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November 28, 2025 45 mins

SEGMENT 1: THE AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN AMERICA

SEGMENT 2: PRESIDENT TRUMP'S INTERNATIONAL SUCCESS

SEGMENT 3: STEVE GRUBER READS EMAILS FROM YOU, THE PEOPLE

SEGMENT 4: THANKFUL FOR A SECURED BORDER

SEGMENT 5: PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TRIUMPHANT RETURN TO THE OVAL OFFICE

SEGMENT 6: WHAT MAKES AMERICA WONDERFUL?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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America's Voice Live starts now. Welcome to America's Voice Live.
I'm seen here. Today is Friday, the twenty eighth and November.
Happy Black Friday to you. Have a great show for you.
So let's dive right in and this always thank you
for joining me here on Real America's Voice. We appreciate
you spending time with us, even on Black Friday. Well

(00:56):
with Holly Shopping taking off and taking some present from
any Americans. Start today's show with a snapshot of President
Trump's attempts to tackle the big thing, affordability. It's the
big word at the McDonald's summit. President Trump made note
of the fact that his administration inherited a tarnished economy
under Joe Biden, and went on to express the fact
that affordability should be our word, referring, of course, to

(01:19):
the Republican Party for an action implemented by President Trump
had to do with signing an executive order which excludes
some goods from tariff rates, such as meats, tropical fruits,
and coffee. Now that's Keith, It's an honest attempt to
address the issue had on Jeremy to discuss is Louisiana
State Treasurer John Fleming, as well as tax attorney and
chairman of Americans for Fair Trade Steve Hayes.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Gentlemen, thank you for being here on Black Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Haste to be ridy. I mean, this is the word. Look,
I think it's pretty clear at this point, ma'am. Donnie
won in New York because he talked about affordability over
and over again. It's also the same reason Donald Trump
won in November twenty four. He tapped into people's concerns
the future and the affordability of that future.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Stee, let me start with.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
You, how critical do you think prices are going to
be when we head toward the midterms.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Very critical.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
If people, no matter how much they like some of
the things he stands for, if they're finding it very
difficult to feed their families, they're going to be looking
for an alternative, period, even if that alternative instinctively they
know is not good for them. If they can handle
something that's facing them today, they think they'll take care

(02:32):
of the future in the future, but today they've got
to eat and feed their family. So I believe the
President is totally correct in pivoting more from foreign policy emphasis,
even though he's still going to be very active there
to looking at how he can make things better in
the US. And part of that, obviously is not only

(02:54):
in how he addresses tariffs, but also in how he
can cut through a lot of the bureaucracy that makes
things ten to fifteen to twenty percent higher to do
in America than they do in other countries.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
You know, if somebody heller the price of coffee, they're
getting my vote, I'll tell you that. John. Let's talk
about something serious though, here, and that is young women.
Eighty two percent of the women between eighteen and thirty,
these gen z folks they cast their bounced from Amboni.
If we cannot show we collectively those on the right
cannot show young people that they have a chance here
that they can afford to buy a house or even

(03:30):
pay the rent on the apartment and still have some
money left over to go out and have a cocktailer,
whatever does they want to do. Real trouble is going
to brew here because if Americans, like Steve said there,
don't feel they can afford things, maybe they don't vote
for the other guy, maybe they just don't vote at all.
And that's dangerous territory too, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
Well, no question about that, Steve. And remember we came
off of the Biden inflationary period where prices went up dramatically,
a peaked at nine point five five percent, but incomes
have risen very slowly. And Trump is really approaching this,
as you know, fighting energy prices, trying to get those down,

(04:11):
food prices, egg prices, all these prices, and he's struggled
with Chairman Powell of the Fed, who just is resistant
to getting interest rates down, which really reflects upon mortgage
cost and ultimately rental cost for people. And so affordability
is so key here. But to turn towards socialism in

(04:33):
the case of New York City Mandemi, this is really
a bad idea because look at every country that's gone
that direction, Venezuela, Cuba, the Soviet Union, North Korea. They're
all in abject poverty to day because they took that
leap into socialism. So the only way to get out
of this is the free market and lower these interest rates.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
There's no question, but the flirtation with socialism is because
we haven't educated our young people very well at all.
I was talking to a guy here recently. I said,
you know, have you ever heard of Chairman Mao? He goes, no,
have you ever heard of the Great Leap forward? No,
this is problematic, Steve. If we don't teach people that
communism failed in Russia, in China, in Cuba, in Vietnam,

(05:21):
every place I've been trying, and they say, well, we
just didn't do it right or we need more of it. No,
we don't. Venezuela is one of the wealthiest countries in
the world twenty five years ago. Today it is it
has people pouring over the borders into Columbia trying to
escape that hell hole.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I mean, this is what happens.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
A new socialism for the twenty first century is what
was sold to them. That Bill of Goods didn't age
very well.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Did it.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
It never has And John's totally correct. It's failed every
place it's been implemented. If you look at what Madani
said though in New York before he got elected, and
then what he said the night of the election, they're
radically different. You know, he was talking about he's a
socialist only in a few little, tiny areas. For the

