REPLAY - OT Genasis

On this week's episode of The R&B Money Podcast, Tank and J Valentine welcome OT Genasis for a raw, unadorned conversation. The Long Beach, California native reflects on his challenging upbringing trying to navigate school and street life. Genasis moved from school to school, searching for something more. He found it in faith and in the pulse of his own music. He speaks of early days, the kind filled with gritty studio sessions and electric shows, and how Busta Rhymes played a part in his rise. Hits like “CoCo” emerged, bringing fame, tours, and Vegas residencies. Big names, Beyoncé, Floyd Mayweather, they noticed. It’s a journey of authenticity, of staying grounded amidst life's storms.

The talk wanders, not just about music, but about life's realness. The bond between Tank, J Valentine, and OT is clear, as if forged in simplicity and truth. Enjoy OT Genasis Now on The R&B Money Podcast!

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
R and B money.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Than we are the authority on all things R and B. Ladies, gentlemen,
even take the R and B the podcast, the authority
on all things R and B. Listen, name in the building. Yeah, yeah,

(00:32):
we got a brother. We gotta love one.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
We you know, we gotta start saying to the authority
on R and B, money, R and B, everything and
everything that comes along with R and B.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
You heard it, he said that I can come from
now on because everything come come along with R and B. Listen, man,
I'm not gonna make the intro too long. Man.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Okay, okay, the change you might make everybody mad.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
The change is big and the money's long. Yeah, come on, man,
come on, man, come on man. First, first, let me
say like this, let me say this, let me let
me get this off my chest. First of all, O
T is the nicest, nicest, funniest guy in the world.

(01:18):
When I say, in the world, in the world, always smiling.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
But don't play with it, don't play with don't play
with him, don't play with his people because for the
smallest thing, I'm talking the smallest thing, O T will
go there.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'm like, like, big, bro, what's what's going on, Oh, man,
he brought me some cold fries. Cold fries. God, who
brought to the fries? Oh, it's just fighting. It's the principal.
They taking your kind of weakness. God, they trying to
say you cold out here, you caught out the street. Up,

(02:00):
I'm gonna have a hundred niggas. It's just fright. It's
the principal car.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
He will go, hey, listen, that's movie.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
He can really fight. That's the problem. That's the problem.
But I love it because nigga, he's standing on all
the business. If he's fucking with you and he got
love for your nigga, you're not gonna let nobody play
with you. Yeah yeah, it starts there. Yeah yeah. Oh.

(02:37):
This is a few incidents I could go into. I'm
just like, oh no, stop it, please don't do this.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
I let nobody play with my role. Man, it ain't happening.
We'll be heavy that switch. I don't be sad. I'll
be saying for the other we're just bowling. I'm a
bonus nigga. I'll be having to go back to the

(03:13):
people and apologize.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I'm so sorry my little brother. You know, he's laughing,
like because I really was like, it's tired. You mean
what you mean?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
He he just love heart.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I'm sorry my life was in it was, but don't
worry about it. He's fine. Man, oh man, I just
had to get that off of my chest. Man brother,
I appreciate you. Oh, you know, we've had many a
deep conversation man, and you know, I think that for
me and of course I can speak for Jay bringing

(03:54):
you here on the R and B Money Podcast. It's like,
you know, it's it's one of those things where you know,
maybe maybe maybe as an overall title, you consider yourself
a rapper. I consider you a songwriter for sure. Yeah,
I consider you a hit songwriter. You know what I'm saying.

(04:14):
And you've done that, whether it just be rap, or
whether it be melodic, or whether you go ahead and
just fucking sing, get your remix on it to it.
Like you've done all of that. And I think that
that conversation is and that information is important for everybody
all across the border. So let's go. Let's go back

(04:37):
to the beginning. That's what that's what was. What was
a little old tie doing the beach?

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Yeah, I was, I was, I was in like I
was in long Beach, running around, you know, shooting dice
at school, you know, selling candy for some money, you know,
all that type of stuff. Obviously, Like I'm from Long
be so you know we have a certain type of

(05:06):
thing over there. I don't know if you say that
on this say what you want to say for you. Yeah,
so you know we come from like cript culture and
everything like that. I wanted to play football, but I
was bad as hell, so I was always ineligible. You know, you.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Know, look at you right now. I got nigga fast.
He ain't got a grade. I know that nigga fastest,
low hissy grade, make sure he don't play here.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
So my grades was bad, but I never I never.
I never got to like I'm one of the dudes
that like, I always used to get confused. And then
I start saying for school only because I like go
there and I like, do I do good?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I do?

Speaker 5 (05:57):
I finish all my homework and then fail all the
time because I would never like retain I can retain
the information. I'll just make sure I complete what I
need to complete, you know what I'm saying. And so
and so I started doing music. Then like by the
time I'm like sixteen, but then I went to like like.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Seven high schools you went to.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
I went to like seven, yeah, because I was Yeah,
because everybody wanted me to go to their school.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
I'll be over there next week. It's not a party.
I'm gonna pull up.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
No, I got I got kicked out of all of
all the schools I was.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I was, I was going to it.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
So I got kicked out at every school I went to,
and then I found in high school.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Because I was getting I was getting kicked out of
like districts and so and so I would so I
would start like in one and then I go like,
I gotta go from gonna be so Serritos.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
We don't want you to go to any of these
ten schools, right, you can't go to none of it.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
So what you're saying is you've been doing club hosting.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
You permitt.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
He only had two hour requirements. He come to his
hour and a half. I was kidding so like because
they were like I was so bad. They were like,
now we kick you out of the district, not out
of the school. It's not gonna expel you from the school.

(07:40):
You're gonna go down there and do the same ship.
So we get kick out whatever. But I was doing
music and I used to like go online and go,
I want to go back to something real quick, go
to the music.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I want to go to this. I was so bad
because I was really bad in school. Yeah, And I
don't know why I was really bad at school, Like
I was just up for whatever challenge, whatever another nigga
wouldn't do right right right before. It was before I
got to high school, right before I found the Lord.

