May 14, 2025 • 50 mins
ORIGINAL EPISODE DATE MARCH 8TH, 2023
The R&B Money Podcast welcomes powerhouse actor, Michael B. Jordan as he joins Tank and J Valentine to recount his incredible journey in the entertainment industry. They will discuss the humble beginnings of his career in Brick City, the excitement of achieving his first major role with Keanu Reeves, his exceptional work ethic in memorizing over 100 pages a day for All My Children, and his remarkable performance as Wallace on The Wire. Michael will also share how his life changed, moving to LA, meeting Ryan Coogler, and portraying Oscar Grant in the acclaimed Fruitvale Station. Explore his phenomenal ascent through Black Panther and the Creed films, with the third installment marking his debut as a Director. Michael B. Jordan now on The R&B Money Podcast
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
R and BE Money. We are.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thank you take Valoti. We are the authority on all
things R and B. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
My name is Tank Valentine.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
This R and B Money podcast, it is authority all things.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
R and B. You gotta move, you can't throw.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You know what I'm saying in the building. You know,
some people are gifted, many are called, but the chosen
a few.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Come on, preach.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We've we've watched this young man grow from just smell
little Bud. Smell little Seed through the wire, through the wild. Yeah,
smell little Bud into the biggest superstar in the world.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Our friend in the building. Yeah, he hoops. Okay, this
hoop game. We're still working on this hoop game. But
he's still aod friend Max the noise, Yeah, what's.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Up man, b Dred, let's going long. Finally, this nigga
brought oranges.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
He brought oranges, cut orange? What is it? A cutie?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's one one did not bring.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I hate the rest of them on the ride over here.
He's a solo artist. Damn you understand what the team player.
He's a solo artist. It's crazy like we see Frank,
but he ain't got no que at all. Frank, Well,
Frank is all Beard. This is who didn't think he
was he he wasn't he wasn't gonna catch he said
(01:52):
he don't have a.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
He thought he wasn't gonna catch.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Mike, thank you, my brother, thank you for joining us. Man.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I know you're on a world win of a tour
and life is just been really good. It has from
the inside looking from the outside looking at and as
we've known you for so long, you deserve it.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Thank you, man, you deserve it. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You work hard, you got the gift, and you're only
getting better, which is very scary, very scary. The boy directing, now, no, no, listen, listen. Yeah,
you're gonna everything on the sab.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I mean, there's some things on the table. I didn't
even see it, so I got I gotta you know,
I'm at this part of the table. But this is
there's there's a there's a there's a lot of a
lot more table to go through.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
So let's let's do. Let's let's do kind of a
fast track. Let's do. We want to keep you long,
but we want to get to some information. Let's do
a fast track.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Let's do.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Let's start at let's start at that first phone.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
All ok, after after the magical audition and someone says,
you got the part?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Which part? Which one?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The first one was the wire? The first major road
for you.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Wasn't the first one, Harrorball was probably the.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Me uh.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Strange, You're still trying to prove he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I would say, you know, the wire, the Wire, No, sorry,
Harrorball was probably the first one that really had me travel,
you know, part of an ensemble cast, you know, per
diem you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You know, it was real. It was real, you know,
like like you know, just the.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Whole production of like making a feature film. That was
like my first kind of introduction to like the game
on that level, working with you know, Keanu Reeves and
Diane Lane, you know, just it was.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It was one of those projects. At the time.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
He was shooting The Matrix, so we didn't even know
what that was going to be, you know what I'm saying,
So he had I think he was in the process
of shooting it. We met Laurence Fishburn. He took us
out of the dinner one time, all the kids and
stuff like that. We met Laurence Fishburn and stuff like that,
so m Larry, Larry, I didn't call it Larry.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The camera no, but but but no. Then I was
the first.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That was the first kind of like, you know, okay,
I can I think I could do this is this
is cool. I'm more curious about the industry, you know,
understanding a little bit of the fundamentals of what acting is.
Before that was just kind of like just showing up,
reading the lines, you know, and trying not to you know,
fuck up. But that one was the first time I
think I'm kind of teetered into the realm of like
a character and like how to like you.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Know, act so to speak. So are you in school
at this time?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm in school, you know what I'm saying, getting like tutor,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm skipping a lot
of days of school. But at the same time, you know,
there's a there's an on set teacher that you got
to put in a certain amount of hours in that
you know, us and the rest of the kids, you know,
do a couple of hours of school and then.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And then get back to work. When does school change?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
When is it do you go back after to like
regular to regular school.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Went back to Harball regular School.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And at that point, you know, you're still on an
acting tip, you know what I mean, You're still hustling,
You're still trying to with that. I'm like, you're not
a star of school. I mean, I'm Hollywood, you know
what I'm saying. I think everybody that's trying to do
something in the entertainment industry in like middle school, high
school becomes Hollywood no matter what, like that's your nickname.
They're not really that creative outside of that. It's like
Hollywood as well. Like what it is? So like that
(05:43):
was the when like a cheer, like yay, Like nobody
understood it. I mean, how could you you know, you're
doing something that's so against the norm and where this
is Newark, Newark, Norty, so Norton, New Jersey doing that?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Uh city, Yeah, I'm sure that's tough. You're from Brick
City and you're going to do movies.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
And because it's just it's just it's not normal. It's
not how they process it. I mean, ain't for nobody
really processed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But for me, you know what I'm saying, it was
it was it was you know, leaving school early, going
to auditions, missing days of school. You know you might
see you know, a model's ad in the Sunday paper
or a toys arrest ad or you know a little
Fredo what was the the rito's uh, you know value
pack with the little like you know points on the
back of it. You would collect and buy something off
the you know, out of the book like, Yeah, I
was a little kid in that you know ship like
(06:33):
that that was doing. And then you know, then the
wire I kicked in and all my children, Yeah, and
then it was you know the story the story stories man.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, I did know that. I know something.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
You're probably watching the stories. No, my mama watched Mama
Grandmama had.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
The stories on lock. That's what it was. So like
all my children was definitely where I.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Kind of like learned like the work ethic of acting
like the actual because they locked thing. Yeah, I mean
you do like a hundred and you know episode and
a half a day, one hundred hundred plus pages a day,
you know what I'm saying. They plus Yeah, they cranking
them things daily. Tyler Perry before what I mean, soap
is a machine. I mean there is no like you know,
(07:16):
you rarely get multiple takes. So it's like if you didn't,
if you ain't study, if you ain't know your ship,
the next day it will be on air and people
will be watching you fuck up. So like you only
need one or two those are you?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
No, no, not ship. No, I'm be prepared. I'm gonna
know my ship better than anybody. So like that was
kind of like, yeah, and when and when did that?
Did you move to LA to do the Stories or
were you still I was in New York, so like,
so after I finished the soap operas, that's when I moved.
Once I wasn't going to college. I was like, I'm
not going to school. I'm gonna move to LA. I'm
(07:51):
gonna keep pursuing this thing. And so so right after
I finished my run on the Stories, I up and moved,
uh to l as You'll Scoundrels.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, right around that time for the Most fun Boy?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And what was that transition like for you coming from
Newark coming to LA And maybe the chase is different,
maybe the you know, the process is different, just now
being in Hollywood versus being in that space.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I feel like the grind was like.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I had a work ethic and developed a work ethic
from like being on the East Coast. It was just
a certain level of like grit and like just wanting
to go get it. That really kept me locked in
out here in LA and then seeing the pace l
A is a little bit different than it is a
little bit's a lot different than it is on the
East Coast. So just yeah, just the you know, just
being hungry, will want to like, you know, lock in sacrifice.
(08:47):
You know, the only thing I did was hoop and audition.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
We rarely went out, you know what I'm saying. Like, well,
besides with me and Sterling was promoting.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You hooped, What do you mean a league?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Come on, I'm listen, y'all know if y'all you know you,
if you who you know too, because I mean I
know y'all know you and I have we got championship.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Oh my lord, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know, y'all were playing a political game a lot
longer than me, so you had already knew that you
had a politic with Shane, you had to do this,
and that you got the little stacked team and play
with your friends.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I was just happy.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It was just lucky to get on the squad.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
This is the first time I heard that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, I mean you had team chemistry. Y'all played with
who y'all wanted to play with. I got, I got
my homie and then everybody else. Yeah, you got. I
got placed in your team, you had your home, you
had who's head you know how long to get in
the league.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
When you finally got it, he shot for all the
seasons you wasn't. So yeah, I scored thirty five. You
shot eighty times. You know y'all lost, right, I ain't
gonna let youall get down on one boy like that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Man. Yeah, maybe maybe fifty times.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Because I got.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I got a championship with my first team. So you're
right about the politics though, because my first team we
won and who I finally got me Jamie five.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yes, that was the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Kings, Corey Kings Spurs. Okay, we were the King I
was on the Kings going Corey Hardrick. Uh Roderick fucking Roderick?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
All right, man?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, yeah, y'all come on, I never seen with rogerck
Kenneth's career was on my team.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Uh, this the time?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
This Marcus Polk mm hmm, Charlie Burrell and Brion Oh yeah,
this team we had and then when I finally got
j in, they put him on an island and he
was taking forty.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
He was averaging thirty two. Easy. Easy thing for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Now.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
But that was that was the beginning of really all
of our relationship through the Entertainment League, you know what
I mean, where we really built our bond with each
other and everybody started to just getting get to know
each other cause they were there were people in the
league that it was just like, uh, yeah, yeah, do talented,
but I don't really fuck with him, you know what
I mean, And that's just life, and that an interesting thing.
