REPLAY: K Michelle

Tank and J Valentine welcome the illustrious K Michelle. In a far-reaching conversation, she shares her tumultuous journey through the music industry, from singing in church as a child to dealing with abusive relationships tied to her record deals. K Michelle opens up about lengths she had to go to make ends meet and hating doing music under labels that control her. After six R&B albums, she breaks free to fully pursue her passion - country music. Ever resilient, K Michelle has fought hard to tell her story through songs. Hear this candid discussion about the inspirational power of following one's dreams against all odds. It's K Michelle on The R&B Money Podcast.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
R and B Money, We are thanks, take about the jib.
We are the authorities on.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
R and B.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Ladies and gentlemen. Money was tank and this he left
and already R Money podcast the authority on all things.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
R and B talk about. Wow, yeah, Wow, here she's here.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
She you know she don't she don't be doing a
whole lot for everybody, not for everybody. But she pulled
up on the family. You know what I'm saying, this is,
this is this is our loved one. I mean, she's
she's just special to me for so many reasons outside
of music. We'll get to some of that too, But

(00:56):
she's a singer, a real one. Stomp down, black foot,
flat foot, that's what case?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
What what y'all were you wanting in whatevere? Whatever one
you want, y'all makes a noise because how you want it?
How do you feel?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Brother?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
You pulled up, you know, brother, put up full glamor
on us. Like I'm trying to understand.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
You're trying to do.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
This is a real thing. Ain't too many people pulling
off the kneon.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yes, yes, I want to do something different.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
It looks good on you, on your complexion. It really
looks do you cooking?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Blessed? Yeah, I'm blessed. I'm in a good place.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Come on in, brother, ye yeah, just turn that, Just
turn that though, because the niggas don't pay us, give.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
You O don't you can.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, we don't put this off camera to go to
your name.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Potty pot it's a clean pot to.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I mean sometimes we get to it. No, talk your
ship with y'all. I'm gonna do that for me then,
and you're gonna get that for you.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Okay, all right, listen, you won't sound.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
No, No, I'm clean.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I'm clean today, clean today, I'm with you. No, that's
you know when that's that's what you do. Right there,
you get that brown going. It's gonna it's gonna get this.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's don't get an aggressive interview. It's don't get aggressive.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
All right, come on, show up.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I like that ship you got. You gotta on the beverage.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Oh, you don't know what you're doing. You don't know
what you have got yourself into.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm ready. I can't wait to see. I can't wait
to see.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I can't wait to see. Let's get to it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Okay, First of all, we've been doing this. We've been
doing this. For a long time. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. We've been on We've been on a lot
of stages together.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yes, yes, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
We've been We've been a lot of houses together, We've
been everywhere together, and and and just to say before
we get into anything, I'm super proud of you, you
know what I'm saying, because you know, none of this
has promised, you know what I'm saying. And along with
the hard work that goes into it, there are also
hardships and setbacks and things that we go through from

(03:44):
a business standpoint and a personal standpoint. And you've been
you know, you've been very, very extremely transparent, which I
would also like to get into just about the things
that you go through in an attempt to encourage people
to just keep on going, you know what I mean,
no matter what it is. So you know you you
still here doing big business and not just in music

(04:04):
but all over you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
So first, we're proud of you, and we appreciate you,
and we love.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
You, thank you so much, and we support.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
You one hundred percent. And you need to get some
food that you're established.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
We'll get whatever the specials is special.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Whatever like we do, ok we like to do We
like to start at the beginning, and we like to
start where it wasn't even you. You you didn't even
know what the music business was. Somebody, somebody just knew
that that that good right there, can sign downside that
good today. Yes, mephis somebody's Baptist church to somebody.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Convention. You know what I'm saying. That girl whoever, whoever,
don't all that is.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
And that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Okay, come on, give me, give me the identification of
I got it or she got it? When did that happen?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Dancy Hayes, Isa Hayes wife.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Hold on, hold okay, we getting right to it.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, you popping off already.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
Yeah you heard her.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Dancy Hayes went to my church and I would always
sing at church, and she would tell my mama she
need to be in the music business. My mom say, no,
she's not. We ain't doing that. This girl going to college.
It's not what we're playing, which is not what we're playing.
And I was singing. I would look for her every
Sunday before I sing. Because I didn't know anything about
how to be famous or anything. I didn't. I was

(05:45):
that young. I didn't even know Isaac Hayes. That what
made me like listen to his music and say, oh
my god. And I would. She had this like like
copper like hair or whatever, and I'd be looking for
her when I would be singing at church because I
want her to make me famous. So yeah, so that's
how it started. And my mom just realized she loved it.

(06:10):
She loved music. So she took me to Bob Westbrook. Hey,
God rest his soul. He trained justin Timberlake. He trained
Britney Spears, yeah, a lot of the Miss Americas things
like that, and he was in Tennessee. So my mama
took me to him and he said, well, who's our
favorite singer And my mom was like, Whitney Houston. And

(06:32):
he was like, I know, you know, like big voice,
but I want to teach you how to yodel. And
my mama was like, what are you talking about? Yodel? Like,
we don't know nothing about that. We telling to see
you don't know about that. He said, no offense if
you let me talk to you, ma'am. They're gonna see
this little black girl with this big voice and they're

(06:52):
gonna expect for her to sing at the talent shows
Whitney Houston. So can I please teach you how to
yoda and teach to different things? And that's when the
real like training and different things you music came.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
How old are you at this point?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I was still like ten?

