Jill Scott

Jill Scott sits with Tank & J. Valentine to talk about how songs start, how performances breathe, and how an artist protects her center. She walks through the making of signature records——and the choices behind phrasing, silence, and dynamics. We get into the bandstand, the poem-to-melody pipeline, collaboration that serves the story, and what she’s chasing next in the studio and on stage.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
R and B Money.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks take valoti. We are the authority on all R
and B ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Money is tank and this is the R and B
Money Podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Man be a thorty, be authority. You don't take no
short walks around here on all things, all things.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
R and B, and nothing short about what we do.
Even if we walk in it ain't short.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's gotta be long.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The walks got long.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Walk Come on, come on, come on, because you can't
get nothing done on no short walk.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Kate, you can't get knocked to know, nobody, to nobody, Oh,
no short walk anybody worth getting to.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
See.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Sometimes you're telling in your gifts I want dimension them,
and there's nothing wrong with that. But now we're about to
talk about the avenger of gifts.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Sing it.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
The other people just getting in the way.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I like what you're doing there, singing it, writing it,
all of it, producing it, spoken, wording it.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Is that a way to say that if you want
to say it?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Huh living the life?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Not did it? Yeah? Face on a stamp, man sights
on a god damp stamped?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
How do you pull that up?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm not just pull it off. She did it.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's the only person. I know they never do it
outside Harry Tumpman. Thanks, and gentlemen, I don't know how
this woman does all the things she does. And it's
still so amazingly graceful and beautiful. And the smile lights
up a room, smile like something universe. Excuse me, looks

(02:02):
golden to me. Looks golden to me, Ladies and gentlemen.
Without further ado a word, I know, Jill, Miss.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Jills got.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Finally, we've been.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Waiting, missiless because you you do stuff, you be busy.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I'll be bothering you know.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Get out of here. He didn't tell me?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Did you not tell me?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
We've been we've been waiting on this. Hi, We've been
waiting on this. We've we've been waiting to have the
grace and the elegance and the smile, you know, just
sitting right there, you know, look.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
At the smalls and at the internet.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Say something differ about that smile. I'm gonna we're gonna start.
It's just a wholesome smile to me.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
We're gonna start the Internet.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's the Lord's smiles at the end of.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Mine, as well as they.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Say, minus, let me something.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yeah, as a.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
As a I'm gonna say this with as much humility
as I can as a fellow sex symbol.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Here we go, Here we go, let's go.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
How do you how do you receive receive that conversation?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
How do I receive that conversation?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
How do you receive like being being seen and viewed?
And and do you do you accept your space in
this sexy conversation?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
I don't think I have a choice but to accept it.
I come from a family of amazon women.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Oh my mama, and yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
I'm the runt of my family. My mother six to one,
my grandmother was five eleven. Then like, oh my aunts.
Everybody's like buxom and sauce.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Good, do you want to hold them?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I still remember it. I still remember the.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
I feel like.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
If I felt that way about those women, then I
can understand why people will feel that way about me.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
You know, it's okay, I'm all right, I'm right, But.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
It's it's it's it's effortless because it's it's just in
the DNA translation so hard.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
It's in me. It ain't on me.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, what I don't know if.

Speaker 7 (05:00):
You're paying attention because it was a pipt Now just
happened real quick.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
This is you know what.

Speaker 7 (05:06):
The last Philly artists came on here with two music,
So y'all came on here.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
That that Philadelphia is something different.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
That was a great interview. I enjoyed that very much.
I love music.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
Ye when when he first started, I was I watched
your interview with him and he said something about, you know,
being so confident.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
And honestly know this, y'all, I love you, But I
don't remember that.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
I remember him being very nervous about being on stage,
and sometimes I would like hold him from the back
and guide him to the mic, you know, because that's
what the space was for. Excuse me, that's what the
space was for. We had Black Lily and we had
the Roots Jam sessions in Philly, so we all got

(05:55):
together and musicians were playing and singers were singing. MC's
were MC in and we had people that came and
paid eight dollars to see a show. And that's where
we sharpened our tools. We figured it out. Audiences enjoy this,
Audiences like this, they feel good about that. They don't
like this, you know, you got to see it from yourself,

(06:16):
your own perspective, and then you got a chance to
see it from other people as well, you know, watching
them perform, like, oh, don't do that, that's not.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Jazzy. Fat Nasty's were the hosts.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
And then I think for the Roots picnic, I mean,
I'm sorry the Roots Jam sessions, I don't think there
was a host. I think the mics just got passed around.
Scott storches on the keys and Thelile is laying on
the floor, you know, singing his heart out as you know,
the floor. Absolutely, yeah, that's that's that's where I come from.

(06:57):
We just kind of sharpened each other and I look
around and I'm like, Okay, the Roots are doing great,
and I'm doing all right, you know music, soul, child flowetry,
like the list from that time, like people did great. Yeah,
really really great.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
That comes with sharpening your tools.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
If we can go back to before you even got
to that stage, like what gets you to the stage
with the Roots and all of these amazing artists.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Like what gets you there? What start?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
What kicks it off to where you know and now
believe that you have something different that can take you
all around the world.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
I didn't know about to take them around the world part,
Like I didn't know that was real. It just didn't
want to work a nine to five, y'all. Like, I
just didn't like nine to five. That thing bothered my soul.
But this thing felt good. So it started with poetry,
which is why I'm still like, if I don't have
anything to say, I can't sing anything.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Like.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
The words matter so much to me and they give
me the pathway to be as genuine and as sincere
as I could possibly be with every word that I
say or sing. Rather, so it started with poetry. I
got my feelings hurt some boy, and I wrote a
poem about it. I shared it with some women that

(08:26):
I was hanging out with and they were like, oh
my god, that was read another one. So I read
another one and then I was like, oh that went nice,
I'll write another one. And I wrote another one because
I was just trying to deal with what this felt like,
first heartbreak first. So then I started hearing about poetry readings,
and I thought, okay.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I'll go.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
You know, it's i'll pay to get in, you know,
I'll get on the list, and then I'll read a
poem and see how that goes. Oh that went great,
Oh okay, I'll do it again.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
It went good for you for the first time.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah great. I was like, okay, I'll do this again.
This is fun. This is fun.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
I get to see people hang out, you know, people
buy me drinks. I don't get any money yet, you.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Know, but nonetheless, this feels good. So I continued.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
And then one night I was in a car with
a friend and this guy pulls up.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
And I was literally across the street from my house.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
This guy pulls up and he goes listen, knocking on
the glad Vincent knocking on the glass.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
My friend said, I ain't Vincent, it neither she. He
was like, Vincent Vincent, come on, man, do me like
j man on me yet?

Speaker 6 (09:39):
And then he went and pulled out. I saw the
butt of a gun. My friend takes off down the street.
I don't know what I was thinking. I guess I
just panicked. So I opened the car door and I
grabbed him. I think I'm gonna pull him over the dash.
I don't know what I was thinking, but I was
just I don't know. I panicked, and he dropped.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
What he had was on fire, like yeah, so and
we took off.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
He thought he had gotten shot because he was burning
right the bell fell and he thought he thought he
was on fire, like he thought he was shot. The
vincent man my friend who was not vincent, and I
was not vincent. We just happened to be sitting across
the street from my house in a car and he
took off. And the next day I was like, there's

(10:28):
really no other words. I was fucked up, like fucked
up because North Philly had always been this place that
was like safe for me. Crack addicts knew me, drug
dealers do me. They carried my mother's groceries home. You know,
cracka is a creep up on you. I turned around,
I'm like, oh, hey, you you know what I mean.
Like I was good in the hood, now wasn't. Now wasn't,

(10:52):
And that it messed me up, took me off, like
really off kilter, like outside of myself.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I was a friend for the first time in the hood.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Now it sounds wild because I grew up, you know,
where people were getting murdered a lot. But somehow I
wasn't afraid, But now I was. So I went to
a poetry reading the next day in my pajamas because
I couldn't fathom on how to put on clothes.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
I wore my pajamas and I got up to say
a poem and I sang and I sang I think
what did I sing? I sang Poorgy and bess what's
the name of the song?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Summertime? Sang Summertime?

Speaker 6 (11:39):
And when it was done, the room was silent, and
then they blew up. Everybody stood up, people started running,
you know, oh my god, waiting it this whole time,
they didn't know, you know, and I never really said
anything because it was mine, my little voice, It was mine,

(12:00):
and everybody liked it so much.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
So I started to do it.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Was doing it more because it felt good, you know,
like it felt good.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
So I did it.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Again and it went well, and I did it again
and then I was like, hey, you know, I'll add
some poetry to this singing and see how this works.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
And it went well.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
And then I added a DJ and that went well,
and it just seemed like this was this was right.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
So you're doing all of your own artist development.

