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Speaker 1 (00:01):
R and B Money. We are take volatility.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
We are the authority on R and B ladies and
gentlemen money, Miss Tank and this is the R and
B Money Podcast, the authority on all things R and B.
The number one R and B podcast in the world.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Prayer. Some people don't like to hear that top flight
R and B ship in the world. I don't know,
it's not like we you know, what are they gonna
set us? We're inclusive, but we reason they you know,
they like to be like, I don't know nigga, you
know what? Don't they know who? I know who? Who
part is?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
It?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Don't nobody won't this R and B smoke. We are
the smokest niggas in R and B. Having this conversation
with the likes of the list is long. Today's a
special day, mister Valentine. This is this is our close
out of our third season.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
It's a lot of episodes, it's a lot of this
is one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Like like when I came to you at the studio
in Burbank, me and Ruben were like we should do
a pod and you were like, man, I'm not sitting
there talking to you for no motherfucker. You know, I'm
not talking to you for no hour, just sitting on

(01:40):
no couching you nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I think because we had to also, we had to
figure out how to make it all makes sense, how
to make it all makes sense, and you know what
we wanted to talk about. And I think a big
part of that is people understanding from my standpoint of
it is and I think, I think for yours as well,

(02:05):
that it's more of a show about the journey all
things and entertainment all things and being successful, you know
what I mean. And I think at times, I you know,
I think I just didn't want to be pigeonholed. I
didn't want us. I didn't want us to be pigeonholed
as far as the only thing they thought of is that, oh,

(02:26):
if they're not having such and such R and B
singer on the show, you know, And to me, you know,
I thought that was I thought that was putting us
in a bit of a box because we've done so
much in entertainment period, and we have so many friends

(02:48):
in it, and I think that the world's all mesh
and they had to understand, and I hope they did
during this time is that it's always gonna be R
and because you want I R bly you know what
I mean, more more than anything. And yes, we're going
to stand on the fact that we want R and

(03:08):
B music mixed into all of these things, other than
it just being like Okay, well yeah, y'all should be
on here talking about drum patterns. And well, first, I'm
not a music nerd. You are. I'm not a music nerd.
I love music, but I don't really care what machine
a nigga used to make what it.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Shit.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Don't mean because it sound good, I don't care. Listen
if you big table and made it, I'm rolling if
it sounds good to my ears. So that that was
the That was I think my my biggest hesitation in
the beginning when we were talking about doing it, I'm like,

(03:51):
and the way you explained it to me was, Jay,
our company is called R and B money. We need
we got to call it R and B money. And
I was like, absolutely right, you know what I mean,
You're absolutely right, because you know, and I feel like
it gave us our niche amongst all the other things.
And we bring R and B with, you know, and

(04:12):
we insert it into the conversation absolutely, no matter who's
on our show. And I think that's that's been a
really cool and important part that everywhere we go it's
R and B money and it's R and B.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
But that was the balance of it between you and I.
You know what I'm saying, Just that that alone, like
you don't care what machine or nigga using, right? You
know what I'm saying, I am questioning him down about
his doll and you know what I'm saying. And what
you stack that with? Do you want to layer that
with a you know what I'm saying, I'm going all
the way. So it's it was the balance because you're

(04:44):
very much You're very much into the the the the
the aesthetic, the final product and how it like, what
is what is it going to end up being?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Hear all that.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I still look at myself as a consumer. I've just
been a consumer who's been able to make a living
making music. But you're still a consumer.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
But you're you're not.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
I am absolutely I pay for my Spotify, for my
Apple Music, I got all of them, I got Amazon.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
You're not consumer?

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Why not if I buy it? I am consuming too
talented to be a consumer. It's like a nigga that
that made the league, that now buys tickets. You go
to the games because.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
He's not in No more Jay, whether you like it
or not, you're behind the veil. You have too much
information to be a true consumer. You have too much
ability to be a true consumer. You analyze the game
completely differently. Now you know the metrics, you know the numbers,
you know how to read all of these things, right,

(05:50):
but you still come from a different place. Unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Okay, no, no, not unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
I'm appreciative of it, but I just feel like, if
I buy it, I got an opinion.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Listen, you know what's cracking. I mean, that's what you.
We give you, We give you credit for that. You
know what's cracking, and I know it's not.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's not always like that. I will say if something's
not cracking. I don't mind saying something's not cracking. And
I don't mind the conversation that comes from me speaking
my opinion because you can articulate. Because I can articulate
my opinion. Man, I believe that in this many years

(06:34):
of consuming there you go, ah consuming these things, my
opinion is an expert. At this point, I feel like
I have an expert opinion, you know what I mean.
So it's really funny when I see people, because you
know me, I see the people who say shit, and

(06:55):
then I go on the page and I'm like, oh,
you do music.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
I've never heard any of.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
It though, And you're arguing with me about being successful
in music, or you're arguing with whoever our guests are
arguing about whoever our guest is, and the advice that
they're giving these very successful people that are on these
show against talking against, like talking about insight first, super

(07:23):
legends fuck me, yeah, yeah, the super legend that's on
the show that gave his or her time to tell
you what they see in the game, what they feel
about the game, how they were able to win in
the game. And niggas that are still trying to figure

(07:43):
out how to get their first placement are having arguments
with people in the comments section and are actually even
combating you and I And I'm like, this is crazy
because the other part about us doing this is that
it's really cultural for us. This is not to change

(08:04):
our lives to become uber millionaires doing a show or podcast.
This is really a cultural play. That's why we have
who we have on the show. We are not looking at,
as you said, metrics, We're not looking at, Oh, this
person is going to do so much. Numbers are so many,
you know, so many views. We could care less, Like

(08:24):
we really are doing this so that the young kid
are the the older person who loves and does music
can see these interviews and maybe alter some of their
views or some of the ways that they're going about
about it, so that they can reach some levels of success.
Of the people that we're bringing on here, even if

(08:46):
they've never heard of these people. These people are tenured
in this business, like we don't just bring just anybody,
are tenured in this business and in other business, other businesses.
Making the NBA it it's only five it's five less
than our somewhere around five thousand people who've ever played

(09:07):
it ever ever, it's five thousand new songs that come
out every day. It's only five thousand. So someone coming
on here and telling their story, you got to be
respectful of that. If we got a movie star or
a TV star, our comedian that makes a living, like
most comedians don't make a living, you know what we
should do? What should we do?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
We gotta figure out coming next season. We got to
figure out what the number is on how many people
have had a hit record?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, what that you know, that's a relative. That's a
relative question too.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
No, no, no, I'm.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Talking about a chart topping, universally recognized hit record. Not no,
he got hits on his album. No no, not that,
not no oh this song introduced him or this song
got him in or no no, no, no, no life
changing chart topping record.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I think we should we should find that. I mean,
I'm sure the Googles.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Because as we say five thousand people, only around five
made the NBA. I want to know the number of
people who have actually written, perform, produced, sang a hit
song and what that number looks like and people and
then make people understand what kind of club they're trying

(10:28):
to get into.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Now.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I think I was I was reading somewhere or I
was listening to something, and someone was giving a breakdown
of the people who actually make a living doing music.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's different too.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
It's they were saying, it's less than five percent of
people who actually do music make living like a living
wage to just do music to just a music. Less
than five percent of the world like that actually make
enough money to to only do music kids. It's really tough.

