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Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve gurrid Is. Tuesday,
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On some of the day's top stories.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Just the news reporting that FBI Director Cash could Tell
recently turned over a newly declassified intelligence report to Congress
revealing China had produced fake US driver's licenses in twenty
twenty to carry out a scheme to hijack the Electional
fake Millon bounce.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
In favor of Joe Biden will take a deeper look today.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Also, President Trump decided to draw from the G seven
summit and shift his attention to the situation between Israel
and Iran. President Trump has issued several statements on the conflict,
including a warning to evacuate Tehran, which, by the way,
those living there did. It seems the trigger could indeed
be pulled any minute here, which is why I want
to start with this topic today.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And that's a roan Israel. President Trump curly meeting with his.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
National security team in the situation room as we speak,
in the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran, where both
nations have tired of each other with missiles, Israel going
after the nuclear capabilities of Iran, and Iran going after
Israel anywhere they can. President Trump has expressed that Iran's
refusal to sign a nuclear deal is a waste of
human life and has urged people to evacuate Tehran, which
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they did.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Now, let me be clear about this.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
The President doesn't go in the situation room unless there's
a situation he needs to evaluate and potentially make a decision.
Today could be a big decision day. That's why he
is in the decision room. Usually, these national security advisors
and such would meet on their own.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Another question out lying.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Today is d and I Tulca Gabbart, what is her
standing with the president. He has dismissed her evaluations of
the Tehran situation and the Iranian nuclear capabilities over the last.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Twenty four hours quite bluntly.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
In fact, on Air Force one returning to DC from Calgary,
he said, I don't care what she said about their capabilities.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I believe they're capable. Right now, here will be to
discuss this.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
As the former special assistant too, President Trump, Colonel Derek Harvey, Colonel,
nice to see you here today, appreciate it all right,
So explain for anybody who doesn't know what I just said,
and lay it out if you will. The President doesn't
go into the situation room unless honestly, there's a situation
in which he has to weigh in on. He'll hear
from all sides. He may make a decision in the room.
He may go back to the West Wing, go to
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the Oval Office, come back with a decision.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But this is a very serious moment.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Isn't it.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
It is In point of fact, the President may have
already given guidance for the objective and the goals that
he wants to try to achieve given the current situation
and how things have evolved over the last five days.
And the National Security Staff, Secretary of State Rubio, the
National Security Advisors, Secretary Defense and others will be there,
including d and I Gabbard, and they will be looking at,
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you know, what are the options for the president to
consider in order to achieve the goals and objectives that
he has outlined. And that's for the President to decide,
and they will evaluate and discuss risks and opportunities. And
from a broad geostrategic perspective, you know, the goal is
first and foremost the destruction of the missile capabilities and
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the nuclear capabilities.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
But when you look at.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
The global geostrategic map, the chessboard, if you will, has
been the fundamental actor, the destabilizing force that has kept
the United States and tangled in the region. And if
there's an opportunity for organic, organic Iranian revolution to change
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that regime, that could be the best outcome because that
hurts China, it frees up to Middle.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
East a better course, and can allow.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Us to shift our focus to Asia in a way
where we're no longer entangled in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
In fact, Current Life spoke about this on the program
over the last couple of days. Aron's oil fields being
compromised impacts Russia, China, North Korea. Obviously, it impacts the
pocketbook of irod so four of our biggest analysis, maybe
the biggest of all, being China being damaged by this.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
About twenty five percent of China's.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oil comes from Iran, either through the front door or
out the back door. We know that it finances Iran
and their ability to finance terrorism.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Now, I've been looking at.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Some posts here by the President on Truth Social over.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
The last couple of hours. Let me read a couple
to you. We now have complete and total control of
the skies over Iran. Iran had good.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Skytrackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it. But
it doesn't compare to American made, conceved and manufactured stuff.
