American Sunrise - July 7th, 2025 - Real America’s Voice

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I had on American Sunrise. Texas continues recovering from devastating
floods in Kirk County, and the deatholl continues to rise.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We'll have the very latest throughout the show.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Plus, it is another full day for President Trump as
he's scheduled to sign new executive orders and host Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin nettan Yahoo at the White House. Ahead,
we'll look into what to expect from today's meeting, and
Elon Musk forms a new political party. As you can imagine,
President Trump has plenty to say about it. We'll have

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those stories and so much more right now on American Sunrise.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Good morning, America.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Welcome to American Sunrise.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, it's culture.

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We have breaking news to share with you.

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Politics.

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President Trump is joining us live now from Florida.

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We've got your couple.

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This is what it.

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Looks like to be a patriot, Mayor.

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We have to protect the American family.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
The American dream is still alive.

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I'm David Brody, I'm Terrence, and.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I'm doctor Tina.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
Good morning everybody. I'm doctor Gina. We are live with
you from the Pump Beaches. Let's bring in David Brody.
He's in Washington, DC. Terrence Base in our Denver newsroom.
Good morning, gentlemen, it's not a good morning. I think
our hearts are hurting. I think our hearts are so
close to the victims. I think so many of us
can relate. We all went to camp, we all have

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our families have all camp, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:36):
I mean, it's always it's it's just you.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
Can relate to sort of the shock and despair that
those families are experiencing right now.

Speaker 7 (01:45):
David Brody, No, I.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Mean I can't imagine. I can't imagine. And we'll get
into all of the details, but you know, right now,
let's put the details aside and just look, our human
brains have limited capacity to understand things like this, and
so we're going to get into the faith aspect of
this a little later on. But the truth of the
matter is that we're not going to know the answers,

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probably this side of heaven, and we just need to
rest in that and understand that and build our faith
through that. I say our faith because it's the folks
down in Texas for sure, first and foremost, but tragedy
affects all of us. And you know, look, my daughter
has cancer, she's twenty three years old. My father had

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the same cancer, my grandmother did, my grandfather did, my
sister did. I did not. My twenty three year old
daughter just finished chemotherapy. She does have it. So you
don't know. And it's okay to say, what the heck, God,
what the heck? That's okay. Look at job in the Bible,

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so we can get into a lot of that later on.
But our hearts and when we say prayers literally are
prayer go out to them. And you know what, prayer works,
whether or not you feel it in the moment, it
does work. But there's nothing flowery to say right now
to Bates right now, No.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I'll just add to that, prayer does work.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And God is listening, whether he answers your prayers the
way you want him to or not, he is listening,
and his decisions, his choices, how he decides to handle
your situation is always the right way because He is
in control. And doctor Gene, I think we should just
leave it there and go straight to our Bible verse.
I think that's the most appropriate course forward.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
Yeah, yeah, just interesting.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Note that this week my Bible study was on hearing
the Voice of God, which I never spent a lot
of time focusing on Once you do it, it is
just like a whole new world. I never really thought
about it as much as I thought about it this week.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
Today's Bible verses.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
From Luke one to seventy nine to give light to
those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death,
to guide our feet into the way of peace. Certainly
a nice calming verse. There are so many, though, that
will speak just directly to you.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
And the most.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
Beautiful thing I love about the Bible, and someone said
this to me again this week, is no matter how
many times you read it, no matter how many times
you've read a certain verse, when God decides to speak
to you through a verse in.

Speaker 7 (04:16):
A new way, you will hear it like you've never
heard it.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
You'll hear parts of it and be like, I know
that was in there before, but I never heard the
voice of God in it. And I think that's one
of the most amazing parts. So we will all pray
the peace that surpasses all understanding to guard their hearts
and their minds in Christ Jesus as they face these
terrible tragedies. As we've been reporting, at least eighty people
have been killed in the Texas floods. CNN reporting that

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a warning system was proposed back in twenty sixteen four floods,
but it was reportedly never installed. Although some are saying, look,
it wouldn't matter. This just happened so so fast. Authorities
continuing rescue operations. GOP fundraiser Caroline Wren had this message
on social media. She said, I went to care for

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ten years on the Guadalupe River, just a couple of
miles down the road from Camp Mystic. This tragedy hits
close to home since there are tons there's tons of
information flying around. Here's what I'm hearing from friends and
family in the area and with the children at the camps.
Camp Mystic Excuse Me, is an all girls Christian camp
on the Guadalupe River opened in nineteen twenty six and

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has been run by the same family since the nineteen thirties.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
Caroline Wren joins us.

Speaker 8 (05:27):
Now.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
Now, Caroline, I didn't know this about you. You and
I are friends and talk a lot back channel, but
this is something that I think every American can relate to.
There's something in the American experience that helps us. You know,
we've all seen the floods, most of us have gone
to camp or had some part in a camp, but

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it rings really true to something in the American fabric.

Speaker 7 (05:52):
What can you tell us about.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
The things you're hearing from the people you know on
the ground.

Speaker 9 (05:59):
Well, for me, this on the morning of July fourth,
and I looked at my Facebook and started seeing a
couple of people posts, please.

Speaker 10 (06:06):
Anyone can you help me?

Speaker 9 (06:07):
My best friend's daughter is missing. And it was one,
then two, then three a posts like that. They were
the most horrific, terrifying things to see. And as that day,
you know, when along we saw what happened to unfold.
And I think it's hard to explain to people, especially
a lot of the media covering this. You know, these
are New York City elites. They've never been to the

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Texas Hill Country. It's probably the most beautiful area, I
think in this country. It is very rugged and it
is home to a tremendous number of summer camps. There
are five summer camps there that are pretty large, about
seven hundred kids attend, and they're also long. When I
started at Camp Waldemar, i was eight years old and

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you go for a month, and that's the same with
Camp Mystic which is right down the road. They're both
all girls camps. They are absolutely beautiful. People don't realize too.
I mean, your parents have to put you on a
wait list when you're born to go to these camps,
and it is the most uplifting, life changing experience you
can have being having the privilege to go. And so
for these parents to have to go through this, it's

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really just terrifying. But kind of understanding more of what
happened at these camps I.

Speaker 10 (07:14):
Think is important.

Speaker 9 (07:14):
First of all, the just historic level of water that
came in the middle of the night. I can't even
imagine your first day of camp. You are actually trained
on if a flash flood comes, and I remember we
always hated this part of camp because you're ten years old.
You're ready to just go, you know, jump on the
river or play soccer, and so they train you exactly
where to go.

Speaker 10 (07:33):
But this hit at four o'clock in the morning. The
river rose almost.

Speaker 9 (07:36):
Forty feet in two hours. So can you imagine being
the one to make the call to wake up and
move seven hundred and fifty children at three am in
the pitch black, in the middle of a trential downpour.

Speaker 10 (07:50):
I don't know how to make that call.

Speaker 9 (07:51):
And in nineteen eighty seven a similar thing happened in
this exact area with the camp. They made the call
to evacuate the about four hundred kids from the camp.
One of the buses during the evacuation.

Speaker 10 (08:01):
These are all.

Speaker 9 (08:02):
Really small rural roads leading in and out of these camps,
going over bridges. Well, the bridge got overwhelmed with water
and that school bus filled with forty three kids washed away.
Ten of those kids died, thirty three others were plucked
out of the river. So making the decision to put
everyone into buses, and you're talking about thousands of children
that are all in this region during this, you know,

(08:22):
two months of time of the summer, where are you
even bussing them to. So this was a horrific freak
accident at Camp Mystick, which is where we have sadly,
you know, missing twenty seven children and counselors. Dick Eastland,
his family has owned that camp since nineteen thirty. He
is a wonderful man and he actually he died trying
to save the lives of those campers. And from what

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we can tell, all the campers that are missing from
Camp Mystick, they were in two cabins, and I was
just reading an article from Dick Eastland's son. He went
down there with his father to go try and rescue
these kids, and he said what he saw, he can't
even imagine it.

Speaker 11 (08:58):
There was a.

Speaker 9 (08:59):
Literal whirlpool that formed between these two kids cabins that
sucked all of those children in, including his father. And
that is something. I mean, this is fifteen feet above
water levels where these cabins were. So I know, before
we're all judging the camps or others, just understand how
rare this flood was, how awful this whole thing is,

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and just be praying and praying and praying for these families.

Speaker 10 (09:25):
I cannot imagine what they could be going through.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, it's unbelievable and unimaginable for so many of US.
President Trump set to head to that region on Friday
to try to offer comfort. And it seems to me
in moments like this, sometimes just the presence of a
commander in chief or of someone can at least ease
for a moment some of the suffering. It doesn't take
it away, it obviously doesn't reverse anything, but the presence

(09:52):
at least shows that someone cares.

Speaker 9 (09:55):
Yes, I'm thrilled he is going, and I was very
glad that Secretary Nome went there. I think her presence
was very welcome. She seemed to take a very commanding
lead while on the ground. I think people are very
pleased with the Texas officials who have stepped up as well.
And you know, as we look towards well, what are
some things that we can thank God for.

Speaker 10 (10:11):
There's a camp about two.

Speaker 9 (10:12):
Miles downstream from Camp Mystic called Camp Part of the Hills.
It's also an all girls camp with similar about seven
hundred campers. They were between terms. Those campers were set
to arrive July sixth yesterday. Can you imagining a parent
and thinking like, if your kid had just been there
two days earlier, what could have happened? And instead they're
home with you in your bed, you would be praying

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and thanking God so much. The owner of that camp,
Jane Ragsdale, she was beloved. She passed away in the
floods going to try and rescue. The counselors had already
arrived to prepare for the kid's arrival just two days
from then. She went down there to try and rescue
and warn the counselors. So this was, you know it,
we can thank god that there was no campers there.

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A little bit about four more miles downstream was another camp,
Camp Lahunta, is the All boys camp. That is where
you've seen just harrowing tales of counselors keep by. These
counselors are seventeen eighteen, nineteen year old stories about them
pulling kids out of the cabin through the windows, floating
out of their mattresses. And miraculously every child at that

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camp survived.