(11:06):
And that's the part that I feel like we've tried
to help in being you know, niggas don't read as
much no more. We know that, so we've we're trying
to give them some form of a playbook to listen
to and watch. So I mean, I think that that'd

(11:28):
be my biggest thing. Man. You know, I'm not bothered
by the comments, but it just it just makes me
think to myself, like them, some people don't want to learn,
some people just want to talk ship and these are
these are actual because I'll be going, I listen, I'll
click on the page and then I'll listen to the
music and I'll see what's going on, and I'm like,

(11:50):
it ain't no way that you believe.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Because inventory is a motherfucker right, just listening as a motherfucker. Yeah,
just listening, like just like, okay, let me let me
hear it, and by me hearing it and listening to it,
let me let me actually see where I fall within

(12:15):
what I'm listening to, like from from from a work standpoint,
from the amount of work you're putting in, to a
sonic standpoint, to a release standpoint, to a marketing except
to whatever it is. Where do I fall within what

(12:37):
I'm listening to and how it's performed for them? Where
do I fall within it? And that's the honest conversation
that I don't know. I don't I don't know if
people don't want to have it or if they can't
have it, because what I also know is that all
levels aren't meant for everybody. Right, everybody can't understand stand

(13:01):
what we do. Yeah, and they can't understand always the intent.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
They can't, no matter, no matter like we can say,
we can have a help convention. Right, this is for help.
If you need to help anything you need help with,
that is why we're here to help you. Right, what
do you need? There's gonna be somebody at that convention.
It's gonna be like this, man, this goddamn help. Damn Nigga,

(13:32):
Why nigga, Why nigg got to help so much? Like Okay,
I got everybody in here helping. God, God, damn you
see all this shit. I ain't coming tomorrow. It's too
much motherfucker helping here.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's just niggas just helping, helping and helping. Nigga.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
God, it's it's always that group of whatever the I
don't know what that is. Yeah, it's the yang. Light
cannot exist without darkness and vice versa. Yeah, you know,

(14:04):
and so we try, but we still try. No, absolutely,
we still try to try it.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean, and for me, I love I love doing it.
I think it's it's it's actually a labor of love.
Like I love doing it. I love having the conversations because,
as they say, it's if you can help one, I
feel like we happen way more than one. Yep, you
know what I mean. I would like personally for the artists,

(14:33):
the musicians, the executives, I would like for people to
do more self auditing. When I first came to La Bro,
I had these ten songs and I said it before.
Once I sat in the studio and I saw what
was really going on, I was like, oh, I suck.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I suck. I'm weak.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I'm weak and I know I'm weak, And no, I'm
not going to take that meeting at you I'm publishing
that I was supposed to take with Michael mccorn And
I was like, I'm not gonna take that meeting because
I don't want him to think I'm weak. Because I
think I'm weak right now because I am. I am
comparing it to what I believe will be on the

(15:16):
radio tomorrow, and I just didn't feel like I was
at that level. And I think that the Internet has
made it where everybody just takes shots, and it's cool
to take these shots, but it's a really tough space
to put yourself in where if you're presenting yourself to

(15:37):
whatever artist it is or whatever executive it is, and
you're just you're you're spamming them with foolishness because you
haven't truly audited.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Okay, let me give you perspective. Okay, okay, please give
your perspective there. Let's let's talk auditors. Right.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
You can get like maybe one of your friends went
to like an auditing school, you know what I'm saying,
a local auditing school to learn how to audit things right,
and he graduated in six months with whatever paper that

(16:18):
comes with that local auditing thing, and he's Nigga, you
need an audit I got you, baby. And then there's
the master auditor, who you know, went to Harvard and
if this is even a thing, I'm really just making
this up to have to get his auditing degree. Because

(16:43):
he didn't just need something to do. He genuinely had
an affinity for auditing, for problem solving, for digging, and
he had a gift for it, and he wanted to
see it all the way through. Okay, now I'm a
Now I'm a frame it and bring it all together.

(17:03):
Where someone has got the ox and played a track
that completely destroyed the room, and then somebody said can
I play something? And they grabbed the OX and play
something that is absolutely not on that level and you
can't tell them it.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Is not.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Their auditing system. Is that that local auditing school that
they went to. They just needed something to do, so
they don't have the gift of auditing. They're just they're
just trying to audit because they need a job. The
master auditor has a gift, and the gift that the

(17:48):
master uditor have, that regular auditor would never have. That
guy who played that track after that guy who just
smashed the room, he'll never have the master auditor gift, so.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
He can't hear it. I don't believe that, Jay, I
don't believe that. I think some people are just crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
No, there's that too.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I think some people are crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
There's that too. But you have to. You have to
leave room for they can't hear it. They can't hear it,
they can't do it. They can't see it, they can't
smell it. They can't. It's not that they don't want to.
They think they are, which is why there are levels

(18:32):
to everything, like there's existence, like without the without the
people who have to sit out there, there's no way
we would be able.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
To perform up here.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Agreed.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
And a lot of those people are those same people.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
That's the same thing that a nigga watching the NBA
that he goes in and cooks at the park. He
think he gonna run up on Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Thinking you thinking about the about the work.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I've been shooting the same thousand shots Steph Curry's been shooting.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
I'm about to cook him same thousand shots. Don't had
a gift?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
He allright, all.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Right, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's it's the grace that.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
That we have to extend.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Because when I did my first solo, my first lead
in church, I thought I was killing You couldn't have
told me you can hear it. No, I could not
hear it. All I heard was me, that's crazy. I
couldn't hear it, and it took Auntie Betty got rest

(19:53):
her soul to say you was off baby, real off.
She ain't just stop it off s real off rap.
And I said, okay, I gotta figure out. I gotta
find it. Thank God for the gift, because then I
had to tap into Okay, so what is she hearing?
Then I'm not hearing anything? What Then I go? Then

(20:16):
I become a master auditor. Yeah, no, no, I gotta
I gotta clean this up. So you're saying that.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
The bad rappers their girlfriends should stop lying to them.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Their girlfriends might not be lying to him. Listen, a
woman in love you, it's gonna buy all the way in.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I got my boyfriend's mixtape. You should check this out.
This should jumping nigga. He way better than Drake pick I.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Also also, yeah, that's crazy. I also feel like rap
is different than R and B. Then rapping is different
than singing. I just feel like, you know, if you
can't sing, you don't Okay, I've seen we've seen them,

(21:11):
just I know.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
But like.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Even the niggas that have had hit records that can't sing,
they still like, yeah, you know, hold on right, they
still keep it a bus.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I know we have this thing idemized right as to
go in certain order, but the way you're talking, we
have to go here, right, Jay, just look at the challenges.
Just just look at let's just start. This is really fun.
I'm glad you're doing them. Let's just let's just narrow
down to the recision. I just don't like that people
tag me.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Just leave me.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
You're the authority.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Why would they tag you authority? I Am not going
to judge your challenges unless you keep bothering, which they've
been bothering me.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Jas must not have ears on your head to put
some of this shit out. Jay, A nigga hit me
and said, nigga, I sound dead on Chris Brown.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Check mine out. He didn't, he told me.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
And if he was as good as the source as
mind you, we're not fucking with Chris Brown on this song.
I'm a singer's singer. Chris Brown did something so fucking
special to that song, unattainable. No one can catch him
on that, nobody. It's a rap. But for you to