As he put it, nobody does it better than the
good old US of A. Here's one that I think
is fairly telling. We know exactly where the so called
Supreme Leader is hiding. He is an easy target but
is safe there. We're not going to take him out,
And in parentheses he says kill at least not for now,
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but we don't want missile shot at civilians or American
soldiers our patients is Warrington, thank you for your attention
to this matter and following that up moments later in
all capitals unconditional surrender. I think it's safe to say, Colonel,
that Iran is at its weakest point since the Revolution
of nineteen seventy nine, when they took fifty two Americans
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captive for four hundred and forty four days, a dismal
moment in American history. Member it quite well, Donald Trump
might have an opportunity here to see a change in
leadership in Iran the first time in a couple generations.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
How pivotal would that be.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
It would be dramatic.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
It would be a major shift and really set a
course for stabilizing the Middle East, because Iran has been
the great destabilizer. You know, just eighteen months ago they
controlled four Arab capitals and their proxies are being defeated
and they're dying on the vine, if not already neutralized.
But importantly it impacts China, as you just said, economically,
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but also it allows the United States if this outcome
moves forward with no ceasefire, and I mean with no
ceasefire in the defeat of the Iranian regime, perhaps an
organic revolution and a real change of the regime that
allows the United States to focus its efforts on Asia
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against our greatest strategic enemy or adversary, and that is
in Beijing. And we've been entangled in the region for
the last forty five seven to forty seven years, mainly
because of what Iran has been doing. Then they call
us the Great Satan and Israel the little Satan. Keep
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in mind the President does not want troops on the ground.
He's been shifting air power and sea power to the region.
And Thursday looks like a big day because the Israelis
have declared that Thursday is very important for what they're
going to be doing.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
You haven't seen anything yet.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
According to officials in Tel Aviv, Thursday's something we should
be looking for.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
So why would they Why would they put that out there? Colonel,
Why would they? Because this has been put out for
all to see, for all to consume Thursday, and they
compare it to their attack uosing pages, which for something
they were a bit of a marvel. We all marveled
at how precise and impactful that was. When these pages
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are blowing up all over the Middle East, killing members
of Hezbollah in terrorist leadership simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Why would they Why would they telegraph.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Or basically put it on the front page look out Thursday?
Something serious? Well, why would they do that? Can they
get I mean, can they really be I mean iking
it to bay Ruth's pointing to the standsday, I'm going
to hit a home run there. I mean, they're telling
the world what they're going to do. Can they really
be that bold?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I think so?
Speaker 6 (08:30):
And you know the warnings to get out of Tehran.
There are dozens of nuclear related sites in the Tehran
area that have not been hit.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Or sufficiently hit.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
There are dozens of other missile and research research related
sites that still need to be hit.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
There are other targets that still.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Need to be hit outside the Tehran area. And then
you got Ford, oh, the main Mountain nuclear plant of
research facility and uranium location that needs to be hit.
And you know, we don't know when all this is
going to come together, but this is very important. They're
going to get hit more broadly because they've got the
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freedom to do it, and they're expanding operations on the ground.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
We don't know if some of these reports are correct.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
But you know, there was one report I haven't seen
and confirmed that former president Adaminijad may have been assassinated,
and other leaders are being assassinated, and Kurdish elements are
starting to say that they're engaging in the conflict. So
we're going to have to wait and see how this
plays out. And we're still at the very beginning. Keep
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in mind, we bombed a rock for two months in
nineteen ninety one before we.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Set foot into Kuwait. There's still a long way.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
To go, and airpower can do a lot of damage,
but they can be very resilient, and the regime still
has a lot of capabilities.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Here is the.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Here is the part of the equation that I think
is most important, maybe most dangerous, maybe most unpredictable, and
that is that oil going to China from around We
know the president she has been losing some of his
grip on power over the last year, economics being a
driver of that. There's problems in China when it comes
to the economy. The factories are not humming along, people
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are not working as much as they were, the money's
not flowing, and therefore there's already a sense of unsettlement
in China right now. If the oil gets squeezed off
from around further, it could create bigger complications for she
But that puts him into a corner, and as we
all know, a cornered animal can be very dangerous. This
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could create some unpredictability out of Beijing.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Too, couldn't it.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Yes, it could, But I would say that they're going
to be very rational about this. They've got their own
timeline for things, and they will. They've got very good
economists and you know, financiers that are looking at the markets.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I think they can manage this.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Costs will be higher for them than they want, Prices
will go up on the global market and China will
have to find other sources. We'll see what Saudi Arabian
others do to try and address any temporary shortages that
you may or may not impact China's ability to adjust.