Speaker 7 (07:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, he said, let me teach her how to yoda? Yes?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
And had you even heard anyone?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I know anything about that. I just know I love
Wennie Houston.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
He was like, this is so far from Whitney Houston.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I was like, why are we doing this? I I
just remember my mom. But I love music, so I
ain't fight too much. I just know I ain't want
to do gymnastics. I ain't had it.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
What how did we go through?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yoderling was horrible, like horrid gymnasty, these little nockknees.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
I was secretary legs.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
It was just not watch secretary legs.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Got secretary.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
They're supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Behind the desk, her legs, and they said she's not
going to be a gymnast. So they put me in
voice and all of that. I play. You know, I
can read music, so I played piano for nine years.
Read music. They were very big into music for me,

(08:23):
and I started to really love just like country music.
And I remember watching Oprah and The Judge, Yeah, and
I knew every Christmas I would get a cassette tape
and I remember watching The Judge and I was so
infatuated and I said, Mama, I want the Judge. That's

(08:43):
the tape I want. They was like, Okay, we get it.
So I knew every Love Can Build a Bridge record,
So do y'all know right now? I just once, God
rest her soul. Naomi just passed like last year, and
her people who did all Love Can Build a Bridge,
they reached out to me. I am I for her

(09:06):
tribute album. That actual song I'm singing, Love Can Build
a Bridge with Jelly Roll Yeah, and it's coming out
and it's like full circle, like people can count you out,
people can look over you, like I love the Judge.
All of my R and B fans bring me Judge stuff.
I never got to meet meet her anything, but I

(09:28):
know every song with The Judge. So when she died,
I was like, oh my god, I never got to
meet her, and so I tweeted that and so the
original producers who found them everything, Thank god. I just
like a couple of months ago, got to get in
the studio with them. I was nervous, but I got
to sing love can build a Bridge and tribute her

(09:51):
and it's about to come out.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
That's amazing, that's amazed.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Congratulations on that huge.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
So that's how I just kind of started liking and
loving that type of music.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
So do you you're talking about ten years old? At
any point out there? Are there talent shows? And is
there the high school I want today is popular ship.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
So there's no one out there that could be like,
you know what, Yeah, I may not sing no more,
but you know that came Michelle, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I won. They can't get that off.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I won.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
I did.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
And I used to do Miss America preliminaries, and I
used to Miss America preliminaries, and I remember my butt
was big then and then they would like wrap my
mom and wrap my butt up for the swim suit competitions,
like to push it in.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
You can't have a lot of ass America.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
It had to be controlled environment. Yeah, yes, about ass.
It's not Miss Methhi basicly, that's that's the one I'm
trying to We need to go to the Mephis areas.
That's where it sat.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, this black away this week and you know there's
a God somewhere.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
You can take the picture, but only.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
God, I say about this stuff up already a pageant?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Girl?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Wow, girl, been a show off? That makes sense? You
know it makes sense. You finishing girl show off? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
And I didn't really loved it, but yeah, and I
just was saying and saying. Then it was time for college,
so I went and I went to I went to
do my scholarship at Florida and University.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
No, no, no, let's let's let's talk about scholarship.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Scholarship.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
You get scholarships for yodling.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Florida A and M University honored me. Uh huh, I
got a yoling scholarship.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
You do.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm doing it on this album.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I've never heard you yodel?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
No one have, and I always have held it.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Are you going to yodel today on my album? To
get Yoda?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
No, You're gonna hit on this album. Every interview I've
known for years, everybody have asked me yoda. And then
the people in college be like, yeah, that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
They wasn't They wasn't your brothers though it's fine, No, No,
it's coming, Jay, It's coming.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
When I started playing this.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Piano, Brown's let's get back to this though.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Scholars scholarship for yodling to Florida A and M University.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
That's a music And.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I did that and I went in there and sang
and told the same country they had. They didn't know
what they was shocked, and I say, you know, I
say my gospel songs. I sang all of that. I did,
like ave Maria. You know, that was like the basic song.
You got to sing a Maria for a scholarship, you know.
So I went there and they gave him scholarship. I

(13:16):
won Miss Freshman my first year and fam You, and
then I was in the show Quiet and did all
of that and Fam You and then I want miss
fam You.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
You're still doing your passion stuff there too.

Speaker 8 (13:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
And I would do likes and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Did you have to wrap up your fam you know,
let her be her man?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
That's I think that's why I got to really just
not got to be me. It wasn't like to.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Fit into anything. Yeah, it was like it's miss fam
You today. Yeah yeah, he said.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Right, yeah, I on your grad Yeah yeah, that's what.
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Went there to to and did I want to say?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
He used to sleep at my doorm?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
What?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
We talked about that all the time. He dated my
roommate and I tried to drop out of school because
Rico love and my parents went crazy, what do you do?
Because I wanted to be a star, and he told
me to drop out of school with him.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
He's coming with me, coming with me.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I can't introduce me to his manjud all of this,
and I was like, I'm going, I am. We used
to sit on the bench before going into the math
class and all of that, and then I know one
day he ain't come back and I looked up and
he was like on Ush's cribs and I was so
pissed in my parents mad. I was like, oh my god,
I should have went.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
With yeah, and it's my other artist right here.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I could not believe it because we we would be
around it. So all we talked about. All we talked
about was music. Yeah, like music, that's all we wanted
to do.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
At fail you So did you finish? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
I finished?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
You know what that come on here? I didn't finish.
I didn't go So I got a full scholarship to
Morgan State. Okay, okay, singing yes, okay, the doctor Carter
now got rest his soul.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
And after about like two months, it was just like
you want you want me turned in my math homework.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, that's what I was feeling.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
You want me to English?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
So would you get your degree in psycho psychology? And
I had a music minor, and then I got a
law school. Yeah, I got three law schools.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
What you got into three law schools in three law schools?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Mm hmm, y'all look at me that it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I didn't media.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Discovery for us, like we know you for years.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
About it for years. Media don't ever they want to
do one.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I don't want to. They don't want to highlight that point.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, but I gonna need somebody to go off. They
never that's never been a thing like I got the
Distinguished Alumni a ward from FAM you and all of that,
you know that type of thing. I pledged Delta Sigma delta.
I did all of day and they never want to
focus on that, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
I graduated, I graduated, I had my son in college.