Speaker 7 (12:27):
Yeah, building out your own yes, but but yeah, yeah,
full audit in front of live audience.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
Yeah, in front of a live audience who let me know,
let me know whether it was working or not. You
know if it was good, if it was solid. I'd
love the moments when I would say or sing or
do something and then the space will go.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Oh that that I still live for it.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Oh the moment, the silence, a teary eye girl, the
silence and then the breath and how deep the breath
is or how shallow the breath is. All of that
tells you what to do next. It gives you direction
on how to move the crowd.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
Yeah, but you're speaking from a real place of a
real performer, thank you, because I think a lot of
the artists don't even get that intricate into understanding who
and what they're performing for. Are you know the whole
purpose of it, like you said, and what actually gets
you going? Because as a performer, it has to get

(13:42):
you going.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
You have to be excited.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
You have to be excited, you have to want it.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
The hardest thing for me is to go to a
concert and look at the artists and be like, oh,
they're just getting through it.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
We've all seen it.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
I've seen it.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, And that's really tough because I think from me,
I look into it and I'm like, ah, that's sad,
Like I get it.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
Maybe you need to, you know, you gotta get your money.
But when you especially this thing that that that we
do it in entertainment, if you if you can't enjoy it,
you probably should do something else. Yeah, it has to
start with the enjoyment of it, because I mean, obviously,
if you get to the Jill Scott level, you get
the fruit, but everyone doesn't.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah. Yeah, and what's the stanger.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Something has to keep you going in this there's.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
A place for everybody.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
Yes, you know, whether you're in a lounge, if you
like what you do, you like what you do. You
know what you wanted to do is pay your bills. Yeah,
that's that's a good life when you enjoy something so
much and it takes care of your lifestyle and you
might be able to take a trip, you know, that's
nice like a mon No, that's a holiday.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
There's a holiday.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
But if you could do that, like, then you're living
a good existence. Not everybody has to be at Madison
Square Garden. Sometimes you have to be you're the person
that is happy to be at the jazz club.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Oh my god. That's a wonderful life.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
Absolutely, and it's doing something that makes you feel good.
I think your work should feel good, no matter how
late you stay in the studio, no matter how many
times you can't get a sample clear, no matter how
many times you know this thing or that thing doesn't
show up when you need it to for whatever reason,

(15:38):
Like you gotta, there's got to be something to keep
you there.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, I want to, I want to. I want to
go back to something. You said that that that it
was something that I had to learn to navigate. And
you said the silence, yeah hearing that that breath.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
And mal artists always want screens.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
No, no, no, no, it wasn't, is it?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Because you gotta.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
You gotta think, Like my my true intro into the
R and B game was singing backgrounds with genuine m hmm.
So all I know is screaming if they're if they're
making some noise, and then the church as well, if
it ain't Hallelujah and some worship going on, and you
you might not be tapped into the spirit like you

(16:27):
think you are, right, takeing time, and then you take
it time. You're fucking up. But that's what I knew.
And then when I started performing, I would have moments
where I would, you know, be playing my pen and singing,
and people would just be like, like what you say.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
And I'd be like a terrifying scary.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I'm like, dad, I say nothing. And it took me
a minute to even learn learn what it was and
then how to navigate it, and then it became my
favorite thing. It's like, oh, they are listening. They are
They are really locked in with they are getting something
from this, and that is the point that they don't

(17:16):
want to miss by making too much noise or jumping
up and down like they are, like, you don't do
it at dinner when you when you at dinner, you
sit down at your plate and you eat, you enjoy
your food, and they are you know what I'm saying,
They're they're being fed at that moment, and that the

(17:37):
attention to it and the way they react is just
so different. It took me such a long time to understand.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
That it's a high. Yeah, it's a high. And when
you have a band, like I have a band.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, so I don't.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I don't read music. I wish did. I can still
go to school.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
I can still learn how to do it, don't mess
it up.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
But I don't want to mess it up.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
That's what I'm thinking like that's what frightens me, that
I'm going to mess it up somehow. So and I
want it, but I explained to my musicians what I
want through storytelling, through taste. I'll say things like it's
not quite yellow enough, right, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Hoping I'm waiting to see dy nose what I'm talking about,
and somebody will go like this, and I'm like, y.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yes, but I still don't think he mails with yellow.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
But he does, or but he does, but they do.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Is it you?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Because when you said yellow, I was like, I don't
know what that is. But if you said you're yellow
yellow a certain.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Way, it's your yellow.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Because if you said I need it more yellow, but
if you said I need it more yellow.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
Probably would and I probably would, and I probably do.
I know it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
So I know it does because the way you say
a word is not just the word, it's yours.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's everything that comes along with the word.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
They have to be so patient with me because I
have to.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
I tell them stories and I'll I'll bring in something
to taste. This is what it should feel like, and
everybody will get going. They'll start playing and fiddling, and
you know, touching and moving and next thing, you know,
they come back together and it's what I wanted. It's
what I wanted, but it's just missing a little bit
of salt.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
And they're like in the background singers.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
You know, they'll come in and do this thing and
it's it adds another flavor and it's the right flavor
or it's not what I was thinking, but it's way
better than what I was thinking. That is that's rehearsal
with me. This is how I how I do it.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
I don't know how we got to this part of
the cover, say this girl.

Speaker 7 (20:02):
It leads to so many different things, right, Like it's
a process him and I wanted.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
We did.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
We did breakfast club and they asked us about this
whole AI thing, right because that's the thing, that's like
the new thing. Everybody wants to talk about it. But
the truth of the matter is AI can't do that.
AI doesn't feel like that. So when his response was
I'm up for the fight, I ain't do over there.

(20:29):
I don't care what they're doing over there. They can
do more of it.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
So what But some people took that as oh, you go.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
The level of the big you know, I read the comments.
Comments don't bother me. They are funny to me, and
I look at them as research. So I'm reading the comments.
I'm seeing the people that are just like, oh, you
at such a high level of this, and y'all didn't
signed the stuff backdoor, deal with the.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
People, nigga.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
I don't know the AI people, Okay, ship, I don't know.
I know, I know Alan right so, but for us,
I think what we were just really saying at the
end of the day was is that the type of
gifts that you were born with, the things that you
understand about music and the amazing musicians.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
That you're around, they can't recreate that. They can't recreate
the feeling. There's no seasoning in that. It's just not does.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Sound good though. I heard a couple of thingsund.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
But I can pick it out. I was like this,
Oh that's too good.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, yeah, because there's so much value or there's so
much there's so much golden imperfection, imperfection.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yes, that's the juice.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
That's the stuff, man, that's the juice.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Like in the middle of a show and the musician
will go left for whatever reason and everybody will.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
Look like all right, all right, and then afterwards, you know,
we're all slapping them and like, yeah, motherfucker, you go
do you know it's.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Exciting and you need people for that.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yes, you need people for that.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
You need people for that.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
But teach your kids prompts.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Okay, what the prompts.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
So the prompts are what you're putting into the program
that are that's helping create exactly the AI and the
narrative what you're getting back, you know what I mean,
Like you just.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Got to learn, you know, add your flavor to it.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
So with like anything else, you just have to feed it.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Well you got to feed it.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Got it?

Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yeah, okay, because it's here, it's going back like anything else.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Take me to.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
The Discovery hum of Jill Scott. What what spoken word
venue did they find you in?

Speaker 6 (23:11):
I was everywhere, Yeah, libraries, coffee shops, theaters.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Bar mitzvahs.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
You're doing this every day.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
I did it whenever I wasn't working or going to school.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
Because I was going to ask you about that, because
you said you didn't want to do the nine to.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Five No, So what job did you have?

Speaker 4 (23:29):
I worked at Cachet.

Speaker 6 (23:31):
It was a clothing store for women on Walnut Street
in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Okay, yeah, was that like the ratchet clothing like it was.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
High end clothing at a lot of wealthy customers. They
we would get them sushi and wine or or sack
while they shocked.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
And this was you know.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
I didn't fit in when I first got there, but
I was a really good saleswoman. So I learned, you know,
to wear the clothes and the thing and the stuff,
and we got commissioned. So, yeah, I was working at
Cachet and I was going to school and what else.
M I was working at Cache until I met one

(24:15):
customer that I loved.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
I adored her.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
I always made the space real special for her, get
her little fresh flowers, you know, because.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
She liked that.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
And this is in the Philadelphia.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yeah, in the store m hm. So I put her
stuff aside. I would take her size out of everything,
put it to the.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Side, call her up.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
I got something and she'd be like, okay, I'm on
my way. So she would come and we would talk
and she would tell me about her life and I
would listen because she was rich, and I was like,
what happens with.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I want to know?

Speaker 6 (24:46):
She gave me an Infinity key from her car because
they didn't need it anymore. It was this huge key
and I carried it forever until somebody got me for it.
But it always made me think of her, like the possibilities,
this infinity that I'm holding.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
In my hands. Yes, yeah, it's a tangible I dream. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
So I don't want to say her name. So one
day I get a call she wants some stuff. I
have it, I put it aside. I go to her house.
I've never been to her house. I am geeked. There's
a doorman, it's in walking distance. It's fantastic. The chandeliers,
all the stuff. I was like, Oh, I went upstairs.

(25:31):
The elevator had a velvet chair in the elevator. In
this was this they lived in like a condominium, type
of three story penthouse business.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
She was rich chucking.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
So I go in there and there are backs everywhere,
unopened backs of new stuff everywhere on the stairwell, in
the kitchen. Their bags were walking around bags as I

(26:08):
show her what's in the bag, and I think that
was it for me. I was like, she's got an
addiction and you're not helping. You're not helping at all.
You gotta find something else to do.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Shody.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
So that pushed you out of it.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
It pushed it turned me off. Wow, because I realized
that I was.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Like hustling her and she had a problem. I didn't
feel good. I don't do you know what I'm saying.
Like I followed the things that feel good and the
things that don't.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
I'm like, ah, that's okay. I could do something else.
So I was going to school and I got a call.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
I was in.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
I was school to be an English teacher, which was
very exciting. I got my kids to pay attention to Shakespeare.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
It was great.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
I gave them melodies for Shakespeare and they would do
wop to Shakespeare. They were geeked about it.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
You have none of these teachers. I probably would have stayed,
would have graduated.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
It was great.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
I loved it, but I wanted to do more because
i'm student teaching now. This is like I'm almost there,
and I go to the principal and I was like, listen,
the walls of gray.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Floors are gray, lockers.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
Are gray, Like we need some color in this space
because I feel defeated.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
When I walk in.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
And he said, oh, to be young and idealistic, you'll
get over it soon. That didn't feel good. I was like, not,
I'm not doing this. And on the walk home from
the school, which was around the corner from my house,
I was upset because here I have made three years

(27:50):
in going to school to be an English teacher, and
I realized that I was going to be met with
a bunch of resistance than one resistance.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
I feel like it should feel good, it right? So
I'm pissed.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
I quit my job. I quit school because I quit school.
I didn't just say I wasn't I was gonna change majors.
I was working two jobs just to go to school.
Like going to school, I'm paying this money and then
I'm owe it to them and I'm never going to
make enough to pay him back.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Like this is this isn't. This doesn't feel good?

