Jasper "Big Love" Cameron

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Honey, we are.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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(00:37):
the road.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Huh Atlanta, Yeah, where we at Enise Studio.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Our brother, little Roddia has opened the doors for us
to come to Atlanta and tap into the soil, tap
into the heartbeat, get into the depths of the creatives
and the masters who've made this good and be shipped
that we got him that enough building.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Nick. Uh. Discography is a real thing. Uh. The list
is long, the work undefeated.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Uh. If you see this man, if you look at him,
you wouldn't You wouldn't be able to tell the time
that has been put in because he's been preserved because
of the quality that he's been putting into the atmosphere
that has been circling back to him.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I don't want to say too many words. I want
the man to speak.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
The Man of God deserves an opportunity to say the speak.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Uh. They call him Jasper.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, big love.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, everybody with the name big Love. Yeah, you out
of control?

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Hey, man, you know.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'm here for I'm here for the people.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
He's promoting something. He love. When she asked you, what's
your name? Big Love? Baby? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Baby, come get a slice of you, get a.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Piece of it. Come get a piece give me that,
give me big Love. Where does big Love come from?
How did you even get to that?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Man?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
I tell you what's so crazy? I really hijacked this name.
So years ago, many Fresh and Jazzy Fay was doing
the group. Put myself in the group. I said, what
the name y'all?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Group?

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Big Love?

Speaker 6 (02:48):
I put my I made myself a member.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
What l Yeah, what's.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Up manny fres Yeah, I made myself a member. And
then I just took They still calling me big Love,
but the name of that group was supposed to be
Big Love.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
And I insert myself in the group.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
And I was in the group and we were Big Love,
and I took the name Big Love.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I said, it's got to be me, it's got to
be got to be mean. Yeah. Man, whatever happened to
the crew, man?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Some praise, man, they would get some get some more money.
Back then, man, my god, they was on five. They
was getting it and they was just let me hang along.
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
My brother, you've done your part. Yeah, you've done your party.
I promise you had. And I just want to you know,
first of all, you number you're number one as we
touched down. Oh number you you're number one, no higher.
You're kicking this thing off, kicking off the right way,

(03:40):
you know what I'm saying. So the bar is high.
Oh yeah, whoever else comes and sits in that chair
right here, you know, get the bars hot elevated.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
But I want to go back to.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
The beginning because you know you you we we all
from a familiar place, sir, to where this thing started
for you, to where to where somebody said, boy, that
boy right there he got You said to yourself, I
got something.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Got Some man started on the West side of Atlanta.
My mama, Missus Clergey, and my whole family from the
West side of Atlanta, you know what I'm saying. And
they made everybody in my family either had to be
in the church choir on an urschel board. You got
to go to church, and you gotta be you got
to be involved. You ain't got no choice, you know

(04:25):
what I'm saying. And what's so crazy it is the
church I went to Greater Springfield. It's in the bluff.
The actual pastor of that church is DC young Fly Daddy.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
So the pastor of my church, Solomon Whitfield Junior, is
DC young Fly Daddy.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Stop playing.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, so that was the pastor of my church, and
so my whole family. You know what I'm saying. He
probably I remember him. He was a baby. Actually, his
mama and my mama went to high school together. You know,
his parents had him late in life, so he was Yeah,
so he was when I when I was teaching.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
He was a baby when I was a teenager. So
it started in church.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
So my whole family went to the church and it
was like y'all gonna sing be in a ursher board.
So it started there and then what ended up happening
was in school one day this the teacher made everybody
get up and sing, you know, the stop spang abound
or whatever. So this dude got up. I went to
Kye Heights Elementary School on the west side Lema, and
the teacher got made this boy get up and sing right,
and he couldn't sing, and everybody started laughing. I wasn't

(05:18):
even laughing. She looked straight at me and say, well,
since you think it's so funny, you get up and sing.
I don't really know I can sing. I just know
what I do at church. And so when I got
up and sang, she say, oh, you can sign for real.
She took me to the music teacher, offers Ms. Holloway.
And from that point on, I was either doing music
at church. This second grade scond, so either I was
doing music at church or I was doing it at school.

(05:41):
So by then, you know, you fully in mercy at
you at church and then you at school doing music.
And then I go home with my big brother and
them they doing music. So I was just encompassed by music.
What was your big brothers though, Man, my big brother
he had a group, but they was listening to rap.
You know, when you were older brothers there, you know
they put you on the stuff earlier than everybody else
in your age group because they you know, when you
got big the streets, so you know they was putting

(06:03):
me on I was. I was faster than most kids
my age because I was learning from my big brothers
and my cousins and them, and I was on the
music they was on, so they was exposing me and everything.
I never forget when I rapped, we was on Too
Short two Live crew. I wasn't supposed to listen to that,
but that's what they listened to.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Taking that back to the elementary, please believe it.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
We on the We're on the top field, somebody saying, hey.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
We want some Yeah, you can say podcast, puse, Yeah,
we want it.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
We're listening to Too Short.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Her name was Rinder, like a brand new Hunt. So
I'm listening to all that. But then, but then, but
then my mama. But then I go to my mama.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
She making us learn whining songs.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, and then we go around the corner and then
we on no Audition and then we're on Michael.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
That song was just a bunch of mixture of everything.
So it's all of that mixed and one. So you
just getting all this music. Then I never forget.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
The first record I wanted my mama to buy me
was ass We Laid by SHERYLO.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Murder.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
I didn't know what the song. I didn't know what
the song meant.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
I asked my mama day, I said, Mom, you bout me,
asked me, like, she's like, what you know about that song?

Speaker 6 (07:06):
It was once I got older, I realized the words
was a cheat song.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
But I'm eight.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
But what was happening to you? You felt?

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Did I'm like, whatever she's singing, but she meaning you?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
It was it was It was a sonic that that
resonated with you that at the time you didn't understand
was was actually giving birth to, you know, to what
you would ultimately do. Like I tell everybody all the time,
like I didn't get as much as I was in
church and from Reverend James Cleveland and all of these

(07:39):
things that we were singing and junior choir, all that stuff.
All that stuff was great and I had to do it,
you know, we had to do We had to do it.
But I didn't get captivated with music. It didn't captivate
me or stop me in my tracks. Until I'm walking
past the TV and the Charlie Brown's Christmas is playing.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
What is that and what is it doing to me?

Speaker 6 (08:08):
I feel it?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
And that was.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
The start of me like being obsessed with music because
that was the first thing I obsessed about, trying to
play the songs in the Charlie Brown Christmas.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
It's crazy. You don't know when music.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I think for me it was.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
Sorry Shaw Oh yeah yeah that was like pass what
a song?

Speaker 6 (08:39):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
What is what is that? Yeah? Yeah that was my
first one. Yeah, it really caught me. That was like, okay,
I like that like this, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's fire too as that song. Those are songs that
like like I remember them, songs like I remember being
somewhere with those songs like like vividly you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (09:04):
And we were living on the street cross the Lenisle
Street and point point. Yeah, to this day, I just
remembered you right back death put you right there. That's
what supposed to it's supposed to put time staff place.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, so Mama bout you Shirley Murdo.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
She did, and I played it out. Yeah, oh man,
that's Charlot murder out. What she could sign?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (09:29):
So she brought me that Charlo murdered out man. And
you know, was she the first staith evans Man?

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Yeah? Wow, think about it.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
That Bocaton was very unique. She was she was not
holding back.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
On computer love and focus on computer.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Love, was holding into.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
It, going crazy, going crazy. So so so we we're
we're we're in elementary school, probably out of elementary school now,
but you have been exposed to be too short, Yes, sir,
The Whinings, Yes sir. Two Live Crews, Shirley Murder Yeah
uh new edition before fifth grades. Okay, Wow, when does it?

