Rap Radar: Westside Gunn PT2

Hold up wait a minute; you thought we were finished? Nope! For our second installment, Westside Gunn introduces us to Griselda Records newest additions: Boldy James, Rome Streetz, and StoveGod Cooks. Here, the collective discuss their current and upcoming solo projects and 2023 plans.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, rapp right up podcast Ellia Wilson, just beat dot
you'll beat out the fly guys here, the fly Guy
beat us here, the Flyer God. Yeah, you know, I
think the Gazeta, even if Grizelda hats that guys have
hated you, they got to give it up when you
here with the fly Guy. That was hot, the Flyer Guy.
He's going back and forth a gun man, How are

(00:20):
you feeling, man? Part one? Man was a great start
to the year for us, right yeah, man, it feels good.
You know, the feedback has been pretty positive so far.
You know, Grisella keeps us on our toes. Man. I
think it's a great way to start off the year
with those guys and Westside Gun It's never a dull moment.
He also called to me a chump as I said
last week. But I'm going with the Flyer God. But
you guys seem to squash the beef. Now. It's about

(00:41):
to drop a part too today. But you know, the
timeline kept going. Remember called Cherry jumped in, you got
shout the called Cherry. You got called Cherry from Spotify. Yes,
good friend of you us full disclosure, right, he's a
good friend of us good friend of ours. That's true.
But yeah, you're closer to him than I am. I mean,
I like him, but yeah, you know you guys are,
but you're like you're like secret like text group chats
and all that. Yeah, yeah, I'm not part of that.

(01:03):
He's in the cool group one, right, the cool group.
He's in one of them. Yeah, which one is this?
I'm not in this one, separate one. Okay, since you
called Cherry and who can you it's I can't say.
I can't say. It's a lot of it's J five
thirteen classified that like young guru like like that something
along those on some rapper friends Rob markret or something cool. Now, man,

(01:26):
that's my god. Man, Yeah, we got some rapper friends.
But you know, I can't. Maybe the sclose at a
later date they I want to do a whole podcast
about how I don't be embraced by these these text groups.
But you guys in the media, man, you exclude me
and like you don't even text me back. Now, I
don't think you will be good at our group chats.
I've got I've got better. I've got better at that. Man. Yeah,

(01:50):
I gotta called Cherry, said our cultural critics not allowed
to have a voice, question Mark, Griselda, praise Beatsless where
they were included, they tried to invalidate it when they
were x louted beat that shares this objective opinion. Griselda
takes personal shots that feels extreme and that set my
little ig off in five hundred and fifty eight comments everything, man,

(02:11):
So what compelled called Terry to say that? Man, what
were your thoughts on that when? When when he went out?
I mean, you take the good, you take the bad.
I'm cool with the you know, the backlash or the criticism,
you know what I mean, Like, it's cool again, Like
I said last week, you don't get where we are
without having thick skin. So you know, if people have
something to say about my opinion, that's cool. You want

(02:31):
to entitled and welcome to disagree with me. I'm okay
with it now. I was gonna say, just as long
as you have like a coaching argument to kind of
back up what you're saying. I'm hitting with the words
or I'm speaking English. Well, you see, like we have
solved it. So it was interested though, because we do
going in we're doing it. At the end of the year,

(02:51):
your lists were gonna come out. He probably was gonna
get offended, but he still agreed to do the enterview
in advance, and we got the guys on and it
was just interesting that he really set it off, like
kind of beat from which you are from what really
wasn't beat before we came out, you know what I mean.
Like I've never really seen like an artist like view
with the platform before the content comes out, you know
what I mean. And then it seems like, well, he's
still gonna promote it. He's I was like, is he

(03:12):
gonna promote it? And then he called you a chump,
and it's like he is promoting it. But now it
seems like we're in a better spot now because after
called Cherry's tweet, Gun himself jumped in and said, Hey,
all you hip hop nerds really think I'm mad at
beat Out y'all some real idiots. I'm having a fun
moment with an N word. I can't say that anymore.
I have a fun moment with an N word that
I really know. I think I'm the goat. He can't

(03:35):
tell me no different. He has the right to have
an opinion. That's big him saying that, right, Yeah, I
do think he troll us a little for combo purposes,
so I'm trolling him. I don't know. I don't troll.
That's the funny. That's like a missnama I don't troll,
you know. But again he's right though, beat that out
vocabular at Missnamo. I got to go to college, man,

(03:57):
I'll use these words. Man, I went to community college.
Man it out. You're Delaware man, Delaware State. But now
he's right. I mean, you know, everyone's tied to their opinions,
and you know, cooler heads prevailed always, And like he
said in this conversation, he likes being a bad guy.
You know, he likes he likes being the heel. So
I think he lives up to that reputation. Yeah, we
had a real wrestling storyline with this. Man. I appreciate this.

(04:19):
It's kind of sad it's coming to a close with
this episode because it was pretty untating, you know, like,
and he couldn't do the part three really definitely, definitely,
And it's fair to say, you know, I don't want
to take any shots to any of the podcast, but
at this point it's great. Really clearly you can say
this is the best about interview of the year, west
side wrap right off after nine days in nine days

(04:42):
in Man, we got we got the belt. Man, I'm sorry,
we got the belt. Man. Now we gotta once we
get these videos out. Man, you can't tell us nothing.
I like being on top. Man. I wanted to get
your thought speed out. Man had a special anniversary of
this past weekend. He got a little emotional for me. Man.
Fifteen years ago. Man, Hm, I got fired from Double
XL Man. I noticed this impacted you a little bit.

(05:04):
Maybe the magazine magazine I used to run. This is
how we met, you came, what we did? You join again?
Two thousand and six, two thousand and six, So I
took over ninety nine two thousand, two thousand and six.
Beat out, blesses me with it takes his talent Tex
Excel blesses us. Yea, the young guy, the young flyer
guy out here in the work end. And then you

(05:24):
know we're at two thousand and six. It gets it's
played two thousand and six, like, did you feel like
we were like the top magazine? Like what was what
was the energy like from your advantage point, like to
be a Double Xcel magazine two thousand and six. Now
It felt great, man, I mean being a double excel
felt like you were playing for the Yankees or like
the Old One Lakers or something like that. You know,
your guys had that movie Browns Sugar, so now leading

(05:46):
pillies Elliott Will said double X. I was like, okay,
now I'm playing with the I'm at the major league.
So it felt good to be on the staff. And then, um,
when you left, it was like, damn, you know, we
can't have a say I left. I got fired, man,
you got you got I was asked to leave. Yeah,
you can't fire you know, George Steinbrenner or like you know,

(06:11):
Phil Jackson. Just felt like it was a void. So
I didn't know where we were gonna go. But it
felt good to be on staff at the time, you know,
and none of the your leadership. It was cool. Yeah,
It's not like Bat left for me. He stayed at XL.
You know, they said your black ass gotta go with him. Yes,
it was really only two months after you got let go,

(06:31):
like in in January, so yeah, maybe like maybe April
at best. Wow. So so I get fired after nine
nine years January two thousand and eight. A couple months later,
Brian bad Miller. What was your title with that? He
was editor. It was like a staff. I was editory, assistant, staff,
I was everything at that time. Yeah, and they just

(06:52):
and they just said budget cuts or whatever like because
the recession was the recession was upon us, not the
g Z album for the actual recession, and uh, they was,
you know, chopping heads. Heads had a role. And then
we come together a year later and we start the
rap Radar dot Com the website. Yes, sir, look at
look at that, look at that, look at God and

(07:13):
you as you like to say, we're still working together here. Unbelievable.
One of my longest partnerships. So then my wife Daniale
Smith will see the parties. I know what another partnership
I have as long as working with this Brian bad
Miller guy. Man. But I still enjoy it, man, I
still enjoy it. It's got still fun. It's been a
hell of a ride. They say, we want to make it.
Look at us. The other thing we have in common, Ryans.