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
So I got to my house. I hear the phone ringing,
but I can't find a key. The phone is ringing.
You know the phones that are connected to the wall,
you know, a house phone the house. Yeah, So I
get the key and I'm not walking fast because I'm like, man,
if I miss it, I miss it. I don't know
who this is. But I get to the phone and

(28:46):
it's a friend. I'm gonna say his name, same as
Ozzie Jones, and Izzie Jones says, what are you doing?
I said nothing. It said, by this time, I'm reading poetry,
I'm singing. He's been saying, I think you're an actress
and now he's a director plays. And I was like, yeah, okay,
you know if you say so okay, and he he says,

(29:10):
there's an apprenticeship at a theater company. It's called the
Ardent Theater Company. It pays two hundred and fifty dollars
a week. They'll give you free acting classes. That's where
he got me. They'll give you free acting classes, but.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
You'll work free.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
You'll work fourteen hours a day, six days a week,
two hundred and fifty dollars a week and health insurance.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
So I'm already at home in my mom's house, you know, okay.
So I interviewed for it and I got it. I
was twenty five, twenty five.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
They came in. Everybody in there is white, everybody, rute
of the dude. Nice people, lovely people are all theater
experience I have none. I don't know what downstage is,
I don't know what stage right is. I don't know anything,
but I'm there, and they worked a snot out of me.

(30:13):
I oh boy, I carried three by fives up three
four flights of stairs. We were building a theater, which
meant there needed to be demolition in this warehouse that
they purchased. So I'm using a jackhammer. I'm using a sledgehammer.
I am mopping the floor in this theater company. It's

(30:36):
pretty big, Okay. I'm mopping the floor. I'm cleaning the toilets,
I'm selling the tickets, I'm sewing the clothes, I'm hanging
the lights, I'm building the sets, the stages. I'm twenty
five right with no idea what I'm gonna do next.
Everybody else is a graduate of Berkeley. They're great graduates

(31:00):
of of of N y U. They're They're these young,
talented people and this is their big opportunity, this theater company.
I didn't know it was my big opportunity because but
I learned so much while I was there. We did
musical theater. Had no idea, you know, I had no idea.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
I mean, I knew because I listened to musical theater.
My mother took me to plays. But I came in
there singing s W V so they kind of yes, great,
jam great. They didn't take me seriously until I started

(31:44):
singing Sondheim and then they were like.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Ye, what that is.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
It's this guy. I'm sorry, no disrespect. He's written a
lot of amazing plays. But it's time for more theater,
new theater, amazing theater, you know. But I learned everything
from this one theater company. I worked there for two years.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
It was only for supposed to be for a year,
but I didn't have anything to do, so I just stayed.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Yes, I stayed and I learned.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
And I thank you, Izzie, thank you so much for that,
because that led me to another apprenticeship at another theater company,
the oldest in America. And I got a call from
a girlfriend, Stephanie Renee. Stephanie said, oh, they got their
auditioning for rent.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
You should go.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
And I was like, but I'm teaching poetry at the camp.
She's like, well, it's at you know, it's like at
one o'clock. And I started my class with the camp
was early in the morning, so I was like, I'll go.
After I came looking terrible. I had a basketball in
my hand. I was bouncing the ball like I ain't
gonna get this shit.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'm like, where this just tooks?

Speaker 6 (33:04):
I just got okay because I was coming from camp
and I played this game.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
It was out of minepia. So you know, when you
throw the ball at somebody, somebody says bye, and then
somebody else will say ooh somebody, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Like We're going around and it was fun and then
we started making rhythms and it was great.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
It was fun. Love that.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
So here I am auditioning for rent and I ended
up getting a callback, and then I got another call back,
and I got another callback, and I got another callback.
By the sixth time, I said, if these people they
know by now if they want to hire me or not.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
They don't want to hire me because I don't have
anything that they all now.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
So I'm like, okay if they if they don't, they
don't hire me, you know, like they should know by now, right.
Didn't hear for anything, like two months. So I'm just
working my little.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Jobs doing poetry here.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
I'm working at a camp there, you know, whatever I
can do and to keep afloat. And then I get
a call, can you leave in three days to go
do rent in Canada. I've never been out of the
country round myself like this is wild. I said, yes,
how much you say? How much you say?

Speaker 4 (34:18):
It was great.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
I think at the time I was getting like seventeen
hundred dollars a week plus seven hundred dollars per dim.
I had nothing. I had nothing, so this was great,
a great opportunity. And I went out of the country
and I did Rent and it was great. That people
were awesome. I love them. We had such a good time,
such sweet spirits, and the rent heads were amazing.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Those are the people who loved the play.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
And they would sleep outside the theater and they had
pictures of you, and they would it.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Was like Rent was a big deal.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
It was.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
It was. It was a little bit of big deal.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
It was a little bit.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
It was.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
It was enough for me. But it was good and
I enjoyed that.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
And then they asked me if I wanted to do go.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
To Broadway, and I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
There is a gift of discipline in theater that I
will have in two instances.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
One I'll be broke.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
Or it's amazing one or the other. You feel what
I'm saying. If I'm broke, I might be on Broadway.
That sounds wild, or if it's amazing, like if I
need a job because that hustle, that mindset, that day
to day, being in the same light with the same people,

(35:45):
We're in the same clothes, saying the same thing, almost
the same way.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
You didn't experience that, God bless you didn't. I don't
think I would. I would have cracked.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
So I had to choose between I know I jumped,
didn't I I had to choose between a record deal
or Broadway Broadway.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yes. Oh, they were on the table at the same time.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Yes, And I chose the record deal.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Listen. I've only been to Broadway to see take So
I would.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Love to have that experiment. I just wanted to be
something that's amazing. Yeah, like real bad. I really wanted. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
So, how I got the record deal? I had been calling.
So now I'm a poet in the city.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
People know they're paying up the forty five dollars to
have me come and perform it. That's stuff, you know.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
So I thought I could probably write a song. So
I started writing little songs songs before No, no, right,
I'm just a poet writing poet.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
So I was like, I probably could write a song.
Yeah maybe.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
So I started calling the producers that I knew, because
these jam sessions had all the musicians at them.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
You know, are all of these James.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Poyser's playing Questlove is playing the drums, Scott Storage is
on the keys, like the Leonnard Hubbard's on the base,
what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Thaddyus Trebette.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
All of these amazing musicians are in Adam Blackstone.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
They're all there.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
So I started calling the studios that they told me
they were working at. And because I'd never been to
a studio before, so I was like, not a real one,
somebody's basement one time. But I called and nobody called
me back. And I called every day, nobody called me
back for like six months, and then eventually I was

(37:44):
on the street headed to the Theater Company because I
was doing something with them. And there's Jazzy Jeff and
on the street with Rich Medina, a very popular poet
in Philadelphia at the time. So I know Rich, and
there is Jazzy Jeff, and I've been calling his studio.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yes, so I don't have a lot for him.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
Hi, I never met the man in my life, like
it was right, because I called every day you know
what I'm saying, like, come on, man, somebody the musicians
know me. They should, I know they do. Andre Harris
like they know me. Dremvidal they're working with him. Like
somebody should be like, you should let her come?

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Nobody did.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
So I was like hi, and then I went on
about my business and Jeff, according to Rich, said who's that.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
He said, that's Jill Scott. He said, that's Jill Scott.
He said, yes, that's Joe Scott.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
Then I got a call can I come? And I
was mad, but I went. But I was mad, but
I went. So I get over there and there's there's
music in every room in this studio, there's every everybody
is playing something amazing in each room.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
And I'm walking around. I don't know what to do.
I don't I mean, what am I supposed to do?
What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 6 (39:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
So I'm just there and I know people, so I'm like, hey,
what's up? But they're in work mode, you know, they're focused,
They're touching things, you know, and hidding stuffies. And I
was like, oh, I don't know, I don't know, but
I'm here.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
I'm cracking jokes and you know, but it seems like
my time's up and nobody's giving me any music to
write too. And I'm like, oh, so, who what are
you gonna do with the studio?