But you know, I'm not focused on that issue. I
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don't think there's going to be an overreaction by Beijing.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Meanwhile, the price of silver is way up. The price
of gold says stable. The markets don't seem impressed. Up
three hundred yes day, down three hundred today. Economically, Wall
Street doesn't seem concerned about this. Not necessarily a good
indicator of what's happening behind closed doors in the situation room,
but just another tea leaf. I mean a lot of
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different indicators here, Colonel. There's not a single thing we
can point to. You have to take into account all
of these different factors.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Right.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Well, I think because the war is so overwhelmingly going
Israel's way and you know, the weakness shown by you know,
Tehran and the IRGC and the inability to really strike back.
You know, there's been loss of life, there have been
hundreds of missile shot, but keep in mind, you know,
the Israeli leadership thought there would be four thousand killed
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and you know many many more wounded, Okay from barrages.
So this has been wildly successful and has opened up
opportunities to look at other options, to include regime change.
But the campaign's going to have to go on. And
I think the President has signaled clearly and his leadership
has been you know, extremely good, and he's been ahead
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of you know, prognosticators, and I think a lot of
his own staff about understanding what he wants to do
and what the opportunities are that are being developed. He said,
no cease fire, no desire to negotiate complete surrender. Those
are pretty tough redlines that he put out over the
last twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
They certainly are. So.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
The last question today, Colonel, is this best guess.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Do we get involved directly in this war?
Speaker 6 (13:09):
I do not think we get involved in any ground
way or any significant way. Air power. Limited air power,
I think is an assistance. I'm going after. You know,
the Foidah Mountain nuclear facility is probably the biggest reach
at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah. Four to oh one.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
John Feman the Democrats Center from Pennsylvania says, keep dropping
three hundred fifty thou pound bombs into you, do you
get the job done? So there's some bipartisan support for
going after that facility.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Colonel. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I'm sure we'll talk again as a situation continues to evolve.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Sir, thank you for being here.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Appreciate your work, Steve.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Thank you all right up after this is important stuff, folks.
We're trying to give you as much information as we can,
make sure you understand it as best as possible from
as many angles as possible. After the break, I'll tell
you about a reason that BI intelligence report giving the
Congress that cites a Chinese plot meant to create fake
mail in ballots for the twenty twenty election. It was
poop food back then. But guess what the facts are
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coming out?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
We'll have them after the break.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well, just the news reporting that FBI Director Cash Buttel
turned over a newly classified intelligence report to Congress last
night revealing China had mass produced fake American driver's licenses
back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It was all in a scheme to carry out.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
An attempt to hijack the election with fake mail in
ballots in favor, of course, of Joe Biden, an intelligence
report in August of twenty twenty. It was never corroborated
or fully investigating. Fact, it was basically set aside. This
was also when then FBI Director Chris Ray testified there
were no known plot of election interference prior to Biden
defeating Donald Trump in November of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Here'll be now to discuss. This is the host of
Justin New's.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
No Noise, John Salmon, and the man behind justinews dot com. John.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Look here we are again.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Looking backward saying yep, well, we talked about this in
twenty twenty, I think they found almost twenty thousand driver's
licenses at O'Hare International Airports, Chicago, and it was like, yeah,
that's not a big deal. The truth is what.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
It was a big deal because it was corroboration for
a plot that a confidential human source had told the
FBI about in August twenty twenty. But neither the original
intelligence coming in from the informant or the subsequent seizure
of twenty thousand fake driver's licenses from Hong Kong and
China got the FBI offered stuff to investigate whether there
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was an ongoing effort to malignly influence a twenty twenty
election by a foreign power. It's really remarkable. These things
would normally automatically create investigations, but here somebody grabbed it
into a dark closet and kept it from the American people,
from the Congress, and of course we were told after
the election, no foreign intrusions at all. We now know
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there were two separate attempt at foreign intrusians in the
twenty twenty election.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Well, here's a couple of questions about all that. First
of all, was Christopher.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Ray weighing in on this on one side or the
other the election, because it sure seems that way when
you look at the facts on the ground here. And
