Welcome to episode 66 of Rapaport's Reality! Starring Kebe & Michael Rapaport. This is the reality television podcast that the whole reality world has been waiting for. The Rapaport's are here to discuss:
Recording this episode in West Hollywood
Jax Taylor being off The Valley Season 3
Charles Oakley on Real Housewives of Atlanta
Let Schena Shay Live
Maratha Stewart & Billy Joel Documentary Reccomendation
Team Denise Richards
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
We are recording this from West Hollywood, down the street
from where vander Pump Rules started. This show is about
people in their forties trying to figure out their lives,
and I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, I'm just so concerned about the reboot of Vander.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Pot Shemiah and Porsche. That's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
That's a problem. They're not they're not speaking.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
They're done.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
The Martha Stewart documentary on Netflix is excellent and she
is a motherfucker and I love it, need too. I
love a bad.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Ass such I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm apologetic.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Be you do you, Charlie Sheen right now seems like
the same one right now, Right now, it's a race.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It seems like okay.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He seems like he's a fairness.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
He's had a lot of years to get okay.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
He seems like he's quote unquote winning.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Two Hello Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Hello.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Rap Aports Reality. My name is Michael Rappaport.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I am kV Rapaport.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And this is Rapaport's Reality, the podcast where myself, Michael
Rapport and my Way Way Better Half Kibi Rappaport discuss
all things reality TV, all things pop culture, and a
few things about our relationship. If you've never listened to
Rappaport's Reality, welcome, please subscribe rate review. Also, you could
(01:32):
follow us on Instagram at Rappaport's Reality. We are recording
this fantastic. I could tell this is going to be
a fantastic episode.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Feeling energized.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I drank some beautiful coffee delicious.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't know what it was, Roundworks organic Nitro, cold blue.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
That's some La coffee. We are recording this from West Hollywood,
down the street, down the street from where vander Pump
Rules started. Think about that. Yeah, I I personally like
when I want drive by pump rolls? And what was
it called? What was the original? I had this problem
the other day. What was the original restaurant called?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Why are you doing this to me all the time?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Sir, sir?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, it's down yesterday, babe, yesterday, driving here, I passed Jacks.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Did you really you saw it?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I saw Jack's the actual sign Jack's.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It kind of gave me a little like a little butterfly,
A little butterfly.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
How are you just?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I know?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I forgot to tell you last night, I.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Would have been if I know.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I know well, I almost asked Meredith. I was like,
can we just stop by for iced tea? She wouldn't
she wouldn't have got it because she didn't watch. But yeah,
it was impressive to see Jacks in person, even though
I've seen that place before.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It used to be Roccos or whatever. But it was
cool to see.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well. Speaking of Jack's Jax Taylor is officially off the
vander Pump Rules season three as of now. Things could change,
things could change.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It has to change.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I hope, well, things could change where he comes back.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
No, that's what I mean. I want it to change
it where he comes back.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I've been thinking a lot about it, and you know
how I feel about him.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, catch people up on how you feel about it.
I just think that because there's some listeners that are
listening for the first time, they might go, how does
KEEBI actually feel about Jacks. He's a very polarizing figure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He is, and I'll be the first to say bye
goodbye Jacks.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
But I looking.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
At the show from a overview, over the top view,
I feel like he's needed because he's sort of the
villain narrator because everything revolves around him going away, coming back,
getting himself together. I mean, he's got the biggest storyline,
you know. I hate to give it to him because
(03:59):
he thinks he's an one guy. He's also said on
this show it's my show, as he said on vander Pump,
which is like out of control.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But he's kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Right, and I'm saying it. He's actually right.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Listen. I say this all the time. I think Jacks
is a flawed person. I get literally stressed out watching
him on the show. I get concerned for his safety.
I get concerned for Britney safety. I get concerned for
like he just seems you know, off the uh what
are they the off the tracks, off the off the rails,
off the rails. That being said, this show The Valley
(04:35):
is so different than any other show on Bravo. It's
not the darkest reality TV show because when you think
about TLC. I was talking to Dean the other day,
friend Dean the Young Shooter, uh, part time sometime co
host of the Iron Rapport serial podcast, which is the
big brother to this podcast Rapports Reality, and he was
(04:57):
talking to me about the What's the Addiction show on
TLC Intervention. He was telling me about an episode and
he watches that all the time, and I was like, you.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I used to be obsessed with that show. I can't
watch it's too much in hoards.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Like that's this is a different type of docu style
reality show.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yes, yeah, but as far as Brova, this is definitely
the darkest show on Bravo. TLC does a different thing,
and of course there's other channels. That being said, it
is what it is. It's not going to get lighter.
They don't need to infuse games and were like like
little picnics and all stuff. This show is about people
in their forties trying to figure out their lives. And
(05:35):
I think it's great, yeah, for what it is. It's
just you have to sort of change your expectations of
what you were used to on Bravo. It's not Below Deck.
It's not Below Deck down Under.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's not Housewives of Miami right.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And vander Pump Rules. It's darkest vander Pump Rules got
It's It's certainly ain't Summerhouse. It's not Southern Charm, And
even though Southern Charm had some dark themes this season.
That being said, I agree, I think that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I mean, honestly, Babe, close your eyes and imagine watching
the Valley without the character of Jack's.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Present or looming or away. Three guy.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He's the guy, like he says, I'm the number one guy.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, the show needs that character to drive it where
people are bothered by Otherwise it will be Janet, and
I don't Janet doesn't have the legs that he has
in terms of the historic presence that Jacks has, so
I would hate to see him go permanently. I think
this may be just a limited time where things got
(06:32):
a little out of control.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
He needs a break.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
They are allegedly filming now or about to start filming,
so I could understand why coming off of this season,
because you know they'll film now and then the show
will come out in nine months, right, So if things
are two nuts right now during filming, I get it.