(10:13):
When does it inspire you to actually do something of
your own, something original from yourself.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
What happened was this right here right So Atlanta has
a very rich talents show culture and skater ring culture.
So all these acts everybody eventually seen come out of
here from TLC, from Chris Cross, the ABC, from even Jermaine,
the pre Dallas House organized noise.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
All of us used to be these skating rinks.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
It was. It was skating rings and the talents show culture.
So ultimately what happened was ABC hit ABC Hit. That
was one of the first groups in I in Our
Age record to hit ABC Hit with Sue and we
found out the producer from Banana Dallas. They were signed
on Michael Bibbs. You know Michael Biver's on fire right here.
You know Michael Bivers the first like puffing all of that,

(10:58):
so he on fire. So after ABC here it the
next group was Chris Cross. What happened was they put
out the press release that Chriscross got discovered in the
mall by Jermaine dupri So. That made every young person
in Atlanta. We went to the mall every weekend. Around
the mall, we was getting kicked out of Linars, go
to Green Bright, go go to South wherever we was

(11:20):
going to the mall because we're like, this is how
Chrisscross did it.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
So crazy about Criscross. I went to school with light.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Skin, Chris brother and sister, Jennifer and Loney Chris, light Skin, Chris, Jennifer,
Lonia went to school with me. He was like a
two younger, but they had hit by the time he
supposed to come to high school. So I went to
so we all see we seeing everybody. We were like,
man and at the same time, the face moved down here.
Come on, the face moved down here. So you get
ABC go bam. They would, Oh they were bft in Dallas, Boom,

(11:46):
We on Chris Cross, boom Jamaine on, Oh man, the
face move here Atlanta boom. So it's every It's talent
shows everywhere, its group's everywhere, and uh and it just happened.
I was in eighth grade and one of the people
I went to eighth grade high school with was her
g Rock.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
It was up.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
They're from Allen Temple, They're from Adamsville, my neighborhood. They
end up getting them a deal and their manager who
end up getting them to deal.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
With Jojo and Dave.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
They was like the biggest street guys in Atleanta, and
they happened to be jeezy cousins later on. That's how
I made Jesus through them. So alta small like that.
So this this, this is like ninety ninety one or something.
We kids, and he like, man, look, we just got
us a deal. They twelve and thirteen. We just got
us a deal with Capitol.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
You know.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Joe, Jo and David by manager. They want another singing group. Man,
they want another singing group. Go get some of them
lame man niggas. You in the chow wit.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
It's exactly what he said.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
This is exactly what he said, Man, go get some
of them lame man niggas. You in the chorus with Yeah,
Go get some of the lame man nigga you in
the chords with a bit yob and y'all go do
a demo I'm like, what's a demo? So he said, okay,
because at.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
This point, the neighborhood know you sing, because you know in.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
School once you once you start doing stuff in school,
now that you know, it's gonna start spreading. And then
they know they little fat jobs. But who be singing
yeah little little fat jazz. Yeah yeah, you know how
they doing it. They described it by whatever they little
they little fat Joss. They be saying, you know what
I'm saying, so you know what I'm saying. They look
fat Johns, but they be saying so they know. So
that's why he like man group.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Because little is like it's endearing, but it's also disrespect.
It's it's also dismissing everything.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
But it's like, yeah, my god, So that was mess
that little card.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
How they describe so they look fat job, but they'll
be singing yeah. And so we put the group together.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Man.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
From then on, when I put the group together with
the guys, we had a group. We had a group now.
So we just was like, okay, well they just thug
it out. So we started doing the talent shows and
all that stuff too, and we didn't win, not one
talent show because one twelve won all of them and
that group name was Fort.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
They won every talent show.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
They won everyone what twelve because same like that.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
When they was twelve and thirteen, man, it was off.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
It was the four guys.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Was he quit As wasn't in the group yet. Quinn's
was actually in another group, but it was slim.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
It was the run. It was Mike and they had
a bass. You remember when Boys and Men came out,
every group had to have a base.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Everybody had to have a base. So they had to
do with a deep voice in the group. But they
were singing like that. I promised to God. When we
was thirteen to twelve, thirteen and fourteen, they were singing
like that. They was called Fort back then, and they
like from the South. They're actually from the same neighborhood
young thug from like like one twelve, from like Jonesbord
South and all of that. So they from over there,
so you know what I mean. So they but them

(14:29):
boys could sing. Man, they were every We could never
beat them, but everybody. But all of a sudden, everybody
out of them talent, out of them Talness Show. They
started getting signed and stuff. Because then everybody started coming down.
I'll never forget. When one twelve got they did, we
was like, oh my god. I seen Slim one time
in the hood at the store.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
He said, boy, we just shot a video. We in
New York with pop Daddy. He said what he said, boy,
we got a video. What do y'all see this?

Speaker 5 (14:55):
We seen that video. We say, oh, it's really for real.
Yeah yeah yeah, because everybody, our whole generation, everybody was
getting signed. First of all, Escape got, you know, Jamaine signed,
They got put on You know what I say, every
last one of them groups. Everybody knew each other or
one person in the group because everybody was getting sign Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
It was crazy. Yeah they got.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
When they came down here, they plugged the man. I
promised to God, you could go around back then and
you will see all of that. Like any rapper that
ever made it out of here. I knew him way
before they was. I knew him since we was like
in elementary school or high school or something.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Were you guys doing original music?

Speaker 5 (15:32):
See what happened was my brother and them seemed See
I had older brothers and cousins, so by the fault
there was management because they was old enough with the
cars and driving us around. So they used to take
us to the shows and stuff, so we used to
go try to. They used to pay for us to
win studio time. You know, they was in the streets
and doing all kinds of stuff. So they had the
little money, they'll go pay for studio time to sing
and stuff.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
And I remember we used to pay studio time. And
I remember we was like man. Our group.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
We was all kind of like arch kids because we
could play and sing and stuff. We were like man. Instead
of pant they giving us wax songs. We could sing
our own wax songs. That's our only thing. Like instead
of paying for these demo we could do our own
wax songs. If they're gonna be terrible, we might as
well sing our own terrible songs. So that's what made
us doing it, because we could already play and all
that kind of time.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
You hadn't written anything.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Now we haven't.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
We wasn't.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
We wasn't really writing.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
We only started writing songs for real, for real because
we wanted to have our songs for demo because we
was paying other people to do songs, and it was
like they were wax.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
So they're like, we're about twelve, because you know, the
first demo.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
We were doing covers you know how, you know how
you're going there and you make they'll redo tracks for
you for demo. So when we got you start getting
more mature, and we're like, well man, we kind of
want to do our own songs. We started trying to
get people do their songs. We were like, well man,
we run now we could play pianos and sing and
all of that. We could do that if if they terrible.

(16:49):
Now my group was pure Bliss. We got that from
a cool J song. We did what we did with
our boys and men swimming in the on the exits
a pure Bliss. We said, that's our name, like, yeah,
pure Bliss. We got it from the hay Lovel song
Pure Bliss.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
We had had it after that. You never know it.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Pure Bliss, and we thought we was Hey, we thought
we were so dope. Man, them songs. Let me tell you,
we thought we were so dope. I went back to
listen to them songs one day.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I said, I don't.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Wonder nobody, Hey listen man, I've had that moment with myself.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I listened to some old ship I was I was
like that nigga was.

Speaker 6 (17:39):
We were so packed out though, that.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
I remember we did this one show one time, right,
we had a showcase and this dude seen the show.
He like, listen, I don't know about those songs, but
y'all can perform real good.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
You know.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
We said that nigga ain't in here, that nigga don't
know nothing. Man, what these songs ain't right? We were
crazy psyched out from Letlanta nigga. Right, You're like, man,
you crazy. These songs hard. Them songs was terrible.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
And he was trying.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
He was trying to give him some some good little game,
just a little game.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
We were.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
We were so we were like, man, you tripping, you tripping.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
You can't hear this?

