she was selling jeans for
American Eagle. But here's where it gets interesting. This is
what has happened. As I mentioned forty six times with
Haley Bieber and Selena.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Gomez and Lizzo and everyone.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
The more they get talked about, the more famous they get,
the more they get quote unquote canceled, the more they
get renewed because people were talking about something.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
They're all so enraged and so mad because there's.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Nothing else to worry about because there aren't wars and
crimes and starving children. So they're so enraged and worried
because God, you know about this ad that has like
you have to be fucking no Morse code and have
gone to like Mit and have like the emotional intellect
of Einstein and like Freud, that like they're so concerned
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about this, like outrage about this eugenics and like I
don't even know what I was talking about, but that
like they're making people watch the ad. So like, if
you were really so outraged, then you would do something
about it in some sort of way lobby or talk
to the FCC.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Or something, but you.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Certainly wouldn't be like getting views on it and making
more people go watch it. Blentci Aga is doing just
fine since everyone was so outraged on the internet, so
people are going crazy and everyone's talking about it, and
they're making so much money and their stock is through
the fucking roof, so like it went through the roof.
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So I don't know how you actually achieve a boycott
or taking a brand down these days, but this because
it was like such a do about nothing that people
just bought more geens because they were They became so
enraged that people were enraged, so like you can't call
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wolf unless there's really a wolf. People who just didn't
understand the outrage course corrected and bought all these jeans,
soared the stocks. They were like, no, now we're gonna
fucking punish you, and dunkin Donuts jumped on, so now
dunkin Donuts gets to win. And now people are saying
it's because people are allowed to be hot, because the
dunkin Donuts guy is hot and he's making fun of
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it because Sidney Sweeney's hot. And I don't even think
it's about hot or you're not allowed to be hot.
I think it's just about selling jeans, doing something disruptive
to sell something like it's it's like it's as old
as time. It has to land, and it landed, and
then I saw this guy that I actually enjoy.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
On social media.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
He's calling it like the downfall of Sidney Sweeney, and
I'm like, that's an example of people inside TikTok that
like really think that everything that's going on inside social
media is going on outside social media, and there is
a big, big, whole wide world outside social media, and
they don't realize.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Like it happened to me once.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I thought shit was hitting sideways and I didn't realize
no one really cared. I was trying to sell a
book and I was like, wait, but do they know?
And my person that works with me, my agent, was like, no,
they don't know. Why they don't care about that, And
I was like, oh, because I was up my own
ass thinking that everything that's going on inside social media
everybody outside thinks is real. So this guy in his
own world was writing down it's a downfall, it's a
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downfall of Sidney Sweeney. Like what are you talking about.
Sidney Sweeney's been on like the hottest shows. She was
said to be maybe flirting with Tom Brady, but I'd
like to even be mentioned in the same sentence as
Tom Brady. Okay that she was at the Jeff Bezos,
Laurence Sancho's wedding. Okay, everyone was mocking that wedding, but
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everyone was watching, and it just like only drives attention
to the people that you want to torture, and then
it could even backfire. So disruption is king people who
hate watched Howard Stern watched more than the people who
loved him.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
How insane is that people who hate watch watch more
than the people who love. So just know that, just
park that for whatever that is.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It doesn't mean it's it's a backdown on every single cause,
But like you have to just be educated and know
that if you're trolling something and it's not landing, you're
making the money and they're lapping all their way to
the bank. And it's fascinating because that's what marketing is.
So haters are lucrative. Dare I say I like Sidney
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Sweeney more since that ad I think.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
About her more?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And also anyone saying the downfall of Sidney Sweeney doesn't
know how America works.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Chase the Money.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I use the same examples over and over to keep
explaining constants that are different.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Lauren Sanchez Vogue. Vogue isn't stupid, Chase the Money.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Kim Kardashian met Gala and first Vogue cover Chase the Money.
She has an audience. Sydney Sweeney moved a market. The
President and Vice President of the United States of America,
whether you like them or not, are talking about Sydney
Sweeney and she moved a stock.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, actually it's not true. I've moved a stock of cottage.
She is not even a joke. I've moved the stock
of cottage.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
She's of.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Tomatoes, of turkey, and so she's moved a stock. Period
story and film at eleven Cry in your corn Flakes.
(09:04):
So I want you to think about funk shwey in
your house, when you're buying a house, when you're renting
a house, and how you can change your own environment
with regards to fun shwe because I think it's really important.
So I'm in a new house and I'm noticing that
I am living, cooking, breathing, sleeping, bathing, operating very differently
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in my new house because of the way that the
funk shwe is here. So I prance and leap into
my podcast room in a way that's different in my
old house, where it's not because it was in the
basement because I don't mind the basement. I have no
problem with the basement. However, the house was set up.