(06:05):
most part, he believes in the free market, and he
believes in you know, people producing and all of these
good things and having the ability for them to do it.
And then once he's elected, solect Fidel Castro, he revealed
who he really was and is.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
And I think he is.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Going to be maybe not by the midterms, but certainly
within for the next four In the next four year term,
he is going to reveal the real faults of what
he's doing. And I think you're going to see a
great city imploding even further because of the policies he's doing.
And apparently the governor is going to back him up

(06:43):
to some extent.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, she said to a point.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
She's going to back him up, but she said there
won't be any free buses. He wants free buses. He
wants rent control, he wants government grocery stores. He wants
to replace the police officers with social workers. If I'm
a social worker in New York, Seria, I'm like, no,
thank you. I'm not going into a domestic violent situation
just armed with my little book of positive affirmations. I

(07:07):
think I'm going to skip that. John. I think it's
a demonstration of how bad this is by the number
of people that are leaving New York right now, the
number people are leaving California, people that are leaving Illinois,
and the list goes down. The states that are going
more and more socialist are hemorrhaging population every day, aren't they?

Speaker 6 (07:24):
Certainly? And like Steve says, a little bit of socialism
is like a little bit of pregnancy, right you being
just a little bit pregnant. You can't be You're either
all socialist or you're free capital And actually we in Louisiana,
of course, I'm State Treasurer of Louisiana and Canada for
US Senate, we would love for the people of New

(07:45):
York who want to come to a capitalistic economy to
join us in Louisiana. We've got jobs and we've got
companies for them. If you don't like the socialist haven
in New York City, come on down to Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
We'd love to have you. No, come on down. The
water's fine, all right. So let me ask you about this.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Steve the Great Society Lyndon Baines Johnson nineteen sixty five
and all of those programs. We're about twenty five or
thirty trillion dollars into that, and poverty rates have now
been greatly impacted. Homelessnesscontinues to grow in America. Our great
cities are not in great shape, that's for sure. And

(08:27):
if you look at the national debt, you take away
twenty five or thirty trillion dollars in what I consider
to be throwing good money after bad.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
We've been at.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Different place as far as our national debt goes, wouldn't
we Well.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
We'd been one hundred percent different. I mean, we look
back at nineteen sixty five and everyone could have not everyone,
but almost everyone could afford a home. And I'm talking
about people that worked in them alls who were getting.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
You know, a minimum wage.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Almost they could afford a home, and you look at
what's happened with this benefit to America. You've gotten a
lot of the people who were in the middle class
being crunched down, and even upper middle class being crunched down.
But you don't have a corresponding rise in people who
were in poverty before. Yes, many of them have big

(09:14):
screen TVs, but they don't live effectively any better because
what we've done is we've done what happened in communist countries.
We have compressed people down to a medium which is
far below what it should have been had they been
allowed to grow in the same way we were growing
in nineteen sixty five.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
So, like you, I look at Lyndon Johnson as.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Actually a villain in the story because a lot of
our problems, I think can be traced to what was
perhaps well intended I'm not sure about that, but an
object failure and the way that we have handled our
government and our spending since that time.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, and poverty today looks different than it did in
nineteen sixty five. Poverty today comes with snap benefits, I
have no problem with that, but it also comes with
a lot of other benefits. Poverty in America, john is
very different than poverty pretty much everywhere else in the world,
isn't It comes with a lot of benefits, and the
question then becomes how much can we pay? How much

(10:21):
can we afford at thirty seven trillion dollars in growing
fast before we just absolutly run out of money in
the whole country crashes.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
Well, as a nation, we want to take care of
our poor. We do believe in a safety However, we
don't want to turn a safety net into a hammock.
And that's often what happens here, particularly under the Biden administration,
where benefits were going to able bodied people who could work,
but they didn't have to work because they were enjoying

(10:50):
those benefits, and we just cannot afford it with a
thirty seven thirty eight trillion dollar debt. And remember that
it's America where the middle class was actually created. And
you're seeing these socialist havens as New York City and
in California. The middle class is evaporating. All you have
is a wealthy elite liberals, and then you have the poor,

(11:13):
and everybody else is leaving and going elsewhere where they
can make a living and actually purchase a home.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
All Right, here's the last question, Steve, I'll be both answered.
What has to happen between now and the midterm elections
to convince young people to have a shot in this
country that they can afford that house, they can afford
that car, they can afford to go on a vacation,
whatever it might be.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
What has to happen, Well, if you're asking me, it's
going to be very tough to make that kind of
a change in six months. But what they need to
see is hope. They need to see that there is
going to be a way, and I'm not sure that
the fifty year mortgage makes sense, but they need to
see there is going to be a path to where
they can afford that house. And they also need to