(22:45):
say I'm on his ass.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
And not not even gloves.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Not not even being the same universe, just because you
have the autotune in the right key, Lord, Lord Lord,
if that autotune would have been off, Lord Jesus. But

(23:16):
he believed that when he sent that to he actually
asked me to be a collaborator on it, not reposting
that Ruber understand this.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
But they can't. They cannot hear that.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
And I'm wise enough to know I have the master
auditing to know that I can do my part and
not sound crazy and at least give my thing to
what that challenge is. But I'm in no way gonna
ever step out there and say, Nigga, I'm dead on
Brown's ass with this, when you niggas better, I'm not,

(23:58):
I know no.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
But here's the flip to that, right, if he doesn't
say that, maybe he don't even stick out amongst the
thousands that have sent that are sent in because that
type of statement makes you at least pay attention to it.
But here is the here is what happens with that
for me, And I think going back to why I

(24:23):
didn't take that meeting a long time ago when I
first had my little ten Songs and I was trying
to get a publishing deal, it's because I believed, in
first impression, I will see your name again and I'm
not ever clicking on again. A nigga only got one
time to really send me a bad batch of records.

(24:45):
I see you as a bad batch of records, and
this is niggas that I know. Personally, I'm like, you're
a bad batch of records. Do you.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
When their name come up?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I can't, I can't confirm or deny that. But for me,
I am a person that believes in first impressions and
you should always put your best foot forward. And I
think the reason I even you know I had made
that that one post about the challenges was I just

(25:27):
looked at it as if people are giving you an opportunity,
because this is the challenge is on the opportunity, people
get noticed. People. Yeah, people get a real real chance,
you know, from from what you've what you've been doing,
and especially you also go above and beyond with reposting
and putting on your story, sometimes even putting on your

(25:49):
page and introducing artists that people may know, people may
may not know, may see somebody in a different light
because you put it on your page and you have
a really big platform. My thing is that if I
was in that position personally, I would not send it
until I felt like, this is the greatest thing that

(26:09):
I could possibly do, because when people see this, I
could really get an opportunity from this and this, this
could possibly change my life by somebody who not even
just send it you seeing it, somebody that's connected to you,
somebody that just happens to go on your page and
sees this person that could help them.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I've gotten many a calls about some of those posts
like this. You see that one where they.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Are somebody hit me and be like, bro, I didn't
even know such and such a thing like that, Are
this person cold and that person? And then some people
are like, yeah, man, that damn that nigga is what
and this is and this is not this is established artists. Yeah,
it's because that was not me taking a shot at

(26:55):
up and comers. That was me taking a shot everyone.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Who is not who knows that's foot foward, who knows better,
especially the ones who know better. Who knows knows better
and we've heard better from Yeah, and this is But
then that also goes to the challenge of the song
though too.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, it absolutely goes to the challenge of the song
because it's and this is different and just re singing
a hook challenge. You kind of you put a challenge
out there for someone to be a writer, a producer
and a singer. Yep, right, this is like can you

(27:35):
get because the levels are these and not not the
level of I'm talking about the actual audio levels. Yeah,
killing you gotta make ship.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Makes good.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Come on, man, there are YouTube tutorials.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Man down here or up here, and then Chris is
right here. It did overseeing him and do forty seven
thousand runs. Y'all know how I feel about all that
damn run.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
You feel about the runs?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
You know I feel about all that damn running. Man, this,
if you're gonna do all that running, give me some
because they accidentally vegan and I am not. But but yeah,

(28:25):
so that's that's my whole thing with the child is
it was funny because of course I got attacked, which
I thought it was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
But but you.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Somebody literally said, I don't even care if he blocked me. Well,
that defeats the purpose for you to listen if if
it hurts you, hit dog's house, hit dog's house. Come on, man,
just I just you know I've been there. I've been
the artist trying to get a record deal. Getting a

(28:58):
record deal, getting out of a record deal, putting out
independent records. I've listen, I've run the gamut of all
of it, and I figured out how to be successful
in music, right, So I feel like if i'm especially
and I've been to me, I've been more successful on
the executive and the writing side, so kind of know

(29:20):
some shit about how to put some things in place,
and I'm just giving that information, like and maybe I
will also, you know, I'm not I'm not a I'm
not going to write a full paragraph and maybe I
should sometimes because things can be taken so many different ways,
you know what I mean, Things can be taken Maybe

(29:41):
you should do a live behind your post. Maybe I should.
Maybe I should do a.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Live alive behind the post.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
If you want to talk to me about should I said,
tune in, tune in them alive.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
I might even tap you.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
In and let you sing. And if you have but
now you can you all sing lee sing your challenge?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, so yeah, I think you know that that's all.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
And that again for us is like as we dive
into that with these challenges and all these things, like
that is all why we do this, you know what
I mean too, to these journeys, these opportunities, all of
these things, these successes, the failures, all of these things
are wrapped into no matter who's sitting in that hot seat,

(30:34):
no matter what they do, no matter where they come from,
We're all trying to understand the parts that we can
extrapolate and apply to what it is that we do.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Working hard. I don't give a fuck what it is.
Working hard applies to everything.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Everything. I learned something on every episode. Yeah yeah, personally
with that, I learned something on every episode, no matter
who we bring on. Because everybody's path has been different.
We have certain things that are parallel and you know,
oh yeah that happened to me too. But for the
most part, everybody's experience is theirs, and I try to

(31:12):
I try to take from everybody's, even the ones that
you know. I'm not an agreeable person at all times,
So some things I may not agree with, but I'm like, Okay,
I get it.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Maybe I wouldn't have done it that way, but I
get it and I respect it because some things worked
out for you, you know what I mean? And like
I said, I just take that as I hope that
the people that tune in and I believe that the
majority of people that tune into the show and tune
into the challenges and all these things really can take

(31:42):
something from it and really can grow from it. And
you know, every now and then, I just got jokes.
I'd be having jokes.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
You just be hard jokes.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well, yeah, I got a little more dark humor. My
humor is a little dark, spirally one. I'll be one
to help.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
I mean, well, speaking of pods, let's let's let's let's
do a top five pod.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Let's the top five pod.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
You're gonna do?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, you do five, I do five. We'll go, we'll
go one, one and one. We'll just go back and forth.
Give me your first one, in.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
No particular, no particular order, in no particular order, babyface.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Mm hmmm, babyface. Because just his journey, bro him and him,
you know, literally writing his life, him writing his life,
him adapting too. I want to be an artist, and
I gotta figure out how to create the artist package

(32:55):
of myself and him just not just taking somebody, not
even just somebody l a read telling him, well, you
ain't there yet, you know what I mean? Obviously I
used the term breathe, but he just told me like,
you're not there. You're not an artist yet. And I
think in this day and age, somebody would have been like,
what you mean.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
I'm not an artist?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
But a Babyface said, oh self, Audity, I don't. I
don't look like that. And this is what and this
is where I want to be, and this is who
I want to be. So let me, let me go,
give me a trench coat, let me go. You know
I need you know what I'm saying, Like, I know
my songs good, I want to sing him. I don't

