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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I can speak without microphone. Thank you too much. I
think that we had a very good conversations with President Trum,
very good and it really was the best one, or sorry,
maybe the best one will be in the future, but
it was really good and we spoke about very sensitive points.
The first one is security guarantees, and we are very
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happy with President that all the leaders are here, and
the security in Ukraine depends on the United States and
on you and on those leaders who are with us
in our hearts. They have been online before yesterday and etc.
So a lot of countries on the side of Ukraine,
our people and all of us want to finish this
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word stop so Prussia and stop this war. We spoke
about it and we will speak more about security guarantees.
This is very important that the United States gives such
strong signal and is ready for security guaranteed. The second point,
or maybe the first humanitarian direction. We're important to change
all the prisoners, and I think that President will help.
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And I was very thankful to your wife again, mister President,
for the letter about our abducted children.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And I hope.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That really it can be historical for the people to
bring kids back to the families and be happy the people.
This is so important and I'm happy that we discussed
it this track with the President Trump, and I hope
that we will find decisions. And then what is very
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important that all the sensitive things territorial and etc. We
we will discuss on the level of leaders during trilateral
meeting and President Trump will try to organize such meeting.
And he said that he will come or not. Ukraine
will be happy if if you, if you, if you will,
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thank you. And I think this is very important. Yes,
so security guarantees, bringing kids back and all our people
not only warriors first of all warriors and all the civilians, journalists,
a lot of people in prison, so we need them
back and guarantees which will work for the years. We
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spoke about it, and I showed the President a lot
of details on the battlefield on the map. Thank you
so much. Thank you for the map.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
By the way, it was great.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm thinking how to take it back.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
We'll get you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No, No, I think that we had constructive, specific meeting
and I'm very thankful to all the all the leaders
who are here, and you help a lot, and so
we're happy that we.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Have such a peg unity today. Thank you, mister PREI
very much.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
President. I think you'll see that President Putin really would
like to do something else. I think when we set
that up, when we do, I think it's going to
be when not if, I think you're going to see
some very power, really positive moves. I know there's over
a thousand prisoners and I know they're going to release them.
Maybe they're going to release them very soon, like immediately,
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which I think is great, but we will We're going
to set that up today after this, after this meeting.
So very good and great remarks. I appreciate it. Marcus
head of NATO, maybe you could say a few words.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yes, I will be very brief. I really want to
thank you President of the United States, the Donalds for
the fact that you, as I said before, it broke
the deathlog basically with the President Putin best best starting
that dialogue. And I think it was in February that
you had the first a phone call and from there
we are now very are today and that is I
think if we play this well, we could end this.
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And we have to end it. We have to stop
the killing, we have to stop the destruction of Ukraine's infrastructure.
It is a terrible bore. So I'm really excited and
let's make the best out of today and make sure
that from today onwards we get this thing to an
end as soon as possible. I really want to thank
you for your leadership, what you are doing for Lord
of me, but of course also all the European colleagues.
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It is really crucial and the fact that you have
said I'm willing to participate in the security guarantees is.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
A big step.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
It's really a breakthrough and it makes all the difference.
So also thank you for that.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Well, NATO also has agreed from two percent to five percent,
which is something that is a massive amount of money.
And it's two percent. There wasn't always paid. To five
percent that is paid. It's a big difference and so
we appreciate that as great move. Thank you very much, Ursula,
maybe on behalf of the commission you could say a couple.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Of words, thank you very much. It's a pleasure to
be here and it's a very important moment. Indeed, we're
here Europeans as friends and allies. We have a fantastic
NATO summit together as the two largest and biggest economies
in the world. We had the largest trade deal ever agreed,
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and now we're here to work together with you on
a just and lasting piece for Ukraine. Stop the killing.
This is really our common interest, stop the killing. And
it's very good to hear that we're working on the
security guarantees Article five Life security guarantees so important. But
I want to thank you also that you mentioned the
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thousands of Ukrainian children that have been abducted, and as
a mother and grandmother, every single child has to go
back to its family. This should be one of our
main priorities also in these negotiations to make sure that
the children come back to Ukraine to that families.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Thank you, and we did just thinking we're here for
a different reason. But we just a couple of weeks
ago made the largest trade deal in history. So that's
a big that's a big thing. And congratulations, that's great.
Thank you very much. Yesler mister chancellor from Germany, a.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Very great leader.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
Mister President Donald many thanks for having us today. I
think this is extremely helpful that we are meeting and
hearing that the two of you are having such a
good meeting today here in Washington. The next steps ahead
are the more complicated ones. Now the path is open.