(11:22):
I felt like the league kind of brought that concept
of how if you do make it to one of
the professional leagues, you're dealing with multiple people and multiple
personalities because what we do is very singular, like even
with you go to your trailer, like we found we
found out that. Okay, now we're in the locker room
with each other. Now we're going to E league parties.
(11:43):
Now it's like, damn, there's sanctioned things. They taken all
star teams to different cities and guys are participating that
and you start realizing, like, yo, who's a real person like,
you know, I remember when we first really got cool
and it was something it might have been an Eli
if Ben and you was like, man, just come pick
(12:03):
me up. And I'm like, all right, Ship far as
hell at the time, way out in the all right,
pick him up. And but just building those relationships and
finding people within this industry. Man shout out to Shane,
shout out, Shane put something together that really connected a
(12:24):
lot of us that we've kept going and then even
you know, me creating with Tank the R and B
money run for years and now it's like, you know,
I had.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
To like calm it down because start going viral, nigga.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'm like, take it.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Put your phone up, tied of these phone calls that
you know you were a part of.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Chris Brown and pulled up and you know, the brim
Brothers and Jammie Fox and but somewhere safe that you know,
we're not gonna get some food that just want to
hack us exactly because that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You know, because we do other stuff, because we have
something to do, is what I'm always trying to tell
Jay Valentine. I do other things, but he knows I
have shows on the weekend, yes, right, but on a
fast break. He wants to hack my wrist, he wants
to hack my fingers. These are the money making this
is hands are not.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Part of the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
When is your client.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Manage? You know what I mean? Times I quit only
imagine it doesn't matter. You wasn't getting a shout.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Out all right out of basketball place. Nobody plays better
than me, O, my lord. Did you ever feel any
downtime or or or any lag or speak of yourself
in a space where you were at a crossroad and
trying to really figure things out to get to that
next level?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Oh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I would say the summer maybe before I booked Red Tails,
I would say was probably one of the crossroads for me, Like,
all right, this is the last rent check I got.
I done, overdrafted everything I could overdraft and borrow money from.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Every aunt I could think of.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
This doesn't work out this month, I'm heading back to
Jersey and you know, we're gonna figure it out. We're
gonna you know, I don't know what I'm gonna do,
but we're gonna. We're gonna figure it out. And then
auditioned for it, booked it. That found out that Thanksgiving
that that I had got the role, and that was
like the first time that I had enough money that
I could actually stack. I was like, Okay, cool, I
could pay off everything I need to pay off. This
(14:34):
is this put a little bit something up. I can
stay out here for another six months, you know what
I'm saying, et cetera, et cetera. And then literally the
jobs just kept I kept booking from there. It was
just kind of like that kind of opened up the
floodgates for me, and then it just kind of continued
from that moment. So I would say, like when I
moved out here, you know, I was still booking like
little episodics, you know what I'm saying, guest starring roles
(14:54):
on you know CSI or Lauren Order or whatever it was.
I was cool, but I was getting to know town.
I was getting no casting directors. I was getting to know, like,
you know, the players that are in there, that are
in the the you know, the entertainment world. And also
you know, the executives and the casting directors loved the
(15:15):
shows that I was doing, so like it was the
work that I was doing that they would see that
either if they didn't like it, their wife loved it,
you know, what I'm saying, Oh my god, my husband
loves you. Oh my god, my wife loves you. Like
let's come in. So like it was like this invested
interest of like, you know, certain people in town to
kind of keep me booked and busy.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I guess a little bit. So that was that was
a that was a good run.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
But you know, I would say that when I first
moved out, it was like still booking jobs but still
dead broke. So like yeah you oh yo, that's what
was the name from the wire. But I'm like, yeah,
but I'm me and Sterling's applying at Jack in a
box right or like you know what I mean, and
like no, y'all overqualified. Like it was a moment where
it was like, yeah, we were going to fast food
spots trying to you know, apply for jobs, and it
(15:58):
was like one of those moments sitting in the car
before we went there, was like, Yo, we're about to
do this ship are we about to apply for goddamn
fast food right now? And these niggas gonna know who
I am. So it's not like, oh, it's like a
random person.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
That's a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I was willing to take the l you know what,
I'm saying and like and deal with the you look familiar?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Are you the you know what I'm saying just to
kind of like definitely was gonna get that with the
number eight.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
What he didn't even know that he could have just
called me out of the game a quarter got back and.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Speak didn't realize that, you know what I mean, I
am from the bank.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know, hey, man.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Wallace, I know I know you man Nah Noah, you
know the time take your food to keep it questioning.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
The fast food. I listen.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I remember being in Rancho Cucamongay after the money when
the money was low and I was I had a
I had a rented Lincoln town car that I was
hiding from the rental company. Okay, this story, Okay, yeah
it took off because I had you know, they had
a two bedroom. It was only like thirteen hundred, Okay,
(17:23):
So I took off the Rancho got in there.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You picked me up around that area.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
We were deep and I'm looking at this best Buy
like I could pack boxes here, I could I could
stack some box.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Because if you go do the like the old and
I were trying to figure it out though, but hanging
out with right and it looking like.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Everything was together them at the party and I'm right
next to him and they almost was rubbing. It's like,
oh okay, they doing And then I drive that the
town car back to back to ranch. You know what
I'm saying that Rubber really messed the road and trying
to figure out what that next movie is the.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Entertainment business and the nutshell because it's it's about staying
the course. It's about staying out here wherever that is
that that's that you're close to the work, that will
one day you'll wake up and you'll get that phone
call that it changes for you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Like I remember having a conversation with.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You and you're like, I gotta go to the bay.
I was like, you're going to the bay, and he
was like, it's a movie out there. It's like it's
an indie movie.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
And the crazy thing is, you know, our relationship and
my relationship with with our fellow brother Tristan Wilds. He
also was supposed to be part of that movie and
got sick when he was doing nine two one oh
And I remember you called me and you were like, bro,
this this movie is is special. And at first you
(18:57):
didn't tell me what it's about, just like you know.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And then I never forget this. You said you should
come up here.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I was like why.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
He was like, no, Ni, because you're from the Bay.
I'm telling you you could just play one of the parts.
And I was like, dang, I'm not an actor.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I knew you set me up though. I was.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
He's big, but I can say bruh two or three
times in the movie and I'm like, nah, I'm cool.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I mean, you told you.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
He was like, he finally told me what the movie's
about with mister Grant, and I was like, oh shit,
I knew about the whole thing. I was like, this
is about to this is about to be different, This
is going to be different. And the crazy thing is
my cousin at the time was going to college or before,
but before that with Ryan, your cousin was the number
one linebacker in the nation at the time. He go
(19:48):
to see him and Ryan both from Oakland. They link
and he already telling me about him. And then you like,
hey man, this young director out the Bay. He got
this great idea and what you did with that movie
it represented us so well with you not being from
the Bay, like just not aside from us all being
(20:08):
black man, but just the Bay Area we.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Have a very.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Like it's cold.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
It's a particular island that we live on out there
right that it's just so different from the rest of
the West Coast. But the rest of the world. We
got our own language, we got our the way we dress.
It's just we live in our own world. Tank of
tell you go up there, he be like, I enjoyed myself,
but it is different. So to capture that and the
way you captured it, bro, I don't even know if
(20:37):
I've ever even told you over all these years, like
you really made me proud of just a friend because
I didn't see my friend anymore. And that's a huge part,
you know that with actings, I did not see Mike,
you know what I mean, Like I saw you playing
Oscar and I'm like, he did this such a great service.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
So thank you from us from the criby.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No thanks all, mom, and just be able to like
embody that that character and that you know that moment
in time. You know me, I was real pissed off
around that time just in general, just like it was
a lot you know, shooting's going on trade by Martin
just got shot.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
It was a lot, a lot, a lot of shit.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Going on in the world, and like that was an
outlet for me to kind of express myself the way
I could, which is through the work.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
You know what I'm saying, and then you know, and
say something. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So so, you know, meeting Ryan and you know, going
through all the steps, so moving up there and living
and staying you know, you know, just you know, in
close proximity to you know, Oscar, his friends and family,
you know, people that you know. I had to get
to know him through the people that knew him the best.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And that was my first time really doing like a
like a real deep dive like that, you know, as
far as doing like a real the real homework, you
know what I'm saying and like and so so for me,
it was doing a bunch of things. I got a
chance to say something, I got a chance to prove
that could carry a film, you know. But then also
I represent you know, so many other you know, Trayvon
Martins and Oscar Grants throughout the world. You know what
(22:02):
I'm saying that that don't get their stories told. You
know what I'm saying that doesn't get an opportunity to
you know, to to get justice, you know what I'm saying.
So so yeah, that movie meant a lot to check
a lot of boxes for me.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I want to get to the where you going, you know,
I want to get to the I want to get
to the block question that's happening right now. But I
just want to ask you one question before we get
to the you know, to the series of amazing, amazing
body of work that you've got.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Because we see, like we've we've been in Hollywood for
quite some time, and we kind of understand the the
overtones and then the undertones of how this thing kind
of moves and shakes and and the question I wanted
to ask you was like, why do you think it's you?
