American Sunrise - May 29th, 2025 - Real America’s Voice

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ahead on American Sunrise. Elon Musk is out as he
is leaving the Trump administration. How will this impact the
work of DOGE? Plus President Trump raising the One Big,
Beautiful Bill passed by the House for eliminating regulations, but
the Senate has its own issues with it. When can
we see a final deal? Plus President Trump says Canada
is considering an offer to become the fifty first state

(00:22):
in exchange for Golden Dome security. We have all the
latest and finally, a new piece in The Guardian lays
out how Trump is viewed on the world stage. We
have those stories and much more. As American Sunrise starts
right now.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Good morning, America.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Welcome to American Sunrise.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Well, it's culture.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
We have breaking news to share with you.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Politics.

Speaker 5 (00:46):
President Trump is joining us live now from Florida.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
We've got your company.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
This is what it looks like to be a patriot.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
We have to protect the American family.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
The American dream is still alive. I'm David Brody, I'm Terrence,
and I'm doctor Kenna.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
Good morning everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I'm Bo Davidson filling in for doctor Gina live from
beautiful West Palm Beach, and let's bring in now David
Brody in Washington, d C. And Terrence Bates in our
Denver newsroom. Good morning, gentlemen.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
How are you Bo well?

Speaker 7 (01:22):
Hello Bo?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hello, Hello, It's great to see you both. Great to
be back here. Three guys, three boxes.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
What do we do? Where do we go from here? Gentlemen?

Speaker 8 (01:30):
You know that is the question, because there's already so
much news coming out this morning, guys. Obviously a lot
of people this is probably what you'll see mostly on
the headlines and around the country talking about Elon Musk
that his one hundred and thirty days as a special
government employee is about to expire. That's going to happen tomorrow.
But David, I think the bigger story here is this

(01:52):
trade court that came out and basically nixed or at
least put on ice President Trump's Terrence, I think that's
a huge story that's probably to be underreported today.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, I have three words. Those freaking judges. I mean,
here they go again. And this is just a small
and bond panel, just two to one. But look, this
is what the Trump administration is up against time and
time again, and everybody talks about a constitutional crisis in
this country. From the left you know, the folks on
the left are saying it's about the Trump administration. No,

(02:23):
the constitutional crisis here are about rogue judges, and we
saw its rear, its ugly head.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Again.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
It's big story. It's a big story. And the Elon
Musk story is also big. I mean, let's be honest,
and if we could just take a truth pill here
for just a quick second. Well, actually we do truth
pills and truth bombs all the time here on the show.
But as it relates to Elon Musk, look, if things
were going swimmingly, and I'm talking about regarding him and

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his dealings with the cabinet, there were cabinet secretaries frustrated
a bit about how he was a bit over his
skis and some stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I think he probably would have stayed longer.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
I know, Tesla's having some misson and they're spinning it
as that that's part of it. But I think if
it was going over better internally, he probably wouldn't be
leaving just so quickly. But because he can always renew
for another or whatever it is, ninety days, one hundred
and eighty days, whatever it is, So I think that's
part of it, that there was some tension there, and
I think he's moving.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
On because of that.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I'm just being fully honest because that's what our audience
wants and you're not going to get it anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well, and David makes your take, Well, my take is
I think the man was like Atlas taking the world
on his shoulders. I mean, he's a private businessman. He's
had successful businesses. He comes in to work on Doge.
It was teased and then now he did it, you know,
and we'll talk about it later in the show. But
he's been the whipping boy, you know, for so much
and I think undeservedly.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's a good point.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
But my question, David and Terrence says, who comes in
after him? Because he's a competent man. Remember Vvek was
going to come in but then he had to run
for another position.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
So who replaces Elon?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Must do we have competent people waiting in the wing
to do his job.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
That's really my question.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's not just him.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
He's got go ahead, go ahead, David, Ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (04:05):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (04:05):
I was just gonna say, there's a team in place,
and what i'd like to see. I know we're gonna fight.
What I'd like to see, is that some of the moves,
some of the that the framework.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Has already sad.

Speaker 8 (04:14):
I think the foundation is set, and so now you
just kind of, I think, follow the roadmap. You don't
necessarily need one person heading that up. President Trump heads
that up, if you will. But the roadmap is there,
and I think you just need people to continue to
follow the roadmap, and more importantly, to codify and make
this a consistent thing, not just a one hit pony,
one trip pony.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
That's my thought, David, we have three words, No, I
have three words.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Again what he said, I agree to Bates.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
You know, Elon Musk has laid the template down, and
so it's not the template of doom, by the way,
thank you very much, a little movie reference. It's actually
a template of something very good in this country that
that will take place. And now the cabinet secretaries and
others and the geek squad is still going to be there.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
They're going to be uh charged.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
With continuing on the mission and God, and you gotta
hand it to Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I mean, look, he's even come out against the big
beautiful Bill.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
He's got some real concerns about the death debt and
deficit spending.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I mean he's very honest.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Uh, sometimes maybe too honest to the point where you know,
he doesn't need to say everything he needs to say.

Speaker 9 (05:19):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
It cannot be helpful politically, but at least he's being
honest and you got to give him that.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
And that's what they want, David, they want honesty. Well,
for more wisdom and honesty, let's check out today's Bible verse, gentlemen,
Colossians two six says, as you therefore have received Christ
Jesus the Lord, so walk in him. And that is
absolutely a dose of honesty this morning. Well, the Senate
is running into roadblocks and getting the budget deal done.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
No surprise is there.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
The Hill is reporting that some aides believe this debate
could go past the fourth of July. Some senators are
weary of medicaid cuts, like Missouri Senator Josh Hawley and
Main Senator Susan Collins along with Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski.
Then we have more conservative members like Might Lee of
Utah and Rick Scott of Florida who support the medicaid cuts.
So when can we see a deal? Well, for more

(06:03):
on this, let's bring in former Trump spokesperson Liz Harrington. Liz,
first of all, I want to ask you just about
what Terrence and David and I were talking about. What
do you make of musk leaving, and if you could
give us a grade on how well you think Elon
did in his time at DOGE.

Speaker 10 (06:17):
Well, good morning. I think he was always going to leave.
He wasn't going to stay very long. I think that
was set from the beginning, so this was inevitable. David
might have a point there. You might have, you know,
decided to stay longer if things were really building momentum,
And I think that was kind of the problem. They
came in so hot and did so many great things,

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and then they got so much pushback and stonewalled, and
it was clear that Congress wasn't going to work with them,
and I think he probably got frustrated, as a lot
of people do just watching it. I mean, this is insane.
How can we not get this government under control? And
you also alluded to it with the story about the

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tear and these judges. I mean, to be honest with you,
why do we even have elections? I mean, what's the
point you finally get President Trump back in there and
his agenda. He's so clear and honest with the American people.
He's doing all the things he said he was going
to do, and literally everything he's done now, including the terriffs.

Speaker 11 (07:19):
Are being blocked by these out.

Speaker 10 (07:22):
Of control, tyrannical judges. So I mean, you have to
get frustrated, and maybe that was part of it, but
I wish they would have done more.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I wish they would.

Speaker 10 (07:32):
Have just continued to do what they did in the
beginning with USAID and exposing this fraud, exposing the waste,
but they kind of didn't get the momentum going forward,
and now we're kind of at the status quo again.
So I hope President Trump will get that momentum back.

Speaker 11 (07:50):
I think we will if we can get this bill.

Speaker 10 (07:52):
Through, because they're kind of conflating these two pieces when
they're really separate. I mean, this bill is about the
tax cuts, the regulation agenda, ending the invasion.

Speaker 12 (08:04):
It does so.

Speaker 10 (08:05):
Many good things, and then they're using the biased and
crooked CBO to say that this is about the deficit
and debt when letting us keep more of our money, which.

Speaker 11 (08:17):
Is the status quo.

Speaker 10 (08:17):
By the way, because the tax cuts are still to
effect until September, does not increase the deficit. I mean,
that's a lie going back so many years. Rush Limbaugh
totally destroyed that narrative so long ago, and yet we're.

Speaker 11 (08:30):
Falling into it. Those issues are separate.

Speaker 10 (08:34):
Congress does need to get a dack together and start
codifying what President Trump his agenda are doing so these
rogue judges can't block everything.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
You talked about the one big, beautiful bill.

Speaker 8 (08:47):
Right now, it seems to be facing some stumbling blocks
in the US Senate. President Trump has even said that
he's going to start negotiating with senators to try to
do away with some of the provisions he doesn't necessarily
agree with.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Or try to find common ground.

Speaker 8 (09:01):
Are you at all concerned about this bill getting done
by July fourth? And more importantly, could this be a
potential achilles heel for the administration at this point?

Speaker 13 (09:12):
Well?

Speaker 10 (09:12):
I think they will get it done, but I think
again there's some frustration among the American people is what
else have they been doing?

Speaker 12 (09:19):
What has Congress been doing?

Speaker 10 (09:20):
They haven't been notifying anything that the administration has done. Supposedly,
this is what they've been working on, and the House
got it done by one vote, but that was a
little shaky. Too, and now the Senate's even worse.

Speaker 11 (09:36):
It's pathetic.

Speaker 10 (09:37):
I think people are so tired of seeing all the
days off, they barely work, and yet they can't get
these concrete things that President Trump ran on just through
fast and quickly, so we can move on to attacking
the budget, to doing all the other things that President
Trump is doing and wants to get in place.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
So again, I think they.

Speaker 11 (10:02):
Will get it through.