then the important question is how many driver's licenses made
it through and how many illegals actually voted. Any way
to ever figure.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
That out, well there is now Listen, there should be
five years later, we can still go back and recreate
the evidence trail. Interview the source again. Go get those
driver's licenses, check them for fingerprints. Interview Chinese citizens on
the ground who are here or still are here that
may have been there. Then go back and look at
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signal intelligence, go back and look at NSA intercepts. If
the FBI wants to get to the bottom of this,
it can, and we'll see. Cashptel orders that the first
step was turning this document over to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Chuck Grassi he had been told about this from an
FBI whistleblower that in fact, this got swept under the rug.
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Cash Hotel not only got the documents, he got the
proof that it was swept under the rug. The memo
goes out to all intelligence agency saying, hey, let's look
at this, and then a few days later it's pulled back.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's called recalled.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
It was recalled, and then nobody ever follows up, and
the reason for recalling it was they want to interview
the source again. I'm told that the reinterview of the
source confirmed, but the source told them the first time,
and of course the CPB confirms that the word of
fake driver's licenses. The FBI simply didn't want to know
the answer to whether China was inting intruding in our
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elections and trying to swing the election to Joe Biden,
so they swept it under the rug.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
And that brings me back to the question I started with,
where is Christopher.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Ray in this?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Who does the recall, who brings it back in, who
sweeps it under the rug?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Is his involvement?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I just a few moments ago, just before it came
on air, was able to look at this document for
the first time in a location and Steve it doesn't
have the director on it. It does have several intelligence agencies,
including the CIA, on it. It is not marked to
the director's office when the recall notice comes in. It
doesn't also identify whether the director or the seventh floor
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leadership with the FBI or on it. So Cash Mattel
and Senator Grassey have a lot of sleuthing to do
to get us those answers. But your questions are exactly
the questions that need to be answered. I'm told just
a few minutes ago Senator Grasseley sent the letter back
to cash Motel saying.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Thanks for the document. Now find out who did the recall.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
And I think that that is the next mystery that
needs to be solved in this But for the first time,
we do know the FBI had reason to think that
China was trying to swing the election to Donald Trump
or to Joe Biden and away from Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, you know, you're tells you you know, it's hard
to believe that a recall of that magnitude when Christopher
Ray appeared from Congress, how many different times, that he
would not be aware of.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
This series of facts, finds it hard to believe.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Real quickly before you go, because of your expertise inside Washington,
you know the President is in the situation room as
we speak, discussing options and feeling about what might happen
there or do they not know.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
I think they're going to give themselves maximum optionality, that
is that they want to be in a position if
they need to strike, they can strike. But right now
the post of the United States remains, we will not
participate in an offensive manner in this war. We will
protect Israel as we need, but at present we're not
going on offense. Why because Israel is already demonstrated it
has complete air superiority over Iran. It can do what
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it wants, when it wants, for however long it wants,
and that doesn't require then any US intervention. Right now,
I think the most likely scenario is that will seek
to drop a series of what are known as.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Moabs, mother of all bombs.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
They're bunker busters, and try to implode and crush the
nuclear sites and any material stored in them, so that
Iran is set back by decades, not years or months
on its nuclear weapons illicit program. Now, if the United
States going to drop a mo APP from a B two,
we can drop the single largest moab there is and
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one should penetrate and do the job. Israel doesn't have
the capability to fly that large a bomb, so it
may need to make three to five passes of dropping
moabs to ultimately eradicate a nuclear site.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So it's just going to take longer.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
I think the US right now is patient enough to
let that time take its course. Since Israel is able
to do this with dominance from the skies. What we
need to watch for is whether Iron tries to attack
the United States. If it does, then the US is
going to get involved in a big way really quickly.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I think, well change public sentiment, you know, ironically one
Democrat saying we should drop every.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Three hundred fifty thousand pounds Moab.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
We can until it's over, that being John Fetterman, strangely enough,
an irony of irony. There it is, John. We'll keep
an eye on it, sir. I always appreciate you and
foot thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, great to be with you, Steve, love the show.