Speaker 10 (11:17):
And so there are things to be.

Speaker 9 (11:19):
Thankful for, but there are certainly things that make you think,
oh God, how could you do this and why? But
you know, let's I like to focus on both the
good and the tragedy.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, in Caroline, we have about thirty seconds or so everybody,
you know, start to talking about the warning systems and
all that. But I mean it's very rural up there.
I mean, this is not an easy place to necessarily
get signals at all times.

Speaker 9 (11:43):
No, and it has come out now that the NWS
warnings that they were accurate and timely, and that it
was accurately staffed. Right, but understanding this region, no NWS
radar can observe rapidly rising water there are not enough
people out at four am to monitor every mile of
the river and every low water crossing. And most importantly,
there's no way to war alert every individual or business,
most of them asleep to danger that was charging rapidly

(12:04):
down the river. And to say that the county to
ask them to build a mile by mile monitoring system
and a separate mile by mile alerting system, you were
looking at an eight to nine figure expense given how expansive,
remote and rugged this area is. So these are not
that realistic of things. This was a once in five
hundred year flood, truly, and we've never had anything like
this on record. And so to say that people, oh,

(12:27):
you should have been prepared, how do you prepare for
once in five hundred year flood?

Speaker 10 (12:30):
And it is I think we need to let.

Speaker 9 (12:33):
Some more time happen, let these families grieve, and then
of course there should be an after action report.

Speaker 10 (12:37):
But everyone I think is jumping the gun on that.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yeah, they're like the Bible says, there's a season for everything,
and this is not the time to come in and
everybody blame. I agree with you, Caroline. Our hearts and
prayers are so with all of those affected Thank you
so much for sharing your very personal insight here. We
appreciate it, and everybody.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Involved thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Thanks Caroly.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
Coming up, we'll check out the hottest headlines from the
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you live to Texas as the aftermath from the horrific
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President Trump's going to be sending letters to some of
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context than it otherwise does domestically. Will of course monitor
today's hearing and update you of any resolution. The death
told from flash flooding in central Texas is hovering around

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eighty people at the moment, but it could rise throughout
the coming days. Many of the dead were attending an
all girls summer camp when floodwaters tore through the cabins.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott says forty one people are unaccounted
for across the state and more could be missing. Kerr
County is dealing with the most deaths, as officials there
are reporting sixty eight deaths, including.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Twenty eight children.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Forecasters say heavy rain is expected to last into tomorrow
and could produce even more life threatening flooding during the
first thirty six hours following the storm, officials rescued more
than eight hundred and fifty people. That's a quick check
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And next, a live report from Texas on the response
to the catastrophic and deadly flooding. Mail right now, though,
a quick look at this day in history. It was

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on this date in eighteen ninety eight the Congress annexed
to Hawaii through a joint resolution signed by President William McKinley.
The islands then became a territory in nineteen hundred, which
led the way for Hawaiian statehood in nineteen fifty nine.

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We're back in a.

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Moment, Dallas, Texas, on a Monday morning, July seventh, twenty

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twenty five, here on American Sunrise. Welcome back to the show.
Now to the devastating situation in Texas As. Rescue and
recovery efforts from the deadly flooding in Kirk County continue
this morning. At least eighty people have been confirmed dead,
that number expected to rise. Rav has been on the
ground throughout these tragic times. Over the weekend here some

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of our reporting. Take a look.

Speaker 14 (18:38):
Be a horrible tragedy down in Texas.

Speaker 15 (18:40):
Day Louge a brain. It came in hard and fast.
What that resulted in was a deadly cresting.

Speaker 14 (18:46):
Then a matter of minutes it was up to twenty
nine feet.

Speaker 16 (18:48):
Is nothing short of biblical.

Speaker 17 (18:50):
I'm asking the people of Texas do some serious praying
this afternoon.

Speaker 12 (18:55):
This is like a major hurricane.

Speaker 15 (18:57):
The Camp Mystic Christian camp kids camped out for the
fourth of July.

Speaker 16 (19:01):
Twenty six feet and forty five minutes. Is that possible?

Speaker 15 (19:05):
You know that is possible. We got six confirmed fatalities.
I pray that that does not increase.

Speaker 17 (19:12):
If they're alive, and say, we will find out and
bring them home to you.

Speaker 16 (19:16):
They're follow not stopping.

Speaker 14 (19:18):
Will America's voice also a weather nation.

Speaker 18 (19:20):
This is right downtown Curville. When you see just trees
snap like twigs, go pray, pray, pray for this community.
Today will be a hard day.

Speaker 14 (19:33):
The town manager comes up and says it's going to
be a very tough day to day.

Speaker 16 (19:36):
I think that's a tell.

Speaker 14 (19:38):
We've got people running to the sound of the guns
to find these children, to rescue them.

Speaker 15 (19:43):
Over two hundred and sixty rescues yesterday.

Speaker 18 (19:46):
This is a positive note.

Speaker 19 (19:48):
Obviously, you recovered twenty seven deceased fatalities at this time.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I have with a eight nine year old camp and
a couple of the camp buildings were swept away.

Speaker 18 (19:57):
There are still twenty seven missing from Camp Mystic.

Speaker 16 (20:00):
Back on your knee, Sam, prayer.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Speak one one one again.

Speaker 10 (20:03):
There was no people.

Speaker 18 (20:05):
This kind of stuff really reminds you of what's really important.
These communities all coming together. This is what America is
all about.

Speaker 16 (20:11):
Sich.

Speaker 20 (20:12):
So young people have died. We'll take care of what
working working with the governor. We're working with the govern
it's a terrible thing.

Speaker 21 (20:22):
We are going to address everybody's concern and there is
extraordinary collaboration.

Speaker 8 (20:29):
We're finding people as fast as possible, and we're returning
them to their families.

Speaker 17 (20:33):
The city officials here immediately sprung into action.

Speaker 18 (20:36):
We will rescue those in peril and we will find
those who are missing.

Speaker 15 (20:41):
We're all working together, we're all communicating, and we will
not stop.

Speaker 22 (20:44):
You can go back and look at your own forecast
and the amount of brain that fell at this specific
location was never at any of those forecasts.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
You're all immediate.

Speaker 22 (20:51):
You got that forecast, it did not predict the amount
of brain that we saw.

Speaker 23 (20:54):
My thanks to President Trump and Secretary Knowme for responding
so quick.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
We still have work to do.

Speaker 14 (21:01):
We're still prayerful, we're still hopeful.

Speaker 22 (21:03):
I also have volunteers all over this county that do
the job for free, that we're out there working to
save lives, many times putting their own lives and their
property at risk.

Speaker 18 (21:12):
Having covered the North Carolina and Tennessee and Georgia Hurricane
Helen and the disaster, I mean, I've already seen a
huge difference here the way the federal government is. I
just thank god President Trump's in there. I thank god
Christine Olam's in there. Lift them up in your prayers.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
Our first responders are rock stars and heroes what they do,
and they're exhausted. They've been doing this now for several
days and it's not going to end any time.

Speaker 24 (21:39):
So Lord, I just lift them up to you right now.

Speaker 18 (21:42):
Especially if there's any girls that are still alive that
are afraid they're alone. I just pray you'd be with
them right now. Lord, I pray in this situation that
you would be the god of comfort to this community,
but you would do miracles. From now on, we would
see miracles happen. I pray for your hand on this community,
in this state and this nation, isn't it. God bless

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you guys, God bless America. Will continue to cover Stay tuned,
you know.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
RAV correspondent and the host of Law and Border Ben
Burkwam has been in the thick of it all weekend long.
He joins us now from Curville, Texas, about an hour
northwest of San Antonio. Ben, I don't even really know
what to say other than why don't you just take
it from here and just just relay what in the
world is happening there this morning and some of the
experiences that you saw over the weekend.

Speaker 18 (22:32):
Good morning, Yeah, Hey, good morning guys. It's you know,
it's it's hard to describe. It's hard to quantify. If
you haven't seen raging rivers, if you haven't seen a
tidal wave of water and what that can do, it's
it's just hard to imagine. And the devastation, you know,
as a dad of three young.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Girls, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 18 (22:58):
Your heart just breaks. It just break for the community.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
And so.

Speaker 18 (23:02):
That's just my biggest thing is just keep praying, keep
praying for this community.

Speaker 24 (23:06):
I don't know how you put that back together.

Speaker 18 (23:08):
I don't know how when you lose all of your
children or one of your children, where you go from there.
And I know you know sadly, it's just a part
of life sometimes, but it's the worst part. And so
I yeah, just keep praying. I'll show you what's behind me.
This is one of the main bridges in town. Is

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behind the trees off in the distance. I'll get out
of the shot here and then if you look down here,
this is one of the dams in the city and
it held.

Speaker 24 (23:38):
There's another dam at the bottom side.

Speaker 18 (23:40):
But I want to show you so off in the
distance there is still some wreckage. We were actually going
through that wreckage yesterday. There was a car trapped underneath
it and they thought there might have been somebody in it,
so they I was there when they pulled it out. Thankfully,
there was no one inside the vehicle. But there was
another van up the river that is believed to be

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owned by a family that's missing, and I was there
when they searched that van. As well, and the family
was not in it that they were believed to have
washed downstream. But if you just look right here, if
I just pointed down at the bottom, there's a massive tree,
and then there's a tire that's in the water as
it goes over the waterfall, and you could just see
that vortex of water how it sucks.

Speaker 24 (24:21):
It back in.

Speaker 18 (24:22):
In areas like this, you know, a human body, even
a vehicle, has no chance to swim out of something
like that. And so, and this is low water. Where
I'm standing was actually right at the water line. We're
about just over twenty five feet above the water line.
So imagine that raging torrent up where I'm standing right now.

(24:46):
And at five o'clock in the morning, you know, on
the fourth of July, you're anticipating. Actually all the wreckage
that's behind me over there was set up for the
Fourth of July fireworks that they have here every year,
they have a band and a concert. All of that
washed out, and so it was just the it was
the worst possible set of variables at the worst time.