(11:58):
be educated more. And I think we really need to
pound it in what happens when you do rent control,
like in New York, what happens to the quality of
the home.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
So when you bring it down.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yes, you can live in a place, but it may
have problems that haven't been fixed in fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
And so we need to educate people. See. But I
think the President's going.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
To have a tough time turning around what has happened
over the last five years between now and the midterms.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
But I think he's going to make some progress for it.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
We'll see what happens. John, thirty seconds to you last word.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yes, when President Trump took office, there were two things
he needed to do to revive our economy. Number one
was the past the one big beautiful bill that brings
back bonus appreciation, that cuts taxes, that renews expiring tax
cuts and prevents tax increases. And number two, get interest
rates down. And he's been arm wrestling the FED chairman.

(12:55):
Powell warned that, and if Powell will begin to work
with the President and get those rates down, I think
before the midterms we could actually see an accelerating economy.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
All right, gentlemen, thank you so much for being here.
Greatly appreciate it to both of you. Thank you for
joining us here today on Black Friday.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Thank you, sir, Steve.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
All right, we'll take a break and be right back.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Well. A big focus of President Trump's second term has
to do with establishing peace with other nations. The notion
that the President has bolstered with a lot of action.
This is supported by the fact that even the Security
Council of the United Nations recently accepted his twenty point
plan for.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Peace in Gaza.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
They want to bring peace to Gaza through his twenty
point plan in the UN said Yes, President Trump has
also mediated on other conflicts through the use of trade
and effort that seems to be turning results from other
countries that want to be in the Oval Office negotiate better.
Joining me now to discuss says retired Air Force Colonel
Rob Manis Colonel nice to see you today. Let's start
with the most recent deal here, a twenty eight point

(14:09):
plan for peace between Ukraine and Russia. Both would have
to give something up here, but it looks like this
just might happen. What are your.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Thoughts, Yeah, it sounds like there's positive movement in the
right direction.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
You know.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
Of course, the you know, rags like the New York
Times have been published in articles the last couple of
days about it. It's saying it's just the Russian talking
points and those kind of things. But you know, there's
also a reporting that Zelenski is ready to come back
to the table to talk about the plan that he
walked away from in Istanbul in twenty twenty two, and

(14:43):
that's very much like what the Russians have been asking for.
All this time, So maybe some common sense is about
to take place and the president has finally gotten through
to both sides that everybody's got to give up something
in order to get to peace and stuff up killing
each other.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, what do you think is that going to happen
to me? Look Putin? Donald Trump met with Putin in Alaska.
You know the left one crazy on that as well.
They go crazy when he talks. Look, sometimes you got
to deal with bad people to get good results. I
mean that's true no matter how you look at You
look back to nineteen seventy two, as I do, Air
Force one land in Beijing, and the President Isaiah Richard

(15:23):
Nixon meant with the biggest mass murderer of the twentieth century,
Chairman Mao. And at that very time in history you
probably know this, there were three hundred and ten thousand
Chinese soldiers on the ground helping the Vietcong kill Americans,
and yet we went there to try to establish a relationship.
Sometimes you have to deal with bad people to get
good results, don't you. Oh?

Speaker 7 (15:43):
Absolutely, And you're recalling his first term. He went to
see the North Korean leader Kim Jong un, and although
Kim did not accept what he offered him. He offered
him a great pathway to huge prosperity for his people
and ultimately freedom. Of of course, those tyrannical authoritarians don't like
the freedom part very much, so he turned him down.

(16:07):
But mister Putin is no longer the head of a
communist country or a dictatorship so to speak, you know.
I mean, he did get re elected in some spishy circumstances,
but Russia itself has come a long ways from the
Soviet Union, and I think he's looking for a way
to get a good deal out of this, for one,

(16:29):
for his country economically from that perspective, and to really
settle the issue which is vital to Russia, the issue
of Ukraine, and it's what is called It's near abroad
that it has always safeguarded very jealously for a thousand
years or more, not just since the Soviet Union existed.
That area was settled and the creation of what's called

(16:53):
the russ The Russian people started right there in Yev.
So they have a big vital interest that's and I
think the President of Russia wants to get this done.
But unfortunately he still holds most of the cars and
he could just keep grinding out the artillery and the
infantry in the tanks and the drones, probably for as

(17:13):
long as he needs to, until the Ukrainians are out
of people.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Grinding it out.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I think that's exactly the right term, because I think
when that thing started back in twenty twenty two, most
of us thought it might go a week or two
or three at the most. But grinding announce what has
turned out to be the Russian Army didn't turn out
to be what I thought it was going to be
for sure when that thing first started. Here we are
three and a half years later, it's still grinding away.
Let me ask you one other conflict going on, and
President was willing us to meet with people. Twenty one

(17:41):
strikes I believe on drug boats so far in the
Caribbean and Eastern Pacific. Eighty eight casualties so far in
this real war on drugs. But now Donald Trump says
he will meet with Maduro. What do you make of that.