There you have it, John.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Nobody knows Washington better. That's just it. Nobody knows Washington
better than that man right there. Coming up after the break,
i'll track the ongoing progression Israel Iran conflict, including the
offensive striking Iron Broadcasting headquarters. If you didn't see it, wow,
we have some breaking news just coming in legitimately and literally.
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All right, here's one of the more remarkable images since
the back and forth between Israel and Iran began a
new wave of Israeli strikes sante Ran, including a dramatic
hit on state television headquarters during a live broadcast. If
you haven't seen it, watch this fa We interrupt this
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program with breaking news. In fact, it's a missile coming
through the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, that's how that went.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Both the Israeli military and President Trump have urged citizens
who evacuated Tehran. I'm in the escalating conflict else you
might have something like that happen. Here with me to
discuss further. Foreign policy expert Harley Liman from New York City,
hardly nice to see you. Yeah, breaking news, all right,
it broke the TV station to pieces that woman's lucky
she's alive.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
To be honest with you, that's true. I was.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
I noticed that those remarkable.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, I had a lot of crazy things happened while
I was on the air. I haven't had a missile
come through the ceiling yet. Let's hope that doesn't happen. Well,
but look, a big part of these regimes is ability
to regurgitate propaganda. And when the propaganda machine gets silenced,
as it has been, well that's a change in the
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game as well.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Isn't it.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
No, absolutely, Israel has a systematic policy of eliminating all
the power chambers in the Iranian Arsenal, from their intelligence capacity,
to their air defenses, to their military commanders, to their
TV networks, and the list goes on. It's a brilliant plan.
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It's going to go down in history as one of
the most extraordinary intelligence operations in the last century.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
It's nothing short.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Of remarkable and long overdue, and it's going to rate
a better world.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You know, Israel's we have been talking about already this
hour saying something big and surprising is coming thy bigger
than the pagers where they killed a dozens and dozens
of Hesbelah terrorist operatives back a few months ago, which
we all said, what a remarkable accountlish for that was
they said something bigger is coming thirsday. Why would they
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tell the world that, Harley, I mean, it seems pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
It was.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Actually they killed and maimed hundreds of Hispello operatives and
frightened to death the remaining Thephicens that had those phagers
and made them terrified to answer any kind of phone
or of any kind of electronic equipment on them. So
it achieved its purpose not just in the moment, but
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for the future.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So what could that be.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Well, Israel perhaps is playing psychological warfare, or they have
a huge surprise for the nuclear site that foy of
viewers is the be all, the end all of the
nuclear sites of Iran. This is where they have a
lot of the major centerfuges and it's buried half a
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mile deep into the mountain, which is why this is
getting so much attention because it was built and designed
to prevent Israel or the United States or any enemy
from knocking it out. So the Iranians put a lot
of ingenuity into this, and Israel may not have the
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capacity to do that. While they perhaps have the strongest
military in the world, man for man, woman for woman,
if you will, in terms of overall superiority militarily, the
United States is still overwhelmingly number one, and as the
B twos and B fifty two bombers and stealth bombers
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that can actually knock out this facility, and it would
be a new era, new dawn and peacemaking in the
world if the United States does that.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, so do you think the United States right now?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Last report, Donald Trump is still in the situation room
of just checking my notes here. He's still there, not
sure what the decisions on the table are, but they're
probably making several contingency plans in the situation room. Everybody
weighing in here today doesn't seem to think the United
States is going to get involved too quickly. However, we
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do have a bunker buster, according to John Solomon, just
moment ago, that would penetrate that facility and potentially destroy
those centrifuges that have been buried a.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Half mile deep into that mountain. Would we do that?