(22:50):
Out of all the people you've come up with, and
out of all the people you know, you've worked with,
that you know put in the work and who are
talented and you are amazed only talented, amazing work ethic,
what is the special quality about Michael B. Jordan that
sets him apart from everybody else? I mean, that's tough
(23:16):
only because.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
We'remen of faith and understanding you know that it's above us,
you know what I'm saying, Like our blessings, we're blessed,
you know what I'm saying, and highly favored, you know,
so we know spirituality, God has a lot to do
with us and success and the blessings that we have,
and just and just the avoidance of bullshit. You know
(23:39):
what I'm saying that could knock us off our path,
because that's equally as important. You know, I'm talking about
family prayer circles, people that we're shielded.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
So there's that that that goes there.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I mean, I was a little bit with this movie
was about for me, you know, trying to figure out
like you know, having that conversation, you know, kind of
exercising my way through you know, why me, you know,
and I think part of it is chosen, you know,
for certain things. And then also my ability I think
(24:11):
maybe I don't know process information, think, put things together,
you know, build ship, you know, I my gut, my intuition.
You know, I listen to that ship all the time,
you know, being able to read people, you know, hear
the hear the note behind the note. You know, what
is what is what is the real intent behind things?
(24:33):
You know, being able to kind of like dissect that
all the time, which is a lot, but at the
same time, it's my norm, you know what I mean,
So you know, And then I said the work ethic.
You know, it's a combination. It's a bunch of different things.
I don't think it's like the one thing that makes
(24:54):
it makes it different. I think it's just a combination
of just particular point of views and approaches and disciplines
that that equal.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
You know, the ability to like, you know, do what
I do.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know, that's the I want to accept all of
that right because all of that is very much true.
I feel like you're you're part of a bigger universal message.
It's empathy, bro.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I think it's empathy being able to, like I feel,
I'm an EmPATH, you know what I'm saying. But once
you feel and you understand what it is, you can
get people what they need.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Well, that too, all of that, you are proof that
good people win.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
That being a good person being an amazing human being.
Because there's always this quote of good guys always finished last.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I agree, And you are giving good people an example,
an example. You can do it the right way. You
cannot be part of that and part of that and
these other things. You can do it the right way.
You can be raised right, you can talk right, you
can act right, you can walk right, you can do
(26:17):
your best.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I met your mom and daddy.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
You from good stock, bro, like you come from good things.
And what he's saying is absolutely right. You're an example
of that, bro, And we're here to tell you that.
Look all the rest of this shit. You have been
consistently you from the day I met you, and I
had no idea you was going and looking at at
(26:45):
Jack in the box application because that didn't matter to me.
I was like, that's the homie. I never get caught
up in none of that. My friends and my friends,
but now we all know what this life has done
for you in the position that put you in, and
you are the same exact person. Appreciate that you are
the same exact person. If like, listen at the at
(27:07):
the premiere, if we catch eyes, it's expected.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't care who in.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
This million nigga, we're gonna say what so we gonna hug,
We're gonna tell each other we love each other. Man,
Thank you thank you and congratulations. And this is what
it's supposed to be when it's a real brotherhood. This
ain't about nothing else, and we got to stop telling
people that it's about Oh.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
He ain't checked in with me, he ain't called me.
And I man, we got lives and we're busy moving.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
But when we when we catch you, we catch these
eyes and I see my brother left take where we
left off.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Bro, So you know toast to you for that.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I appreciate in a real way.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
I was trying to figure out if he was trying
to ask why you wasn't kill Mangert, and he was,
that's that's I thought you was going there, but you.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Didn't go there.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
You didn't go there. No exact No, we're curious. You
want to kill money.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No, he killed kill, I can't be killed. He went crazy,
he rocked.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I just made him think.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Maybe like the homie kill monks home, let's get let's
let's get to the ship man, let's get the creed man,
let's do it. Bro In in the one, I said, okay,
he's coming. M In the two, you sit in that
(28:37):
hospital bed. You shook me up. I said, he's here.
In three, I said he's out of control.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
And you cheated.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
The little girl is a cheating.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Of control.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
It's a cheat coat.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I said, oh, out of your mind, you're out of
control and he must be stupid.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Stop I'm sitting I heard that. What you're doing, I'm
in there doing this. Look that's how I said. Whatever, Bro,
I watched, I watched. I watched Cree three, and I
was so proud of you so many levels. I watched
(29:27):
that entire movie with a smile on my favor even
when I was emotional, I still had a smile on
my FLM like it was. It was. And I'm sitting
next to Kevin Gates And when I say enjoying himself,
(29:54):
I'm talking. See that's where it goes right there. That's
a souldier you feel me. You don't understand what's going on?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Right, So you all were engaged the whole time? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
When I say, at the time of its life.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Great movie.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
It was, Bro, it was, it was, it was amazing,
and it was more growth. Yeah, you're the director, it's crazy,
you're the star. Give me give me the process real
quick of you learning sign language?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Oh so like I was learning sign language while I
was working out in pre production too, so like one
of the thing, Me and Beyonca. Once I got the
Me and Testa, when I got the new script, I
was like, man, we should have just kept up with
it from Creed too.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
We would have been way more fluent right now.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
We would have been great, you know what I'm saying,
But but we we put ourselves on a fast track
to kind of like learn it, uh while while I
was working out. So like while I was working out,
I would work out, you know, have production meetings, script meetings,
you know what I'm saying. Whatever, we're building the thing,
but then I'll just go off to the side for
a little bit to do an hour a day, you
know what I'm saying with with my coach, and we
(31:03):
would uh you know, go through the basics, you know
what I'm saying. He would kind of like, you know,
he would sign, I would you know, you know, mimic
the sign, and then he'll test me on those like
four or five signs, you know what I mean, every
like fifteen minutes or so, and then we would like,
you know, recap that entire hour, and I would try
to go off memory and do that, and then the
next day they'll recap half of what we did the
day before, et cetera, et cetera, and kind of just
(31:25):
stare step me to until I didn't have any more time.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Laugh.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
But honestly, on the day, I'm a real visual person,
a visual learning so I could I could. I could
pick up on signs pretty quickly and then register it,
digest it, and then and then go go do what
I gotta do.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
That was that was a very special part of the movie.
Thank you and very and it was like it was
it was we put we we.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It was a natural evolution of things. Of course movie
you know, Donna's meets the love of his life. You
know what I'm saying as progressive hearing loss. You know,
we don't know where that's going. Cool second film we
pick up he's starting the family of his own.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Now, you know, you realize that the daughter cann or
can't she? You know, his parents are no more concerned.
You know, a healthy baby, you know what I'm saying.
Cant he get passed down?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Does she have it or not?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
The heartbreak of you know within you know, internally between
the Donnass Okay, damn, now what how am I going
to move forward with this? Questions around that? And it
was played beautifully by you know, Rocky and a Donnas.
You know what I'm saying, really trying to figure out
like what manhood is and like what Parento's all about?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You know, cool, we got that the third film. I
don't have to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
We're already a fully al family. You know, the house
is already tricked out, and Donnas has clearly invested time
to make sure and money to make sure his daughter
is going to get all the things that he never got,
you know what I'm saying, and really trying to like,
you know, make her life a lot better and comfortable,
et cetera, et cetera, and building all the things and
blah blah blah blah whatever. So in this movie, it
was really important, like to just normalize in the way.
(33:00):
You know, it really felt inclusive, and it wasn't about
the audience or anybody having.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Sympathy for her.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's like, no, it's the empathy you know, of understanding,
you know what what she needs.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
She'sa Mila Davis, Mila superstar, superstar, superstar.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, and so talented and I learned so much from her,
so just and then she encouraged me, like, look like,
even if you don't know exactly the sign gesture, your
body language is signing you know what I'm saying. And
the deaf community appreciates that so much by not just
talking to them or like getting frustrated no gesture, like try,
like and that's something for us that you know, the hearing.
(33:41):
We're definitely you know, you know, we're ignorant in a
lot of ways. But but but and and but just
getting out of your own get it out of our
own head and being like, oh I can't do this,
I'm gona feel supid. No, just try and I think
it'll make a big difference.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
My last piece, I mean, listen and amazing. Let me
tell you something. Listen, what's up? Because I act a
little bit like if you're a TV one and and
like Lifetime, I'm like Michael b O Okay, Michael G.
(34:20):
I'm like Michael G, Michael G four, Michael T. Anyway,
you guys were having so many conversations outside of the script,
like just within the physicality of how you guys were
(34:44):
dealing with each other, from eye contact to no eye
contact when I say it was crazy, it was like
y'all had done movies before, like you guys had been
synced before, and other moments to build because the build
up that of chemistry is really crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And it's rare.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
It's rare, rare and not undercurrent that y'all were carrying
along with what was being said in the environment.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
It was incredible, Thank you man.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
No, he's he's a special talent, you know what I mean.
He's a kindred spirit too, you know what I'm saying.