Speaker 7 (17:54):
I think all of this movement, for all of the
military assets that have been moved into the air, have
been to the build up to where Donald Trump could
get the window open to talk with Madeiro forced open
and that's what all this force has been about moving
it down there. And you know, striking the boats is

(18:15):
not just to show a force. Obviously, we're killing people
and destroying assets and their drug assets that come into
this country. I don't care which drug it is. They
come in and it causes overdoses, it kills Americans, and
we have to continue to do that no matter what
Madeiro does. But if Venezuela will become a freedom loving

(18:35):
Western style democracy again and walk away from this communism
that Chavez and Madeiro and this narco terrorism back to
government that Maduro is running now, they could become the
richest country in the Western hemisphere, if not the world
again because they have more oil than everybody. But as
long as this is continuing and Maduro stays in place,

(18:57):
they're going to continue down this road and we're going
to keep doing what we're doing, and eventually we will
have to take some further or more aggressive pedetic action,
in my opinion, is what I think they're leading up to.
But I don't the president doesn't want to do that.
He's the President of peace, wants to be known as that,
wants to give him Aduro an opportunity to opt out
from his illegitimate position as the head of the de

(19:20):
facto cartel led government now in Venezuela, and everybody around
the world recognizes he's illegitimate. He knows that, and it'd
be easy for him to walk away if he could
get some guarantees for his family and his team's safety.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Apparently I only got about twenty seconds here, But one
more thing on the whole narco drug terrorists and these networks.
What about Mexico. Shinbaum, the President of Mexico, says absolutely not.
Would we allow the Americans to help us here. But look,
in order to tackle the drug crisis, you've got to
take it to where the drug crisis is.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Twenty seconds.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
Last word to you, Well, the fitanel that kills between
seventy thousand and one hundred thousand Americans every year comes
through Mexico. That's where China sends the precursors it's manufactured
there gets smuggled in. I have always advocated that we
use our special operations forces that are on our southern
border to go after those targets. And if the Mexican

(20:10):
government will to operate, they're going to have to figure
out how to live with.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
It, Colonel manis always a pleasure and always enlightening. Sir,
thank you for being here as always, Thank you, Steve, Happy,
thanks you happy, thanks k Well they can breaking me
right back on America's voice loud. Well, you guess it

(20:43):
is time to hit the mail bag and see what
you the people have to say. First up is Vince.
Vince hEDS says this, Steve, we all hear about these
illegals getting thirty five hundred dollars a month in benefits,
free housing, free housing, free free free. Well, I'm a
single white male with forced lung disease. How is that
I cannot get disability? I went to the story, I said,

(21:04):
barely afford bread. Someone was in there with two shopping
cards full of groceries. I'll give you one guess how
she paid for all of that. That's right, over seven
hundred dollars worth of food. I have Stage four lung disease,
den I disability and can barely afford bread. I'm bound
to about ninety five pounds and literally starving every day.
Not sure how much time I've got left, but starving

(21:25):
to death with a nasty disease not a pleasant way
to go. PS. Please make this make sense, Vince. I'm
doing my best. My heart cries out for you, brother,
Yeah it does.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
And so we're gonna say a prayer for you. Here,
the family of Reps say a prayer for Vince, would
you please? He needs some hope today.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Casey Brandaw writes this as a senior citizen. My biggest
concern is property taxes. They've doubled since the pandemic and
going higher again this year. I live in Maine. We're
definitely on the skids here. Look, property taxes have become
a big issue for folks, especially older folks. You've paid
for your home, you paid off your mortgage, you did
the hard work, and the government still wants to take

(22:04):
your house if you don't pay the taxes that they
raise every year.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
That's why in Michigan there is a movement of foot
to end property tax altogether, with an initiative that'll be
on the ballot next year. We hope, John de Bresnik,
that's as close as I can come. John, doing the
best I can. Me and my wife are aut Obamacare.
I'm retired, won't be able to get Medicare until August.
My wife is going to get Social Security. In March,
she'll be sixty two. Our insurance is now at four

(22:28):
hundred dollars a month. It's going up to thirty four
hundred dollars a month when we got on Obamacare because
she had a pre existing condition. She's not on disability.
There's no way we could pay that much for insurance. Again,
this brings me back to send the money to the people.
That's the proposal there. Send the money to the people.
Make the insurance companies bid for your business. We've got

(22:50):
to be able to do better. Hope in Iraki, she
has this for us. Where were all the screeching Democrats
and mainstream media when the Biden demonstration caused the inflation problem?
Now they want to blame President Trump and his administration
for not fixing it fast enough. If it weren't for
double standards, then the left would have none. I agree
with that. Remember inflation went over nine percent during the