We always feel like it's happening in real time, which
(06:54):
obviously it's not. It happens, you know, nine months ago,
or sometimes even a year ago. Anyway, you had the
honor of driving by Jack's barr. I don't know how
you've held that from me.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I also ate at Cosa Vega, where I think they
filmed one of the episodes. I was tired when I
came home. But listen, also, we're very close to the Belmont,
and I was just thinking where they used to chill, right,
vander Pump people used to do and I was thinking
I saw something about a few of the cast members
coming out of sir uh huh. I didn't recognize any
(07:27):
of them. I'm just so concerned about the reboot of
vander Pump.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Oh, like, what do we know A date? I don't know.
I don't know, I don't know. You talk about big
shoes to fill you. I know, that's the best reality
TV show ever. I put it up against any show
of all time. Yeah, it's if you put the body
of work, the cast, the evolution, the cultural impact, vander
Pump rules, it'll be a totally different show. Listen, these
(07:56):
younger people and these younger people that are on TV,
whether it's Love Island, whether it's the random rules of
reboot the Love Island reality show, which I can't do.
You know, it's gonna change, It's inevitably gonna change, and
that's why we have to enjoy what we have while
we have it. We finished up the season of Atlanta
(08:17):
the Real Housewives of Atlanta, I will say, as fractured
as the season was, at the end of episode three
of the reunion, it did feel like if this group
maybe with you know, you add a person, you put
a person, this group can do a show going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think so. I think it did come together in
the end. There's some understanding. Although you know, shout out
to uh oak Oak.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
My god, you love them. They talk about another guy.
It's like, this is this is a different this is
a different kind of dude. This is an talk about
a throwback. Yeah, oh yeahs not a modern man. This
is an old school This is like somebody.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
If you did the thing for modern man like that
and then it stopped. He stops there.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah he's pretty funny, but you know what, like he said,
where's everybody else's husband? On the reunion, he showed up
for Angela, and I really appreciate that showed up because
during the season he kind of looks like, well, I
don't know, some couples are like that. I mean when
we were together, when we were younger, you didn't like
to hold hands because you were kind of a street guy.
You needed your hands free in case something happened. He's
(09:22):
that guy right like where he doesn't want to kiss
in front of people.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
He's not trying to look.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Kiss you on TV.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I kiss you in real life, right right.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I will say this about Charles Oakley. He came off
the way he came off. I know it was for me.
I was tripping out off of I know it tripped
you out. Yeah, I know people online were tripping out
off for Charles Oakley. But like you said, he did
show up at the reunion. He did say where your
husband's at? And he is the way he is and
he stood up for her at the end. And something
(09:53):
that didn't come up on the show is that when
I did The Big Three, where I was the sideline
reporter for the Big.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Three, which was ice Cube's basketball league that he started.
It's televised and they go in cities and it's ex
pro player.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yes, right, Doctor J.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Charles Oakley three on three basketball.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Every city we went in every morning before the games,
Charles Oakley would go and cook for the homeless. And
he didn't make a big deal about it. There was
no press. He didn't talk about it unless you asked him.
I remember he was telling me about it because I
was like, did you work out this morning? Or why
didn't you go to practice? And he was like, I
was cooking And I was like, for who, what do
you mean? And he was telling me I went cooked
(10:32):
for three hundred people. And he doesn't make a big
deal about it. So as flawed as he is and
as much as he comes off as a prick or
like just you know, not nice, and I'm not saying
he's perfect, he's certainly not perfect. I mean, we all
saw what happened in Madison Square Garden. We all saw
him on this season of Real Housewise in Atlanta. He
does do some really really good things and Eric look
(10:55):
ask or even take any attention or credit.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Which is how you're supposed to give right.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Totally, So, I mean Real Housewives of Atlanta, like I said,
we were having problems with it. I was very very
concerned about it. But I feel like if Shemiah and Porsche,
that's going to be a problem, that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
They're not they're not speaking.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
They're done.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, that really sucks.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I mean, they go way back and on the third
part of the reunion, they sort of delved into what
their parents. Their mothers both had beef yep, and then
SHEMI was like, oh, we're.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Not going to go there, and she was like, you
were going to go there, and it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Just it's ugly when that kind of parents get involved.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I hope there's some healing that can come between them,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It doesn't look.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like it, but that show will be okay, And because
those women, as funky as it gets, they're just fun
entertaining and they are real. Even if they're not keeping
it all the way real, they keep it real enough
for the show, which is one of the things that
you know, people talk about with Sheena. She her book tour.
Of course, she's been scrutinized because she came out in
(12:00):
her book and she talked about that her husband Brock
cheated on her, and people were saying, well, why didn't
you use that on the show? And I go, you
know what, why would you? Yeah, you're giving enough. It's
hard enough to be cheated on by your husband. You
don't have to put that on the show for our pleasure.
And I think if she had put it on the show,
they probably wouldn't be in the place that they're in now.
(12:22):
So is it fully real. Never You're never gonna get
the full real deal from anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
On shore, should it be.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
No, it's like we got to play within the parameters
and you gotta still a job.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I mean, would you go to your job at the
post office and talk about your bowel movements and every
little detail about your kids? You know, I just don't
think that it's necessary for them to share everything like that.
And also enough, like she said, it would have made
you know, she was kind of trying to hold onto
the narrative of like, oh, everything's always about her at
this tremultuous time and a scandal like it was, and
(12:56):
she came up and said, hey, listen, guys, I got
a scandal too.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I don't think that it would have worked out for anybody.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You don't need to share that shit. You don't need
to go that far, especially when you're talking about marriage
and kids and all that. And it's good for her.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
She saved it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
She saved it for now, and it's gonna make her
book do really well exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That's a sign of a good business woman.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Let sheena see live. These people deserve grace. You can't
forget and take for granted the amount of entertainment that
these people have given us. Jax, we use a fucking lunatic.
We know that she Anda Shae. She didn't tell us
that Broc cheated, nor would anybody let she and Shade live.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, I agree, we loved, loved, loved.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Surprisingly, Kibi turned on the other day the Martha Stewart documentary.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
On a whim because it's been out for a while.