Speaker 10 (10:03):
And President Trump has a good relationship with a lot
of people over there.

Speaker 11 (10:07):
But again, why does it.

Speaker 10 (10:08):
All have to be on him? Why can't he have
more allies that will stick together and get the agenda through?
And this is exactly what the American people voted for.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Acts absolutely, Liz, Let's talk about President Trump. But he's
not giving up on Canada being fifty first state. By
the way he put on social this, he said, I
told Canada, which very much wants to be part of
our fabual s Goolden Dome system, that it will cost
sixty one billion dollars if they were made a separate
but unequal nation, but will call zero dollars if they

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become our Cheri's fifty first state. They are considering the
all for exclamation point I'm surprised you didn't say thank
you for your attention to this matter, which I always
cracks me up when he does that.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
But so, Liz, here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
I remember when the Prime Minister thereic Canada was in
the Oval Office and the Prime Minister said, yeah, Canada's
never going to be the fifty first state, and then
Trump kind of chuckled and just mumbled under his breath, Yeah,
we'll see like that. Like in other words, everybody's playing
checkers and he's playing forty chess. You know, he knows
he had the Golden Dome thing that he could offer.

(11:14):
He knows he has I mean, he's always working on
a deal. I'm curious to get your thoughts on this.

Speaker 12 (11:18):
I think you're absolutely right.

Speaker 10 (11:20):
It's a deal that he's working on. And he kind
of alluded to this the other day. You know, you
put up a number so high that's so ridiculous that
then it looks like, oh, is he walking back this stuff. No,
that's what he wanted all along. He wanted this number,
but he started up here, and I think this is
kind of the same thing. A lot of people on

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social media have been porting out.

Speaker 11 (11:42):
I don't know if we want Canada.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
It's another California, more liberal.

Speaker 11 (11:48):
We don't want that.

Speaker 10 (11:49):
But I think it's a negotiation tactic, you know, to
get more for the United States, get more money from
Canada if we're going to provide protection. So just let
the master work right and also you get a laugh
along the way.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
Part of the deal.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Liz, let him cook. We'll see what happens. Yeah, well, Liz,
thank you so much for your time today. We appreciate you.

Speaker 13 (12:11):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Coming up, we check out the hottest headlines from the
RAV newsroom with good old Tea Baits and later President
Trump said he talked to Israel about potentially striking Iran.
How is Israel reacting? We have the latest ahead on
American Sunrise.

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Speaker 8 (13:37):
The head of the Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk,
is leaving his position this week to return to his
major in first jobs, which are at Tesla, excuse me,
SpaceX and X. Musk was brought on as a special
government employee on January twentieth. Under that designation, he was
expected to perform his duties for one hundred and thirty days.

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That time of officially ends tomorrow. In an ex post
announcing his departure, Musk writes, I would like to thank
President Donald Trump for the opportunity to reduce wasteful spending.
The DOGE mission will only strengthen over time as it
becomes a way of life throughout the government. Musk has
said that his goal is to save two trillion dollars

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through his efforts with DOGE, and while he admits he'll
likely not achieve that sort of hall, must does say
that he anticipates savings of one hundred and fifty billion
dollars in the fiscal year twenty twenty six just from fraud, waste.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
And abuse that his agency is uncovered.

Speaker 8 (14:37):
President Trump is taking his deal making skills to Capitol Hill,
saying that he plans to negotiate aspects of the so
called One Big Beautiful Bill that is now in the
US Senate.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
The measure the.

Speaker 8 (14:47):
House passed last week is facing some pushback from Senate Republicans,
plus Elon Musk is criticizing it.

Speaker 16 (14:54):
I'm not happy about certain aspects of it, but I'm
thrilled by other aspects of it. That's the way they go.

Speaker 15 (15:00):
It's very big.

Speaker 16 (15:00):
It's the big beautiful bill. But the beautiful is because
of all of the things we have, the biggest thing
being I would say, the uh uh, the level.

Speaker 15 (15:11):
Of tax cutting that we're going to be doing.

Speaker 17 (15:12):
I was like, we're disappointed to see the massive spending
bill frankly uh, which increases the much depths that not
does decrease it, and that reminds the work that the
Doge team is doing. I think I think a bill
can be can be can be big, or it can
be beautiful.

Speaker 13 (15:29):
But I don't know if it could be both.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
While President Trump plans to offer his input to improve
the spending plan and get it passed, there are also
reports that the White House will send Congress a package
to formalize DOGE cuts targeting federal spending, and that could.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Happen as soon as next week.

Speaker 8 (15:49):
Well, President Trump, while he deals with funding the US government,
he now also has about a week and a half
to retool one of the centerpieces of his plan to
revitalize the US economy. The Court of International Trade is
putting President Trump's tariffs on ice, saying that he overstepped
his authority by imposing the duties on imports. The ruling
and effect immediately invalidates all of the President's terriffs. The

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Administration is appealing Wednesday's decision and questioning the court's authority.
The three judge panel says, and I'm quoting here, the
Court does not pass upon the wisdom or likely effectiveness
of the President's use of tariff's leverage. That use is impermissible,
not because it's unwise or ineffective, but because federal law
does not allow it.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
The generals say, that's a quick check off your headlines.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
I'll have more headlines coming up, including President Trump reportedly
losing his patience with Vladimir Putin. But what might this
mean for the end of the war between Russia and Ukraine.
We're trying to answer that question for you. But next,
Israel claims that top Hamas official has been killed.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Find out who.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
As we continue to assess the impact of the war
against the terrory. Right now, a quick look at this
state of history. It was on this date in eighteen

(17:15):
forty eight, that Wisconsin became the thirtieth state in the Union.
Wisconsin was the last state to be formed in the
Northwest Territory, which the US got.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
After the Revolutionary War.

Speaker 8 (17:25):
The Cheese state got territorial status in eighteen thirty six,
and then in eighteen forty six a constitutional convention was authorized,
which is key to statehood. The rest, as they say,
is history. More American sunrise coming your way in two minutes.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
That's a Nashville, Tennessee. Anytime I think of Nashville, Tennessee,
for some reason, I think.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Of Gina and like at a honky tonk bar something
like that, and she's like singing karaoke.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
I don't know why, I've never seen it I mean,
I'm not ever been in a bar with Gina singing karaoke,
but it just comes to mind.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I don't know. Welcome back everybody to American Sunrise, all right.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
President Trump says he has discussed Iran with the Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin net Yahoo and said he told net
Yahoo not to take actions to disrupt these Iran nuclear
talks that are currently going on.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Take a look.

Speaker 16 (18:38):
I can settle it with a very strong documentary, very
strong with inspections and no trust. I don't trust anybody.
I don't trust anybody, so no trust. I wanted very
strong where we can go in with inspectors. We can
take whatever we want. We can blow up whatever we want,
but nobody getting killed. We can blow up a lab,

(19:00):
but nobody's going to be in the lab, as opposed
to everybody being in the lab and blowing it up.

Speaker 15 (19:03):
Right, two ways of doing it.

Speaker 18 (19:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (19:06):
I told them this would be inappropriate to do right
now because we're very close to a solution. Now that
could change at any moment. You could change with a
phone call. But right now, I think they want to
make a deal. And if we can make a deal,
I save a lot of.

Speaker 9 (19:20):
Lives all right.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Well, for more, let's bring and retired Navy coal officer
Mike Sirelli.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Mike, always good to see you. So what do you think?
I mean?

Speaker 5 (19:32):
It is give piece a chance, work on a deal.
But what do you think do you think something will
come about? Because if not, net Yahoo is chopping at
the bit, if you.

Speaker 19 (19:41):
Will, and rightfully so, Israel will ill afford to allow
Iron to proliferate nuclear weapons that can be used on
their homeland. So what Trump is doing here is saying, hey,
give me a chance, let me get this document in place.
Let's see if we can resolve this without starting another war.
This is also lesson learned after he had a historic

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phone call with Putin moving towards peace, and then Zelensky
and Ukraine tries to conduct an assassination attempt against Putin
which derailed the entire thing. So it's a lesson learned.
And he's just asking asking Netanyahu for a little bit
of time, which they do have.

Speaker 8 (20:20):
To your point about Vladimir Putin and his relationship with
President Trump, political reporting that President Trump is losing patience
with Putin, but he's still unsure of his next move.
He of course recently is also called Vladimir Putin crazy,
and as recently as yesterday said that he expects something
to happen here in the next couple of weeks. He
expects some sort of movement. What are your thoughts on

(20:43):
all of this. Will there be movement and what do
you expect in terms of what that's going to look
like ultimately?

Speaker 19 (20:51):
So let me say this, peace talks are never linear.
They're slow, they're painful, They break down as easily as
they build up.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
But if you look at.

Speaker 19 (21:00):
The sequential sort of order of events here, and I'm
not advocating for Russia in any way, Russia started this
unsanctioned war on May after the historic phone call. On
May twentieth, Ukraine tried an assassination attempt on Putin while
he was in his helicopter. Ukraine also launched one of
the most massive drone strikes from their side in the

(21:23):
history of the war, to which Russia retaliated. What I
don't think Trump had at the time was all the information.
So after Trump has this historic phone call, he's moving
in the right direction. Russia's working on a piece memorandum,
Zelensky makes decisions that derail it and move us back.
So we were moving one step forward, Zelensky and Ukraine

(21:44):
just took us five steps back. If there's an assassination
attempt on our national leader, of course we're going to retaliate.
So you know, guys, this is going to take a while.
We've got to make concessions, we've got to build trust,
and that just takes time, similar to the peace talks.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Of World War Mike on the way, Hey, so my
ears really perked up.