(16:37):
I graduated with twenty one credit hours and two incompletes
with a brand new baby still in four years.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Oh you got busy, you got busy. We're celebrating that that. Yeah, Jacob,
make that one of the highlight post. Got a highlight post. Yeah,
it's incredible.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I did that. And in that time, it was a
lot of distractions. Like not Rica wasn't a distraction, but
it was let me know, you know, I wanted to
do music. Then I said I was gonna run away
to Broadway. My mom was like, well, you're gonna lead
his car. You're gonna lead his car. You're going to Broadway,
walk to gonna walk. You're gonna pay your own bills.
My daddy is a college professor, and my daddy is

(17:21):
the Morning on Black Kids who teaches history my day
to college professor.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
So he was living in the house with educated Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah. My mother was miss slaying college. She was her
college queen.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
So they weren't playing with you the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
My grandmother was the dean in the school, teacher superintendent.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
She was all that was not playing.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
It was not.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Playing at the church. Dean of the National Baptist Congress.
And I don't got none of that.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
None of that. My family, man, we saw so much dope.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Man.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
You still that.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Makes sense because even in that like I'm still from
Memphis of course, and you know, I always it's so crazy.
Do y'all like see people now like y'all see like
young men and stuff like that, they want to be
gangst so bad, like you know, they won't Like I
was always super rough. I would like super rebelled. They

(18:26):
wanted me like my family would call me Hillary Banks
my mom's side, and I would be so angry, so
I would go hang out. I want to hang out
in the hood, and I would get in trouble and do.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Stuff you the girl that would get us to rent
a car.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, stuff like that, Yeah, coming down here to get it.
Yeah yeah yeah, just get in trouble on your own.
You didn't even have to do what you just did, girl.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yes, And that's why I choked too. I do all
of it. And that's my shows. Yeah, to hang with
like I chose because my dad was my family and
I'm wanted to go to this side of the family.
You know what I'm saying. I would not take that

(19:18):
back because all the ship that I did, and that
was with my cousins. You know what I'm saying, and
that's I only wanted to be with my cousin. I
didn't want to be with the pageant girls without Memphis.
White Haven. Yeah, that's why I went to school and
haven View. We called it black Haven, but it was

(19:38):
called white Haven.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
We call it black Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
So yeah, I'm very Memphis. And my daddy always would
be like, that's my son. I never had that girl,
that's my son's son.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
So you was definitely used.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Gave them here. Yeah, I did a little bit.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
She's fresh out of college, new baby.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Where is your mindset at this point?

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Because they kept telling me my life was over, Like
you know, you got me fucked up? My life ain't over.
So my mom was really big and FedEx. If you're
from Memphis and you get a corporate job, you work
at FedEx. That's all Memphis head corporate. So soon as
I got out, I got in law school. I didn't

(20:26):
want to be a lawyer. My parents like about to
like write me off, girl, if you're gonna be a
lifetime I want to be a singer, and they was
like no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Any other singers in your family.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
My granddaddy sing, and my on my daddy's side, my
my grandmother used to raise bb King and listen to Mississippi.
I talked about that when he walked with his guitar
and wavew and listen to Mississippi. All the stores is
my last name, paid pay stores. He would play with
my uncles and all of that. All the families could sing,

(21:02):
all my grandparents could sing, but it always skipped. It
skipped my mama and my daddy, but my granddaddy. My
grandmama sang in the church until she just never was sick.
Just fell out making Sunday breakfast and just fell out
on the floor. But she gonna go to church and sing.
My granddaddy just passed. My best friend ninety two sang.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Yeah he lived it. He lived he that's it.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
And he got a chance to see you because he
loved me.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Bought I put on my page. I bought my granddaddy.
So many people taking money and doing stuff from you.
I bought my granddaddy a car, a truck. It wasn't
nothing like you know, like it was like six thousand dollars.
That was the best one I ever spent in my
entire career. He was so happy I got it's on
my page. He was crying. He was just so proud
of me. You know what I'm saying, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, so they telling you it's over, and and what
are your movements from there? Because you can say, you know,
what do you go from there? Where do you go
back to Memphis?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I went back to me because I had FedEx. My
mama was you know, my mother was like miss Laying College.
She had her master's degree and she had connects and FedEx.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Oh you want to go work with FedEx?

Speaker 8 (22:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I went to go. If you ain't gonna go to
law school, girl, we're gonna do this. So I went
over to FedEx and it was so crazy. My space
was poppering.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
It was top eight though, I think, yeah, it ended
up growing to top eight. Okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Like music, I was like right, and I remember I
was at working FedEx and Mace the wrapp up he
started a label. And you know how you have people
in your top five. Some dude from Memphis had me
in his top five. I ain't never meet him, don't
know nothing about him. So he had hit Mace, Like yo,
how could I be on your record label. And Mace

(23:07):
was like, I don't know about you, but that girl
can be on my record label. So I get this
random message and he was like, Mace is trying to
get to you, and I was like, no, he's not because.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
You don't know this dude.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, I don't even know him. And so I pick
up the phone and I was like, yeah, this nigga
talks just like Mace. I don't know a better talk
it like Mace. It would sound slow as fuck. And
I was like this, you know, like, I'm.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Like, think you got a lot of time? Yes, yeah, no,
I think you know.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
That's what he was saying.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
I just feel like you can really be something if
you put your mind to it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Yes, And that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
It's maze and I had already. I had made friends
with a lady named Erica Wright and she Johnny Wright's wife.
And for those that don't, you got it all times
that boy, yes, like what like in Sync, everybody, Jones Bros. Everything,

(24:29):
Jenny Jackson, He's done everybody. So his wife took to
me and I called her and said, this man said
he may I left my corporate job and I moved
to Atlanta at the less than forty eight hours, and
I said, I'm out. She talked to Mace and then
Mace moveing to Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Oh okay, So now I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
In an a and I'm doing music. Rico comes back around,
because you know, Rico ends up being a part of
the whole Mace ship. Yeah, all of this. So I'm like,
oh my god, Rico's here. So we're doing this music
and people this fire, you know, here pastor. So my
mom like, I don't know what type of pastor this is? Man, Yeah,

