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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I don't know Paige J'sorbo or the guy Craig that
she dated or was engaged to maybe or maybe I
made that up, or they were getting engaged.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
They were this darling, cute little couple at the top
of a wedding cake from the show's summer house that
I only see through social media clips. But I guess
she was dating someone. There was maybe overlap, not overlap,
I don't care. They're young and beautiful and single and
go with God. And now I guess he's on Ria.
I could talk about Riyah forever, we could do, we
(00:39):
could do such a deep dive on Rya. But now
I guess he's single, as he should, and it seems
like he's being a little more understated about discussing everything.
And people are talking about her and who she's dating.
So she's been trying to kill every bug in Manhattan
and respond to it, which is how it's more clickbait
and everyone's talking about it. But the part that jumps
off the page about it to me is unfollowing each
(01:01):
other on social media and unfollowing each other's friends, and like,
remember it would be like Kylie and this one onfollowed Tristan,
this one follows that one, this one un followed this one.
Craig un follows Page, Craig on follows the two other
people from the show talking about Page or aren't talking
about him or taking sides, or Page unfollows this one. Like,
I just think the celebrities unfollowing celebrities is ridiculous. Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
One time.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Jeff Lewis asked me on Andy Cohen's show, made a
big deal about me unfollowing Kyle because one of the
papers had made a big deal about me unfollowing Kyle.
Now I believe I follow Kyle now on Instagram. Okay,
I don't know if I do, and I don't know
who else I follow, And this is gonna sound crazy.
I don't live on Instagram a lot, like you guys know,
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if I'm on TikTok I follow you, or I would know,
but I wouldn't know if you unfollowed me. It's not
the same language on TikTok as, Instagram or other places,
but on Instagram that's like a calling card that it
shouldn't be. Why I don't look through enough. I don't
remember the last time I saw a Kyle post and
I don't look at people's stories and I don't know why,
but Kyle and I are actually friendly. I'm gonna go
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to Aspen next week. I'm going to text her, so
if I want to see Kyle and her daughters I
could see them at the at the cheese shop and Aspen.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's called market or something meet market and Aspen. So like,
people place too much value on this. And the reason
I say this is that but literally, like my best
friend Sarah is on Instagram, I never see her post.
Somebody other friend, my friend Amy Callico, she's on Instagram,
I never see her post. I think you have to
like be on there enough scrolling through to see everybody's posts.
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And I think I follow a decent amount of people.
It's completely arbitrary. I could follow some weirdo who talks
about mushrooms and then like not follow my best friend
because whoever I'm good friends with? Ah Tim Dillon just
called We're close. I don't remember the last time I
saw a post of his. So one post Who's talking
about my relief work? Which maybe came up because you
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talking about my relief work. But other than that, I
have no fucking idea so it's like not that relevant.
And I bring this up because like Craig following page,
he doesn't him unfollowing her becomes this big like press thing,
like he unvolwed her, she unfollowed him, they unfollowed them.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Just keep following her, O cares. Just don't watch it,
just mute it.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You don't have to look at it. But like, you
don't need everyone to talk about your business. There are
people that I've broken up with or dating. I date people,
break up with them, I follow them. I'm not gonna
unfollow it doesn't matter. What does it fucking matter If
I don't want to see their content, I don't have
to see their content. And also some people don't post
as much and I wouldn't see it anyway, So like
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it could be a control tactic where you just don't
want it presented to you. But then I guess you
could just mute them or quiet it down.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I just I don't think people need to worry about
who they're following and unfollowing. It doesn't mean that much.
You shouldn't play so much weight on it. Just ignore it.
If the goal is that you don't want to see
their content, just don't see their content, and I don't
know if you block someone, if the people would know
that you didn't follow them, I would imagine. I just
think it's just a very stupid, juvenile, third grade practice.
(04:06):
It doesn't fucking matter. So, by the way, whether I'm
following Kyle or following my best friend Sarah not following them,
whether I'm following someone I'm dating or sleeping with or
in a relationship with, it doesn't mean anything. Because if
I do it and I know you're going to report
on it, I could manipulate the media.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I could follow.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Uh, I don't fucking know some famous actor, so you
think I'm with them, Like, I could do anything I want.