Speaker 8 (22:03):
I'm sorry, I just want to follow up, but my
ears really perked up because you said you're not sure
that President Trump had all of the information. How can
that happen in this day and age that President Trump,
the president doesn't have all of the information.

Speaker 19 (22:16):
And therein lies the question. I'm sure there's discussions going
on within the staff of President Trump of why didn't
we arm him? But within an interview when he was
talking about Trump being crazy, he'd also mentioned that he
didn't hear about the assassination attempt. So, you know, a
president has a lot of things going on, from foreign
policy to domestic policy, to economic you know, discussions, so

(22:40):
he's got a lot going on. He possibly wasn't armed
with the right information. On this one.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Fair enough, Well, Mike, there's a Guardian headline that says
that Trump's foreign policy is not so unusual for the US.
He just drops the facade of moral leadership when describing
Trump's stance on the world stage. This article calls his
foreign policy transactionictional, bereft of any moral considerations, and only
intended to enrich himself, not protect America's best interest. Now, Mike,

(23:07):
when I see him in the Middle East doing deals,
I feel like that's keeping the dialogue flowing and building alliances,
not interventionism. Or let's say Joe Biden's foreign policy, which
left China unchecked, Ukraine enriched with no return on investment,
Iran Richard and Afghanistan turned over to the Taliban with
thirteen American deaths. So I see this as more peace
through strength with some economic ROI in Trump's policy, How

(23:29):
do you see it?

Speaker 19 (23:30):
This article by David Smith reeks of leftist globalism. Let
me say, this isn't the death of American leadership. This
is the rebirth. He made four points, and I want
to counter these when he said Trump at the ethical
and moral framework of diplomacy. Where are we with this
moral diplomacy? From past administrations that have led to endless

(23:51):
wars and just failed nation building. He also said Trump
is using the presidency for personal gain, which guys Trump.
The business ties were well known and legal, but these
two were interesting. He didn't raise human rights or Gaza
as a whole. Who enacted the Abraham Accords during his

(24:11):
first administration, which Biden came in and completely destroyed and
has done nothing to stop the bloodshed in both Ukraine
and Gaza. And then lastly, people are saying he abandoned
his we're banning our alliances in multinationalism. Trump merely demanded
that our allies pay their fair share. That's not abandonment.

(24:33):
That is accountability, and NATO will become stronger for it.
So I feel that David Smith was completely off in
this just rhetoric in this article.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Mike, what about the unorthodox foreign policy that he has. Obviously,
relationships with Putin is one thing. Even Kim Jong un
to a degree is one thing. Even talking with Iran
is one thing. But he's also has this administration negotiating
with which gives them credibility.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Talk to me a little bit about that, the moral
implications of that. I know it's old school.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
If you will to think that, you know, we're not
going to negotiate with terrorists and we're not going to
talk to the bad guys, and Trump is exactly the opposite.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
I'm curious to get your take on that.

Speaker 19 (25:17):
It's a bit of hypocrisy. Hey, we don't negotiate or
talk with terrorists. Guess what we always have. We talked
to the Kanie network very very early on in the
early days of the Afghan War.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
We have to talk to our enemies.

Speaker 19 (25:30):
If you don't talk to your enemies and you go
with the policy of isolationism, then you can't come to
the table and figure out some mutual agreement for peace
or whatever the outcome, desire outcome is. So we talk
to our enemies, and re establishing communications with North Korea is.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Not a bad thing.

Speaker 19 (25:49):
Again, we've got to hear their side, they've got to
hear our side and see if there's a middle ground
to which we can put conflict in the Indo Pacific.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
So much rest, Mike.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
I don't just agree with you, but the thing is
middle ground which could be a compromise at some point,
and you know, to compromise with Hamas for what they
did on October seventh.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
You know, that's that's a fine line.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
About negotiating deals with people that did what they did
on October seventh.

Speaker 19 (26:16):
Guys, I'll tell you this from my time in combat zones.
You know, people have very different views of the world,
to include our enemies, and sometimes you've got to see
it from their perspective. But I don't think the negotiations
with Hamas are to you know, give moral justification to
what their stance is. It was to get the hostages

(26:36):
back and still and to stop the needless killing. That's
what that's the ultimate outcome. So you know Hamas, Yes,
no one's gonna no one's gonna justify what.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
Happened on October seventh.

Speaker 19 (26:48):
That is pure eal evil and I do believe that Hamas,
down to the last person, needs to be eradicated. But
what they're trying to do is they're trying to get
those hostages home to their Israeli families and give those
families closure.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
Hey, Mike, I'm not trying to lead you into an answer,
but I am curious about your take here. When I
listen to President Trump, particularly recently, as he's making these deals,
it seems to me that foundational fundamental in all of
the deals that he's trying to make is saving lives.
You continue to hear that narrative, I want to save lives.
I want to stop the killing. And so that gets

(27:21):
me to my question. It seems to me he's making
a very good case. He probably would never even be considered,
but it seems to me he's making a very good
case to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner. That's what
I feel when I hear him. I'd love to get
your perspective, particularly as someone who's inside and who's been
in war zones.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Are your thoughts?

Speaker 19 (27:40):
I love your preparatory clause there. Hey, I'm not going
to lead you to an answer, but I will no, No, absolutely, guys.
I think the previous foreign policy, and let's call it
the moral virtual, virtual virtue signaling of previous administrations, we've
got to kill it. We've got to kill it. I mean,
what is more ethical, needless wars or mutual beneficial trade agreements.

(28:09):
Trump has made us his stance clear. He's not triting,
he's not trying to start future wars. He's trying to
end them. This policy of peace through strength and advocating
for unapologetically the American people, that's what we expect of
our president, and give them the withdrawal of Afghanistan and

(28:29):
that horrific, just disastrous war he's seen, and he doesn't
want to repeat those same mistakes. So, you know, the
left can scream all they want, you know, this sort
of performative outrage over his policies, but he's actually doing
what the majority of the American people want. Stop the wars,

(28:50):
don't start future wars, get us back to economic prosperity,
which also will aid our ability to influence the world.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Ring the bell, surely.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yeah, it was just a great answer and great analysis.
Really appreciate every single time you're on the show. And
thanks for your service to our country.

Speaker 19 (29:08):
Thank you so very much, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Thanks Mike.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
All right, coming up. Elon Musk has now left the
Trump administration. But before he left, how did he feel
about the budget?

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Well we have his comments ahead on American Sunrise.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
We are back at a.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Moment everybody on a Thursday.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Great shot there Wes Palm Beach where I am right now?
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Speaker 2 (31:58):
Thank you, Bo Davidson. Shade it.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Glad you're not Warren Davidson. I still think about him
voting no on a beautiful bill.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
In the east.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Uh you bet now over to uh d c oh wait,
that's where I'm at. Okay, so I guess we're going
to stay right here where Elon Musk has now left
the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
He's left the building like Elvis.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
But before he left, he said he is disappointed with
how the House budget bill, the Budget Reconciliation Bill, came out.

Speaker 9 (32:23):
Take a look.

Speaker 17 (32:25):
So you know, I was like, we're disappointed to see
the massive spending bill frankly, which increases the budget depsit
not doesn't decrease it, and that reminds the work that
the Doge team is doing.

Speaker 20 (32:39):
I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along.
I mean, like everything he's done on Doge gets wiped
out in the first year.

Speaker 17 (32:47):
I think, I think a bill can be can be
can be big or it can be beautiful.

Speaker 13 (32:52):
But I don't know if it could be both. My
postal opinion.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Fair enough for more, Let's bring in Republican strategist Nicole
Kipperlove Nicole, thanks for being here on the show. So look,
I mean, Elon's got a good point. Anything that's pretty
big and is going to have some issues. Obviously, one
thing about Elon Musk, he tells it like it is.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Or at least the way he sees it.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
He's a free thinker, and sometimes I can get him
into trouble when he's just kind of going off on X,
and in this case, he's not doing the Trump administration
and he favors by not being necessarily all that big
of a fan of this bill.

Speaker 21 (33:31):
But here we are, Well, look what I would say
is President Trump himself said that they will be negotiating
the bill because certain aspects could be better. But let's
take a look at the big picture here. This bill
is incredibly pro working class, it's incredibly pro America, and
it shows how important it is for Congress to get

(33:54):
involved and ensure that what the Trump administration is doing
has lung longevity and sustainability. Now, the mainstream media is
fear mongering, saying that this bill is the end of America,
but it actually revives America. It delivers a massive tax
cut plus no tax on tips, no tax on overtime.