(33:34):
just want to give him away, you know what I'm saying.
So I think baby Faces episode was really important for me.
And you know, anybody that knows me knows that baby
Face is my favorite, you know what I mean. So
I think his episode was super important for me.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
I'm gonna go with Jamie Fox's my first Yes.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yes, yes for a few reasons. One, I mean, kick
us off, kick us off, shout out to fIF Man.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
We went straight to the move like and then it
being a guy who was very instrumental and in getting
me to the place where I am and fighting for
me and giving me, you know, giving me refuge. You
know what I mean When I needed it, you know
what I'm saying, to have him be very instrumental and

(34:24):
in just kicking this thing off, this journey off for us.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Like he came and pulled up towards when we didn't
have nothing. We had nothing for concept Neil, we had nothing.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Jamie come to our pod, all right, I'm on the way.
That's awesome in a minute, And to do that, I
meant at the at the level like I mean, I
think it's me and you are the same, Like we're
not like we're not settled into like people who are
friends with us, people who are family with us, We're

(34:58):
not just settled into that. We respect who they are
and what they've accomplished. Also, we don't take that part
for granted. And Jamie Fox every award, oscar, every level
of entertainment at the highest height, like he's a list
to just say I'm on the way, like that was
just it couldn't be that.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah. Another one for me would be.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
I mean Chris Brown, Yeah, no, I mean Chris Brown
is I mean his episode was really important because I
felt like we created a safe space for him naturally,

(35:47):
not like we purposely were like, oh, we gotta know.
I just felt like, you know, because of our relationship
with him and knowing him for so long and our
love and respect that we all have for each other,
made it where people could see him in a different
space where he was more comfortable. And I just think

(36:09):
his story and what he's what he's done should be studied.
I think it should be studied. I've never seen and
I was telling somebody this, I've never seen anyone in
anything Rain for this long where they didn't have really
anybody battling them at that level. To me, like, there's.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
No no one.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
You know, I'm talking about during his reign, right, not
like when he first got there, and yeah, she did,
it took time, but I mean like his reign has
been a good fifteen years of Chris and everybody trying
to figure out how to compete with Chris more so
than it's like, and I'm talking about from a record
since where can you know when we thought about the

(37:05):
people mentioned the verses and all those types of things,
Niggas was gonna have to pull back from a long
time ago before him, before him, not during his time, right,
So I mean, ship even Michael Jordan had Dominique Wilkins,
did you know what I mean, but.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
You think Dominique won that one dunk contest?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
He beat him in one dunk contest. That's about it, right,
But I don't, I don't really in Chris's I had
there's nothing, hasn't lost contest. He definitely ain't lost. No serious,
it's just a it's just a really it's just a
really tough space for everyone because his output as well,

(37:52):
you know what I mean, the quality of his output.
And like I said, I think for me, his episode
was really important because knowing him for so long and
also seeing him and interviewing him as a grown man. Yeah,
knowing him as a fourteen fifteen year old and then
interviewing him in his thirties was like, wow, you know,
this is real growth and I'm just proud to see

(38:16):
it and to talk to him about the accomplishment. So
his his episode was really special to me.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I'm gonna go Mitchell Jones and Carl Read.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Aah yeah yeah yeah, and bringing.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Parks with him, bringing parks with him like my childhood heroes,
Like there was John p Key, Reverend John p Key,
and there was Commission m hm, and that is that
that is where I forged. Yeah, my my everything Mitchell

(38:54):
Jones was the man I wanted to be. Yeah, I
want to sing just like Mitchell Jones. Like when we
the groups I was in, we would fight to see
who would be Mitch. I'm Mitch. You know, I'm Mitch.
Like I'm Mitch. I do everything miss does like come on, man,
like let me be mischiev that Like it was that

(39:16):
and like I cried during that episode. I don't think
people knew that I did. You did a great job
of talking a lot to keep I was. I was cooked,
I was.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I was just overwhelmed. I was like, man, these guys
are I'm talking to these guys. I have a platform
and I'm getting to just have this conversation with some guys.
I never ever thought as a kid that I would
be in a room with not that capacity. I thought
take considered concerts. You know what I'm saying. I've gone

(39:54):
and seen them on stage. I've walked past them at
like big gospel conventions like that, the commission cook that,
and now I'm sitting down chopping it with him, you
know what I'm saying. And Mitchell like, man, you you're
an assassin. Bro. You nice with it, right, I'm nice
with it.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
You mean that he was really crying. I was cooked
her Thomas commission bro. And you know, people can be
like you count too many, But I want to merge
because I have so much respect for all four of

(40:37):
these guys, Her Lily, James Fauntleroy, John T. Austin, and
Sean Garrett.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
You're sick.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
You can't do that, I know, but it's our show
and I gotta like, I gotta take this moment. I
gotta take this moment because they were so much inspiration
for me, and I don't even know if I've ever
really told them that, you know, obviously when they were
on the show, I'm telling them how much, you know,

(41:08):
I love and respect and appreciated how much they did
for music and did for me and just watching them work.
But the fact that I got a chance or that
even and that we got a chance to really highlight
the soundtracks to everybody's lives of the last twenty twenty

(41:30):
five years, because between those four guys, as a songwriter,
everything like people don't understand each one of their runs,
and I feel like there's such unsung heroes and this
whole thing of music, not just R and B music,
but just in music. In general, because it's highlighted amongst

(41:55):
the purists and the people who know music. But it's
not like they're getting the adoration and that type of
respect just in the streets, because most people don't even know,
you know what I mean? Like I meant that when
I said, like Harold Lily was my neighbor for ten
years and just walking around cooking up, had never done

(42:19):
an interview, had never done you know what I'm saying,
And you don't know my name? And can I take
you out tonight and brave my hair and predictable, you
know what I'm saying. Because Harold he really never jumped
out because he wasn't trying. You know, he never even
attempted his artistry really from that standpoint, so you really

(42:39):
never saw him, you know what I'm saying, Like you
or heard his name, You would hear James, You would
hear John Say, you would hear Sean because they were
also artists, right. But those four those episodes are really
important for me to be able to give that platform
to guys that I have so much love and respect for.