(07:35):
You know our birthdays are coming up. Man, I'm January fourteen,
what are you just seventeen seventeen? And slick Rick the
rule is slick Rick. That's I always remember yeah, we're
the great ones of rap man. But yeah, with capricorns, man,
you think that's part of it? With capricorns were from queens.
This is January is our season. Like, I guess it's
just meant to be, man. This part of the ship

(07:55):
continues to grow, right, I think? So manson the Planets,
Stars the Stars, Yo, you saw good. I saw a
good collaboration of it came out ig today there's a
new joint with money Bag Yo and Gorilla Pimp. Did
you see yet? I didn't sleep. I didn't get to
it yet. You know, I'm making my list already. Oh no,

(08:16):
so let's take an inventory already. What's the best song
that's dropped this year so far? So it's been kind
of quiet. It's still early. I like that Russ joant
I got Russ what that? Yeah? I think Russ. You
know when Russa puts out the chomp, that's when I'm
like really in tune with Russ, you know what I'm saying.
So until he comes back with those, that's when I'm
you know, mall is. But you know, Russia is always

(08:38):
continuing to do it this thing. But I feel like
it's still kind of early to uh, you know to
call it, but I'm all is please believe Gucci Made
hasn't putting it out yet. So you know what, what's
the what's your most anticipated album of this year? Who
would you like to seek him out? I think that
Jermaine Cole is gonna make a comeback. Man. I mean,

(09:00):
not to be all conspiracy theorist. He did wipe his
ig clean. You know that last time he did that
was when he was releasing his last project. So I'm thinking, Okay,
maybe we're gonna get some new Germaine Cold this year.
I'm anticipating that. I think the Offseason was one of
the best albums of twenty twenty one after Magic, So
you know, I'm anticipating that. It's almost like not really

(09:23):
even a comeback. It's like he's kind of still on top.
But I think either he still is in that triangle
where it's like it's hard to put him ahead of
Drake or Kendrick at times, and like, you know, that
dynamic of the freedom, but you know Kobe spitting man.
I just think the way he's like attack versus now,
like you see, yeah, you know his sixties his verses
are just like cut your head off like he's just
yalp with it, Like he's really just like become kind

(09:46):
of a specialist with it, you know what I mean.
Like I just feel like he's just gonna bar you up.
Like it's funny because like the guy that never did
guest features becomes the guy that kind of writes every
verse like it's a killer guest feature, right, It's like, yeah,
he's just bodying stuff. Man. I want to Hope to
come back. Man, I don't know how, you know, we
can get our good friend to put the album out,
But jay Z to rapper, jay Z to rapper man,

(10:06):
man long we were four, four forty and a long
time ago, man, I was I had just joined title
but that was a little topico. Man. It will be
six of years this year if I'm not mistaken. Uh
yeah seventeen yeah yeah wow. So yeah, I think it's
time for new jay Z. I would love New jay Z.
Was always it's time for hope. It's time for hope.
But you know with Colo, then it comes back to

(10:27):
space somebody. Then can we anticipate them come in out
of rapper? At the podcast? How could we get Jamad
Cole to come out of rapper? Into podcast. Well, he
did tell us when we interviewed him after his show,
the Dreamville Fest, that he would come on like full
for real, for real this time, you know. So you
know I'm holding him to that. But will will let
me get Eve on the phone or somebody will figure

(10:47):
it out yet on the phone on the phone. Yeah,
I remember. I I hat one day though, like that
people underrated that a whole like Dreamville interview, like the
fact that he did the whole concert, came to talk
to us after like that was like on some professional
flee shit, like rappers don't do that like he did
show and then he still gave us a great half
hour interview. Man, So you guy should look that up.
I think it's slowly on the YouTube that videos out there.

(11:12):
Joy that these guys on my back. We're coming with
the videos. Guys, just be a little bit more patient,
I promise. Yes, I'm gonna stop blaming Laura Laura from
hyper House, our producer shout out Laura, like I'm gonna say,
asked Laura. Asked Laura should be half stag asked Laura,
and then at hyper House that that should be the
new movement. I think we should put the wolve put
the wolves on it right there. See what happens. I

(11:34):
WoT you and that I'm not mad at that. Okay,
I think I think we're gonna get Jermaine. But in
the meantime, let's get to this west side gun Grisela.
Let's get that with the guys. Don't explain to these
points to the guys with them and the team Boldy James,
Ron streets, you got stove got cooked. You put stove
got cooks on man in a lot of people's eyes.
I don't think, I don't say I'll put them on.
I just you know, I just enhancement was already there,

(11:55):
and um, I think he could put out a really
fantastic project in two thousand and twenty, any Core Reasonable
Drought that got a lot of people's attention. Aufter I
included it on my annual list. Bowie James is doing
his thing. Of course, as Alcamac he does his own
side projects. Killing Nothing was one of my favorites of
last year. You know, I saw something. I saw some
kids online beasts they hate to cut you off and
tow some kid online with space He's saying, how body

(12:16):
James is like he's the best out of all of them,
like he was really stating in this case, why Bodie's
actually the dopest. Griselda MC and the click. Well you
heard what west Side said about opinions, right, so I
love Bolie, you know, and Sto streets they call him
like an underground kind of like big l kind of character.

(12:36):
And uh, I can see where the comparisons start, you know,
and everyone's kind of doing their thing. They're doing that
thing man, and would bless that Griselda Man. For the
fourth time, West Side Gun appears on the Rap Right
Up Podcast. He bought the boys, he brought the new
Wolves with a man. The Griselda saga continues, they can't
get rid of the combination man, Grizelda rapp right Up Man,
Rap right Up Podcast, because come on, tradition, let's do it.

(12:58):
Let's do it. That's get into the part two Man,
west Side Gun, Body, James Brown Street, Stove Got Cooks,
Rap right Up Podcasts that show looking like, what are
we doing tonight? I'm just I'm curating something crazy, bro. Like,
the same way I do music is the same way
I'm about to have that stage. That's why I say

(13:19):
West Side Gun and Friends or special guests because you know,
usually safe. For instance, if it's hid curfew at twelve,
I don't get on stage to eleven, you feel me,
So you know, usually the people will be sitting there
all day, ten openers, five, DJ, eleven, oh Fiveday, Like,

(13:47):
where the fuck is he yet? You know what I'm saying. No,
this time, I'm coming out tonight at nine. Yeah, I'm
gonna be on stage from nine to twelve. You know
what I'm saying. Yeah, it's one of them nights, so
you never know what's gonna happen to bring east Side
Flip on you on stage. Listen. I try. I try

(14:07):
to pay top dollar for east Side Flip that comes
to Miami. No old body was fucking with me, nobody.
I try to pay people thousands to bring flip. You
know you got arrest the last gun bos oh wow
yeah yeah last year. You know what I'm saying, he
hit the cop. You know what I mean, They bagged
him up. You know, last year was a crazy year. See,