(23:12):
Biden administration. They're doing their level best to get it back.
But come on, folks, takes a little bit of time.
Have some faith, would you please? Michael Carriage writes this,
as I surveyed the endless discussions on the merits of
thirty versus fifty year mortgages. The point that keeps getting
overlooked is clearingly obvious. There was a time when all loans, auto, mortgage,
et ceter were predicated on the principle simple interest. This

(23:35):
meant that with each payment, a fixed portion of the
principle went down. The banks conspired to institute the concept
of amortization, where they would profit by front loading the
interest to prolong.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
The prepayment debt.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
So the issue is not the length of the mortgage term,
but the amortization process, which was instituted to become legalized
loan sharking by the financial institutions. This is the real issue.
If mortgage loans were to go back to the simple
interest loan payment models, well things would be better. Home
ownership and mortgage payoffs would accelerate, and people would own
their home sooner and not pay three to four times

(24:08):
the amount of the actual original cost.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
It is loan sharking and legalized theft. Period.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I've illustrated this fact that everyone that this amortization scheme
must end advice to all mortgage just has a tax
right off over thirty years as a joke. You own
nothing until you fully own something, so make mortgage payoff
full ownership a priority one issue, not a thirty or
fifty year bleedout. You know what, I don't know because

(24:34):
I'm not a banker. I don't know because I'm not
a finance guy. So I need some other folks out there.
Send me an email Steve Grouber dot com tell me
if what he had just explained there is accurate and right.
I want to fact check that to make sure that
we're on the same page. If it is true, well
we need to change some rules, and don't we. Brenda
Gloria writes, you asked my main bill is my electricity

(24:55):
in Texas.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
It's gone up about thirty percent. Plus.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Everything I have has gone up, have not gone down.
Gas has gone down to twenty five the other day,
but Diesel has not watch you all the time. Well,
I appreciate that. Thank you so much for that. In
room for one more here, Aggie L. I was hoping
you would talk about the movement in Michigan to collect
petitions to end property tax.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I just did.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Now I'm doing it again. It is called axmi tax
dot org. By the way, if you want to find
out more, Axmi tax dot Org started by Business owner
Carlo Wagner property tax is the biggest threat to seniors
being able to stay in there paid four homes. I agree,
this is an issue for seniors being forced to pay
property taxes that are raised when they're Social Security. Other

(25:39):
fixed incomes remain the same. All right, great mail bag.
Really appreciate you guys doing it. Steve Gruver dot Com.
Send me those notes. I'll read them right here from
time to time. Don't go anywhere. This Black Friday edition
of America's Voice Live will continue after a brief break
where I'll bring on Ben Berkwam to discuss President Trump's
success at the border. Stay tuned, we'll be right back

(26:10):
and welcome back to this Black Friday edition of America's
Voice Live.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
You know, one of the things I'm thankful for this
time of the year, a secure border. I think we
all are.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
America's border is the most secure it's been in over
fifty years. It's all thanks to President Trump and his
America First policies. That's clear. The previous administration allowed hundreds
of thousands, I mean really millions of illegals to come
into the country, from everyday normal people to violent gang
members and everything in between. Right everything between. We don't
really know. Now that we have a president who allows

(26:38):
ICE to do its job. We're seeing the deportation of
illegal aliens with ties of Trende Aragua, the cartels, other
violent gangs from around the world.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yet we're seeing it all.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Going out to discuss this further, a man who's been
on the front line through it all, Real America's Voice
correspondent and the host of Law and Border, Ben Berkwan,
been nice to see you and Happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, happy Thanksgiving, and and he has risen.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
We're heading into Christmas, don't I don't go shopping on
black with black shirts. So that's that's my black that's
my Black Friday celebration.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I'm shopping on Black Friday from my computer as I
usually do, just you know, I just stay right at home.
Then there's no argument that this president has changed the
trajectory of where we were headed as a country. Some
people put it as high as twenty million, some people
put it lower. We don't really know. That's the problem.
We don't know who came in our country during the
Biden administration, do we.

Speaker 8 (27:31):
No, We're starting to and this is what's crazy about this.
Steve is I'm riding out there with Ice and border
patrol and the people were picking up. It is shocking
the illegals that Joe Biden led into our country that
were basically waved in with with no background checks, and
now we're finding out many of them. You know, I've
had red notices from Interpol on some of these guys

(27:52):
that were picking up that Joe Biden let into our country.
Thank God. You talk about Thanksgiving and things to be
thankful for. Thank God President Trump won the election and
it's not Kamala Harrison there. We would be dead as
a nation. And in some ways, I still, you know,
I still wonder how will we ever be able to
turn this around when you have these activist judges directly

(28:13):
assaulting President Trump and attacking his administration and trying to
undo all the good things he's doing. But again, thank
God for President Trump.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Let me point out something because people have a preconceived
notion about who the illegals are in this country.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
The truth is they come.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
From all over the world. It's not just from Central
and South America. And one headline caught my attention. You
probably saw it to this woman from Moldova accused of
flinging the United States because she had beaten a woman
and tortured her, beating her with electric lines and so
forth with electric lines, and then threw her off a
nine story building to kill her. Right, I mean, this

(28:51):
is one of the people that was let into our
country illegally. And thank God for ICE for finding people
like this.