He immediately he would feel like one of us, like
like a brother for sure.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
And and he he's so he has so much depth
to him.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And complexities that just played perfectly you know in the
film that we needed from our antagonist, you know what
I'm saying, to to to counter the counterbalance are equally
as complex and the depth of Adonis, you know, of
our hero so so so he played that perfectly. He
was a workhorse. He you know, he was willing to
(35:50):
get in this shape. He was sacrificed, you know what
I'm saying. You know, you know, just time just to
really put it in and take this ship seriously, learning
the choreography, learning a certain style you know and bodying,
you know, Damien as a character, you know what I'm
saying coming from Crenshaw, just being like just an l
A l A story and and it and it worked, man,
it really worked. And then the box and stuff just
really like fell into place. And that was something that
(36:14):
I probably daydreamed the most about from like just over
the course of the entire trilogy, just like how would
I do the fights if I ever had an opportunity
to do them? And like that was something that I
really like, said, we just gonna swing for the fans.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
So why is he here?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
So why is he here?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I mean, this is R and B, this R and
B Park podcast. What was Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, so did you drink your tea?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Oh yeah, I'm here to Uh no, Lord wanted to
keep me humble.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
We are going with the cheat O.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Don't the way he's go down.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
You gonna understand where you're going.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It was a little bit like it was a little
cheers in that A little bit. I heard cheers a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
It's a lot of bar action.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
It's okay, bar action.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Drop five.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, don't look at your top five Michael t looking
at you, Michael and.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Your top five Olive Bees.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, all this best song, my gold my gold Bees
talk five talk.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Talk yank tank yank tang tang.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yay.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Clearly the top right now, Michael, five.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
People, Michael B. Jordan's your top five R and B singers.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I'm going m hmm, Marvin Gay, m hm gontag Marvin Gay.
I'm going Russian. There is no particular order Russian. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm going. So if he's the king of pop, is
(38:44):
that considered for.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Michael with Jackson.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Beyonce? Oh man, this is tough.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Luther end it all right? And that thing all right? Yeah,
yeah yeah, Lufa lufer.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I don't mention Thank's going in there.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Got it. I don't mention Thank's going in there.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
You're six man.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I got I gotta you know, Jordan, I don't mind
coming off the bench that starting.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
We got we got one more than one more.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Thank you won't let you out.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
The dog.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
H You've been associated with a lot of great people,
uh huh, but in this segment, you better not. I
ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no name. I
ain't saying no names. You don't say. I ain't saying no.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I love y'all. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I tell you want to get here. I got this again.
We just.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
Standing invitation. Listen right now. You give us a story
funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? The
only rule to the game is you can't say no names.
Michael b Wakanda, Creed Wire, Fruit Fruit Bill Station, Jordan's.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Whoa.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Man. I got stories.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Now, I gotta figure out.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
How to tell these stories without no names.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Okay, let me see what I got for y'all. It
was Frank. I'm trying to think. What's the going.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
In my mind? Goes ship, y'all. Okay, this listen.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Uh you know, I'm no disruptive.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I'm gonna think of something good, so so so let
me let me, let me ponder. Come on, I would
rather y'all give me like a city.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
And then let me and then let me Miami.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, it's getting warm.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
So I'm down in Miami.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Hm. You know, I usually stay at a particular hotel
and I'm promoting the film, so I'm money down there
for a little bit of time. You know, you hit
you know, certain outlets. You know what I'm saying. You know,
just television, Telemundo.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
You know what I'm saying. You know, you bounce around,
you do your press or whatever, and.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
You go back to the hotel and then that's when
you do the rest of the press.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
You know what I'm saying. Press junkis cool.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
So I had my dad press.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I didn't eat that much that day because I woke
up it was a little late. You know what I'm saying, uh,
from the night before, which is is we're in Miami,
so there's not a lot of sleep going.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
You know, liquid ivs are helpful. Coconut water's top top
tier rehydration. So next day, don't eat that much. Don't
eat that much. A couple of other coat stars don't
eat it as much as either, So nobody's really eating
a lot. A lot of tea chunk, keep the voice together,
(43:16):
talking a lot. So we leave the hotel when we
go to uh, we go to dinner at this point,
you know, order advertiser said, but you know, we're really drinking.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
We're really we're drinking a lot, you know, alcohols flowing.
So it's a lot of drinks, not a lot of food.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I repeat, we we didn't eat a lot the last
couple of days. So uh, we proceed to have a
good time. A little little nibble here, a little this
little that, you know what I'm saying, tasting a little bit.
They ain't eat a full milk? Cool? Great, Right this time,
I'm a little lit. A couple of other people that I'm.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
With, they lit to.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
A little bit more more like the I am. I'm
usually the guy that, like you can't tell, is like
really drunk, but I'm nice. I'm there, I'm all the
way there. It looks like the lights are on. Ain't
nobody home?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Right? Right?
Speaker 4 (44:12):
All right?
Speaker 1 (44:13):
A couple other people a little bit more visibly messed up.
So in my mind, I'm like, okay, cool, let me
let me, let me, let me help these people get
to where you know where we're going, you know what
I'm saying, safely.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
So I'm in the middle of, like, you know, trying
to you know.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Help people get to where they got to go, et cetera,
et cetera. Run across some ladies. All right, this is Miami.
You know what I'm saying. We're outside, you know what
I'm saying, the venue in which we're getting ready to
go into, and some ladies that are there, they might
have recognized maybe a couple of us or whatever the
case may be. All Right, they wanted to roll in
and we all rolling all access. So we're in this
(44:48):
particular spot. More drinks are coming, a certain group of
ladies are there. One of the people that there starts
to look so good.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
They they you know, they stumbling a little bit, you know, balanced,
a little off.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
All right, Cool.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I'm like, hey, yo, I think it might be good.
You probably should go back, you know what I'm saying,
to to where we came from. You know what I'm saying,
where we reside at. You know what I'm saying. I
think it's I think it's I think it's done. You know,
we gotta get up in the morning. We got to leave,
and this is it. We did it. We did it, guys.
We had a great time.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
It was a great time.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Cool. So he didn't want to go. So he didn't
want to leave, So he proceeded to to grab the
bottle from a lady that was with us, and he
grabbed it like so like he grabbed the bottle with
like such force that he cracked his own like face
(45:47):
with it, right bah, and he just.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Kind of like kept drinking.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
I saw it vividly, so I was like, oh shit,
I was like, oh man, like that that was like
that was like it was you know, it was a
big bottle. Feel me like that with that that that's
that's hurtful. That that's not that doesn't feel good. But
he kept drinking like it was nothing. So everything was cool, great.
So we had the rest of the night. I had
a good time.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
Blah blah.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Get back in the car, cool, get back to the hotel.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
Cool. Stepping over a lot of things, but that's not
important to the store. Got it? Next morning?
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Wake up?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
My phone is like, what is going on? Hey? What's up?
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Time?
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Ship, what happened to you?
Speaker 4 (46:34):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (46:36):
No, Mike, tell me what happened?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I don't know?
Speaker 4 (46:38):
You're good?
Speaker 1 (46:39):
What's going What's what's going on?
Speaker 3 (46:41):
You?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yo?
Speaker 6 (46:42):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Like I don't know, I don't I don't know how to.
I don't know how to. You know, if he was
calling the person that was supposed to calm him down
and like like it wasn't that I wasn't. I wasn't
the one. I'm fresh fresh, I'm fresh off. You need it,
you gotta go call somebody. And I don't know if
you can get on the plane like that. I don't
know if they're gonna let you want a plane like that,
(47:05):
So you might need emergency dentists, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Some stitches, you feel me. It was the it was
the whole situation, and that was. It was a night
Miami names.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I did a good job. A couple of times I
almost sucked up. I did a good job, a good job.
More of the story is, don't drink with Michael B.
Jordan's without eating.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Without eating.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, because you want to try to match my ship,
don't don't match my ship.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
If you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You're looking to be consoleed, console or comfort, don't don't, don't, don't,
don't talk.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
I'm gonna tell you real, you're not you bust your ship.
You but your ship, you your ship.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
It's it was it was yeah, it was mm hmm. Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I have been any knights in Miami of those kinds
that I don't really remember, you know, just just thank
the Lord. I woke up in the hotel I checked in.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
I mean, I don't live like that.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
What anymore?
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Ever?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
What you mean?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
I don't live like that?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
I always know where I'm gonna wake.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Up at city ever, Okay, you you know me a
long time.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
You ain't never seen me get ain't nobody had to.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
You hold your ship very well?
Speaker 4 (48:24):
Tu tho, No, no, no, no, no, he doesn't. He doesn't.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
He don't do what we're talking about. But he gets
extremely violent, he gotcha. Yeah, depends on what he's drinking.
You know.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Okay, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Nice guy.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
People there, well hand yeah, these niggas, and then it
just goes from there. It goes from there. It goes
from us having a.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Great time to him telling Steph Curry all right, telling
that niggas st Curry took a picture with us if
he want to.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Be safe out here? I said, why do I have to?
Why do I have to if you want to be safe,
why does it have to be the message for what
do I What do I gotta tell?
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Stuff?
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Took the picture of.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
The pictures of my face, shout ste crazy.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
That's not how I related. You take a picture of
his brother, but might be my brother. Man, you're awesome. Brother. Yeah,
and that's just not that's just not you know, friends talking.