(25:07):
And when you heard in that video they're talking about
the amount of rainfall anticipated predicted, you know, four to
six inches in some areas, over fifteen inches of rain fell,
and so it's you just, you know, there's no way
to prepare for that when it happens that fast.

Speaker 24 (25:24):
You know, people are calling for.

Speaker 18 (25:26):
You know, the mainstream media is talking about, well, why
was it their early advanced warning? And you know, that's
a decent question to say, why aren't there sirens? We
have tornado sirens, Why don't we have flood sirens. There's
a lot of questions that can be asked, but right
now the biggest issue is finding the potentially recovering or
rescuing those that are still alive. You know, we're seventy

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two hours into this thing. Typically you're going to find
the ones that are alive in that time period. The
rest will be recoveries. And that's what the law enforcement
and first responders are spending their time on. And they've
been it twenty four to seven the last three days.
They're NonStop. They're not sleeping. These guys are just they're
they're working their butts off, and I just again, just

(26:09):
lift them up in your prayers, lift the community up
in your prayers, and especially the children that lost parents
and the parents that lost children. Just just pray pray, pray, pray.
We need the Lord, his peace, his guidance and all
of this.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yes, we sure do. Ben, We've got less in a minute,
maybe thirty seconds. Any sense on the ground there that
they might find any survivors. Are they losing hope? I mean,
you know how this is an ongoing process, and boy,
we just we want to see someone that has survived this,
that you know, stranded like we need the country needs

(26:46):
that right now. Gosh, it would be great to find
someone that survived this.

Speaker 18 (26:51):
Well they did, in fact, over twenty four hours they
found two girls. It was, you know, almost two days
into it. They found two girls hanging from a tree
thirty feet up in the air that had been washed
several miles downstream. And it was nothing but the hand
of God that saved them. So there are miracles that
are happening in this, and we continue to pray for

(27:12):
more law enforcement. They haven't lost hope. But in general,
in these types of situations, the seventy two hour mark
is typically that that window you know, if somebody's going
to survive. You know, even out here, if you're hanging
in a tree, you can die of dehydration over that
period of time. And if you're you know, not in
a tree, you're typically somewhere where you can try to

(27:34):
get rescue. But it's possible, it's possible that there's you know,
people that have washed up on shore somewhere. They've got
broken limbs, they can't call for help, you know. And
I promise you the rescuers are doing everything they can.
They've got every resource, every asset. They've got as many
helicopters as they can have in the sky, they've got
as many boats as they can have in the water.

(27:55):
They have as many men on the ground, men and
women on the ground, searching every co owner of the shore.
And as the water recedes, they continue to come inward.
So they're doing everything possible. And that's our prayer that
if there are survivors still out there, that they will
be found today. They'll be found now, and we'll have
updates on that. We're anticipating another press conference in the

(28:15):
next couple hours, probably closer to the ten o'clock Local
time eleven o'clock Eastern time, and we'll get an update
at that point.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Okay, Ben, we'll check back with you later in the show.
You know, David and Job and they all cried out
in grief, and you know it's okay to go to
God and be angry and be frustrated, but know that
he's on the throne. Ben, Thank you appreciate that. And
then all right, we're gonna have more American Sunrise in
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Ay Gina appreciate it. All right. Now, let's talk about ICE,
and they had a busy fourth of July. Reports that
ICE carried out operations in California. Officials say more than
sixteen hundred people were apprehended in southern California alone. They're
now getting set to be deported in response to all
of this. Protests broke out over the weekend. Of course
they did for more. Let's bring in retired Navy captain

(31:16):
and GOP strategist Arman Curdian Armen. So the one Big
Beautiful Bill is now one big beautiful law, and that
means a lot as it relates a lot of money
as relates to immigration enforcement. So we're talking about my goodness,
I have the stats here, learn me just go to it.
Forty five billion dollars, another one hundred billion dollars to

(31:38):
supercharge the mass deportation. So we're looking at close to
one hundred and fifty billion dollars. So what does that
look like in America going forward, because we're talking about
a boatload of cash. Tom Homan very happy this morning.

Speaker 25 (31:51):
Good morning, David, Doctor Gina. Well, certainly, it's going to
help pay for a lot more ICE agents. It's going
to help for the enforcement and the transportational logistic of
moving these people in and out of the country. I'm
going to venture to guests at some of that money
that Trump had suggested for, like say, hey, we'll give
you a thousand dollars if you self deport, you know,
leave the country for three years, and then maybe you
can try yourself to come back in again. So it

(32:13):
gives ICE and Department of Homeland Security a lot more
options in or to make sure a lot of these
criminals and these folks who've come across the border improperly
are sent back to their home nations, and perhaps for
those who really do want to take a part of
the American dream, give them a chance to start again.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
I'm in Senate.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
Republicans and Democrats have different proposals to stop drug cartel violence,
which is a pervasive problem.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
As you know.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
I was Senator Johnny Joni Ernst called for law enforcement
to handle it and praise them for putting their lives
on the line to keep us safe.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
Illinois Senator Dick.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
Durban blamed the firearm industry and added that gun dealers
are selling guns to the cartels.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
You know, I've gone into gun shops to buy guns,
and I can tell you what they put you through.
I guarantee t you some cartel member could not get through.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
So what do you make of this.

Speaker 25 (33:07):
Doctor Gina. I have a time machine right here. Let's
step back fifteen years and go to Operation Loan Star,
and let's see what Dick Durbin has to say about
the government selling guns to cartels. So I will say
absolutely if there are gun manufacturers that are I would
I would assume accidentally selling guns to cartels or members.
I think that's absolutely fair to take a look to

(33:28):
make sure that those guns don't fall into the hands
of people that we don't want them to.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
But at the same time, let's let's let's be honest.

Speaker 25 (33:35):
About what we've done in the past in terms of
thiss goovernment and selling selling guns to the cartels. It's
it goes back to what root cause analysis is. What
is you know, what is gun violence? Is it because
guns are out there? Or is it because that we
have a six society, that people have mental health issues
and have devalued life so much that they're going out

(33:56):
and committing these gun crimes. That's not the fault of
the gun industry. Let's maybe this fault of this country
and US as a nation, and it's a society for
not taking care of our people and not really understanding
what's going on. And hopefully RFK Junior is doing a
little bit of that now in his position. So let's
if you can take the guns out of the hands

(34:16):
of people, but if you don't solve the root problem
of why these acts are being are taking place, then
the problem is still there.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, arman, you're running for Congress other What's what's the
district out there where you are in terms of immigration
kind of on the street. What are you hearing from
constituents out there?

Speaker 25 (34:36):
Well, certainly it's a twenty five percent Latino district, and
the vast majority of this district still approved Prop. Thirty six,
which improves a law enforcement activities. You know, it made
shoplifting illegal again and on from that, and folks want
the violent criminals out of the area. But being California,

(34:57):
there are a majority of the people also who don't
like seeing ICE going and getting people who are perhaps
in this country illegal, but they have committed no additional crimes.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
So you know, that's that's absolutely understandable from that standpoint.

Speaker 25 (35:10):
And for these poor ICE agents out there working on
the fourth of July, the first thing that struck me
was like, gosh, don't these guys get a holiday. You know,
it would be good for ICE to get all these
criminals out. I'm sure that a lot of these folks
who are getting swept up, who don't have any other crimes,
simply were there perhaps at the same time that other
criminal folks were folks who had warrants out for their

(35:31):
arrest or who had failed to meet, you know, come
into court for their asylum hearings, ad infinitum. So absolutely
I can understand the sentiment and the feeling around here
because it is a you know, it is a very
heavy Democrat district. It is also very heavy Latino district,
so it's natural for them to feel that way. I
think there's room for both sides to make progress on

(35:52):
this issue, and I think there is also room to
look at you know, federal immigration policies to make it
easier to be a citizen for those people who are genuine,
who want to share the American dream, who share our values,
who want to learn English, be a part of society,
open started business and have their kids grow up to
be American citizens.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
Well said, thank you for Mncurdian. Good to have you.

Speaker 25 (36:15):
Thanks Agin, you have a great thing.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Thanks Coming up, Elon Musk says he is forming a
new political party. What are some of the goals for
the midterms next year. If he's going to do it,
we have the details.

Speaker 7 (36:27):
Can you do it? You can a third party happen
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Speaker 1 (38:21):
Now that we're caffeinated, it's time to stay awake, not woke,
and this morning Elon Musk is in the crosshairs as
he has formed a new political party. The new party
is called the America Party. Musk says initially the party
will focus on eight to ten House seats in two
to three Senate seats. All of this comes after he
and President Trump have been feuding about the big beautiful

(38:42):
Bill for more. Let's bring in Gena and David to
talk a bit more about this, and guys, as we
get into it. President Trump, also responding to the formation
of this new political party on True Social writing, I
am saden to watch Elon Musk go completely off the rails,
essentially becoming a train wreck over the past five weeks. Again,
that's a direct quote from President Trump's True Social post.

(39:06):
What do you make of all of this? Is it
going to get any traction? Doctor Gina? I think that's
somewhat of a rhetorical question, but I'll just leave it
open ended.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
It is a tragedy.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
I mean, I wish we could go back to the
time when folks were working together, who agreed on ninety
percent of what needs to happen to fix our very
broken body politic. But that's not going to happen. I
think that many of us foresaw this. I think months
and months ago. I remember sitting election night, we were

(39:37):
at mar Lago here and looking at Elon and President
Trump sitting at the table together having a great time
like two guys in a cigar bar or something, and
thinking how long can this possibly last with that much
alpha male happening? And so it almost seems inevitable from

(39:57):
a psychological standpoint, which you know is what I sa study.
I think though, from a psychological standpoint also, Terrence, I
want to warn that I feel like focusing on this
right now when Republicans need and should have their eye
on the prize of winning midterms, this could be a
diversion that I think could get us caught up in

(40:20):
something that is ancillary and a big distraction. It could
be detrimental and a real detractor coming up in terms
of winning the midterms.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
David, I'd love your analysis.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
No, you're absolutely right. He calls an America's Party, but
it's the spoiler party, that's what it is. I mean,
he says eight or so house districts in two to
three Senate races. Let's be clear, he's talking about Republicans
that he's going to back or whatever he wants to
call them, you know, Musk and Republican combined type people.