(43:02):
And like I said that, I even though we're all
around the same age, I look up to those guys's
from their accomplishments and the things that they've done. So
I know I cheated, I get it, but those four
twelve year but we do that to everybody else. Casey Ah,

(43:27):
we got to sing harmony with Casey.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
We sang harmony. We sang harmony.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Do you believe in love and the promise that it gets?
I want to love you for life because your love.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
We sang that.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Mister ooh yeah, yeah himself, you understand. Okay, that's a
that's a legendary moment. As we said, commissioned and John
p Key, I now introduce you to to me falling
in love with R and B music in two places

(44:08):
where it starts with Jodasy and R Kelly. When I
used to go to different churches and sing basically like
you sound like a gospel Jodasy.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Because I was, And that was the biggest compliment you
could possibly Yeah. You couldn't tell me nothing. You couldn't
tell me nothing out there. Yeah, yeah, is that what
you heard? You heard that because that's what she's going for. Yeah,
I'm glad you heard that. Casey sitting right there. Yeah,
so you having my baby and it means so much

(44:43):
to me There's nothing more precious than the raise of
family to sing to.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
The first time I ever saw him was with Little
Cedric and the Haley Singers at a church in Wisconsin,
running down the middle aisle, singing court that music, singing
the face off, singing that liquor, Yeah, game j J.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Another one for me, obviously would be and A. People
that know me, if his babyface is is La, it's
the face for me is being able to have both
of them and give both of them their episodes. La
read Bro. It's just he's a wealth of knowledge. He

(45:34):
understands and loves R and B music, you know what
I mean, even though he's done multiple genres of music,
which he came on here and talked his talk and
shit about the things that he signed and the things
that he's you know, helped become these artists and these
you know, become superstars. He is R and B music,

(45:56):
like La and Babyface are R and B music, just
like you know Jimmy and Terror R and B music, right,
And but I think having having those business conversations were
really cool because I think those are the two sides
of me. Right. As much as I love as much
as I love music, and as much as I you know,

(46:19):
I love the art of music, I love the business.
I really do like figuring out ways to make the
business make sense for myself and for other people. So
to talk to somebody like like an La read and
for him to give his take on all of it, man,
that was mind blowing. And it took it. It took

(46:42):
a minute to get him to, you know, to pull up,
because you know, I think people at that level, they
they already know some of the gripes that we talked
about earlier. They know that it'll be judged in some
a certain way. They know that it'll be you know
what I mean. So they're like, why would I even

(47:04):
And I once again, I just I love that we've
created this safe place for people that are in this
industry and have done with what they've done in the
game to say, you know what, I'm willing to go
sit with them. I want to talk to those guys
because it'll be different, It'll be different, It'll be different.

(47:24):
So you know, I really loved his episode favorite.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I love I love it.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I love it. Yeah, I'm gonna go Smokey Robinson, Smokey
Robinson for me. Yeah, Yeah, I've been screaming the authority

(47:53):
of R and B since we started this right and
for a long motherfucking when Smokey Robinson walked in the door.
The authority of R and B music set in that
motherfucking chair. He's the authority on all things R and B.

(48:22):
You can't tell me nothing else. When I scream, we
are the authority on R and B music, we had
Smokey Robinson sitting right there. He signed, he signed the
record in the front, and we're gonna pull up on him.

(48:42):
We've been giving clearance to pull up on him and
sit down with him and talk nuance on how to
build an empire from R and B motherfucking music. Yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
I you can't.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
You can't tell me nothing. You can't tell me nothing. Listen, listen,
I gotta you know there's let me write this down.
There's a couple of people that you know, I want
to get who we're looking forward to having the pot
to me write this down real quick. It's almost said
the name almost jumped the gun, and I don't want
to jump the gun.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Save my guns, all right.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Uh, well, that's only four from you and four for me,
all right, it's fourteen for me.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
But let's yeah, you're like, you're eighty seven, so you
got one more? Oh favorite, my favorite, just you know
right now, one of my one of my tops. Okay, Michelle,

(49:55):
that was That was a incredible episode. Michelle bro incredible.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Came and share her story, her drive, everything that she
went through to get to the place that she's at,
just because I didn't know it, you know what I mean,
Because that's the other thing about me, I you know,

(50:21):
and you know, some people may look at this like, oh,
you should do more research on us. I do do research,
but I don't really like to watch other interviews before
we interview people. I'd rather, you know what I mean, Like,
I'd rather have just real conversation than to be looking
for discovery, you know, and discovery more so than oh yeah,

(50:41):
so I heard you said. I don't want to do that.
So some things, if I don't really really know a
person personally, I won't know. And before we did that interview,
I didn't know her personally like that, right, And man
I was I was blown away since I didn't really

(51:03):
I didn't know her as well. I didn't know the
full story as much as the story she gave because
I'm sure she got way more, way more. But I
just her episode was lit bro y'all doing sex in Atlanta.
Its freestyle that that ship was, that ship was super
dope and and I just I love cam Shield from

(51:27):
that day for it, I was like, Oh, she's awesome.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
For my last one, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.
Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
His episode was so legendary.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Snoop Dog don't go nowhere for nobody unless there's a bag.
I'll tell you that Snoop Dog is a business. Yes,
yes man, Yeah, yeah, his dial up is crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
His his memory, bro the history connected to that man,
man who to me and probably to you too, is
the most recognized rapper in the world.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yes, yes, the most record where I don't care where
you go. I don't care what color you are, I
don't care.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
What God you serve.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
You know Snog you know Snoop Do you know Snoop Dog?
And you're gonna want.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
A picture, And you're gonna want a picture. No, it
was you might not even smoke weed, but you'll take
a puff.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Our cleaning lady.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Are clean and I've seen her a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
She bare Joseph. She didn't talk about when WII where
we will why she was standing in the corner waiting
when every time I turned, she was looking like it's
time you better introduce me. I want to meet the dog.

(53:14):
So when I finally was like you want me Snoop,
She's like yes, yes, yes, yes, like immediately was not
playing about meeting the dog.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
His his business just just it's just to me, his
evolution in business and branding and building, which is just something.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Like you said, to be steady.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
I don't think people are listening or watching him enough
and applying, like really listening to what he's doing. Like
Snoop Dog, don't wear nobody clothes, snoop dog were dog clothes.
It's snoop dog sweatsuit, it's snoop dog shoes, it's snoop

(54:00):
dog socks and draws. He's not smoking anybody else's weed.
He's smoking snoop dog weed. He's not drinking out of
anybody else's cups. These are Snoop dog cups.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
I've never seen anything like that.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Nah, not like that, not like that, not like that.
He is he is walking business, walking business. And then
he got all the hit records that you want and
hit records. I just think that like for me, he
is a he is a study guy for me. He's
a steady guy for us in business and and not

(54:40):
like not saturating himself to the point to where I
don't even think there's a thing of oversaturation, right, but
being smart about the things he's connected to and how
he uses them to always keep his fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Yeah, keeps his cool man controversy. Even he's still the dog.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
The dog foll snoops. Episode was legendary.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Who are you looking forward when we when we when
we get back, when we get back up and running?
Who are you looking forward to having on the pod?
I got? I got a few names that I'm looking
forward to.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Jimmy Jay, I hate you. You can say you're looking
forward to them too. You said it all, Okay, give
me because you took some of my top five studie
the episodes, I took some of your you know.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Who else We're gonna give you like four or five.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Beyonce. Beyonce has to pull up, bro.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
You know I mean to be high. You know I
was gonna say that, I know you are.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
High, beyon say you got you gotta pull up, man,
you know, come come on. You know I ran into
your managers. I ain't gonna say their names because everybody
don't you know, they don't be knowing who you know
represent to be, you know what I'm saying. So I
don't want to throw those guys' names out like that. Uh.
But you know I ran into him after the Grammys

(56:15):
and we talked.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Did they say she's seen the episode?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
They didn't. I ain't gonna lie on them. I didn't ask.
I didn't ask, but they watched the people get close
to her watching. Sure, but you know, ye, I say,
and my other two and I close out with these

(56:38):
two is no actually three?

