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April 7, 2025 45 mins

American Sunrise Early Edition on Real America's Voice

Segment 1: ROUGH WEATHER WEEKEND

Segment 2: STORMS, FLOODING HIT HARD

Segment 3: MORE STOCK PAIN TODAY

Segment 4: DEMS USED TO BE PRO-TARIFF

Segment 5: TRUMP AND BIBI TO MEET AGAIN 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ahead on American Sunrise Early Edition. Don't look down. The
stock markets are set for another steep drop when trading
resumes in about two and a half hours. But President
Trump urges Americans to stay strong as he believes his
tariffs will strengthen the American economy. But not everyone inside
the White House is following the same playbook. Elon Musk

(00:23):
and top Trump advisor Peter Navarro don't agree on how
far the tarriffs should go and how long they will last.
But not to worry, they say, it's just a healthy debate.
Thousands of Americans came out this weekend to attend so
called hands off protests against President Trump and Elon Musk,
but it's not clear what they want and what they

(00:43):
don't want them to touch. In fact, it's not clear
what they wanted at all. American Sunrise Early Edition starts now.
Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith, freedom,
and the values that built the nation take centers. Your good,
thieves and baddies. That's how we're gonna judge you. Join

(01:05):
host Jake novak Is he breaks down the stories that matter.
We will be letting the public know regularly what we have.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Found American Sunrise earlier edi year with your host Jake Novak, starts.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Now, Welcome everyone to a new week. It is going
to be a busy one. I'm Jake Novak. This is
American Sunrise early edition. Joining me now is Daily Signal
executive editor Rob Louis. Rob, it's gonna be a rough
open for the stock markets again this morning, although I
should note we were down fourteen hundred points on the

(01:39):
now overnight it's now seven hundred points. I know that
still doesn't look back great to a lot of people,
but something maybe up here or maybe not, maybe just
some of the sellers decided to sleep in. But look, look, Rob,
we know the bankers and the brokers don't like these tariffs.
Not just for one minute, but what's your take on
how main Street is reacting to all of this so far?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Sure well, Jake, good morning to you. And I think
that that is the question on everyone's mind, probably most
importantly those staffers working in the White House and President Trump,
because you know, a remarkable thing about Donald Trump from
that moment that he entered politics in twenty fifteen, is
that he's always had the little guy, or the working
American top of mind, and I think that he's obviously

(02:24):
been able to have great success appealing to that group
of individuals because they recognize that the system is broken
and he's doing things to try to change it. Now,
as so many people have said, there might be some
short term pain before we see some of those long
term gains in terms of jobs returning to the United States,
the trade and balance wiped away. But in this meantime, yes,

(02:45):
I mean, I think it's important for main Street to
have faith that Donald Trump knows what he's doing. And
even as we have these debates among economists and others
in Wall Street, you know sees the Dow tumble, we
have to remember that this system is not working as
it should. Families are suffering, We're paying far more today
as a result of the government spending spree that Joe

(03:07):
Biden went on. It is going to take some work
and some time to fix things.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, I think that that's what most of Main
Street is willing to listen to for now. I think
it's been a bipartisan issue about trying to get more
blue collar jobs back into this country, more things made
in this country. And the reason why I say bipartisan
rob is because it's funny to see the Democrats uniformly
not only oppose these tariffs but stand up for Wall
Street billionaires. I mean that you've probably seen on social media.

(03:36):
For those of you who haven't, you can easily find it.
You can see video after video of some of the
biggest named Democrats, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Standers, Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer,
just some of them talking about how they're in favor
of tariffs, talking about how the trade balance against the
United States is impossible. They all sound like what Trump
is saying just a few years ago. But I've never

(03:57):
seen them fired up like they are for these Wall
Street bankers today ever. I mean, you would think that
they were a trans trendio agua, a member who's trying
to play for the Washington Bullets or something. I don't
know what's going.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
On here, Jake. It is remarkable. I remember back in
the two thousands, and obviously even before then, when Democrats
one of their most potent attacks was this billionaires for Bush.
I mean, they went after the Republican Party and its
ties to Wall Street almost daily, and you've had a
complete flip. Now it's the Republican Party that's looking out

(04:30):
for the little guy, the working class American. It's the
Democrats who are looking out for those big interest special interests,
Wall Street types. And you see it in the political
campaign donations. I mean, it's no wonder. Just follow the
money and you can understand why Democrats are taking the
position that they are. Almost uniformly, you're correct that Democrats
have come out and opposed exactly what President Trump has done.

(04:53):
The one exception seems to be the delegation from Michigan,
which I think recognizes the problems in that state with
manufactur in the fact that a lot of those good
paying jobs at automotive automobile factories have disappeared overseas. And
so I don't know ultimately where the Democratic Party lands
on this. In the past, they've obviously been more supportive
of things like tariffs, but again, they struggled deeply in

(05:18):
the twenty twenty four election with this very constituency of
working class Americans. And that's why you people had people
like Bernie Sanders come out and say, look, the party's
lost its way. We need to figure out how to
get back on track.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, but Sanders is still sticking up for Wall Street
on this season yes, sars now it makes it. You know, listen,
it's one of the things I listen whether they deserved
it or not, and I think and I would make
the argument that they didn't. But if they deserved it
or now. The Democrats were very successful in branding themselves
as the party for the little guy, for the poor people,
not for the richest people around, and they've lost that branding.