Speaker 4 (39:39):
And Jeff was like, yeah, just like that. He was like,
what do you mean. I was like, you got a
lot of exposed would here. You should probably staying in
pole your thing neck and he was I think it
would look very nice. And he was like, you're not
think I wouldn't think it would look nice.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
And I was like, I could do that for you,
and I did. I stayed in pole. You're thing in
the lobby.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
If you do.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
So I could be there. That's how I got to stay.
Oh this is great, so I could be there because
I didn't want to. It was so great, but nobody
was giving me anything to do.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
But you have to I was explaining this to my son.
In life, you have to create a need. If someone
doesn't need you for something, that means like you have
to like, okay, what's missing around here?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Oh they need and such and such here? Hey, I
can do that. Most people most humans don't think that way.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Oh I didn't want to go, and you got to
end this part too. They don't even know sometimes that
they needed until you.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Say, because he didn't know he did.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
He was fine with the raw wood. He was he
was good.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
So I stayed in polyr Thainly Lobby and I hummed
a lot and I.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Listened whenever the door will open. I almost died because
poll of your thing is very, very strong, so I
had to hold the door open.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Had building sets.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
My mother told me how to stay in pot of
your thing.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Okay, yeah, yes, your family's amazing Amazons. And they do stuff.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
Lay down hardwood, forward, make your pair of pants, make
you smoothie that you won't have to eat it all
for the next two days like they do these things.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yeah, she could do it. Amazing these women. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
So one day I'm there, I'm listening in the room, listening,
and I don't know who was it might have been Jeff,
but he gave me a tape with a bunch of
songs on it. I wrote to everything that I heard
because I didn't know not.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
To like something. I was like, the job is you
write a song? Everything on here.

Speaker 6 (42:06):
So on the bus I would write while I was
actually while I was auditioning for rent. On the bus
from Philadelphia to New York I would write the songs
to the tape he gave me, So mind you rent disappears,
They're disappeared. They're going for a couple of months. But
I'm coming to the studio pretty regularly just to be there,

(42:29):
and Jeff decided to give me a ride home, which
I thought was huge. Jazzy Jeff is giving me a
ride home in North Philly. I was like, you know,
I living in North Philly, right. He's like, yeah, yeah,
I'll take you home. I was like, it's in North
Philly where I live.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
He he was like, I take you home.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
And I was like, okay. So a couple of things happened.
We're in the car. This lady jumps out of the
car from behind us.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
And she's screaming and hollering Jazzy Jeff, Jasey Jeff, Jessey Jeff.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
And he rolls down the window and she's just talking
to him. Her car door's open, and there was a
baby in the back seat. I could see it from
the rear view, and I was like, this is fame.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Mm hmm, Like that's nuts.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Excuse me.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
I'm like, that's nuts for that to even happen. Scared
the hell out of me. Scared me pretty good. But nonetheless,
on after we after we left that lady, he put it.
I put in the tape and I sang a long
walk and he was like, you sing. I was like,

(43:38):
I'm just showing you how it goes. And he was like,
you sing to.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
The hold on to the actual track. Yeah, long walk track.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah, it was done.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
It was done, and right there in his face, yeah okay.

Speaker 6 (43:56):
Yeah, and he liked it, and I liked it too,
and uh.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
And I liked it too. I liked it so much.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
And then he was like you sing and I just agreed, yes, yeah, okay,
if you say so. Singing with something that was mine,
it's personal, so at.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
This point you don't want to share.

Speaker 6 (44:20):
It, nah, Jesse Jeff said, I was good, So I
figured I might be.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
That just might be.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
And then when you know, when I after that crazy
night with the high guy at Vincent, that felt good too.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
You know, I think I can. I think I can.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
Okay, Okay, I think I think I can. So I started,
you know, I'm singing all the songs.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
They said, you go in the studio, what do I
do it here?

Speaker 6 (44:49):
I don't touching, you know, They're like oh, I didn't
get that, And I'm like, okay, I sang things from
the top to the bottom, top to the bottom, tip
to the bottom. Every time I didn't know that you
stopped and start again.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Well I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
You don't. You don't have to.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Now you don't. I mean, well I didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
You You were doing something different. You had a different
kind of gift.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
Each one was a different version version of it, which
is why theater and I. You know, somebody's got to
work with me and him or I got to work
for it, either or or both. But you know, they're
just collecting these songs. That's when I was auditioning for Rent.
This is happening all at the same time. I'm still
doing all of these things. And I got Rent and

(45:41):
I was like, all right, y'all, I see you when
I get back. And that's when I got the call
while I was over, while I was in Vancouver that
I got a record deal.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
So somebody was shopping.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Somebody, Yes, yes, they were shopping. While I think I'm
just recording stuff. I think I'm just recording. I didn't
think about a record deal.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
What saw me? Demo?

Speaker 6 (46:01):
Is it the way a long walk getting in a way. Slowly, surely, slowly,
surely was fun. I didn't know the microphone was here,
and I was like I should. In my head, I
was like, I should sound like I'm walking away. Walking
away would be a good thing. So I started backing
up out of the studio and I opened the door.
You could hear the door opening in the in the recording,

(46:23):
and I'm backing out and I'm going slow tiptoe away surely,
and then I closed the door and it was done.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
I didn't know. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
Like now, it's wild to me how much I didn't know,
and how wonderful it was to find out stuff. Just
learn as I go, try and see, and you never
know what to work or what won or anything. I'm
very grateful that I had to touch a jazz because

(47:01):
they were very supportive. They were like brothers to me.
I was in a safe environment. They took care of me.
We shared cheese steaks, you know what I'm saying, because
we had to, because we had to being in that
kind of space where so many dip Carvin Hagen's Love
You Forever. That's my cousin. He's my actual biological cousin.

(47:21):
We found out Wow.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Carvin Hagen's is he produced a lot of music, right, okay,
of course?

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Is now just.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
You know, yeah, that was a great environment. I suggest
that to any.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
So have you already written you got me before?

Speaker 4 (47:59):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (48:00):
Yes, I was at a poetry reading. I think this
might have been all happening at the same time. You
just don't know, you know what's happening like, you don't
know no way to know all the pieces that are
moving in your favor. You have no idea met a
poetry reading, there's questlove. He says, hey, you write songs.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
I say yes, I.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
Hadn't written songs yet. He said, I need you to
write a hook. Can you write a hook? I was
like yes, and I went where he told me to go,
which happened to be with the guy from the poetry readings,
Scott Storge.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Scott Scott, what up? He said, you want to you know,
let's burn one and let's write something. I said, okay.
He played one melody. I sang one thing, and then
we went out to dinner.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
And you forgot about it.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Yeah, Scott gave it to the roots. The roots loved it.
Erica sang it ended up winning a Grammy. Just try
and stuff, try to stuff, try to stop, try to stop,
give it a shot. See what happens.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
This path is amazing. I know it's amazing. I know
it's amazing.

Speaker 7 (49:15):
But the one thing that I've noticed is that you
were prepared for every opportunity that came your way. Why
but even if you weren't, you were willing to go
after it and to learn.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, yeah, you were prepared.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
You were. You were because because because not in terms
of you understanding technical structure right and how things are
supposed to go. But to me, ultimately what worked is
how things were supposed to go for you. Yep, you

(49:54):
stumbled on or you created something that felt good to
you during that process, and like.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
The results of that, twenty five, twenty six years later,
it's still good.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Oh it's so good.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
It's still good, still feels good.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
I'm still getting jobs and you know, I'm still meeting
amazing people.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
They're like, you want to write something with me? Yes,
yes I do.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
It's still taking us four years for you to come
sit down with us. So yeah, it's still still working.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Work.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
It was looking for you when we first started, we
were trying to be a penciled in.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
We're trying to figure it out?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
What about next month? Right? Yea, I don't believe that.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
I don't. I don't believe that. I think I would
have been told.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Listen, we we weren't ready yet.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Oh yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Know we had we had to reach a certain level,
but we didn't have.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
So let me ask you a question and.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
In like, you're like this space that you live in,
and like, yes you know, Okay, yes I can Yep,
now I got it.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
You live in this really cool.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
You.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
You know, you know what you are, right, But you're not.
You're not boastful, You're not You're not any of those
things to where you would project yourself to be more
than or all you know, or or better than you do.
You never do that, right, I would, but foolish. But
at what point do you Because when you drop this

(51:29):
album with all these monsters on.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
It, on the demo, the from the demo, do you do.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
You get to at some point look at yourself in
the mirror and say I am a superstar?

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Never?

Speaker 6 (51:46):
No, no, I have no no. I've been waiting for
this time my whole life, my whole life, I have
been waiting to be this age I've been I've been waiting.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
To be this full. You can take that literally, figuratively,
whatever way you want to. I've been waiting for this.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Because I watched my my, my aunt and my mother.
I watched these women bloom into something else in front
of my eyes. So I've been waiting for this. Oh,
I've been waiting for this. I don't know what's going
to happen. I don't know when. I do know that
I have an album coming.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yes, Yes, new album, Yes album.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
Yes, I said would have said, I meant what I meant,
and I'm really proud of that.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
I'm really proud of that. But I've been waiting for this.
This is this is this.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
Is the age I've been waiting for. I don't know
what it is about this, but I'm very excited to
be here. I'm very happy that I'm still able able,
very happy to be here. And and that's what it is.
I'm not ready for that. I'm not ready for that.
I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. This is

(53:02):
the whole honest God, light skinned girls in North Philly
had to fight for their lives. I never understood what
was happening around me. My grandmother is so brown that
her nickname was blue. I could not figure out, for

(53:23):
the life of me why light skin and long hair
equated beautiful. I could not get it. It didn't make
sense to me. And then I felt like I could
be possibly light skinned with long hair.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Can't do anything about it. My cousin's a hairdresser. She
does my hair. She keeps looking nice.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
You know.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
My mother goes to the good thrift stores. You know,
she gets me loafers with dimes in it.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
You know, Like, I.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
Can't stop this this part. But what I will not
do is I will not be conceited.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
I will not.