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You opened it last Friday, but now the way is
open for complicated negotiations. And to be honest, we all
would like to see a cease fire the latest from
the next meeting on. I can't imagine that the next
meeting would took place without a ceasefire. So let's work
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on that, and let's try to put pressure on Russia,
because the credibility of these efforts, these efforts we are
undertaking today depending on at least ceasefire from the beginning
of the serious negotiations from next step on. So I
would like to emphasize this aspect and would like to
see a ceasefire from the next meeting, which should be
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a triateral meeting wherever it takes place.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Well, we're going to let the president go over and
talk to the president and we'll see how that works out.
And if we can do that, I will say, and
again I say it. In the six wars that I've settled,
I haven't had a ceasefire. We just got into negotiations.
And the one of the wars was as you know,
and the Congo was thirty years thirty one years long.
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Another one that we settled last week with two great
countries was thirty five years going on and we had
no ceasefire. So if we can do the ceasefire, great,
and if we don't do a ceasefire, because many other
points were given to us, many many points were given
to us great points, is surege you go ahead?
Speaker 9 (08:02):
Well, thank you very much Donald, mister President for hosting
us today in this important meeting. And I think it
is an important day, a new phase after three years
and a half that we didn't see any kind of
sign from the Russian side that there was a willing
for dialogue. So something is changing. Something has changed thanks
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to you, thanks also to the starting in the battlefield,
which was achieved with the bravery of Ukrainians and with
the unity that we all provided to Ukraine. And the
reason why I mentioned it is that we also have
to remind that if we want to reach peace and
if we want to guarantee justice, we have to do
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it united. So that's why it's a very good day,
the one.
Speaker 8 (08:54):
We are in.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
You can obviously count to Italy as it was from
the beginning. We are on the side of Ukraine and
we do absolutely support your efforts towards peace. We will
talk about many important topics. The first one is security guarantees,
how to be sure that it won't happen again, which
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is the precondition of every kind of peace. I'm happy
that we will discuss about that. I'm happy that we
will begin from a proposal which is the let's say
Article five model, which was Italian at the beginning. So
we are always ready to bring our proposals for peace,
for dialogue. It's something we have to build together to
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guarantee peace and to defend the security of our nation.
So thank you mister President for hosting us.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Thank you very much, Emanuel.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Thank you mister President for organizing this meeting and for
your commitment and everything was said that I have to
I just have to say here, everybody around this table
is in favor of peace, and we work very hard,
and we've worked very hard during the past few years
to have a piece which is a robust and a
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long standing piece. This is why the idea of a
high lateral meeting is very important, because this is the
only way to fix it. And by the way, I
think as a follow up, who would need probably a
quadrilateral meeting Because when we speak about security guarantees, we
speak about the whole security of the European continents, and
this is why we are all united here with Ukraine
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on this matter. In order to organize such a high
lateral meeting, your idea to ask for a truce or
this is at least to stop the killings, as we discuss,
is a necessity and we all support this idea. And
in order to have such a long standing piece for
Ukraine and for the whole continent, we do need security guarantees.
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The first one is clearly a credible Ukrainian army for
the years and decades to come, and the second one
is our own commitments, all of us, and we worked
very hard during the past few months among the coalition
of the Winnings with the support of NATO to build
the different pillars of security guarantees and our commitments. And
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you can be sure that Europeans are very lucid about
the fact that they have their fairst year in these
security guarantees for Ukraine, but their own security is clearly
at stake in the situation. So you can contain us
as we can continue you in order to deliver this
obbest piece for both Ukraine and Europe.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Thank you very much, and mister primnas.
Speaker 10 (11:45):
Thank you very much, mister President, and thank you for
hosting us here. Can I start where a manual started,
which is we all want face The war in Ukrainers
had a huge impact, particularly on the Ukrainians imported the
prompt of it, but it's also had an impact on
Europe and on the United Kingdom. There's not a family
or community that hasn't been affected. And when we talk
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about security, we're talking about the security not just of Ukraine.
We're talking about the security of Europe and the United
Kingdom as well, which is why this is such an
important issue. Things is such an important meeting as a group.
I think we've had a discussion on the phone a
number of times since the President, but be able now
to be around the table to take it forward, and
I really feel that we can, I think, with the
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right approach this afternoon, make real progress, particularly on the
security guarantees. And your indication of security guarantees of some
sort of Article five style guarantees fits with what we've
been doing with the Coalition of the Willing, which we
started some months ago, bringing countries together and showing that
we were prepared to step up to the plate when
it came to security. With you coming alongside the US,
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alongside what we've already developed, I think we could take
a really important step forward today. A historic step actually
could come out of this meeting in terms of security
for Ukraine and security in Europe. I also feel that
we can make real progress towards a just and lasting outcome.