(34:18):
And now look when it comes to the deficit, which
is ultimately what Elon's critique is here, I think actually
Stephen Miller's retort is probably the best argument I've seen
so far on this. He said, Look, in theory, you
could raise taxes on everyone to ninety percent and that
would solve the deficit problem. But it also means you're

(34:41):
raising taxes to ninety percent, which is insane. You're literally
taking all the money out of American's pockets. So what
he's saying here really puts things into perspective. The deficit
isn't going to explode the way that the leftist media
has been portraying it because you actually have to take
into consideration all the revenue that will come in from

(35:03):
some of the provisions of the bill. And look, the
other part of this is you really need the bill
to secure the border, and the border crisis is the
biggest problem that this country is facing. You can't decrease
the deficit without first dealing with the border. That's just
not feasible. This bill ensures billions for deportations the wall,

(35:28):
It kicks close to one point five million illegal immigrants
off of medicaid, It adds thousands of new border patrol agents.
So all of this will very much help with this
country's financial health. But I do think I will say
I do think Elon is right that the next step
here is we absolutely must codify the Doge cuts. And

(35:52):
President Trump understands that he wants to do that, and
that's why the White House is taking action and they're
going to be sending this Doge Recisions package to Congress
because codifying the Doge cuts is the way to ensure
that all of the work that Elon did rooting out
the waste, fraud, and use is not overturned. If God forbid,

(36:16):
we get a Democrat in the future.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Nicole just got about thirty seconds left, and I want
to get your quick take on this New York Times
headline that says Cuomo proposes a twenty dollars minimum wage
for New York City. Of course, Andrew Cuomo is running
for mayor, he's increasing the minimum wage.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
So Nicole, does this move.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Encourage New Yorkers to stay and his twenty dollars an
hour even livable in New York City after tax?

Speaker 6 (36:35):
Let's be honest, No.

Speaker 11 (36:38):
It's not.

Speaker 21 (36:38):
And also, I think Cuomo is making this announcement as
a distraction from his horrific record while he was governor
of New York. We know the nursing home scandal. Thousands
died on his watch, shutting down the state with his
draconian COVID nineteen policies. He signed bail reform into law,
he implemented sanctuary state policies, So this I think is
just honestly political grandstanding. He's been a hypocrite about actually

(37:02):
raising the minimum wage in the past when he was governor,
so I don't think he actually wants to do this,
and I don't think it would be good for the datum.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
You're right, and I just hope New Yorkers have long
memories about that nursing home crisis that they really need
to think about that before electing a guy like this.
When Nicole Kipper Love, thank you so much for being
with us this morning. Thank you so much for having
coming up. Jensaki and James Comey hit a new Love
on the air. We have to comment straight ahead on
American sun Rise.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
Stay with us, and.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
The Texas House of Representatives is bringing Christianity back to schools.
We will discuss the new bill requiring a display of
the Ten Commandments in every lone star state classroom when
American Sunrise continues.

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Speaker 22 (39:29):
So this is your third book that you've written. What
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wing influencer who directs his followers to commit violence, which
feels it's not exactly topical in this moment, but it
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Speaker 12 (39:50):
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Speaker 22 (39:51):
Is there a specific moment or person that inspired you
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(40:17):
it's a tool of people and white identity extremism trying
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is a real feature of the FBI's work, and so
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Speaker 18 (40:34):
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Coming up, the Ten Commandments may soon be displayed in
classrooms throughout the great State of Texas. We'll take a
closer look at the legislation making its way to Governor
Greg Abbott's desk after the break.

Speaker 24 (40:53):
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Speaker 15 (41:15):
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Speaker 6 (41:23):
Welcome back to American Sunrise.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
It's time now for our moment of faith, brought to
us by Lee Greenwood and the God blessed the USA
Bible and in focus today, the Texas House of Representatives
is bringing Christianity back to public schools, passing the bill
mandating every classroom display the Ten Commandments. The legislation is
now on its way to the Senate floor for final
consideration before heading to Governor Greg Abbott's desk. He is

(41:47):
expected to sign it into law shortly. Democrat lawmakers in
Texas have pushed back on the requirement, arguing that it
violates parental rights of families with students of different faiths
and promotes Christianity over other religons.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Discuss this. Let's welcome into American sun Rise, Pastor C. L. Bryant.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
He's a pastor, a filmmaker, and an author. A pastor,
thank you for being with us this morning.

Speaker 25 (42:09):
Really glad to be with you, and thank you.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
So much, absolutely well, Pastor.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
You know, I firstly I want I think we could
all learn a really great degree of daily conduct from
following the ten commandments, just in a general sense, and
you know likely they cover the most basic things of behavior.
Don't lie, don't steal, don't kill, Honor your father and mother.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
These have lasted epochs of time. Do you agree with.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
The Texas House's decision to place the Commandments back into schools?

Speaker 25 (42:34):
Absolutely? In fact, I'm surprised that Governor Abbott didn't have
them put all six hundred and thirteen of the laws
in schools. The first five, though, of the specific ten,
deal with God's relationship and man's relationship with God, and
then the second five deal with man's relationship with one another.

(42:58):
And it begins if honor thy father and mother. As
you mentioned a little earlier, the second part of those
ten that we revere began certainly with a teaching of
honoring your father and your mother. Yes, that is exit
us twenty and twelve. And so the one thing that

(43:22):
we must understand is that this country was founded on
these principles, and actually the essence of all civilized law
around the world is rooted and grounded in these principles. Certainly,
if all other types of ideas and religions can be

(43:42):
taught in our public schools, certainly the foundational principles of
our faith, Christian faith in this nation, should be displayed
in our schools as well.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
Pastor, I think you make a great point.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
But of course the Democrats say that this is a
violation of parental rights ldren who may practice faiths other
than Judaism or Christianity. We as conservatives and Christians have
been all over liberal schools for indoctrinating and placing pornographic.

Speaker 6 (44:08):
Images in schools.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
So do you think there's any merit to the opposition
argument that it violates the establishment clause?

Speaker 25 (44:15):
Of course not, because the one thing that Christians should
not tolerate, and I want to use that word pointedly tolerate,
is being the beacon of freedom for every faith that
is on this earth. It is this nation, a Christian nation,

(44:35):
that opens the door for them to practice their faith freely.
And we should refuse to be handcuffed and handicapped in
our own faith simply by proclaiming it as others do.
And so I think that they have a very Even
though they may make it a strong argument logically and
with common sense, it is not a strong argument because

(44:59):
it is not fair across the board, and certainly not
when it comes to dealing with Christians right.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
And we have had so many arguments over separation of
church and state. But of course there seems to be
this just abandonment of the profounding principles of our country
and the jujeo Christian roots of it. The courts have
struck down similar displays of the Ten Commandments in schools
in Louisiana and Kentucky. So Pastor I wonder where this
will wind up, but it's not totally clear how the
courts apply the law. Some Republicans point to Kennedy versus Bremerton,

(45:26):
where coach Joe Kennedy, as we know, was allowed to
pray on a school's football field as supporting their reasoning.

Speaker 6 (45:32):
How do you think the courts will look at this?

Speaker 25 (45:35):
You know, the courts can make their rulings, but then
they must enforce those rulings. And we in our separate states,
all fifty of us, and even the territories that lie about,
we make our government agains at home. Government begins locally.
And so this is what we must understand, is that

(45:56):
we the people are still in charge of this country,
and we the people must, in facts, make certain that
our core value principles are honored in this nation through
our elected officials. And I do believe we have a
president now in office that will be a champion of

(46:17):
those particular ideas. And I believe we have a champion
in office now that will stand with and beside Christians
and Christian principles.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
And you know what Pastor two I was thinking about,
just that commandment, thou shalt not covet you know, So
many of our young people are tempted to covet thy neighbor,
covet wealth, covet the riches, and that's how they can
wind up in drugs, gangs, abusive situations.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
That commandment alone, I think.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Would teach us a lot of good, to be quite
honest with you, and I think for that reason alone,
it should be taught in public schools.

Speaker 6 (46:46):
But we'll just have to see how the courts decide.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
But I agree with you from a principle and a
moral foundation, they should be out there for sure, in
public spaces so we can see them.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
Thank you, pastor, I appreciate your time, and God bless us,
God bless you all.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
We'll be back with the second Hour of American Sunrise
in just two minutes. Stick around ahead on the second
Hour of American Sunrise. Elon Musk is out in the
Trump administration, but will we see him again? In politics

(47:19):
plus GOP Senator Rick Scott says he plans to vote
no on that big beautiful bill in its current form.
What changes are needed to pass it in the Upper Chamber?
Find out ahead. Also, a new poll shows the US
is in uncharted territory, But does it mean the US
is on the right or the wrong track. We'll discuss
later on in the show. Our two of American Sunrise
starts right now.

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Good morning, America, Welcome to American Sunrise.

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President Trump is joining us live now from Florida.

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Welcome back, everybody to the second hour of American Sunrise.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I'm David Brody, coming to you from the Deep State.

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As a matter of fact, I'm definitely in the Deep
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He's off to my left. You can't see him. Right now.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Let's bring in Bo Davidson, who's in West Palm filling
in for doctor g teammates in our Denver newsroom.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
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I don't know that didn't even make grammatical sense, but
we are in the triple box and that's good. Three
men in a box, three men and a baby. Good morning, Bo, Davidson,
how are you, sir.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
David was great to just in the break there talk
about our moms and what they see.

Speaker 6 (48:50):
So I know my mom's probably watching right now.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I got to give you a shout out, and for
any mistakes that I make today, I sincerely apologize.