Speaker 3 (18:17):
So this So did you emerge out of all of
that as like, well, see the premier guy.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
I wouldn't know because really I ain't really no singer
like that won't be real with you.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
I'm not gonna stytus, you know.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
I just want to put on some clothes and look
like I'm in B B D or something, and you know,
put everybody together. I could write the songs, I could play,
I could do all that, but I am I ain't
dying to sing, like I ain't one of the ones,
I gotta singing styling us.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
I'm I'm gonna said, big boy, big boy, you know
what I'm say. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do
the big big boy hunt and all that.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm if you see, yeah, the street just yelling, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
So what happened was so eventually through all of these
things we finally meet we get to manage my management.
Just having having a studio, you know, through going through
Brench studios, we met our management dude named Leonard, so
we just so he had him to have a studio.
So at this studio one day, this lady come in
and he said, man, y'all need to come meet this lady.

(19:17):
It was a lady named joryce Urby. I'm gonna tell
y'all who jorce Urby is.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
She was.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
She the lead singer of the group Climax, So the
song the Me and All Pause and I Miss You
and all of that. She came up with babyfacing all
of them. She came up at the studio time one
day and he said, y'all need to meet her. She
in the business. She also discovered Dallas Austin. So to
put it all together, so we call meet her one
day and she's like, oh, y'all, y'all, y'all, yeah, we
did our songs with whatever. She's like, y'all wrote them songs.

(19:43):
We're like yeah. She like, I'm gonna help y'all get
a deal. But this is what I want to do too.
I want to help y'all need to help me find
another group that's a little bit younger than y'all. I'm
gonna get y'all a deal, and then we're gonna put
a group together for some guys because by this time
we was out of high school. We Liken Well was
one of one of them, was still in high school
by just graduated, so we were about eighteen seventeen th
six dollars, still teens. And she was like, we're gonna

(20:05):
go find a put a younger group together, and then
I'm gonna hep get y'all a deal. I'm gonna get
another group of deal. Well in the process us gett
us a deal. She said, y'all help me find another
young group too. She goes in the yearbook, she goes
in the yellow Pages and say, okay, I told her.
I say, my aunt Tie Church got two little boys
that can sign, and she like, you're gonna go get
them me? Like yeah, we went to the church and
got them to a little boy. She said, I'm gonna

(20:26):
find somebody else. She went through her yellow pages and
she was going through the alphabets in the first Oh hey,
let me call this elementary school. She called the first
elementary school she could find, Avndale Elementary, east side of Atlanta.
She's and she was like, I'm looking for kids that
can sing and to teach. The principals Like, well, I
think I got one person will be perfect for y'all.

(20:46):
She like, oh, come go meet him. So she goes
and meets the little boy she called. She calls and said, look,
I think I found our star. Meet me tonight at
the Red Lobster on Camel rode down the street from
south to cal Mall. I never forget this, you know,
we driving by this point we eighteen, but that nineteen.
She like, meet me at the Red Lobster. Anybody from Atlanta,
y'all know this Red loss by south of Caroma, on

(21:08):
the east side of Alanda, the Cala Road. We meet.
We walk in the building. The first thing, this little
boy run up on me, say you sang shouting, and
the boy started singing, I Believe I Can Fly. It
was Lord.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
He was ten. I said, what is this little current
of hand?

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Boy? He he was already ad I'm talking about the
first thing. He ran up on me the first thing.
He said, yeah, you can sign, shouted I can sign,
and he started singing I Believe I Can Fly by
R Kelly.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
I'm like, I don't know who this.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Little This little boy's star, she said.

Speaker 6 (21:36):
She said he was like him.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
I said, oh, ever since then, me and him we've
been tight. So then we start actually writing the demos
for the young group. We put him with the two
little boys we found at the church, and then she
ain't up. They got a deal quicker than us. So,
but at that point she had us writing their demos.
This one I found out song writing was a real
job because she like, listen, Josper No, Lord likes you.

(21:59):
So you want to sit here with him and you're
gonna write his verses and you're gonna make teach him
how to sing the songs or whatever.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
I'm like, Okay, this is gonna get us a record
deal too, Okay, Cuz at this point record.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Told me, man, I want to be on B E
T Black Star Power all I care about. Man, we
got a video. Yeah, and she's like, yeah, y'all gonna
get it for yo, they gonna get I'm like cool,
So she put load on me. But so we end
up doing this demo. By the time, we working so
close together. He become my little brother. So he he
youngest point, he ten. So since that point we always
been together. So his group good a deal. We good

(22:35):
a deal. We never got no video, never got your video.
He got his video though.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
He got a group.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
They got a lot off.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
He got a few of them.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
So and and you know, through that whole process, and
that's how I mean him ended.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
Up being so tight.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
So when he came out as an artist, Yeah, in
the beginning, he came out with a group.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
He was with a group called in Tune.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I remember that.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, that was Lloyd's least sing of that group. Yeah,
I think I think I knew. They and Tricky them
did their first song and Candy wrote it. They was
They did the song called Ready. And what was so
crazy was in the midst of us doing the demo,
she called us again, she can't look I got another
little guy. I don't know if I want him to
be in the group, I want him solo. I'm goin
to bring him down. She went and got this other

(23:17):
little guy and brought him down and she was like, nah,
he's gonna be solo because I can get two separate deals.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
That Look, I was seven.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
She was moving should down. So now she was fond.
And then she had signed Dallas at this point, so
you have by not that. But they had no they
had no issues or whatever. But they worked it out.
But one under the one condition was and when she
found her acts in her groups, Dallas were gonna do
songs on them. You got to realize at this point,

(23:57):
Dallas the biggest producer in the world. He doing TLC, ABC,
he doing Boys and Me and this back when you
were telling Diamond Records, and he right now producing the songs.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
He got a real studio, this one.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Having a real studio meant something for real for even
though it's still mean something, it's just different back then. Yeah,
And so she brought us all over to Dallas. He
started working on Lloyd album and he say, but I'm
gonna sign Sammy solo. But Lloyd already had his deal.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Lloyd had a solo deal no, Lloyd had an album
with this group.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
With the group, Okay, so Dallas working on a group album,
and he like, but I'm gonna sign Sammy solo because
that way she didn't have to put Sammy in the
group with Lord. She'll let Lloyd keep being in the
lead singer. She's like, I'm gonna get a whole another
budget with Sammy through this process. And through all this process,
that's when I meet Dallas through and Lloyd. I used
to write our Lord songs. So layd to tell Dallas, man,
my friend ain't gonna come and write my songs with me.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, and that was me hmm.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
So he Lloyd keep bringing me to the studio, Dallas,
my friend gonna come write my songs with me, And
so I ended up getting signed the Dallas at that
point Dark but she put all us together.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Ah Man, shout out to Joe, Shout out Joyce.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
She worked on Shout Out Leonad too, because Leonald he
put us up, Leonard Watkins and George Urban and they
put it was like crazy and then and what was
so crazy what ended up happening was Sammy, even though
we stopped working on him way later, you know, because
it was like a year and a half of us
working on Lloyd demos with his group and when her
finding Samuel was thinking about put him in the group,
Dallas had just got his new label deal, so he like,

(25:23):
I'm gonna put Sammy out fast. So he did one.
So the first song he put on he did on
Samon was I like it. That's the very first song
they ever recorded, and that and he's this when I
know when you when you're on the road, This is
when I know you could call your shots. He told her,
he said, I'm gonna write SEMMI single the night that
man went in that room and wrote it, and he said,
I'm gonna have this aut in three months.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
And the thing was out him three months and that
thing was on Fas said me, this, I go.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Everywhere, you know, so like so at that.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Point, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm around everything.
I'm it, you know what i mean. The Dallas he
rocked with me, he took me, he signed me. You
know what I'm saying. He let me be around the
studio every day. All they taught me how to make
it be right, the production are right, you know, because
you don't really know what you're doing until you see
people who actually really do on that on the level. Yeah,
because you know, we just sit by, We just sit