That's that's you know, I'm gonna pull myself outside of
that outside looking at it.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Amazing brother, Man, thank you've done amazing work. Your legs
clean man, and keep.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
It that way.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Brother, you represent well my god. Ladies and gentlemen, My
name is Tank. This is the Army Money Podcast. And
uh you say that cool? And uh what else can
I say?
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Man? Greatness in the building. V. Michael being.
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thank you take Valoti. We are the authority on all
things R and B. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
My name is Tank Valentine.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
This R and B Money podcast, it is authority all things.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
R and B. You gotta move, you can't throw.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You know what I'm saying in the building. You know,
some people are gifted, many are called, but the chosen
a few.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Come on, preach.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We've we've watched this young man grow from just smell
little Bud. Smell little Seed through the wire, through the wild. Yeah,
smell little Bud into the biggest superstar in the world.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Our friend in the building. Yeah, he hoops. Okay, this
hoop game. We're still working on this hoop game. But
he's still aod friend Max the noise, Yeah, what's.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Up man, b Dred, let's going long. Finally, this nigga
brought oranges.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
He brought oranges, cut orange? What is it? A cutie?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's one one did not bring.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I hate the rest of them on the ride over here.
He's a solo artist. Damn you understand what the team player.
He's a solo artist. It's crazy like we see Frank,
but he ain't got no que at all. Frank, Well,
Frank is all Beard. This is who didn't think he
was he he wasn't he wasn't gonna catch he said
(01:52):
he don't have a.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
He thought he wasn't gonna catch.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Mike, thank you, my brother, thank you for joining us. Man.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I know you're on a world win of a tour
and life is just been really good. It has from
the inside looking from the outside looking at and as
we've known you for so long, you deserve it.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Thank you, man, you deserve it. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You work hard, you got the gift, and you're only
getting better, which is very scary, very scary. The boy directing, now, no, no, listen, listen. Yeah,
you're gonna everything on the sab.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I mean, there's some things on the table. I didn't
even see it, so I got I gotta you know,
I'm at this part of the table. But this is
there's there's a there's a there's a lot of a
lot more table to go through.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
So let's let's do. Let's let's do kind of a
fast track. Let's do. We want to keep you long,
but we want to get to some information. Let's do
a fast track.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Let's do.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Let's start at let's start at that first phone.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
All ok, after after the magical audition and someone says,
you got the part?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Which part? Which one?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The first one was the wire? The first major road
for you.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Wasn't the first one, Harrorball was probably the.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Me uh.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Strange, You're still trying to prove he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I would say, you know, the wire, the Wire, No, sorry,
Harrorball was probably the first one that really had me travel,
you know, part of an ensemble cast, you know, per
diem you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You know, it was real. It was real, you know,
like like you know, just the.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Whole production of like making a feature film. That was
like my first kind of introduction to like the game
on that level, working with you know, Keanu Reeves and
Diane Lane, you know, just it was.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It was one of those projects. At the time.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
He was shooting The Matrix, so we didn't even know
what that was going to be, you know what I'm saying,
So he had I think he was in the process
of shooting it. We met Laurence Fishburn. He took us
out of the dinner one time, all the kids and
stuff like that. We met Laurence Fishburn and stuff like that,
so m Larry, Larry, I didn't call it Larry.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The camera no, but but but no. Then I was
the first.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That was the first kind of like, you know, okay,
I can I think I could do this is this
is cool. I'm more curious about the industry, you know,
understanding a little bit of the fundamentals of what acting is.
Before that was just kind of like just showing up,
reading the lines, you know, and trying not to you know,
fuck up. But that one was the first time I
think I'm kind of teetered into the realm of like
a character and like how to like you.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Know, act so to speak. So are you in school
at this time?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I'm in school, you know what I'm saying, getting like tutor,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm skipping a lot
of days of school. But at the same time, you know,
there's a there's an on set teacher that you got
to put in a certain amount of hours in that
you know, us and the rest of the kids, you know,
do a couple of hours of school and then.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
And then get back to work. When does school change?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
When is it do you go back after to like
regular to regular school.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Went back to Harball regular School.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And at that point, you know, you're still on an
acting tip, you know what I mean, You're still hustling,
You're still trying to with that. I'm like, you're not
a star of school. I mean, I'm Hollywood, you know
what I'm saying. I think everybody that's trying to do
something in the entertainment industry in like middle school, high
school becomes Hollywood no matter what, like that's your nickname.
They're not really that creative outside of that. It's like
Hollywood as well. Like what it is? So like that
(05:43):
was the when like a cheer, like yay, Like nobody
understood it. I mean, how could you you know, you're
doing something that's so against the norm and where this
is Newark, Newark, Norty, so Norton, New Jersey doing that?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Uh city, Yeah, I'm sure that's tough. You're from Brick
City and you're going to do movies.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
And because it's just it's just it's not normal. It's
not how they process it. I mean, ain't for nobody
really processed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But for me, you know what I'm saying, it was
it was it was you know, leaving school early, going
to auditions, missing days of school. You know you might
see you know, a model's ad in the Sunday paper
or a toys arrest ad or you know a little
Fredo what was the the rito's uh, you know value
pack with the little like you know points on the
back of it. You would collect and buy something off
the you know, out of the book like, Yeah, I
was a little kid in that you know ship like
(06:33):
that that was doing. And then you know, then the
wire I kicked in and all my children, Yeah, and
then it was you know the story the story stories man.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, I did know that. I know something.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
You're probably watching the stories. No, my mama watched Mama
Grandmama had.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
The stories on lock. That's what it was. So like
all my children was definitely where I.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Kind of like learned like the work ethic of acting
like the actual because they locked thing. Yeah, I mean
you do like a hundred and you know episode and
a half a day, one hundred hundred plus pages a day,
you know what I'm saying. They plus Yeah, they cranking
them things daily. Tyler Perry before what I mean, soap
is a machine. I mean there is no like you know,
(07:16):
you rarely get multiple takes. So it's like if you didn't,
if you ain't study, if you ain't know your ship,
the next day it will be on air and people
will be watching you fuck up. So like you only
need one or two those are you?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
No, no, not ship. No, I'm be prepared. I'm gonna
know my ship better than anybody. So like that was
kind of like, yeah, and when and when did that?
Did you move to LA to do the Stories or
were you still I was in New York, so like,
so after I finished the soap operas, that's when I moved.
Once I wasn't going to college. I was like, I'm
not going to school. I'm gonna move to LA. I'm
(07:51):
gonna keep pursuing this thing. And so so right after
I finished my run on the Stories, I up and moved,
uh to l as You'll Scoundrels.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, right around that time for the Most fun Boy?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And what was that transition like for you coming from
Newark coming to LA And maybe the chase is different,
maybe the you know, the process is different, just now
being in Hollywood versus being in that space.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I feel like the grind was like.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I had a work ethic and developed a work ethic
from like being on the East Coast. It was just
a certain level of like grit and like just wanting
to go get it. That really kept me locked in
out here in LA and then seeing the pace l
A is a little bit different than it is a
little bit's a lot different than it is on the
East Coast. So just yeah, just the you know, just
being hungry, will want to like, you know, lock in sacrifice.
(08:47):
You know, the only thing I did was hoop and audition.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
We rarely went out, you know what I'm saying. Like, well,
besides with me and Sterling was promoting.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You hooped, What do you mean a league?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Come on, I'm listen, y'all know if y'all you know you,
if you who you know too, because I mean I
know y'all know you and I have we got championship.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Oh my lord, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You know, y'all were playing a political game a lot
longer than me, so you had already knew that you
had a politic with Shane, you had to do this,
and that you got the little stacked team and play
with your friends.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I was just happy.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It was just lucky to get on the squad.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
This is the first time I heard that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, I mean you had team chemistry. Y'all played with
who y'all wanted to play with. I got, I got
my homie and then everybody else. Yeah, you got. I
got placed in your team, you had your home, you
had who's head you know how long to get in
the league.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
When you finally got it, he shot for all the
seasons you wasn't. So yeah, I scored thirty five. You
shot eighty times. You know y'all lost, right, I ain't
gonna let youall get down on one boy like that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Man. Yeah, maybe maybe fifty times.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Because I got.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I got a championship with my first team. So you're
right about the politics though, because my first team we
won and who I finally got me Jamie five.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yes, that was the.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Kings, Corey Kings Spurs. Okay, we were the King I
was on the Kings going Corey Hardrick. Uh Roderick fucking Roderick?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
All right, man?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, yeah, y'all come on, I never seen with rogerck
Kenneth's career was on my team.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Uh, this the time?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
This Marcus Polk mm hmm, Charlie Burrell and Brion Oh yeah,
this team we had and then when I finally got
j in, they put him on an island and he
was taking forty.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
He was averaging thirty two. Easy. Easy thing for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Now.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
But that was that was the beginning of really all
of our relationship through the Entertainment League, you know what
I mean, where we really built our bond with each
other and everybody started to just getting get to know
each other cause they were there were people in the
league that it was just like, uh, yeah, yeah, do talented,
but I don't really fuck with him, you know what
I mean, And that's just life, and that an interesting thing.
(11:22):
I felt like the league kind of brought that concept
of how if you do make it to one of
the professional leagues, you're dealing with multiple people and multiple
personalities because what we do is very singular, like even
with you go to your trailer, like we found we
found out that. Okay, now we're in the locker room
with each other. Now we're going to E league parties.