Speaker 6 (53:57):
It's not gonna happen ever ever. Ever I made I
won't say I made a deal, because that's that's not
my place.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
But we had a.

Speaker 6 (54:07):
Conversation, me and the Good Lord. We talked about humility
and remaining even keeled. And I was twelve. That was
I remember very well, and the what the price for
becoming egotistical? I don't want to pay it. So I

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will remain myself and I will I will not. I'm
not gonna be with with what they want me to be.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
All the time.

Speaker 6 (54:42):
Maybe sometimes, but whatever that like, superior, whatever that is.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
I don't. I cannot. I don't want to pay that price,
and that's what it is. Period.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Well it warn't be money.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Hm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
We're allowed to let you know.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
I thought you ain't got to said yourself.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
We're gon We're allowed to let you know. Oh boy, you're.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
An absolute you are to be celebrated us.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yes, you are forced to reckon with the universe. Of
all times I've.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Seen you can't, I've been you need a friend, I
just yes and no. Yes, but I'll say no because.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
But I'm gonna say yes to be.

Speaker 7 (55:40):
Able to command that m because I've seen so many
people in that super Dome.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
That super Dome will swallow your ass up period you
think you ready and will.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Go back to that what they called the super lowns.

Speaker 9 (56:00):
A super lown take your ass back to super or
some off site.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yeah, take your back to Convintion Center.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
You wore the House of Blues kind of super the.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
Super with this echo and these people that's walking back
to go get to what they call.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
The bud An in the fact they're gonna eat.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
They're going.

Speaker 7 (56:23):
But when Jill Scott gets on there, man, please, everyone
is doing.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
This, man, please, they running today? Yeah. Else the feeling.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Good, feeling good.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
Yeah, yeah, and it's and that's why I say, for
me seeing you in that type of space, I just
respect it in a different light because I've seen when
artists go from different you know, different venues and how
they I already know what you're gonna do at the
Blue Note, I know what you're gonna do at some ropes.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
You know what I'm saying you. That room's gonna be incredible.

Speaker 7 (56:58):
But sixty seventy thous and people acting like they're in
the summer.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
That's that part. You turn, you turn, don't.

Speaker 7 (57:07):
Know the person next to them, literally from across the country.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
That's different.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
That is good, it's different.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
That that's great.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Thank you, it's great.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
I seen my own eyes and then you know, you did.
The microphone stuff.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Went on went on the internet.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Yeah, I got yeah, viral, lots of conversations, lots of
conversations about that one.

Speaker 7 (57:34):
So can I ask, since we're there, yes, was that
premeditated for you?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Like, okay, I'm going to add this to my show.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
No, no, no, it kind of happened one night. I
was talking about conflict resolution.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Conflict, conflict, conflict.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
In going through.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Sometimes you know, it's alution.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
Sometimes and that's what we were talking about. And it
was so funny and it worked so well that I
added it to the show. And I must have been
doing that skit maybe off and on for about five
years before it went viral.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
So my audience, God bless you, love you. They kept
it amongst us for five years, they kept it together.
It was it was.

Speaker 6 (58:32):
A secret funny. It was a secret you know, key
key between us. And then somebody was there and they
didn't they didn't know what was happening, and they were
like what. And then it went viral and I was like, damn,
you're not going to understand out of context.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
But what I do during my show.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
I grew up watching like Bette Midler and Carol Burnett
and Whoopi Goldberg and in the middle of the show,
you know, just stop and I'll maybe I'll do a
monologue or a joke or like I used to have
this thing called ball Fresh, you know, for for for.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Men whose balls.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Think that's where I thought this, and.

Speaker 6 (59:12):
Yeah, and I would every time I would, I would
do a commercial for ball Fresh.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
And every time I would do a commercial, yes, it
was a commercial in the middle of the show.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
And then I had a can, it had a BF
on it and all kinds of flowers and stuff. And
then I'd be like, if your balls stink terribly, why
don't you trying? You know, got to cue my triangle,
think ball fresh? And you know, then I would get
the musicians. I'd be like, hey, so tell me about

(59:42):
your story, and they would go in the character and
tell me.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
You know, my wife, it had the smell of my balls.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
You should smell like garbage juice.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
And you know then, well, and now you tried ball fresh.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
So we had a bunch of things and that one
just happened to go crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
And here's the thing. I grew up listening to Millie Jackson. Yep,
me and my mom in the basement with some man
of chevins listening to the pointed sisters and Milly Jackson,
what are you talking about? All the way live.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Out?

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
And I loved it. I loved it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
Like I said, I come from Amazon women. They are
not shy about any parts of themselves and are beloved
for it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
I watch my aunts, I watch my.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
Mom, I watch men fall at their feet, anything you want, Annie,
And it was. It was wonderful, fascinating. Sometimes they be
a size eight or ten. Sometimes they be a size twenty.

(01:00:58):
It didn't seem to make a difference. They still had
the same effect on the men. They had that effect
on And I watched that, and I have no reason
to not be all of myself. They're like, oh, she
put it down her throat. No, I just made you
think I did. I just made you think I did.

(01:01:20):
I'm an actor, That's what I do. I made it
look good, real good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
I mean, you're an actor for sure, not just an actor.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
I mean I've I've learned.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
I've had a great experience acting from you know, like
I said, building the sets and hanging the lights and
so on, the costumes and running lines with great actors,
really amazing actors that have gone on to do TV
shows and Broadway plays, and like I see them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
You consider yourself first a writer, a writer. So that's
the first thing of all things. Somebody asks you just
got what are you a writer?

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):
Yep, Because we had that conversation with Till about what
we the occupation.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And what do you what do you?

Speaker 7 (01:02:18):
What do you write down? Is your occupation? What did
he say it's crazy about?

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
He writes down a boxer, he writes down the way
a boxer.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
He's a boxer first, walking around like.

Speaker 7 (01:02:31):
Because to me, like I was saying on that episode
that I just didn't consider what we do to be
work like this is something I just love, all forms
of entertainment. It's just what I love to do. So
I don't I don't really know what to put. I've
never known what to put.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
So writer, what do you put?

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I think I just put entertainer trying a whole bunch
of shit too. Those it's like a label owner.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
That sounds cool, that sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
A doctor.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I do have a doctor, Jay Irving, when I grow up?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Label owner? Label owner?

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
When did I meet you? Jay Irving?

Speaker 6 (01:03:14):
At the five spot and one of those jam sessions?
And when did I meet you?

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Sean Ge.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I'm in high school?

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Yeah, we go back.

Speaker 6 (01:03:27):
We went on a prom together. Well we we had
different dates, but we weren't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Prom's y'all was in the same lemoy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
That is great, that's great.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Jay Irving and Seawan Gee. It's a what a blessed existence.

Speaker 7 (01:03:44):
I tell you now, y'all, what I will say, And
I've said this to a lot of people, and y'all
may disagree because you're all from there. But in the business,
Philly stick together.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, for the most part, I would say, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Y'all got y'all know who everybody is?

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Yeah for sure, Yeah yeah, definitely all each other.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:04:00):
But I'm saying that it's a lot of you guys
and girls who do business together, you know what I mean.
Where it's just like, oh no, I'm gonna do that
deal with with Jay. I'm gonna do that deal with Sean.
Are you meet somebody from Philly and they're like, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Yeah, gave me.

Speaker 7 (01:04:19):
I was Actually the way I met Sean Stockman from
Voice to Men is I pulled up on dram Vidal
years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Uncle Mark, Uncle Mark.

Speaker 7 (01:04:29):
Uncle Mark told me come to the studio, off fly
to Philly, and I ended up meeting Sean Stocking. I'm like, girl,
loving you my whole like this is twenty plus years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Sean would not remember me.

Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
My girlfriend knew with somebody, and we ended up going
to Mike's house and Mike had a dog.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
I'm not supposed to say names. Mike had a.

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
Dog, and the dog I'm sorry, it was horrendous. Somebody
had mixed like a terrier and a hot like a bull.
No it was like a pit bull and a hot
dog together. So it was big up top and it
had these little tiny legs, and it scared me.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
You know, what is that?

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
What is that?

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
And Mike got so mad that he picked me up
and put me out his house nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Oh yeah, she gotta go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
About his dog, about his dog, and had to get
and put he put me out.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
My coat was inside everything. They were all there. They
wouldn't remember.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
That, but I do.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
That's such a great story.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Years later I bought Mike's house.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
From nobody kicking me out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Yeah, years later I bought the house. Well, I mean
he sold it the dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
You could have bought any house.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
No, I like that house.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I bet you did.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
I got some ship that I still got to go
back again, ye.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Coming back again.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
I don't think about it that way, but that's how
I go. Yeah, baby face bought the Solar building like
this is how. This is what music can do for you,
beside to you one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Day that I can buy the building. Get out, get out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
I wish your nigga would carry me out.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
I'm coming back and by its supposed to be like that,
but it just worked out like that. It just worked
out like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
You said acting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Yes, I I had no idea that you were that
kind of an actor.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Who kind of an actor is a.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
An actor, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
You know that nigga just came out brown Way, so.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
I know I saw him because I saw he is great.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Because because everybody gives, they give the singers, and then
the people who come from other spaces they give us.
You know, they doubt us, hm, you doubt our ability
to But I mean, but you started off. Your your
starting was different because you you started from that Broadway place,
so I'm sure you were. You may may have been

(01:07:14):
viewed differently, but you had had so much music success.
Do you feel like there was still some some the
joubt in terms of your ability.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
To to act.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
I had the audition for everything, primarily especially in the beginning.
I auditioned for Tyler Perry for Why Did I Get Married?
I had to auditioned for the Number one Ladies Detective
Agency six times something about that six.