Speaker 3 (56:40):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Let me go my five Brandy and Joe damn man
o Brandy and Joe, like, come on, man, and then
my fifth curveball. I need Steph Curry to pull up. Wow.
I need Steff to pull up I like that. I

(57:02):
need Steff to pull up dog.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
We need to talk about the Super Bowl. I need
I need it, hopefully don't even remember. I need to
apologize to the picture where it happened. I need Deli
to pull up. Man.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah man, you know, mister fab calling Deli bup good.
I need that fab Deli bow to pull up for us.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Man. I like that. Okay, all right, here's mine to
some of mine.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
So your restructure list, you let me go restructure.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I had a lot of names over he I had
like a top twelve. Deleted the wars. You said, keep
sweat the sweat.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yep, yep, because again like the dog Father, business, all
the information, all the business, the music business, the stock
market business, marketing business, movie business, business, promotion, interior design business,

(58:14):
all marble everything.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Nolka. Yeah, we need to.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Genuine gee what you know what? I'm not listen. You
know in due time we need the wine. We'll get
the wine. Davante swing.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I gotta. I gotta have my other father on here.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
H you do claim me as your dad. Here's your
musical father. Is your musical father?

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I get it, he owes me. Yeah, he missed a
lot of years. He owes me child support. I'll take
it in sounds. Give me something all you can get
and and last, but not even the least.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Diana Ross, Oh, that would be amazing, that would be amazing.
I'm a Crown number. Yeah, I can see you crying.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Yeah, she just she just represents something so out of
this world.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
It's just I don't want to do five forget that.
I want also, Uncle Charlie, Uncle Charlie, Jasmine celibate. You
know how much I love Jack, I love absolutely Walker.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're putting the press on some
season were putting. Come get these flowers, usher uhher, come
get trickies, Come get these flowers. Man stared rock Rothiel,

(01:00:08):
Oh my god, come on alo.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
H faith evidance, faith, my god, come on, sis. I
know you watched the shows. Don't don't, don't play. I
know you've seen some clips. I know you've seen some clips.

(01:00:36):
You might have even watched the full episode. All right, Okay,
you're good. Yeah I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
But I'm gonna stop there because once I said Dona Ross,
I can't say no more on that you said I said,
Dona Ross.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
I think we.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Get that, maxed, I might not do no more pods.
Diana come walking in here, y'all come looking for me? Man,
donad's here. I'm out mm hmmm, die happy. Let's do something.
Let's do some fun. Let's do something fun. Man, it's
just so serious. All right, let's do uh, let's do it.

(01:01:18):
I ain't saying no names. We always make other people do.
I ain't saying no names. Well, listen, actually I did it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I ain't saying no names. You've never done it. I
ain't saying no names.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I think that that's besides the point. What we're saying
right now is on our close out episode one one
hundred and fifty episodes. Uh, Jay needs to do. I
ain't saying no names.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
I'll do it. I ain't saying no names too. This
episode deserves that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
Okay, am, I I'm going you're you're up, Somebody tell
a story. Funny are fucked up? Are funny and fucked up?
I just ain't about to say no names. So years ago,

(01:02:08):
there was a certain young R and B diva who
I had known him passing, And there was an athlete
HOMEI of mine that was you know, we.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Was that was my dog, my dog. And one night
we was we was out and you know we we uh,
we were being responsible. Hm. So we had taken a
car service, you know, from his crib, and then I

(01:02:44):
was gonna take another car service from his crib to
my crib, right like you know it's gonna do that. Actually,
I'm sorry. It was gonna drop him off and then
drop me off take me to my house, right. But
as we're approached in his house, he goes, hey, bro,

(01:03:07):
come in crib for like like fifteen minutes. I'm like, what,
I'm going home. We're like no, no, no, no, some
something about to pull up. So I'm like, ah, here
we go, right, and you know, I decide, I'm like,
all right, you know, being niggas, being young niggas. This

(01:03:28):
was years ago. I'm like, I need to see what
he what he got pulling up? Right, because we all
go through this. Do the athletes get do the R
and B niggas get uh dode? We both know, right,
So he's not giving me a full heads up. He's
just saying I need to stay. So I'm like, all right, cool.

(01:03:50):
Not five minutes later, the doorbell rings, I'll be right back.
That's my I'm like a shot. So he proceeds to
walk back in with a young lady that knew me,
not personally like that, but we knew each other. And
it's three in the morning and she's walking into said

(01:04:15):
athlete's house and when she sees me, it's like she
sees a ghost even though we had you know, we
had no history. Of course I put that out there.
We had no history. But you know, walking into a
house at three in the morning after the club, it's
tough to see somebody you know in that house. So

(01:04:38):
she's like, right, we have that moment. We laugh it off.
She knows what it is. I know what it is.
I'm like, hey, y'all, I gotta go. Literally that interaction.
Now the story gets a little deeper, uh athlete, because

(01:05:05):
at the time I'm living back and forth in La
and San Francisco. I got spot in both, and now
I'm in San Francisco. About a week later, the homie
hit me. They're playing one of the Yeah, they're playing
one of the Bay Area teams, and he's like, bro,

(01:05:26):
let's let's go out in the Bay let's you know,
let's what's what's popping. I'm like, what in San Francisco
it's usually only one spot on this night. He's like, Oh,
we're there, hit the DJ. I don't ask who else
might be there, who could be hosting the club, any
of those things. We get to the club and as

(01:05:51):
we're walking in, who do we see? Same R and
B Diva, But this time she's in the club. With
her R and B boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Oh no, And.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I'm like, oh shit, this is really interesting because I
don't think she was single last week man when she
was going into this man's house. And but I don't

(01:06:42):
know her boyfriend like that. It's not a guy I
really know to this day, I don't really know it, right,
it's not I just you know, I don't. It's another
guy in the industry. And I called him her R
and B boyfriend, but he was more of industry boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
They may have done some R and B may have
done some may have done something right, And I'm this
is crazy. And I see them kind of catch a
little eye contact, but act as if they don't know
each other. What is what is the the the club

(01:07:25):
promoter wants to do. He wants to put our table
right next to theirs?

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Why not make it because that's what you do. The
club promoter doesn't know. It's like, oh, I got the
R and B in the house. I got to and
I got jas Allentown. Who from the city up in here?
We up in here all the star Yeah yeah, m hm.