(08:13):
The Lord changed me, but before that, and the psychologists
tried to give me, you know, all these reasons as
to why, and your parents and they left you early
and went overseas without you. It's just your rebel. I
was like, no, I'm not rebeling. The nigga just said
you want to fight, and I was with it. Teacher

(08:35):
said some bullshit and I called him the asshole. I
was That's just what I was on. What was your thing?
What was it that made you that way? Was it
just you was just like taking all challenges.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah, I was, especially when I left Long Beach because
when you kick me out of school, I'm like it
was kind of like I felt that like I was
already I was already bad because like like when I
had to always to.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Catch the bus. So I catch the bus.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
When I get to like the train station, like they're
banging on you a train station for those who don't
know what's like where are you from?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
So you start to get it, you get in that energy.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
I already had that energy before I even get to school,
you know what I'm saying. And then we like shoot
dice at the McDonald's outside of my school in the morning,
like so we'll try to get with that's that that
that's what makes us get up early.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
You know, you said, we gotta we.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Gotta shoot dice at McDonald's before we before we across
the street. And so but some time, but my, my, my, my,
you know, all through my youth, I have to catch
the bus and catch the training. That's when you run
into niggas and you run into.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Whoop and where you're from. Oh oh damn.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
We gotta get off on this stop because over there,
you know.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
What I mean.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
And so so then when I when I left Jordan
My my my main school, that's like my homeschool across
like down street from my.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And I left out of Long Beach.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
I'm always looking at other niggas different, you know, because
they looking at me and I'm like, you know, so
I'm instantly it's a it's a defense mechanism, you know.
And but I'm like, I'm ripping, and I'm like I
always now now I'm I'm I'm always trying to prove
myself to somebody, you know what I mean, and prove

(10:25):
that I ain't no bitch, I ain't no that I
come from here. You know, So when somebody says something
to you here, even if it's not even if it's
not like really threatening like that, you take it like
that because you know, you come from a certain place.
So I can't the way I'm trying to collect this
information that you're telling me right.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Now, different, it all, it all feels, it all feel
the same.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah, yeah, And so you mean by that, yeah, so
I would I would do that. I would do that,
you know what I mean. I had like I used
to have like my you don't have the eye, the
I seven thirdys and next tails and all that, you know.
I used to do that bring like, yeah, call my homies,
you know what I mean, Like bring guns to school.

(11:10):
I used to have my little douce fires and my
little backpack and everything like that. Like I used to
be like I used to be like on bullshit unto you,
was really out of control. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but
but yeah, but it was like because every time I
get on a bus stop and I get on the train,
they got this thing called.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
The Blue Line, right la, and they go from Long Beach.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
You got the Long Beach station, the Artisa station, then
you got the Wilmington station, which is Compton. Then you
got the one hundred and third station which is Watts
you know, and your shit keep going all the way
from Long Beach or downtown today somebody. So you're going
through every hood and when you get off, you get
off the train. You know, it's sometimes Nigga is sitting outside.

(11:57):
They just sitting outside the train station tripping, you know
what I mean, Like just nobody want no money, no nothing.
We just hear trip you know what I'm saying. And
so I was always moving that way to protect myself.
So I'm like, I'm like overly protective about myself. But
at the same time, I'm like I'm like I'm aggressive

(12:18):
because I'm overly protected by myself.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
And at sixteen, you can't turn that on and off.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, it's not like, oh, now I'm in a classroom.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Now I'm gonna turn.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I'm gonna turn this this this tripping off.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
No, I'm tripping on.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Everything because I gotta be like this happened to protection,
So I gotta be like this for nothing, nothing that
happened to me, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
So you got initiated, so motherfuckers. No exactly exactly him alone, exactly.
I'm not waiting for a nigga run up on me.
And I'm like, as soon as I get off, I'm
saying it instantly. I ain't.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
And I always felt like I had to be that way,
you know, and that obviously that's what got me kicked
out of all these damn schools. You know, there's others
I gotta be. I always feel like I had to
be the rest, you know. So he was going into
the computer, into the music. Yeah, so so I would
I would look on online and I would see certain
things where damn, what's that site was back then?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
No?

Speaker 5 (13:17):
No, no, no, no, where they like sell stuff in
cars and and craigs, right, and then like people were
like you know, and they just like people would put
up like shows into where you like artist gotta sell
tickets and everything. And back then they had shine heagely
they had all this all this stuff right.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Where that's what is that golden voice?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
And so like they would have like artists perform, but
you had to sell like ten tickets, but what get
to get on the show. So it's like if I
sell team, he sells tea, he sell he sellt We
got a packed show and all our people was there.
So I would that's what that's what I would do whatever.
But every time I performed, it was like, damn, you're
a great performer. You da da da We love your music, Blase,

(14:01):
but this is me young, you know. And I kept
doing that, kept doing that, kept doing that, and you know,
you you start to meet people, and you start to grow,
and people start to grow, you know, as you guys
are going up and and then I start meeting people.
That's like they're like, yo, we're gonna put you on
this show. And you know, you win this contest, you

(14:27):
you do a song with Lil Wayne, you know what
I mean, like what and then you know, then they
have this and then but the whole time they like
they finishing you your bread you know what I'm saying.
And so they trying to figure out who can sell
the most tickets, so you can sell thirty, you know,
thirty tickets at ten ten dollars each or twenty twenty
dollars each, you know, and just how the people how

(14:48):
they was making money. So so years after that go
by and I do a song out here. It was
a song called Touchdown that I did, and I met
this guy there and this guy so I think it
was a Jamaican guy. He was like, yo, you signed
and signing anybody. I'm like nah, He's like, all right, cool,

(15:08):
I got I got, I got somebody you know for
you to talk to. I'm like, okay, cool. So so
coming to happen. The guy that he was talking about
was his name was Dino's name was Dino Devaye. So
he had signed cast Money and he was trying to
sign fifty. But when he was trying to sign fifty
at University originally before fifty went to in the scope

(15:30):
and so he's still but University didn't want to sign
fifth because of all the shit. The gun was so like,
well now we're not signing him, so I guess, so
Fifth still kept a relationship with him because he was
trying to make something happen, you know. And then he
sent over the music. So Dino sent over the music