Speaker 7 (01:07:41):
Somebody said a nigga in their head with the champagne
bottle during the audition.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
I wish that had to come later.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
No, I had to learn that on the spot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
I terrified feel. When I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
she will tell.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
That was fun.

Speaker 6 (01:07:59):
But I needed to make sure because, like, you don't know,
but Richard T. Jones is literally one of the sweetest, craziest,
fun people that I know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Like he's pure. It's pure. So I didn't want to
hurt him.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
I was like, you have to prove to me that
I'm not about to hurt him because I didn't want
to hold back either.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
I wanted to hit him hard. He deserved it. Yeah,
I want to get him hard.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
I'm usually rooting for the man in most movies. Yeah,
I wasn't root for him.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
That's how good he is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Yeah I was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
I wasn't roo that's how good. She probably should have
hit that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
Probably that's how good he is.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
That scene and then the bathroom scene.

Speaker 7 (01:08:42):
Yeah, when you told her, I thought, when I saw
you again, I might whoop your ass, but.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
I'd rather pray for you. I was like, Wow, this
is I was like, oh this is real.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
You know, but God bless everybody. I love y'all. I
really need you to understand it. I'm not Sheila. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
It got some sheloaded.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
Maybe I can relate to Sheila. I'm supposed to relate and.

Speaker 7 (01:09:14):
In a way I got some sheloaded like that. You
know you're not playing around.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
No Sheila. Sheila definitely let her man walk all over her.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Yes, yes, she did it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
For a long time. I don't do that. I do
believe in.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
It doesn't feel good, I gotta go. Yeah, it's just
it's simple for me. It's got to stay good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Work for it. I work for the good.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
But after I've after I've worked, and it's there's no
more than I can release it m because it can't
be my life.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
That can't be it.

Speaker 7 (01:09:48):
Nah. I gotta ask you about another not an antelope,
but the beginning of a song.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
When you say.

Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
That you went and got the cologne for the new
man that the old man used to wear.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
I didn't like that toxic.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
I didn't like it, but I like how you said
us everything for everybody because it's stunk on that new nigga.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
Yes, it's stunk.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
It did not smell right over here.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
It was a metaphor.

Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
No, it wasn't not for me because I was like,
you know what, I'm known for my smell, and this
is why I don't be telling them the colone I
wear right here because she's gonna try to put this
on this new nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Hey put my colone on the new nigga. It's gonna
stink it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:32):
I'm glad it worked. It was a metaphor. It literally
was a metaphor.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
What's the metaphor for that?

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
You can try to put the old thing on the
new thing.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
It's not gonna wear. It's gotta begin a new thing
with the new thing.

Speaker 7 (01:10:51):
I think that's why people love your music so much,
because it's so relatable. It's it's extremely relatable. I mean
even you go back to A Long Walk to me,
that is the greatest date song of ever all time.
To me, that because it simplifies so dope, it simplifies life.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
But then it's but then it's all.

Speaker 7 (01:11:15):
And it's something that that that I paid attention to
as I actually gotten older and I realized that the
verses that you were talking about are from the Bible
and from the Koran. And I think that went over
a lot of people's.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
Heads for many, many many years, you.

Speaker 7 (01:11:31):
Know, and I was just like, Oh, she really wants
to sit and learn with you, and that is something
different than can you take me to Ruth Chris or
flying to the Bahamas to be whatever I'm going to
be for this week.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Are nice, It's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
A days go on a long walk.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
We should be exchanging some real information.

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
Jesus spark of friendship.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Yeah, I feeled enough in love to know that you
really must get your friendship game strong.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
You have really got that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
You got the other stuff gets in a way when
your friendship is there.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
You don't want to hurt your friend. You would hate
to hurt your friend. This friend, my best friend. I
don't want to do that. It changes things. It's important.

Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
So a long walk really is a It's a how
to to have a date. And if someone doesn't appreciate
the things that you're doing, it's time to go on
another date with somebody else.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
Everything is not about money. Money is really great. I
enjoy it. I try to spend it wisely. I try
to use it rather than it use me. You know.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
But some things are just free, like putting your feet
in some grass. You know what, isn't it great?

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Good? Yeah? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Can I ask you, because you know I'm from I'm
from the d m V. I I was raised.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
When you went go go. I used to be in
a go go band. What Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
I used to play keys in the Go Go bed
and say cool when you went Go Go, I don't
think you understand. Like for me kids from the d
m V, I went from a fan to a stand

(01:13:40):
nice because because that right there, nobody had went there
and that was like, that was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
The real deal. I tried, Oh man.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
I tried.

Speaker 6 (01:13:56):
I didn't have any like Go Go percussionists, so I
found an African percussionists and it kind of it made sense.
It just made it worked, it felt, you know, so
it was an homage, not really like trying to grab it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
But DC loved it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:11):
The DMV was like, girl, we love you. When I
got over there, Finn that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Audience, I wish I could have seen it before.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
I didn't know what it was supposed to go on
for like ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
No no, no, no, you could do that for fifteen if
you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Yeah, yeah, that was great. A hot twenty that was great.

Speaker 6 (01:14:32):
It's love had been like four different things, and then
I was just I love the lyrics, love the lyrics,
I love how it felt, but it just didn't land
on anything yet.

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
And I was like, well, let's try go Go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
But had you had you been to go go once,
it's different. Here's whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
You come out with your hair sweated out, your clothes
stuck to you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
You you thought I was from out there. We went
out there for a big take a weekend. I'm like, no,
I ain't leaving, man, what.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
You want to go? That's some mumbo sauce.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
You look like a DCG.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
There you're cap hell Now, I ain't going to college.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Look like finished born in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
We don't enjoy gangs in college.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
The gang you're born in the game.

Speaker 7 (01:15:28):
My family is one yeah about to ship, So yeah,
we don't. We don't go to college to join gangs.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Look at me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
I've done well for myself.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Up, that's right. I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
I appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to live
my life like it's golden. I just want to be there.

Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
That's what it means. Just in case anybody's got questions.
Living your life like it's golden literally means following your path,
like you know, Dorothy the Whiz they followed the yellow
brick road. It's the same thing, Like your spirit will
tell you this is good, this is the way to go.

(01:16:09):
Go that way, even if it doesn't work out. The
way you thought it would. Even if follow the road,
follow the path, it'll take you somewhere else and somewhere else,
and then maybe a year, maybe nine years later, you'll
understand why you went that path. I didn't love working
sixteen hours or fourteen hours a day at that theater

(01:16:30):
company for two hundred and fifty dollars, living in my
mother's basement. I didn't love that. I wanted to move out.
I wanted to get a car. I wanted to buy clothes,
I wanted to do stuff. But in hindsight, I see
the value of why I was there and even why
I stayed.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
I learned so much.

Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
I can communicate with people in the theater environment and
on stage, you know, I can. I can say I
need you to change this light to this, this and
that and this and this, and you know, add pieces
and move all kinds of things around the stage because
it feels good and it looks good and it makes
my audience interested.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
And you added to your toolbox.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Yeah, and I'm wrong with a good toolbox.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
It's so much par for the course.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Like when you just look back on it and you
can extrapulate, you can actually pinpoint the things as you say,
tools that you grabbed from each of those moments that
at the time felt hard or or sometimes could have
felt counterproductive, or I felt like they were taking you somewhere,

(01:17:38):
felt like they were taking you somewhere you didn't want
to go when you wanted to go here, but you
needed everything that was on this street before you could
make that right. Then right, then another right and get
back to the street that you wanted to get on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Yep. And that's everything I'm hearing in your journey.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Not skipping any steps.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
I don't think I did. I mean, I don't know.
There's so much more to learn you. There's so much codd.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Would with poly You're a thing. Yeah, at the at
the studio, you know, to to be.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
There, just to be.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Like when it comes to music, I'll do.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
Anything, not anything.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
I'll sing this, I mean just within reason. I'll sing backgrounds.
I'll play the keyboard. If you need me to learn instrument,
I can play trumpet, food, I'll play the drums as
I am right now, they say, are you I'm not
too big to stand behind somebody's microphone.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
M h.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
I don't have to sing lead, but for this, I
don't it's a it's a prideless venture for me. I'm
willing to cote. I'm willing to get some poly your
thane and stay in the studios if that means I
get to be here every other day and learn this
thing and be part of this thing. And that's that's

(01:19:15):
that's really selling out to the gift. That's what you
You gotta be there. I'm still surprised that you didn't
know you could sing like that. I'm still shocked that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
That is very shock.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
That is shocking.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
I don't want to talk about that anymore, you know,
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:19:32):
I really don't feel like people understand where I'm coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I get where you're coming from.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Okay, you do, one hundred percent get it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
Thank you, sa. I just say thank you because.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
When you say when you say it's mine, I understand
what you mean by that, and so you know, it's
it's like, this thing is so precious to you, and
when you start exposing this thing to the world, lending
it to people who aren't going to be careful, who

(01:20:07):
aren't going to respect, who aren't going to love your
thing the way you love it and need it to
be loved.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
I understand exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
What you're terrifying every time, every time, absolutely so I
read there's this thing, it still feels so good.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
You gotta, you know, just get it and gotta get
it out.

Speaker 6 (01:20:29):
Gotta go, Gotta get on the road, Gotta be amongst
my bandmates, Gotta you know, hang out with my drivers,
Gotta kick it with the caterers. Gotta because that's another thing.
Oh my god, guys, every single person is important.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
Important.