My old house was like very choppy and all these
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different separated rooms that it felt like you were like
going far and away somewhere to go do the podcast,
and it felt like I just a drag or like
the living room in my old house was in a
separate room. It wasn't like open to everything, but you
could understand where it was. And it made me not
want to ever go in that living room. So I
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only was ever watching TV in my bedroom. And it
was like user habits were just different, and the littlest
thing you have to think about, like what you're craving.
For example, I'm in a house right now, and I
walk out this sliding door and there's a little dining table.
It's in Florida, and there are these chairs around the
dining table. But it's not conducive to me like sitting
and lounging right there because it's dining chairs. And even
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though the che's lounge is not far from there, it's
still far away. And I want to feel like I
just open that door and just sit right out that door.
Drink a coffee and lounge, and there's a lot to
the way things are set up, and don't just accept
things the way that they are.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
You could change things in an instant.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I always talk about changing linens, changing your towels, like
it could be the smallest thing. It could be decluttering.
But functui is real. So think about how you feel
every day and like what your inclination is and what
you're not getting, Like you're like, wait, I don't love
going in that room, or for some reason, I never
do this. Like I had an area of my house
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in Connecticut that I never went in. I never used
it once, not one time. It was the fantasy of
this party that I was going to have in there
and entertain in there, and it never once even happened.
At an outdoor kitchen, in my mind, I was going
to use an outdoor dishwasher, so I spent all this
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extra money, all these bells and whistles. Not once did
I use the dishwasher in the outdoor kitchen. I felt
like the dishes were going to be in some vortex
out there, and it was just stupid.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It was like a redundant dishwasher.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
But in my mind, I was living out there, cooking
out there, having all these meals out there, all these
It's like, make your house.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
How you actually live.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
If you're not dining that much, then don't have a
dining table, make it really interesting on a kitchen island,
or rent a dining table once a year, like whatever
you're doing, like make your house for how you actually live.
It's all I can say. So someone that works in
me is talking about wedding gifts. She's a certain age.
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When she got married, she was much younger, and so
there was a certain amount that they gave. Now, but
now she's giving out gifts, and she has to give
out such more expensive gifts because she's at a different
level or and they're older and the expectation is different.
Which led me to the fact that giving wedding gifts
is like that bottle of wine that someone brings to
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your house that you're eventually gonna end up bringing back
to their house. Like people have a wedding gift list,
not the registry, but people keep a list of what
people gave them, Yes, the registry, but also the money.
So you give the money and then now it's your
wedding and they give the money back. Or you give
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them money for a kid, but now you're an only child,
you have one child, you've an only child. She has
a friend who has about Mitzvah. You give whatever the
number is, one hundred and eighteen, oh is a Jewish number,
hundred and eight dollars, whatever you give?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Okay, you give about Mitzvah.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Present you have five children nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.
Just having about Mitzvah, that person that you gave that
to is now going to think that they have to
give you back the same gift for all five of
your kids that are going to have about Mitzvah or
sweet sixteen. So like, there have to be some rules
and places for these people that travel to weddings, stay
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at weddings, destination weddings, spend money to get there, Like
there has to be some rule that like everybody sticks
to or each it should be as important as registering
you register at Bloomingdale's. You like, come up with something
with all the friends about what's appropriate for gifts, because
it could be it's a free for all and then
it becomes their turn and then their expectations because you're
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basically giving back the money they just gave you.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Ba humbug.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I think that Christmas cards, physical paper, sent envelope, tree
wasting Christmas cards should be canceled.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I don't want them. I don't care. I know what
year it is, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But a my collecting your families because it's just like
it's literally as bad as I feel about. When a
brand sends me nineteen shades a foundation, I get the
one I like if that and I have to give
away the eighteen. I have to spend money to ship
it to Poshmark, which goes to charity.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I have to give it away.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I have to find a place, find a bathroom, hoard it,
fucking throw it in the street.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's annoying.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So the Christmas card it goes look at oh Jane
and John yay garbage. What am I doing with it?
I'm making a Christmas card. Tree at it like I
don't want it. So send it digitally thank you, and
I won't even open it there. But I don't want it,
and no one wants it. Nobody wants it. Nobody wants it.
I promise you parents want it. Send them a photo,
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Oh my God, and your work nobody wants like Jones
Electric the picture of your entire electric company that you
send to them from your whole team, and nobody wants that.
Nobody wants that. What people want maybe a message. Use
it to your advantage. Sorry, sorry, exploit it. Joanes Electric
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giving you twenty percent off during the holiday season. Happy holidays.
That's all they want. And they don't even want that.
They really don't, They really don't. You're Jones Electric. Give
them a couple of extra light bulbs that they would
have to go to the store to get basic standard
light bulbs.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
May your holiday be filled with light.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Come up with something interesting, but just don't send a
picture of the whole family alone without any other thing, like,
do something creative. Jump up the page, people, it's twenty
twenty five. Sydney Sweeney is selling jeans by being an
alleged Nazi. Okay, we have to step up the game.