(15:50):
to Fifth, and then Fifth called me and I'm helping,
Like I'm helping my boy move. I got a refrigerator,
Like I'm want a dolly helping my homeboy move out
of his apartment.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
It's like, yeah, they like yo, da da da da da.
Some guy get on the phone. I'm on the phone
with Dino. Then he goes, yo, yeah, yeah, that guy's fifty.
What someone the phone?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
What's up? Niggah? So now me and Fifth on the phone,
we're talking for like an hour. You still have refrigerator.
So so look I got the I got I got
all of It's like we got all. We got the
truck right there.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
We're really moving, bro, like I'm really helping him move.
And so Fifth it's like, yo, so we chopping up.
He's like, look, man, we gonna do something. So listen
when we get off this phone. I think he said
he was. I remember he was like, we got the phone.
Don't go around telling your whole hood you.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Rich, right.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
He was like the last thing like yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
He said, don't go around telling your whole hood you rich, right,
and so he was like, I'm gonna come meet you
in l A.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
All right, cool, So he came meet me in l A.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
We chopped it up and then that's around the time
he was doing like his s K headphones, his his
energy dreams, all that stuff. So we was running around,
was like me and him and Floyd. That's when him
and Floyd was like super tight. And but I didn't
know what a single deal was. You know what I'm saying.
You just know you got to deal song for the
time exactly, and so okay, boom. So now that deal

(17:13):
is over and I'm kind of like, yoh, what's going on?
What's going on? Is going but I'm not knowing that
this is a single diss, this is for one song
you've been signed for. And I was okay, cool, But
I always say it in contact with him, I always
check you know, I mean check in, check in whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
So maybe I'm not. So I tell Dino who song
came out?

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, it came out, it came out, Yeah, it came out,
and it was all right. But then I tell Dino
became my manager at that time, I think he made
the place. So I'm like, what's going on? So, you know,
this is just a single deal, was like, this is
how things work or whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I'm like, I thought I was fifty forever, you know
what I mean? Yeah, yeah, chef is on that.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Wow, man, you gotta come through, you gotta come through you.
So I don't you know, I don't know. You know
what I'm saying. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
I'm so I'm new to this and whatever. So I
just buggled down, kept recording.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
And then.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Three years later, I mean, playhouse out here and I'm performing,
and then I meet Buster and the busts like yo,
we're starting to I'm like nobody.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
He's like, oh, let's go talk to the studio. In
the studio, let's go talk about cool. And then when
I go home, like, what's up all these New York niggas?
You know what I mean, I'm right here, you know
what I mean? And so.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
And so I meet him at the studio. We start
chopping it up. We started talking about life and and
and principles and you know everything. I was telling him
like as a man, like you know what, I go forward.
I ain't going for while you know things like and
and so be cool. So he goes to Atlantic, gives
me a deal at Atlantic. You know when they give

(19:10):
him a label deal. They give me a deal, get
a label deal.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It was to me.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
And so now they gave me some money. Nigga, I
ain't recorded for damn near a year.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Right off of your advance.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, I'm spending the money, right, I'm busy. So I'm
spending the money. Now, you got it.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Now you have a full record, right right right.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
I have a full record deal.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
So now I'm not knowing that. I just know they
gave me some money. Nobody's teaching me.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
And why here is this?

Speaker 5 (19:42):
This is two thousand and fourteen. Wow, okay, wait yeah, no, no,
it's twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It was thirteen. And then the December of twenty.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Thirteen when it's happened, and so it to like August
and the A and R comes my A and R riggs.
At the time, he came with some verbiage. I don't
know what he's talking about.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
So I did. I'm like what he's doing.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
They're like, oh, they're saying that they're about to drop you.
You know, at the end of the year, you haven't
put out no music, it's no, no, no nothing. I'm like,
oh ship, So I'm panicking right.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
So because you that at this point they just paid
you the party.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, I was hoping, so look hoping that they gave
me some money. I'm thinking, look right now, I'm like,
they gave me some money.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
I'm like, you know, y'all, ain't you know I had
to like hustle for shit like this, like, y'all give
me some money, Okay? Cool?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
And so.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
We get into August. They gave me that conversation. We
get the September, I dropped, I record Coco right, and
I record Coco and I was about to shoot was
about to shoot another video for a different song that.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I did, right, so I should this. This is the
coldest thing ever.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
So this song was about to put out and we
shot a video, everything, big budget video everything. I was like, oh,
this shit is about to be lit right. And I
saw the video and I was like, I don't like it.
And this is when I start going. I started paying
attention where I really start to understand videos and understand

(21:24):
that editors make the video as well, you know what
I mean. So I'm like, what happened that scene? What happened,
that scene, what happened and that seen you see? All
those dope moments that made you excited about the video
is not in the video. You go, oh, man I
I don't like it. Then go so what you want
to do? And then Bus like, so what you want
to do? I'm like, man, I I don't like it.

(21:46):
He said, you got another song? Like, I got another
song I want to put out. This is exactly how
I went. We're supposed to put the video the whole
second song after no, No, No, this is this song. It
was a song called Yum Yum that I did right,
and we're supposed to put it out. I didn't like
the video, big budget video, everything. I didn't like it.

(22:07):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
I'm not I'm not putting that I don't like it.
So Bus looking at me like, so what you want
to do?

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Oh Tam, And he's like stressed out, like what the
we just shot a whole spend that money on you.
I'm like, I don't want to do. I recorded some
ship the other night that I want to do right cool.
So he's like, all right, word me here. So that's
SOM's Coco. You go shoot the video on the project.
It ain't no budget, no more, you know what I mean?