(05:53):
It isn't just because of Donald Trump. It's also because
of their obsession with Hollywood issues, going too far, on
the environment, going too far, things like boys and girls,
locker rooms, all that kind of stuff. And now it's
coming home to roost. And it's amazing to me. They
had this one last chance to say, hey, you know what,
on this, we're going to go with Trump, and they aren't.
And they're and they're going and they're literally crying for

(06:13):
Wall Street. It's incredible, Okay, Rob. The mainstream news media
tells us that a million, billion trillion people stormed out
of their homes this weekend to protest for Donald Trump
and Elon must They called it the hands Off protests.
I looked at the protesters and most of them looked
like senior citizens who were definitely angry, but perhaps confused.

(06:34):
Should the president and Elon must be worried or should
someone call and report elder abuse? Because that really felt
like what that's this was this weekend?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Well, well, I encourage your audience to go to the
Daily Signal and check out some of the signs that
that are our team captured in the Washington, DC version
of that protest. And and yeah, I think, as you
see not only in articles like that and in the
news coverage of what happened over the course of the weekend,
a couple of things top of mind. Number one, there

(07:02):
were individuals who didn't clearly understand why they were even there.
I think that this Trump hatred is driving most of it.
They're not actually standing up for something, which is a
stark contrast for the Tea Party movement in two thousand
and nine, when there was a clear direction among those
protesters that they wanted to see smaller government, more limited government.
In this particular case, I think it's a hodgepodge of ideas. Yes,

(07:25):
maybe there were some seniors who turned out because they
felt that social Security benefits were a jeopardy, which, by
the way, has Donald Trump been more consistent about anything
since he entered the political frame than the fact that
he won't touch social Security benefits. So I don't understand
why people will get so worked up about that particular issue.
But then yes, any number of left wing causes you
see on display or represented in these signs, Jake and

(07:48):
I don't necessarily think that they connect with the American people,
in part because a lot of these issues that are
embraced by the far radical left, Conservatives have a huge
advantage on when it comes to the polling issue, and
so I'm not necessarily sure where all this energy will
ultimately lead. Obviously, they had a big win in the
Wisconsin Supreme Court race, but they also dumped a lot

(08:09):
of money into those Florida congressional seats last week and
they lost both of them. So you know, it's a
mixed bag on the part of Democrats and those on
the left.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I think that this has continued to happen since Trump's
first term. They can get a decent crowd out there,
and I give them credit for that. That's not the
easiest thing to do. It's still a little bit chilly
out there and rainy in a lot of parts of
the country. I give them credit for that absolutely, but
they lacked their inability to articulate a single message. They
were trying to a chant called hands off our Constitution.

(08:38):
These are the people who have been waging war on
the Constitution for a very long time. These are the
ones who tell us the Constitution was written by white
slave men, slave owners. I mean it, really, they just
don't have that kind of consistent messaging. No wonder people
are confused. I think they did frighten a bunch of
elderly Americans into thinking something was going to happen with
their social security and I think when they realized that

(08:59):
that actually hasn't happen and they've been getting their checks
or their deposits, they didn't know what they were doing
out there. But maybe they met some nice new young
people and talked about knitting. All right. Finally, Rob your
fine publication. The Daily Signal has a new piece out
about how the mainstream media has been really pushing tirelessly
to try to get everyone to accept the idea and
mainstream the idea of boys and girls' locker rooms even

(09:21):
older than boys just basically trans athletes, and really trying
to mainstream it. I mean, you look at every poll
and a very very strong majority of the American people
aren't going for it. So you could say, hey, this
campaign isn't working. But at the same time, you can say, well,
and now you see why they're trying to do it.
They're trying to push back. I mean, they're trying to
really push that boulder up the hill. I wonder if
you can tell us some of the things that really

(09:43):
stood out to you in this particular piece.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Absolutely, and my colleague Peter Parisi there, who you have
on screen, decided that he wanted to document this because,
I mean, it is just the bias that you see
in the news media on this issue, particularly at the
Washington Post being one of the examples that he cites
in the story, is just consistent. And it has been
that way for probably the last decade. It was about

(10:07):
ten years ago then we started to see this trend
of really pushing this idea of transgenderism to be a
mainstream issue. And I think what President Trump has done
with his executive order banning men from competing in girls'
sports is probably one of the most popular things that
he's accomplished in these less than one hundred days as president.
And that's because I think that even if you are

(10:29):
a Democrat, you recognize the inherent unfairness. Now, this does
not translate though, when it comes to media coverage. We've
found consistently, including in this article, that the news media
will take the side of those transgender athletes, even if
it means that there are women who are losing out
on opportunities. And we've covered so many of these stories