Are we going to do that? Last question to you, I.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Hope we do, because you really have to imagine Ayotola coming.
He is the equivalent of the modern day Hitler. Just
think of this being nineteen thirty eight. If we had
dropped the bomb on Hitler's bunker, sixty million people would
be alive today that died of World War Two. Iran
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is the center of the world in creating death and
violence in the world and new wars. This is where
the endless wars are coming from Iran. If you stop Iran,
you're going to create a new era of peace where
the nations of the Middle East are going to work together,
and it would be a huge pushback strategically against China
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and Russia. China gets a huge amount of its oil
from Iran. If the United States either destroys or weakens
this regime, puts the United States in a very strong
position vis of each China, which is our number one adversary.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
So on all levels, while there are risks.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Overwhelmingly this would be a huge credit for President Trump
and he would win the Nobel Peace Prize for doing this,
because to stop a row nation from having a nuclear
bomb that will use one would make them a hero
to the people in the United States and to the world.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, well, we're going to find out, Harley, and we're
going to take you very close attention.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
It would be a.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Great thing, a monumental thing for a regime change in
Tehran for time since nineteen seventy nine.
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here in America's Voice.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I thank you for tuning in.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
As always, obviously with the President in the situation room,
and that's where he remains as far as we know
at this point.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
We'll give you an update when we have it.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I want to have my next guest, Congressman Andy Bigs
of Arizona, jump on me now and talk more about
this contan. Thank you for being here, also candidate for
governor in the great state of Arizona. Wish you well there.
Let's talk about this a very serious situation. Israel finally
saying iron is far too close to having a nuclear weapon,
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and in fact, some sources on this program over the
last few days put it as close as maybe ten
days that they could have a crude, workable weapon, delivery
system unknown, but still a workable weapon. I had no
idea where that close. We all thought it was months away.
Tulsey Gabbard obviously not in good standing with the President
this moment because of her information, and he was asking
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Air Force one, what do you make of her assessments?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I don't care what she said. His comment behind the
doors of.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
The situation room, any indication in your office where you
sit is to what could be happening.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, you know, we know they're talking, and we know
that they're discussing, and we know that they're in contact,
constant content with Israel, but they're also planning strategically, if necessary,
what our.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
Military might do in response.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
We have, as you know, personnel, we have infrastructure, We've
got bases and installations there, and if Iran were to
attack those, you would probably see response fairly quickly by
this president. But otherwise, I think the approach that President
Trump has taken so far has been to sit back
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and play defense here a little bit, and at the
same time providing a using this as a leverage threat
against Iran.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
I mean, nobody wants Iran to be.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Able to get a nuclear weapon, and regardless of how
soon or how distant that might be. We understand very
clearly why Israel took the action that it did, but
we also understand that we don't want to get involved
in another one of these multi generation type wars and
locations in the Middle East. So I think he's taken
(32:06):
a pretty a restrained position yet using the bully pulpit
to go after the Ayatola there and present an option,
if you will, for the Ayatola to come back, But
it's a very severe, harshsh option, and I'm not sure
(32:27):
that these people are humble enough to take it at
the highest levels. We think the Persian street or the
Iranian street is ready for a regime change, but we're
not going.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
To institute that regime change, at least not at this point.