(14:29):
that's the thing about it's so much behind the scene
ship that don't people don't be known about that because
just so funny and fire like with stories come out
because again I only put out what I just want
people to know, you know what I'm saying. It's not
like I only put a picture up once a week
because I'm only flying once a week and fly seven
days a week. I just only wanted to post it,

(14:52):
you know what I'm saying. Shit like that. So it's
like I sit course side all the time. It's not
just like be like, hey look at me, I'm on
the court or I'm you know, people already know I'm courtside.
I'm front row at all the wrestlings. I just do
all that shit, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm
just you know, just living my life to keep my
energy high, in my spear high, because like we you know,

(15:12):
we've been through a lot growing up, you know what
I'm saying, We've been through a lot. So now that
I'm here, I just try to like stay positive because
we're still losing people every other day, you know what
I'm saying. And it's like, you know, nas like I
want to see my grandma smile, my kids smile, you know,
shit like that. So it's just like, you know, I

(15:33):
just try to keep the energy high, you know what
I'm saying that all times and Michelle Records showing the
house the other day too, Like it's like does it
blow you waven sometimes yourself, like oh shit, like this
really worked and like I'm living that life and living
the way I want to live and provide my family
in this major way. Yeah, it blow my mind all
the time, you know what I'm saying all the time.

(15:55):
And it's crazy because like this is an old lie.
When I went to hold house hold was like you
sometimes I still be shipped here like damn, how the
fuck I get all of get all this, like how
did this even happen? But that's I'd be thinking like
that too, and I'm nowhere close to that, you know
what I'm saying. But just being from east side Buffalo,

(16:18):
you know what I'm saying, we don't we don't see that,
you know what I'm saying. So it's just like for
me to be like because I don't even think nobody
on the bills can fuck with me, will come to
fly shit, like you know what I'm saying for real,
Like so's nobody really don't see it, you know what
I mean? And um, and the thing is too, like
people still see me in the hood though, you know

(16:39):
what I'm saying. So it's just like you're not gonna
see nobody else with a rolls Royce. You already know
we right through made back, you know what I'm saying,
Bright Red made back through every city and Buffalo, you know,
every street of Buffalo, you know, going everywhere we wanted
to go. And that's just how it is, you know
what I'm saying. It's just like, are you lily though,
because you know when the recent deaths of certain rappers

(17:00):
and stuff like that, you know, people are saying you
got to be conscious of your surroundings and things like
that or you I mean one thing, as a man,
you can't be just scared to live, you know what
I'm saying. I know that sound crazy because and I'm
not superman. Yeah, so you gotta just think smart, be conscious.
I think every every move I make, I think about

(17:21):
my kids before me, and I just you know, the
only thing you can do is pray. Bro, Don't nobody
know nothing. You know what I'm saying. It's not it's
that we ain't on our time. We're on God time.
So you can't overthink that, you know what I'm saying.
It's just like, you know, you just just gotta pray
and just move the best you can. Some things is

(17:43):
just you just never know. You know what I'm saying.
You can't even it don't matter hype, just like safe
and instance, what you know, recipes take off. It's like
you don't know that's gonna happen, right You don't know
that you can have You could have had security on
both side. You don't know. You know what I'm saying.
You could be driving up the street right now. You

(18:04):
know what I'm saying, to drop somebody. You can be
in the car with five security guards. It's something can happen.
You just gotta That's just why why you on Earth.
You gotta do the best you can, you know what
I'm saying, and live the best way you can. Last night,
I missed my flight, went to the restaurant seeing some
homeless people outside. I brought the homeless people inside, ate

(18:24):
dinner with some homeless strangers. You know what I'm saying.
I didn't put that on Instagram. You know what I'm saying.
I did that last night. I ate last night just
like that. You see what I'm saying. So that's how
that's what I mean by the energy I have so
you know, I don't really like even when I be

(18:44):
on the line and I'll be talking shit to people
in the comments, I really be having fun. That shit
don't bother me. Internet is fate, that shit ain't real,
and other people's opinions really really don't matter. If you know,
you blessed, And you know that's why I say when you,
I just know nobody can fuck with me. It don't matter.
You know, it don't matter. What can't you say? Like,

(19:07):
what can you possibly say to me that's gonna hurt
my feelings? You're gonna say somebody else rap better than me,
a dub. I didn't even want to be a rapper.
How you gonna compare a motherfucker. I've been wanting to
wrap since five years old and in study dictionaries and
shit to a motherfucker that you know what I'm saying,

(19:27):
Just get fly and do fly shit, you know what
I'm saying. And it's just like people be having just
weak minds, Like you hear me talk about goal yard
bag and then so you see the goal yard bag.
It's a purse, Like I don't get it. You're dancing
to it, you're wrapping it, you wrapping the words out
your fucking models. Oh you know that's that's a purse old.

(19:49):
Oh those boots, Oh those girl boos, she hadn't apple
bottoms all this Oh wow, shit, that shit is hilarious
to me because it's like, yo, you look at these
just just all the people that say that. Click on
the ship to see how they look. You know, just
just do be a favorite. Just click on just five
of them, just right like you like, come on, man,

(20:12):
you know what I'm saying, like all of it shutting.
You see me with some Selene boots. So see, that's
the thing. I'm so fly. Y'all motherfuckers don't even get it.
Y'all don't even get it. Y'all don't even get the
shit I was talking about on Part three, Part four,
Part five, Part six, Part seven. That's why y'all say
such as says might be a better rapper, because y'all

(20:33):
don't get it. Y'all don't. Y'all ain't y'all ain't never
lived like this. Y'all never wore Selene, You never wore
d Or you never wore Gie von Gi. You never
wore this shit. How the fuck is you gonna tell me?
You know what I'm saying, you can't you motherfucker shop
at motherfucking TJ Max. Fuck is you talking about y'all?

(20:58):
Y'all don't even go to fashion week in New York
City and y'all in Brooklyn and you're trying to tell
me about fashion. I don't add up, my brother. You
were very stylish of the video you did with Black Star. Also,
they had just did SNEL too, Like, talk about putting
that together. That's that's amazing, That's what I'm saying, Like,
you know, respect, you have the other artists half for you. Yeah,

(21:19):
that's what I'm saying. It shaw Love, Like you don't
even see Black Star together much, and you definitely don't
hear a lot of music because even the music that
they made, you know, they had it on their own streaming,
you know, so people really still didn't hear the album.
So the masses haven't heard them together in a long time.
And then for them, you know, they did SNL with Chappelle.

(21:39):
Shout out to Chappelle too. That's the homie. I'm pretty
sure you're gonna talk about the bag and boots too.
I'm waiting for that clip because he always dogging me
or some shit. You know what I mean. But you know,
it's always fun. Like I always say, the only person
that could pop shit about me is Chappelle because I
know it's just love and I fuck with him like that,
you know what I'm saying, And I know it's love
when he sayd You know, other people just weird though.