Speaker 8 (28:56):
Right Yeah, And every single day we're I'm riding with
these guys, and that's what we're finding.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
We're finding.

Speaker 8 (29:03):
You know, this was their original target from the beginning,
going after the worst of the worst. President Trump and
Tom Holman. That's what they tasked ICE with because the
numbers are so vast. You say, you know, how do
you deal with this? It's kind of like eating an elephant.
You have to do it one bite at a time.
In this case, you're going you know, they're going after
the worst of the worst. They're trying to get the
worst of the worst. And as they're doing that, they're

(29:24):
getting obstructed at every turn. You have these activists across
America trying to protect these illegals. I had one case
where we had we were surrounded by activists. We had
an illegal alien in a house who was known a
known gang member, cartel member had been convicted of multiple
gun charges, was thought to be involved in multiple homicides,

(29:44):
and we were not able to catch that guy because
the last leftist activists that surrounded our car and obstructed
ices operation.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
So this is happening every day.

Speaker 8 (29:54):
Every single community across America has violent criminal illegals in
their neighborhoods, and it's President trump job, in this administration's
job to go get them. But sadly, every day they're
getting obstructed by traders in our own country. It's really,
it's really a shame. And that's my big thing. If
we can change one thing this year. I don't I
don't do New Year's resolutions, but I will say if
we can change one thing going into this new year,

(30:15):
it's to get to actually see prosecutions against these traders
in our country.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Well, that's true, and we are going to have the worst,
the worst, because look, I don't know if you ever
reverse course on twenty million people, whatever the number is.
Ben I'm going to go twenty million in the country illegally.
I don't think you ever get all the way there.
You might get part of the way there, and hopefully
we'll find that people like those horrible murderer from Moldova
and others, gang members, drug dealers, child rape, us, all

(30:43):
of it. But we haven't get all the way back
to where we started when Joe Biden first stumbled into
the Oval office.

Speaker 8 (30:51):
No, I don't think so, and I honestly look I
look at this pragmatically as President Trump probably looks at
it as well. You do everything you can ever redecision
you make, you think what's best for the American people,
and at some point the dollars and cents you get
rid of the worst or the worst.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
But this really.

Speaker 8 (31:07):
Comes back to we have to in twenty twenty six
elect enough, get rid of enough Rhinos in the House,
and elect enough Maga Republicans in the House in the
Senate to actually make some of these things permanent, because
if we don't do that, four years from now, we
could be back in the same boat or in a
worse situation. So that's really what this is about. It's
about making permanent changes. So we've stopped the bleeding. President

(31:28):
Trump did that. Border Patrol has done that on the
southern border and the northern border. But it's all about
making these changes permanent and eventually, you know, getting rid
of that wound that's been created in our country. But no,
you're right. I don't think you ever get rid of
all twenty million of them. But what you do is
you try to prevent the most harm possible.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Look, there's some proposals being put forth that they can
never be citizens, but they can be here legally if
they've been here for some extended period of time and
they have not created a problem or committed a crime.
I think the conversations we're gonna be forced to have
because otherwise we're gonna be chasing our tail for a
long time.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Ben, I'll give you the last word.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
Yeah, we could have those conversations at some point, but
it's premature to having Now.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
People always start with that. I say, we start with.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
Deporting everyone we possibly can, and then once we get
everything secure and we prosecute the traders that allowed it,
then we can have those conversations.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Fair enough, ben Berg kwam.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
He's been on the front line of of well, he's
been from here to Central America to South American back
a few times.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Longboarding.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
You can catch it right here in real America's voice. Ben, again,
have a great Black Friday.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
We'll talk again soon. Thank you. Steve.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
There you have it, Ben bur Kwalm everybody, I don't
go anywhere. This Black Friday edition of America's Voice Live
will continue after a short break. Welcome back to the

(33:03):
Black Friday edition of America's Voice. I hope you're all
enjoying some Thanksgiving leftovers. I know we are. It's been
a little over a year now since the nation elected
Donald Trump to clean up the mess left behind by
Joe Biden and his far left posse of question about that.
In less than a year, President Trump has made great
progress toward making America great again, from securing the border,
to tackling crime, and even ensuring America's dominance on the

(33:25):
world stage for the use of tariffs, not to mention
the multiple wars that he has helped bring to an end.
Despite what the Democrats may say, President Trump has put
America first every step of the way. Is best he
could and I believe he will continue to do so
despite continuous backlash and apoplectic reactions from the far left.
Here'll be to discuss this as the president of the
Conservative Caucus. Jim Faff Jim, nice to see you here.