(22:35):
But yeah, exactly, shoot that video. Everybody was scared, like,
look at all this ship you put in the video
or drop that bitch.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
And motherfucker that listen. I remember the first.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Time I heard it.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I remember, I want to say, I was in Graystone. Yeah,
what year is that? Twenty fourteen? Yes, yeah, around that time. Yeah,
and that shit kicked in and I was like, what
the fuck is that? And we had no idea you
was from California?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah? I love that part.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
We had no idea you was from California.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
And I kind of want to go back to what
when you were saying you were like all these cats
from New York had reached out to you. Do you
feel like the politic with the culture that y'all have
in l A kind of kept people away from reaching
out to you to do a deal.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I think that. I think that.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
Let me tell you, let me tell you this short story.
I used to run around with just dj DJ Amen Yeah,
and Amen did everything to try to get me on,
but they were like the music that he does, everything,
he don't sound like a West Coast artist.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
This is what.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
People DJ's are saying right. And I used to a
hustle in Atlanta all the time. I used to hustle,
and so everybody was like, he's from Atlanta, He's I
never said I wasn't. I never said nothing. I'm like,
I'm gonna play the game. And so it's crazy because
your own city be like, oh, well, if you don't

(24:38):
sound like you're from here, you're from here, then you
ain't from here, you know what I mean. But nigga,
I'm from here for shelfah. But they're like, oh, if
you're gonna sound like you from here, then we can't
give you that love like that because we feel like
that's that maybe not it's maybe not deemed authentic to
our culture, you know, as far as l he is concerned.

(25:01):
And so when I understood that, I played the card.
And by the time they realized bro from it was
too late. So that when it was like, oh, you
see walking over here long down the street, right, and
anybody who knows here like, oh, he cold.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
So I just played the game the system.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
That's how it came That's how it came back.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Now you had to love me, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
it worked out in your favor absolutely because that's how
it came back around from Obviously, I'm from the Bay
and man's from the Bay, and he had been telling
me about right, and I didn't realize it was the
same artists.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, I didn't realize the same artist.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Crazy because like you said, when you first hear Coco,
you can't you really can't say where the.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Artist where's from? Ye? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, yeah yeah, because for one, you're always yelling at people.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I don't know what that's about. You like to yell.
I know, the Spanish got torn.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
So funny, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Listen, I'm with Floyd Mayweather and the Strip Club. That's
a great place to hear. He like, what's your take?
What's your sake? That's so came on. I know he records,
I know he records records. Like, who the fuck is
what you're doing this? He's doing this? I said, what

(26:31):
the fucking side, nigga?

Speaker 5 (26:33):
I went to the Strip Club, Floyd, Floyd went to
Strict Club. He played that I was in there. Play again,
play again. That was his favorite song, play back. You
have to walk around with the what's the what's the ship?
That not before that, before the iPhone, they had the
I what was it?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I it was like the little the I Pop.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, he used to walk around the ipid with the
motherfucker headphones off.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
When I say that, Nigga played that song over, no,
pretty much. It pretty much by bottles to it one
hundred thousand and one to Yeah, yep. I seen him.
I've seen him.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
I seen him in the club go throw like eighty
and it was all on Coco, back to back to
back to back to back, and I'm in there like
and and when when they come in with they coming
with boxes.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
You know what I'm saying, They can with boxes. They
got to put the money in the boxes.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
So it's too much and it's over and it's my
ship though, and I'm like, this ship is crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
It's crazy. Fact that it's not another song. Now, one
other song.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Come on, He's like, if you want me to keep
throwing this money, keep playing this song.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
So so I'm going to I'm going to just guess
that Atlantic didn't drop.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
You know, and that And at that point when I
started to understand music, I said, damn, I wish they did.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
That and dependent.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Because this whole time I thought that he had Coco
Independent before you did that deal you didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
You did that record? Because they literally that I dropped.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
I literally recorded Coco Boom with like September shot, the
shot the video late September. Dropped Coco November twenty fourteen,
and they say when they were supposed to drop me
at the end of the year, So I probably had.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Like one month month now.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
And mind you, mind you when I dropped it, they
didn't service it. It just went got you boom and
then they had to catch on lab. But it was
it was too it was too big. It was too big.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
So how much do you think that cost you? The
video would have been independent? How much money you think
it cost you being signed to catch it?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
No? No, no, how much money do you think you
would have got in your pocket.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
If you would have been in with that record?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I don't mean to make you mad to think about this,
but you know, if you drop Coco as an independent artist.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
It takes all the same way.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Label eighty five, fifteen, ninety ten. How many are sold.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
It?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
What's the numbers today on Coco? For how much? How
much I'm playing?

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Well, but I'm gonna take one thing, I tell you
one thing.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Because your performance royalties alone.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
My performance royalties is crazy alone. But how much money
I made on the road just on just doing shows.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Off of Coco. Like I'm like somewhere like in like ten,
I can believe it. Yeah I'm talking yeah, yeah, just
off Coca. Just off the yeah, just off the shows.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, just off show. And
then I want you to go double back. And everybody's like, oh,
he's a one hit winner, He's done it that. And
I'm like I'm hearing this the whole time, right, and
I'm like, oh, ship, So what I'm gonna do. I'm like, damn,
I'm still getting money on the road. And when I'm
doing interviews, they asked me, so, what's next? You know
what I did after that?

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Cut it boom, we're young question. Let me ask your question.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Cut it cut I'm gonna tell you what he used
to be doing when we be in the club.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Would come on and that nigga take it. Just look
at nig like that. I used to sing like a chirt.
I used to sing like a thinking when he comes
up and say cut it, cut it, cut cut it,
cut it, cut it, cut law, you gotta cut it.
Cut it from me long and breaks this way too.

(30:56):
You gotta cut it along, cut it cut. Let me
ask you a question because because now we're starting to
get into Now we're starting to get into songwriting and
consistency and understand and understanding and being a professional at
this ship being able to dial it up on demand.
When you did Coco, did you feel like you had

(31:16):
found something that you took from uh just just just
from a format standpoint to to do cut it or
was cut it just a new build for you? Completely?