(10:50):
at the Daily Signal, Jake, that is just really it's
truly sad that they are missing out on scholarships, they're
missing out on metals, they're missing out even you know,
frankly competing in finals because they don't make the cut
because there's a male athlete who takes that spot. And
so I don't expect this to change in terms of
the news coverage. I think that this is why Americans
are probably tuning out a lot of these publications and

(11:11):
looking for alternatives like yours and ours.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, And the thing that really strikes me is that
this has to be a coordinated effort. When you see
that the people aren't accepting it for year after year
after year, and you're still pushing it. I smell a rat,
I smell cutter. I smell some other people who are
paying these organizations, either directly or indirectly to take this
unpopular stance. But it's actually not unpopular with the New
York Jets. They've embraced the whole idea of taking a

(11:35):
disadvantage and losing and loving that. So other than the Jets,
I don't think anyone's loving this. Rob Leuie, thanks so
much for joining us, and have a great week.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Thanks Jake, you too.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
All right, coming up, we always knew that Iran was
at least indirectly responsible for the October seventh Commas attacks
on Israel, but now we have evidence it wasn't just direct,
it was on demand. But leave it to people like
Chuck Schumer to think there are enough New Yorkers and
others who are completely uninformed about a shameful record on

(12:08):
Iran and anti Semitism. Unfortunately for him and his moronic
staffers who texted me yesterday, I'm not one of them.
I'll share the whole story with you when American Sunrise
early edition comes right back. That's the Dallas skyline this morning.

(12:40):
You know it's not Wall Street, but they're looking at
oil prices going down below sixty bucks overnight. I think
we're right at sixty dollars right now. I bet you
that's what everyone in Dallas is talking about right now. Yeah,
there we go, oh sixty forty nine. Thank you controlling
for throwing that up. We're gonna be showing you that
every once in a while. Close your eyes if you
don't like to see it. Although actually it's better than
it was overnight. We were at fourteen down overnight on

(13:00):
the Dow futures. Now it's seven sixty eight, so we've
kind of cut that in half. I don't know if
that trend's going to continue, but it's better if it
showed a few hours ago, it would have been worse.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
All right.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition. I'm Jake Novak.
Thank you so much for joining me, especially those watching
and commenting. We allow comments. This is an interactive program
on Getter and Rumble. After a series of massive rainstorms
and even tornadoes ripping across much of the Southwest and
south and the Midwest, not the Southwest, the South and
the Midwest over the weekend, forecasters say flooding could persist

(13:30):
for days as torrential rains linger over many states, including Kentucky, Tennessee,
and Alabama. Tornadoes are still possible in Alabama, Georgia and Florida.
Be careful out there, it has been Some people are
calling it once in a generation storms. Feels like we
get them all the time. But they say these were
very intense, all right?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Is really?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Defense Minister esra Al Katz revealed the document yesterday showing
that Hamas requested five hundred million dollars from Iran back
in twenty twenty one, promising to use the money to
destroy Israel by twenty twenty three. Of course, that money
was indeed used to plan and carry out the massive
terrorist attack on October seventh, twenty twenty three. As the

(14:10):
primary sponsor for Ramas. For decades, it was always known
that Tehran at least indirectly planned and funded October seventh,
but this much of a blatant and direct Iranian involvement
was not publicly known until now. Now that brings me
to this surprising text message I got from New York
Senator and Senate Democrat Leader Chuck Schumer yesterday. It tells

(14:33):
me that I should thank Chuck Schumer for standing up
for the Jewish community and standing up for Israel against
Bernie Sanders or something like that. Well, folks, this really
really got me. Chuck Schumer is a huge reason why
the Iran deal happened, why Iran had that five hundred
million dollars and a lot more to give Ramas you
might remember back in twenty fifteen, Schumer voted against the

(14:55):
Iran deal, but work behind the scenes to allow the
other Democrats in his head caucus, especially Kirsten gillibrand his
fellow switor from New York and people like Cororey Booker.
He allowed them to vote for the deal. He could
have held it up, he didn't. In other words, he's
a huge reason why the Iran deal happened, and then
worse when all the anti Semitic attacks started happening on

(15:16):
the college campuses last year and the year before. It
has now documented that Chuck Schumer told Columbia, told Harvard
told some of those universities don't do anything because only
the Republicans care about anti Semitism. There is the Yiddish
word for someone who acts like that. It's called chutzpa.
The guy has tremendous nerve to send text messages all
over New York asking Jewish voters and people who support

(15:38):
Israel to thank him, thank him for what He's a
huge reason why October seventh happened. His betrayal is historic,
and I'm not going to let him get away with it. Hey,
Chuck Schumer staffers, don't send me any text messages anymore.
You guys need to update your mailing list, all right?
Coming up? Prince had that great hit years ago, when
Doves Cry. I remember that song. What does it sound

(16:00):
like when Wall Street cries? It sounds a lot like
what you've been hearing the last few days. You're gonna
hear about it more in the hour or so, or
I guess two hours or so. When the markets open.
I'll have the latest on the futures and where they're
looking at in just a moment. And Chrysler Jeep and
Dodge Parents Delantis of that four company, Stilantis. It's following
Ford's footsteps in response to the tariffs. Don't go into

(16:22):
the dealer until you find out more when American Sunrise
Early Edition continues right now. Neighborhood ballparks are the best.