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
If lighting doesn't show up, your show's in the dark,
talk about it. If the background want one of your
background vocalists doesn't show up, You've got to make room
for that note and understand how how things change, wants
that notice missing. We all got to work together differently
because we're covering spaces. If your drummer doesn't show up

(01:21:08):
for the show, what you're doing, what we're gonna clap
clap all night stop.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Everybody has a part to playing it, and it's very important.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
It's funny them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 7 (01:21:19):
I was randomly on live the other day and one
of our drivers from tour or just our drivers period
that always ros with us, Corey, he jumped in a
live and just he just said something and it just.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
I lit up.

Speaker 7 (01:21:34):
I lit up because I'm like, I love Corey and
I literally put my life in his hands.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
When we're on the road.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
This man is getting us from point A to point B,
and I I never want.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
People to overlook that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:48):
Just like you said, like everybody is important, the caterers, security, security, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Man, big shots, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:21:57):
I mean, like, so for us, you know that that
is I'm glad you said that. I am really glad
that you said that.

Speaker 6 (01:22:02):
God I realized where I am, you know, with the
R and B you know, kings of the world over here.
And I just want to make sure that we talk
about this business and what it takes. Yes, it takes
a lot of diligence and not giving up on yourself
and rehearsal, rehearsal, rehearsal, rehearsal, rehearsal so you can forget, rehearsal,

(01:22:26):
so you can forget. You learn everything, and then you
forget it and you live it every night, live in.

Speaker 4 (01:22:31):
Different it's different city, different energy, live it different every night.

Speaker 6 (01:22:35):
That's what it takes. I just wanted you, you know,
to know that. And then of course living within your means.
It matters that you don't get you know, a deal
of some sort or some kind of contract, and then
you just go spend all your money.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
This is entertainment. It's feast or famine.

Speaker 6 (01:22:57):
And when it's famine, Jesus Christ, little embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
You know what you want to talk about that you
want to talk about that?

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Oh boyd Jesus, she didn't watch your episodes, and you
have to get up out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
I've been in some famines and look at you, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Look at me now, hey, I remember being in a
stolen rental car us the money from Nash Trade to
put in the gas tank coins real living in Rancho.

Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
With Dirty Dre well, we'll call them Dirty Dray and
Philly Andre Harris. We went to all of us went
to Great Adventures, and we stopped in McDonald's and we
got small fries because in the back of each bag
we each one had to have a bag. I'll take
seven small fries with seven bags please. There was a

(01:23:54):
coupon on the back of each bag for Great Adventures.
So that's how we ended up going in the Greater Vendess.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
Yeah, yeah, Dre had in his car. It was a
hole and I had to sit in the front. It
was a hole, so I had to keep my feet
on both sides of the hole.

Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
But I could see them, bro, I could see the
road the whole time, so I could never fall asleep.
Yeah right, because if you know what I'm saying, what
more than a toe?

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
More than?

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Did you ever? Okay? When you did get your deal? Yeah?
I got you a little bit extra coin.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
I got a little bit of money.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Did you buy anything? Though?

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
I paid off my student loan?

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
Look at you being responsible?

Speaker 7 (01:24:54):
I did because I know people that's like eighty that
still ain't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
I hated how they kept calling my grandma.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Where is Jill chill alone?

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Yeah, yeah, you're better than me?

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Yeah I did?

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
You still got no, No, I ain't had no loans,
but yeah I had some stuff that was outstanding, but
they wasn't getting that money. I had to get to
the strip club. They needed to see me, and I
needed some rims at it. You understand what I'm saying. Hmm, responsible.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
With you? Listen, do you do you see a couple
of things. You see Jill. You see how she's smiling.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
You see that that that's that's that's a responsible elegance.
You see me, it's not it's not responsible elegance. No,
I'm all trawling there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
That's light.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I'm a bunch of fucking it up a follow thing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Let me see what's going on, Sister Jill Scott. I
used the sister because you're from Philly. You know how
I got sister Jill. We come to a very special

(01:26:35):
part of the show where people want to.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Know what they want to know Jim.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
They want to know some of the people and music
that has inspired you to be who you are.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
How'd you get a stamp with your with your face
on it? They want to know from feeling abroad way.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
I don't forget Canada, in Canada, the people that didn't.

Speaker 10 (01:27:08):
You Top five, your top five, Top five, your.

Speaker 9 (01:27:26):
Top five R and B singers, what you are and
the songs. We've got to know me by you girl.
We're on this shobe before we do the load her.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Top five, Yes, top f o you five?

Speaker 11 (01:28:10):
Oh, sister Jills Scot is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
Man, your choices are crazy. That's only one wonderful.

Speaker 6 (01:28:27):
They talked about you all over the internet. They talking,
they say, they say you know that, damn that matters, saying,
boy that damn dang he could sing a song and
that is no lie, no, lie, my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
I received this your top five R and B singers.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Well, I thought about this a lot, a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
You wrote like this.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Okay, it's different, Okay, no order, right, nope, Frankie Beverly,
I don't know, man, I was supposed to have his baby.
He didn't know that, but that was in my mind
as a young person. We are one, we should have
been one. D Angelo. Yes, yep. Absolutely, that voice, those choices,

(01:29:22):
that sincerity, that soul.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
It's just a question.

Speaker 5 (01:29:27):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
As we say neo, so as it becomes at is
he the king of Neo?

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
So I don't think there's a kay is there?

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
I don't I don't you know. They all kings to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Me when I heard D'Angelo.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Life changing, absolutely life changing yep, Okay, I just you
know you, you know you you you move worlds. So
you want to know how you felt about that?

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
Kings? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:30:04):
I don't even know if he would want to be that.
Like I think I've seen interviews when he talked about
neo soul and was like that's not really where he
wanted to necessarily be, you know, so, I mean maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
To the world, yeah maybe, Yeah, it makes sense. He's
changed things.

Speaker 6 (01:30:23):
He changed things and opened a door for another kind
of music that had been shut.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
For a long time. It wasn't nobody was doing soul
for music like that, Like it stopped.

Speaker 6 (01:30:36):
It got real hip hoppy if that's a phrase. Yeah,
hip poppy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
I didn't say hops. Yeah, so yeah, I guess so,
I guess he would be the king he ushered. He
opened the door and ushered so many through like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
It was like as a church kid and musician and
singer and song right it was like, that's that's what
I want to be, right there, that's I want to be.
We want to be free and musical and creative and
and grounded like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
Life changing. Still nothing like it to this day. Nothing Nope.

Speaker 6 (01:31:22):
Even from the beginning when you listen to his first album,
like nobody's done anything like it's not close.

Speaker 5 (01:31:31):
Nope.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
He had a good time.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
Huh, yes, man, Prince, hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
Nobody sings like that to me, Like.

Speaker 6 (01:31:47):
The list as far as R and B, Like he
could do so many kinds of music obviously, and he
could play so many instruments, but you know, nothing compares
to you that level of guts put into it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
International lover, what is that?

Speaker 6 (01:32:07):
He was like, I'm going to pour sex into a
song and I'm gonna stir it gently, and he did.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
There you go a.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
Wonderful. I listened to Under the Cherry Moon for four
years straight.

Speaker 6 (01:32:22):
I don't know, it's the only time I listened to
one thing for that long four years straight. I love, love, love,
love love that album. I know every nuance of it.
I think it's a perfect work. Love that album Al Green,
which I listened to all morning.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
You're a list I know what you're Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
You gotta say a thing for me.

Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
I love a good singer, I really do, and so
many different kinds of great vocalists.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
But I need you. You gotta say something to me.
Please say something soul and how you put a phrase,
how you oh, please, please please. It's the writer and me.
The writer requires to be titillated. And the last one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
As w v mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:33:26):
Yep, they're on my wall. They're on my wall. That
cassette cassette, Yeah, that cassette.

Speaker 6 (01:33:36):
I listened to it faithfully and and every day for
I don't know, a couple of years at least, and
even now when I listen to it now, I'm like, damn,
that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
So that's my favorite.

Speaker 6 (01:33:50):
They're so good and they're still what working, Still they're
still working.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
That counts.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
Yeah, that's that's my five R and.

Speaker 6 (01:34:05):
B artists today. Give me somebody else tomorrow because it's
so much good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:34:10):
Very grateful for that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
R and B Top five R and B songs.

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
Fire and Desire Tina Marie Rick.

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
James Rick one of the coldest, very good, very very good.

Speaker 6 (01:34:32):
He knows how to tap into something that's both pastor
and pimp at the same time.

Speaker 7 (01:34:38):
It's dangerous, lovelyous, heavy, heavy as both of those two things.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Are come on, very danous.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
Use your powers for good Tina Marie. Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:34:56):
One of the best moments of like five moments of
my life. I was rolling around in a cabriolet in
Paris and it was midnight. Fire and Desire came on,
and when Tina Marie did her first big note that
first thing she said, the Eiffel Tower lit up, and

(01:35:19):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Like, does this love?

Speaker 8 (01:35:22):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Saying that I see it?

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
It was wonderful and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
I need that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
Rain WV.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Why not.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
So well written, so well executed.

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
All of it as well, perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
All its well a doore ye listen Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
It's just incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
Yeah, I'm about to listen to a letter that's a
whole revolution.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
Love me in a special way. This list is great,
sin can you be right?

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
What more can I say? What more can I say?

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Love me now, love me now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
That's how you do a damn thing? Is it the way?

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Yeah, you're damn right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:49):
I think it's very well executed. I appreciate how how
the the words worked.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
You did good.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
I think so you did.