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Speaker 4 (49:00):
That is hilarious.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
Hey Mom, by the way, not to be outdone. Good
morning Mom, Good morning Pop. Both parents probably watching as well.
But guys, look, the big story of the day Elon
Musk is set to leave the Trump administration. That's likely
going to happen tomorrow. He has said that it is
time for him to move on. We'll talk a bit
more about it in news. But David, you seem to
think that this is probably indicative of some of the

(49:22):
waves that have been going on, some of the problems
that arose following his entrance, as Dojan and his relationship.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
I guess if you will with some of the cabinet secretaries.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Well, well, look, I mean, it doesn't take a rocket
scientist right to figure out that the cabinet secretaries weren't
necessarily the fans of Elon Musk's going on Twitter or
x or whatever and saying this is gone, this is gone.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
This well, really, hello, I'm.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
A cabinet secretary. Maybe I should have a say in
what our department's going to do. But Elon Musk was
just throwing stuff out there. It did ruffle some feather feathers. Feathers, yes, feathers.
Did I just say fefers? Andyhow feathers? And so Look,
ultimately it caused a little consternation between two.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
But look, he did a great job obviously.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
And this idea that the media wants to say that
Elon Musk is out, he's out of the Trump It's
like he's being forced out, like he left the building
like Elvis or something. But it's just not true.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Bottom line is he was gonna leave anyhow.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
I think it was sped up a little bit because
of some of the differences with cabinet secretaries. But look,
bottom line is he's Elon.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I mean he does his thing, though.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
He does, and I think he's been a pivotal, you know, fixture,
not just in this administration. But if you go back
the purchase of Twitter, I think was a watershed moment.
You think about what it was for free speech. This
man has put this all on his own shoulders. He
didn't have to do it. Who else did that same thing,
Donald Trump? So when you think about someone who came
in and look, you're not going to be liked if

(50:50):
you're taking things away from people, But we have to
point out where that waste, fraud and abuses. So you
know what, no one's going to love you when you're
doing that. But at the same time, it's a good
thing for the American public.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I think, David, you pointed out his candor and his
honesty are refreshing even when he disagrees with the president.

Speaker 8 (51:07):
All Right, So let's flesh out this story because it
is one of the big stories of the day. The
head of the Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk, who
we've been talking about, leaving his position this week to
return to his primary jobs at Tesla, SpaceX and X.
Musk was brought on as a special government employee on
January twentieth. Under that designation, he was expected to perform

(51:27):
his duties for one hundred and thirty days. That time,
by the way, officially ends tomorrow. In an ex post
announcing his departure, Musk writes, I would like to thank
President Donald Trump for the opportunity to reduce wasteful spending.
The DOGE mission will only strengthen over time as it
becomes a way of life throughout the government. Musk has
said that his goal is to save two trillion dollars

(51:50):
through his efforts with DOGE. While he admits he'll likely
not achieve that sort of hall Must does say he
anticipates savings of one hundred and fifty billion dollars in
fifth year twenty twenty six just from fraud, waste and
abuse that his agency is uncovered. Meantime, President Trump taking
his deal making skills to Capitol Hill, saying he plans

(52:11):
to negotiate aspects of the so called One Big Beautiful
Bill that's now in the US Senate. The measure that
the House passed last week is facing some pushback from
Senate Republicans. Plus there's Elon Musk who's also criticizing the measure.

Speaker 16 (52:26):
I'm not happy about certain aspects of it, but I'm
thrilled by other aspects of it. That's the way they
go us very big. It's the big beautiful bill. But
the beautiful is because of all of the things we have,
the biggest.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Thing being I would say the.

Speaker 16 (52:42):
Level of tax cutting that we're going to be doing.

Speaker 17 (52:44):
I was like, we're disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly,
which increases the much depths that not does decrease it,
and that reminds the work that Panoche team is doing.
I think a bill can be big or it can
be beautiful, but I don't know if it could be both.

Speaker 8 (53:06):
And while President Trump plans to offer his input to
improve the spending plan and get it passed, there is
also reporting out this morning that the White House is
going to send Congress a package to formalize DOGE cuts
that target federal spending, and that could.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
Happen as soon as next week.

Speaker 8 (53:23):
While President Trump deals with funding the US government, he
now also has about a week and a half to
retool one of the centerpieces of his plan to revitalize
the US economy. The Court of International Trade is putting
President Trump's tariffs on ice, saying that he overstepped his
authority by imposing.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
The duties on imports.

Speaker 8 (53:41):
The ruling and effect immediately invalidates all of the President's tariffs.
The administration is appealing Wednesday's decision and questioning the court's authority.
The three judge panel says, and I'm quoting here, the
court does not pass upon the wisdom or likely effectiveness
of the president's use of tariffs's leverage. That use is impermissible,

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not because it's unwise or ineffective, but because federal law
does not allow it. So sad, that's a Greick check
if your headlines. Now, let's get you back over to David.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
I appreciate it. Tea Bates, all right.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Senator Rick Scott of Florida says he's a no vote
on that one big, beautiful bill without some significant changes.
Scott says, if they brought it to the floor right now,
there's not a chance. In no, he didn't say that part,
there's not a chance it would get to fifty one votes.

Speaker 11 (54:31):
Take a look, Oh absolutely, I vote know this.

Speaker 23 (54:35):
This bill doesn't have it, have it if there's if
they brought you a floor light right now, there's not
there's not a chance they'll get the the fifty one
votes it needs.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
So there's there's Look, we all know we have to
balance a budget.

Speaker 27 (54:48):
Look, we know that it's getting harder to sell our treasuries.

Speaker 11 (54:52):
We know interest rates are going up.

Speaker 23 (54:54):
We want to get interest rates down, we get get
it invice under control.

Speaker 11 (54:58):
That means baluance a budget.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
All right, let's talk about this more now with Jacqueline
Colebeth GOP Strategists, also VP of Strategy and Communications at
Five Point Strategy Group at the Five Point Strategy Group.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Jaqueline, great to have you with us.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
So look, Rick Scott, okay, what do you You're negotiating
for certain things here? Because you got Rick Scott, Ron Johnson, Ran,
Paul Mike Lee, Mitch McConnell, who the heck knows where.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
He is today, you got a lot of people that
have concerns about this bill.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
So the Senate's going to have to figure this out
because this one big, beautiful bill can't go down in
one big beautiful ball of flames at this point.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Good morning to you, by the way.

Speaker 26 (55:38):
Good morning, thank you so much for having me. What
I would say to this is, let the negotiations begin.
And anybody who's been in the private sector understands that
when negotiations begin, they can be a little rough, they
can be a little ugly.

Speaker 11 (55:55):
There's a lot of tension, but that is not a
bad thing.

Speaker 26 (55:59):
With out Senator Scott, without Senator Lee, without Senator Johnson,
the Republicans would just be like the Democrats and there
would be no tension. They would all vote identically and
you would get crap for a bill. So this doesn't
intimidate me so much, just having a business background, knowing
you need to have that back and forth.

Speaker 11 (56:21):
But the main issue is cutting spending.

Speaker 26 (56:26):
It always has been since the day I voted at eighteen,
and it never seems to happen. And the American public
get so lit up about this because if we ran
our households like.

Speaker 11 (56:40):
The government runs their business, we would be destitute.

Speaker 26 (56:44):
We'd be filing for bankruptcy, we would be on the street,
we'd lose everything. So I look at these senators who
want to make some changes to the bill. Is the
forcing function that will lead other senators to join in
the negotiations for a better bill.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
You just heard President Trump say that he is going
to also be joining in the negotiations to try to
help get this bill over the finish line. What leverage
do you think he's going to ultimately use and how
much sway will his input have on these senators.

Speaker 26 (57:19):
I do think he will have a lot of sway
with these senators. To answer your first question, because, to
be totally frank, if you vote against this, you've.

Speaker 11 (57:28):
Got a primary on your back.

Speaker 26 (57:30):
Now, this isn't like the old days where the same
Republicans get in every time unchallenged.

Speaker 11 (57:37):
We saw this with Pete.

Speaker 26 (57:38):
Hegsa's nomination in people like Joni Ernst, and people tend
to come around when Trump starts to negotiate.

Speaker 11 (57:49):
He is the master of negotiation.

Speaker 26 (57:51):
And now people on the Republican side need to be
wary because you will be primary.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Well, speaking of primaries, Jacqueline, let's go into the twenty
twenty six midterm elections. Democratic Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut
claims that Republicans will quote get smoked in the midterms
if they pass the President's big beautiful bill. Murphy making
these comments on MSNBC this week. Let's take a listen
to it.

Speaker 28 (58:16):
Donald Trump kind of can say jump, and everybody else
in the Senate probably says how high. So the Republican
Party is the Republican Party today, and right now he's
got an enormous amount of power. Now if he forces
these senators as he did in the House, to vote
for fifteen billion dollars of Medicaid cuts and the corruption
continues at the level that it is, I think they're

(58:38):
going to get smoked in the midterms.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
So, Jacqueline, do you agree with Senator Murphy that the
Republicans will get smoked in the midterms if the big
beautiful bill is passed.

Speaker 26 (58:48):
Well, I tend not to pay much credence to men
who run off with their social media managers, so I
just start by saying that I also think Senator Murphy
is the latest Democratic hack that they want to trot out.
And something I would posit to Senator Murphy is people

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aren't going to be remembering what Republicans are squabbling about
in this bill.

Speaker 11 (59:15):
What they're going to remember is.

Speaker 26 (59:17):
Senators like Chris Murphy and what they voted against. People
underestimate you vote for things, you vote against things, and
there's a lot to be shown by those who vote
against it.

Speaker 11 (59:30):
So Chris Murphy, what I would say to you is.

Speaker 26 (59:33):
You're the one getting smoked because you're the one in
your party who wants higher taxes, over regulation and border insecurity.
So I just want to remind Chris when he's not
trying to create his new persona on social media, that
there is a flip side to all that, and if
you're still using your twenty thirteen playbook, which is when

(59:55):
you came into office, you need to get a newer edition.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Yeah right, Hey, thirty seconds or less, Jacqueline, real quick.
Elon Musk leaving the White House going to Mars, I'm
not quite sure where he's going.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Your take on.