(16:48):
Put them in neighborhoods. Please don't put them off an
exit ramp on a highway. Wrigleyfield Fenway Park, Wriggley is
the best of the neighborhood parks. You just need to
see that whole area around Wriggleyfield if you've never been there.
The entire neighborhood dedicated to it. In the summer, it
is so much fun. Here's something that it's not so
much fun. Let's take a look at where the markets
are going to begin today. Hey, actually, look at this.

(17:08):
We're only only six hundred and fifty two points down
on the Dow futures right now. Now I'm not joking. We
were down more than fourteen hundred points overnight on the Dow.
So I think that some bargain hunters are coming in.
They're looking at the prices of some of these stocks
and saying, I can't keep my hands off of that.
But look at gold. Gold is up this morning. It
is only down a very little bit since this whole

(17:30):
tariff thing started. I'll talk more about gold in a moment,
but you gotta love that. And I also love to
seeing crude oil prices Sorry Dallas, sorry Houston. I like
seeing crude oil prices down that there because I want
to see my gas prices go down even more. But
I know it'll come back. Now, let's look at bitcoin.
Bitcoin has not been immune from all of this. It
is all the way down to the seventy seven thousand

(17:50):
dollars mark. But again, if you're one of those people
who thinks that bitcoin's going to two hundred thousand a million,
this is a buying opportunity. If you have the money
to buy, don't go use your credit card, don't borrow
from your brother. But you get my point. So the
cryptocurrency is also taking a hit, not so much as
bad as the rest of the markets, though. All right, Well,
at least we know the Trump team really does believe

(18:13):
in free speech. White House Counselor to the President Peter
Navarro and Elon Musk expressed some differing opinions let's just
say about Taris yesterday, and they included a Musk jab
about Navarro's alma mater. Musk talked about how Navarro went
to grad school at Harvard, and he brought up a
quote about how every bad policy in America has somebody
from Harvard connected to it. I'm in favor of Harvard bashing,

(18:36):
but clearly there is definitely some disagreement in this cabinet.
Howard Lutnik also has different things to say about taris.
The clarity on the tariffs is completely clear to the
companies and to the importers and exporters. But for Wall Street,
they're looking for some clarity. I think they're going to
get it in the coming weeks. I can't believe this
is going to stay the way it is for very long.
As soon as we get some trade deals made, that's

(18:57):
when I think we'll start seeing some positives in the market.
But you know what, again, a little bit of pain.
That's what President Trump's talking about. All right, here's a
story you may have missed. With all of the tarre
off tumult dominating the news, President Trump did indeed expand
the deadline for TikTok to either sell itself off to
a non Chinese government controlled owner or shut down completely.

(19:18):
That deadline was supposed to be Saturday. The White House
gave TikTok, the parent company of TikTok It's a Chinese
company called Byte Dance, an additional seventy five days to
seal a deal. There are reports that President Trump is
hoping to make a new trade deal with China that
would include something about TikTok. So in other words, any
kind of trade deal with China will have a TikTok

(19:39):
deal put into it. And listen, TikTok is a very
valuable property. Don't laugh that that would be part of
a whole international trade deal because it is that influential
and it is that valuable. Love it or hate it,
I don't know if I love it or hate it.
Sometimes I like it, sometimes I hate it. But it
is worth a lot of money and powerful. I'm not
denying that, all right. They told us those big protest
rallies against President Trump elon Musk Saturday were about well

(20:02):
what were they about exactly? Something about telling Musk and
Trump to take their hands off the constitution, something like that.
That didn't really make sense. Our David Zeer went out
to talk to some of those demonstrators on Long Island,
and let's just say he didn't encounter the most air
udet of individuals all day. Here's one interaction.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
You don't think the federal government's bloated.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
It could be, but from what you think.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Government is bloated over a private sector?

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Private sector business is onwn tolerate.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Ways, so they would go out of business. What about
the post office? They lose like what twelve billion a years.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Certainly that organization is self funded.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Well yeah, self fund still really is self government centric.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
But yeah, I got it.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Again, that's your opinion.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, health post Office has been around for him in
the beginning, from the seventeen hundred. Yeah, so it's not
very efficient. Uh, fact check. The Post Office is not
self funded. That's the lie they keep telling us over
and over again. The Post office biggest liability, in other words,
the biggest bill they have to pay every single day

(21:06):
is their pensions, and the federal government pays those pensions.
To say that the Post Office is self funded is
like saying my eleventh grader is self funded, which because
she buys her own lunch at school. That's the most
ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I'm so tired of that lie,
and you can see how many people are brainwashed by it.
Breaking point with David Zeer. God to give them a
lot of credit for going out there and talking to