(01:07:53):
The homie leans over it says, look at this text.
We hadn't been in the club two minutes no sir,
R and B Diva is apologizing in the text within

(01:08:19):
two minutes of us we might ain't definitely ain't no
bottles game. I'm not sure if we've even fully set out.
I'm so sorry. I didn't know you were gonna be
out here. This looks crazy. I'd rather be with you,

(01:08:45):
like honest, yeah, yeah, and yeah, and we partied and
laughed and I'll never forget it. I never forget it, man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
It's very interesting, very interesting time every time I see
this young lady. That is because every now and then
I see her. Every now and then I see her
and we kind of both just laugh because she didn't
end up with either one of them. But you know,

(01:09:29):
that's the world saying on that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
I ain't saying on that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Ooh, that's how it can sum up out here, man, quickly. Yeah,
because it's really small.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
But it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
But it is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
It's not if you, if you, if you have any
type of motion, then the places you're going to end
up are places where people who have motion are going
to be.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
This is what I've also always told every woman I've
ever dated, just tell me, because I know everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yeah, just tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Yeah, don't think because they were generations before I was
in the game that I ain't ran into this guy
or don't know this guy and don't have me in
them rooms like that just because I ain't tripping once
you tell me it's oh he was wild. Cool, you
lived your life. But don't put me in a position

(01:10:35):
where I'm in that room and I don't know and
it's Texas being exchanged, even if y'all not still dealing
with each other. But like, just nigga sending me an
extra bottle a su spade, I see you playing, no nigga,

(01:10:59):
don't let me drink no ship from a nigga that
used to poor.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Man. Don't let me drink champagne from a nigga who
used to poor champagne. Own you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
That's all I ask.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
That is a great rule.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
That's all I ask.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
All.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
That's all I ask. That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
But yes, Oh that's a good that really happened in
real life.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Okay, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
I can't. I'm not gonna go that way. I'm gonna
go different. That was great.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
My humor is dark, Yeah, just so so I'm a
young kid and I get signed as a kid to
this label and you know everything about the guy who

(01:11:59):
owned that label.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
The conversation was very like you know it, you know,
this is like this, this is a black man. You
know what I'm saying. It's like, in a sense, like
the ultimate black man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
You know what I mean? Is what I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I'm I'm I'm looking at you know what I'm saying,
and like just from from a success standpoint, and it's
the people he was involved with, I'm like, and just
the conversation about the brothershood, the brothers are sticking together
and looking out for each like all these things. Right,
I'm like, Okay, all this, all this sounds great. I
want to be down. You know what I'm saying. I'm

(01:12:36):
with some guy, other guys that have brought me to
this guy. I'm like, let's yeah, let's put it all together.
And so, you know, we fly out to New York
two do a couple of meetings, you know, with with
said executives. And while we're doing while we're meeting going
to meet him, he's like, you guys, come with me

(01:12:59):
to me with this company that I have partnership with
I've got a few partnership will come to me with
this meeting, you guys can sit in and see.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
You know how all this goes?

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Like cool?

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
All right, kid, I'm like I'm rolling. And so we
get into this meeting, sitting at this big meeting at
this big record company, and we're talking about a soundtrack,
a soundtrack in which this executive has multiple artists and

(01:13:30):
multiple songs on the soundtrack, some of the biggest artists
in the game at that moment. And while we're sitting there,
they're talking about singles for the soundtrack, what songs we're
going to do singles for And as they're announcing the singles,

(01:13:51):
as they get to one, two, and three, at no
point have they said any of the artist and songs
that the executive that I was there with brought to
the table. Now, mind you, just to give you some context,
they called this executive guy who I'm with, to bring

(01:14:15):
these artists in this music to help elevate the soundtrack,
and then in turn didn't make any of those records
the singles. Now, mind you, I've been in meetings where
there's been you know, disagreements and dust ups. Of course,

(01:14:38):
I've been in it, but this is my intro into
the music business, you know. And I'm thinking, Okay, we're
in this space where I guess if there's some to
any type of disagreement, they'll, in a very business way,
have this conversation. And so the executive that I'm with

(01:14:59):
perceive to ask the question and says, so, who made
the decision on these singles? And you know, one guy
at the head of the table, very uh, very matter
of factly and very boss he says, I made the decision.

(01:15:21):
And the executive that I was with proceeds to say,
why don't you think that was a dumb motherfucking decision?

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
And what is going on? He said, what do you mean?
What the fuck do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
I mean? You motherfuckers dragged me all the way over
here to elevate your shit. That wasn't about shit, bring
you my motherfucking multimillion record selling artists just so you
could pull some bullshit like me, you motherfucking crackers. I
ain't ever gonna get this shit off while I'm alive.
I'm like, you say, crackers shit, and proceeds to to

(01:16:02):
lay into.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
The entire table and staff of this record company like
they were children, then says matter of fact, I don't
even want to talk to you motherfuckers no more. You
motherfuckers is nobody's I'm going upstairs to see the motherfucker
that pays you bitch, motherfucker that. Wow, I'm sitting there

(01:16:27):
like this, Yeah, put some respect. Respect needless to say,
uh it. Singles were number one, two, and three on

(01:16:50):
that soundtrack. And I don't recommend you do this in
a meeting where you just agree. I don't recommend this.
He was he was one, He's one of one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
But it worked.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
It worked, you know, I don't. I don't recommend the
name calling. I don't recommend the I don't recommend the
abusive of any means. People were concerned for their lives
in this meeting, and and the singles changed and they
probably should have. Yeah, I will never ever, that was

(01:17:38):
my intro to the music business, My first music business
meeting at a level.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
That was it aren't those aren't those those meetings? There?
They interesting?

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Ight there? Back then? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yeah, mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Back then in those days and this is this is
late nineties for me. When I first got into a
meeting like that, you can really get fucked up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Out here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they didn't used to have security at labels.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Let me thanks your dad.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Every label had security out for my father. I remember
coming back to l A. I'm like, wait, so we
just don't walk up no more, no, sir, sir, no sir,
matter of fact, arm security. You wait, especially you got
some people need to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Oh. Man, you know, it's all part of the process.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
It was part of the process, man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
And I don't recommend that either. I don't remember been
going that route, but I do say you have to.
If you believe in something, you have to fight for
what you believe in. Yes, not with violence, but you know,
with information and truly being able to Like you said earlier,

(01:19:08):
just articulate. If you can articulate what these records really
mean and the impact that you believe that they'll have.
I think you should. I think you should stand on
who you are, who you are and your opinion, stand

(01:19:31):
on your opinion, and be willing to deal with whatever
repercussions that is because if it fails, yes, it's your
ass it is, and you may not get that opportunity again.
But if you believe it's going to be successful, I
personally believe that you should fight for that and not
just accept a motherfucker telling you, yeah, I said that,

(01:19:55):
Why did you say that? And they should be able
to tell you why they said that, why they think
that it work. But I'm glad it worked. I'm glad
it worked too. I'm glad it worked. I'm glad I was.
I was there, and I was, I was there, I was.
I guess I was gonna by default go down with
the ship for sure. Everybody, just everybody. I just got here.

(01:20:18):
I didn't know he was going to say that didn't matter,
didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
How about some how about as we close out this
one fifty how about some thank yous man?