You want to send a Christmas card, you better fuck it.
Think of what you're gonna do with it. It better
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be laminated and bacharack crystal. Your picture's on one side
and the other side is an ornament I can use
for the rest of my life because it is savage,
it is relentless, and you better fucking step up your game,
because sending part of a tree with your picture on
it ain't gonna cut it. It's going right in the
garbage to be recycled into another version of a tree.
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I catch Chloe Kardashian on her podcast talking about Tristan
and I guess his child from another marriage and his mom.
I like Chloe Kardashian from what I see. I met
her once. She was very nice, but like, I like her.
I know she's really super wealthy and successful.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I want her pop I like her popcorn.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I like her, and I like her on this podcast,
like also like taking it seriously.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
She seems like she's prepared. She sits down.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You know me, I come down here looking like I
was hit by an eighteen wheeler three times, peeled off
the side of like the tire, and like I rant
and spew what I care about, and like like I
don't love guests, and like reading all this stuff and
like preparing in that way. I like, just like riffing.
It's just what I like. This is who I am. Everywhere.
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I'm not great at like being corralled, shackled controlled. It's
just not my personality and it's not no one's ever
gonna accuse me of being lazy.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It's not that it's just not my style.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I don't like it, but I have a respect for
like the polished podcast, and I like the way Chloe
sits down. She looks good, the lighting's good, she's well dressed,
her hair is perfect. She's talking about an important topic.
She's going deep. She's not talking about superficial things. The
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guests aren't just like vapid celebrities she just picked off
her celebrity Christmas list tree, Like they're interesting conversation. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I don't even listen to.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Podcasts, so it's not like I'm actually listening, but I
watch her clips and like, I like it, like thumbs up,
I'm here for it, Like keep going.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I like it. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And I like whatever her philosophy is and what she's
discussing about her ex and his kid. And you can
meet people through different ways. You're not gonna just She's saying,
you're not gonna just drop someone who is in your
life because he's on in your life.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And I fully get that too.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I have exes that's still have a relationship with my child,
Like I want that they had a real relationship. You
don't just like throw the baby out the bathwater. So
I like it. I like her, That's just my gut instinct.
There's a new Pope. The headline is that he pulled
a bunch of people together, like this was a social
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media event with thousands of people coming to see the
new Pope. Now, regardless of what your religious beliefs are,
anyone who can bring people together to believe in something,
to unite, to have faith, to connect, to continue tradition,
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I love that. I love that in really any religion.
So it's a surprising thing coming for me. Not because
I have a Jewish last name, because I celebrate Christmas
and went to Catholic school, so that's not the relevant point.
But I'm not a religious person, but like I do
understand where religion serves a purpose in bringing people together
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in faith, in morals, in quote unquote being a good Christian,
in what it's supposed to represent, and it falls short
all the time, But I like the meaning behind it,
and I like the unification and something sparking uniting a
group of people.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I'm here, I'm team Pope, is what I'm saying, And
I like that.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's like modern and that there were young people talking
about they brought him his favorite pizza and posting on
social media and they were excited to see people their age.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I like it. I liked it. It moved me. I
wrote it down.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
The greatest couple in decades is Liam Neeson and Pam Anderson.
And I don't know what's going on with them, but
there's a calm, gentle, content, settled partnership vibe that I
really like, and I really I'm going to mandate that
they stay together and that this perpetuates, and that this
they don't leave us hanging like it has to work,
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like I would cancel Christmas if George Clooney and a
Moll did not last, like I would not. I would
not survive it. I wouldn't make it. I would be
on bedrest like I wouldn't. I wouldn't survive. And I'm
not that invested yet in Pam and Liam, and I
won't be. It's not the same, but they to last
just for the people. They just need to last.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
We need it. We need it.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And speaking of which, with dating, I've gotten to a
point now where dating to me is like I will
dip my toe in for one second and run away
like a little top. You know how a baby like
runs up to the ocean and gets scared by it,
like puts their toe and then runs the other way
as the water like comes closer, but then the water
goes out, the baby runs in and then runs away.
That's me with dating, Like I used to be an
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expert at this. I used to be an expert at dating.
Now it's like I've never done it before. I don't
want to. Someone starts texting me and they creep me out,
They cringe me out, and I want to get the
fuck out of there immediately.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
It is wild.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It is like I've had food poisoning, and even though
I intellectually know that the odds of getting food poisoning
from that again will not happen, but I don't want
to go back there.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I don't want to go to the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I want to talk about it, think about it, smell it,
hear of it, and I don't want to do it.
So it's getting very interesting. I can't imagine how warm
that pool would, how warm and perfect conditions Osha would
have
Speaker 2 (22:00):
To be for me to want to get in