I know we're late to the game, but.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
The Martha Stewart documentary on Netflix is excellent. I didn't
know the details, obviously, everybody knows who Martha Stewart is,
and I knew she went to jail, and I knew
that she was the home decor home you know, she
turned like you know, home entertainment into art. And but
this documentary is very very well done and she is
(14:21):
a motherfucker And I love it me too.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I love a bad assit. I love it apologetic, that's right,
that's right. Be you do you And she.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Was flawed and some of the things she's asking about, like,
you know, her her husband's were cheating on her, and
she talked about that, and then she talks about cheating
on them, and they're like, would you call it an
affair and she's like, I wouldn't call it an affair,
I'd call it a kiss, and I'm like kiss experience. Yeah.
But the way she speaks and the way she articulates
herself and the way she's totally herself and keeps it
(14:56):
real despite how cold and crass and flawed it come off,
I fucking love it.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I do too. I have no problems with it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I feel like she's a woman who's earned her stripes
and she's in her body.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
This is what I like, I respect about. It's like,
you know, talk about like everybody was like a queen,
a queen, a queen.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, she's in her body, she's in her truth, and
she does not flinch, and I respect it.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I was totally inspired me too by that.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You felt similar after watching that documentary as like Mobland, right, Yes,
I love the Redemption.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, because because she was she was a victim she
was taking advantage of, and she was taken advantage of
because she was a powerful she's the first female billionaire.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I know, it's big, huge, and you.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Know they brought her down she was for something that
she shouldn't have been brought down for. I mean, I
thought she had went to jail for a longer period
of time. It was five months, I think, which you know,
in hindsight isn't that long. But I mean the scrutiny
and the shame and the embarrassment and what she was
going through and the vitual to bring her down was disgusting.
(16:02):
And so many other people, especially rich successful billionaire men,
would have gotten away with it and never gotten to jail,
and they wanted to make an example of her also
because she's fame. But I just love you know, she
did the crime, she did her time. She came back
and she kept on going. She keeps on going, and
you forget, like anytime you get flowers that are arranged,
(16:25):
you know beautiful, every time you have like a chartrudery plate,
anytime you know there's linen like. She was not the first,
but she was certainly the first to bring it to
like you know, pop main stream and make.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
It simple and affordable for other people to do. And
you don't have to have a lot of money to
have beauty, yes, and do things beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I love that. You should highly recommend the Martha Stewart
documentary if you have me too. I think she's dope.
I love women that just fucking do it their way,
because so many men that are documented do it their
way and they're flawed and fucked up and drinking. Which
brings me to the other documentary which you just watched,
which is five hours long two parts, little long for
(17:06):
my taste.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
But little slow at times.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But the Billy Joel documentary on HBO is also excellent
about another flaw.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Fucking god god person.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean the things I did it and I love
Billy Joel and the things about him that we discovered.
I was like, wow, that's a lot. It almost I
was almost pissed at some of it. I was like,
I can't watch this anymore. But I stuck with it,
and I'm glad I did. And what a talented, talented individual.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And this documentary talks about, I mean, we forget or
you don't know what it took to become Billy Joel,
what it took to become the piano man. I love
when he's breaking down how the thing that I love
the most about it is when he's breaking down how
he creates these monumental, historic popular culture songs and he
(17:56):
tells the stories and they're so simple, but he makes
these songs like I Love you just the way you are.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, that song is.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So quote unquote corny because it's so so simple and
so simple, and it's been used. It's been mocked, you
cry at it, It's been used in comedies, it's been
used in.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
He didn't want to write a song that was just
going to be in web at everybody's wedding.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
And sure enough is that everybody's wedding, that's right. And
the fucking guy would come up with one song after
another song, after another song after another giant song. And
the stories about the piano man and the stories about
when he at the height of his career, when he
got into it a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And in a car accident.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I mean, this guy has had one lifetime after another
and still rise to the top.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
He's lost millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Crazy too.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I mean that the story is a redemptive story, a
creative story, a cultural story perseverance.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yes, it's it's a highly recommend and.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Just you forget that at the beginning of MTV, when
MTV started those videos, he was one of the first
people's like Michael Jackson, ZZ Top, you know, Madonna, Billy Joel,
like he was in that sphere of pop pop culture,
guys you could not get away from, and when he
(19:17):
married Christy Brinkley and the Uptown Girl and that whole
paparazzi lunatic crazy time where they were chasing him around.
It's a great documentary, a little long, but very very
well done and worth your time to watch the Billy
Joel documentary, which you could watch on HBO, and of
course the Martha Stewart documentary which is on Netflix. Both
(19:40):
of them two thumbs up and a great summer viewing,
because I feel like as great as July was for
reality TV, it's gonna slow down a little bit before
it picks up again in August. I think August is
the time where it chills. And those are both two
great documentaries you could watch. Like I said at the
(20:08):
beginning of this episode, we are back in Los Angeles, California,
where Kibi's from. Yes, whole time in.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
New York Dennis Beach, California.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
How do you feel we just got here? How do
you feel being in La Do.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
You can't wait to get home?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I gotta be honest, you know, I have a lot
of good friends here and so many great memories I
spent a lot of time in Los Angeles, and I'm
not one of those people that's like, like, I like LA,
but there's just something about it now that I don't know,
there's like a little pep in its step that I
feel like it's gone.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I have listen, I've lived everywhere, and like, I've lived
in the Valley, I've lived in by the Beach, I've
lived Hancock Park.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
We've been all over and driving.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Through yesterday, I was like, oh, I have a memory
at every single stoplight, you know what I mean, and
sometimes you just got to move on.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. You know, I'm happy to
be here for the week, and I'm happy to be
down the street from sir, and I'm happy to be,
you know, close to all things. You know, vander pump Rules.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well, god, it's not that hot, because that's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's definitely not that hot. But I don't miss living
here full time. I'm glad that we have moved out
of Los Angeles and live in New York City, which
is still the greatest city on the planet despite its flaws.
Another story that we must talk about, and I gotta
pat ourselves on the back because we did on this
(21:43):
podcast shout out how great Denise Richards was on the
previous season of Special Forces. We did say, even if
you just watch her few episodes on Special Forces, it's
well worth your time. It is documented she was great.