(25:19):
he pastor, he pastor mats not little Mace. And then
I had went home and it was like a club,
and then Antonio Tarvora was in there and he was
like trying to talk to me, and I tell Antonio
tarvor I was like, I don't want to talk to you,
but I'm over here with Mace. I'm trying to be famous.
I want to do this or whatever. So he like, oh,

(25:40):
I'm wanna put the money.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Okay, the investment.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Okay, I don't put the money, let me make yeah.
So then Mace was like so he was so intrigued
with you know, with Tarboro. So I'm fine I'm I'm
good on both ends, you know what I'm saying. And
then one day May try to sleep with me, and

(26:05):
then Tabo tried to be his ass.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Ta take a sip n.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, and then Tabora tried to be his ass and
this ain't nothing, now, just spend when I first time
I told my store me in May school, you know,
laughing about it. So it's not nothing. I'm telling new
or putting nobody on blast like what we talked. So
then he had a record that was crazy, and then

(26:32):
he Mace was trying to charge Tarboro for the record.
Tarma was like, you finna get my girl away from you.
You I'm gonna come beat your ass, and it was
just all of that.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
So then that's when I stopped doing music with Mace
because then that's when Taba was like, no, you're coming
with me.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Then he had the money, yeah, and ain y'all him
so a whole lot of money.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah yeah. And then I just remember girls was trying
to like run me off the road and cars and
stuff when I, you know, got there.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, so you were you weren't messing with Tarboro.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Now I was messing with I wasn't messing with may okay.
So eventually Tarma said, now you gotta go. Yeah, and
I'm gonna just fund out a career around you know, Mace.
I'm just gonna pay for everything. So then.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Shout out to pick up the tab Tarboro. Come on, now,
picking up. That's what I'm talking about. When you like somebody,
you pick up.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
Okay, you do.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
So he believed he you know, he ain't know nothing
about music. You know how athletes always want to do music.
Oh my god, they don't have a clue, but they
always want to do music. But money's been the same.
So I'm going through this, but I'm really getting kind
of off of music because now I'm liking a guy
and all these women and all of this type of
stuff going on. So I remember this. I will never

(27:57):
forget this. This is one of the most pivotal moments
of my career. He tells me, oh my god, I
got you a record deal. I'm like, oh, I got
a record deal. And I thought I was being smart
because I was a college you know, I was a
college girl. I'm like, all the money, the personal money,
you put this here, but the industry money you put

(28:19):
this here. I thought I was up on it. Yeah,
you put my business money in here. Y'all remember Cap
from Sea Sick? Yes, Cap was the manager. Yes, so
you're gonna put this here and then all any money
for a person, anything going on, just go here. So
I'm excited and all stought. We come up and then

(28:42):
all my friends say, can you ask? Can you ask
Antoniokis Tarba? Can we get rooms and all that type
of stuff? And I was like, yeah, I can, you know,
I'm yeah, my friends, so I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, some creation.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
We got the chair, we're at there and then he
say he told me I couldn't go. He said, no,
you can't go, And I said, well why I can't go?
He said, because you need to focus on your showcase
for the label.

Speaker 9 (29:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Focus, Like okay, yeah, I got I had a focus,
you know what I'm saying. And so I just remember
All Star came I remember I had this meeting with
Kevin Black.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Bet On Black legendary.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I'm just I don't care about an All Star because
I'm going to be a star. I'm gonna be a star,
and so All Star came in to miss my Allstar
came in in my meeting was like a couple of
days later, and so all I know is that it
was starting to circulate. I know, I got a text
mess from him, like in the middle of night, I

(30:01):
will always love you, and then it started to circulate.
So cap called me instead Antonio got married. I said,
got married. I said, what you talking about? He was like,
I don't know. Okay, I don't know. You know, Tava
got married. I all start weekend. Got married, I'll star weekend.

(30:25):
And I said, okay, but what're my showcase? And this
ain't real. He ain't that crazy, like he crazy, He
ain't that crazy. It's so got married. I'll start weekend
and I'm getting prepared, like in his house, literally getting
prepared to go do my showcase. I'm like, I want
to focus, and he's meeting me, of course at the showcase.

(30:47):
I can't get him on the phone for like three days.
But I'm like, no, my showcase is still alone. It's
an explanation, you know, I'm just young, dumb. It's an
explanation for everything. And I end up getting ready to
leave Capricier. I said, y'all meeting being counseled, and I said, no,
the fuck my meaning not canceled, And I called I said,

(31:10):
if you don't give me the number who counseled the meeting,
you fired, Cap, You're fired. Give me the meat. Give
me the number I call the girl. She booh and
crying talking back. Oh my god, Oh, I can't ser
your mean because he got married. I said, he didn't
marry me, I said, and it was Kevin Black's assistant.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
She canceling the meeting because okay, putting three and four.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Together, So she canceled the meeting.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
You messing with her too?

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, she said, I just had an abortion by him
last week. And I'm like, I got a son to
take care of. Like, I don't know nothing about this.
I got a son to take care and you my
music is good? She was like, yes it is. So
we get to be cool because I'm like, no, you're
gonna give me my me.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
You gonna give you what I mean. Let me tell
you something. I'll walk into that meeting. I still have
not seen this man. Cap is there, y'all? Remember Donald Woodard? Yes,
Donald Wooded was there. We walk up to this meeting.
Donald Wooded was there. I'm thinking he had got me
a high profile lawyer. He's the lawyer Da da dah.