(26:16):
by records by make the voice.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
It sounded like that.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Yeah, it sound like a million people singing. We ain't
know about no stacks, but how they get their drums
like that. We didn't know.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
You had to go sithing, you know, the things you
do to get the production right.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
So he let me be around him when he was
the top producer and get all that game with precious game, Dallas,
real man, and so that knowledge that from that point
it was all in the game.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
One of the goats, one of the yeah, for sure,
for real, for real early though too early, early, early, early.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
When people didn't even really know what that means.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
We didn't even know. We didn't didn't know. Yeah, yeah,
we didn't know those levels.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
You didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
You know, it was mystical to us.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yeah, you didn't know.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
He was like a deity. He's like, that's I guess
that's what Jesus. I was just always here dark exactly.
It was a special place exactly. I'd never been there before,
but I would hear it. I'm on the whole other
side of the country.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
God went on Instagram back then.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, that was back then. We needed to learn differently.
We need to be able to we need to be
able to recover.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
I see it all quick things some time about on
the highest level. I said, okay, yeah, see what's.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
Going on, because it's something different to see it, but
then to actually be able to touch it, that's different.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
Yeah, like like right now they're getting to see things
around the world, not touching.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
They not touching, you know what I'm saying. So Sammy
is your first release.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Well, see, Sammy actually was the first release because he
because he put it out quick.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
So you start writing on the early stuff too, Yes,
because I.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Was doing Yeah, I was doing Sammy and Lord because
we was all in the same Lady George Erby, So
I was That's how I learned really how to write
for other people because I really worked on them. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So I practiced a whole
long time on Lord, but when I got with Semi,
I had pretty much polished it up and that was
ready to put the album out fast.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
And Sammy's what ten eleven.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
Twelve right there too? Eleven or twelve?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
So If you go look at Sammy first videos, you
see Lord and all them in there, because we all
was part of the same crew. We was all signed
to the same lady, you know what I mean, managing
us all and putting us out with Dallas and all
of that.

Speaker 6 (28:35):
And so when Sammy blew up, then that we're working.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
And then at that point did they let you in
any of the videos because I'm waiting.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
For you, man, I never got my man. I never
got in them video. I ain't start the layter really
giving them video. Man.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
You know, man, I wanted a video, my man. I'm
telling you, man, that what it was.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Man.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
I signed. Man, I signed my first day. I ain't
even no lawyer.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Do we get the video? Did a lawyer?

Speaker 5 (29:00):
It was terrible. I should have.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
He just wanted the video.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Man.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
I wanted a video. Man, I ain't even a video.
I ain't gonna put I ain't even gonna putting.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
No cap on. I ain't no all I was thinking about. Man,
if we get the video on b TV, gonna be rich.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
That's all.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
At least we're gonna be finals.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, yeah, we'll figure the rest. You've been in some
videos though.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
Well later you know what I'm saying. But it was
after I understood with certain you know what, but.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I say, you know, Jay got a video coming up
with video?

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, my man, Right, you should have
been on Jason, I'm a bombs said, you know, come
steal cameos y'all remember the steal cameo days.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Still cameo like, man, what he doing is that? What
is it? That was serious? Busy boy?

Speaker 5 (29:53):
You getting the cameos for?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
So it was your first hit record?

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Man, The first record that I probably say it was
a real hit that I was a part of, probably
was Christin n Aguilera Dirty that was the Yeah. So
I didn't know nothing, like you know, we was writing
around everybody, but I didn't even really know. I used
to always wonder everybody want singles cause.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know, some album cut a bunch of app cuts.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
You know, placements.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
You know.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
We did the Sameme album. They end up going real good.
And then I worked on Nearby, a album that went
real good. I had a cop yeah you know what
I'm saying. So we end up around people around I
was doing a bunch of little I was doing a
bunch of you know songs, and I got and shout
out to Ryan Glover from knowing time he gave me
my first beat check. I couldn't believe it. Brian, So

(30:39):
you know you don't know how much beach you tell
beats for. You don't know none of that. You just
going and doing it. I gotta get I gotta get
him a shot because real I never I didn't understand.
I call it. Ryan say.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
One day he come to the studio, He like, you
did this peak?

Speaker 5 (30:52):
I like yeah. He like, okay, how much you gonna
charge me for it? I say, Man, I don't even know.
I'm gonna be real with you, man, how much how
much y'ld buy I need for?

Speaker 7 (31:00):
Man?

Speaker 6 (31:00):
You know what I'm saying. Listen, I hope this ain't
frond of the mount too much?

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Brand? Know how we get that? Ryan say, listen, I'm
gonna tell the label you charged fifteen thousand dollars. I'm
gonna give you ten.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
I say, run it, run it, run it, man, run it.
You're gonna give me.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
This fuck fuck to me?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
You you ain't saying nothing but what's right?

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Hey, man?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Sometimes you gotta give to get a man.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I ain't all I knew that, Man said listen I'm
gonna tell the label you charged fifteen thousand, you're gonna
get ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
I said, yes, I've had plenty of deals. Ay, man,
where I got ain't nothing wrong with it. I said
thirty and I got twenty.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yes, I'm gonna put mine on top.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
You know what I'm saying. So that's when I start.
Really you know, I'm hitting now.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
You know now you charged fifteen, Yeah, fifteen, that's your
fo me. You know what I'm saying. Hey already bought.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
To Yeah yeah, you know, but they could, man, they
might could have got a fire. I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
All yeah, what's the street that real lifts the real
life you two can have a beat.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yeah, man, real, So I was getting a little bit
of placement. So but I still didn't really understand the
value of a hit song. Yeah yeah, and really, man,
the Christina Guilera dirt is on that really just came off,
man for real. I ain't even like man like it
was because I'm dope. She really just used to like
hang around because you know, we having fun in the studio.
She was she came down to Alema and this was

(32:38):
she was still the pop princess. She came out here
and got caught up in it.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
She said, got caught up.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
She got caught up in next thing, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
She said, I my album dirty like she's feeling it.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
She turned it to that and then she said, I
want to rock. This was she said, now this one,
this one, I know how this one I know trooperstars
called their plays. She say, the Red the Red Man
that Met the Man videos video was on TV. She said,
I need a beat like that.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
She got her management irving as off call rock.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Wilder Rock wild. I sent the pack of beats and
she listenew She's like, this is gonna be my single.
She flew back to l A.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
She called me like when she got back to l
A like, come out here, Jem. I had just di vibe.
I got to beat. I know it's gonna be my single.
Damn Manly, she ain't even really need me on the
we we got to hang on Blabe, what's up?

Speaker 5 (33:22):
Blabel? Blair would have pretty much you know what I'm saying.
They know Bla would have done laces that thing up
and I walk in out. That's when I first met
Blabel and Blay were like, oh she got enough. But men,
he figured out I was cool. He was like, man,
come on here to finish this bridge and woo yeah
and that thing I know, man, she had a video
in three weeks. I'm like, oh this is oh this
that level, this that level man, she called the shot man.

(33:42):
That Dirty came out and man and it did what
it did. And that's when I found out what those
performance Roytis was like this when I figured out would
be in my asskout. Before I never knew I was
signed up to be on my but I didn't know
what it was for. I just the everybody just say
you got to be signed to me on my ass gut.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I was yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Then I figured out why, Oh, that's why you want.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Perform when they start collecting money all over the world.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
I say this, this makes sense because you know you
been still you hear people arguing over singles and hearing
people I want to single war.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
I ain't never know why. Now I knew why.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
So Dirty was probably the first record I was a
part of with with with everybody involved that really understood
that was like, okay, that's kind of a hit.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
M hmm, yeah, that's come of the hit right now?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Do the phone calls get different after get well?