(22:04):
I don't know how the fuck they convinced Denise Richards
to do Special Forces, which is a great, fun reality
TV show based on the casting. Also the fact that
they get these people to do I mean, I don't
some of those stunts they had them jumping off bridges
and all that shit seems crazy, but they somehow someone
got Denise Ridges out there.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And well, now we know that she got out there
and she was encouraged to be there because allegedly the
affair that she's had on Aaron, her current husband, was
with one of the Special Forces guys.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Now we're still team Denise, yes, and we did stand
up for Denise. But if this stuff that Aaron, her
soon to be ex husband, is saying, and listen, we're
still gonna be team Denise because if it's also true
that Aaron put hands on her, Aaron, You're a fuck.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
We don't support that any way, shape or form. Any way,
shape or form, but this relationship, let's just say, is complicated.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Complicated because from what it looks like, it's it shouldn't happen.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They got to get away from each other.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
This is this is toxicity beyond I mean, and the
stuff he's putting out there, Aaron, Aaron is wild. I mean,
he put out all their text messages and the text
message for each other and her and the guy from
Special Forces.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
There's a guy on Special Forces. There's a few guys.
They're like Navy seal, like you.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Know, honey, like yeah, you know, and allegedly, allegedly, allegedly
you got to say, allegedly, at least three times, allegedly,
Denise Richards was having an affair with one of these
guys from Special Forces, and somehow, some way Aaron got
hold of the texts and the photos.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It's in the Daily Mail. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
He accuses her of being on pills and she gets
five hundred of them at a time and she mixes
them with to keep I mean, it's terrible the things
he's saying, allegedly, allegedly.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Allegedly, yeah, we don't even know if he's saying. I
don't like.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Talking about this kind of dark stuff. I really don't
because this is serious business. You know, they have a
daughter that's special needs, and if the mother's doing this
kind of stuff while having the dog, this is all
gets very dark. And this is this is where I
like to, you know, turn right.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But we still are team Denise. And like I said,
if you want something to watch, you could at least
watch the few episodes of Denise Richards on the last
season of Special Forces. And now I almost kind of
want to rewatch it because her interaction.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
It was short lived her time on there.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
A she tried and she got injured. She ruined her her.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Breast, she popped a breast and plant.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Trying to do a stunt. She I mean, she was
out there fucking competing.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
She was trying, she was trying hard.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
She looked very earnest, like she needed but maybe she
now that we know what we know. She wanted to
stay on the show because she wanted to stay close
to old hunky guy.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
But that relationship is nuts and it's nuts.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You saw that it was nuts on The Housewives when
we first that relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I never got a good feeling for me.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Right never ever. Ever, No, I don't think anyone did.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
No, he didn't give a good feeling. But it's wild
that between Aaron Denise Richard's Charlie Sheen right now seems
like the same one right now, right now, it's a race.
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Seems like Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
He seems like he's a due fairness.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
He's had a lot of years to get Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
He seems like he's quote unquote winning. He seems like
he is winning. And that story, that.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Last scene that he was on when we watched The
wild Thing Show and he was on there, we said,
this is the show, like and they were sitting having
a little dinner and their interaction. Now the subtext of
that relationship given where we allegedly believe she is allegedly
allegedly how he was treating her, looking at her with
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like a side eye, like I used to be the one,
now you're the one. Yeah, it makes sense now, babe.
You know, we actually skipped over something very very important.
Charles Oakley dated charae.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
That's a big thing that like, come on, let me
tell you something. Personally, I mean, I don't know if
the world knows how we feel about Chara. She's one
of my favorites by Charie. She by Charay, who gonna
check me boo? Her shade game is crazy. Also, I
loved the last season that she was on. I didn't
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like how she was treated, but I loved how vulnerable
she was in that bad relationship with that guy. I
didn't like that she was in that situation, but I like,
I love reality stars when they show growth, change and vulnerability.
And Charay is a shade shit talk.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
She showed us everything and she's given us everything and
boy is she funny. But yes, he uh, why is
she not on the show? I don't know this is this?
She is a big missing piece. But anyway, that information
was like, whoa. I could see them together actually and.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Bringing her back now after the fact that Angeloakley she
earned she's staying. Yes, I agree again Angela Ley.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
In the beginning, I felt uncomfortable about their dynamic because
it just seemed like he didn't want to be there
in any And also, it's usually a kiss of death
for a couple when they get on the show and
one is not down because you're exposing a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
One is exposing, the other isn't.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It's like it gets really tricky and I would hate
to see a divorce come from the show, right.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Said, I don't know if the show could help fix
stop what's going to happen with them. I don't know.
I wish them the best. It usually doesn't help, no,
especially the way Mamie and Oaka is working out. But
that being said, Charre Whitfield, the great Chari Whitfield, knowing
that she dated Truce, could.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Not come back on the show of Angela's why Not show?
I don't know. I don't know. That would just be
messy up.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Why is she not on this show?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Take her for granted. They really do Traders. No, she
wasn't on Traders, like a season of Traders.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Oh wait, maybe she was.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I feel like she was on the second season of Traders. No,
Spadia was second season, second season, four seasons.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, No, I don't think Chara's underrated.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I feel like she was on something yo we yo.
I love shar her.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
If she wasn't maybe she was on Trader. I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I think that this is the wild that these two
dated uh before. But I gotta tell you, I don't
think she could come back, come back.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I think she can come back, and I think that
it's out in the open that they dated and he
said she doesn't want him. They're like, they're cool, Yeah,
they're cool.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, I think great.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I think that the show needs Charae to come back,
and I think she deserves to be back on the show.
I don't know why they're always taking her off, kicking her.
She doesn't do anything too crazy, that's not.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Like no, I know, it's very strange.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
They also said that Kenya Moore is not coming back ever,
No for now.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
See. I think that Kenya Moore, whether or not it's
next season or the season after, I believe in Redemption
and she's given so much to that show. I'm sure
she feels like shit, yeah, the way it happened, I'm
sure she regrets what she did. I don't know if
they can't bring her back because there might be a lawsuit.
But Kenya Moore, I just believe that people deserve chances.
(29:28):
And when you put so much into the show, and
you've given so much, whether you like.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
It, whether you don't, show I built the show.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, yeah, yeah, both of them. Yeah, And I feel like,
you know, like especially Kenya, who was there through all
of it and showed, you know, the good, bad and
everything in between. She twirled she deserves to come back.