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I'm really I'm not even gonna lie. I was just
drinking alcohol, and I'm.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
You want to write here, record kids, you want to
write records.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
And sometimes it's just open like because like I'm not
trying to promote drinking, right, But what I say is
like when I'm when I'm drinking, like even with my personality,
like the only thing it does is it you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
So, but I can be be really happy, really upset,
you know.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
But when I'm in a studio and I'm drinking, I'm in,
I'm in I'm at home. You know, it's the vibes.
I feel like I'm in the club. I feel like
i'm you know, And so I actually recorded, cut it
and push it the same night, Go get the money.
I record that shit the same night. I recorded them
the same night, same night, the same night. Yeah and
so and so.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
But it's not like you're encouraging like, oh, drink and
you're gonna make hit records. I think you're speaking from
a place of your just your comfort zone.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, studio, having a beverage, having.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
A good having Everybody has the methods.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Everybody has their their environment.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Because because when I was coming up and I was
making music, it was always fun for me.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
And so.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
Then when I start getting a deal and everything and
I watch everybody else, I'm like, damn, everybody's so serious,
you know, and I'm like, it ain't it ain't fun.
No more so when you when you when you create
that that lane to where it's fun again and you
like a kid again, that's when you start making all
like your best music, you know what I mean, Because

(33:18):
it's fun, you know. You know, sometimes we we you know,
we're worry about criticism or other people, how other people think, whatever,
But so much so much pressure, necessary pressure, But but
you never felt that when you were trying to get on,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
We were trying to get on. It was just like,
this is who I am just doing that?

Speaker 5 (33:38):
You're singing your ass off, you're doing it. Nothing was
a bad song. Nothing was that. Nothing was you keep
listening to that ship your whole leader studio. You get
a copy of that, you listening to the whole way home,
like damn. And so I had to you know, with
psychological for me. So I had to go, you know what,
let's get back in that lane. Let me just have fun.

(33:59):
And even if I don't court nothing tonight, that's okay.
I bring people to the studio. Everybody, have a drink,
y'all have a drink here. We're gonna party. Have whatever
come to me, come to me. And if I don't
record anything this night, that's what.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
That's okay.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
I'm okay with that, you know what I mean, because
I know what I came. I came to have a
good time.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
And listen and within that good time, even if it's
not that night, reflecting on that good time. Oh Ship,
there's a record, there's a gym in there, there's a
there's a moment where we was saying whatever we were saying,
we'll put that in it. Like the experience is what
makes the record. Yeah yeah, yeah, living this ship is

(34:37):
what makes the records. You know. People ask me like,
how do you stay current? I was like, I just
stay alive. Yeah for real, that's how you say. I
write about today. I write about things I actually do.
I'm doing these things. I'm putting the ship on. You
know what I'm saying, I'm that name in Marcus. I'm
surfing through the through the drip. Yeah, you know. You

(34:57):
know what I'm saying. I'm you know, I'm at the
strip club, you know, so I know where they got
the best chicken tenders. I know where the best impossible
bird is. A magic city men there. So it's like
as you as you live and you're in it and
you stay in it. It don't matter if you do
it that night or even even that. We don't put
don't put that unnecessarily. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, guard ain't

(35:21):
like that. Yep.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
You just know at the end of the day, I'm
gonna get back to the plate and I'm a bad again.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
That's it, so Coco. And then the second one is
cut it, cut it, and then the third one is
push it. And then after that was I didn't think
thick with two chains.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So did you what did you what did you realize
though that you were doing or do you realize that
you do motivational music?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
I feel like I can lift the whole gym when
I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Now, teacher, okay, throw your whole back out.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
I was at the airport the other day in the
air for the day.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I was buying I buy some chips, and the.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
Lady was like, damn, I just got back from the
gym listening to you, you know what I mean? And
I and I never knew it like that. I just
always because I used to like and still to this day,
like like, I party so much and have a good
time so much. So when I am like I spent
so much time in the club, like girls just like
you always in the club, I'm like, yeah, well my

(36:43):
music is there too, sweetheart.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
What are you doing here? You do research? Yeah, I'm
actually in there.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Yeah yeah, and so so I So I listened to
the vibration, the sounds, I listened to the pockets, listening
to other people like and so I start making recordster
where it starts becoming like chance.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know, and I'm not knowing it, but I'm knowing it, you.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
And so when I spend the.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
Time in the club when I'm partying, then I said,
I can hear what catches somebody, and I go, okay, I'm.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Not gonna do exactly what that is.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
But if I do what I do and I get
to catch them the way that caught them, then I'm
you know, I'm good. So when I am in the studio,
I'm in the club, you know, and and and I'm
near and I'm like, what if I'm like, no, no, no,
that i' sound right. Okay, Now I said too many
words right here. It's not gonna be to the to
the to the human ear.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
So I gotta what's catchy? What to be there?

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Okay, I say this, Okay, then I play it back.
I'm like, alright, cool, I look good.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I look like back. You know what I'm saying, Like
you know what I mean? Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
It's so much you giving real information right now, You're
giving a masterclass in songwriting. Yeah, because listen, you know
your pocket, you know where your music belongs.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
You make music for the club. You make music for
the club.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
So okay, what are the elements of the club people
are either singing off key.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
You know what I'm saying, They really can't remember a
whole bunch of shit because they might be drunk.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
So they need only a certain amount of words like
you said, like okay, maybe I said too much. That
is that is songwriting. That is truly songwriting. Somebody could
try to you know, you got the purest of the world.
That'd be like, oh no, you must do this, No motherfucker,
you must take yourself away from your extreme talented self

(38:44):
and say, what would these people, the person who hasn't
been to Berkeley School of Music, what are they going
to dance to? How can I motivate them in their lives?
What do they want to ride around in the car?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Too?