(33:49):
Good to see Steve.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Now the truth.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Is that Donald Trump's numbers are a little soft as
far as popularity goes and approval numbers go.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
But it's because it never ends.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Lentless attacks on Donald Trump, the relentless court actions, the
relentless headlines, and the way they do things on sixty
minutes or wherever, where they make it look like he
says one thing and does another. You know, at the
BBC this past week, they had to fire some people
because of the way they edited deceptively a conversation with
Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It just never ends.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
There's a constant barrage of propaganda that's anti Trump from
the mainstream media.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
True, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
That's absolutely true. He's been living under that for well
over ten years now. And the reason that it's happening
is because all of the foundational structures that had grown
in Washington up until the time in twenty fifteen when
he announced he was going to run for president. They're

(34:47):
threatened by him, so they need to destroy that because
they also know he's potentially effective and net Donald Trump's
been winning that battle.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
He just has to keep fighting it.

Speaker 9 (34:58):
And I think that they're there's actually some good times ahead.
He's smart enough to understand what's taking place, and determined
and principled enough, frankly to not let it get him
down and stay on track.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
And of course he might be the one person that
can take the constant barrage and kind of let it
just run.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Off his back. Doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Look, let's talk about healthcare for a moment in this country.
He's done a couple of things that are pretty important.
He made a move with Trump OURX to bring down
prescription prices, so important fact that Mark Cuban and open
Trump hater, said, you know what, that's a pretty good
idea and brought his company to the table to help
Americans have much more affordable prices when it comes to
prescription medications.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
He lowered the price of insulin.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
He came in to lower the price of GLP ones,
weight loss drugs to help people that are battling obesity,
and all these things. And so those are all great
stuffs forward that I think will be noticed. And then
he put forth this idea that I think is a
great idea for a conversation. Let's stop sending all this
money through the Affordable Care Act that gets taken by
the insurance companies to make them fat and happy and
give it to the American people and health savings accounts.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I think this is genius.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
You're going to see some legislation from the Republicans in
short order on this that is going to say, look,
let's move this forward and give Americans the choice of
what health insurance they want. I think it's going to
make the insurance companies compete. It's going to return the
free market to American healthcare. I think again, it's a
great conversation to have your thoughts.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
Yeah, and I think with that they need to move
forward as well with aspects of Andy Biggs, Congressman from Arizona,
his repeal of Obamacare.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Listen, it's the season for signing up.

Speaker 9 (36:36):
For healthcare on healthcare dot Gov, which I was taking
a look at myself and I'm like, I'm totally fed
up with that thing. Let me go find a private plan.
But you remember and realize that those plans have to
conform to Obamacare. When government gets in the middle of
these things, they make it more expensive and much worse

(36:57):
to manage. So it's great to see this idea that
Barack Obama built up that the hospitals and the insurance
companies would be able to take a massive cut off
the top of everyone's premiums and not have to compete
in the free market, keeping their prices down and working
with other inputs to keep the prices down. Obamacare made

(37:21):
us a social medicine nation.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
It did.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
And I'll say this, I'll compare it to evs.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
When your business plan is based on federal government subsidies,
that's no business plan. That's just a pilfering from the
American taxpayers. And I didn't realize recently. I guess I
had a misconception here. Only seven percent of Americans used Obamacare.
Seven percent. I mean, we can do better all the
money we spend for that. Come on, we can do better,

(37:50):
can't we? Oh, we surely can.

Speaker 9 (37:53):
Every dollar that goes into a government program or is
expended through a highly regulated part of an economy is
always inefficiently used. If you leave it to individuals to
make the decisions that work best for them, they never
get it perfect either, but the kind of waste and

(38:13):
outrageous misuse of that money is highly reduced. And if
you have a short term problem with that, you can
fix it in the long run by making other choices.
Choice is removed whenever government is involved, and that's one
of the great that's the reason for the great failure
of Obamacare. And even if we went back to exactly

(38:35):
where we were before Obamacare that really did have some
of its problems and was kind of regulated, Heavenly, it
still was far more efficient because people were making their
own decisions every day. You always do better when you
get to make your decision at the micro level, right
where you're at. Then have someone from Washington, DC make
that decision for you.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Completely agree.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I got less than a minute here, but I want
to get you to weigh in on those twenty one
in New York City. By connecting with the idea of affordability.
Republicans should not ignore that. Conservatives should not ignore that
is going to be a major issue come the midterms.
I give you the last word, thirty seconds to you, Jim,
Absolutely listen.

Speaker 9 (39:14):
Donald Trump has had fantastic success in the international stage
and we're all happy for it. But right now, our
entire focus is affordability. The FED chairman that he points
is going to be really important. And then we got
to keep working and hopefully Republicans that work with him
to reduce government that is imposed upon all of us.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Let us choose and the prices will go down. There
you go. It's always about the free market. That's what
powers this country. Less government interference, more personal choices. It
can only help us in the long run and the
short run too. Jim, thank you for being here.