Speaker 26 (01:00:10):
This, David, There is nothing more frustrating, as someone who's
spent much time in the private sector than having your
boss task you with finding cuts. You find all the cuts,
you find them fast, you bring it to your boss,
or you bring it to the powers that be, and.

Speaker 11 (01:00:30):
They're like, yeah, thanks for working on this.

Speaker 26 (01:00:33):
You found a lot of good stuff, but uh, you know,
we're just gonna take like a fraction of your recommendation.

Speaker 11 (01:00:41):
So Elon Musk has every right to be frustrated.

Speaker 26 (01:00:44):
Here's a man who sacrificed time on many profitable businesses
to come and do what I think is one of
the greatest civic duties of all time, weeding out waste, fraud,
and abuse. So I can appreciate why he is frustrated.
It's the same reason everyone in America gets frustrated with government.

(01:01:09):
We offer you a good solution and then you take it,
you twist it, and you come up with the worst one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
I thought you were gonna say crap again, come up
with crap, Jacqueline Colvith, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Really appreciate your time.

Speaker 7 (01:01:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
I loved Elon Musk's shirt.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
During that CBS interview Occupy Mars, which I thought was
pretty funny. Okay, Jacqueline, great to have you appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Thank you so much. Thank you all right, great stuff
coming up. CBS News.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Scott Pelley, speaking of crap, goes on an angry tirade
against President Trump, the latest case of TDS. We all
know what that is, Trump rangent syndrome.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
That's next.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
Plus, tensions between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin
are heating up, and it has nothing to do with
him being.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Shirtless on a horse.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
What is the relationship between the United States and Russia's
Stan Where does it stand?

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
We're going to discuss that later in the show.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
We're back on a Thursday in a moment.

Speaker 18 (01:02:28):
Welcome back to American Sunrise. I'm American Sunrise contributor Emily Finn.
It's great to have you with us this morning time.
Now to drain the swamp in this morning. We are
flushing out CBS News reporters Scott Pelley, who, in a
recent Wake Forest University commencement speech attacked President Trump and
the magabase. Well, you didn't mention anyone by name. Pelly

(01:02:49):
claims recent government interference in free press and threats to
civil rights and voting rights are threatening liberty in America today.

Speaker 12 (01:02:58):
Some critics describing the.

Speaker 18 (01:02:59):
Speech quote angry, unhinged, and a national disgrace. This comes
as President Trump is suing CBS News, where Pelly has
worked in various roles for more than thirty years, over
a deceptively edited sixty minutes interview with Kamala Harris. Take
a look at that commencement speech.

Speaker 29 (01:03:17):
Our sacred rule of law is under attack. Journalism is underattack,
universities are under attack. Freedom of speech is underattack. And
insidious fear is reaching.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Through our schools, our.

Speaker 29 (01:03:42):
Businesses, our homes, and into our private thoughts.

Speaker 18 (01:03:47):
All right, let's bring in David Terrence and Bow for discussion.
You know, Bo, there's nothing like telling a group of
new graduates that they are under attack in order to
inspire them. I mean, come on, this is not the
message for this type of setting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Yeah, Emily, And I'm of the opinion that free speech
does not equal good speech. I think it was one
of the godfathers of free speech, Alexander Mickkeljohn, who said
that essentially, it's not that everyone shall speak, but that
everything worth saying shall be said. And in this case,
I think Scott Pelly should have kept quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Round of applause for Scott Pelley during that speech. Right,
Oh wait, no, sorry, there were no applause. Every time
he said journalists are under attack, everybody's staying silent.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
You know this guy, I mean talk about elitism. I mean,
that's the poster boy for elitism, literally, and I keep
saying this. If you look him up in the dictionary,
you see a picture of Scott Pelly, and then I
think to myself, wait a minute, there are no pictures
in the dictionary.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
But that's a separate matter. Bottom line is is that
this guy is office rocker.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
But here's the good news is that Donald Trump is
a disinfectant to all of these folks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I mean, he's like a can of raid.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
And they all come out, and you know, and Scott
Pelley all of a sudd and says all of this
let's be honest, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
If Mitt Romney was president, if a George W.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Bush type person was president, would Scott Pelly be out
there talking about talking like this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
He's doing that because he's ticked off at Trump for
exposing him and all of his other liberal comrades. That's
why he's doing it. So this is a disinfectant and T.
Bates I'm happy about that.

Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
Yeah, it's good that there's pushback, that there's a different
narrative in the White House than what the mainstream media
is trying to push. But let's just be honest. It's
a graduation speech. And I think all four of us,
or all three of them, all four of us, yes,
have been through that. I remember my time, couldn't tell
you what the speaker was talking about, and for me
it was Robert Reich. I remember that it was him

(01:05:43):
because he was short, and I was like, can you even
see over the podium, But couldn't tell you what he
talked about. Didn't think of it, and as I remember,
I was more concerned about I hope we're going someplace
better than TGI Fridays for lunch after all of this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
I suspect that's.

Speaker 8 (01:05:55):
What many of the graduates at Wake Force were thinking
too yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:05:59):
Good point. I'm not sure what we expected.

Speaker 18 (01:06:01):
I mean, Pelly has been at CBS for more than
thirty years. He is the product of left wing mainstream
media brainwashing. We want to know what you think, though,
Let us know on Rumble or get her hop on
and let.

Speaker 12 (01:06:13):
Your voice be heard.

Speaker 18 (01:06:14):
Coming up on American Sunrise, Where is bitcoin headed? Did
Vice President jd Vance's keynote speech at the Bitcoin conference
in Las Vegas yesterday boost investor confidence? We're going to
take a live look at the big board up next,
and plus a dire warning from Russia after President Trump
said Moscow is playing with fire.

Speaker 12 (01:06:33):
What does this mean for the state of the war
with Ukraine? We will discuss coming up.

Speaker 8 (01:06:50):
Shout out to Belmont, North Carolina. I've been there a
time or two. This is suburban Charlotte, North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
It's a really cool little town, some good little unity stairs.

Speaker 30 (01:07:00):
Ye.

Speaker 8 (01:07:00):
Always good to see Belmont, North Carolina. Dare We're getting
ready for the opening bell at the New York Stock Exchange.
It's going to ring here in about six minutes. Take
a look at the board. Pretty good news all the
way around the Dow s and P five hundred and
the NASDAC all up right now in pre market trading. Again,
we'll let you know how things look once the bell rings.

(01:07:20):
We'll also try to get you a look at Bitcoin.
Vice President Jadie Vance, of course, spoke at a bitcoin
conference yesterday in Las Vegas, so we'll see if he
was able to move the needle at all. All of
that coming up here, and just a little bit there
you have the Bitcoin numbers and some of the other crypto.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
Numbers out there. Anyway, let's get you over to David.

Speaker 8 (01:07:39):
Now, David, that was a super expansive I'll lead into
our financial segment coming up. You didn't realize I knew
bitcoin and all that other stuff, did you?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
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That's not like Biden. I'm not being facetious. Really, I'm not.
I'm not being faccious.

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come here on American Sunrise. It has been a really
busy and productive month for President Trump. So does a
new poll prove that his hard work is paying off.
He'll have to stick around to find out. Plus, why
is Elon Musk disappointed with the Republican's Big Beautiful bill?
His answer coming up later in the show.

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beat today, folks. Americans feel like the United States is
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thirty two percent of people believe the US was heading
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biggest donor during his presidential campaign, tesla's CEO, Elon Musk,
says his time in the Trump administration has come to
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(01:16:26):
disappointed in the Big Beautiful Bill.

Speaker 17 (01:16:29):
Listen to this, so you know, I was like disappointed
to see the massive spending Volle frankly, which increases the
much depths that not decrease it, and that reminds the
work that the Doge team is doing.

Speaker 20 (01:16:45):
I actually thought that when this big Beautiful Bill came along.
I mean, like everything he's done on Doge gets wiped
out in the first year.

Speaker 17 (01:16:53):
I think a bill can be big or it can
be beautiful, but I don't know if.

Speaker 13 (01:16:58):
It could be both. My Clas slip Figion.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Well joining us now with his take a man never
try to share his opinion. The host of America's Voice Live,
the Great Steve Ruber. Steve, do you share any of
Elon Musk's disappointment in this bill? Can it be big
and beautiful at the same time? And as a bookend on.

Speaker 6 (01:17:18):
That give him a performance grade if you will. In
his time at.

Speaker 7 (01:17:20):
DOGE, you know, the performance for Elon is pretty decent.

Speaker 13 (01:17:25):
I think.

Speaker 32 (01:17:26):
Look my email, we were just talking about this today
on the program before you guys come on.

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
My email is full.

Speaker 32 (01:17:34):
Of people going where are the cuts?

Speaker 7 (01:17:37):
In legislation.

Speaker 32 (01:17:39):
Where are the cuts being made by the Republican Congress.
Where are the Republicans. I'm hearing that every single day.
I'm hearing it in my emails. I'm seeing it on
people that I talk to. They're like, gee, we elected
the Republicans and they're doing nothing again. People are frustrated,
people are angry, bo they are They're like, where are
the cuts? And obviously Elon Musk is disappointed now having

(01:17:59):
said that, we hear that there's going to be one
of these recision bills coming next week for almost ten
billion dollars. But ten billion that's a long way from
a chillion or two. So Elon Musk came with a
lot of promising and look, they've identified a lot of issues,
but the fact of the matter is all the spending
in this big, beautiful bill. According to Ron Johnson and

(01:18:20):
Ran Paul and Senator Rick Scott of Florida, all of
those guys say, look, they have completely reversed anything, anything
good that Doge would have done as being destroyed in
this bill. I don't think the Senator is going to
support this bill. I think Elon Musk is frustrated.