(40:53):
So the point is he's going after Republicans and he's
splitting the party, So you might as well be working
for the Democrats at this point. I mean, seriously, I mean,
that's what it is. I mean. And so thanks Elon Musk,
Thanks for doing pretty much nothing, because you basically left
and burned the house down. I truly believe, or he's
trying to burn the house down, you know, I truly

(41:15):
believe this was all about money. Ultimately, he spent what
was it, close to two hundred and fifty million dollars
maybe to eighty on Trump's reelection, and I think people
like that think that they can just buy access and
power and influence. And when Trump Trump's always going to
be his own man and was going to do things
his way, and when must didn't kind of get his
way on certain picks, whether it be on NASA and others,

(41:38):
he got frustrated. And that's part of it. So I
think part of it sour grapes. I'm not saying he's
not principled on the money stuff, but what's your point.
I mean, if you really want to make a dent,
go after the Democrats and kick those folks out of office.
You know, the Republicans that voted for the bill, they
voted for a lot of Trump's agenda, most of Trump's agenda.

(41:58):
So you're going to kick people out because they didn't
you know, they buck they went back on the spending
aspect of this. I mean, give me a break. First
of all, this is the more spending than Congress has
ever cut, number one, So it's called, you know, merch
it down the field, Elon. I mean, was this bill perfect? No,
But you know you got to see the forest from

(42:19):
the trees here, and Elon Musk has just really done,
just done some real damage. And the sad part is
the media is going to eat this up all the
way to the midterms. And to your point, t bates
at the beginning. Will this get traction? I don't know
politically if it'll get traction, but from a media perspective,
absolutely it'll get traction. This is Trump versus Elon. It's
a splintering of the Republican Party in MAGA, and that's

(42:41):
going to be the headlines. Even though a lot of
that is just not true. But that's what the media
is going to.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
Run with two absolute truth year number one. Third parties
don't work.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
Number two.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
Those who promote them marginalize themselves here and sorry.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah no no, I'll just add number three. Was Elon
ever really maggot? Supporting Trump alone doesn't necessarily make you maga.
We're the values, really maga?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I question that? Do you know what you say? They
weren't doctor Gina your.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Thoughts because you saw him at mar A Lago every
now and then, you were really in tune with Mega.
Do you think Elon like, do you consider Elon really
having ever been maga?

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Well, you know the thing about maga is that no
individual gets to define it, So I don't get to
say what maga is.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
Maga is what it is to me.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
To me, maga is the ideals of the Tea Party rights, That's.

Speaker 7 (43:28):
What it is to me.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
To Elon, I think it was just about business exploding,
and he was just excited to see business come back,
and then when it wasn't going the way, he thought
he had a problem with it. So the thing about
a people's movement, the thing about a populist movement, is
that it is not definable by one person, and that
means not gene allowed. But it also means not elon
Musk Terrence. I think that's an important thing to note.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
That's a fair point, doctor. I had never thought of it,
Thank you. That's a fair point. It's an absolutely fair point,
all right, coming up, not even Donald Trump. Now, that's
a very good point, doctor Jane. I really had never
thought of it in those terms. Coming out Texas is
really from the devastating, deadly flooding that has killed scores
of people. So how can faith sustain these communities? We'll

(44:14):
talk about it next. You're on American Sunrise.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
God bless the Us.

Speaker 16 (44:40):
In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

Speaker 6 (44:51):
All right, welcome back to American Sunrises. Time now for
a moment of faith. This is brought to us by
Lee Greenwood and the God blessed the USA Bible and
focus today finding faith in times of tragedy. The death
toll in the Texas flood is approximately eighty. I think
it's over eighty now. Authorities are still searching for survivors,
hoping against hope. During these times, we turn to our

(45:13):
faith to try to begin the healing process. For more,
Let's bring in the president and CEO of Coral Rich
Ministries and the founder of the Institute for Faith and Culture,
doctor Robert Pacienza, Doctor Pascienza.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
You know, it almost.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Feels preachy, doesn't it to say in a time like this,
be sure you turn to your faith. But as I
was mentioning, I'm doing a deep dive right now on
hearing the voice of God, which is something I never
gave a ton of thought to. I kind of I
don't know what I thought. I just I don't know.
It was just it was something I kind of flew past.
How do you hear the voice of God though, in
the midst of such tragedy.

Speaker 26 (45:50):
Well, the reality is we all have faith in something.
We have faith in ourselves, we have faith in our careers,
we have faith in our future. The question in moments
like this, were reminded that we need to have faith
in something bigger than ourselves. We need to have faith
in the God that created us, and more importantly, the
God that offers redemption.

Speaker 24 (46:07):
Through the person and work of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 26 (46:10):
And it's our prayer that people, whether it's they're in Texas,
whether they're dealing with this tragedy directly or whether they're
watching from afar, would be reminded that we need to
have faith in something that is eternal and something that
never changes, and that something is a someone, the person
and work of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
And in times like these, you want to pray for people,
you want to pray so effectively. And I remember thinking, well,
actually was with my colleague David Brodie, his daughter Lena
going through cancer treatment right now, and I thought, I
just want to pray as effectively as I've ever prayed
for this family. And I find myself struggling with understanding

(46:54):
how to most effectively pray when people are really going
through something to pray for them.

Speaker 7 (46:59):
Do you have suggestion?

Speaker 26 (47:01):
Absolutely, well, I'm not only a pastor, but I'm a
father who's lost a child, and I can honestly say
it's in those moments of tragedy that were reminded of
the God of the Old and New Testament, who declares
that he weeps with those who weep, and he mourns
with those who mourn, and he moves closer to the
broken hearted. And most importantly, God is a father who

(47:24):
lost his son, Jesus Christ. And so we can take comfort,
and we can pray for people to understand that this
is not something you get over, but grief is something
that you go through. But thanks be to God, we
get to go through it with a God who walks
with us.

Speaker 24 (47:43):
And he climbs in the valley with us.

Speaker 26 (47:45):
And so I think we can pray for those that
are experiencing this tragedy to just be still and to
know that God is there and that He weeps with them.
And may it be the very tears of God that
brings them comfort in the midst of this tragedy.

Speaker 6 (48:02):
Oh, doctor Passians, I didn't realize you had lost a child.

Speaker 26 (48:04):
You want to tell us, Yeah, we lost our daughter
Lily about seven years ago. She was three years old.
She was our little angel. She was the youngest evangelist.
We knew she would go around telling people if she
knew if they knew Jesus, and so we know that
we will be reunited with her one day. But in
the midst of grief and in the midst of tragedy,

(48:27):
that's where we find hope in the God that created us,
and the God that redeems us, and the God who
weeps with us. And we pray that the church would
be the church in this moment for those that are
struggling with loss in the state of Texas, that they
would find their ultimate hope and faith and trust in
the God who sent his son Jesus Christ to offer

(48:48):
life and life eternal.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
I knew there was a little sparkle in you. That's
your little lily.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
Doctor Robert Passienza, thank you so much for being with us,
for sharing your story.

Speaker 7 (48:57):
Our prayers continued.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Just hope for your family because it sounds like you
turned that tragic situation to hope and we can only
pray the saying for those facing such tragedy right now
in Texas.

Speaker 24 (49:09):
Thank you, Amen, Thank you.

Speaker 7 (49:11):
Back with the second.

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Half of American Sunrise in two minutes.

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On this second hour of American Sunrise, it's a race
against time. His search and recovery crews in Texas are
back at it this morning looking for survivors following the
massive flash flooding that's devastating parts of the Lone Star State.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
We're live on.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
The scene and monitoring how you and your family can
help those who have lost everything. Plus General Michael Flynn,
the first National security advisor to President Trump, says he
was targeted by the FBI because he was a direct
threat to a deep state plot to discredit and derail
the president. Flynn also said says he was falsely planted

(50:02):
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and instead of July fourth, messages of pride and patriotism
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Welcome to American Sunrise.

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The American dream is still alive. I'm David Brody, I'm Terrence,
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Speaker 3 (50:59):
And welcome back everybody to the second hour of American Sunrise.
I'm David Brody, coming to you from DC. Let's bring
in doctor g and West Palm and teammates in our
Denver newsroom. Good morning to both of you guys. You know,
this has been a heavy show. I don't think there's
any question about it. It makes you really kind of

(51:21):
wonder about, you know, just the brevity of life at
times and when tragedy strikes. But doctor g look, God
doesn't promise us the answers in the Bible, it doesn't
promise us all the answers, and we have to kind
of rest and maybe wrestle with that to a degree.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
Yeah, it's always interesting in our own grief. I think
sometimes in mind I've said, you know, I've asked the
why question like we do, and then I realized that
there is nothing that we walk through that He didn't
walk through first.

Speaker 7 (51:53):
And if you really remember.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
Whether it's rejection or grief or embarrassment or just yearning,
you know, the deep yearning of the soul that people
go through in different parts of life, whatever it is,
he went through it first.