Speaker 6 (38:58):
Right?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Right, that's exactly what you've been doing.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Right, And it's like who's in the club, who's in
the class, who's my client? Who's my clean tale? Tell listen,
it's drug dealers, it's gangsters and all the other niggas
in there, the niggas that beautiful and the most beautiful women. Yeah,

(39:23):
to put they put that ship on to be recognized
or seen by the So you you you give them voices.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
And I also understand that that if I want to
get the attention of these women, that's here.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
If I get the attention of these guys, that's here.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
These guys are the one that's paying for these tables,
and these women are the ones that singing the song
with these guys, because these guys are the guys with
the money who's paying for so they attach themselves to them.
So and so girls will go you see girls pull up. Uh,
you go to a house party, go to even you
go to a hooker lounge, go to whatever, and a

(40:06):
girl grabbed the ice core.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
You're like, how she noticed she had heard this because
she was.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Hanging with that nigga over there with all that money,
and she was hanging with him, and that's that became
her favorite song.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, research, research, Yeah, like that songwriting, being in those spaces. Yeah,
you gotta be in it. Yeah, you gotta be in it.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta be.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
You gotta gotta get some you gotta get some on
you get yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah. Okay. So it's like you just like.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
You're here and you go, okay, thinking like you're talking
about something. You're talking about something valentime. You like y'all
talking about this or this experience. Y'all singing to a
woman and you talking about experiences that you had and
all this stuff. But you guys never done this, you
know what I mean? Or you guys never you know,

(41:00):
please the woman this way, but you're talking about it's
not gonna feel the same.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
It doesn't send off the same exact raations. It can't exactly.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
So when you're when you're there and you're doing that
and you talk about that, that's when I.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Don't write from a mystical place. I write from your reality.
I do. Yeah, yeah, now your reality, even if I
got to write it ten times. Yeah. Nigga Tank always
sucking up yeah in his songs, Well always I sucked
up a lot better now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

(41:40):
there was run down the list of songs. Man. We
were we were just we were just getting to some
to some more songs.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Okay, let's start with because as they were interviewing you,
asking you what was next, think you was a one
hit wonder, No no, and then you went crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
You went crazy after that cut, after that push it,
push it pushy, thick, thick it was thick.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
Who bay I look like looked like bee mm hmm. Everybody, man,
let's started.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Stop right there, Stop, everybody relaxed. We're gonna post up right.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Here, get into the mondy everybody, Mari and you.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
You know who heard that? You know who heard that record? Yeah,
I'm gonna dance that.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
The Queen yeah said I need some of this for myself.
Yeah yeah yeah. Listen, man, how does that feel? My
brother from Long Beach kicked out of seven districts, told
he was only gonna have well ship, wasn't promised life

(42:50):
past eighteen right right right then you get an opportunity.
I was told you're not gonna have another one of
these right now? We five six in deep.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Yeah, yeah, we ain't talking about the track.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
We talked about the track. Beyonce the Queen, Yeah, yes,
you know what. Nigga cheers, Yeah, yeah, yeah it was
a man.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
We got to this to this cheers, My brother cheers.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
The Queen says, I need these bars, I need this
moment in my show, and you get to see that
live with the choreography with the band. I mean, is
this Coachella, I mean this is around.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
This is the first night the first time did yeah,
the first the first time she did is Coachella.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
What goes through your mind when you see that?

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Now watch this? Okay, I had a show in North
Carolina at the time. So I did a show in
North Carolina, and then I had to do an after party.
And I was on my way to the after party
while this was going on to Coachella. And as I'm
on way to the after party, my phone is blowing up.
But I keep ending everybody because I'm on the art score.

(44:37):
I'm trying to play. I'm trying to play my man.
I was yeah, And so my brother called me. My
older brother called me, yo, I'm what's up? You see what?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yo?

Speaker 5 (44:52):
I checked my I checked my Instagram. It's bumble bees
everywhere everywhere.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
What happened? I see it?

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Then I get to play it back and watching it? Oh, no, fucking.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
So my brother were going with it.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
Cham pushing, pushed the keys, push the kings.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Push the keys. You know, and your and your travels
and in the design of your melodies, You've you've You've
come across some other R and B singers aside from yourself,
aside from yourself, that you also thought were great in

(45:49):
developing your style. T Who's your h top five, your
top five Top Fun, You're tough, Bry saying, let's.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Sure he can't out saying all me so honest thing
that he can't out.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
Saying you man, you'll be dripping, You'll be cripping now
you do, but we are know your top.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, stop far.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
Oot fun, let's go, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah you still you still think you the kig? Yeah?
Oh t ship your top five R and B singers,
My top five R and B singers. Okay, who I

(47:20):
love R and B man, so it's kind of already
know you do.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Oh okay, I go with not in any order.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I go with Beyonce. I mean you got to do that,
you got to do that. You're gonna have some more
bes under your episode. Yeah uh, I would say av.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah oh on real quick yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Niggas don't talk enough about a yeah, cold bloody yeah
if my cold blooded Oh oh this is good. Wow,
it's nice. I will go with Keith Sweat Yeah yeah,

(48:22):
new edition.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Yeah yeah, because I'm not saying it because you hear,
because you have one of my greatest songs that you
still don't know that you do?

Speaker 1 (48:33):
You do know because I told you to sing it.
Before I go a tank. God, damn it, Come on, man,
you know what I mean. I can't make you love me.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
I remember your singing.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, I love it. I love that.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
For you to find a clip, I can't make that
song where I love that song.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Bro, I'm not gonna lie to you. I promise you.
I love that fucking song.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Brother. I don't don't know what where are you? What
you was? What was going on? Where he was at?
What part of we just left me and him? We
just left King of Diamonds for real? Yeah? Circle House,
circle House in Miami. Wow, still a little drunk. I
didn't think circle House. Listen. They make record, make records

(49:19):
and great cookies. Yeah, they make fire cookies. Wow. Yeah,
I said all the time.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
Because it's some it's something like a lot of people have,
like a lot of you know, anybody have like big
catalogs and everything in music, especially with R and B,
you know, but it's certain songs that just were like, Damn,
that's a fucking beautiful that's.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
That song right there. I always like, Damn, that's that ship.
You know, every rapper had that R and B song.
They wish that they that they that they you know,
something that was like that one, that one you.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Should read, you should remake. I can't make you let me?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yeah, that be your next easy I gotta hear. I've
seen him. I can't wait to drink. Starting to set
in you. Maybe maybe the lyric can be you can't
you can't cot me, niggas can out cut me. Trust me,