It's just it doesn't have to mean anything. It doesn't
have to mean anything. I could be in love with someone,
then I could hate someone. It doesn't mean I'm gonna
unfollow them because I don't want you all to react
to me on following them, So I'm just not gonna
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unfollow them. I have noticed this dynamic in people that
makes me crazy, and I call the room of vacuum.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I love. I love the concept of the room of vacuum.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I love the room of vacuum, but I like it
in a device for your home, not in a person.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And what do I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And you could be this person, so please look inside
if you're this person, I'm not this person.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
But there are a lot of room of vacuums. Okay,
what do I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean people that don't really express themselves or express
remorse or urgency. It happens a lot in business and
in the workplace, like someone you basically said say to someone, Okay,
we have to do this, and overall, I need you
to be more responsive or I need you to help
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me with this, or I'm not being specific because it
could be anything. And a person feels a little bit
like a robot, like they kind of respond to what
you're saying exactly what you're saying. They hit the wall,
they go the other direction, and then they go in
that direction. But you like, in order to be a
fully functioning business person, you need to be able to
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look at the temperature of the room, look at the highway,
look at the elements, look at what's going on. Meaning
if you're in Aspen and your hair is particularly dry
and it's flat, you're gonna adjust. If you're in Miami
and it's frizzy. You're going to adjust. If you're in
business and something happens just because someone told you to
do something one way, you have to be able to
understand that elements can change that. So there have been
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things in my business where I've said, all right, we
need to be doing this because this is what's going
on in society, and then someone goes in that one
direction and starts doing that one thing, but then one
other element pops up and you're like, wait, why'd you
do that? They're like, well, you told me that we
need to do this. I'm like, yes, I know, I
know I did, but like we didn't expect this to happen.
And it's the room of vacuum. And people that I
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work with, some of them know when I'm talking about
I'm like, because he's a room of vacuum. A room
of vacuum is someone that, like you've told one thing,
they don't have the ability. They have blinders on. They're
going in the direction you sent them in, but they don't.
It's like Forrest Gump, like they just walk out the
door one time and just keep running, which worked out
a farst Gump, but it was just like he just
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ran until he couldn't run anymore, and like then when
he hit the end of the country, he's stuffed.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's not what you want.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
In a creative or intelligent or successful business person. Someone
has to be able to get in the car, but
like get out if something's going wrong, stop and get
gas if they hit the wall. Like you don't want
to be a room a vacuum, meaning you have to
not just take direction and only listen to the thing
that someone just said. It could be anything. It could
be a partner, It could be a relationship partner. It
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could be someone that a nanny, It could be a babysitter,
it could be an assistant, it could be a business partner,
an accountant. Like you could literally meet someone in a
relationship and say like, well, right, because I want you know,
I really want you to hear me or listen to me,
or do this thing. I don't know how to explain it.
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And then like you switch something and you're like, wait,
why would you just do that? Like there was just
an accident, why why didn't you? Why didn't you It
could be anything pick up the keys as you left
it because you told me never to pick.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Up the keys. I'm like, right, but today there was
a fire.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You need to pick up the key, like it's the
most arbitrary thing, and it doesn't matter what the thing is.
But just know that it's not great to be a
room of vacuum. And it's not great to have people
that work with you or for you that are a
room of vacuums, because you want them to be able
to think for themselves. Otherwise they're just these robots that
not until they hit the wall do they go in
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a different direction. I don't know if that makes any
sense to you, but like I'm trying to think of
real world examples and I will I'll come up with
other with room vacuum examples. It's just like if you
tell your kids something about something they have to do
every day to and from school, and then one day
there's a fire at school, or the bus stops down,
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or something bad happens or there's an emergency and they're like, wait,
but you told me, You're like right, I know I did,
but today it was but except for this because something
crazy happened. So anyway, that's the room of vacuum. So
(09:18):
last night I ended up on Channel two thousand, seven
hundred and eighty six on my television in the city
because that's where my television turned on. And I was like,
what the fuck are there a million channels? Are there
infinite channels? How is there? How is there? Like what
happened to us? I remembered? I feel like I remember
horse drawn buggies, like I remember very clearly, two four seven,
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Later came five, eleven, nine, and thirteen, like it really
was two far Like these were channels, and yes there
was no DVR, and yes it was this crazy there
was no satellite TV and all the things that happened later.
But like, I guess it should be in definite because
there can be infinite content. But I bring this up
to you because I was on twenty seven hundred and
eighty six yesterday and I landed on a show called
(10:09):
Forged in Fire. Okay, Saturday Night Live could not make
the show. Now, the show wasn't even a bad show, Like,
and I'm giving the flowers to the people on the
show because and I can't imagine what they're getting paid,
because I know people on normal reality TV get paid
and it's not a lot when they start out, So
what are the people on Forged in Fire getting paid?