Maybe she won't come back on the next season, but
maybe she'll come back on the season afterwards. But I
think bringing those two back right now would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And would you keep would you keep keeping?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's not coming back, no run it, but with the
crew that was at the reunion, and add Kenya Moore,
although I've already heard that Kenya Moore isn't coming back anyway,
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We're done. Love you, babe, baby,
We are recording this from West Hollywood, down the street
from where vander Pump Rules started. This show is about
people in their forties trying to figure out their lives,
and I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, I'm just so concerned about the reboot of Vander.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Pot Shemiah and Porsche. That's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
That's a problem. They're not they're not speaking.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
They're done.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
The Martha Stewart documentary on Netflix is excellent and she
is a motherfucker and I love it, need too. I
love a bad.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Ass such I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm apologetic.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Be you do you, Charlie Sheen right now seems like
the same one right now, Right now, it's a race.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It seems like okay.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He seems like he's a fairness.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
He's had a lot of years to get okay.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
He seems like he's quote unquote winning.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Two Hello Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Hello.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
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Speaker 1 (01:10):
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this fantastic. I could tell this is going to be
a fantastic episode.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Feeling energized.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I drank some beautiful coffee delicious.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I don't know what it was, Roundworks organic Nitro, cold blue.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
That's some La coffee. We are recording this from West Hollywood,
down the street, down the street from where vander Pump
Rules started. Think about that. Yeah, I I personally like
when I want drive by pump rolls? And what was
it called? What was the original? I had this problem
the other day. What was the original restaurant called?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Why are you doing this to me all the time?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Sir, sir?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, it's down yesterday, babe, yesterday, driving here, I passed Jacks.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Did you really you saw it?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I saw Jack's the actual sign Jack's.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It kind of gave me a little like a little butterfly,
A little butterfly.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
How are you just?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I know?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I forgot to tell you last night, I.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Would have been if I know.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I know well, I almost asked Meredith. I was like,
can we just stop by for iced tea? She wouldn't
she wouldn't have got it because she didn't watch. But yeah,
it was impressive to see Jacks in person, even though
I've seen that place before.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It used to be Roccos or whatever. But it was
cool to see.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well. Speaking of Jack's Jax Taylor is officially off the
vander Pump Rules season three as of now. Things could change,
things could change.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It has to change.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I hope, well, things could change where he comes back.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
No, that's what I mean. I want it to change
it where he comes back.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I've been thinking a lot about it, and you know
how I feel about him.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, catch people up on how you feel about it.
I just think that because there's some listeners that are
listening for the first time, they might go, how does
KEEBI actually feel about Jacks. He's a very polarizing figure.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He is, and I'll be the first to say bye
goodbye Jacks.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
But I looking.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
At the show from a overview, over the top view,
I feel like he's needed because he's sort of the
villain narrator because everything revolves around him going away, coming back,
getting himself together. I mean, he's got the biggest storyline,
you know. I hate to give it to him because
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he thinks he's an one guy. He's also said on
this show it's my show, as he said on vander Pump,
which is like out of control.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But he's kind of.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Right, and I'm saying it. He's actually right.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Listen. I say this all the time. I think Jacks
is a flawed person. I get literally stressed out watching
him on the show. I get concerned for his safety.
I get concerned for Britney safety. I get concerned for
like he just seems you know, off the uh what
are they the off the tracks, off the off the rails,
off the rails. That being said, this show The Valley
(04:35):
is so different than any other show on Bravo. It's
not the darkest reality TV show because when you think
about TLC. I was talking to Dean the other day,
friend Dean the Young Shooter, uh, part time sometime co
host of the Iron Rapport serial podcast, which is the
big brother to this podcast Rapports Reality, and he was
(04:57):
talking to me about the What's the Addiction show on
TLC Intervention. He was telling me about an episode and
he watches that all the time, and I was like, you.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I used to be obsessed with that show. I can't
watch it's too much in hoards.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Like that's this is a different type of docu style
reality show.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yes, yeah, but as far as Brova, this is definitely
the darkest show on Bravo. TLC does a different thing,
and of course there's other channels. That being said, it
is what it is. It's not going to get lighter.
They don't need to infuse games and were like like
little picnics and all stuff. This show is about people
in their forties trying to figure out their lives. And
(05:35):
I think it's great, yeah, for what it is. It's
just you have to sort of change your expectations of
what you were used to on Bravo. It's not Below Deck.
It's not Below Deck down Under.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's not Housewives of Miami right.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
And vander Pump Rules. It's darkest vander Pump Rules got
It's It's certainly ain't Summerhouse. It's not Southern Charm, And
even though Southern Charm had some dark themes this season.
That being said, I agree, I think that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I mean, honestly, Babe, close your eyes and imagine watching
the Valley without the character of Jack's.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Present or looming or away. Three guy.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He's the guy, like he says, I'm the number one guy.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, the show needs that character to drive it where
people are bothered by Otherwise it will be Janet, and
I don't Janet doesn't have the legs that he has
in terms of the historic presence that Jacks has, so
I would hate to see him go permanently. I think
this may be just a limited time where things got
(06:32):
a little out of control.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
He needs a break.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
They are allegedly filming now or about to start filming,
so I could understand why coming off of this season,
because you know they'll film now and then the show
will come out in nine months, right, So if things
are two nuts right now during filming, I get it.
We always feel like it's happening in real time, which
(06:54):
obviously it's not. It happens, you know, nine months ago,
or sometimes even a year ago. Anyway, you had the
honor of driving by Jack's barr. I don't know how
you've held that from me.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I also ate at Cosa Vega, where I think they
filmed one of the episodes. I was tired when I
came home. But listen, also, we're very close to the Belmont,
and I was just thinking where they used to chill, right,
vander Pump people used to do and I was thinking
I saw something about a few of the cast members
coming out of sir uh huh. I didn't recognize any
(07:27):
of them. I'm just so concerned about the reboot of
vander Pump.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Oh, like, what do we know A date? I don't know.