(32:25):
We walk in. I go in, and Tony or purpose to say, yeah,
they're gonna sign on the spot. So we need Donald
Woodard to go. So we Donald, we all get that
I ain't even put in personally, and I think I'm
being good. I'm just doing business. We get there. He
come in like nothing happened, with his shades and shit on.
He sit down, Kevin Black, we knowing I'm gonna get

(32:46):
it there. Kevin Black and sat come in and say
what am I here? Fault? What's up? He said, oh,
you look like he Sha called. I had never I was.
I was like what?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
I was like what?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Because he they said he had said he was Finns
sign me.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
He don't know nothing about it, though.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
You don't know nothing about it. So the assistant she
got Antonio Tarboro's tattoo, Antonio Tarboro tattoo. I had this
song that keys y'all know, Temphy Bloom Keys, and the
song was saying, what you may not know is that
your boyfriend he's a host. It's gonna shock you, Lee,

(33:30):
and she just bop it and she gonna say, show
Liz this all. Donald what to say? I can't believe this.
I hear him say this, and I said, I feel
I canna be a punk. Didn't get no deal, Ken
Black didn't. It was so much negative energy. You ain't
understand what the fuck was going on. Nothing that obviously
it was the assistant in Antonio doing they want two

(33:54):
So we don't know nothing. So we walk out this
man at it's like, nothing happens. And then I'm like, well,
you're gonna tell me you got married? He said, I'm
gonna tell you on our vacation. So we're supposed to
go on a vacation.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
He yeah, I can't make it up.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
This is this is cold, this is this is different. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
And they did talk to me too about this.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Seems like it's just a movie, Like I see you
like this is a movie. I was gonna tell you this.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Every know that happened.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I've been talking about, go tell you on our vacation
that I got married.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yes, yep. And then you know what he did.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
He left.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I had to leave the house. He gave me ten
thousand dollars in the.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Jaguar seven package severn yep.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
And I ain't had nothing. I had that I had
ten thousand dollars and I had Jaguar and I came
to Atlanta. He got all he signed on an apartment
in Atlantic Station.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
And.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I didn't want to have nothing to do with my music,
like none of that, and the money was running out,
all the type of stuff. I was so embarrassed. I
didn't want to go back home. And I see how
my son, you know what I'm saying. So what I
do Because I'm in Atlanta here, I am misfamu everything
I go. So I gotta go be a stripper. I'm

(35:31):
in Atlanta. I got all I got is this, and
I need some quick money so I can fund my
own music and do my own thing. Yeah, And I
ended up working at the strip club Flashes that was
on Roswell. I remember my first day, the girls on
drugs and everything, but that I can honestly say, even

(35:53):
through college, that was the best learning experience I ever
had in my life. And I was like everybody, it's
two girls, and they'll tell you that I helped through college,
like help them feel like college applications, ken and them
all them, I helped them feel like college application. I
did all that. I didn't know what had happened to
my life, and I wouldn't didn't want to say nothing.

(36:13):
I didn't want to go be a lawyer. I didn't.
I wanted to be a singer. I was determined. I
had bragged at home.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Where were you telling your parents?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I was telling them that I was okay and he
was still taking care of me. And I had it handled.
I had it. I didn't want to die.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
They know that he was married to.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yep, yep, but they didn't know I was no stripple.
They didn't know what to whatever. I wanted to be
left alone. I got it. I got it.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
You and your baby yep.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
My baby was with them then, So I was like,
I'm not here, I'm doing something. I got it. So
I went into one of the worst strip clubs ever,
holding the wall because I didn't want to about it to
see me.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
So you didn't go to You didn't go to Magic.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
You didn't go because I didn't want about it as
no I see. So I just remember I was like,
oh my god. And I remember that the guys would
be like, you're too smart, like what is going on?
And the managers loved me because I wouldn't gonna be prostituting.
I never on God's track. Now, I never prostituted. I
was really in there. I almost like my degree. I
would talk to the white men and about them and

(37:20):
they life. They that's I realized me and hate they
wives and hate women. That was like the thing for me.
I realized how many men hated women when I when
I went in there, I couldn't really understand why they
wanted to always get away. I always get away from them,
and I would just sit there and talk to them,
and they would pay me a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
And so you were a strip club therapist basically.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
And I would only dance to Rascal flats Man. I
danced to God, Blessed the Broken Road. I had overalls
on God. That led me straight to you. I was
up there stripping and my manager wild say, you should
take off your clothes sometimes like I was saying, it
was a performance. I was singing, and like perform up there, like.

Speaker 6 (38:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And no, they love me like oh girl.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
In pe Valley who had like a full like I
had like a people.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Like and I would make money all of that. And
I know one night Erica I had well, I had
no connects mm hmm, and I said I had made
a lot of money. It was a Friday night and
I made a lot of money. You know, people, I'm
not going back to strip club. I said, I'm not
going back to strip club. I didn't have no plans,
so no, I just said I'm going back. Erica Wright

(38:37):
called me and said that Wayne Williams. Wayne Williams thinks
that you are like a female Arkelly, and you need
to meet with Rob.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
And Wayne and so you have music floating.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, I gave her. She all had a demo that
I had already got from these men, you know, like
the demo, that type of thing. That's all I had
was a demo. So I would go and take the
money and try to go to the studio. I remember
one day Jeszy Fake came in in the studio in
the cir club and I ran off the stage just

(39:13):
like he can't see me though, because but I knew
he was jes Yeah, and I like took off like running,
and I would look for people from college because this
is ms FAM you. Yeah, Like I would look and
the like run off.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Like two years for two years? Are you put in time?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I remember the text out on the jack while going
down Roswell having to go to jail because the tags
was it inspired on you just always and some ship.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I didn't know none of I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I knew pieces of it, but the in depth mm hmmm.
When I said, you've been pushing through this is a
whole nother level.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
No, we ain't even got to the phone when I
met Zema because that was who like.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Williams, Williams and rob rob Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
So I would never meet rob Wick. It never mean me.
He was always busy. So I went up to Jive
it was Jive Records.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
At that time and where uh.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
New York.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I went up there and I ended up playing the music.
And then this guy he was so handsome, it was
myth Pits. And he walked by and he was like
you know how, It was like it's if he had
a nine on one chain. I was like, oh, I'm
from Memphis. He was like really, And so he was
doing this regular flirt. And so then the budgets was closing,