Speaker 7 (01:18:35):
I think a lot of.

Speaker 32 (01:18:36):
Americans are frustrated because nothing has happened.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
Steve, Steve, excuse me.

Speaker 8 (01:18:42):
Even apart from this big, beautiful bill, let's talk a
bit more specifically about DOGE and the framework that's being created.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Do you think it's going to ultimately be codified?

Speaker 8 (01:18:51):
Is this a one trick pony or will this become
part of American government tradition, This idea of DOGE going
in and continue to cut, continuing to find fraud, waste abuse,
continuing to force the hand of lawmakers in terms of
trying to make them more better stewards of our money.

Speaker 7 (01:19:10):
Well, Terrence, I'm just doing some math over here.

Speaker 32 (01:19:14):
What are we have thirty seven trillion dollars in debt
right now roughly according to Rand Paul and Ron Johnson
and others.

Speaker 7 (01:19:22):
That's going to increase by.

Speaker 32 (01:19:24):
Two trillion dollars a year or more in our debt,
which will take us to sixty trillion dollars of debt
or more ten years from now. It's unsustainable. Look, for
anybody who missed this history lesson here it is for you.
When they had a debt crisis in Greece, the government
came in and said, look, anybody has over a million

(01:19:45):
dollars in savings or a retirement account. We're going to
come in and we're going to take half. They just
went into the banks. They took half. If you don't
think that can happen in America.

Speaker 7 (01:19:52):
You're fooling yourself.

Speaker 32 (01:19:54):
So if you're saving your money and you're working hard,
and you got a four oh one k or a
rawth iry, whatever you might have, and you don't think
the government can come in and raide your piggy bank,
you're not paying attention.

Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
So this spending has to get.

Speaker 32 (01:20:07):
Under control or we're gonna have a debt crisis and
Social Security will be crippled, Medicaid will be crippled, Medicare
will be crippled. It's time for some sober assessments of
what's happening. And we're spending too much. We need to
go back to twenty nineteen spending levels. We need to
increase our revenue, and not with new taxes, but with

(01:20:28):
invigorated economic performance and GDP. Otherwise we're gonna pay a
price in this country like we've never paid before. You know,
and I've heard people say this, I have the only
way things are gonna change if people feel real pain
who feels real pain these days? Our kids, the ones
that have instant gratification on their phones, that have drive

(01:20:49):
through food joints on every corner of every major city
in America.

Speaker 7 (01:20:53):
We can get five thousand calaries for five.

Speaker 32 (01:20:54):
Bucks, kids that want instance gratification everything until there's real
pain in this country, like the depression type pain. Is
anything ever gonna change until we just get a complete
smack down of where we are.

Speaker 7 (01:21:08):
You just have to wonder.

Speaker 32 (01:21:08):
I mean, I've heard about this, David, and I haven't
you know you've talked about this before.

Speaker 7 (01:21:12):
You've heard this your whole life.

Speaker 32 (01:21:14):
Oh, we're gonna cut spending, We're gonna do this, We're
gonna do that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:16):
No, No, not really, I don't think so.

Speaker 8 (01:21:19):
Hey, Steve, I'm going to interrupt you really quickly because
it looks like Tom Homan is going to the microphone
outside the White House.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
Let's listen in.

Speaker 30 (01:21:26):
Walking, she says, country, especially here illegally. So yeah, we
like like all the support we can get. I think
we got to support. The majority of American people are
calling to the polls right.

Speaker 14 (01:21:39):
Day.

Speaker 7 (01:21:40):
How feeling you expect that actually.

Speaker 9 (01:21:42):
Happened is not enough.

Speaker 30 (01:21:45):
Look, I've said from day one. You guys asked me
this question a lot of times. Am I happy the
removal removing numbers? Aren't happy the rest numbers? And I've
been very I said, numbers are better than buying, but
they're not good enough. I said, I I'm not satisfied
with the numbers, so we need to increase.

Speaker 9 (01:22:00):
I mean, you look at the recent numbers.

Speaker 30 (01:22:02):
We've got like six hundred thousand illegal aliens walking the
streets of this country with criminal convictions or ending criminal charges.
So yeah, we need to do more. President Trump made
a promise to American people. American people put them in
office on this top issue is immigration enforcement. So yeah,
I have not been satisfied with the numbers. Christy Nolan,
Steve Miller, myself, we all want more numbers. So we've

(01:22:25):
increased the teams a lot. We're increased targeting a lot.
So we expect a fast increased number of rests.

Speaker 15 (01:22:33):
Every day asaults my soft.

Speaker 14 (01:22:37):
Leaders or more.

Speaker 30 (01:22:43):
Yeah, the assaults on ice officers are high. The doxing
of ice officers at an all time high, and people
always complain.

Speaker 9 (01:22:51):
Some of you here say why they wearing masks so
they'll prime.

Speaker 30 (01:22:53):
Protect themselves from their families they got a dangerous job
to do, and they're being docks every day across this country.

Speaker 9 (01:23:00):
Experienced myself one hundred times.

Speaker 30 (01:23:01):
But I'm willing to take that because of the position
I hold, and you know, we're not running a popularity contest.
We're trying to en force the laws and acted by Congress,
doing in a smart, effective way. So yeah, it's the
result up, but it won't be tolerated. We've already shown
you put a hands on ice officer, you can be
prosecuted to the highest extents of the laws. So we're
not we're not playing with playing with that. With any

(01:23:23):
threats in sight officers, doxing, we're gonna look at doxing.
We're gonna take action on that also anything else.

Speaker 27 (01:23:30):
Numbers have for.

Speaker 30 (01:23:37):
The last time ourselves right around eighty five hundred. As
far as the CBP Home app, there's a lot. There's
thousands of deportations. Whe they're not going through the app,
they're just leaving intelligence supports showing traffic going south down
into Mexico, but even the Darien Gap, so there's a
lot of self deportation. I hope they take advantage of
it because you know they can leave on their own terms,
get their affairs together, or we can go find them

(01:23:59):
informally the port, which is going to set a bar
against them coming back to the country under a legal program.
So they should sell, deport give themselves an opportunity maybe
in the future to come back as a visitor or
a tourist, or maybe they have you a citizen child
that can petition for them. But if we have to
formally go through the process of seeking them out and
formally deporting them, there's a statutory bar placed against them

(01:24:19):
from ever coming back to the country. I think that
as as they see the ice rest in the in
the in the interior.

Speaker 9 (01:24:29):
Increase, which is going to.

Speaker 30 (01:24:31):
See a vast increase in the rest, I think they're
going to realize we can do this under ICE control.
We can rest you at a place and remove you,
or you can take it upon yourself to work with ICE.
Get your arrangements in order, whether it's you know your home,
your your belongings, your.

Speaker 9 (01:24:47):
Family and leave on your own.

Speaker 30 (01:24:49):
We'll give you a plane flight, we'll give you, give
you some money, or we just go through the ICE process.
I think the more they see ICE out there in
the streets arresting people and holding them act 'm the
more they'll take advantage of doing the right thing and.

Speaker 11 (01:25:03):
Hi phase the process.

Speaker 24 (01:25:07):
Stous where are the likes you still say some airund
artist from.

Speaker 30 (01:25:12):
Right now right now to a lot of a lot
of mexicanations hord where if you.

Speaker 10 (01:25:17):
Ass games fighting Tali chang no wagh the stalk about
so look at.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
The stops a question?

Speaker 19 (01:25:27):
How does you want moosten.

Speaker 18 (01:25:28):
Treme calling the thousands.

Speaker 5 (01:25:30):
Of people you're using the same solid security So what
are the main reasons they are having to work?

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Is there using false sister?

Speaker 12 (01:25:36):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Is there no way to stop the money flow to
cause me if you.

Speaker 22 (01:25:40):
Don't have a job, you don't get one number.

Speaker 9 (01:25:42):
We're all over that.

Speaker 30 (01:25:44):
We're all over the issues of social security numbers and
and we're tracking that that that as actually comes up, provides.

Speaker 9 (01:25:50):
A lot of leads for us to go find these people.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
Is hold what the reason why licens currently target market.

Speaker 27 (01:25:55):
Pure that talking?

Speaker 9 (01:25:58):
Is there that again?

Speaker 10 (01:25:59):
How many place act he's todighb be forgetting the part
of state here that from that killer.

Speaker 30 (01:26:08):
No, Well there's venders doesn't off today, Well it's part
of the country we're doing immigration actions are all throughout
the country.

Speaker 9 (01:26:14):
We're not we're not saying we're gonna favor one area
over another.

Speaker 30 (01:26:17):
We're all over the country and every neighborhood in every city,
and you're gonna see an expansion of that. Like I
just said, we're gonna increase the teams greatly. So you're
gonna see more teams on the streets you've never seen before.
You're gonna see more work site enforcement than you've ever
seen the history of this nation. You've got sanctuary cities.
Or I said, we're gonna flood the zone. If we
can't arrest a bad guy in the jail. One agent

(01:26:38):
arrested bad guy in the jail in the safety and
security of the jail, which is safer of the officer,
safer of the alien, and safer of the community. Okay,
you're gonna force in the community to find them. If
we can't find in the community, we're gonna find him
at the work site. So so we're gonna flood the zone,
and sanctuary cities will get exactly what they don't want,
more agents in the neighborhoods, more work site enforcement, because.