Speaker 7 (52:07):
And if you.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
Really look at the life of Jesus Christ, moment by moment,
you will find those moments where He is just so
close to you. And I think that's what doctor Pacienda
was saying. You know it is in those moments that
we're really walking through the hard times, Terence, that he's
the absolute closest to us. And I think that's a
beautiful and reassuring thought.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
And for people of faith, you know that no matter
what you're walking through, Jesus is walking right alongside you.
Whether he's supporting you in the way that you think
you want to be supported or not, but he's walking
right alongside you. Camp Mystic, of course, the all girls
camp that was devastated by the flooding, just releasing a
statement this morning saying, and I'm going to quote that

(52:51):
it is grieving the loss of twenty seven campers. A
statement going on to say, we have been in communication
with local and state authorities who are tirelessly deploying the
extensive resources to search for our missing girls. We are
deeply grateful for the outpouring of support from the community,
first responders and officials at every level. So a lot

(53:11):
of work and a lot of support being offered there
at Camp Mystic, but unfortunately, still dozens of young girls
have passed away as a result of the deadly flooding.
There still a sad situation and.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
Counselors that I believe the director of the camp, Caroline
set as well. Just a tragic story all the way around.
And then remember that there's sixty some others out there,
or fifty some others I guess my math, you know,
who are also mourning and grieving losses and some still
not found.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Well, we'll be talking a lot more about this obviously
throughout the hour. Ben Burkwam is going to join us
here in a little bit. So we want to turn
our attention out to Washington, d C. And a justice
system in question. President Trump's former national security advisor and
retired Army Lieutenant Colonel Michael General excuse me, Michael fnn
had a long and distinguished career, a wonderful one. He
was dragged through the legal system eventually but guilty to

(54:07):
charges of lyne to the FBI about his conversations with
a Russian agent. But it doesn't end there. General Flynn
now suing the federal government. He claims he was wrongfully prosecuted.
It was targeted by the FBI because he was a
direct threat to a quote deep state plot to discredit
and derail President Trump. The president ultimately pardoned General Flynn.

(54:29):
As we know, he is captured it all, General Flynn
and his best selling new book. It's called Pardon of Innocence.
The book has been endorsed by President Trump himself. It
is just out and General Michael Flynn joins us. Now, General,
really appreciate your service and for being here this morning,
and we do want to talk to you about your book.

(54:50):
I would be remiss if I didn't ask you about
what's happened in Texas and maybe some offering, some words
of encouragement or what you can say to that now,
and then we'll of course get to your book. I
know priorities for sure.

Speaker 19 (55:01):
Yeah, a couple of things. And I've written eight books actually,
and all of the books that I write, I always
talk about faith. And I think that this is really
for what is going on in the country today, because
we tend to have a sense of hopelessness sometimes especially

(55:22):
some of these people that are looking for their children,
Oh my god. But I think what we seek in
life is we seek hope, and we seek hope through
for those that have the strength of faith, or even
for those that that you know, lost it at some
point in their lives and now you know, are out
there trying to find it through whatever path.

Speaker 11 (55:42):
You know, from my.

Speaker 19 (55:43):
Perspective, I always write about faith, family and freedom or
faith family and what I.

Speaker 18 (55:51):
Call true friends.

Speaker 11 (55:53):
And I was, you know, off before we came on.

Speaker 19 (55:56):
I don't know whether I was talking to producer or you, David,
but as a young child, I was in third grade,
I lost my sister Lenny to in a very tragic accident.
She was actually in a coma for six months. I'm
one of nine children. My parents went through I mean
emotional hell. And because they weren't they had to basically
watch their their oldest daughter, their oldest child, who tragically

(56:20):
died but was in a coma for six months, die
for six months, they had to watch her. I know,
my mother went up there every single she went to
the hospital every night. And so you know, for me
and my memories of that, because you know, you never forget.
But what you do is you you can find some renewal,
you know, in your lives or certainly in your faith

(56:44):
if you so choose. And I think that this is
where right now you're in, this where everybody's in this
very emotional going to be in this very emotional state.
It's very very difficult time. But I would tell you
having lived through that as a child, as a sibling
of a child, and I was very close to my
sister Lenny, very close to her. She dam near raised
me because my father was also in the military. My

(57:06):
mother was a working woman, you know, so raising kids right.
So I always write about faith first because if we
learn anything from life, we learn that when the when
the most difficult times exist in our lives, the one
thing that we can return to is our faith, whether
it's praying quietly, whether it's going back to church, whether

(57:30):
it's going to a group of people who you who
you love and who love you back. And that's why
I talk about I've written quite a bit about true friendship,
because true friendship matters in a time like this. You know,
you find when the when the times are most difficult.
I did, when the times are most difficult, that true
friends come to you and uh and embrace you and

(57:50):
help you and never leave you. And I think from
from my experiences as a child, having lived through what
we live through as a as a sibling, you know,
as a person who was a sibling of a child,
an older sister who died very tragically, we could have
fallen apart, we could have lost everything you know, just
lost our minds, right, But instead it was our faith

(58:14):
that brought us back together and strengthened our family. And
that's why I always write about faith and family. That's
what this book, Pardon of Innocence is really about. It's
not about a woe as me. It's about how we
as Americans, we fight for each other. We fight for hope.
We stand with each other, we stand for hope. We
stand for hope in the future and a better and

(58:36):
better things to come. We don't know, you know, when
our day is going to be. We don't know why
that day is going to come or when it's going
to come. What we know is that when it happens,
are we prepared? Are we prepared in our faith? And
that's why I think that, you know, maybe it's maybe
it's it's appropriate that I, you know, that I'm here

(58:57):
today to strengthen you guys, because I was listening to
Jina prior for a few minutes and it's very emotional.
This is a very very difficult time. I have been
through many difficult times in my life. I've never lost
a child, and so I cannot imagine that I can
certainly have compassion for what they are going through. But

(59:19):
what we need to understand as Americans is that our
strength lies in our faith in God. Period. That's how
our country was founded upon. That's what we fought for,
and that's what we continue to fight for. And that's why,
you know, I continue to be as visible as public
and many times as controversial as possible, because we are

(59:42):
moving further and further away as a nation from our
Christian roots. And it is these moments and I can
only you know, I can only speculate, you know, these
moments that come to us as American citizens when these
sort of tragedies happen. You know, I don't know why,
I don't know when, I don't know how.

Speaker 11 (01:00:04):
I just know that the one thing.

Speaker 19 (01:00:06):
That we always talk about during these moments is our faith,
and we have to return to that. And I always
have said, very publicly, very many times that prayer is
the most powerful weapons system known to man. I talk
about that in the book, actually, because if you give
up on prayer, then you give up on life, and

(01:00:27):
you can do You can be chained to a wall,
lying on your back, and you can with all of
your freedoms taken, but you can still pray and I
think that that's that's my message here this morning with
you guys, is that you know, it's not it's it's
not about the direction of our country, oh my god.
You know, Trump has enough challenges on his plate every

(01:00:49):
single morning. It's about what is what is really meaningful
in our lives?

Speaker 11 (01:00:54):
Right?

Speaker 19 (01:00:54):
And when when these when these tragedy like this strikes,
and these parents parents are going through incredible levels of
grief and they will for a while, and there will
be there will be those who will outreach to them.
And that's a good thing because those others who have
gone through this type of tragedy will reach out to

(01:01:15):
these parents and maybe there will be groups formed and
and there will be good things that will come out
of this, like that young man that you had on
the show just prior to me, Gina, who who took
a tragedy and turned it into triumph. Right. And I
think that that's the message. We have to fight every
single day for what we believe in. And when certain

(01:01:38):
things happen, you know, and when tragedy strikes, how how
do you want to be? Do you want to be
you know, meek and and and and fall on your backside?
Or do you want to be strong and stand in
the you know, in the fulcrum of of of your
own legacy, your own life, your own family, and fight

(01:02:02):
back to recover some goodness that was part of these
young young children's lives.

Speaker 11 (01:02:08):
Chris, they were all.

Speaker 19 (01:02:09):
Good, These were all great, great young people, right, and
others who you know were devastated by this, but certainly
these young children whose lives were ahead of them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
So let's let's.

Speaker 19 (01:02:22):
Send that message. Let's make that message our message, our
collective message as Americans, to say, let's make something good
of this, and let's look at the future and make
it brighter.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
Well, we appreciate you coming on this show and giving
us such a word of encouragement, General, when we had
you on the show to talk about your book. It
will be next on my audible. The book is called
Pardon of Innocence and inspiring story of faith and freedom.
Perhaps living it more today than talking about it. General Flynn,
thank you so much for being with us, and thank

(01:02:52):
you for your service to our country and to our president.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
Thank you, God, bless guys, God bless you. Right, we'll
be back in just a moment.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
Breaking news from Real America's Voice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Welcome back to American sunrise. Everyone, I'm Terrence Bades. We
want to turn our attention back to what's happening in Texas.
Torrential rains have killed scores of people there. Here's a
look at how this tragedy is unfolded over the past
couple of days.

Speaker 14 (01:03:30):
The horrible tragedy down in Texas.

Speaker 15 (01:03:32):
Deluge of brain. It came in hard and fast. What
that resulted in was a deadly cresting.

Speaker 14 (01:03:38):
Then a matter of minutes it was up to twenty
nine feet.

Speaker 16 (01:03:40):
Is nothing short of biblical.

Speaker 17 (01:03:42):
I'm asking the people of Texas do some serious praying
this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
This is like a major hurricane.

Speaker 15 (01:03:49):
The Camp Mystic Christian Camp, some kids camped out for
the fourth of July.

Speaker 14 (01:03:53):
Twenty six feet and forty five minutes.

Speaker 16 (01:03:56):
Is that possible?

Speaker 15 (01:03:57):
You know that is possible. It got six confirms fatalities.
I pray that that does not increase.

Speaker 17 (01:04:04):
If they're alive, and say we will find that and
bring them home to you.

Speaker 16 (01:04:08):
They're follow not stopping role. America's voice. Also Weather Nation.

Speaker 18 (01:04:12):
This is right downtown Currville. When you see just trees
snap like twigs, go and pray, pray, pray for this community.
Today will be a hard day.

Speaker 14 (01:04:25):
The town manager comes up and says, it's going to
be a very tough day to day.

Speaker 16 (01:04:28):
I think that's a tell.

Speaker 14 (01:04:30):
Got people running to the sound of the guns to
find these children, to rescue them.

Speaker 15 (01:04:35):
Over two hundred and sixty rescues yesterday.

Speaker 18 (01:04:38):
This is a positive note.