Speaker 9 (39:48):
Thanks Steve.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
All right after the right clob story to remind us
of how wonderful America is. Plus answers to our America's
Voice question today, where do you like to shop? If
you do for Black Friday deals, where do you go?
Are you holding on your money this year? We'll talk
about it after the break on America's Voice Flash.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
What makes America wonderful?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
We do it every day with the hope of putting
a smile on your face, even on Black Friday.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Today's story comes to us from deln New Jersey, where
a police department required a new canine member. That isn't well,
not your typical breed to say the least, but most
think of canine units as being German shepherds or bloodhounds.
The delver And police department set their sights on Ron Ron's,
a pitfull who is only days away from being euthanized.

(40:41):
How thanks to a nonprofit unbreakable. That's right for bull,
you got it and the Denver NPD. Ron had a
second shot at life. Good job Ron. After rigorous training
and recovery, Ron was officially sworn in and given to
his handler, patrolman Tyler Malia, who noticed his apprehension given run,
breed and uncertainty that was well quickly dispelled after Ron's

(41:04):
nose helped a narcotic search in a neighboring town which
led to two arrests. Nice start, talk about a great
rookie year. Finding a purpose is always a wonderful thing.
And the kindness, the kindness shown by the Dunman Police
Department towards Ron the pit bull, reminds us what makes
America wonderful. Do not judge a book by its cover.

(41:25):
Well done, Ron, getting those drug dealers off the streets.
I love that, all right. So here's your question. Where
do you like to shop for Black Friday deals? Is
blackfri It's not what it used to be, right, I
mean they're not all crowding stores and running over.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Old people anymore? Right, I mean I don't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Kim Spielman Hayward writes Home Depot it's like a candy
shop for me, Kim for me too, laugh out loud.
It is home depot. I'll take one of these, two
of those, just the tool belt please. Anyhow, Nancy Lovey
Smith writes Amazon, it's convenient the three oldest grand kids
get money. The three youngest I still shop for their parents. Well,

(42:03):
they're out of luck. Tough times, sorry, mom, dad. Yeah,
you got your stuff when you were kids. Slaine or Shiga,
we never have bought into that madness, you know, Sleayne.
I agree with you on that the madness. I never
went to those stores ever. I'd watched the videos though,
very entertaining. Yeah, look at it. They just tackled an

(42:24):
old woman trying to get a television said, what is
wrong with me? Lisa ltea. Menars is my favorite store.
Their sales are great and Amazon I can find some
good deals there, you can. Sharon Hoover writes, too far
away Parking for me to go into the stores. I've
got my Christmas shopping done. Besides ordering food items to
ship from catalogs and give money to grown children to

(42:47):
treat themselves. Well, you know, if you need to send
some more money, I'm just Kiddingdale, Mlusy writes, I don't,
even though it brings out the best in people, I
opt out. I did I opt out up? Phyllis running higher.
I absolutely do not shop on Black Friday, not even online.
It's not worth it. Well, I see how some people

(43:08):
feel that way. Boba JT Boba? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Is that Boba? All right?

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Steve Grewer's QVC news station. Okay, I appreciate that. Is
it QVC?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Whatever it is?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Robert Kowalzik Minards Minards. That's two votes from Minards. One
for home Depot, Home Deepot. You have to pick up
the pace around here. You're going to be out class
here on Black Friday. Did you go anywhere today for
Black Friday? I personally didn't. I've been here working for you,
Pat downing my couch. You know, Pat, With modern technology,

(43:44):
it's kind of hard to beat, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
You just sit here and go I'll take this and
this and this.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
You know, a few years ago, I had a guy
tell me nobody will ever have groceries delivered because they
want to go to the grocery store. Well, that's proven
not to be true, isn't it. I think he was
off of that I couldn't tell you. I mean, I
love going to the grocer. I think the greatest thing
in America is to go to a supermarket, the big
markets where you can get milk and butter and meat,
and then you walk the other side of this ring

(44:09):
and you get dog food and cat food, and then
you will get your paper products and heck, if you want,
you go buy tires. I think that's America encapsulated, the
free market, everything under one roof. It's remarkable something to
still be thankful for after yesterday. God, it's a great country,
and what a country. I love this country. I do.
That's why we fight for it here at Real America's

(44:29):
Voice every single day. Whatever you do for Black Friday,
be safe out there, be courteous, open a door, say
thank you. It doesn't get done enough. Say thank you
to people that are working for you.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
And be kind. How about that for Black Friday? Just
be kind.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
We appreciate you being here as always we do. My friends.
I hope you leave with a smile on your face
and we'll talk again very soon.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
God bless America.
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