Speaker 6 (34:28):
The thing about this. I don't know how this indugry works.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
If you just even attached to anything that looks a
certain kind of way, people are gonna call you, you
know what I mean, Like they're just gonna call you
because they got dy version or whatever that is and
they want something like that or whatever. So the phone calls,
come man, can you come work with this and work
with that?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
So yeah, it definitely helped, But you've become part of
the conversation where it's like, Okay, this guy can deliver
it here.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yeah, yeah, he he ain't gonna make a look bad.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
And they're always going to give you a shot.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Give me a shot.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
When you got your uh performance, run talk to them,
you know, I see you know. Oh yeah you got
you got your drip on? Oh yeah, those type of things.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, what did you buy?

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Probably a whole bunch of ugly probably a whole probably
and a.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Bunch of chicken wing cheesecake factory, and a man, probably
a bunch of ugly old clothes.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Back then.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
That then the strip club heavy come on, So that's what?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Which which one was you?

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Oh my god? What was at the Magic City? Was
at the Blue Flame? Where we was at the gentleman
club man we did.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Oh my god, man, you put some girls through college.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
Man, you know what. I don't know if I did
that much, but I showed him how to help him
eat for a week or two. Yeah, yeah, and have
some good times. Yeah. I showed her I wasn't spending
that much money. You didn't because you know this before
just before making rain.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
So we were so being meth hasn't at this mottill
win Yeah a long way.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
It meant some man, you can still flip your sitting
piecing it off man, yea. We having us a girl friend.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
For the night.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah yeah, come on. Then I was really meant oh.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Man, and I went scared again at least fo'honand that
one man that was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, man was in there. I was.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
And now we're piercing the mouth. Well oh oh some
club fired out of the table table dance.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
It was some ten.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
But man, we had some good times. Oh man, shooters
alley Yeah yeah, flash back. Oh yeah, man, you know
we was living it.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
We was in it. What ye what year is this?

Speaker 5 (36:36):
It's about two thousand and three and four.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, because I was down here because we said noontime.
I was down here early in ninety eight.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
And I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
I remember. I'm gonna tell you the first time I
heard of you. I at the studio this when I
first signed to Dallas. JQ come busting in the street
and say, hey, man, I just met the most incredible
slinger in the world. He's gonna take over.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
And I said, really, he said, and they called him
he said, he said, he said, now he better than
all us. JQ like, man, this man incredible.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
I say, like, Dad, he said, Man, listen when I'm
telling you. He said, it's got tank man, He's incredible.
And that's the first time I heard about you.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
He was like, man, wait, do y'all He because.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
He was working a new time a lot. He came
around the corner. He was like, Man, wait, do y'all
hear this dude?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Man, wait, do y'all hears a noon time every day?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah, Yes, Teddy bitch Teddy Cox because before be Cox.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
He he ain't got them twins. If he's blue, he's.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Still like tinkering around. And I'm like, he got okay,
all right? Because j Duve is the guy yo Jay Dub.
He was on fire the original Rocks.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
He was out.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Yes, he was on fire fire, Oh my god, he
got Oh yeah, he was going crazy out here. Fire
he was going crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
And that's when I first met the Twins.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
And then be Cox was like, man, you gotta come over,
you know C J D spot and yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, so I'd go over to they to go over
to Jermaine the Priest spot, the south Side beat, the
Twins and basketball, you know, Jacked, you know, I don't
know they want to talk about that story.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
We're talking about.

Speaker 8 (38:16):
Why are we talking about jadab though, Yeah, let's get
this out. Me and Tank did not know each other
at this point, and he is not saying this. Jay
in the beginning of Slowly people.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
People, Jamie j great come on, because j played every
instrument he was on that special. He was in his draws.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Man, I don't know why that man was why that's
that's that's where he found the vibe.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
He found he found in his draws found.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
He didn't when he played the track for me, he said,
I said, well, you know, where's the where's the session for?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
He said, I lost it and back then listening to
session so yeah, two track. Oh, yes, that's what I'm
talking it's the two track off CD.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Well, we got to do it what we got?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
They never do that, I said, I said, whatever, Slowly
is a two track, that's amazing, two track off CD.
I said, there's no way you can reproduce this.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
Y'all bounce it down the two track or did y'all
do it in pro tools?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I sang this on this might have been the first
song I sing in pro tools. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Slowly might be the first song I sing in pro
toos wy wow wow, because everything else before that was
to no separate tracks on Slowly, that's what that's your amazing.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
That mix had to be on that CD for you
to be able to use it like that.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
He wasn't gonna be able to do that again, ever,
I said, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I don't care. I don't care if it's peaking, I
don't care. What the imperfection you ain't gonna be able
to do.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
We rolled around l A and he it's bends with
them Law and hert rims for a week listening to
that track, eating that PF chain, chain man, having Apple Martine.
That's borrowing money from FLINTI giving us big paper in

(40:23):
the city. Yeah, Yeah, New Times. Crazy that that that
moment right there, like that was that was so and
that was so needed for me to But you weren't
a part.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
Of I went a part of New Time. So what
happened was it just so happened that the first time
I used to see them around the city all time.
What up, Nooney? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
What up? Chris?

Speaker 5 (40:43):
You know, I just see them around the city all
the time. But they had started popping off with their producers,
so I used to go with there. I was trying
to write, So they'll have they'll try to link their
producers up, they'll bring that tapes beats on there and so.
But when I first then when I started doing the beats,
that's when Ryan came start buying them from me too,
you know what I mean. So we used to always
go around each other and be around each other all

(41:05):
the time.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
What was you making your b tongue?

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Yeah? You see two thousand excels? Yeah, yeah, a good
old try.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
You started a two thousand excels Yeah, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
Triting to try and I had to try, And then
I had the mom what that module was that had
our planet fast.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Planet fat what's that other one that eighty I had?

Speaker 8 (41:24):
You know, like yeah, it was really like the starter
studio producer packed up everybody when you were like, yo,
I want to start by Okay you need ten yep,
yeah yeah no.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
PC, it's a pack, it's a planet.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah yeah, it's a thing we started off. Yeah yeah, yeah,
that was the kick. What what made you feel like
you could produce like that? That's that's what I want
to ask you, because you had your writing on. What
made you think, you know what, I can figure this
production out there? Somebody giving you the information like how
you said Dallas kind of brought you in and just

(42:00):
showed you the ropes?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Was it from him or who was that from?

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Definitely him? Because for real the first time. So when
I first met doubt it is the first thing I
did was play songs on piano and sang the songs
to him.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
That's why he wanted to sign.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Me, like, oh you're one hundred percent so here like
oh you don't really need nobody, But I wasn't all
the way good on the beat.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Shit.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
What happened was he let me sit around him, and
he let me sit around the studio. Then I really
learned by watching everybody how they did the beats. Then
I had a room in at the time who he
had got an MPC two thousand, Jeff, and he was
an intern at the studio, so he was my roommate.
So I practiced at home with him and then but
I knew I could produce because for real, what the producer.
The reason I started getting placement was because the producers

(42:39):
could give me the track and I produced everybody vocals
and I could make people sound good. And that learned
early on. If you can get artists to sound good,
they always want to work with you. Yeah, And it
was harder to do back then. You know, you had
to really vocal produce back then. Yeah, so every artist
used to. So the producers started being like, that's what
gonna write my songs because they ain't got to sit
there with me and produce it. I'm a vocal producer.
I'm gonna do it all. And so then after that

(43:01):
it's like, man, I can already play, I can already
vocal produce all.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
I gott dudes learn how to work this NPC the
right way, and that's it.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
And so that's what I did. I practiced on the
MPC for a little while, and then I'm like, okay,
my ears put it all together, start fine tuning it,
and then I start making beats, and man, they like
they're gonna bite it your beats. Okay, well it must
be good enough.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, okay, Cool. Did the beat that you sold did
it ever come out?