Speaker 19 (01:04:40):
Obviously, you recovered twenty seven deceased fatalities at this time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
I have an eight nine year old camp and a
couple of the camp buildings were swept away.

Speaker 18 (01:04:49):
There are still twenty seven missing from camp.

Speaker 16 (01:04:51):
Mystic, back on your knee saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Prayer, see one one again there was no people.

Speaker 18 (01:04:57):
This kind of stuff really reminds you of what's really important.
These communities all coming together.

Speaker 24 (01:05:02):
This is what America is all about.

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
Sich.

Speaker 20 (01:05:04):
So young people have died. We'll take care of what work,
working with the governor. We're working with the govern it's
a terrible thing.

Speaker 21 (01:05:14):
We are going to address everybody's concern and there is
extraordinary collaboration.

Speaker 8 (01:05:21):
We're finding people as fast as possible, and we're returning
them to their families.

Speaker 17 (01:05:25):
The city officials here immediately sprung into action.

Speaker 18 (01:05:28):
We will rescue those in peril, and we will find
those who are missing.

Speaker 15 (01:05:33):
We're all working together, we're all communicating, and we will
not stop.

Speaker 22 (01:05:36):
You can go back and look at your own forecast,
and the amount of brain that fell at this specific
location was never at any of those forecasts. If you're
all immediate, you got that forecast, it did not predict
the amount of.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Brain that we saw.

Speaker 23 (01:05:46):
My thanks to President Trump and Secretary Known for responding
so quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
We still have work to do.

Speaker 14 (01:05:53):
We're still prayerful, we're still hopeful.

Speaker 22 (01:05:55):
Also have volunteers all over this county that do the
job for free that we're out there working to save lives,
many times putting their own lives and their property at risk.

Speaker 18 (01:06:04):
Having covered the North Carolina and Tennessee and Georgia Hurricane
Helene and the disaster, you know, I'm already seen a
huge difference here the way the federal government is. I
just thank god President Trump's in there. I thank god
Christine Holam's in there. Lift them up in your prayers.

Speaker 8 (01:06:21):
Our first responders are rock stars and heroes what they do,
and they're exhausted. They've been doing this now for several
days and it's not going to end any time soon.

Speaker 24 (01:06:32):
Lord, I just.

Speaker 18 (01:06:33):
Lift them up to you right now, especially if there's
any girls that are still alive that are afraid they're alone.

Speaker 24 (01:06:39):
I just pray you'd be with them right now.

Speaker 18 (01:06:40):
Lord, I pray in this situation that you would be
the God of comfort to this community, but you would
do miracles from.

Speaker 24 (01:06:46):
Now on and we would see miracles happen.

Speaker 18 (01:06:48):
I pray for your hand on this community, in this state,
in this nation, in Jesus name. Amen, God bless you guys.
God bless America will continue to cover.

Speaker 24 (01:06:58):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
You are an Audism patriots, And one other things I
know about patriots in this country is that we pitch
in when our fellow patriots and fellow countrymen are in need.
And so there are several opportunities for you to pitch
in and help out there in Central Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Cross Kingdom Church.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
You can reach them via venmo at Cross Kingdom seventy seven.
If you'd like to donate there for recovery at efforts
the Kerr County Flood Relief Fund, you can find that
online as well. All of this information here on your
screen as well. Of course, you can always go to
the American Red Cross of Central and South Texas and
donate or offer up support there, and then there's the

(01:07:37):
Austin Pets Alive Group. Those are just a few of
the agencies who are offering rescue, recovery and relief efforts
there in the central Texas area.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
So if you'd like to donate, you can donate to
any of these agencies.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Here on your screen, we're back with more American Sunrise
in a moment alive look at the White House here
where President Trump will be hosting Benjamin Nett and Yahoo

(01:08:13):
the Israeli Prime Minister later on today. The President also
scheduled to sign some new executive orders today. We of course,
will be covering all of that for you live here
on Real America's Voice. In the meantime, getting ready for
the opening bell at the New York Stock Exchange this
Monday morning. Not starting off on such a great note,
as you can see the Dow, the S and P
five hundred, and the NASDAC all in the red now

(01:08:35):
gold silver also down. The only bright spot, if you will,
is crude oil, which happens to be up at the moment.
We'll take you to New York for the opening bell
at the Stock Exchange here in short order.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
But first let's get you over to David Birdie.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Okay, Te Bates, appreciate it. Joining us now before the
opening bells. The host of the early edition of American Sunrise,
I'd be Jake Novak. We know Jake. He's up earlier
than us. Jake, good to see you. So let's talk
about this because the markets have been on a great
winning streak, but Wednesday could be a potential new roadblock

(01:09:09):
if investors don't learn from what's happened already this year.
Let's talk about that. Good morning, good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Well, the first thing they should learn is not to.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Actually, Jake, gave me a second. We've got Ben burkwam
with Ted Cruz, soh storry breaking news. Let's go to that. Now,
stand by, Jake. Do we have it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
We don't have it? Okay, Well we are waiting or
are we standing by for some sort of breaking news?
So Jake take it away until we have it.

Speaker 27 (01:09:41):
Well, you know, Wednesday could be a big day. It
would have been a big day, David, if they didn't
learn that deadlines and this trade deals that are going
on don't mix. The President has been using different strategies
as he's been negotiating with other countries so as you remember,
David in April when the market freaked out, hit bolt,
you know, hit a year low on expecting these tariffs

(01:10:03):
to go into place at a particular time, at a
particular place against certain country countries, and then it didn't
turn out that way. As we just had that happen
just again, we were expecting Wednesday a bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Of yeah, now we got them, all right, Senator Ted Cruise,
We're Ben burkewam in Kerrville, Texas.

Speaker 18 (01:10:20):
Ben go ahead, Hey, yeah, thank you, David. I actually
am out here with Senator Ted Cruz. Senator, just an
absolute tragedy. You know, your state, talk to us about
your your feelings, your experience this morning.

Speaker 11 (01:10:36):
Wow, listen, Texas. What has happened here is heartbreaking, and
our state is grieving and grieving at a level that
there are a lot of tears. There's a lot of
agony over the flooding that happened. You know, Kirk County,
where we are right now, in the Hill Country, is
I think the prettiest part of Texas. The Guadalupe River
is a beautiful river right now. It is it is

(01:10:58):
still at higher levels and running faster, and and it
is I've floated and gone swimming in this river dozens
of times. And for a century, this has been an
oasis where where kids Texans, little boys and little girls
come to summer camp. And and what happened with this floods.
We now have eighty two confirmed fatalities, twenty eight of

(01:11:22):
those are children. There's still ten ten kids that are
missing from Camp Mystic And and this is every parent's nightmare,
every every little boy, every little girl who goes to camp.
Mom and dad are celebrating and the nightmare of losing
their child. I'll tell you. In the last several days,
I've spoken with multiple parents who were just panicking, whose

(01:11:45):
little girl was on the list of missing and and
there they don't know what to do, and and I've
tried to connect them with the sheriff, with emergency management,
with the search and rescue teams. But there's enormous grief
going on. At the same time, I think we've seen
incredible heroism, incredible bravery. We had over eight hundred and

(01:12:05):
fifty rescues from the flooding. We saw the Coastguard with
incredible heroism and the National Guard with incredible heroism, and
and we saw DPS with incredible heroism, and we see
that every time there is a crisis, a natural disaster
in Texas, Texans come together. They help each other. Some

(01:12:27):
of the stories of bravery from this flooding Eagle scouts
helping little campers out of their cabins, saving their lives.
One woman who floated four miles down this river with
debris and everything floating by her, grabbed a tree, held
onto the tree she was rescued. We're seeing great bravery
and we're also seeing an outpouring of love. I want

(01:12:48):
to say to everyone across Texas and across the country,
thank you for your prayers, thank you for your love.
Texans feel it. Those moms and dads that are living
through this nightmare right now, they feel your love and
prayer and lifting them up. We will come through this,
but it is a time of great grief.

Speaker 18 (01:13:06):
You know, And that's obviously the focus still the ten
missing young girls. I'm a dad of three young girls,
and I cannot imagine my daughter's out. It's just it's
so heartbreaking. And I look at some of what the
coverage is and second guessing, you know. Monday morning quarterbacking.

(01:13:26):
I'm from Arkansas now and from Texas. You know these
weather systems are you have no idea what's coming. What
is your message to the people out there? Obviously, the
focus right now is on finding those little girls, finding
the missing, restoring them to their families, and the grief
and prayers for those families. But what's your message on
all the rest where you see the media trying to
shift blame and already playing that game.

Speaker 11 (01:13:48):
Well, listen, the focus needs to be in any crisis
on the first stage of search and rescue, getting people
out of harm's way, and that has got to be
the priority, and it has been the priority. We've still
got ten girls that are missing or praying that those
girls are found safe, and that is critically important. Then
there's rebuilding and recovery. And look, there are people throughout

(01:14:09):
Central Texas who've lost their homes, who've lost everything, and
this is where the church really matters. The church is
stepping up, and look, the church should be doing this
every day, but in the face of crisis is especially
a time to show God's love, to help your neighbor,
to feed and clothe your neighbor, to help comfort a
grieving mom or dad with an inconsolable pain, All of

(01:14:34):
that is critical. You know, you talked about your three daughters.
I'm a girl dad. I have two daughters. My daughters
have gone to camp right here in Hunt, Texas for
a decade. Just last week we picked our youngest daughter
up from camp right here. It was just a few
days before this flooding occurred. And so as we're watching this,

(01:14:56):
and look, the kids that go to camp here come
from all all over the state. So we have friends
and neighbors whose girls were at Camp Mystic. We have
classmates of my daughters at school who are third graders
who were either killed or are still missing. And it's
it's not the way it's supposed to work. Kids are

(01:15:17):
supposed to bury your parents. Your daughters are supposed to
bury you. My daughters are supposed to bury me. And
when a child is taken, it's I think the hardest
pain of anything. You asked about the politicization, and you're right.
With any tragedy, there are people that try to play
politics with it. They try to blame their political opponents.