(40:48):
like in January, and Wayne Williams didn't have the budget,
but men Pitts they had gave him this big lab
did so he said no, I'm signed now, and then
Berry Wise said I don't care who sign on, just signon.
So I went with the Mephian.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
This your first deal, my first d I went with.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
The Mephian, and I remember R Kelly, you know how
me and the egos, and R Kelly was like, oh no,
I was supposed to signon. So right after I got signed,
I had to go to Patchwork and meet R. Kelly
and I never forget. I walked into Patchwork and the

(41:30):
first thing he said, are you a struggle? And I
said huh. I was like, you had me come. He
said no, but you came in here like give me
my money. What's up with my money? And I said
and I said no, because at that time, you know,

(41:52):
they be so open. Now this time it was like embarrassing.
I was hiding it and I was like, no, I'm
not no. And so I remember being so hot in
the studio that all the equipment shut down. And I
was like, it's so hot in here, and he was like, yeah,
that's the problem with y'all young artists. You spost sang
out a desperation and I said okay. Because they had

(42:15):
on the bubble coat.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
He said he had on the bubble got a bubble.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Coat on burning up an equipment shut down. He had
bubble coat, and I just we're.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Gonna create the theatrics.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, he had bubble coat, and I was like sitting
there and so I played He's like you wrote that.
I was like yeah, he was like okay, And so
then I know, I tried to leave us. I was hungry,
and then he was like what you want and he
was like, yeah, what you want? And I want to
walk the house. And then we was friends like ever since.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Then.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
It was like, I guess he never wanted me to leave,
and it was that situation. So then I had I
had myth hits but you signed yeah, but I'm signing
your his okay, okay. And but our Kelly has grown
fun you know, longa situation. You know, I'm chilling whatever.
But Memphis is my knight en sharing the armor because

(43:09):
he is fine, okay, and he from my city. He
talked my language. He talked at Memphis, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, but he's still he was still our Kelly,
but it was different language, you know what I'm saying.
So of course by then Memph Hits had all these
women issues and things like that, and then I started

(43:33):
to date myp hits like really ended up moving in
with him bare wise and then was like this is
not what he's supposed to be doing over here, Like
I'm honest, like this is not supposed to be doing
over here all the day. And then I would go
see R. Kelly and then to do this and then
Memphis would getting mad like that type of thing, and

(43:56):
then he yes, and then Memphid, I still said this,
this was my first I did. I did Dime and
Drama Boy like I did do their interview some months ago,
and we I was able to kind of really give
Mempids his you know props. You know, issues happen and
things happened, and yeah, Mempids has a real volatile streak

(44:22):
that I wasn't used to because I was I was
kind of like a favorite, like I was everybody homegirl.
Like it wasn't like don't nobody hit on me like that,
you know what I'm saying for what she cool? That
ain't that ain't what we're doing. And I just remember
he was very violent, and I know my career was
caught up and dead, and I just remember kept on

(44:44):
escalating the violence and everything kept on getting very bad,
and he was like threatening to take my career. And
then I remember that I Kelly found out about the
abuse and told him let me have a let me
sign and and then me and people was like, oh

(45:05):
my dead body, Oh my dead body, We're not doing this.
So I remember me and Dondrea.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
You remember, of course.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
He wouldn't let R Kelly signed me. Me pis let
me going out and went through abuse and dealt with
all that, and he was like, taught me online and everything.
I remember me and Dondrea went to his house in
Camp Creek and we went and pulled all the flowers
out his flower bed because I was so mad and
I wanted Kelly to sign me and I want him

(45:35):
to let me go, and you thought pull I didn't
know what to do, random actor. We were gonna turn
it up, you know, peaceful, yes, And by then he

(45:58):
was still holding me, and then hear me and then
he was cheating on me with Toya. I remember he
made me watch Toya and Tiny show and I sat
there and watched that show knowing that she was fucking
hum and she knew about me and everything.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
And this is the manhold in your career.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Holding my career in his hands. Yeah, hold of my career,
be my ad, keep my music. So I went over
there to pull all the things after flyer bed because
I Kelly said to them, just let me through the project,
just let me and whatever. So when people be trying
to make me be angry with Rob, I'd be like, well,

(46:37):
one abuser took me from another one. What you want
me to do? Like that was the only person that
really did was a person who gotta save me and
got my stuff going like would you?

Speaker 3 (46:46):
So you were able to get out of the deal
and no, I was.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Able to say leave her the fuck alone because of
this abuse and leave this girl alone. You're gonna still
get your credit, but we won't. This is our superstar here.
We want him to write this music and we want
him to do that.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
So did that end up happening?

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah? Yeah, And that's the stuff really started to look
out for me when I went and stayed with Rock.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
So how long were you working with Rod?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
A long time? I was walking Rob a long time,
and yeah, I got to just see a lot that was,
like I say, those experiences that I'll never forget. But
that was the most musical and the most I learned musically.
But I've had some of the craziest, funniest, weirdest experiences

(47:32):
of my entire career. But rob one thing, he really
did believe in me. Some reason he did, so I
was not left, you know, like trapped in closets like
I did. Get to work. I was always working and
you know, doing things like that, and I just learned
the whole world. Yeah, of different things.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
And this whole time you're on jove yep, so none
of that changes. You still change.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
None of that change. They tell him, you're gonna have
to You're gonna chill out because my budget, it was
I was the only one who had an open budget.
So even when Hugh was having the songs and all
of that, they were spending my budget on chains and
stuff like that because no one had an open budget
out of all them artists he signed up. So that