(50:30):
I'll figure it out. I know you, I know you are. Okay,
your top five R and B songs, Okay.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
R Kelly, I decided dang, I can't make you love me? Obviously,
it's one of my favorites. Beyonce, best thing I ever had.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Wow Wow ray song. Right, yeah, Charlie Wilson, I can
do magic.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Come on, uncle Charlie.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
He sweat twisted. Yeah, yeah, you know she came in
there like, but I got up the man. I got
out of the.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Wrong.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
That's when you got a great song. Yeah, nicking immediately
down the immediately.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Record. Sweat was right and own.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
It and what and they fucked it up with ls
G too, with my body l G.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
He's the prototype. Yeah, you want to be you want
to be like something in this R and B business.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
Swim I got too much and then like y'all putting
me on the spots like, damn, I gotta.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I mean it's it all changes every day. Yeah, every
time you hear you. So did you like, oh Ship
forget like it's too many? Yes, all right, here we go.
We're gonna make what's called the R and B voultron. Right,
We're going to make your super R and B artists.
So you need to decide, as we're building this artist,

(52:16):
who you want to get the vocal from, who you
want to get the performance style from, who you want
to get the styling from, and who you want to
get the passion from the heart of the artists, all
of your R and B vocalists for your super R
and B artists, your vultual You're getting the vocal from Ship.

(52:38):
This is this is good?

Speaker 5 (52:39):
All right, I'm getting a vocal well damn okay, yeah,
because I'm building the R and B artist.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
It's not okay, So I'm getting a vocal.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Man, what.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
So it can't be me? Because I'm let me think
real quick, because I'm clearly the best choice for There
is no way I could pick anybody else.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
You know, I'm getting I'm getting the vocals from Roy Carrey, Monster,
who're getting the performance style from.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
The performance stage.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
I'm getting the performance from Bobby Brown.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, who You're getting the styling from the drip.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
I'm getting the styling from I'm gonna style it from
David ruff Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Put the getting I'm getting that styllar. Yeah, custom like who,
You're getting the passion of the heart of the artists.
Who means I think I'm getting a passion from David Ruffing.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Also, I got one more for him now. And what
R and B singer would you want to steal the
record from?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Hm?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Hmm what I want to steal a record from? Whose?

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Song? Who?

Speaker 6 (54:04):
Who? Who?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Will be next? Oh? That a record that you're like,
oh yeah, I gotta get him.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
Oh, I have some ship in mind already too. It
would probably have to be Mariah Carey the next one.
I want to set this song from hit You're.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Gonna hit the notes.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Yeah, I kind of look hold on hold on ship.
He has way Oh my god, my god.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Yeah, nigga mine as well.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yeah, you're so cold? Wait can now you're so cold?
With sikes me.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
That songwriters, producers, artists on in every genre take notes,
perfect what you do and just do more of it.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, we're there, we are there. I ain't saying no names.
I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.
Ain't saying no names. We will what you did? Don't
say she I ain't saying no names.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Yeah, nigga, we've come to that part of this show.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Talk to him.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
We can't go ahead, yea, yeah, yeah, you need you
need a poet real quick. Okay, okay, So right now
we had this special segment. It's called I Ain't saying
no names? Will you tell us a story? Funny and
fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? On the journey

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in the Travels of O T Genesis. The only rule
to the game you can't say no names, no names.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
So this is funny. So I went. I went bowling.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
With this specific artist when I'm saying no names, and
he's like, let's.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Do it, let's bowl. I feel I can whoop your ass.
I feel like I could whoop your ass.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
And so me there, you know, I I had, you know,
I have my baby mama with.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Me, just girl with him chilling.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
So we're bowling. I win the first one, he won,
the second, bestie three. I want the first one. He
won the second one, and.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Ass the third.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
One, but me, I'm not the winner. That's like, I
just want one. I'm falling all over the floor.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
I'm I'm falling all over the floor. I'm screaming, I'm laughing.
I'm sitting there.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
I'm like, oh my god, I got the ball. I'm
throwing the ball down the other lane. I'm doing, I'm doing.
I'm anything that's.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
The winner that I know.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
I'm the type of winner that if you beat me
a hundred times, I beat you at once, You're gonna
feel it because I'm gonna let you hold we ever
play again after that.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
I got you. So so I'm doing all of the Waller.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
We go to the hook A lounge after we're chilling Hooker.
He's still sick. He goes I'm like yeah. He's like, Yo,
we're talking and I'm still talking about you know how
many Grammys I want? You know how many grammys I got?

Speaker 1 (58:17):
He went to the Grammys. I said, you're still lost.
So her.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
So he's talking like, but you know, I don't I
don't got that. That was a rock. I mean, you
know much breaks and so you know how much wool
coming up? You know how wool that I'm talking. So Ever,
grammy one, Yeah, it relates to someone.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
So now we get into a show where I take
your Grammys from you. I don't came out know what
you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
You went to wool talking about so now my baby mama,
she's uneasy.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
His girl is uneasy.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
We made it so weird for the girls, right, we
made it so.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Weird for the girls.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
They looking like they're apologizing to each other.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
We're going far talking about this grammy.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
I'm talking about your grammy. I don't give a about
none of that. You know, you know what I'm driving.
You know that it became a whole thing from bowling right,
And I really want to still say his name, but
I'm not gonna I take your brand because I already

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know where you went.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
I have a hundred niggas outside. Niggas wait right now,
niggas take your whole grammy. Yeah, I got the.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Won't give a funk about none of that. You talking
about you? You're talking about some grammy. I said, good,
because you fool.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
With you? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
How you get from Grand's the brickstand?