As Donald Trump pointed.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Out he's asking for a complete surrender, unconditional surrender, in
his latest post on truth Social I'm not sure. I
think he made a great point there. I'm not sure
the Ayatolas or the Mullahs or the regime in Tehran
is ready to give aim.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That sort of surrender. I don't think they can give
it Unconditionals certare at.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
This point, however, they're at a weaker point than they
have been since nineteen seventy nine. And then the strikes
on the Iran oil fields also creating economic pressure on
them and on China by the way, by extension. So
this is important too.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Isn't it.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
It totally is because this has a dramatic impact on China,
because China is to some extent is actually dependent on
Iran for energy, and if this goes for any length
of time, China is going to be in trouble. They're
going to reach out to Russia and Russia is not
able to correspond to either. So when I look at it,
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what Israel has done is they've actually engaged the entire
world in what's going on in Iran.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
And that's real.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Let's hold that thought right there. Tongs and Biggs one.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Who's also running for governor there, will take a quick break.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
We're going to continue this conversation because there's more to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
There's more to talk about about.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
The border, about the economy, how the oil feels getting
and Ron being hit impacked, China, Rushda and North Korea,
all of it stay with us, So we continue our
conversation with Andy Biggs.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Nor all right, continuing.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
My conversation now, Congressman Andy Biggs in Arizona congresson one
of the biggest targets here, and the Israelis are saying,
look out.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Thursday is coming.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Will have bigger surprises than we had with the pages
that took out hundreds and hundreds. It has blow terraces,
which was a pretty remarkable thing at the time. We
were all talking about it, how they had pulled that
off a masterstroke and crushing the terrace has Belah members
four dough, that's the name of this underground facility. It's
about a half mileti and ironically, one of the people
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yelling the loudest to say, hit it with the biggest
bombs we can, which I think are three hundred and
fifty one thousand pound moabs. Mother of all bombs comes
from the United States. If we decided to drop one,
they'd come from a fifty two. But it's John Fetterman,
the Senator from Pennsylvania, that is the loudest saying, look,
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keep dropping the moobs until it's over.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I mean, talk about irony, right.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
It is ironic.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I mean, you know, when you think about the America
First Movement that took President Trump into office and that
he has been the leader of.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
That.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
America First Movement involves non intervention right in Forever Wars,
it involves a quest for peace, which Trump has really
gone after. And so it is because I mean your
choice of the word ironic is absolutely correct. When you
have John Fetterman saying, yeah, now it's time to just
(35:53):
destroy the leadership.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
And cut off the head of Iran.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I think this is where we get back back to
what we were talking about. I think preston Trump's redicin
to do that. I believe I haven't. We're hearing his rhetoric,
but he also assured us we would not be getting
into American wars. We don't want to lose our military personnel,
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our young men and our young women.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
We don't want civilians to be attacked.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
That is the America First movement that he leads.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I think that I did a poll on my x
feed today asking people that vote for Donald Trump, would
you still support him if we went to.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Warn the Middle East?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
And about fifteen percent said no. It is something that
is that is pivotal for some of the people to
vote for Donald Trump because there are three pillars staying
out of never ending wars forever wars in the Midle East
or anywhere else for that matter, rebuilding and securing the border,
which he's done quite well, as you know, and resetting
the financial markets of the world where the tariffs and
(37:00):
so forth come in. So he's doing pretty well. I
think that most people from where I said would forgive
air power, air spirity, moabs, those would be okay, but
putting boots on the ground as a place that I
don't think many people are comfortable with that thought. And
I don't even know if that's even on the table,
to be honest. But if Iran attacked America in some
(37:20):
substantial and significant way, I think that would change public
opinion as well.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Your thoughts one hundred percent right.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
I mean, because if Iran were to actually start taking
out American citizens, personnel, our bas is, our infrastructure, or
something else dramatic like that, then it becomes not an
aggressive offensive war becomes a defensive war and retaliation. That
(37:47):
would be the theory of the case there. But it
gets to the point which you were making, because if
you look at the pillars of America, first, the board
has been largely secured.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
It is the most secure in my lifetime.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
As a guy who lives in Arizona and grew up
in Arizona, I could taste the most secure by far
in our lifetime.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
But then when you start.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
In the economy, he's doing a masterful job at resetting
the economy, both domestically and internationally. In fact, even the
Canadian Prime Minister said, look, he's basically resetting the entire world.