(21:26):
those folks. That airs every Saturday, eight am Eastern time
here on Real America's Voice. Okay, time to clear our
heads and let's take a drive. Well, so much for

(21:47):
the International labor movement. The Canadian branch of the UAW
it's known as unifor by the way, I don't know
if I like that name. They have officially come out
stating that they are opposed to the Trump tariffs. That's
despite the very strong support those same tariffs have from
the UAW here in the United States. It looks like

(22:09):
the old union solidarity slogan might soon be changed to
every man for himself. All kidding aside, this is one
of my biggest problems with unions now. In the days
before we had personal injury lawyers and labor lawyers, I
really think we had a need for unions in this
country just to protect the safety and well being of workers.
But you know, I don't know if you've turned on

(22:29):
the TV or listen to the radio lately, there are
lawyers literally begging people who have been heard at work
in any way whatsoever to call them. So I'm not
so sure we need unions for that anymore. We also
have a problem with unions in that they put a
ceiling over how much you can achieve if you're a
really great worker, and a basement under how much you
can be punished or gotten rid of if you're a
really terrible worker. And we're seeing what's going on right now.

(22:51):
If you're an American worker working here in the United States,
you are part of an international union that has people
who are just as happy to see your job go
away and go to their country. This doesn't make sense.
Unions as they exist today don't make sense for the workers,
don't make sense for young people who might want to
get into a trade. Have said this over and over again,
and this latest rift between the UAW here and the

(23:13):
United States and their brothers in Canada and Uniform is
just another example. This doesn't work. We need to find
a new way to help our workers, not only train them,
but then protect them. The lawyer's got the protection part.
Now let's work on the training part, all right. The
big auto company management, however, is being pretty together on this.
There's solidarity in the Detroit c suites, at least when

(23:35):
it comes to certain pricing. Now, last week I told
you about how Forward announced that it was going to
extend employee pricing discounts to everyone, you and me, anyone
else who walks in that dealership as a way to
defray the added costs of the tariffs. In fact, some
people calculated that the employee pricing discount will completely negate
the added prices that some tariffs would have added to

(23:55):
Ford cars, So you're not getting any discount, but you're
avoiding that added cost. So now the parent company of Chrysler,
Jeep and Dodge, that's a company called Stilantis, is doing
the same thing. Now with Stilantis, your discounts may vary
because they have many more cars and trucks that are
susceptible to the tariff byite than FOD does. In other words,

(24:16):
they have a lot of other cars and trucks that
are made overseas or have massive amounts of parts overseas.
So you're still gonna get some relief from the tariff
added on price, but not as much as Ford. So again,
choose wisely. In my neighborhood here on Long Island, this
entire area, they love Jeep. I don't think they would
ever sit in the Chrysler or even look at a
Dodge Ram unless they were working in a blue collar job.

(24:38):
And there are a lot of people like that here
on Long Island. But the average car buyer, vehicle buyer
here on Long Island only buys Jeeps, and they're probably
getting some sticker shock right now. If they wanted to
buy something for the spring and summer. All right, in
the age of the Internet, massive oceans between truck fans
and the trucks they want just aren't enough, because the
Internet shows us what we want. It has been just

(24:59):
a few months since US fans of the Ford Ranger
truck saw the video this video of the new Ford
Rangers Super Duty model that's only available in Australia right now. Well, now,
fans of that stronger model here in the US want
to see it sold here in the US, with one
Gearhead magazine even calling Ford cowards for not doing so. Hey, Ford,

(25:20):
give the people what they want. This is a bad,
bad truck man in a good way. I mean that
in a good way. It is a bad truck and
people want it all right. Now, for the dark side
of car ownership, I hate this story, but I also
love it. The owner of a twenty twenty four Kia
EV six wind and yes that is an electric car
is suing Kiya parent Hyundai now because he's had to

(25:41):
have his cars twelve volt battery replaced four times, just
forty five hundred miles into his ownership. Four times. He's
hoping to use several states in this country, which is
called a lemon law. He's hoping to use that lemon
law as part of his lawsuit. Now, most kia EV's
delivered in the United States come stand with a traditional
lead asset twelve vault battery rather than the AGM battery

(26:05):
that stands for absorbed glass matter batteries glass map batteries.
They're generally considered to be far superior. So maybe kia
wants to make that change now before another guy sues
him for having to replace his battery four times. It's
called caveat m tour. Everybody buyer, beware all right, tariff wars,
recession fears, stubborn inflation. No wonder gold has been routinely

(26:27):
hitting all time highs and volatile markets like right now.
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developments when American Sunrise Early edition comes right back. It's Monday,

(27:53):
April seventh. Here this morning's top stories. Don't look down.
The soup markets are set for another steep drop when
trading resumes in at two hours, but President Trump urges
Americans to stay strong because he believes his tariffs will
strengthen the American economy. Overall, thousands of Americans came out
this weekend to attend so called hands off protests against