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Yeah, yeah, thank you, some shout outs. Yeah, let's start
with with our team. Yeah, with our team man with
Ruben Jacob, Yeah absolutely, boudzero do you know what I'm saying? Like,
we know both work for Black Effect, but both our guy,
it's our guy, our guy about these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
Uh, we'd be on Instagram live doing doing this spot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
That's where it started started. We still got a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
How do we get we got.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Because that's before you could add multiple people too. Yeah, yeah,
that's where Yeah, that's where that's where it started, you
know it shot. Like I said, once again, shout out
to Jamie Fox. Shout out to Jamie fox Man for
killing up and kicking it off with us Problem Nick
you yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean like you said early

(01:21:32):
in the beginning, was super early and were just like, nigga, Yeah,
episode I come talk to you, episodes we played to
get our deal.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Yeah yeah, I mean Jamie Fox was clearly the the
the it closed the case. It wasn't nothing to talk
about after that. But these guys, you know, Problem and Nick,
and they pulled up when it was just like, nigga,
let's get it my nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
But nohout out to iHeart, I heart, shout out to
Doc Winter Doc Shot, and shout out to someone who
really had no skin in the game, no no dog
in the fight of it at all. Wasn't a part
of it technically. That just literally cussed everybody out about

(01:22:20):
us early on. Julia Jones absolutely who was not listen
if it, if it, if she knew that it came
across your desk, she like, why the fuck yain't in
business with R and B money, That's right. So shout
out to Juliet that's our sister. She's fought for us
along the way, even from the music side. But this

(01:22:41):
podcast don't exist in this form without her.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
But yeah, everybody at I heart, everybody had Black Effect.
Everybody had Black Effect. Who Charlamagne who told them they
wanted to be a part of what we were doing,
you know what I mean, Dolly, their whole team over there, man,
Like they've they've been great for us, and they've been
great partners with us, man, and I'm super appreciative of them.

(01:23:11):
Ship man, and all the R and B Money viewers
and followers and fans and family to the podcast, to
the label that literally the subscribers, the people that literally
have notifications on that are waiting for our new episodes
every week.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Anybody screaming R and B Money in the airport, in
the mall, at the at the Chipotle, Oh y'all man,
Like y'all don't y'all don't know to watch my basketball?

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Is that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
The flight attendant like, like, you guys don't know how that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Ship is super cool? Man, that's really really cool. But yeah,
and then just just shout and shout out to shout
out to the people that literally make their own clips
mm hmm post them have you know, literally just spread

(01:24:16):
the word.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
We are not mad at you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
We love that, you know what I mean. And I
try to get to as many of them as possible
to repost it or to you know, just even just
say thank you. And I mean, right now, I just
want to say thank you to the you know, the
people who literally and the people who are in the
comments sections talking shit. I still appreciate y'all because that
means that you're engaged. I'm not gonna always agree, but

(01:24:41):
I appreciate that they're that engaged and that they're passionate,
and you know, they be like why don't y'all try
and then sometimes be like why don't you get your
own shoe? But you know, but then there's certain things
I'm like, oh, that's actually cool. Yeah, maybe maybe we will,

(01:25:02):
you know, put that into the show or figure out
a way to you know, to touch on those subjects,
and maybe, you know, I will let Tank be more
of a music nerd because y'all be wanting the music
nerd ship. Man, I won't be like, I think we
don't want to hear about twelve niggas.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
For the violin down there?

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
And you know what I gotta say, thank you Jy,
thank you Brother Valentine, thank you to my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Man, thank you. Do you know what I'm saying? Thank
you for shureing up. I know you don't want to
do this ship all the time, a superstar like Yo,
I'm just me. You got shows you to do after this.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
This is way easier to do. This is whol has
to get to sit down and talk to you don't
talk or a yeapper. This works out perfect for me.
But I think just you know, our chemistry and just
just what we're able to do. It shows in this space,
our brotherhood, shows in this space what we believe in,

(01:26:02):
our unified goal. And then just the sauce Man were
the only podcasters they can They're really active in the space.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
We had a number one single on radio. Yeah, as
as a full pod Nigga Yeah us performance Soul Trained.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
I like to say, I.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Want to keep doing the show. Yeah, I want to
grow from it not being a podcast. I would like
to continue to scale up. I wanted to be the
R and B money show that right, because yes it
is conversation. But now that we are adding performances and

(01:26:52):
you know, we're adding more information from all sides, you
know what I mean, Like this week in arm B
is coming, it's coming. Talk to them, you know what
I mean? You know other other other things, that other
content pieces that in the space. We're creating more things
than purely a podcast podcasts. I'm not one of those

(01:27:14):
people who thinks that the word is oh, don't call
them podcasts. No, I just think that for us, it's
time to elevate the show. It's time to elevate the show.
And I know you want to do skits and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
We gotta have fun, baby, we gotta have fun. We
need a place where our people are artists, can show
their personality.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Man. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
We got the music, We we got the we got
whatever movie, whatever TV show that is, We got whoever
you play for, whatever team.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
We got that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Now let's scale all that back and just have a
good time, have some fun. So it dorn't be money.
Things are happening, Things are happening. You're developing, man, Yeah,
you know, right before your eyes, baby, So don't blink.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Man, o, god, that's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
We did that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Yeah, we did want fifty And you guys have watched
one hundred and fifty episodes, hopefully of the Army Money Pack.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
If you have not go and catch up before season
four starts.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Go catch up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
You don't want to miss anything, and then you'll be
able to see the progression that ultimately becomes season four
and you don't want to miss that. I want to
say one more thing before we close out. Congratulations what
I do?

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Yeah, you know you are a Broadway actor.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
Now people got to talk to me different now, man.
You know, you know, you know it helps kitchen man,
and you know, you know, you know, shout out to
Akay you know Lisia King.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Yeah, she called. You know, you know you talk to her.
I seen no based down. You know what I'm saying.
She employs.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Shout out to Swiss who who reached out immediately and
sent the love and sent the whatever you Neque King,
you know how Swiss is whatever you need.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
And you know me, I'm a I'm a guy, very
little maintenance man.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
I just want to do the work.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
And so I'm I'm very excited about getting into that
space and and and cooking and being part of something
really really great.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
I think that's the natural progression. For you know, honestly,
you know, I think you're a great actor.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
You did J Junior dude junior junior.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
At least on the BT. Listen TV one Dizzy that's
him on him. I can't tell me nothing. They tried
to kill my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
That might not get you know, so make sure y'all
catch my brother Hell's Kitchen. Yes, Broadway, this is this
is a different level of acting in and of commitment.

(01:30:29):
I commend you for that, bro, because it's tough to
take that type of leap to say, you know what,
this is what I'm about to focus on, and this
is what I need to do to elevate my career
in places that I feel I haven't just yet, you
know what I mean, like the R and B start

(01:30:51):
going and do it and Broadway just out of nowhere.
It's amazing, Bro, So super excited for you at a
height and at a real cycle fights.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
And for me it was just like, what do you
want out of this? Yeah? What do you want out
of this?

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
You're gonna do it for me?

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
I don't want nothing easy, And this is this is
I want to take the stairs and these are real stairs. Yeah.
So so y'all, don't y'all don't be in my d
ms in my comments bothering me about what a new episode,
because my brother about to be on Broadway by the
time this come out. He's on Broadways, so leave me alone. Yeah,

(01:31:31):
I'm gonna figure out some more ship to talk ship
to y'all. But we got more ship. Yeah, this week
in R and B be rocking and rolling, so we
got more ship and then may be our facetiming here
and there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Yeah, on the show. But you know, you gotta be
on Broadway.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Yeah, that's that's super cool because I ain't never really
had no homies on Broadway, so this is the first
time be on Broadway like that. Congratulations, dog, thank you
take I'm Jay Valentine and this has been one hundred
and fifty episodes of cool shit, of coul shit, of
cool shit, brol We've done really cool shit, no clickbait,

(01:32:13):
no bait, good times, good time, more flowers to be given,
more flowers to come. Thank you guys for staying with us.
And we are the authorities.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Don't know our things, honestly, honest. Yeah,