I don't know, I don't know. You talk about big
shoes to fill you. I know, that's the best reality
TV show ever. I put it up against any show
of all time. Yeah, it's if you put the body
of work, the cast, the evolution, the cultural impact, vander
Pump rules, it'll be a totally different show. Listen, these
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younger people and these younger people that are on TV,
whether it's Love Island, whether it's the random rules of
reboot the Love Island reality show, which I can't do.
You know, it's gonna change, It's inevitably gonna change, and
that's why we have to enjoy what we have while
we have it. We finished up the season of Atlanta
(08:17):
the Real Housewives of Atlanta, I will say, as fractured
as the season was, at the end of episode three
of the reunion, it did feel like if this group
maybe with you know, you add a person, you put
a person, this group can do a show going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think so. I think it did come together in
the end. There's some understanding. Although you know, shout out
to uh oak Oak.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
My god, you love them. They talk about another guy.
It's like, this is this is a different this is
a different kind of dude. This is an talk about
a throwback. Yeah, oh yeahs not a modern man. This
is an old school This is like somebody.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
If you did the thing for modern man like that
and then it stopped. He stops there.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah he's pretty funny, but you know what, like he said,
where's everybody else's husband? On the reunion, he showed up
for Angela, and I really appreciate that showed up because
during the season he kind of looks like, well, I
don't know, some couples are like that. I mean when
we were together, when we were younger, you didn't like
to hold hands because you were kind of a street guy.
You needed your hands free in case something happened. He's
(09:22):
that guy right like where he doesn't want to kiss
in front of people.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
He's not trying to look.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Kiss you on TV.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I kiss you in real life, right right.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I will say this about Charles Oakley. He came off
the way he came off. I know it was for me.
I was tripping out off of I know it tripped
you out. Yeah, I know people online were tripping out
off for Charles Oakley. But like you said, he did
show up at the reunion. He did say where your
husband's at? And he is the way he is and
he stood up for her at the end. And something
(09:53):
that didn't come up on the show is that when
I did The Big Three, where I was the sideline
reporter for the Big.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Three, which was ice Cube's basketball league that he started.
It's televised and they go in cities and it's ex
pro player.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yes, right, Doctor J.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Charles Oakley three on three basketball.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Every city we went in every morning before the games,
Charles Oakley would go and cook for the homeless. And
he didn't make a big deal about it. There was
no press. He didn't talk about it unless you asked him.
I remember he was telling me about it because I
was like, did you work out this morning? Or why
didn't you go to practice? And he was like, I
was cooking And I was like, for who, what do
you mean? And he was telling me I went cooked
(10:32):
for three hundred people. And he doesn't make a big
deal about it. So as flawed as he is and
as much as he comes off as a prick or
like just you know, not nice, and I'm not saying
he's perfect, he's certainly not perfect. I mean, we all
saw what happened in Madison Square Garden. We all saw
him on this season of Real Housewise in Atlanta. He
does do some really really good things and Eric look
(10:55):
ask or even take any attention or credit.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Which is how you're supposed to give right.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Totally, So, I mean Real Housewives of Atlanta, like I said,
we were having problems with it. I was very very
concerned about it. But I feel like if Shemiah and Porsche,
that's going to be a problem, that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
They're not they're not speaking.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
They're done.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, that really sucks.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I mean, they go way back and on the third
part of the reunion, they sort of delved into what
their parents. Their mothers both had beef yep, and then
SHEMI was like, oh, we're.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Not going to go there, and she was like, you
were going to go there, and it.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Just it's ugly when that kind of parents get involved.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I hope there's some healing that can come between them,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It doesn't look.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like it, but that show will be okay, And because
those women, as funky as it gets, they're just fun
entertaining and they are real. Even if they're not keeping
it all the way real, they keep it real enough
for the show, which is one of the things that
you know, people talk about with Sheena. She her book tour.
Of course, she's been scrutinized because she came out in
(12:00):
her book and she talked about that her husband Brock
cheated on her, and people were saying, well, why didn't
you use that on the show? And I go, you
know what, why would you? Yeah, you're giving enough. It's
hard enough to be cheated on by your husband. You
don't have to put that on the show for our pleasure.
And I think if she had put it on the show,
they probably wouldn't be in the place that they're in now.
(12:22):
So is it fully real. Never You're never gonna get
the full real deal from anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
On shore, should it be.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
No, it's like we got to play within the parameters
and you gotta still a job.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I mean, would you go to your job at the
post office and talk about your bowel movements and every
little detail about your kids? You know, I just don't
think that it's necessary for them to share everything like that.
And also enough, like she said, it would have made
you know, she was kind of trying to hold onto
the narrative of like, oh, everything's always about her at
this tremultuous time and a scandal like it was, and
(12:56):
she came up and said, hey, listen, guys, I got
a scandal too.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I don't think that it would have worked out for anybody.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You don't need to share that shit. You don't need
to go that far, especially when you're talking about marriage
and kids and all that. And it's good for her.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
She saved it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
She saved it for now, and it's gonna make her
book do really well exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
That's a sign of a good business woman.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Let sheena see live. These people deserve grace. You can't
forget and take for granted the amount of entertainment that
these people have given us. Jax, we use a fucking lunatic.
We know that she Anda Shae. She didn't tell us
that Broc cheated, nor would anybody let she and Shade live.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, I agree, we loved, loved, loved.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Surprisingly, Kibi turned on the other day the Martha Stewart documentary.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
On a whim because it's been out for a while.
I know we're late to the game, but.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
The Martha Stewart documentary on Netflix is excellent. I didn't
know the details, obviously, everybody knows who Martha Stewart is,
and I knew she went to jail, and I knew
that she was the home decor home you know, she
turned like you know, home entertainment into art. And but
this documentary is very very well done and she is
(14:21):
a motherfucker And I love it me too.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I love a bad assit. I love it apologetic, that's right,
that's right. Be you do you And she.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Was flawed and some of the things she's asking about, like,
you know, her her husband's were cheating on her, and
she talked about that, and then she talks about cheating
on them, and they're like, would you call it an
affair and she's like, I wouldn't call it an affair,
I'd call it a kiss, and I'm like kiss experience. Yeah.