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Ever came out?

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Just got your check? I just got my check your
front end fron got Yeah, you have the four teen.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Yeah, he gave me to full ten.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yep, that was back then.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
He gave me the full thing. It wasn't even on
front and back because he needed his five. Yeah, because
he needed five.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Pushed that through.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
Push it on cool. So it never even came out
on that artist. It never even came out. And then
after that it just started flowing.

Speaker 8 (43:54):
So you got derdy going, Yeah, when does like the
full run kick in? Where is it is it Lloyd
that kicks.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
It off for you?

Speaker 5 (44:06):
We'll see what happened with Llyd he throughout this whole time,
Lord always still with me. Lloyd ended up losing his
group record deal. But Lloyd was up early pre teen,
but he was getting in trouble because Lord always been edged,
so he was getting in trouble in school he was
getting arrested and all that.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
So his mama was Lloyd Yeah, so Lloyd like Lloyd Yeah.
So Lord was like you know.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
So his yeah, you know sor his mama used to
be like johs. But let him come to the studio
with child. So she'll send him to the studio with us,
my brother and we'll go pick him up. He ain't
gonna be and my brother and my cousin to keep
him out of trouble. Just bring him to the studio,
you know what I'm saying. So we started doing demos
for him just because we just doing songs, and then
he get a solo deal. So by him getting when

(44:48):
when I send out the songs we was doing, he
end up getting a solo deal. This was Matgic Johnson
though this is Matt Johnson had his label ship, so
he was signing Match Johnson. But in the time we
finished during the album, none of the songs came out
because Maggie Johnson decided to cut his label off. Well
those same songs we had. So one day he in
the studio and he was like, uh, he just hanging

(45:10):
with me every dayt the studio. He just coming up
being me, so he won't get in trouble.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
So Magic didn't pay for the demo. Practically, yeah back, Oh.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
He prayed for a whole album. Oh, mag of them
played good.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
What do our things work out? So we had so
now we had an album that for for good songs.
So what happened was he was in the lawd was
in the studio, hanging out every day with us. No,
he just Lord was always mature for his aide. So
people didn't the girl.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
But at this point he's still a teenager.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
He's still a teenager. He and I'm not fifteen to sixteen,
you know what I'm saying. So one day he coming,
Dondelle Jones got a session. So Dundelle Jones got a
session at dark because you know Dallas used to run
out of the studio. So done that. So so Mark
pitts his A and R. So Mark Pitt's come in
and he see Lloyd because you know he see him me.
He a little young, he like a little hood dude
with and he say, ask Lord, man what you do?

(45:52):
He said, Man, I sang Mark Peces like no way
you sing, no way, no way you sing. He got
sign he said, you got songs. So he said Jospeer.
So you know, I'm always in the studio one where
songs at. So I said, I got our songs right here.
So we go in the room. Mark Pitts heard them songs.
Mark Pitce say no way. Mark Pitts jumped on the phone,
try to call La. These same demo songs were the

(46:13):
first songs Lloyd came out with, which was Hey Young
Girl in the south Side.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
Them them all these songs.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yd.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
He was fifteen John So Matt Magic songs, Matti Johnson
paid Yeah. So yeah, so he Gooyd had south Side,
he had, he had a Hey Young Girl and all
that shit stuff and the other songs I had did.
So when Mark Pitts heard all them songs, Mark pitt
was like, man, we gotta sign you. So he called
l A. He set up with me for Lord to
go to l A mean and go to meet with La.
So Lloyd about sixteen. At this point, so Lloyd he

(46:42):
do he do the meaning he was about to go
to New York to do that, meaning, I'm doing a
real fast version of you, okay. And so while he
was up there about supposed to do his meeting with
La Reid, Lloyd, Lloyd's attorney Ron Sweeney, his IRV Gotti. Hey,
I got this jumboll over here. He about to go
meet with La Red, but you need to come see

(47:03):
him before he go do that meeting with La Red.
You need to come see this boy.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Murder is on fire.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Well at this point, it's kind of it's if this
one fifty first coming up.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
So it was like a little yeah, I thought he
was okay, but they had they're gonna fight.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
You know, they were still the biggest, they were still
like it's still like.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Crazy, you know what I'm saying. So when Layd went
to New York, we was all sitting back at home,
like waiting to let us know how to l A
Rea because we're gonna get us a you know, we
gonna us l A Reed deal, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
So he called me and.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
Said, hey, chap Man, I'm at a shunty platinum party. Said, man,
what you're doing all the shunting platinum party? He said, Man,
earth got it. I think IRV wanna sign me? I said,
IRV wanna sign you? He's like yeah, And so we're like, wow,
we thinking he gonna better get sign to La Reid.
HERV intercepted through Ryn Sweeney the lawyer, because he was
Earth lawyer too. So Ryn Swingey put that call Earth

(47:50):
come get him. So Earth boom. So the next week,
Earth fly down because Earth come believe like this young
boy wrote these songs and all he got all this.
Let me see if it's real. So Earth fled down
to meet all his friends, which is us, my cousin,
and it's real. He's like, oh, this is what he around.
Oh he looked at her a little hood. Oh he
for real and ear shot that video so quick.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
For he moved Lord up.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
He took Lord up to New York to do about
five or six more songs and shot that video for
he put a shunt on the south side because at
first she wasn't on south side. It was his cousin.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
He put a shunt on the south side and it
was on way bigger than me.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Man like, for real, Man, I couldn't design none of this,
the stuff, the stuff I've been messed it up. I
couldn't design none of this that. I can't design it.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, yeah, okay, a right, we get to you up here,
find it.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
He finally finding the key.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Will that be one? Will there be one?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
M h m hm.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Chasm, yes, sir, Micheur, Big Love. Yeah. H we want
to know here, but we want to know chief. Top five,

(49:38):
your top five mm hmm, top.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Five, your top five RB singer whatever, Why are the songs?

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Yeah yeah, big Love, You've got You've seen I know you, yes,
yeah right, but with Ray Charles, Ray Charles, that was great.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, brother, big Love, Yes, sir, Your top five R
and B singer hmm.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
Okay, this is this is my own personal now. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
The world your world, the top five most influential RB
singles on me and I listened to you know, I
want to just put a prerequisite. You know, we can
always do the Michael Jacksons and the Princess and and
and you know what I'm saying, We gonna always do them,
but I'm gonna try to go off a little bit
off kill too for the ones that really influenced me.
Besides yeah, besides Michael and Prince because they touch everybody soul.

(51:09):
That Bobby Brown, the truth, the blueprint, Yes, sir, the blueprint.
People don't know a lot of the post. Barbara Brown
was way different than beginning than before. Bobby He changed
the game. You got to give Bobby them two dances.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
Behind you dancing, nasty dancing and singing. That's the hunting
and all of that Bobby.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
So when you see us, when you see Chris and
you see all of them, Bobby with the blueprint for
that Bobby because you know, you know, Mike was a
different thing. He was out of this world. Bobby brought
you to the hood. So you see r Kelly, he
got some of that Bobby in it. You know what
I'm saying. When you see all of them, you know
they got that Bobby in them. So I'm gonna say,
Boby Brown, just for me, for you, Keith Sweat change

(51:51):
the game. When you hear that eight a wait in
them slow songs, the first one to do that thing,
Keith Sweat, that make the laugh for ever able that
him and Teddy did change the game.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
The sweat, the sweat man.