(22:02):
I take it from Chapedo because I know it's all
I love, you know what I mean, that's my guy. Yeah.
But that same night, right yeah, so no, it was
like the next day, next day. Yeah, so um. I
just was like, Yo, they're in New York. I wasn't
even in New York. I flew to New York to
do it. I'm just like, yo, wait a minute in

(22:23):
New York together, hold on, I gotta go back, you
know what I'm saying. And I just made that, you know,
made them calls like yo, if you know I hit
up Chase. It was just like, yo, Chase. You know
what I'm saying. If um, if they're willing to shoot
the video, I come back to New York first thing
in the morning. It hit y'all seen y'all Seene was down,
you know. You know Qualley, you know what I'm saying.

(22:44):
You know, once you got y'all Seene, it's like, okay, yeah,
you know what I mean. It's the thing if Quali
say yeah, y'all Seene too busy. So but they both
was down and um, I just felt like it's only
right if we do it at Peppers go to Brooklyn,
you know what I'm saying. And I first when I
pulled up, I went to, um the Flatbush location, original location,

(23:07):
so you already know I'm in the hood with the
furry boots and the purse like they claimed. You know
what I'm saying, and getting love from the people. Gangsters.
You know what I'm saying, real life gangsters. This is
their neighborhood, showing up, showing love. Nobody thought about nothing,
no funny shit. We had. The energy is high, Like

(23:28):
I said, I keep it a high energy, and it
was just like they I shot my scene. But then
they got the wrong information and went to the one
on Utica. Y, so then I had to go to Utica.
Yeah for sure, that ship, that ship and um so
then I went over there and shot with them. You

(23:50):
know what I'm saying. It was all love. So I
had to go to both Peppers. You know what I'm
so and endoy it and like I said, it was
all love and it was crazy because you know, mind
you again, black star together. It just did es Now.
We shot the video in Brooklyn and then the first
thing my fuckers want to talk about is the boots.

(24:11):
You know what I'm saying. That was the part that
was like, y'all, y'all not for the culture, because y'all
missing the fucking point, y'all trolls. Do y'all? Do y'all
really realize what the fuck I'm doing right here? Do
y'all get it? Like? Is this shit so far past
y'all that y'all don't even these boots is more important
than what I just did. This moment I gave you. Yeah,

(24:36):
so that be the ship that sometimes be like and fuck, y'all,
I'm about to I ain't doing ship for a while,
you know what I'm saying. I'm about to race all
my pictures. I don't even want to fuck with nobody
for a month or two because y'all don't deserve me.
I'll be on shit like that. I think put the
record together like science class? Can you talk about the process?
I love that song about it? Yeah, so you know,

(24:59):
Swish you know what I mean. Me and him was
talking and it swisses my guy. You know, he a
big art guy too. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
fly guy. You know that's the thing. It's like, you know,
builders built with builders, you know what I'm saying. And
you know, Swiss is one of them guys I highly
respect because he is a fly guy. He is you know,
he having into art and hip hop and it. You know,

(25:20):
he'd been you know, through the eras and all of
that too, and I just respect him a lot. You know.
I got some production for him. The first one we
did was Break after Break. Break after Breaker was on
the Godfather Harlem joint because at first I made it
for me, you know what I'm saying. Did He was like,
I need that for the show, and I can't tell Swizzy.

(25:42):
You know, I'm like, yo, my brother, because you know
what me, I'm like, Yo, I gotta switch bracket. I'm
about to drop this wallfucker. But then he wanted it,
you know what I'm saying. I do another one later
and it ended up being a science class and he
gave me that beat and I just my motherfucking legs
was noodles? I say yo, I never heard of Swiss
beats like this, and like I can't even say, like

(26:04):
this shit is crazy, And first person I heard, I
wanted to just make it crazy. First person I heard
was Buster. I played it for him. I put the
reaction video the first time he ever heard the beat,
and he went crazy because the thing is, he made
the beat on a PJ. Like I still got the
video of Swiss making it on a private jet, sending

(26:27):
it to me, zoning out all of that, you know
what I'm saying. And when I played it for Buster,
Buster went crazy. And then that's when I started curating.
I could hear Ray coming like right after, and then
after Ray, I'm like, I gotta put ghosts, so you
know the trick, you gotta send ghost, you know what
I mean. The record already was busting Ray like Ghost,

(26:49):
you know, And that's how it happened. Goals smoked it,
and then you know, me and Stole just went back
and forth and did I want too because you know,
I only you know, up to that point, I only
back and forest with with Conway when we do our
Hall and Nash Ship. I never really did back and
forth and nobody else, you know what I'm saying. But
it's just like, you know, me and Stove have a

(27:11):
chemistry too, you know what I'm saying. And it's just
like you never can take away with Hall and ash Do,
but like the Western Stove connection is like, yeah, you
feel me. It's just like that because I see you
guys singing out a lot. You know, I got introduced
to Stove to rock Moss And the reason of the
Doubt project is it, what's the situation like with with

(27:32):
you and Stove. It's my brother, you know what I'm
shan like, you know, here star Her Star Man. And
you know, I get harassed eight days a week on
when Stove album coming out. I get harassed about that
more than anybody like and and it's and I'm gonna
be honest, it's not on Stove. Okay, it's not on Stove.

(27:56):
It's actually on me. What's the man? Because Reasonable Drop
project was so great, you know, and I caught a
lot of flatcause people didn't know who, you know, who
he was and that project at the time. But when
he heard it, they understood and they got it and
everyone's just like waiting for the follow up. So yeah, no,
I mean, the thing is you know, we're about to
start working on it, you know what I'm saying, Like

(28:17):
we already been discussing it, like in the last week
or two. You know, at once I dropped ten like
that was the thing, Like once I dropped Chen and
let me you know, finished the year off. And you know,
still like I said, we got a couple of video
show off the lids. We still got a couple more
videos from Kiss the Ring, Like let's finished doing this.
You know, we shot the movie. Were premiered a movie

(28:39):
out here tomorrow during Gunbatsle too, So I got the theaters.
You know what I'm saying, It's gonna have two showings tomorrow.
So I got the movie too, you know starn Room,
because that's the thing Rome is like because a lot
of people, let's just be like being real, Like a
lot of people want to fuck with Grizel the records, right,

(29:00):
you know what I mean, I ain't gonna put like
certain people out There's people that's known, people are not known.
It's people that people love and respect all like right now,
that's like, yo, if I would fun with anybody, will
be I would fun with y'all, Like y'all, y'all guys
doing it right. It looked like you're having fun, y'all
doing it the right way. I wouldn't mind letting you
executive produce something or less. You know what I'm saying,

(29:21):
Let's just connect one time, see how it go. You know.
But the thing is like with Rome again, I just
felt like nobody can fun with him. Lyrically. He reminds
me of just New York City, like you just period,
like you know, and people always just put us just
some buffalo shit, and I just wanted wanted to expand,

(29:41):
like you know, slowly, and you know, I just felt
like Rome was the Illis Mcat in New York City
and it was just only right. It was only a
matter of time that we connect because it's just like,
you know, I searched for something that like I'm missing,
and I'll be searching for people that feel like they

(30:02):
missing me, you know what I mean? If that makes sense,
It's like, Okay, you you might be lacking a little
where you're strong a lot of this, but you might
be lacking in this a little bit, and then but
I might be strong. It's fucking that little bit and
if you just add me to that little piece, you
out of here. You know what I'm saying, And I

(30:22):
just felt like that because the thing is, it's like,
you know, when you underground, a lot of eyes and
ears aren't on you. And like I said, I'm right
in that middle. So I know, if I curate a project,
Drake might listen to it, Travis might listen to it,
Tyler might listen to it, Hove might listen to it,
Nas might listen to it, Marshall might listen to it.