(11:43):
Now it's like, damn, there's sanctioned things. They taken all
star teams to different cities and guys are participating that
and you start realizing, like, yo, who's a real person like,
you know, I remember when we first really got cool
and it was something it might have been an Eli
if Ben and you was like, man, just come pick
(12:03):
me up. And I'm like, all right, Ship far as
hell at the time, way out in the all right,
pick him up. And but just building those relationships and
finding people within this industry. Man shout out to Shane,
shout out, Shane put something together that really connected a
(12:24):
lot of us that we've kept going and then even
you know, me creating with Tank the R and B
money run for years and now it's like, you know,
I had.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
To like calm it down because start going viral, nigga.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'm like, take it.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Put your phone up, tied of these phone calls that
you know you were a part of.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Chris Brown and pulled up and you know, the brim
Brothers and Jammie Fox and but somewhere safe that you know,
we're not gonna get some food that just want to
hack us exactly because that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
You know, because we do other stuff, because we have
something to do, is what I'm always trying to tell
Jay Valentine. I do other things, but he knows I
have shows on the weekend, yes, right, but on a
fast break. He wants to hack my wrist, he wants
to hack my fingers. These are the money making this
is hands are not.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Part of the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
When is your client.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Manage? You know what I mean? Times I quit only
imagine it doesn't matter. You wasn't getting a shout.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Out all right out of basketball place. Nobody plays better
than me, O, my lord. Did you ever feel any
downtime or or or any lag or speak of yourself
in a space where you were at a crossroad and
trying to really figure things out to get to that
next level?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Oh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I would say the summer maybe before I booked Red Tails,
I would say was probably one of the crossroads for me, Like,
all right, this is the last rent check I got.
I done, overdrafted everything I could overdraft and borrow money from.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Every aunt I could think of.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
This doesn't work out this month, I'm heading back to
Jersey and you know, we're gonna figure it out. We're
gonna you know, I don't know what I'm gonna do,
but we're gonna. We're gonna figure it out. And then
auditioned for it, booked it. That found out that Thanksgiving
that that I had got the role, and that was
like the first time that I had enough money that
I could actually stack. I was like, Okay, cool, I
could pay off everything I need to pay off. This
(14:34):
is this put a little bit something up. I can
stay out here for another six months, you know what
I'm saying, et cetera, et cetera. And then literally the
jobs just kept I kept booking from there. It was
just kind of like that kind of opened up the
floodgates for me, and then it just kind of continued
from that moment. So I would say, like when I
moved out here, you know, I was still booking like
little episodics, you know what I'm saying, guest starring roles
(14:54):
on you know CSI or Lauren Order or whatever it was.
I was cool, but I was getting to know town.
I was getting no casting directors. I was getting to know, like,
you know, the players that are in there, that are
in the the you know, the entertainment world. And also
you know, the executives and the casting directors loved the
(15:15):
shows that I was doing, so like it was the
work that I was doing that they would see that
either if they didn't like it, their wife loved it,
you know, what I'm saying, Oh my god, my husband
loves you. Oh my god, my wife loves you. Like
let's come in. So like it was like this invested
interest of like, you know, certain people in town to
kind of keep me booked and busy.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I guess a little bit. So that was that was
a that was a good run.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
But you know, I would say that when I first
moved out, it was like still booking jobs but still
dead broke. So like yeah you oh yo, that's what
was the name from the wire. But I'm like, yeah,
but I'm me and Sterling's applying at Jack in a
box right or like you know what I mean, and
like no, y'all overqualified. Like it was a moment where
it was like, yeah, we were going to fast food
spots trying to you know, apply for jobs, and it
(15:58):
was like one of those moments sitting in the car
before we went there, was like, Yo, we're about to
do this ship are we about to apply for goddamn
fast food right now? And these niggas gonna know who
I am. So it's not like, oh, it's like a
random person.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
That's a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I was willing to take the l you know what,
I'm saying and like and deal with the you look familiar?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Are you the you know what I'm saying just to
kind of like definitely was gonna get that with the
number eight.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
What he didn't even know that he could have just
called me out of the game a quarter got back and.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Speak didn't realize that, you know what I mean, I
am from the bank.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
You know, hey, man.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Wallace, I know I know you man Nah Noah, you
know the time take your food to keep it questioning.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
The fast food. I listen.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I remember being in Rancho Cucamongay after the money when
the money was low and I was I had a
I had a rented Lincoln town car that I was
hiding from the rental company. Okay, this story, Okay, yeah
it took off because I had you know, they had
a two bedroom. It was only like thirteen hundred, Okay,
(17:23):
So I took off the Rancho got in there.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
You picked me up around that area.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
We were deep and I'm looking at this best Buy
like I could pack boxes here, I could I could
stack some box.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Because if you go do the like the old and
I were trying to figure it out though, but hanging
out with right and it looking like.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Everything was together them at the party and I'm right
next to him and they almost was rubbing. It's like,
oh okay, they doing And then I drive that the
town car back to back to ranch. You know what
I'm saying that Rubber really messed the road and trying
to figure out what that next movie is the.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Entertainment business and the nutshell because it's it's about staying
the course. It's about staying out here wherever that is
that that's that you're close to the work, that will
one day you'll wake up and you'll get that phone
call that it changes for you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Like I remember having a conversation with.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You and you're like, I gotta go to the bay.
I was like, you're going to the bay, and he
was like, it's a movie out there. It's like it's
an indie movie.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
And the crazy thing is, you know, our relationship and
my relationship with with our fellow brother Tristan Wilds. He
also was supposed to be part of that movie and
got sick when he was doing nine two one oh
And I remember you called me and you were like, bro,
this this movie is is special. And at first you
(18:57):
didn't tell me what it's about, just like you know.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
And then I never forget this. You said you should
come up here.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I was like why.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
He was like, no, Ni, because you're from the Bay.
I'm telling you you could just play one of the parts.
And I was like, dang, I'm not an actor.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I knew you set me up though. I was.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
He's big, but I can say bruh two or three
times in the movie and I'm like, nah, I'm cool.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I mean, you told you.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
He was like, he finally told me what the movie's
about with mister Grant, and I was like, oh shit,
I knew about the whole thing. I was like, this
is about to this is about to be different, This
is going to be different. And the crazy thing is
my cousin at the time was going to college or before,
but before that with Ryan, your cousin was the number
one linebacker in the nation at the time. He go
(19:48):
to see him and Ryan both from Oakland. They link
and he already telling me about him. And then you like,
hey man, this young director out the Bay. He got
this great idea and what you did with that movie
it represented us so well with you not being from
the Bay, like just not aside from us all being
(20:08):
black man, but just the Bay Area we.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Have a very.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Like it's cold.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
It's a particular island that we live on out there
right that it's just so different from the rest of
the West Coast. But the rest of the world. We
got our own language, we got our the way we dress.
It's just we live in our own world. Tank of
tell you go up there, he be like, I enjoyed myself,
but it is different. So to capture that and the
way you captured it, bro, I don't even know if
(20:37):
I've ever even told you over all these years, like
you really made me proud of just a friend because
I didn't see my friend anymore. And that's a huge part,
you know that with actings, I did not see Mike,
you know what I mean, Like I saw you playing
Oscar and I'm like, he did this such a great service.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
So thank you from us from the criby.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No thanks all, mom, and just be able to like
embody that that character and that you know that moment
in time. You know me, I was real pissed off
around that time just in general, just like it was
a lot you know, shooting's going on trade by Martin
just got shot.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
It was a lot, a lot, a lot of shit.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Going on in the world, and like that was an
outlet for me to kind of express myself the way
I could, which is through the work.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
You know what I'm saying, and then you know, and
say something. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So so, you know, meeting Ryan and you know, going
through all the steps, so moving up there and living
and staying you know, you know, just you know, in
close proximity to you know, Oscar, his friends and family,
you know, people that you know. I had to get
to know him through the people that knew him the best.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And that was my first time really doing like a
like a real deep dive like that, you know, as
far as doing like a real the real homework, you
know what I'm saying and like and so so for me,
it was doing a bunch of things. I got a
chance to say something, I got a chance to prove
that could carry a film, you know. But then also
I represent you know, so many other you know, Trayvon
Martins and Oscar Grants throughout the world. You know what
(22:02):
I'm saying that that don't get their stories told. You
know what I'm saying that doesn't get an opportunity to
you know, to to get justice, you know what I'm saying.
So so yeah, that movie meant a lot to check
a lot of boxes for me.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
I want to get to the where you going, you know,
I want to get to the I want to get
to the block question that's happening right now. But I
just want to ask you one question before we get
to the you know, to the series of amazing, amazing
body of work that you've got.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Because we see, like we've we've been in Hollywood for
quite some time, and we kind of understand the the
overtones and then the undertones of how this thing kind
of moves and shakes and and the question I wanted
to ask you was like, why do you think it's you?