(28:14):
President Trump and Elon Musk. But it's not clear what
they wanted them not to touch. In fact, it's not
clear what they wanted at all. A new document proves
Iran directly paid Hamas five hundred million dollars to carry
out the October seventh attacks. Is this revelation yet another
precursor to some kind of strike against Tehran? And a

(28:35):
new document proves Iran paid Amas five hundred million dollars,
like I said, to carry that out? Hey, is this
something else that we could be worried about in the
coming days? You know where the big stories are. The
markets are looking ugly. Let's take a look at where
the markets are starting this morning. It looks bad. I'm

(28:56):
going to give you that that little bit of a precursor.
We are looking at now seven hundred and fourteen points
down on the Dow as we get started. It was
much worse overnight. We were at fourteen hundred down at
the I think the hype maybe even sixteen hundred down overnight.
But again, look at gold. Gold is up and that
should tell you something. That's really the only safe haven,
and the silver usually goes up when gold goes up,

(29:17):
so of course silver a little bit less so, but
look at that. Those are interesting numbers. All right, Sorry
for that little fumbled open there. Everyone, Welcome back to
American Sunrise Early Edition. I'm Jake Novak. You guys have
your heads on much straighter than mine right now, I'm sure.
And joining me now is professor and published writer Sierra Clair.
And Sierra, these are interesting times, to say the least

(29:38):
for the American economy. What's your impression of the panic
that we're seeing from Wall Street? And I would still
say it's relative calm on Main Street, but I wonder
what you're seeing and what you're hearing.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Yeah, thanks for having me.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
You know, I focus a lot on national security, and
so when I'm hearing people talking about these tariffs, I
really was paying attention to what Secretary Besent said last week,
which is that this is a national security issue, and
in that way, I think people can be comforted because
this is ultimately a good thing. Obviously, right now we're

(30:14):
going through a rough patch with the stock markets, but
I think that especially on Main Street, people are feeling like,
you know, we're getting back to some security we didn't
have you know, as we saw during COVID, we didn't
have the capacity to manufacture things like life saving medicines,

(30:35):
and so I think that is going to be, you know,
something that really assures people and hopefully gets us through
this rough patch. I would also say that, you know,
to people who are crying about their stocks and these
rich Democrats who you know are coming out against tariffs,

(30:55):
the Democrats spent one hundred and seventy five billion American
tax payer dollars on a so called national security issue
called Ukraine, and we.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Still don't know where a lot of that money went.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
So, you know, in my mind, I'm feeling like, you know,
when I hear these people that are coming out and
trying to create panic over this, I say crimea river
because you know, until you've lost personally one hundred and
seventy five billion dollars, because that's what was taken out
of the American economy, and that's what was taken from

(31:29):
the American people.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, I'll do you one better, Sierra, because you're talking
about the Democrats. The Democrats, as you say, uniformly against
these terrorists. I understand there's some members of the Michigan
delegation who are at least being quiet about it. But
just about every other Democrat elected is against these terrorists,
and they are singing a very different tune not that
long ago. I want you to check out this series
of just a few sound bites from big time Democrats,

(31:54):
and I want to get your comments on the other side.

Speaker 8 (31:56):
Check it out right now, we have a thirty four
billion dollar trade death.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
Sit for with China.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
The nineteen ninety five figure, it will be over forty
billion dollars for nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Since the Tenement Square.

Speaker 8 (32:09):
Massacre, this figure has increased one thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
We need to.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Not worry about manufacturing in America because what we should
establish is a policy of unfitted free trade.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
We don't need tariffs.

Speaker 9 (32:27):
What we need is to allow corporate America the freedom,
the freedom to throw American work is out on the street.
People are making fifteen twenty twenty five bucks an hour,
healthcare pensions. Throw them out on the street because somehow,
man of President, we are going to create wealth in
America and good paying jobs in America. As we shut

(32:47):
down plans, we moved to China corporations there, hey workers
twenty thirty cents an hour, and we bring the product
back into this country.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
It's also proper for advanced economies like the United States
and swift on resciprosily formations like China that are no
longer solely poor countries to make sure that they're providing
access to their markets and that they stop taking intellectual
property and having a service.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I mean, are they now President Trump's speechwriters? I mean Pelosi, Sanders, Obama, Gcierra?
What what changed? What changed?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean?

Speaker 5 (33:27):
This is classic Democrats.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
First of all, they don't really have core beliefs, they
have soundbites. So it's not surprising they've flipped the script
on tariffs just because Trump is doing them now.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
You know.