(30:44):
So I do these albums so Hove can hear it wrong,
you know what I'm saying, So Nas can hear wrong,
So Marshall can hear wrong. You feel me then out
you know what I'm saying. But now it's like, nah,
since y'all paying attention to me, let me show you something.
And Drake paid attention to my comedy with the Pray

(31:05):
for Haiti project. Yeah yeah, sure, that's yeah, That's what
I'm saying for sure, And you know that's that's just
what it's about. It's spreading the culture. I'm not selfish,
like I want my guys to shine like that's that's
just the goal of mine, man, to just make sure
like everybody happy and having fun. Because it's just more

(31:25):
about making music too. It's like I like to give
knowledge too, you know what I'm saying, just us just
as a man and the experience. Like I want people
to do well. I try to figure out ways for
people to be able to shine and be able to
take care of their family. And you know, I just
you know, Grizelda Records right now, we literally like write
in our own history right now in the rap hit.

(31:47):
You know, I think right now it's like the Griselda era,
you know what I'm saying. Like people don't see it
now because it's just still in real time, but like
five years from now, ten years from now, you know
how you had the g unit in days and the
Dip said days. It's like these days it's gonna be
the Grisella days for real, because we just that's the

(32:10):
thing again. You still got Stove, still got Cody, you
still got jay Worthy, you still got another room Hermione
about to cook more while in coming with a gangster
grill with drama. And I got a new guy too
that I'm he performing tonight, you know what I'm saying,
Like he from Buffalo two checking my brother time sous dope,

(32:31):
you know, what I'm saying, dope as fuck. You know
what I'm saying. Usually I keep people tucked. I wouldn't
even set his name early, you know what I'm saying.
But it don't matter. Me and him even do business.
And I want people to know, Man, it's another Buffalo
kid out there. Brother time sous checking shit, man, real
dope him See man, I so used to something about
jail Electronica too. He's trying to Oh yeah, yeah, right,

(32:53):
that's my guy. You know what I'm saying. And me
and him talk, you know, he to think about him
is it's so you know what I'm saying, Like me
and him can face time. You're gonna see every tooth
in his mom like he's smiling all that gold ship
for real, you know what I'm saying. And I don't
even I don't even like do a lot of like

(33:16):
screenshots when I'm on the phone with people. I don't
you know what I'm saying. And sometimes I really you know,
like I did it with Ray Kwan, but I asked
it like y'all. I just want people to know, you
know what I'm saying, that we're building Premo. I did
the same thing your Premo I'm about to take a
screenshot just to let people know we're cooking, you know
what I mean, And what jail Electronica is the same thing.

(33:37):
But like when I took the picture, the man was
like glowing in and shit, like I'm like, yo, yo,
the wofucker was glowing. But like that's my guy, Like
he you know, he sent me like fairy con speeches
all the time, different books, production, Like I probably in
my phone, I probably gotta least ten jail electryn to

(34:02):
combats that. Nobody never heard that. I know, just soon
he cooking and it just sent me the video like
wants listen to this, you know what I'm saying, Like
I just I respect him for that because he don't
have to do that at all. So that's how I
know he respects me. You know what I'm saying as well,
And that'd be coming out of his mouth like I'm
Griselda now, man, I'm Griselda. Now, I'm this, I'm that,

(34:26):
and I'm this, I'm that. You know, it's just all love,
you know what I'm saying. It's just like you know,
if it ever happened, it would be phenomenal, you know
what I'm saying. Because he you know, he was out
the country before he invited me to come out to work.
That's the thing. That's what I'm saying. It's genuine, it's
not no bullshit. So it's like when you hear Westside
gonna jail Electronica, it's not no, Oh that shit ain't real. No,

(34:48):
that's still homie. Like when he cooking and all that,
he'd be hitting me or what you're gonna come out here,
let's knock out six. Let's knock out five like shit
like that, Like he ready to work, you know what
I'm saying. You know, people are so used to you know,
him not working. That's what he don't work. He don't work, man,
that man working like a motherfucker. Don't let that ship
because he's not. Like I said, how I don't be

(35:09):
posting pictures, but I think he ain't working. If you
want to that motherfucker really work. He cooking, y'all. Just
he just probably don't drop it, you know what I'm saying.
It was on that picture you posted with asap rocket,
he just came to the crib one day and yeah, yeah,
you know, is that the first that made the project
on til Yeah, yeah, you know, what I'm saying, Like
that's what I mean. Like he was in Atlanta, you

(35:32):
know what I'm saying, and I was at my people's house.
It wasn't even at my house. I was at my
people house and he still put up. But I had
the studio already set up at my people house, so
I was just already over there vibing, and he like, shit,
I'm in Atlanta. I'm like shit because I you know,
I put up on Like when he in Atlanta, I
pulled up on him. You know what I'm saying. It's

(35:52):
just like you know, it's saw I love man, you
know what I'm saying, Like we really be, I'd be
working with a lot of people behind the scene. People
just don't know. You know what I'm saying like that
in his genuine it's all love, Like you know, Rocky
hit me like we gotta shoot the video for shootout,
you know what I'm saying. It's so it's not like
I hit him, like yo, bro man, you because anybody

(36:13):
else would do that. Rocky eas like Buffalo man save
me you like Na na Na, But the respecting you'd
be like he hit me, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yo,
we need to shoot that. So you know that's the
thing with ten. I plan to shoot every song for

(36:34):
ten like that was my thing, Like the last one.
I want to shoot every last song. So uh, it's
only like two you know, two or three people I've
been just I would even work with which a snap
guy's my guy, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's
my personal like brother and this shit gems daily gyms.
We've been shooting all the videos. You know what I mean.

(36:56):
That's my guy, that's Grizelda. You know what I'm saying.
And um, but like I told Chase, you know, like
this type of situation because again, my team not selfish,
you know what I'm saying, Like I can go to
gyms and snap me like, look, I know we shot
all these other ones. But I think science class need hype,
you know what I'm saying, or kid out or you

(37:17):
know what I'm saying, like because of what it is.
You know what I'm saying, not saying y'all Kate do it.
But I'm when I think of science class and I
think of Buster, Ray gos Me and Stove going back
and forth, I think hype. You know what I'm saying.
You know, Hype used to shoot you know, the old
wolf videos, Like they don't gotta be no fucking zillion

(37:38):
dollars video. It could just be No, let's take it
back to park Hill Stapleton. You know what I'm saying,
less fucking you know, let's go on Flatbush. Yeah, let's
let's do Like that's the type of you know, hype
I want you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't
want no motherfucking green screen. You know what I'm saying.
I don't need no special effects. I want the raw height.