(22:50):
Out of all the people you've come up with, and
out of all the people you know, you've worked with,
that you know put in the work and who are
talented and you are amazed only talented, amazing work ethic,
what is the special quality about Michael B. Jordan that
sets him apart from everybody else? I mean, that's tough
(23:16):
only because.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
We'remen of faith and understanding you know that it's above us,
you know what I'm saying, Like our blessings, we're blessed,
you know what I'm saying, and highly favored, you know,
so we know spirituality, God has a lot to do
with us and success and the blessings that we have,
and just and just the avoidance of bullshit. You know
(23:39):
what I'm saying that could knock us off our path,
because that's equally as important. You know, I'm talking about
family prayer circles, people that we're shielded.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
So there's that that that goes there.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I mean, I was a little bit with this movie
was about for me, you know, trying to figure out
like you know, having that conversation, you know, kind of
exercising my way through you know, why me, you know,
and I think part of it is chosen, you know,
for certain things. And then also my ability I think
(24:11):
maybe I don't know process information, think, put things together,
you know, build ship, you know, I my gut, my intuition.
You know, I listen to that ship all the time,
you know, being able to read people, you know, hear
the hear the note behind the note. You know, what
is what is what is the real intent behind things?
(24:33):
You know, being able to kind of like dissect that
all the time, which is a lot, but at the
same time, it's my norm, you know what I mean,
So you know, And then I said the work ethic.
You know, it's a combination. It's a bunch of different things.
I don't think it's like the one thing that makes
(24:54):
it makes it different. I think it's just a combination
of just particular point of views and approaches and disciplines
that that equal.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
You know, the ability to like, you know, do what
I do.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know, that's the I want to accept all of
that right because all of that is very much true.
I feel like you're you're part of a bigger universal message.
It's empathy, bro.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I think it's empathy being able to, like I feel,
I'm an EmPATH, you know what I'm saying. But once
you feel and you understand what it is, you can
get people what they need.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Well, that too, all of that, you are proof that
good people win.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
That being a good person being an amazing human being.
Because there's always this quote of good guys always finished last.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I agree, And you are giving good people an example,
an example. You can do it the right way. You
cannot be part of that and part of that and
these other things. You can do it the right way.
You can be raised right, you can talk right, you
can act right, you can walk right, you can do
(26:17):
your best.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I met your mom and daddy.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
You from good stock, bro, like you come from good things.
And what he's saying is absolutely right. You're an example
of that, bro, And we're here to tell you that.
Look all the rest of this shit. You have been
consistently you from the day I met you, and I
had no idea you was going and looking at at
(26:45):
Jack in the box application because that didn't matter to me.
I was like, that's the homie. I never get caught
up in none of that. My friends and my friends,
but now we all know what this life has done
for you in the position that put you in, and
you are the same exact person. Appreciate that you are
the same exact person. If like, listen at the at
(27:07):
the premiere, if we catch eyes, it's expected.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I don't care who in.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
This million nigga, we're gonna say what so we gonna hug,
We're gonna tell each other we love each other. Man,
Thank you thank you and congratulations. And this is what
it's supposed to be when it's a real brotherhood. This
ain't about nothing else, and we got to stop telling
people that it's about Oh.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
He ain't checked in with me, he ain't called me.
And I man, we got lives and we're busy moving.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
But when we when we catch you, we catch these
eyes and I see my brother left take where we
left off.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Bro, So you know toast to you for that.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I appreciate in a real way.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
I was trying to figure out if he was trying
to ask why you wasn't kill Mangert, and he was,
that's that's I thought you was going there, but you.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Didn't go there.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
You didn't go there. No exact No, we're curious. You
want to kill money.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No, he killed kill, I can't be killed. He went crazy,
he rocked.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I just made him think.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Maybe like the homie kill monks home, let's get let's
let's get to the ship man, let's get the creed man,
let's do it. Bro In in the one, I said, okay,
he's coming. M In the two, you sit in that
(28:37):
hospital bed. You shook me up. I said, he's here.
In three, I said he's out of control.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
And you cheated.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (28:50):
The little girl is a cheating.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Of control.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
It's a cheat coat.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I said, oh, out of your mind, you're out of
control and he must be stupid.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Stop I'm sitting I heard that. What you're doing, I'm
in there doing this. Look that's how I said. Whatever, Bro,
I watched, I watched. I watched Cree three, and I
was so proud of you so many levels. I watched
(29:27):
that entire movie with a smile on my favor even
when I was emotional, I still had a smile on
my FLM like it was. It was. And I'm sitting
next to Kevin Gates And when I say enjoying himself,
(29:54):
I'm talking. See that's where it goes right there. That's
a souldier you feel me. You don't understand what's going on?
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Right, So you all were engaged the whole time? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
When I say, at the time of its life.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Great movie.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
It was, Bro, it was, it was, it was amazing,
and it was more growth. Yeah, you're the director, it's crazy,
you're the star. Give me give me the process real
quick of you learning sign language?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Oh so like I was learning sign language while I
was working out in pre production too, so like one
of the thing, Me and Beyonca. Once I got the
Me and Testa, when I got the new script, I
was like, man, we should have just kept up with
it from Creed too.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
We would have been way more fluent right now.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
We would have been great, you know what I'm saying,
But but we we put ourselves on a fast track
to kind of like learn it, uh while while I
was working out. So like while I was working out,
I would work out, you know, have production meetings, script meetings,
you know what I'm saying. Whatever, we're building the thing,
but then I'll just go off to the side for
a little bit to do an hour a day, you
know what I'm saying with with my coach, and we
(31:03):
would uh you know, go through the basics, you know
what I'm saying. He would kind of like, you know,
he would sign, I would you know, you know, mimic
the sign, and then he'll test me on those like
four or five signs, you know what I mean, every
like fifteen minutes or so, and then we would like,
you know, recap that entire hour, and I would try
to go off memory and do that, and then the
next day they'll recap half of what we did the
day before, et cetera, et cetera, and kind of just
(31:25):
stare step me to until I didn't have any more time.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Laugh.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
But honestly, on the day, I'm a real visual person,
a visual learning so I could I could. I could
pick up on signs pretty quickly and then register it,
digest it, and then and then go go do what
I gotta do.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
That was that was a very special part of the movie.
Thank you and very and it was like it was
it was we put we we.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It was a natural evolution of things. Of course movie
you know, Donna's meets the love of his life. You
know what I'm saying as progressive hearing loss. You know,
we don't know where that's going. Cool second film we
pick up he's starting the family of his own.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Now, you know, you realize that the daughter cann or
can't she? You know, his parents are no more concerned.
You know, a healthy baby, you know what I'm saying.
Cant he get passed down?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Does she have it or not?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
The heartbreak of you know within you know, internally between
the Donnass Okay, damn, now what how am I going
to move forward with this? Questions around that? And it
was played beautifully by you know, Rocky and a Donnas.
You know what I'm saying, really trying to figure out
like what manhood is and like what Parento's all about?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You know, cool, we got that the third film. I
don't have to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
We're already a fully al family. You know, the house
is already tricked out, and Donnas has clearly invested time
to make sure and money to make sure his daughter
is going to get all the things that he never got,
you know what I'm saying, and really trying to like,
you know, make her life a lot better and comfortable,
et cetera, et cetera, and building all the things and
blah blah blah blah whatever. So in this movie, it
was really important, like to just normalize in the way.
(33:00):
You know, it really felt inclusive, and it wasn't about
the audience or anybody having.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Sympathy for her.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's like, no, it's the empathy you know, of understanding,
you know what what she needs.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
She'sa Mila Davis, Mila superstar, superstar, superstar.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, and so talented and I learned so much from her,
so just and then she encouraged me, like, look like,
even if you don't know exactly the sign gesture, your
body language is signing you know what I'm saying. And
the deaf community appreciates that so much by not just
talking to them or like getting frustrated no gesture, like try,
like and that's something for us that you know, the hearing.
(33:41):
We're definitely you know, you know, we're ignorant in a
lot of ways. But but but and and but just
getting out of your own get it out of our
own head and being like, oh I can't do this,
I'm gona feel supid. No, just try and I think
it'll make a big difference.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
My last piece, I mean, listen and amazing. Let me
tell you something. Listen, what's up? Because I act a
little bit like if you're a TV one and and
like Lifetime, I'm like Michael b O Okay, Michael G.
(34:20):
I'm like Michael G, Michael G four, Michael T. Anyway,
you guys were having so many conversations outside of the script,
like just within the physicality of how you guys were
(34:44):
dealing with each other, from eye contact to no eye
contact when I say it was crazy, it was like
y'all had done movies before, like you guys had been
synced before, and other moments to build because the build
up that of chemistry is really crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
And it's rare.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
It's rare, rare and not undercurrent that y'all were carrying
along with what was being said in the environment.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
It was incredible, Thank you man.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
No, he's he's a special talent, you know what I mean.
He's a kindred spirit too, you know what I'm saying.
He immediately he would feel like one of us, like
like a brother for sure.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
And and he he's so he has so much depth
to him.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And complexities that just played perfectly you know in the
film that we needed from our antagonist, you know what
I'm saying, to to to counter the counterbalance are equally
as complex and the depth of Adonis, you know, of
our hero so so so he played that perfectly. He
was a workhorse. He you know, he was willing to
(35:50):
get in this shape. He was sacrificed, you know what
I'm saying. You know, you know, just time just to
really put it in and take this ship seriously, learning
the choreography, learning a certain style you know and bodying,
you know, Damien as a character, you know what I'm
saying coming from Crenshaw, just being like just an l
A l A story and and it and it worked, man,
it really worked. And then the box and stuff just
really like fell into place. And that was something that
(36:14):
I probably daydreamed the most about from like just over
the course of the entire trilogy, just like how would
I do the fights if I ever had an opportunity
to do them? And like that was something that I
really like, said, we just gonna swing for the fans.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
So why is he here?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
So why is he here?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
I mean, this is R and B, this R and
B Park podcast. What was Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, so did you drink your tea?