Speaker 7 (33:39):
But more importantly, I would say this shift fits into
the overall narrative that the Democrat Party has adopted in
recent years, which is that they have such a disdain
for the American worker, you know, working class Americans. That's
what this overreaction to the tariffs really comes down to,
is that this is a good economic policy for working

(34:00):
Americans and the Democrats can't stand that for whatever reason.
So they really don't like half the country and they
don't even bother to hide it anymore. And that's why
their approval rating is now at an abysmal twenty one percent.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
You know, I think some of this. You know, you
talked about the disdain, and I do think that there's
something related to this that has nothing to do with economics.
You have a Democratic elected party leaders who have been
calling so many voters in this country, including people who
voted for Barack Obama twice for president, calling them racists,
calling them bigots, calling them insensitive and hurtful and even

(34:41):
murderous for not supporting boys and girls' locker rooms, or
not supporting every single DEI program, and basically just absolutely
denigrating the voters. And listen, the rules and politics have
been the same for a long time. You can say
the nastiest stuff you want about the people running for
office and the elected leaders. But somewhere around twenty sixteen,
with the deplorables comment from Hillar Clinton, the Democrats started

(35:01):
to actually bash the other side's voters. By the way,
don't ever do that. And here's where you have what's
going on here. I think that there are a lot
of people voting and more importantly elected Democrats who don't
like those people are who have been hurt by the
trade and balance, and so they're having a hard time
standing up for them. So it's not just because of Trump.
It's not because they just say whatever Trump says is wrong.

(35:23):
It's also because what you said, I think that they
have disdain for that middle of the country. Listen, you
can't call people a bunch of racist and bigots for
too long before you really start to hate them. Well,
speaking of people who come out and hate, we saw
those hands off protests in a number of cities over
the weekend. The numbers were big. And the reason why
I give them credit because I think there were a
lot of paid for protesters. A couple of people on

(35:45):
the Getter chat reminding me that of that, and they're
exactly right. But hey, they put their money and they
got people to show up. Sometimes you can pay for
people to show up and they still don't show up.
But I get that they don't like President Trump. I
get that they personally don't like Elon Musk. But other
than their disdain those two guys, I didn't detect a
real coherent message, did you.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
Yeah, I really didn't. Didn't understand what this protest was about.
I mean, this hands off title is very unclear. There
have been no rights that have been taken away. So,
you know, in my mind, and I think in many Americans' minds,
these people have lost credibility. Their their message doesn't make

(36:28):
any sense. And they also they have used, as you mentioned,
these strategies of you know, bussing people in, having paid protesters,
So I think they really lost a lot of credibility
by doing that, and you know, using these protests to
stoke division and hatred.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
And the other thing I would say is that.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
You know, recent polls show that seventy five percent of
Americans do support dog So that's another reason that really
makes you wonder, why are what are these people even
talking about?

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yeah, these protests?

Speaker 7 (37:06):
You know, have you seen some of these videos online
of this cringe, fake acting.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
This is twenty twenty five and nobody's buying it.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Well, you know, they were also for as far as
people coming out, even on a weekend, they were a
much older crowd. And so what I think happened is,
in addition to being some people who were paid to
show up there, I think that a message went around,
either by text message or by email or word of
mouth that something was happening to social Security, that your
social Security check wasn't going to come. Of course, that's

(37:36):
not true. That's probably what motivated these people in their
sixties and their seventies to come out. In some places
the weather wasn't that great, but where the weather was good,
they had some big crowds. It sounds like, Sierra, this
was a big misinformation campaign. And so when they finally
got out on the streets and couldn't claim that they've
been missing any social Security checks lately, they were confused.

(37:57):
I hope someone got them home safely. That's all I
can say. But Sierra, all joking aside, we did get
something meaningful this weekend, Israel's defense ministry. You so for all.
Katz produced the document showing that Iran got a request
from Hamas back in twenty twenty one for five hundred
million dollars, and Kamas said that they would destroy Israel

(38:17):
if they got that money by twenty twenty three. Sure enough,
October seventh, twenty twenty three, they tried to destroy all
of Israel. They got a lot further than anyone thought.
They could have a pretty the most devastating attack terrorist attack,
as far as numbers are concerned, in history. But my goodness,
how do you expect the Trump administration to respond to
something like this. This is a direct document. This isn't

(38:39):
just oh, world, we'll help you and back you up.
This is here's the money, go do this.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
This is pretty bad, Yes, this report is pretty bad.
I mean, this is you know, a clear and present danger,
an attack on democracy. And you know, the through Biden's appeasement,
the sanctions against Iran were lifted, and Iran has I mean,
the Iranian regime made close to one hundred billion dollars

(39:03):
from oil sales during the Biden years, and so that
built up their influences and their military capabilities through their
proxy groups throughout the region. And you know, honestly, we
don't even know the true figure of some of that
because our government was so dysfunctional under the Biden administration
that a lot of the sanctions that were on the
books weren't being enforced consistently.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
You know.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
So Trump has brought back the maximum pressure campaign, and
that is a crucial first step. So I think they're
I think they're doing very well with that. I mean,
they were left a mess and and they're doing very
well and cleaning it up so far. But this is
you know, the classic Democrat foreign policy playbook that we've

(39:46):
seen over and over again with Obama and then Biden,
you know, apology tours, appeasement, and ending the maximum pressure
campaign that Trump had put in place in his previous term.
So the thing is, we know this doesn't work. They
come in, they they have the same old story. They
want to, you know, help the people of Iran. They