These are like welders kind of they they're holding they're
(10:30):
yielding swords, but inside.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
A two studio. Okay, Like I remember.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
When it was like deadliest Catch was the thing, and
like and people was like, wait, now it's deadliest catch,
and now it's about fish, and now it's about organizing,
and now it's about decorating, and now it's about tiny homes,
and now it's about tiny tiny people and tiny people
and tiny homes and tiny people with other times like
everything giant people, medium sized people, like overweight people, people
that pick their couch, people that are hoarders, like people
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that have managed like infestation. I've seen shows about like
it's gone crazy. But on two thousand, seven hundred and
eighty six, it's a show called Forged in Fire and
there's one girl because there aren't that many girls probably
that are welders, and you know we have to have
you know, e DEI in Welding on television. But like
there are these different people holding swords. They're holding like
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machetes and they evil and we're gonna meet back at
the anvil. And I guess the anvil is the creative
way that these people in some boardroom decided to get
back to the boardroom or the conference table or whatever,
like The Apprentice years ago when I was on it started,
But there are these people in these like aprons that
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look like they're blacksmiths, and I don't know how many
other things they weld if they only work in like
sharp instruments. I was watching it all of three minutes,
but I guess people are competing and how they like
sharpen their swords and machetes. I didn't get to find
out where they're using these swords and machetes, Like are
they in the jungle. They looked like civilians that had
like prescription readers on, so I don't think they're actually
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like hunting buffalo. I don't know what's going on, but
they're all they go back to the anvil, and then
there's the host who's got the long hair and like
is he a welder too? I don't know who he is,
but he's like judging them, and it's like the knockoff
of Chopped and Top Chef to a t, like okay,
but first we have to come back and meet and
like then you have the otfs, like the interviews where
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the individual welders, like the pressure is really intense, Like
you know, it's every show from Cupcake Wars too, I
have to beg the pressure of building making the wedding cake,
or like we had all these ingredients in the middle
of the table and we have to come up with
this shit, or the kids are I was dying.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I was like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
There are people inside a studio with those like levery
aprons and like sand blasting or like fire blazing, whatever
you call it, like sand blasting or like fire torching,
like swords and knives, and like what are they What
are they competing for? How much money they going to win?
What's the host getting paid? What's going on? Where is
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like the society and how did they cast these people?
Like I don't I know a lot of people in
the middle of the country because you know, we overgeneralize.
I'm on a coast, so like we think we represent everybody.
You know, everybody thought like the show Seinfeld wouldn't do
well because it was a Jewish coastal neurotic show, and
yet it did do well across the country. So the
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country is not as big as we thought. But like,
so let me just we often ignore, you know, the
flyover States in the middle of the country, and the
Bible Belt and the Christian the whole church tour, and
then there's the Borsched Belt, the whole Jewish community in
upstate New York A. Right, So it there's a lot
of different people. But like in my travels, I've met
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a lot of people around the country, and I haven't
met many people that are like blow torching fucking swords
inside for that for the eventual super Bowl of Swords
in at a studio, but like a tooth channel two thousand,
seven hundred and eighty six, this is where this content lives.
And I imagine if I go to the next channel,
there's gonna be a whole other thing. I didn't know,
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like people were like, you know, making things out of wax.
And it's wonderful that there's something for everyone. It's actually
really wonderful. I just don't know how far this goes.
But but to my point that I'd made many other times,
in many ways, TV is like a dinosaur because on
social media you can have one person organizing tappaware and
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another person collecting buttons, and you can be on motorcycle
talk and but I and I want to go into
TikTok and start putting like blowtorch welders and into my TikTok,
so I can see if I land on like sword
yielding sand blowtorching, sand blasting talk. I thought like I
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was in the back of a prison and like the
welder's room, but like very serious competition. I don't, no,
they should do that in prisons. They should have reality
shows in one portion of a prison where like wood
shopping and welding.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I just I thought like monster trucks and inked and
those type pimped my ride or like, yeah, I thought
that shit was like niche and adjacent. Now we're into
a whole fucking other abyss and and sphere of television
and entertainment. Just wanted you to know. And I didn't
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go as high as I could go. I didn't bring
my passport. I didn't like get my altitude medication. I
just didn't know it would go that high. I guess
it's like a colonic. I could go deep, hi, I don't.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I just know that I just turned my television on
and landed in some on some other fucking sword wielding planet.
So that's my useless rant du Jour.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Got back to the counter.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Most got back to answer back to the conser.