(38:01):
You know what I'm saying. So you know, and I
talk to height, you know what I mean. That's the thing,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm working, But I
just want to shoot one. Like I said, I shot
the movie and I want to shoot because I don't
shoot videos. So this was just new to me, you
know what I'm saying. Just like shooting videos now. Because again,

(38:23):
like I talk a lot of shit. I you know,
I splash on motherfucker's when I want to. But I'm
a you know, at the end of the day, man,
I'm a father. You know what I'm saying. I'll be chilling, bro,
I'm a wrestling head Nerd. Actually, you know what I'm saying,
and I really do be just chilling, you know what
I'm saying, And you know every now and then because
you know, it's like wrestling. You know, everybody got like

(38:43):
that character and them like that when I just come out, Yeah,
because like you know the Hill, Yeah, you know him,
like I'm a hill, Like you got your you know
what I'm saying, You got your faces and then you
got your Hell. I know I'm a hell. I always
in the hill, but I'm the hill. I'm the bad
guy that you root for. You feel me, because every

(39:05):
even even the Hills, got good to him. You know
what I'm saying, Like, you know, It's just that's just
how it is. It's actually like whise, wrestling is still
so important you. I feel like as kids we get
into wrestling, and it sometimes you get older, their interests
goes away. But you've maintained your interests in wrestling. Yeah.
Our front row every pay per view, both both major companies.
I could be at like literally last two weekends, I

(39:28):
was front row at for gear A w In the
very next week, I was front row at Survivor Series
w WE. Like I don't pick size. It's just culture.
But in the sound it might sound crazy, but it's
like even though people might say, okay, wrestling faking this
and that and this and that, it's just like it's
life to me though, you know what I'm saying. Like

(39:49):
the characters. It's like like I always say, I feel
wrestling really than this rap shit. You know what I'm saying.
It's way more characters than his rap shit. Trust me,
I'm saying way more characters in this rap shit. You
know what I'm saying. So it's just like, so must
have felt good bringing out Daniel Garcia and performing Doctor Birds.
That was a dream come true. Okay, that was a

(40:11):
dream come true, you know what I'm saying. Because again,
as a wrestling nerd, you always envision that you're gonna
wrestle in the ring or you're gonna you know, just
be a part of it. So way, somehow it was
just it was just crazy. Man, Like he asked me,
you know, he was coming to Buffalo and he had
you know, I always consider him a Buffalo kid. Anyway,

(40:34):
you know, I'm saying, he already rocked the clothes and
butcher and blade from a w as well. I had them. Actually,
like when you fly in the Buffalo, you know, the
billboards had them on it, you know what I'm saying.
So that's what I'm saying, the Buffalo shit. We're sticking
together because we've been down for so long. Wrestlers sticking
with each other, the sports motherfucker's sticking with each other,

(40:55):
you know, Like I said, how the Google down ship
came together, Like, we're sticking with each other because it's
just like, yo, we've been down for so long. We're
just helping each other come up. Like right now, I'm
in the process of even just trying to make Danny
or us just a song to be his new theme period.
You know what I'm saying, Because it's just like every
time you come to the ring, man, it needed you know,

(41:15):
people need to feel Buffalo. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So it's just like we just saw on that type
of time we underdogs, man, you know what I mean.
It's like, you know we still it's always them debates,
them still, man, new motherfuckers ain't from New York, man,
you know what, We still get all of that shit,
you know, I mean all the time. And that's fine. Man,
Like when Conway given that that tutorial on the Rick

(41:39):
James documentary that was on Showtime and kind of give
a real insight that's to you know, the origins of
Buffalo and how the city is broken up demographically. That
was really dope. Yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Buffalo is just different. You know what I'm saying. It's
you know, small. Everybody just know each other. So it's
just like if you somebody the streets, you know what

(42:01):
I'm saying, And and you know, we just the people
that's really busting moved because you know, the thing is
about my city too. It's so many people that love me,
but there's so many people that hate me too because
they've been trying to do the same ship for twenty years,
you know what I'm saying, and it just so happened.
I used to fuck their baby mama or something, and
they want to kill me allegedly. We got company, man, gentlemen,

(42:32):
here he in the world, yo, yo, from the streets
snow Jesus, Who what's up? Bowie? How you feeling? Baby?
Can't complain, man, it's been a good year for you too,
Bodie man. Yeah, talking about the project that they're killing

(42:58):
nothing man like that was one of my favorite projects
to ship and the process behind that. Shout out to
the real bad man, you know what I'm saying. My
dude Adam, he uh he really specialized in like fashion,
you know, and he used to be in a band,
so he reached out through Alchemists and we've been locked

(43:21):
in ever since. And me and dude, we just we
got some worth the docks, like different shit going on
how we make music, and you know, I've been getting
a good response from it. So we just keep working
and working and you know that's what you get out
of that from us. Just keep working, building our buying
and you know what I'm saying, just growing with the

(43:42):
times and this ship for the culture and working with
Alchemists a lot too. Man Techno bowls, that's a big bro.
Shout out to the Chemists absolutely what you're twenty? What's
the next project? We ain't gun just be the finished
kicking ass, you know what I'm saying, and finish our
breakfast that stovegard Man, finally we meet. Come on, come on,

(44:06):
stove god man. How does he feel when he picked
up your project? Did he only makes you? How to
hear these streets help helping out a lot of They
started questioning me. Really they was hating for real. Wow,
they didn't they didn't know what it was yet. But
do you feel pressure kind of like trying to top
that project? Reasonable drop? How it's light work, It's easy,

(44:30):
it's easy. Shit. We do this shit every day. We
could go grab twenty joints right now. It just sounds
just like that they don't believe me when I say
these things. I'm trying to take what I'm saying that
it's really that fucking easy. It's like y'all might be
hearing these albums and y'all think like because everybody else

(44:51):
take two and three years to drop one, like we'd
be really making these ships in like two three days,
like literally, like it don't it's not like we just
be months months, months and just working, working working. It's
literally nabed. Honestly, they only waiting for the beats. They
these motherfuckers already. You know what I'm saying. He stayed fumed.

(45:16):
Look at it, so he hit me or what we're doing,
what we're cooking? You know what I'm saying. We still
gotta drop two more videos for Rome album. He hitting
me for more ship for the next album, and he
got one week conductor he bui. I had just sent
him a beat the last night because I was under pressure.

(45:37):
Still need to be you know what I'm saying, Like
they hungry hit me last week. We gotta like my
team is fucking hungry. So I just want to know it,
Like how much input would Rock Marcy having a new
project follow up for I'm saying if if the production
is is his everything he came with, you know, really

(45:59):
with reason of drought. He just gave me the beats.
It was no conversation or you know what I'm saying.
So Rock just gave me for a reasonable drought. He
just gave me all the beats. And I wasn't really
fucking with him, Like when I first got him. It
was like, you know because in that moment, it was
like I was telling I don't know somebody else. In

(46:23):
that moment, I felt like the ship was like a
lot of just rap and then the song just go
off and that's not how I do shit. So it's like,
if I was gonna do it, I'm like, you gotta
be like what I do Hook, you know what I'm saying,
Like song structure melodic shit that wasn't going on and
in this lane. So when I first got the shift

(46:43):
from like you know what I'm saying, I don't know.
Then I started to make it my own and I'm
like I could do this, and that's when the ship
started from. But nobody heard the shit until it was done.
Rock didn't hear it, like until it was done, and
then he gave me, you know, the input on his ship.
But his input was like like he wanted me to

(47:04):
take the hook off on the intro. I want me
to take the sh off likes get base, not diverse.
He just wanted me to take right right right, right
right right. So it was like conversation like that once
it was done and it's like, Kno, I can't do
that behind me like that. But you know, if the
production is Rocks, then you know what I'm saying, Like

(47:26):
he's gonna give his input in you know, Rock's been
doing this shit and you know, waving the flag before.
I think it's brought it to the new generation. So
we always gonna listen to you know, what the result
of the project should look like. I feel like you're
gonna feel like when they rolled up the Stone away

(47:47):
and Jesus wasn't there. Feels really gone. Real shit. Other
guys don't like any confidence that I'm telling you, Man

(48:09):
this shit. Listen, man, you know it's a Grizelda era. Man,
I don't give a fuck with nobody say, man, you
know what I mean. I wish it was I wish
it was a hologram of Benny and for real, you
know what I mean, because you know, you know why

(48:29):
he gonna get here later and shit, but shit, he
just got shot, so you know he's gonna come. He
coming tonight though, you know what I'm saying. He shit,
I just seen him yesterday and getting will without the wheelchair,
you know what I'm shout out the hospital. But you
know he missed the first flight and he's gonna try
to get on his next one. But you know, like
even with like whyn you know what I'm saying, Like,

(48:50):
you know I didn't have why instance he was eighteen,
you know what I mean, he twenty one now, or
he might have just turned twenty two. But I had
him for like four years, you know what I'm saying.
But he'd been shot four times in four years. So
it's just like we really never got a chance to
really do what we need to do because you know,
when when people get shot, just more come with that.