(40:06):
want to use diplomacy, they want to build up the
economy and see if Iran can become less hostile. You know,
we know that all this doesn't work because the Iranian
regime just steals all that money and uses it to
fund terror and and that's how we got October seventh.
So the people of Iran never see a dime of
that money. And even before Trump re instituted the maximum

(40:30):
pressure campaign, the Iranian economy was a mess. It was
horrendous for the average Iranian with you know, runaway inflation,
people not able to afford food. So the regime takes
any money they get and they just use it to
fund violence and destabilize the region. Yeah exactly, I think.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yes, Sorry sorry to cut you ever, running out a
little bit of time, but thank you so much for
joining us, and you made a very good point there.
This was an Obama and Biden administration. They knew all
along with this money would go to and now we
have direct evidence. Thank you so much for joining us.
I have a great rest of your week, Seric Claire,
thank you, Thank you. All right. I know it's all
about the markets and tariffs today in all the big

(41:19):
news sites, but there's gonna be another big story at
the end of the day that, believe it or not,
could become the number one story of the day. David
Brodie's gonna come and talk to me about it when
American Sunrise early edition comes right back, because a live

(41:48):
shot of Cleveland, Ohio, yet another one of the cities
I used to live in. And by the way, if
you are complaining about the tariffs and complaining about what
it's doing to your four oh one k and you've
never lived in a blue collar city, I ever worked
in a blue collar job, don't talk. Just don't talk,
as you come off like a white collar elitist. I
lived in Cleveland, worked in Cleveland, lived in Decatur, Illinois,

(42:09):
worked in Decatur, lived in Bangor Main. I'm not sure
that gives me the authority to speak, but it gives
me a little bit more authority than someone who's never
been off of Wall Street.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition. I'm Jake Novak.
David Rody's going to join me now. Now, look, we
talked about it a little bit in the last segment,
but we didn't talk about the major headline, which is
that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Desanya, who is in the
United States already. He came yesterday. He's meeting with President
Trump at the Oval Office. Some of you were saying,
wait a minute, didn't he just come and do that,

(42:38):
And the answer is yes, he was just here, and
so that tells you something. In my opinion, David, They're
not going to be talking about Gaza. They're not even
going to be talking about Gaza and Tarifs. They will
a little bit, but that's not why he's come back
so quickly. There's one word, and there's one reason why
he's back here so quickly, and that word is Iran.
Oh one hundred percent, Jake.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
I mean, you know you don't have to be a
rocket scientist to figure that one out.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I mean, that's a no brainer.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
And look, they will spin it as he's here to
talk about tariffs and Gaza. Okay, they're gonna have a
little bit of that discussion. No, Look, you don't come
back and fly in essence, halfway around the world to
come over here to the United States and to the
White House to talk about tariffs.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
This just and you can do that.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
On the phone, So give me a break. Look, the
truth of the matter is here we are. We're at
a critical juncture with Iran. I mean, you know the deal, Jake, right,
I mean, Israel wants to strike them. They've been wanting
to strike Iran for a very long time, and I'm
talking about.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Specifically their nuclear facilities.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
They've they've gotten rid of the defense systems there in Israel,
and then you got Syria is a mess with Bashar
al Asad gone, so there's instability there. You got the
Hamas and Hezballah weakened. I mean, it seems like the
perfect time to do this. The problem, Jake, and I
think maybe this is part of the reason for the
meeting where they have to have a head to head,

(43:56):
is that Donald Trump's position himself as the peace president,
and though he's talked tough on Iran, the truth of
the matter is he'd rather do this economically, not militarily,
and I think that where that could be, where the
rubber meets the road, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, that I would certainly want it to be economically.
And as again we talked about with the last guest,
the question is did Obama and Joe Biden put us
in such a bad position economically by giving and allowing
so much money to go to Iran that it's irreversible now.
But the other thing I want to let everyone know
about is that there have been now two earthquakes reported
in the region of Iran where we know they have

(44:29):
the nuclear weapons or they're working on the nuclear weapons.
That says to me that they've tested those weapons, they
weren't really earthquakes, and that to me is an urgent
red flag that would definitely produce the situation where the
President calls it and it's Onowen says we need to
speak one on one again, not confirmed, but there are
two reports of earthquakes just in the last couple of
weeks in that specific region. To me, that's got to

(44:52):
be a nuclear test. I hope I'm wrong, and I
agree with you. I really don't want any any strikes
at all. Not Israeli and certainly not America and on Iran.
But the question is are we are we too late?
Are we too late that are Obama and Biden give
them too much money?

Speaker 6 (45:07):
Yeah, we may be too late or you know that
that's the concern. And we know, and I know Israel's
been saying this for a while about you know, Iran.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Is very close to getting a nuclear weapon X Y
and Z.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Well, look we know that just from an intelligence standpoint
within Israel's intelligence system.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
They say it's within a week. They believe it'll be
within a week.

Speaker 6 (45:26):
I think that's the reason for the visit for sure.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah. All right, well the markets are really down and
Iran's got a nuclear weapon. Have a nice day, everybody,
Mary Sunrise, the big show is coming up.
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