But the way she speaks and the way she articulates
herself and the way she's totally herself and keeps it
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real despite how cold and crass and flawed it come off,
I fucking love it.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I do too. I have no problems with it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I feel like she's a woman who's earned her stripes
and she's in her body.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
This is what I like, I respect about. It's like,
you know, talk about like everybody was like a queen,
a queen, a queen.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
No, she's in her body, she's in her truth, and
she does not flinch, and I respect it.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I was totally inspired me too by that.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You felt similar after watching that documentary as like Mobland, right, Yes,
I love the Redemption.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, because because she was she was a victim she
was taking advantage of, and she was taken advantage of
because she was a powerful she's the first female billionaire.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I know, it's big, huge, and you.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Know they brought her down she was for something that
she shouldn't have been brought down for. I mean, I
thought she had went to jail for a longer period
of time. It was five months, I think, which you know,
in hindsight isn't that long. But I mean the scrutiny
and the shame and the embarrassment and what she was
going through and the vitual to bring her down was disgusting.
(16:02):
And so many other people, especially rich successful billionaire men,
would have gotten away with it and never gotten to jail,
and they wanted to make an example of her also
because she's fame. But I just love you know, she
did the crime, she did her time. She came back
and she kept on going. She keeps on going, and
you forget, like anytime you get flowers that are arranged,
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you know beautiful, every time you have like a chartrudery plate,
anytime you know there's linen like. She was not the first,
but she was certainly the first to bring it to
like you know, pop main stream and make.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
It simple and affordable for other people to do. And
you don't have to have a lot of money to
have beauty, yes, and do things beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I love that. You should highly recommend the Martha Stewart
documentary if you have me too. I think she's dope.
I love women that just fucking do it their way,
because so many men that are documented do it their
way and they're flawed and fucked up and drinking. Which
brings me to the other documentary which you just watched,
which is five hours long two parts, little long for
(17:06):
my taste.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
But little slow at times.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But the Billy Joel documentary on HBO is also excellent
about another flaw.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Fucking god god person.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean the things I did it and I love
Billy Joel and the things about him that we discovered.
I was like, wow, that's a lot. It almost I
was almost pissed at some of it. I was like,
I can't watch this anymore. But I stuck with it,
and I'm glad I did. And what a talented, talented individual.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And this documentary talks about, I mean, we forget or
you don't know what it took to become Billy Joel,
what it took to become the piano man. I love
when he's breaking down how the thing that I love
the most about it is when he's breaking down how
he creates these monumental, historic popular culture songs and he
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tells the stories and they're so simple, but he makes
these songs like I Love you just the way you are.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, that song is.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So quote unquote corny because it's so so simple and
so simple, and it's been used. It's been mocked, you
cry at it, It's been used in comedies, it's been
used in.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
He didn't want to write a song that was just
going to be in web at everybody's wedding.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
And sure enough is that everybody's wedding, that's right. And
the fucking guy would come up with one song after
another song, after another song after another giant song. And
the stories about the piano man and the stories about
when he at the height of his career, when he
got into it a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And in a car accident.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I mean, this guy has had one lifetime after another
and still rise to the top.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
He's lost millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Crazy too.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I mean that the story is a redemptive story, a
creative story, a cultural story perseverance.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yes, it's it's a highly recommend and.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Just you forget that at the beginning of MTV, when
MTV started those videos, he was one of the first
people's like Michael Jackson, ZZ Top, you know, Madonna, Billy Joel,
like he was in that sphere of pop pop culture,
guys you could not get away from, and when he
(19:17):
married Christy Brinkley and the Uptown Girl and that whole
paparazzi lunatic crazy time where they were chasing him around.
It's a great documentary, a little long, but very very
well done and worth your time to watch the Billy
Joel documentary, which you could watch on HBO, and of
course the Martha Stewart documentary which is on Netflix. Both
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of them two thumbs up and a great summer viewing,
because I feel like as great as July was for
reality TV, it's gonna slow down a little bit before
it picks up again in August. I think August is
the time where it chills. And those are both two
great documentaries you could watch. Like I said at the
(20:08):
beginning of this episode, we are back in Los Angeles, California,
where Kibi's from. Yes, whole time in.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
New York Dennis Beach, California.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
How do you feel we just got here? How do
you feel being in La Do.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
You can't wait to get home?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I gotta be honest, you know, I have a lot
of good friends here and so many great memories I
spent a lot of time in Los Angeles, and I'm
not one of those people that's like, like, I like LA,
but there's just something about it now that I don't know,
there's like a little pep in its step that I
feel like it's gone.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I have listen, I've lived everywhere, and like, I've lived
in the Valley, I've lived in by the Beach, I've
lived Hancock Park.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
We've been all over and driving.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Through yesterday, I was like, oh, I have a memory
at every single stoplight, you know what I mean, and
sometimes you just got to move on.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. You know, I'm happy to
be here for the week, and I'm happy to be
down the street from sir, and I'm happy to be,
you know, close to all things. You know, vander pump Rules.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well, god, it's not that hot, because that's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's definitely not that hot. But I don't miss living
here full time. I'm glad that we have moved out
of Los Angeles and live in New York City, which
is still the greatest city on the planet despite its flaws.
Another story that we must talk about, and I gotta
pat ourselves on the back because we did on this
(21:43):
podcast shout out how great Denise Richards was on the
previous season of Special Forces. We did say, even if
you just watch her few episodes on Special Forces, it's
well worth your time. It is documented she was great.
(22:04):
I don't know how the fuck they convinced Denise Richards
to do Special Forces, which is a great, fun reality
TV show based on the casting. Also the fact that
they get these people to do I mean, I don't
some of those stunts they had them jumping off bridges
and all that shit seems crazy, but they somehow someone
got Denise Ridges out there.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And well, now we know that she got out there
and she was encouraged to be there because allegedly the
affair that she's had on Aaron, her current husband, was
with one of the Special Forces guys.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Now we're still team Denise, yes, and we did stand
up for Denise. But if this stuff that Aaron, her
soon to be ex husband, is saying, and listen, we're
still gonna be team Denise because if it's also true
that Aaron put hands on her, Aaron, You're a fuck.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
We don't support that any way, shape or form. Any way,
shape or form, but this relationship, let's just say, is complicated.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Complicated because from what it looks like, it's it shouldn't happen.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
They got to get away from each other.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
This is this is toxicity beyond I mean, and the
stuff he's putting out there, Aaron, Aaron is wild. I mean,
he put out all their text messages and the text
message for each other and her and the guy from
Special Forces.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
There's a guy on Special Forces. There's a few guys.