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
Because no, because because I wasn't I wasn't trying to be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I just don't want the game. But he was got
so mad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
The way you won too, You fell all over the
you come on man, accountability, accountability.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
So you get when I say he was going crazy
with the Grammy talk. Oh my god, I said, brood
a bunch of grammars. You still lost. First of all,
you're a sore loser. You lost the sore winner.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
The sore winner him a sored loser. You won't let
me do my dance. You won't let me dance on
your face like you you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
But but it's brotos So it's like, you know, it's
the drop of a dime.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
He started tripping, tripped. I want to bring up something new,
something is really important and something that I know that
you have been there they they passionate about. Yeah, autism absolutely, yeah,
can you kind of give because you know, we we
love to bring attention to causes, to you know, to

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different things that people are behind and that people support.
And a lot of people in the black community don't
talk about it a lot. Yeah, but a lot of
our families have kids, yeah who you know are dealing
with autism.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's like right now, I think
it's like one and every eight black children, black.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Little boys, black boys.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Yeah, and so yeah, it's definitely something that, you know,
something that we need to touch on. But if you don't know,
you know, autism is a neurology disorder.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
You know, and most of the kids.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
No, like with my son, my son he's thirteen now,
my oldest son, that's or something.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
He's thirteen now.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
We found out around the time he was like maybe
what like two two and a half three years old,
you know, when you call him and then like he
couldn't even the answer. Was kind of like he had
selective hearing, but he just wouldn't answer. You say his name,
his name, say his name. Figure it out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
A lot of.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
Parents to this day, right, it's they're in denial. I
was about to you know what I mean, And they
don't want to get there, you know, they don't want
to get their kids checked or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Find out they hid him the spectrum. It's kind of like, no,
he's not.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
That or that, but they don't a lot of women
don't have women or men don't have the information.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
They don't know what autism is.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
And it's best to get your you know, your child
checked early at an early age because mom my son
is he's he's not severe, but a lot of that
at being that we were on it early, early, early, early, early, early,
and and it was the sad part about it is

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my my son's mom.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
I'm not saying this is the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
Sad part, but the sad part about life. And like people,
my son's mom, I was in a position to where
I can make sure that she didn't have to work,
because it's it gets crazy when both parents have to
still make money for the household and one is going
and one is going, and so it's like just sending
them to speech therapy is okay, cool, but you still

(01:03:37):
need to work on your child at home every day.
And a lot of a lot of kids don't have
done because my mommy got to go this way, Daddy
got to go this way, and then we got to
pick up the child, and so some of those and
then also at the same time, mommy and daddy's probably
tired from working, and so now the child is not
getting all the help that he needs in order to

(01:03:59):
you know, to become you know better, And.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
You know, like I had, my.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
Son's mom was She's always there, She's all about my son,
she's all over my son, she's all over my son.
It's not about like this steam words. So yeah, we're
gonna have fun and we'll run around to the club.
And my investment is making sure my child is you know,
is everything he needs, you know what I mean, because
at the end of the day, there is going to
be a time where we, you know, God willing, you know,

(01:04:32):
we die before our kids do, you know, and it's
gonna be a time where they're left here, you know.
And I was told a story from this one kid,
and he's autistic, but he's you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Know, he's better now.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
But he was saying, like you know, at a younger ages,
like especially with the tantrums and everything that they throw.
He he knew what he wanted to say, the words
just wouldn't come out of his mouth. And that's what
made him more frustrated and more frustrated and more frustrated
and more frustrating.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
You see all this, you know, to act out exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
But I think that us as parents, black parents, white, like,
we just have to pay attention to our kids, you know,
and stay there, stop being in denial because all that
time you're being in now your child is losing from
becoming better.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
All that shit is repetition time is of the essence
when you talk about autism. Yeah, you know what I mean,
like really being able to get into those because now
now that we've identified it, you know, as a society
and even medically, it's on a whole other level now
to where there there's so many programs, so many different
whether it be schooling and whether it be like even

(01:05:57):
gathering places where they can have fun with other kids
that are like them, right right, there's so many things
in place now. But it goes back to that one
thing you said, you have to pay attention to your
kid and get them to help early or you're gonna
miss the window because being because you know, we like
obviously we're human, we're human.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
So you go, oh damn, like you know, and they
because you see somebody in the denial, You're like, no,
you got to understand what that is, you know, And
and no matter what, you know, God sat here for you.
You have to take that and go, Okay, this is
what I'm gonna deal with, you know, And and that's
that's your job as a I see too many parents

(01:06:38):
personally and they're.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Like oh yeah, yeah and brush it off.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
Yeah, the son is you know, obviously behavior is really
really bad.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Everything is really really bad.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
And I'm not saying because because they're autistic, but because
they also don't have to help. So you go year
for year for year that child still hasn't improved because us,
you know, that parent is like, well, we're just let
the school deal with it, though, We're just let you know,
you have to stay on top of your child.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
My son right now, he's he he was.

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
Obviously it was like special classes, but now it's half
and half, you know, so now he's in general and
especial when he has straight a's. You know, my son,
he's like he's sharp. He's like a super genius, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
But most of times that's what it is. Though.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
Yeah, they it's crazy because they lack. They lack the
things that we're great at, and then we lack the
things that they're great at.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
And they're really great at whatever that yeah, super yeah,
So whether it be a communication thing with them or
them or but but when when they're when they're down
into what I always say is their purpose because I
feel like autistic, you know, a lot of autism is
like a hyper focus on on a true design and

(01:08:10):
sometimes it's about identifying what that is once once somebody
you know, in an autistic space find that thing.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Yeah yeah, magic, yeah, great kids.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Magic.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I just wanted to I wanted to bring us stuf
because I just know, you know how how much of
an advocate that you are for and you know it,
and it's to me, it's not brought up enough in
our community right right, And it happened knowing how much
it affects it happening to us, right, so you know,
and just like you said, I think this conversation just
hopefully it brings some awareness to someone who may have

(01:08:46):
a young child that they're trying to figure it out.
It's like, right, go now, right, get them checked so
that you can get in front of it right and
that you can really help the child right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I appreciate that, no problem. That's really dope. Brother. Yeah. Well,
ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank. This is the
R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things,
All things, the R and B Touches. Yeah, yeah, we
love you, brother, We appreciate you man. Your energy, it's everything, man,

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and we pray that you know, when people watch this
and people see this man, that they if they don't
take nothing else man that they just figure out.

Speaker 6 (01:09:27):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
I was just have a good time exactly. Have a
good time, exactly. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, write it,
sing it, produce it, rapp it. Whatever you do.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
Have a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
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