Speaker 5 (52:02):
You can'tnot keep sweat. You can't cannot keep sweat, you know, yeah, yeah, put.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
His hands out. He tried not keep sweating the super
all the super freaking songs, but he did for Silk that.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Freakment a producer, writer and owner, owner way before anybody.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Even sometimes I don't think people get Key Sweat was
the right way. Get Key Sweat, Star money. They don't know,
they don't know, and we're gonna make sure make sure
they know. Many changed the game. So the way y'all
hear R and B music when y'all start hanging with
the super deep eight away, Okay, everybody had that.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
That deep basing and like rap songs. That's Keith Sweat.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Man, keep going, keep going.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Let me see influence me. I'm gonna take it up
to R. Kelly. Why not game changer for sure? Game changer,
change the game to after game changing. Man, you can't
take it. You know, whatever you got going, But man,
you can't take away them songs. Man, you can't take
away the performances. You can't take away the flavor he
brought to the world. You can't take it.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
On the teleent side, you can't take that away. You
gotta get it to it.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
You can't take away the the the amount of inspiration,
come on, man, the amount of gifts that were birthed.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, as a result of.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
What he was doing, our killing man wouldn't be we
wouldn't room, we wouldn't be like we are because well,
you know, we come from the generation of talking different
with our R and b PN, but we kind of,
you know, we come from after that. We could we're
gonna talk like that.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
We could talk about we talk.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Yeah, shut up, shut up.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I don't never want to hear.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
I will never knew, I said, yeah, shut up, yeah, yeah, man,
the true man gotta give it to him.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Man. Yeah, that's three.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
That's three, babyface. Man, come on, man, that's this baby
face my last one. It's a it's a combination. But
I'm gonna tell you why. Charlie Willison, m Charlie Willison,
Uncle Charlie. Let me tell y'all something. This whole generation
of us that do all them runs and all that
stuff we bit off. Charlie Wilson, Aaron Hall wanted to

(54:24):
be Charlie Wilson. Arkella wanted to be Aaron Hall. Keller
wanted to be Aaron Aaron Hall wanted to be Charlie
Wilson the way Charlie will was.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
And then this, this is why I got to come up,
because guess what Charlie Wilson wanted to say, like.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Steven Wonder the game, so the way we sing all
these runs and I knew and not Aaron all of
that Charlie Wilson really, but he was getting from Steven Wonder,
So that's why I said, but I don't think they,
but but Charlie Wilson, the way he sing like man,
come on, man, like for real, the way that guy
from Oh My Word to this day boy. Yeah, yeah,

(55:01):
all I wanted to hit them runs like that.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah, Chris, and most of us can't. We can't see
at all for most of us. That is. That's different way,
different love. Yeah. Yeah, I like where you're going your
top five R and B songs.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Yeah, that's like pulling my heart out. I'm gonna tell
you my first one. If I'm going by pure Field,
I gotta give a Lately by Steven Wan of that
that was remade by huh Josi't gonna tell you why
if you listen to the words and Lately, the only
person that could have wrote that was Steven Wander or
another blind man because the lyrics he's saying far more frequently,

(55:41):
you're wearing perfume to say, no special place to go.
The only way he knows she going out and all
that because he's smell of perfume. He can't see what
she's going. He don't know. She got on. He got
to do.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
That's the only way she's going.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Man.

Speaker 6 (55:56):
Come on, I can smell the perfume, man, ain't nobody
can he on.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
He's not about what she's wearing. See that.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
I can smell your perfume. More frequently you're wearing her perfume.
This is really my my favorite Michael Jackson song.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Is this right here? For real? Lady in my life?
And then like I said, as we lay, I got
to say, as we that's the first that's the first
record I asked my mama to buy me with that
feel on it like that, So as we lay and
Man for real, cry for you Jo Tosy, you better
do it man. When I heard that, When I heard

(56:35):
that cry for you, man.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I said, whoa life changing? Yes, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (56:44):
Man?

Speaker 6 (56:44):
Like I'm a crop of you. They're saying the softest
thing in the world, but in the hardest way.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Come on, and I gotta do this song right here, man,
even though it was another song on the on the album,
but this whole album, Man, change my life to that
any heartbreak?

Speaker 6 (57:01):
Can you stand? Can you stand the rain?

Speaker 5 (57:04):
And can you stand the rain?

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Man?

Speaker 8 (57:05):
That song?

Speaker 5 (57:06):
And they coming home I can put them between one combo.
Can you stand the ring that coming Home?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
I don't care if you put the whole album and
the whole album man Heartbreakers.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
Man that Jam and Lewis. Man, come on, man, who
do it better than them?

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Man?

Speaker 5 (57:19):
Man? They changed the game?

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Man? Your R and B volt Trump?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Okay, Yeah, perfect R and B singer, your arm your
your perfect, your super hero.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
I want to know who you're gonna get the vocal from? Okay?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
The performance style, yeah, the styling of the artists, yeah,
in the heart of the artists, the passion of the artists.
And then, because you are a writer producer often at
this part right here, who's going to produce and write
the songs?

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
You didn't know that was co Yeah, get tricky right there.
All right, So let's start with the vocal for your
vult trump. Who you get the vocal from?

Speaker 5 (58:01):
The vocal for my R and B volt trying. I'm
gonna say Whitney and I'm gonna say Michael, because they
got the perfect vocal. They can sing soul and they
could sing pop. They can they could they can sing anything, yeah,
and make it their own. And they can take a
song no matter what genre it is, and you're gonna
you're gonna they generalists, you know what I mean. So

(58:21):
that's why I like their vocal tones. That's why like
Whitney Vocaltone. That's why like Michael Vocaltone, because well it's
like the same thing. I like the same thing about
both of them. I like that by Beyonce too, But
I'm just gonna say, you know what I'm saying, Beyonce
got that too.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Performance style.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Man, I'm gonna tell you that. I got to give
it to Bobby Brown again. But I'm gonna tell you
why he changed my life. How nasty he was on stage.
That man used to dance so hard, man and go
so hard on stage, get kicked out the stage and
all that. I'm gonna say Bobby, But really, Bobby kind
of was a He was kind of a James Brown too,
because James I was funking nasty like that too, So

(59:00):
they kind of had that same kind of thing.

Speaker 8 (59:01):
I always say something about that Brown name, Yeah, James Brown,
Bobby Brown Brown, and.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
I would put Chris to but I know Chris, he
had the river of Bobby. So like I think they
got Chriss.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Bobby, And yeah, you know what I'm saying, so he
Michael Brown, what career?

Speaker 6 (59:17):
You know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna say that too.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Styling of the artist, the drip, the drip. Who is
gonna drip? Like?

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Man, I'm gonna tell you who had the ultimate drip.
And I got to give it to this man because
for real, he would wear things that only he could
pull off. And you can say nothing about it. Prince,
the thing you could that man and for real, man
like he won't. He he will what he wanted to
well when he wanted to wear. And you if you uncomfortable,
then that you're on you.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
He added the motorcycle to it. Yeah, he motorcycle is
really important.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
Yeah he had.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, he brought all the purple. It was important.

Speaker 8 (59:56):
But you know what, and the guitar and guitar because
because Richard was on the piano, but standing with the guitars.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
But I'm gonna tell you somebody was a little bit
before Prince. They kind of set it up for him.
Rick James.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
Yeah, Rick James, you know what I mean, Like, you know,
you know Prince got a little game from Rick.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Yeah. It helps me with the lift tars, with the
faith frame, with the glitter and with that good tar. Yeah,
Rick Rick, call forget about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Rick Gamey, Rick James.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
The passion of the artist, the heart of the artists.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
The passion, Oh my god, man, the passion man, you
know who I got to give it to because in
this day and time, I know how hard it is
to keep going no matter what you go through. The passion.
I got to go to Chris Brown, listen to him.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
Man, Ain't nobody, Man, Le'm gonna tell you something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Nobody's gonna argue that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
Really, when that boy came back from you know, we
all you're gonna go through our things. We're gonna go
through issues. You know, we're gonna you know, we're gonna
make mistakes. But for him to fight back from where
he had a fail from and how they tried to
and he had to go back to doing those mixed
tapes and he had to grind his way back up
and figure it all out to get back. You know,
I think it made him a better artist. And I'm

(01:01:27):
gonna be honest with you, I kind of believe he's
still here right now because he learned from that how
to be tough, how do certain things? Certain things?