(01:15:39):
And in today's partisan world, if there's a hurricane, if
there's a tornado, if there's a flood, there are some
who want to say it's all Donald Trump's fault, because
everything bad they say is Donald Trump's fault. Look, I
think that is wrong, it is inappropriate, and I think
most people don't want to see partisan fingerpa pointing. What
they want to see is let's come together and let's

(01:16:01):
get through this, and then afterwards, after we rebuild, there
does need to be a process, a process of carefully
looking back and saying, Okay, what could have been done
differently to save more lives? How could the response have
been better? We know that the warnings went out from
the National Weather Service just after one am and just
after four am. Obviously most people were asleep then and

(01:16:23):
they missed those warnings, And so I think it's perfectly
reasonable to have a conversation. We know floods will occur,
natural disasters occur. How can we be better at being proactive?
And in hindsight, everyone would agree that we should not
have had little girls, particularly seven and eight year old,
the youngest girls on the camp in cabins right by

(01:16:44):
the river's edge as the flood warnings were coming out.
And in hindsight, I hope we have a better system
to have an early warning and then act proactively to
remove the children, remove anyone vulnerable from harm's way to
prevent this loss of life. That's a reasonable and infect
very important conversation to have, but it shouldn't be in
the context of just trying to score political points. It

(01:17:06):
should be learning lessons. And by the way, we do
that with regard to hurricanes. You know, I'm from Houston.
We deal with hurricanes all the time on the Gulf Coast,
and as we go through multiple hurricanes, you learn lessons about,
all right, how do you proactively get people out of
harm's way to reduce the loss of life. And I
hope in the face of this horrible tragedy that if

(01:17:29):
one positive thing comes out of it is that we
improve our emergency response to be quicker and more effective
getting people out of harm's way so that we're not
dealing with this kind of terrible loss of life.

Speaker 18 (01:17:42):
Hey man, Well, God bless you. Thank you for being
out here, and we continue to pray for the families,
for the victims, as you said as a dad, especially
the parents that have lost their children. We lift them
up and we ask you to do the same.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Amen.

Speaker 24 (01:17:55):
Thank you, sir. Everyone.

Speaker 18 (01:17:58):
Ted Cruz Senator Ted Cruz from Texas, David, are you
guys still with us. Did you want to anything you
guys get.

Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
Texas, Yeah, if you can.

Speaker 6 (01:18:10):
Texas Governor Greg Abbott also spoke on the tragedy in
the Lone Star State.

Speaker 7 (01:18:14):
Take a look at this.

Speaker 28 (01:18:15):
I had the opportunity yesterday to visit Cat Mystic and
get to see firsthand what happened there as well as
all the way downstream after that, and it was nothing
short of horrific to see what those young children went through.
And we will remain one hundred percent dedicated searching for

(01:18:37):
every single one of the children who were at Camp Mystic,
as well as anybody else and the entire river bed
to make sure that they're going.

Speaker 16 (01:18:45):
To be recovered.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
All right, to Ben and Senator Cruz, you're still there.
I just want to give you a chance to react
to what Governor Abbot was saying. And uh and Ben,
if you can, if you can ask a Senator Cruz
what does he foresee in terms of changes that might
be policy related to this?

Speaker 18 (01:19:12):
And and the senators on comso he heard all that?

Speaker 11 (01:19:14):
Go ahead, center, Well, listen, I think there will be
a careful retrospective that that we'll look at. How do
you proactively avoid this sort of crisis in the future.
Steps that strike me as natural. Number one, I think
it's worth reassessing do you have cabins right along the
river's edge. If you if you look at some of
the cabins in these camps are higher up in the hills,

(01:19:36):
They're further from the water. I think that that clearly
is safer.

Speaker 8 (01:19:40):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (01:19:40):
And and also what was the process when when there
were there were warnings as early as the afternoon that
that flooding was possible. The warnings got much more severe
and urgent as the night went on. What's the process
to make sure that you don't have everybody asleep when
you realize that a crisis is coming. Because what we
all wish had happened is before this flood hit hit,

(01:20:02):
we wish that someone had gone down and taken these
girls and put them in a truck, put them in
a van and taking them up to higher ground. And
if that had happened, we would have a much lower
loss of life. The RVs that were right along the
river that were swept into the river look tragically. You see,
when you have tornadoes and hurricanes and flooding, mobile homes

(01:20:23):
and RVs are particularly vulnerable to that. And so in
terms of the early warning, and as I said, I
actually think the hurricane analogy has has a lot a
lot to apply here with hurricanes. Now, I think we're
much more proactive in saying, Okay, there's a hurricane that's coming,
what are the homes that are right on the water's
edge that are the most vulnerable, and sending law enforcement
in there. And you've got people who are stubborn, I

(01:20:44):
don't want to leave, and sending people to say, look,
it is really critical you leave. I wish we had
done a better job of getting people out of harm's way.
And I hope coming out of this that we can
put in place processes for the next flood that happens.
And there will be another flood, there will be another tornado,
there will be another hurricane, but we can do a

(01:21:07):
more effective job being proactive in terms of removing people
from vulnerable locations.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Senator David Brody here, we've known each other for a
very long time. It's good to see you none under
these circumstances. Your father, obviously, Rafael Cruz, a pastor, you
have a deep faith. I'm wondering if you can address
to our audience the question and It's an age old
question when God doesn't make sense. I know pastor James
Dobson wrote a book about this. I'm curious to get

(01:21:36):
your thoughts in this time.

Speaker 11 (01:21:37):
Good morning to you, you know, David. It's a question
that everyone struggles with, and why does God allow bad
things to happen to good people? Why does God allow
bad things to happen to young children? And I will
say there are theologians and pastors who've been unable to
answer that question for millennia. And I don't know how

(01:21:58):
that I have any additional in sight other than saying
God is a good and loving God and he will
help us through this. And I will say, in the
last few years, I've got several friends who have tragically
lost children and and I think it is the hardest
challenge to go through and and all I know to
do is is to lean on God, to lean on prayer,

(01:22:19):
to lean on family, to lean on friends and and
and just just grieve. But it is a grieving process.
And and look, I think every mom and dad this
week has asked themselves what if that was me? What
if that was my little girl? What if that where
that was my little boy? Yeah, we have a good

(01:22:40):
and benevolent God. But but God allows things to happen
sometimes that that defy human explanation. And that's where we
need love and where we need grace, and and and
and this is a time, this is a time in
particular for the church, for the church to do what
the church should be doing every day. But in a
time of greed, I think the church has a particular

(01:23:02):
responsibility to step up. And I do think Texas has benefited.
We have such a strong community of believers in Texas
that that that you have, you have churches that step
in and do the role we should.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Senator Cruz, we appreciate your time. We understand that you've
got to get going, but we appreciate you taking out
a few minutes to be here with us continued support
for your for your family, and for your state.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Thank you so much, Senator Cruz.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Ben, if you'll stick around, we want to continue our
coverage here. Senator Cruz again, thanks so much. All right, Ben,
we appreciate you securing that interview. This is such a
difficult time and I feel you. You and I have
spoken a lot about our daughters, and so when you

(01:23:51):
hear these sorts of stories, I think as girl dads,
it hits us even more, not that it doesn't hit
anyone else, but I think it it affects us that
much more. Talk about today, let's kind of move the
story forward, because I was reading earlier today, Ben that
there's even more rain in the forecast. And I'm sure
that by now you've had an opportunity to talk to
some of the rescue and search crews out there, some

(01:24:14):
of the first responders relay some of the stories that
they were laying to you and the emotional impact that
all of this is having on them as they're trying
to do their job, trying to save lives, but also
seeing the reality of what is there on the ground.

Speaker 18 (01:24:31):
Yeah. Well, just to your point, Terrence, we were under
floodwatch up until seven pm last night, so you add,
you know, rain on top of the already this disaster
we have. Really what it did was just create more
fear in the community. People, you know, wondering is it
gonna flood again. Thankfully we didn't see near the amount
of flooding. But this isn't the only area where this

(01:24:52):
is happening. The entire Texas Hill Country has been hit
by this, both downstream and on the Guadalupe, but also
a lot of the tributaries around this area several hundred
miles where this all the way up to Austin, where
this weather system basically just parked for the last several
days and dumped just unbelievable amounts of water. And so

(01:25:13):
that was the big fear. Looking at the forecast going forward,
nothing to the extent of what we've seen over the
last several days. There will there are, there are showers
in the forecast, but nothing like we've saw on the
fourth of July or the third of July, or even
some of what we saw yesterday. So thank God for that.
It looks like it's going to be drying out at
least not to the flood stage levels. To the first responders,

(01:25:36):
I mean, these are some of the bravest, toughest, best
Americans that we have. And the community as well. The
community is coming together in such a way. I just
had a couple come up to me and tell me
about the Church of Christ, the local Church of Christ.
And by the way, I want to make a couple comments.
I'm gonna pull this up on my phone real quick
so I don't get it wrong. There are a couple

(01:25:58):
organizations that we want to highlight. First off, the Community
Foundation of Texas Hill Country. That's the primary organization that
we're recommending that that locals are recommending to donate to.
That goes directly to the local community, unlike the Red Cross,
who may take that money and use it on illegals
the next time the illegal invasion happens. If you give
to the Community Foundation of Texas Hill Country, that money

(01:26:22):
is gonna stay here.

Speaker 24 (01:26:23):
With this community.

Speaker 18 (01:26:25):
There's also I just got spoke to this, this couple
on Harper Roads six twenty five harperad Road, Cerville, the
United Church of Christ in Town. They just got a
massive truck in, a semi truckload of supplies anything people need.
This is this is an issue. This is a disaster
that isn't a day long, not a week long, not

(01:26:45):
a month long.

Speaker 24 (01:26:45):
This is going to be a.

Speaker 18 (01:26:46):
Years long rebuilding, recovery, restoration process. And so the organizations
are coming together. But that's what I would recommend. Talk
to the local churches, talk to the local organizations, and
for the first respect, pray for them, continue to lift
them up, thank them in particular these guys that are
out there at seventy two hours Some of these guys

(01:27:07):
haven't slept.