(48:19):
was a problem. I was like, I didn't get that.
I didn't even know all of this. Why is this
these budgets don't mean because I had the only open
budget out of all the men.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
His artists, but you were also paying attention to your
budget to that, well, no, I just knew.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
When they started to say I ain't I'm like, I
don't have anything. You know what I'm saying, we can't
keep on recording this, this, this that and all of that.
I started to know. And then I would start talking
to people and and I don't know if anybody know,
and she would be like, oh of like Wu tang
and all of that. And she's like Kelly's right hand.
And she started to talk to me and be like, Okay,

(48:52):
this is what's going on with you in your situation.
Let's show you. But the whole time, you know, Running
studio now Running and Rob was really doing no career.
Rob would have Running and all of that record and
me and Running to this day, that's my brother, never

(49:13):
stuff together, his kids, my little girls and all that
kind of stuff, and Running would just take the shit
for free and record me money.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
And so when do you start to kind of see
some light when it comes to like your your music
coming out and you're getting an opportunity to show.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I started to see some light. I remember I was
very I was upset with Rob, and I remember I
went in his his face, oh I'm popping out, okay,
and his face and I was like, I just said, though,
I love you and I care about you but you
keep on hurting me. And that man wrote that song
in my face. I mean, it's genius now, but I

(49:57):
was so it was so disrespectful at that. If a
wom will come you be like I can't do this,
like I'm not with this, and he.

Speaker 6 (50:04):
Say, do I love you?

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Ain't care about you? But Jogie, you heard me. I
was like, this, nigga's really singing in my face? You
really singing in my face like this everything.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
You were saying to him, he was turning into it, just.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Started singing immediately, and that was my singing. I'm like, whoa,
I feel to make some music, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I got it, and it's not age. It ain't no

(50:43):
age in country music. The older, the season, you're better
your season. You can sing a song, you get your
happy place. Yeah I did, and I'm ready. I can't
put out a country album to two months after this
last R and B album that's my country and today
is out of here. I'm doing. I'm hanging out around around.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Words go together, Jay, and you know they do, they do.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
But while we own this R and B thing, Yeah,
we still got you for two months.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
We still got you for two months.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
But she got over there, Chap and what are the
name of your restaurants?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Okay? So I saw that two weeks for COVID and
the Garden Park is still open with my partner.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
These and Memphis, of these in Atlanta, these.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Are okay, And the new one is in Brookhaven. It
is five thousand square feet. It's absolutely gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
That's open now, Garden Park. Okay, So we got to
get by there.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, I gotta get back to I had my partner
do that.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Some army money is coming by.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
You got it, I got you what you whatever, y'all
get to do?

Speaker 4 (52:03):
You tell them ycause I'm going there like I did.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
With shame Up.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
It's not that in the corner.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
No, but I know you like torquing on chicken. That's
not what I'm doing here. I can't take what.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
I don't know how they be chi.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, but it's like this thing like I don't understand
why we can't have nothing. It's why why does it
have to do? Why nobody? I don't want you to
talking over my chicken. I don't want it. You know
what I'm saying. It's certain places you go do that.
But now this restaurant is very nice, like it's it's beautiful.

(52:41):
It's about to open, and I just do a lot
of different food cuisines from different places and like different
it's creative, like you know, like I love you know titles,
so I love like doing K's bath water and all
these type of things just like me. You get to
be like so creative. So I'm excited about this about

(53:03):
to open. It's like the biggest one for me. So
it's about to open up.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Thanks, let us know when you open.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Okay, Yeah, I gotta be there. I'm definitely gonna try,
y'all crazis. I can be there. What you finking?

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Come on, mister Rogers. Are your top five?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
My top five?

Speaker 10 (53:30):
F your tip five?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Top want number one me?

Speaker 10 (53:44):
So okay we walk case carry myself.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
We want to know you leave.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
Yeah, yeah, and you can tell you.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
You got soul your time okay, T five not saying
because I'm your face. Definitely tank TIMEI think think I

(54:35):
would say Sullivan, definitely, powerhouse power. I would say three
usher like yeah, don't play with us, Like, let's not
do this, Mario. We have a show a.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Couple of weeks, yes, sir, yeah, what we have fo.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
And then I would say female female, lettsy.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Yeah, yeah, people better start playing with letters.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Yeah, let us can cook.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Five flap for the cook.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
None but the like it just feels so like love
like that, I would say top.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Five R and B song, We'll leave the segment, go ahead,
do your thing.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
I love Jenny Jackson. Let's wait a while. I don't
know why new addition. Can you see the ring?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah, but Mary J. Blash and I can't beat it
after very yeah, I love and people will not consider
this and even think about this. My favorite being save

(56:06):
record is I Miss You like every day, but it's
like one of my favorite. It was like, you know what,
but like I love that record, and I always say, oh,
like I love Mint Condition. We all like they know

(56:26):
the pretty brown eyes like them type of r vy rocks.
It's for me, like you know what I'm saying, Oh,
and I love the don't want to make a scene.
I'm like, I went to sing, but I'm like, I
just look like when I think R and B get excited. Yes, oh,

(56:47):
but we ain't gonna leave out my mentor we we
just cannot we cannot leave out seems like you're ready.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
I could.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
I'm gonna why you're not feuna play with Robert Selvester Kelly, Okay,
so I would saying them songs.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Yeah, okay, you're gonna build a Vultron. No, man, he
hasn't been in Voltron quite some time. Listen, they kicked
him out of us. They kicked him out of about
three movies.

Speaker 6 (57:29):
Ago entertainment.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
With him Transformer. We're building a Voltron Vultron is your super.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Hero R and B artist. You have to tell me
what person we're gonna build it. What person you're gonna
get the vocal from? What person You're gonna get the
performance style from what person You're gonna get the styling
from what person you are going to get the passion
from the heart of the artists. So you're building your
super artist. One person are you going to get the
vocal from? To build this artist?

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Jasmine?