And he is, and that's one of the things we
wanted to see happen. But this notion of how do
you negotiate what's going on in the Middle East becomes
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a real quandary.
Speaker 8 (38:33):
Because Israel is our ally.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
We support Israel, we help Israel, and we want to
sustain Israel. But they've engaged in this, and they've engaged
in it because Iran ostensibly is on the verge of
developing nuclear weapons with some kind of delivery mechanism. And
if that happened, then the stated reason that of Iran
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is to why Israel off the face of the earth?
Speaker 8 (39:02):
So will you attend to justify that.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
In America too? Death to America? They chant, some of
them chanting it in our own streets at this point
during these protests, which is it's antithetical to who we are.
But let me ask you about that that other tenant,
the border, it's down about ninety five percent, maybe more
in some areas, as you said, the securitist it's ever
been in your time living in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
You're running for governor there.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
How positive of an impact does that have on your
race to become governor As a Republican that the border
is in better shape than it's been in decades, Well.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
I think it reflects that Republicans actually do care about sovereignty,
national sovereignty, but also are everybody who lives along.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
The border is doing better off. And we have a
long border with.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Mexico, and quite frankly, the only thing that we concerned
about now primarily is human and drug trafficking through about
a night, two separate corridors. What about ninety one hundred
miles of border that are not adequately fenced and secured.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
But sure, if we can get that, we're going to
be in great shape. We will be in great shape.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Cons Andy Biggs greatly appreciate you being here as all ways,
we'll have you back talk more about your run for governor.
Big day in the news, of course, it seems like
every day is a big day lately.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Can't even quite keep up. But thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
Thanks Steve.
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Question of the day answers, if the US gets into
the war where the Middle East, will you still support
President Trump? That's the question today. What are your answers?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
All right? Breaking news out of Washington.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
It appears at President Trump's meeting in the situation room
has ended just moments ago, which means he has done
there for now. They met now Security Council, meant for
well over an hour. The discussion on the table obviously
the ongoing war between Israel and Iran and what happens
next and what our role in America's military role will
be going forward.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Will we be involved with bombing four do or in the.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Other Iranian military sites in an attempt to completely hobble
and destroy Arond's nuclear capabilities yet to be seen. We're
also told that Donald Trump could make his way to
a press gaggle make himself available for questions. So if
that happens in the next few Mensuel, of course, break
and go directly to that. Meanwhile, your question of the
day is this, if the United States gets involved in
(43:04):
a war in the Middle East, will you still support
President Trump. It's a touchy answer for some. Marti Klass writes, Yes,
Iran should have been dealt with in seventy nine and
we would have avoided.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Decades of issues.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Katie Coley writes, I will respect the office of the presidency,
but I do not support us going to war. It's
a sensitive subject, folks. I'm telling you this, John Dreano.
If we are sending military aid to Israel along with
war ships, planes, we are involved. It's only a matter
of time before one of our bases is attacked. That
was the military industrial complexes goal all along. Some people
(43:39):
believe that. By the way, buddy, ask you, I will
because he is president. But if he is listening, stay
out of the war. Our nation needs all of your
attention right now. It's out of control. Barbara, And yes,
because Trump can and will protect.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Us, unlike Biden.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Barbara kretch partaka, I don't like seeing in any war,
but yes, I will still support him.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Brian Sharky, Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I doubt we will get into a war, Kay Willard,
of course I will. I trust him completely with everything,
even if I don't understand it. Stacy Kirk says, we're
not going to war. I hope you're right, Stacy. I do,
and we'll leave it with this from Tony Brown. Loving definitely,
but I might add that we need to be praying
like crazy right now for President Trump. A lot of
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