They're like Navy seal, like you.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Know, honey, like yeah, you know, and allegedly, allegedly, allegedly
you got to say, allegedly, at least three times, allegedly,
Denise Richards was having an affair with one of these
guys from Special Forces, and somehow, some way Aaron got
hold of the texts and the photos.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It's in the Daily Mail. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
He accuses her of being on pills and she gets
five hundred of them at a time and she mixes
them with to keep I mean, it's terrible the things
he's saying, allegedly, allegedly.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Allegedly, yeah, we don't even know if he's saying. I
don't like.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Talking about this kind of dark stuff. I really don't
because this is serious business. You know, they have a
daughter that's special needs, and if the mother's doing this
kind of stuff while having the dog, this is all
gets very dark. And this is this is where I
like to, you know, turn right.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
But we still are team Denise. And like I said,
if you want something to watch, you could at least
watch the few episodes of Denise Richards on the last
season of Special Forces. And now I almost kind of
want to rewatch it because her interaction.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
It was short lived her time on there.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
A she tried and she got injured. She ruined her her.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Breast, she popped a breast and plant.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Trying to do a stunt. She I mean, she was
out there fucking competing.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
She was trying, she was trying hard.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
She looked very earnest, like she needed but maybe she
now that we know what we know. She wanted to
stay on the show because she wanted to stay close
to old hunky guy.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
But that relationship is nuts and it's nuts.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You saw that it was nuts on The Housewives when
we first that relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I never got a good feeling for me.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Right never ever. Ever, No, I don't think anyone did.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
No, he didn't give a good feeling. But it's wild
that between Aaron Denise Richard's Charlie Sheen right now seems
like the same one right now, right now, it's a race.
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Seems like Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
He seems like he's a due fairness.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
He's had a lot of years to get Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
He seems like he's quote unquote winning. He seems like
he is winning. And that story, that.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Last scene that he was on when we watched The
wild Thing Show and he was on there, we said,
this is the show, like and they were sitting having
a little dinner and their interaction. Now the subtext of
that relationship given where we allegedly believe she is allegedly
allegedly how he was treating her, looking at her with
(25:57):
like a side eye, like I used to be the one,
now you're the one. Yeah, it makes sense now, babe.
You know, we actually skipped over something very very important.
Charles Oakley dated charae.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
That's a big thing that like, come on, let me
tell you something. Personally, I mean, I don't know if
the world knows how we feel about Chara. She's one
of my favorites by Charie. She by Charay, who gonna
check me boo? Her shade game is crazy. Also, I
loved the last season that she was on. I didn't
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like how she was treated, but I loved how vulnerable
she was in that bad relationship with that guy. I
didn't like that she was in that situation, but I like,
I love reality stars when they show growth, change and vulnerability.
And Charay is a shade shit talk.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
She showed us everything and she's given us everything and
boy is she funny. But yes, he uh, why is
she not on the show? I don't know this is this?
She is a big missing piece. But anyway, that information
was like, whoa. I could see them together actually and.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Bringing her back now after the fact that Angeloakley she
earned she's staying. Yes, I agree again Angela Ley.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
In the beginning, I felt uncomfortable about their dynamic because
it just seemed like he didn't want to be there
in any And also, it's usually a kiss of death
for a couple when they get on the show and
one is not down because you're exposing a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
One is exposing, the other isn't.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It's like it gets really tricky and I would hate
to see a divorce come from the show, right.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Said, I don't know if the show could help fix
stop what's going to happen with them. I don't know.
I wish them the best. It usually doesn't help, no,
especially the way Mamie and Oaka is working out. But
that being said, Charre Whitfield, the great Chari Whitfield, knowing
that she dated Truce, could.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Not come back on the show of Angela's why Not show?
I don't know. I don't know. That would just be
messy up.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Why is she not on this show?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Take her for granted. They really do Traders. No, she
wasn't on Traders, like a season of Traders.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Oh wait, maybe she was.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I feel like she was on the second season of Traders. No,
Spadia was second season, second season, four seasons.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, No, I don't think Chara's underrated.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I feel like she was on something yo we yo.
I love shar her.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
If she wasn't maybe she was on Trader. I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I think that this is the wild that these two
dated uh before. But I gotta tell you, I don't
think she could come back, come back.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I think she can come back, and I think that
it's out in the open that they dated and he
said she doesn't want him. They're like, they're cool, Yeah,
they're cool.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, I think great.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I think that the show needs Charae to come back,
and I think she deserves to be back on the show.
I don't know why they're always taking her off, kicking her.
She doesn't do anything too crazy, that's not.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Like no, I know, it's very strange.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
They also said that Kenya Moore is not coming back ever,
No for now.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
See. I think that Kenya Moore, whether or not it's
next season or the season after, I believe in Redemption
and she's given so much to that show. I'm sure
she feels like shit, yeah, the way it happened, I'm
sure she regrets what she did. I don't know if
they can't bring her back because there might be a lawsuit.
But Kenya Moore, I just believe that people deserve chances.
(29:28):
And when you put so much into the show, and
you've given so much, whether you like.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
It, whether you don't, show I built the show.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, yeah, yeah, both of them. Yeah, And I feel like,
you know, like especially Kenya, who was there through all
of it and showed, you know, the good, bad and
everything in between. She twirled she deserves to come back.
Maybe she won't come back on the next season, but
maybe she'll come back on the season afterwards. But I
think bringing those two back right now would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And would you keep would you keep keeping?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's not coming back, no run it, but with the
crew that was at the reunion, and add Kenya Moore,
although I've already heard that Kenya Moore isn't coming back anyway,
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