Speaker 9 (01:27:00):
We're going to get the bad guy. If you want
to make it difficult for us. We'll do it.

Speaker 30 (01:27:05):
They'll take more time, if less efficient, but we're not
gonna stop until we find that guy. There is no
sanctuary for illegal aliens in this country. You can call
it a sanctuary jurisdiction all you want. It's a bunch
of crap and we all know it. Sanctuary jurisdiction says, well,

(01:27:25):
we want to protect the immigrant community. We want the
victims and witnesses of crime to be able to come
to police, report, report a crime without fear that we're
working with ICE.

Speaker 9 (01:27:35):
That is a bunch of garbage.

Speaker 30 (01:27:37):
Because victims and witnesses of crime don't want the bad
guy in their neighborhood either. They want us in the
jail rest of that bad guy. That'll be made much easier,
much more efficient. But because you're forcing in the neighborhoods,
more non criminal targets are being arrested. Because ICE agents
are not gonna walk away from illegal alien You force
us to go find a bad guy. Many times you're

(01:27:58):
with others at a work site, Go look for the
bad guy. There's ten more illegal islands there. They're coming too.

Speaker 9 (01:28:03):
So I don't want to.

Speaker 30 (01:28:04):
Hear sanctuary cities complaining, well, look at all these collab
arrested non criminal targets are arrested.

Speaker 9 (01:28:09):
You've forced me in that position, so we're going to
force law.

Speaker 30 (01:28:13):
Unlike the last administration secretary of my ORC has told
I is you can't force immigration law if they're not
convicted of a serious crime. You can't arrest them for
just being here illegally. That sent a message to the
entire world. You can enter this country legally. What's it
a crime? But as long as you then we get
convicted of a serious crime, you're free.

Speaker 9 (01:28:32):
No one's looking for you. Games change.

Speaker 30 (01:28:35):
We got the greatest present history of station sitting in
the Oval Office. Who's going to force immigration law and
keep us promised to American people to make this country
safe again?

Speaker 9 (01:28:47):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:28:47):
So that was Tom Holman speaking outside the White House.
Let's bring back in David Bow and Steve Gruber for
their reaction to what we just heard. One of the things,
Steve that I found most interesting is that Tom Holman
was saying that he's going to really ramp up enforcement,
that there's going to be even more agents out there
on the streets looking for illegals, arresting them at the
workplace and anywhere in between. I find that interesting because

(01:29:10):
it seems like it's already been a pretty strong effort.

Speaker 7 (01:29:15):
I agree with that.

Speaker 9 (01:29:16):
You know.

Speaker 32 (01:29:16):
The thing that struck me about what he said there,
because I've been saying this for a long time. Nobody
wants these people as their neighbors. Nobody wants these people
on the street corner. Nobody wants to live next to
one if the Democrats don't want to live next to them,
but yet they'll.

Speaker 7 (01:29:28):
Fly to El Salvador and say, hey, look we want
to hang out with this guy. Know they don't. This
is a very simple call. Tom Holman is exactly right.

Speaker 32 (01:29:36):
Ramp up enforcement, clean up the neighborhoods, get the criminals
out of this country.

Speaker 7 (01:29:39):
And look, if you have to get caught and you're
here illegally, you're probably not coming back.

Speaker 32 (01:29:44):
It's easier to self deport and come back legally in
the future.

Speaker 8 (01:29:46):
That's all all right, We're gonna talk more about this
right after this break.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Do have to take a quick break down though.

Speaker 7 (01:30:04):
Let's spill some tea.

Speaker 12 (01:30:11):
Welcome back.

Speaker 18 (01:30:12):
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Speaker 12 (01:30:48):
All right, time out to spill some tea and in
the cup today.

Speaker 18 (01:30:51):
The second biggest scandal in American history, which according to
President Trump, is former President Biden's use of auto pen
while in off it in a post untruth social Trump says,
quote other than the rigged presidential election of twenty twenty,
the biggest scandal in American history is the autopen. Whoever
used it was usurping the power of the presidency, and

(01:31:13):
it should be very easy to find out who that
person or person's is. The President went on to say
that with a sound mind, Biden would never have supported
some policies like open borders, transgender for everyone, men and
women's sports and far more. Let's bring in Terrence, David
and Boe for more here. You know, Terrence, I got

(01:31:34):
to go to you first. We were talking about this yesterday.
It's really going to come down to the accountability of
this autopen scandal. I mean, the White House staffers that
were behind all of this. That information is going to
have to come out and some heads are going to.

Speaker 9 (01:31:47):
Have to roll.

Speaker 8 (01:31:49):
Yeah, But Emily, I must admit I'm not so confident
that that's going to actually happen. It will be nice.
I think the American people deserve that. But I think
the issue and who was responsible will come to light.
But whether there will actually be true accountability bow, I'm
not so sure.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
And speaking of this in terms of accountability, you're right, Terrence,
we may not see that. But who I'd like to
focus under the doctors. They take a hippocratic oath to
do no harm.

Speaker 6 (01:32:15):
What did they know and when did they know it?

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Because it was tremendous harm to this country by allowing
that man to get out there and do what he did.
And we have to look at the executive orders, David,
we have to look at the pardons, everything that was
done when he was mentally incapacitated.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Bo, you make a great point, especially about the doctor's
original sin that book that we'd all know about with
Tapper and Thomas and Alex Thompson. As I read through
the whole book, they bring up the doctors weiane in
in the book and then they do absolutely zero investigation.
No one's talking about that at all, Like, okay, so
what happened?

Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
What did the doctor know?

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
When you know and all that nothing investigated all in
that book. So there needs to be questions for sure.

Speaker 18 (01:32:57):
Yeah, absolutely, And bo, I know you bring this up
to that, not just the doctors, but doctor Jill. Doctor Jill,
his wife. I mean she is the closest person to him.
She should have seen the signs as well. And if
she just let this go on, I mean that is
so sad. All right, we want to know what you
guys think, all of our viewers. Let us know on
Rumble or get her hop on and let your voice

(01:33:18):
be heard still to come on, American Sunrise to children
in Staten Island, keep getting good grades. The story of
a New York bodega owner's Grades for Grabs program is
going to warm your hearts. American sunrises back in just
a few minutes. Don't go anywhere.

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
Welcome back to American Sunrise. I'm Bo Davidson.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
Thank you so much for joining us today everyone, and
now it's time for the sunny side up and in
the pan.

Speaker 6 (01:33:56):
Today.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
A New York bodega owner is giving free food to
neighborhood kids for good grades, while the alcell we We
co owner and manager of Zach's Finest Deli and Grocery
store in Port Richmond, Staten Island, says he likes seeing
the smiles on children's faces after rewarding them for their
hard work. Seventeen year old high school junior Madison walkead,
I'm sorry, Oh my goodness, I thought that was their

(01:34:17):
last name. The junior Madison walked into the bodega.

Speaker 6 (01:34:20):
That's my error there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Now my mom can catch me on this one with
her report card earlier this month, and then this heartwarming
reaction happens.

Speaker 14 (01:34:27):
Watch this.

Speaker 22 (01:34:29):
I got a report card.

Speaker 14 (01:34:30):
Man, it's better than ever, yo yoe nine.

Speaker 11 (01:34:36):
Last time was ninety eight.

Speaker 8 (01:34:38):
What's this time?

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
I can't believe it to get better?

Speaker 9 (01:34:43):
I mean market honey, oh.

Speaker 27 (01:34:47):
My ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Madison ended up getting one hundred dollars bill for her
stellar grades and then for free food she chowse peanut butter,
Minem's chips, a drink, and candy. Also she picked out
for her mom some pound cake. A'l Selway says he
started this report card incentative two years ago to help
inspire a neighborhood kid to improve his grades to get
on the honor roll. And guess what, because of this
incentive program, the kid made that honor roll. I'll sell

(01:35:14):
these kindness to kids has now become a viral sensation.
So many people have reached out to him asking how
they can help that a GoFundMe set up by his
brother has sit nearly fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Guys, you know it's a great story.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
I'm trying to remember when I got good grades, if
I went to like the dairy Queen, was there any
incentives for any of you for your good grades?

Speaker 12 (01:35:32):
Yes, my parents were. They really wanted to incentivise us.

Speaker 18 (01:35:36):
I never wanted to do my homework, so they said
that I could pick anywhere that I wanted to go
on a trip.

Speaker 12 (01:35:40):
So I picked New York City.

Speaker 18 (01:35:42):
When I graduated, my sister she had the option as well,
and she was much smarter than Knee. She picked Dublin, Ireland.
I was like, can I get a redo please? So
that that was our incentive to do well in school.

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
Man, we did not Yeah, we didn't have anything going
up and get your work done?

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
All right done?

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
Thank you here, David.

Speaker 8 (01:36:04):
My incentive was get good grades or else or else
was the incentive?

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
Yeah, yeah, And that was a strong incentive, FYI or else?

Speaker 6 (01:36:14):
Well, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
And my mom she'd see like seven a's in the
bea she let's talk about that be What about the
seven a's, What about the seven a's can't be perfect?

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
I've heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Well, we had a great show today, David, Terrence, Emily,
thank you so much, and thank you all for joining us.
We have so much more for you every single morning,
and it starts at eight am.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
We'll see you then. War room is up next to
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