Speaker 7 (01:37:00):
I think so that song you can't like, you cannot
you know that the double negatives, but you can'tnot smile.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
You have to smile.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
I think it's because it's the woke. I think the
woe has something to do with it. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Breakfasting all the time, that's what she did. She got
up the breakfast yeah, simple man. What and grits and
the way you sang grits that's why you said that.
Though you said it was.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Made it that song felt like a live recording.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Hm hmmm, Drane b dal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
It felt like you were.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
At one of your poetry houses and you were saying me,
I got I got something special.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
I want to y'all and you sing that that's what
it feels like.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
That's nice and that's missing who ooh.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
It is. I think you should write for other artists too.
I would love to.

Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
I think you should absolutely, because they some more Jill
Scots songs on more artists.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Too, because it wouldn't just come with the song. It
would come with It would come with a healing, it
would come with teaching, it would come with information, and
it would come with oh my gosh, it would come
with this level of you know what I mean, like
they would you would learn so like yeah, just if
you well, I would.

Speaker 6 (01:38:41):
Want to know what was going on in their lives.
I would want to know what they wanted to talk about.
I would want to know what affected them deeply. I
would I would probably want to have meals and you know,
I want to know so that I could write something
because whatever I write, you're gonna be singing this for
the rest.

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
Of your life.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
By far yep.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
Forrad like is.

Speaker 6 (01:39:05):
It's the way it's like, you know, twenty six years later, Oh,
my God, and people are still.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
Karaoke in that level. You better have a song, yeah,
they better sing it and doing it so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
I got a couple behind it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Go yeah, yeah, I know that's a girl.

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
It's all right. Yes, I love I love hearing what
people are doing with it. It's good. I just recently
like added or took.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
M M.

Speaker 6 (01:39:36):
I don't know which one it is, but I changed
it a little. I think that when the words are good,
it doesn't matter what you do with the music. That
you can change the music because the words are solid
and you create another feeling out of some a feeling
which is fun.

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
I think it's a lot of fun. Some people that
irks their soul, you know, like singing the way out.
But I am, but I am.

Speaker 6 (01:40:03):
You know, I might not, I might not be for everybody,
but who I'm for, I'm really, really really for yees good,
it's good life.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
All right, Let's make a vol tron. Let's make your
super R and B artists. Okay, but I love that
you wrote like this is writing is great. So who
you get the the vocal from performance style, styling, the
passion of the artists, and who's going to write for
this artist.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Yea, I mention didn't see that one coming. All right,
here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
I didn't get that. I don't think that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Made that up for you.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
I wrote the vocal no, no, let's start. I'm gonna
lead you. So the vocal where you're going to get
the one vocal from for this artist?

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
This is this is not what I said. I said,
feel like Aretha Okay, Holla like Shaka.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
Okay, what else you want care huh huh, scary.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Like breathing hollow like Shaka.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
Okay, So so float like Sarah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
Oh she's not done.

Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
You said, vult go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
So you're making a voltron within the vocal.

Speaker 6 (01:41:19):
Yeah, everything right, So feel like a wreatha hollow like Shaka,
float like Sarah, run like Jasmine Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
You said a vultul Jesus Christ. It's not the this,
This is not the way vultroan goes. You are doing
something new and unique like you always do.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
Keep going okay right like Smoky.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
They gotta be a hip threst of eighty five like
him too, though I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Don't think he can. I don't think he with his hip.
I think he was just stuck in his back no, no,
he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
I just went to go see. He was like, I
will not let you do this. He've been doing yoga
for fifty years.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
It wasn't his hip. He did get blue eyes. I'm
upset about that. It was his back.

Speaker 4 (01:42:19):
Go ahead, he's still here, he's still doing it right,
like he's still right, like smoky, physical fluidity like Chris
Brown mmmmmm, musicianship of Stevie Wonder and presence like James Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
That's what they say. Let her cook, Let her cook.

Speaker 6 (01:42:47):
And then as far as the aesthetic, I don't know.
I don't know what all that means. I don't know
what all that means. Was that what was that supposed
to look like? I didn't know Biggie was gonna look
like Biggie. I did know Craig Mac was gonna look
like Craig Mac. I didn't know that Prince was gonna
look like Prince. You know, it's just you got to

(01:43:09):
mix all that stuff together and whatever that makes. I
would just want it to be authentic to all of
those things.

Speaker 4 (01:43:15):
That's it. Just sincere.

Speaker 6 (01:43:18):
Whatever that looks like, Sincere, that's what it looks like. Yeah,
with all of those skills and abilities, vult We got.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
A new way to do a vultront.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
I'm not sure if you can Tampa with her styleis voltron.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Don't try to come here trying to vot. You're not
like Jail.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
You're not like Jill.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
Because you got I ain't saying no name, ain't saying.

Speaker 4 (01:43:53):
What you did.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
Don't say she.

Speaker 4 (01:44:00):
Say no name.

Speaker 7 (01:44:07):
So we're here, we've we've gotten here. Were to a
very very important part of the show. Well, you tell
us a story, funny or fucked up? Funny and fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
The only rule to the game. You can't say no name.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Any right? Any right? One?

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
WHOA I didn't write it. I didn't write it. I
didn't write it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Yep that one, Yep, you can do it. You can
do it.

Speaker 7 (01:44:41):
Is that one.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
I don't want to say that one. I can't say
that one. I don't know if I should say that one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
I like, I like that whatever that one is.

Speaker 6 (01:44:52):
Ooh, it's a lot of them. Yeah, nervous any names.
Don't say a name. Don't say a name.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Okay, it's not funny if I don't say the name. Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Maybe characteristics.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
That's too much.

Speaker 6 (01:45:12):
It's too It's like obvious, who these people are don't
say names. I am literally stuck on a on a
story to tell. What story should I tell?

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
You?

Speaker 7 (01:45:24):
Gotta tell that story. That's the one that's in your
mind right now. That's the one I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:45:30):
So I'm on a at award show. This is the
one that pops up. I'm at an award show. I'm
on the red carpet and I see one of my
heroes and I run over to her. Oh shit, this
is a moment. And I say, too fast, Oh my god,

(01:45:51):
I love you so much. I listen to you all
the time. You you you inspire me so much.

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
You are based and and and she kind of just
looked at me, and I was like, oh, okay, I
might have I might have did too much, you know, Okay,
all right, stop personally walk away, Jill. You know, because
there's the one that talks to me. Listen, it works
for me.

Speaker 6 (01:46:15):
Walk away, Jill, I said, Okay, I walked away, but
I said what I want to say, and I feel
good about saying what I said. So I'm further along
and the person, the younger person, I guess this is
maybe her assistant, runs over to me with her face off,
scornched up.

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
I said, what's wrong with Jie? She said, you really
offended her? I said I did. She was like, yes,
you did. I can't believe you would do something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
And I was like, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:46:46):
I'm so sorry. What did I do? She said, you
need to go talk to her right now. So with
all of this, so I go and I'm like, you know,
waiting because people are surrounding this wonderful, wonderful artist, and
I say, hey, what did I say? She said you

(01:47:08):
called me obest?

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Oh? Oh h?

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
What the hell? I look like calling somebody your beast?

Speaker 6 (01:47:24):
Mad human eyes burning, wanting to fight me, Like, who
do you think you are to call me out of
my name?

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
Who are you to tell me I'm a beast? And
I'm like, I didn't, I said a beast?

Speaker 7 (01:47:39):
A you had a y M moment because she didn't
understand the Wayian language you was kicking taking somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
You don't even fit with the context of everything you
were saying at all, because you.

Speaker 6 (01:47:57):
Want to hear that's where you heard what you wanted. H.
But I promise, I really I don't have something necessary
ain't gonna say ship.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
I'mna keep my mouth closed.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
So did y'all did y'all make up?

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
Can I tell you the name? I can't tell your name?
Damn it? I hate this work. Did we make up?

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Yeah? I mean ish ish ish She's still head all that.
I tried to hide it when she came back anything,
because who calls anybody a beast? That's probably worse O best.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
I would never Does that sound like me? No, No
at all at all. I'm gonna go out of my way. Yeah,
but well that's the business sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
Chiley from Philly. You are You are magnificent, You are awesome,
you are you are beautiful. You are a superstar. You
are multi faceted, multi talented, multi cool, and we are
better because you are here and we can't wait to

(01:49:10):
experience more of you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
There are more things to come.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
We can't give titles and dates, but things are happening
in the works more acting, yes, and the works and
not given titles and dates. What you need to do
is stay up and stay close to the woman, follow
her so you'll know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
We have been honored.

Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
This was great.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
Honored you.

Speaker 6 (01:49:38):
Thank you so much for having me, Thank you for listening,
and thank you for supporting R and B music, because
you know what I did. I played more R and
B since I realized, you know, I was coming here,
and I went down this long rabbit hole of why
you begin to sing in the first place, For what

(01:49:59):
was the purpose?

Speaker 4 (01:50:00):
All that good writing, all that quality sincere. I know
I use that word a lot, but it matters. It maritives,
the depth of those vocals, the love that was just
poured all over in the musicianship. Thank you for keeping
R and B alive.

Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
So we got something for you too, because we heard,
you know, listen the streets told us you like, so
we're just.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
I'm gonna keep it in the bank.

Speaker 4 (01:50:28):
That's how I like it. Yeah, yeah, you know, nice.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Little taste, little taste for ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Money is tag and this is the r Andy Money Podcast,
the authority on all things r Rent.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Big Jelly from Philip Ladies.

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
And James Scup. Thank you, Thank you so much,