(49:12):
You know what I'm saying, You just gotta make everything
makes sense. But like you know, that's like a little
brother slash son slash. You know what I'm saying, everything
in one you know what I'm saying. So and I
know even when I found him, he had like a
thousand followers, you know what I'm saying, Like nobody knew
who he was. I had vision for him. And then

(49:33):
you know what I'm saying, like, yo, this this kid
got it. But then once I realized, like you know
that the young boys was on a different kind of time. Man,
These young boys on a different kind of time, you
know what I mean. Like you know, I'm I'm I'm
proud to be forty, Like I just turned forty this year.
I'm I say that shit out loud, like listen, listen,

(49:57):
little hole. You don't like me because you're twenty two
or three. He ate, Okay, but I'm forty. But for real, no,
like all Joe society is like young boys just on
a different kind of time. And like I said, you
know that's that's that's new energy for me. You know

(50:18):
what I'm saying, because especially like right now, when I'm
doing certain things and then I still got to deal
with that too. It's just like you know, but it's
all about timing. Like I said, man, this is this is,
this is lad by God, you know what I'm saying.
And you know why, You'm about to get his shine too.
And he would have been here like I said, but
you know the incident occurred. But um, you know what

(50:39):
I'm saying, He about to get shine too, like why
he he he next on the self shit, like we
love him, like we play his ship like he already lit.
You know what I'm like, We literally play his ship
like because it's really like that, you know what I mean.
But again, it's just about time. And I know once
I strike with him, it's no turning back. But again,

(51:00):
you know what I'm saying. You just gotta it's all
about time and you gotta just move certain ways because again,
you know what I mean, I'm still trying to adapt
on learning this young boy. Shit. Man, I've been out
of that type of lane for so long. It's like
you gotta still be careful, you know what I'm saying.
And it just gotta make sense. But that's that's my
little brother s last son, you know what I'm saying,

(51:22):
And he's about to be you know what I'm saying
next year when we're doing Griselda Christmas, isn't that gonna
be dancing? Another one? About what's up? Brother? Was something
when I'm in the back of the day, I see
the vision yet like, man, I remember, that's what I'm saying.
I met you and west to all like a couple

(51:43):
of years ago some party. You know, you gotta you gotta,
you gotta come in right, I'm like, all right, feel
right now? Right? Of course everything it's aint. What mean
you connect with gunning? But why does it feel right?

(52:04):
The leader of the lane? And you know I was,
I was kicking the ass, so you know you noticed
what I was doing. So it's only right we got
together and really amplified this shit. What I'm saying, like
put in front of the people that need to really
see it. Ain't really nobody else to fuck it if
you want to level up, because like I was saying,

(52:25):
even not to cut you off earlier, it's just like
Rome is already Rome. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
It's not like I created Rome. Rome is fucking wrong,
you know what I'm saying. So it's just like he
already was nasty, he already was paying them dudes. It
was just like, and I've seen that, and I just
wanted that to be, you know, on a bigger scale.

(52:47):
I wanted like people to be able to the same
way people respecting me or Conway or Binny. I wanted
them to respect Rome, you feel me, because he deserved it.
So it's just like sometimes you just get together and
ain't connecting. You know, saw for the culture and for
the greater cause, and you know, once you just start building,
you become you know what I'm saying. Family, You know

(53:08):
what I'm saying. And now it's like it's just deeper
than musing out with everybody on this fucking couch. We
never made another song again, these my brothers, you know
what I mean. So that's what it is. It ain't
no we we It's no jealousy, it ain't money. We

(53:29):
all play out our own bags. Ain't nobody stepping on
nobody toes, you know what I mean. I love this
ship was prayed over all it's still gone. Like like
me and whom we big gonna just making sure like
guy first, the family, you know what I mean, Then
everything else is falling under that. That's the fact. What's

(53:51):
the fact, God, God, whatever with you? This is coming
before the end of the year. Sometimes I feel like
you just roll out of bed of it, grab name,
you think some stuff for real? Absolutely, I mean I tried.
It's always confident. I know one thing this year, I

(54:12):
don't slie my rap man. I don't want to be
on the list. I don't want to be on this
you know what. I'm sure last year really because last
just last year, Gun cursed me out while he was

(54:35):
in hospital. Legendary legendary loved it, you know, you know,
you know what I think. I called you one night
too at like three in the morning or some ship
too three in the morning. I was very very discs.
I try to try to take inventory every year of

(54:58):
who I think is you know, doing it the main
you underground. I try to do everybody. I do believe
there are people that are real players in again, and
some people that might not necessarily get the recognition. Like
I wouldn't put my homeboy down a block course, you know,
because I think he's nice. You know, I try to
take you know, a lot of factors into making it.
So like when I put you on there in twenty twenty,
I heard it during the pandemic from a lot of

(55:19):
colleagues and I was like, yeah, I gotta check this
guy out, and I heard it's blown away and that's
why I, you know, I had to put you how
to put you down appreciate so you know, everyone's not
gonna be happy, but you know, I just I just
try to just happy. Guns back in the program and
he's an MVP of the Wrapper Up podcast Westside gun Man.

(55:39):
I didn't did the ship, would run the Jewels, Black Star,
Google Dolls, which one? Yeah, I heard it all this ship,
Remember I remember you for real. But the thing is,
like I said, you know, I always I'll be looking

(56:02):
at the list, not because I'm not on it, but
I just sometimes I still see shit that I feel
shouldn't be you know what I'm saying, And I'd be like,
how it is this possible? Because you know, even even
like I said, you know, even last year, yo, I
dropped side eight and b that shit smoked everything, you

(56:24):
know what I'm saying, Like I did thirty records, like
thirty of us some shit you can't even skip. And
then they'd be like and then the year before that,
I did seven you know what I'm saying, and that
ship was like that, and they'd be like, like, I'm
I'm you know again, it don't even matter about being
the best rapper, but I do shade. I feel I'm
in the top five projects every year. You know what

(56:46):
I'm saying, Every single year, I'm in the top five
from a different you've seen it if I'm a different aspect.
Now how everybody else looking at it? They looking at
it like it's a popularity contest. You know, numbers game,
but we know the truth. We know who doing the
real numbers behind the scenes. That's why you get offended.
You like who really putting buckets up point ship at

(57:11):
the end of the day, who whole game eating? Who?
You know what I mean? Made millionaires out of a
bunch of cred snatching get up like this. We also
said one time, like go, but it's hard to too
because if you want to please, like okay, we still

(57:42):
we put the Richard out ship differently differently, no, but
like you see like to be like I remember before
you saying like, well they put cow and Benny in
the list, but you like, that's free slots right there,
there's ten on the things. So sometimes it's like you

(58:03):
want to spread the map so someone'st like the gifts
and the curse, right, because you have so many, I'm
gonna be project be honest with you, it should be
every year it should automatically be Conway and Benny Stove Roan,
what shy and then y'all could pick the other two

(58:27):
three more to goudside, two or three more artists that
are there there. You know we're about to do about
to keep going about to only get crazier. Though, what's
right about that? Because like you see about history, it's
like hip hops about a crew, right, like a crew,
like muniting, like being stronger? What's it about joining the crew?