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Start off strong?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (58:13):
The performance style on stage.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Oh, Michael Jackson easy, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
The styling flash flash only with child doing it.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
The whole time, and the passion of that artist, the heart.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Of the artists, Mary, that's a cold last artist, that's
a cold.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Yeahs lose No, that's it will be the greatest arts
of all times.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I like those Laura Heill.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Oh yeah, huh mis education.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Yeah, that's an artist.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
She just told you the album that they're gonna make to.
What's the title of that?

Speaker 1 (59:08):
What's the title of that artists album?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Walk around, find out, ride and found out.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Name something from me? Your titles got hit, Yeah, that's
what it got. Conversation to it?

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Yeah, what what else you got over there?

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Chief?

Speaker 2 (59:39):
So let me give you, let me give you a phrase,
and you make a.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Song, okay, Shell Cay Michelle's here, okay, here, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
So if we any any phrase, you make a song. Okay,
because let me tell you this this one story before
we do it. Every day when I live with our killing,
he would wake up and he would do a new
you know, in first place in the morning. Step in
the Name of Love will come on in the house
every day at ten o'clock over the whole house like

(01:00:11):
a speaker. So no matter, it's gonna say step in
the Name of Love. So then he make a drink
every day, and a drink would be like call sex
something sex in the city, sex on the counter, sex
on the mic, sex around the corner. And then just
like so we're gonna I'm gonna give you a phrase,
Give you a phrase, and you're gonna like tear this

(01:00:33):
ship up. Okay, so let's say sex in Atlanta. It's
like sex and alta, but just like a song. Come on,

(01:00:57):
you say to y'all. Okay, ship sex and a lama.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Mm hm m hm.

Speaker 10 (01:01:17):
Hm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
She was from a small town.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
She had never been around real stars before. She can
do the strip club for some wings and things.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
I told her about the place.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I told her that a long scene. She said, well,
we're going now, I said, to my.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Room, to room, room, to her room, to her room.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
She said she was down in order to know where
we're going.

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
Due whatever you want to, Yeah, whatever you want me
and this good sex.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
And and Lena. This niggas called this nigga is called
he had sex in and Lena.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Yeah, when I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Go, she put it down.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
But she worked from Magic City City.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
She's been around. He can't convince.

Speaker 9 (01:02:43):
Me saying no name, no name, no names, your what
you did?

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Don't say.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I ain't saying no name.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Let's play the game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Oh ship, here we go. We got Kate Michelle in
the bill.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
We do the title of all titles, Title of all titles.
So this game called I ain't saying no names? Will
you tell us a story funny or fucked up? Are
funny and fucked up? All of your stories?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Queen it? This ship? I got what.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
You that do not?

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
The only rule to the game is you can't say
no names.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I won't so right now.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Okay, this is miss Ky Michelle, okay, who always likes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
To say names. No names. You can still be real.
It's be real. I just don't say they name.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
We go, okay, no receipt, no receipt. Okay. So I
was touring and there was this one R and B
dude that was trying to mess with me, right, but
then it was this rap dude too, Okay, So I
decided in DC that I was going to use my

(01:04:17):
tour bus. I was just gonna go with the rap dude.
So we go into the Strip club stadium, his friends around.
I think they look like they the police. So you
supposed to be like a street dude. I'm like, yo,
is your dude's real police like? He's like no, no, no,
then and street. He proceeds to try to hold my
hand in the club, okay, before getting any high pocket anything.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
So why watching the strips.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
It was like it was crossing the street.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
This is so fair.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Then he go back, he get on my tour bus
and all my friends there, all his homies and all
this stuff. He got an intimacy problem. And then he
drops his pants like no foreplay. He just assumed that
I was gonna give him some. He drops his pants
and bow bow. Guess what happens. His chain is bigger

(01:05:22):
than his ditch. And I could not believe that he
was that loud and that chain. He was screaming that
loud rapping, and his chain was that big, and that's
all he had. The whole light show, but down there
that thing with like I couldn't believe what I was witnessing.
And I said, it's not you, it's me. I don't

(01:05:44):
trust rappers.

Speaker 7 (01:05:46):
Yeah, no name game, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
One of your.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah. And when I want to cad like, I'm not
the girl to be like, oh you gotta have this
big I'm not even with that. It's just the fact
that that you so like, you know, you just think
that this is so much around here, it's so little
down there. That was like a lot for me, you know,
to experience and thens like find out Santa claus like

(01:06:27):
real ships, a different type of experience.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
And you didn't proceed you because I was shocked.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
In the first place, and I didn't see them like
I didn't see them like they And then it was
a whole thing. Yeah, And then they get mad and
they tried to say it was a situation.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
It's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
I said, I said, I don't trust rappers.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Mm hmm did you did you? Then? Did you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Got me?

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Right now? I don't even know if he likes women ship.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Well, listen, let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Come on, we can come through.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Come on, Bishop k come through in a real.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Way, in a real way. And I meant it when
I said at the beginning, you are. You are a
testament to you know, to fighting for it. Thank you
to saying this is this is what I'm going to
do and however in the hell I got to get there,
I'm gonna get there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
And people can hear these stories and and people can
say what they wouldn't do or try to judge from
uh from from from their living rooms, but they will
never understand what it takes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
To chase it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Dream, to have a real purpose in life, and knowing
that nothing is going to stop me from getting to
the place. There's a destination over there, period and whatever
I have to go through to get to that, that
is just going to be par for the course mm hm.
And that's just gonna be my testimony to my greatness.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Well, you have my bag. You have my bag when
people didn't believe me. Then when I had them neked pitches,
you had my bag about the naked pitches. You're trying
to get the naked pitches down.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Like, No, y'all, My brothers and y'all have been thorough like.
Y'all have been solid in an industry where people are
not solid. Y'all have remained who y'all are. And that
is so respectful from where I'm from, so forever forever.
I got y'all forever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
And this is the Army Money podcast on all things
on R and B and Country and Country Now and
it will always be Kay Michelle, R and B Money.

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