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Oh yeah, I'm here to Uh no, Lord wanted to
keep me humble.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
We are going with the cheat O.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Don't the way he's go down.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
You gonna understand where you're going.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It was a little bit like it was a little
cheers in that A little bit. I heard cheers a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
It's a lot of bar action.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
It's okay, bar action.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Drop five.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah, don't look at your top five Michael t looking
at you, Michael and.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Your top five Olive Bees.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, all this best song, my gold my gold Bees
talk five talk.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Talk yank tank yank tang tang.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yay.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Clearly the top right now, Michael, five.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
People, Michael B. Jordan's your top five R and B singers.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I'm going m hmm, Marvin Gay, m hm gontag Marvin Gay.
I'm going Russian. There is no particular order Russian. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm going. So if he's the king of pop, is
(38:44):
that considered for.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Michael with Jackson.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Beyonce? Oh man, this is tough.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Luther end it all right? And that thing all right? Yeah,
yeah yeah, Lufa lufer.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I don't mention Thank's going in there.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Got it. I don't mention Thank's going in there.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
You're six man.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I got I gotta you know, Jordan, I don't mind
coming off the bench that starting.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
We got we got one more than one more.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Thank you won't let you out.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
The dog.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
H You've been associated with a lot of great people,
uh huh, but in this segment, you better not. I
ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no name. I
ain't saying no names. You don't say. I ain't saying no.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I love y'all. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I tell you want to get here. I got this again.
We just.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
Standing invitation. Listen right now. You give us a story
funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? The
only rule to the game is you can't say no names.
Michael b Wakanda, Creed Wire, Fruit Fruit Bill Station, Jordan's.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Whoa.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Man. I got stories.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Now, I gotta figure out.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
How to tell these stories without no names.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Okay, let me see what I got for y'all. It
was Frank. I'm trying to think. What's the going.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
In my mind? Goes ship, y'all. Okay, this listen.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Uh you know, I'm no disruptive.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I'm gonna think of something good, so so so let
me let me, let me ponder. Come on, I would
rather y'all give me like a city.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
And then let me and then let me Miami.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, it's getting warm.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
So I'm down in Miami.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Hm. You know, I usually stay at a particular hotel
and I'm promoting the film, so I'm money down there
for a little bit of time. You know, you hit
you know, certain outlets. You know what I'm saying. You know,
just television, Telemundo.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
You know what I'm saying. You know, you bounce around,
you do your press or whatever, and.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
You go back to the hotel and then that's when
you do the rest of the press.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
You know what I'm saying. Press junkis cool.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
So I had my dad press.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I didn't eat that much that day because I woke
up it was a little late. You know what I'm saying, uh,
from the night before, which is is we're in Miami,
so there's not a lot of sleep going.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
You know, liquid ivs are helpful. Coconut water's top top
tier rehydration. So next day, don't eat that much. Don't
eat that much. A couple of other coat stars don't
eat it as much as either, So nobody's really eating
a lot. A lot of tea chunk, keep the voice together,
(43:16):
talking a lot. So we leave the hotel when we
go to uh, we go to dinner at this point,
you know, order advertiser said, but you know, we're really drinking.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
We're really we're drinking a lot, you know, alcohols flowing.
So it's a lot of drinks, not a lot of food.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I repeat, we we didn't eat a lot the last
couple of days. So uh, we proceed to have a
good time. A little little nibble here, a little this
little that, you know what I'm saying, tasting a little bit.
They ain't eat a full milk? Cool? Great, Right this time,
I'm a little lit. A couple of other people that I'm.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
With, they lit to.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
A little bit more more like the I am. I'm
usually the guy that, like you can't tell, is like
really drunk, but I'm nice. I'm there, I'm all the
way there. It looks like the lights are on. Ain't
nobody home?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Right? Right?
Speaker 4 (44:12):
All right?
Speaker 1 (44:13):
A couple other people a little bit more visibly messed up.
So in my mind, I'm like, okay, cool, let me
let me, let me, let me help these people get
to where you know where we're going, you know what
I'm saying, safely.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
So I'm in the middle of, like, you know, trying
to you know.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Help people get to where they got to go, et cetera,
et cetera. Run across some ladies. All right, this is Miami.
You know what I'm saying. We're outside, you know what
I'm saying, the venue in which we're getting ready to
go into, and some ladies that are there, they might
have recognized maybe a couple of us or whatever the
case may be. All Right, they wanted to roll in
and we all rolling all access. So we're in this
(44:48):
particular spot. More drinks are coming, a certain group of
ladies are there. One of the people that there starts
to look so good.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
They they you know, they stumbling a little bit, you know, balanced,
a little off.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
All right, Cool.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I'm like, hey, yo, I think it might be good.
You probably should go back, you know what I'm saying,
to to where we came from. You know what I'm saying,
where we reside at. You know what I'm saying. I
think it's I think it's I think it's done. You know,
we gotta get up in the morning. We got to leave,
and this is it. We did it. We did it, guys.
We had a great time.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
It was a great time.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Cool. So he didn't want to go. So he didn't
want to leave, So he proceeded to to grab the
bottle from a lady that was with us, and he
grabbed it like so like he grabbed the bottle with
like such force that he cracked his own like face
(45:47):
with it, right bah, and he just.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Kind of like kept drinking.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
I saw it vividly, so I was like, oh shit,
I was like, oh man, like that that was like
that was like it was you know, it was a
big bottle. Feel me like that with that that that's
that's hurtful. That that's not that doesn't feel good. But
he kept drinking like it was nothing. So everything was cool, great.
So we had the rest of the night. I had
a good time.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
Blah blah.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Get back in the car, cool, get back to the hotel.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
Cool. Stepping over a lot of things, but that's not
important to the store. Got it? Next morning?
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Wake up?
Speaker 4 (46:21):
My phone is like, what is going on? Hey? What's up?
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Time?
Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Ship, what happened to you?
Speaker 4 (46:34):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (46:36):
No, Mike, tell me what happened?
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I don't know?
Speaker 4 (46:38):
You're good?
Speaker 1 (46:39):
What's going What's what's going on?
Speaker 3 (46:41):
You?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yo?
Speaker 6 (46:42):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Like I don't know, I don't I don't know how to.
I don't know how to. You know, if he was
calling the person that was supposed to calm him down
and like like it wasn't that I wasn't. I wasn't
the one. I'm fresh fresh, I'm fresh off. You need it,
you gotta go call somebody. And I don't know if
you can get on the plane like that. I don't
know if they're gonna let you want a plane like that,
(47:05):
So you might need emergency dentists, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Some stitches, you feel me. It was the it was
the whole situation, and that was. It was a night
Miami names.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I did a good job. A couple of times I
almost sucked up. I did a good job, a good job.
More of the story is, don't drink with Michael B.
Jordan's without eating.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Without eating.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, because you want to try to match my ship,
don't don't match my ship.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
If you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You're looking to be consoleed, console or comfort, don't don't, don't, don't,
don't talk.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
I'm gonna tell you real, you're not you bust your ship.
You but your ship, you your ship.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
It's it was it was yeah, it was mm hmm. Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I have been any knights in Miami of those kinds
that I don't really remember, you know, just just thank
the Lord. I woke up in the hotel I checked in.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
I mean, I don't live like that.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
What anymore?
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Ever?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
What you mean?
Speaker 1 (48:12):
I don't live like that?
Speaker 3 (48:13):
I always know where I'm gonna wake.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Up at city ever, Okay, you you know me a
long time.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
You ain't never seen me get ain't nobody had to.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
You hold your ship very well?
Speaker 4 (48:24):
Tu tho, No, no, no, no, no, he doesn't. He doesn't.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
He don't do what we're talking about. But he gets
extremely violent, he gotcha. Yeah, depends on what he's drinking.
You know.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Okay, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Nice guy.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
People there, well hand yeah, these niggas, and then it
just goes from there. It goes from there. It goes
from us having a.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Great time to him telling Steph Curry all right, telling
that niggas st Curry took a picture with us if
he want to.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
Be safe out here? I said, why do I have to?
Why do I have to if you want to be safe,
why does it have to be the message for what
do I What do I gotta tell?
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Stuff?
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Took the picture of.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
The pictures of my face, shout ste crazy.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
That's not how I related. You take a picture of
his brother, but might be my brother. Man, you're awesome. Brother. Yeah,
and that's just not that's just not you know, friends talking.
That's that's you know, I'm gonna pull myself outside of
that outside looking at it.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Amazing brother, Man, thank you've done amazing work. Your legs
clean man, and keep.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
It that way.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Brother, you represent well my god. Ladies and gentlemen, My
name is Tank. This is the Army Money Podcast. And
uh you say that cool? And uh what else can
I say?
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Man? Greatness in the building. V. Michael being.
Speaker 6 (50:08):
R and B Money Money.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
R and B Money is a production of the Black
Effect Podcast Network.
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