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
You seeing the dog you never gonna see in the light.
So when you kind of he's battle tested. So he
had the things he had to figure out how to
keep hisself going. Really it talking about to survive without
a label. No matter hey man, no matter who around,
no matter what you man, you.

Speaker 8 (01:01:54):
Love me, you will pull up at the record plan.
And you just saw him recreating himself.

Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
He was in that studio.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
It's not easy thing.

Speaker 8 (01:02:03):
Three months every day, every day, every night. I'm talking
about the tattoo artists in there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
You got everything that he needs in that studio.

Speaker 8 (01:02:11):
And he would play them songs and I'd be like,
I would just go by every other night and just
it was a new batch of eighty songs. It takes
a passion, takes that when everybody is telling you it's over,
it's over.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
And we all know how hard that is in this
game with man, when people stop answering the calls, when
they look at.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
You, it's done.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Step further, when they stopped answering the calls and then
they calling other people to tell them not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
To answer the call.

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
How gangs to that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
He is?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Come on, man, who's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Writing for this and or producing for this artist or
who's the writer producer, because you know we do both.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
You might have.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
You know, man, the writer producer for this artist. Man,
its joint to joint win Babyface in l A or
Jam Jam and Lewis.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
You know well you will not men.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
It's great weight. That's a great way.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Yeah man, that's a great way. Yeah yeah man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
But while you're here, we got a very very y
special segment.

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
Yeah, give him a little bit, come on, give me
just give him a little taste of what we got
coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Man, Chief, what is it called? I ain't saying no nigga.
I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
I ain't saying no names.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
Who is weird?

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
What you did?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Don't say? I ain't saying no name.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
We got so many of them here, we do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I know you dude.

Speaker 8 (01:04:00):
So right now, Yeah, we're getting to Jasper. Yeah, big love,
street love, Yes, all the love. Yeah, I ain't saying
no names. The story can be funny, are fucked up?

(01:04:22):
Are funny and fucked.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
We like those? Okay. The only rule to the game.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Yeah, I can't say no name can't say I'm about
to give y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Too oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, let me sit
up in my chair when you're feeling and you're feeling it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
So it was early in this rapper's career, rapper from
around the career, he was dating a young R and
B single. He was dating his young R and B
singer that but this young R and B singer had
just broke up with another R and B got from

(01:05:01):
another group. So you know, you know, it be transitioning,
it be weird. You know, when you transition it from one,
you know, the crossover can get weird. So when the
studio one night, so this young rapper he got his
pistol on it and he looked at me, and you
know everybody, you know, we people kind of know what's
going on. And he looked at me and he was like, man,

(01:05:23):
you know what, man, you know what, bitch, Oh man,
this pissol I got can shoot through this wall. Imagine
what it due to an R and B.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Nigga, Oh shit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
That Ralpherds said, this pistol right here, man, that by
the pistol right here shoot through their wall.

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
Imagine what it'll do to an R and B nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
That's a threat. Ship.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
I was like, oh, I hope this don't go no further.
He is not playing now, he wasn't playing like you
know what I mean, like you know, and you know
everybody in close proximity, so you know, people gonna see
it to ship. Yeah, that was funny.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Still alive, all them stuff, all them still like we
just want to make sure everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I still going right, right, and I know you un
comfortable though that moment.

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
Oh, I'm like, oh, it's for real.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Yeah, I'm doing big dogs working the little nigga in
the world.

Speaker 6 (01:06:25):
Yeah, yeah, he's worth it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
You don't got to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
You don't got to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
Y'all supposed to be from Yeah, you know, yeah, you
got it now, you ain't got to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Come on, black man, there's a man and a woman involved.
We are no longer man that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Yeah, I got to wear that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:42):
I got one more so, I mean one at this time.
This is one of my homies.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
He got one of the biggest rappers in the world
at this time. So this time we had this career working.
So we're working on songs, working on songs. All of
a sudden, I see a little dog one down step.

Speaker 6 (01:07:02):
Like dog that is right there.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
That ain't no man dog. He ain't kind of got
to have no dog like that. So the next thing
I know, I said, R and B girl walk from
up them steps and down. Hey, y'all's up to get
the dog. But the trick was, I knew that this
girl was dating the whole nother guy, and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
So I'm like another rapper.

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
He was in the rap world.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
He was in the rap world. He's in the rap world.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
So my partner, the rapper, look at me and started smiling, laughing,
it's just gigging, and.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
I said, oh man, this ga'lood.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
Close blooded. It eventually came out later on, but it
was that that was one of the moments when you
see a dog come running down steps, you know, in
his mansion whever. The dog come running down to me,
like who dog is this?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Pistols and dogs, Oh yeah, pistols.

Speaker 6 (01:07:49):
And then and then we were like and then our
answer was soon coming down those steps, and we was like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah, we man.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
He look at I think we've all been there.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
Yeah, no, y'all, y'all know, y'all I've been down.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
We're like, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
The new debut albums do some little dogs.

Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
Like I say, hey that cross over be a food
cross over, food transition.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
It's so small, it's so it's and everybody just has
to like be cool like you got you, we got.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
We all know what we like.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
I don't see nothing, I don't know nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:08:29):
Yeah, I've had to stand at the next table between
the nigga I just seen her with and her man.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
Oh that's a dog. That's a terrible.

Speaker 8 (01:08:45):
And then him showed me the text that she's texting
him from the other table with her.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
Man, that's a cold, cold game. That's a cold game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Chack R and B.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
You gotta love the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Game, thought what you better respect? You gotta respect of
the jacket or get collected.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Yes, the game is gonna pay.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
The game is gonna The game is gonna be here, man,
the player is gonna move around chain.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I don't put nothing past no man.

Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
Man, you gotta love, you gotta take it all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
You're not gonna say you fool me at all?

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Oh man, Well brother Jess, Yes, sir, brother, big love.

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
Thank y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Man, we appreciate you for kicking this off for us.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
You know, I think we needed your energy man, come on, welcoming,
welcoming us, Come on, y'all come man, Yeah, because you
really you really, you really the soil.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
Yeah, man, and George's man, I hear I like, man,
I gotta get on that with y'all. Man, we gotta
talk talk.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
You know, we're gonna need some subtitles, you know, you
know something.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
And I subconsciously like, let me try to make sure
I'm kill.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Everybody. I know they can watching like what he's saying. Again,
I need I need a.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
Translator, call it patoir. I still, I'm like, man, I'm
not said a conscious effort. I said, Man, I'm gonna try.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
To talk like I said, a conscious you know, he said,
I said a conscious effort, Yeah, saying conscious.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
In my mind. No, no, I love it. You missed
some words to go with. I said, a conscious, I
said conscious. I said, I love it all. I love
it all. Thank you pray. This is why we wanted
you hear them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Yeah, people and people need to you know, you are
great people. Hear the music, man, people hear the music.
People are dancing to the music. People have you know,
as as you say, music stamps a moment in time,
and people have that to your songs, to your to
your creativity, and they need to know who you are,
who's responsible for that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Man, And that's what we're here for. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
I appreciate it, man, you know what I'm saying. Appreciated
your spirit. They say, that's a good brother. Spread the
love and in our in our movements, good people finished.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
Man all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
So, my brother, I'm time. And this is the R
and B Money podcast, the authority on all things R
and B. And if you didn't feel the love today,
then you just wasn't trying to because we had big love.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
And the building. Yeah yeah, R and B Money.

Speaker 8 (01:11:50):
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