Speaker 24 (01:27:08):
Some of them have just been NonStop.

Speaker 18 (01:27:09):
We heard about the rescue swimmer first time out in
the water saved over one hundred and sixty one hundred
and sixty five people. I'm sure that's much more than that.
That was as of yesterday in his first out or
going out to rescue lives. So all of this, all
of these first responders, everybody is giving everything they have.
They're not sleeping, and in fact, they're you know, they're

(01:27:31):
rightfully annoyed at the media. They're doing these press conferences
and they're not answering very many questions afterwards because their
primary focus is on saving lives and recovering lives. And
so just give them some leeway, give them some breathing room,
let them do their job. I was at the Morgue
yesterday and I'll just tell you I saw several bodies

(01:27:52):
being brought in while I was there. And you know,
when you see a baby, a young a young child
in the in the in the situation, in the state
that they're in now, it's really hard. It's really hard
to do that job. And these guys are doing that

(01:28:14):
over and over and over again. So I can't say
enough about what they're doing, and in particular why it's
so important that us that we focus on that, on
the life, on the tragedy, but also on the miracles
that have happened, on the restoration of families, on lifting
these communities up, and in particular bringing the communities and

(01:28:36):
our country back together. You know, sadly, it's it's events
like this that that sometimes it takes for us to
remember what's important. And when you have something like this,
you realize we are a United States of America, the
Texas in particular the Texas community. They are a united family.

(01:28:57):
And and that's what I pray. I pray that we
become more united out of this. We do find solutions
that we can to you know, any problem that we have,
we always should be looking for potential solutions to fix
it in the future. But the most important thing we
can do as a people has come together. And that's
my prayer. Yeah, for this community and for our country.

Speaker 7 (01:29:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:16):
Ben, I heard you know, you speak about being a
father and heard one woman interviewed her husband woke her family.
They were at a family camp. They had cabins right
on the very front of the river. There as well,
as you're discussing, her husband stayed up all night because
he was just nervous. He just had a feeling about it,
and they he woke them in the middle of the
night and said, grab the dogs, grab each other, don't
take our things, go up to the bathhouse. They got

(01:29:38):
up to the bathhouse watched all of the cabins down
below washed away. As a man came out of the
bathhouse and said, oh my gosh, my whole family is
down there.

Speaker 7 (01:29:47):
So these are the.

Speaker 6 (01:29:48):
Sorts of things that people will have to grapple with,
as you mentioned, not for days, for weeks, for months.
This is this is years of recovery and hopefully years
of prayer. Ben, and thank you for mentioning that community
foundation for Texas Hill Country, because you don't know what
the Red Cross is going to do with your money.
Some very corrupt policies there, so we want to make
sure that that is emphasized as well. Ben, thanks for

(01:30:08):
pointing that out.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
Can I just yea quickly say one thing just before
before we go to break. It's also important to understand
that up in that hill country, cell service is extremely spotty.
So this idea that the warnings came in and you know,
and people are starting to say, you know, oh they
maybe they didn't heed the warnings. Come on, folks, I mean,
the truth of the matter is is that it's very
difficult to get cell service up there. We're seeing people

(01:30:31):
in our chat talk about this, and I wanted to
represent the chat and others that are saying we need
to have some understanding and grace and just reality of
what happens up there in Hill County.

Speaker 6 (01:30:41):
So I just want to point that woman that was
like it was interviewed that you know that she watched
as this man she'd gotten her whole family up to
the bathhouse to a higher level where it was say
watch this man come out and say, oh my gosh,
that was my whole family's cabin that just went under.
That woman said, you know, now we think, oh my gosh,
why didn't we honk the horn, Why didn't we do something? Well,
you just it's three o'clock in the morning. You're thinking

(01:31:02):
if if the.

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
Flood isn't happening.

Speaker 6 (01:31:04):
That you're afraid of, you're going to be the really
bad guy for waking everyone at three in the morning.
I mean, people were having to make those kinds of
split second decisions.

Speaker 18 (01:31:11):
Ben, Yeah, yeah, and if I can jump in on
that too. You know, living in Arkansas, now that we're
used to this, we're used to seeing weather forecasts that
are are you know, tornado warnings, no tornado comes, massive flooding,
no flooding happens. Then you don't get any warning, and
all of a sudden flooding happens. The you know, the
the that's how. And it's not even the prediction models,

(01:31:34):
it's just the weather. It'll change. You know, There'll be
clouds that were coming here all of a sudden we're
getting dumped on and then they disappear. The way the
weather systems work down here, you can't predict. I mean,
it's very very difficult to predict exactly when and where
that's going to happen. And as you mentioned on top
of that at the time of that, to try to
to try to second guess, oh yeah, you know, how

(01:31:54):
do we do that?

Speaker 24 (01:31:55):
The other thing?

Speaker 6 (01:31:55):
But I'm so sorry then we're yelling in my but
thank you so much for being so generous with your
time and your heart and your prayer. And some American
sunrise will return just right after these messages, thinks.

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
Then let's Spill Some Tea.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
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let's get right into what's in the cup today, and
we're talking about sour grapes and bitter herbs. Check out
this headline which reads Democrats project doom and gloom, not

(01:33:07):
celebration with Fourth of July messages. We're talking about people
who are actually at the helm of the United States.
First up, the woman who might have been the first
female president of the United States who now can't just
seemed not to spit poison. Unlike her word salads that
left us all pretty confused. The former vice president was

(01:33:28):
straight to the point and said, quote this fourth of July,
I'm taking a moment to reflect. Things are hard right now.
They are probably going to get worse before they get better.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
She wrote.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
President Obama taking it one step further, saying, quote, at
this moment in history, when core democratic were principles seem
to be continuously under attack, when too many people around
the world have become cynical and disengaged, now is precisely
the time to ask ourselves tough questions about how we
can build our democracies and make them work in meaningful

(01:34:02):
and practical ways for ordinary people.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
That's from the former president. There.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
Let's bring in David and doctor Gina to discuss this
a little bit more. During what should have been a
celebratory time and time to celebrate our nation's independence and
its history. Some of those comments not really ringing very
patriotic to some people.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
David, Yeah, the doom and Gloom Party, And it's not
just Barack Obama and Kamala Harris, it's the Democrats writ
large their messages. You know, Oh my gosh, Trump's Trump's
evil and the world is collapsing. And what has that
got them? Got him a second Trump term by the way, China.

Speaker 6 (01:34:41):
Yeah, I mean it does feel like doom and gloom
to them because they have become such a hedonistic, dishonest
party that they don't have anywhere to go from here.
There in a literal tailspin downward spiral. And the more
they try to talk their way out of it, it seems,
the more they just lie and try to deceive the

(01:35:03):
American public, and the more the American public distrusts them
and goes toward the party that you know. I mean,
let's be honest, the Republican Party is far from perfect.
I could listen, I can do a laundry list, having
been involved in this party for decades now. But let
me say this, many in the Republican Party have taken

(01:35:23):
the lead of President Trump and become much more authentic
in their approach to politics, you know, just even citing
their own weaknesses, just being themselves, whether the American public
goes that's the way a politician is supposed to act
or not. Right, So, the Democrats could really take a
page right now, stop and reflect.

Speaker 7 (01:35:43):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:35:43):
The first thing they honestly need to do is come
back to God. The Democrat Party did not used to
be the party of godlessness. It is now and there's
never going to be a blessing in that. So until
they wake up to that factoid, then they could maybe
start to rebuild that. I don't know what they do
until then, Terrence, I have to.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Leave the conversation there. Appreciate you guys's insight. We're back
with more American Sunrise after this.

Speaker 6 (01:36:11):
Welcome back to American soon Rise. I'm back to GEMI
thank you for joining us today. Thanks to all of
you in the chat. I just want to say for
being so I just I don't know, I feel like
I learned so much there. I know that David and
Terrence feel the same way. Before we sign off, we
of course want to pray for strength for the victims
and survivors of the Texas floods. I can't get the

(01:36:33):
images out of my head. I feel like, you know,
there's just so so so many times in life where
you just you're really called back to who you are
at your core, and I feel like this, if there's
one good thing that can be taken out of the tragedy,
maybe that's a step into it, David, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Yeah, And you know what, I think it's okay to
say I don't know. I think we're all saying I
don't know not about God. God sits on the throne,
There's no doubt about it, and his purposes are good
even when we see horrible tragedies. And that's why I
think a lot of people just can get confused. But look,
we live in a sinful world, and we live in

(01:37:16):
a world that is you know, it's got a lot
of you know, I mean, these are just tragedies, you know,
I don't know. There's just a whole lot of theological
stuff to get through. But let me just say this,
I so much enjoy being part of RAV because we
see all of this through a prism of God, and

(01:37:40):
we're just not going to get the coverage anywhere else.
We're just not, especially as it relates to kind of
like the mainstream secular television networks. So just what we've
shown this morning and some of the highlight reels of
what we're showing and what we're doing out there, that's
what it's all about. Covering the news, but doing it
with purposes that are much high than.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Just the news.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Yeah, you know, we often talk about, you know, American exceptionalism,
and I think times like this we really see it
highlighted when entire communities, when the country comes together to
help our fellow American. And that's what we're going to
be seeing over the next several days. We're already seeing
it happen. And it's just something I appreciate about this country,
how in difficult times we all pitch in to try

(01:38:24):
to help our fellow neighbor, to try to help our
fellow American. And I'm excited about what we can be
doing here on Raven, what I'll be doing personally as well.

Speaker 6 (01:38:31):
Yeah, and if you have a specially if you have
a church that you're a member of, find out if
they have a branch there. I always think it's just
good to donate locally. I really feel that way having
been through this tragedy in Alabama.

Speaker 7 (01:38:44):
We'll be back again tomorrow eight am Eastern. We will
see you. Then we'll room up next to go boldly
out live the truth.

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