(58:50):
And like why why why does that mean? What's Gizla
being to you in that sense? Um? Because to me,
it's like in this era, it's like how I look
that like rough Riders when I was young? You get
what I'm saying, Like how I looked at Rockefeller when
I was young. Like it's not just one unanimous favorite,
it's a group of everybody who could be a favorite.

(59:12):
You know what I'm saying, like we're just making history.
It's the same thing. We're literally doing the same thing
right now. This shit family though, just like the business
ship exactly know what I'm saying, It's exactly it's real
family ship, exactly family real. But the Benny joint right there,

(59:32):
classic and it's not even like this is like a
new one. This is the original, you know what I mean?
I made these what you know what I'm saying. Tenne
Thorpe three came out. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm like, yeah,
you know, I'll be mixing like the weird through certain

(59:57):
designers with ship that we design. Bro, you know, he
got the code his designs. I don't really like, you know,
I'd be keeping trying to keep as much of the
money in the fund and just say as much money
as I can't, you know, get the most bang for
my book when I money a gun. You also get

(01:00:19):
into the film world too. We talked about it earlier.
Got Aidolf coming then he also conflicted too, is that
coming next year? Yeah? Yeah, so you know what I'm saying.
We got the We got the short film version of Aidolf,
which tomorrow we're gonna having theaters out here in Miami.
You know what I'm saying, Um, but it's gonna continue.

(01:00:39):
You know what I'm saying, into like a full length movie.
You know what I'm saying, a real you know, feature film,
you know, with soundtrack. You know what I'm saying, Gangster grill,
with drama. You know what I'm saying. It is just
gonna be you know classic. You know what I'm saying that.
You know it's gonna be one of them soundtracks where
it was like, you know, a death Road did abut
the rim? You know what I'm saying. It's just like
all of us. You know how people be wanting like

(01:01:02):
a Grizelda compilation, Like this is gonna be like the
Griselda compilation. You know what I'm saying of just like
all of us getting together. It might just be Stove
and Boldy. It might be our money and why In.
It might be all of us. It might be roaming.
You know what I'm saying, why In? You know what
I mean. It might be Conway and Benny. It might
be Benny and Stove. You's know what I'm saying. It

(01:01:24):
might be all of us. It's like, you know, we're
just we're just having fun, like I said, man, we
just you know, I'm super blessed. We all super blessed.
We know that we all family, ain't we ain't know
none of that shit, you know what I'm saying. And um,
of course we're doing what you know, she ain't gonna
do too. Meet Conway and Benny by the way, Yeah

(01:01:45):
for sure, Okay, yeah, for sure, for sure a million percent.
You know what I'm saying. See, that's the thing man,
when I when I say, this ship has already written,
this ship is, this ship is protected by God himself.
Like people want me and Conway. People see this and
be like, see it ain't no more west side Conway
and Benny. No, that's not the case. Benny just got

(01:02:08):
a situation today with the Buffalo Bills. And we're about
to see Conway when we leave here because he got
something that was going on. It's not like you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, we all doing what we gotta do,
you know what I'm saying. And guess what being sept
their family. You know what I'm saying. You know, love
and skis over that drum work, goose, that's family. Like
these is all people that I've known way before. You know,

(01:02:31):
Hitler one came out of Griselda Records was even thought of.
I knew these people for real in life. So it's
just like, you know, this is we family, you know
what I mean. It just is what it is. And
I think the culture is ready, you know, for us
three to get back together, you know what I'm saying.
And I don't know exactly what it's gonna be, but
we didn't already discuss it and were ready, you know

(01:02:53):
what I'm saying. It's just about timing, you know what
I'm saying, because I'm about to do my first European too.
I've never been on a European too, or you know
what I'm saying, So this is about to be big
to just travel, you know what I'm say, to start
traveling the world and just seeing different cultures and meeting
different people and people that can't even speak English but
they know the words. And I'm ready to see all that,

(01:03:13):
you know what I'm saying. Like, that's that's something that
I'm looking forward to, and I'm gonna I'm gonna start
the year off like that, just top of the year
with that energy and just come back and just make music.
I feel like that's the energy I need to start off,
you know, do fashion Week because my first show is
an Amsterdam and then it starts again the week after

(01:03:34):
in Paris and then it goes from there. So I
just feel like just the energy of us out there
in Paris and then we just go from there and
we're gonna be making music corner because I'm gonna bring
the equipment. So while we you know what I'm saying,
we might got three four days off between this show
and that show. That's when we're working on Stove album.
That's when we're working. That's when we're working on you

(01:03:56):
something saying Michelle Records is like, you know, we not
gonna start working. I'm gonna take the studio on the
road with us, So we're not you know, we got
plenty of time to just keep cooking and keep touching
the people. You know what I'm saying, Because again it's
it's it's it's not even about the money, you know
what I'm saying. You know, it's just about really just
spreading the culture man, just doing it the right way,

(01:04:19):
doing something that's never been done before. You know, we
get the respect from like every legend you could positively,
I don't think it's a legend that's walking that ain't
really give us our flowers yet. And that says a lot.
You know what I'm saying. That says a lot because
you know a lot of people don't. And I'm talking
about publicly, like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, like
they you know they you know, you ask Woo Yo.

(01:04:41):
You know, anybody could compare us to Oh Griselda, You
ask the Locks. Anybody could compare with you? Ask you
know what I'm saying. You ask any of these people,
They're gonna say us every time. You know what I'm saying.
So that just lets you know, you know what we've
been doing. And like I said, man, just for me
to be able to have a song with d Max,
you know, rest in Peace with Doom, Recipeace with Prodigy,

(01:05:04):
you know, Recipece with Sean Price, rest in Peace like
I didn't make. I didn't made records with all these guys. Man,
that's crazy. That's crazy if you think about it, that's crazy.
You see what I'm saying. So it's like I didn't
came like I said, I came up here to last
times with whole vein like I've been around like the
Falling Soldiers. That was really pushing the culture for these

(01:05:26):
is people I learned from, like I'm from, I'm a
product of these guys. People can't say they did shit
with Doom stop it. People can't say they did You
know who Sean Price is. You know what I'm saying.
Prodigy is fucking DMX is Like, this is who I
have records with, these guys. I'm nominated for Grammy right
now on Mary Jay Shit nominated. Still be in the

(01:05:50):
fucking east Side, Buffalo Students. This is different out of here, man,
It's different. New year definitely. The Raperator podcast m Yeah,
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