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Obviously that has to involve Ukraine, and a trilateral meeting
seems the sensible next step. So thank you for being
prepared to take that forward. Because I think if we
can ensure that that is the progress out of this meeting,
both security guarantees and some sort of progress on trilateral
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meeting of some sort to bring some of the difficult
issues to a head, then I think today we'll be
seen as a very important day in recent years in
relation to a conflict which has gone on for three
and a bit years, and so far nobody has been
able to bring it to this point.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
So I thank you for that well.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Thank you very much. And it's very interesting because this
is the first for the word house. You can't say
that very often. It's seen a lot over the years
since eighteen hundred and seventeen ninety nine, to be almost exact,
but this is the first one. We've had so many
prime minister's presidents, the heads of European nations. And by
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the way, Alex, I'd like you to say a couple
of words too. You're a young powerful man. Before I
finish up, I want you to say a couple of words.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Go ahead.
Speaker 11 (14:25):
I'll take the notion of youth back to my wife
and try to convince her. Thank you very much, mister President.
I think in the past two weeks we've probably had
more progress in ending this war than we have in
the past three and a half years. And I think
the fact that we're around this table today is very
much symbolic in the sense that it's Team Europe and
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Team United States helping Ukraine, and the progress that we're
looking out of this meeting is about the security guarantees,
which are a big part of the and then of
course moving towards a process with a trilateral meeting with
you and President Putin and President Zelenski. Some of the
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international media might wonder, you know, why is the president
of Finland here. I think the reason is probably that
we might come from a small country, but we have
a long border with Russia, over eight hundred Miles, and
we of course have our own historical experience with Russia
from World War Two, the Winter War and the War
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of Continuation. And if I look at the silver lining
of where we stand right now, we found a solution
in nineteen forty four, and I'm sure that we'll be
able to find a solution in twenty twenty five to
end Russia's war of aggression and find and get a
lasting and just peace. The situation is very difficult, but
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that's why we're here.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Thank you, Alex very much.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Good job.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
So we're going to be meeting for a while and
we're going to discuss some of the issues. And I
don't think there's any issue that's overly complex. It's at
a point now where people want to do things. I
really do believe. I've known them for a long time.
I've always had a great relationship with him. I think
at President Putin wants to find an answer to and
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we'll see and in a certain period of time, not
very far from now, a week or two weeks, we're
going to know whether or not we're going to solve
this or is this horrible fighting and to continue. We'll
do the best to get it ended and I believe
you have two willing parties, and usually that's good news.
But two willing parties that want to make a deal,
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and we'll journey together and we'll go over and we'll
see if it could be done, and it might. It's possible,
it might not be able to be done. On the
other hand, it's possible it will. I'm going to save
thousands and thousands of lives a week, and so it's
something we really have to do, or at least we
have to give it our best, so you can give
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it your best. But I think we may have a
very good outcome. So I want to thank you all,
and the media, I want to thank you. We're going
to be staying here for a little while. Then we're
going to walk over to the Oval office and we're
going to have another little discussion about similar matters, and
then they're going to go home to their great countries
and report, and I'm going to remain here and work,
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and you're going to go and work. We're all going
to be working. We may be in a different location,
but that's what we know how to do, is work.
But I want to thank the media has been actually
very fair, generally speaking, very fair I think it's important
that they're fair because this is it's a very important
it's a very important subject. We have to get it ended.
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And so that's all we ask for is fairness with
the media. Thank you all very much, appreciate it. Thank
you very much.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I got a question for each of you.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
It's almost President Lensky.
Speaker 12 (18:05):
You look fabulous in that suit.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I said, yeah, you look good.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
I said the same thing, yeah, I said, the one
that attacked your last time.
Speaker 12 (18:14):
I remember that.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
I apologize to you. Look you look wonderful.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
No, my first question for you President.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
In the same suit, I changed.
Speaker 13 (18:24):
You quickly upon peace, God will let me get peace.
Speaker 12 (18:30):
Are you open to holding an election in your country?
Speaker 14 (18:34):
Yes, of course we're open for an election.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yes, we have to do safety circumstances.
Speaker 12 (18:40):
And a little bit.
Speaker 14 (18:41):
We need to work in the parliament because during the
war you can't have elections, but we can.
Speaker 12 (18:47):
We can do security. We need maybe.
Speaker 14 (18:51):
How to say, we need a truth yes, everywhere in
the battlefield, in the sky and to see yeah, to
make possible for people to to do democratic, open, legal,
legal elections.
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Speaker 13 (20:03):
Well, what a busy, busy day it has been.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
As we continue, this is part two.
Speaker 13 (20:10):
I guess it began on Friday with a summit in
Alaska with.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Vladimir Putin and President Donald.
Speaker 13 (20:15):
Trump greeting him there to discuss ways to navigate an
end to the war in Ukraine that has been going
on since February twenty twenty two. Of course, you now
have Voladimir Zelenski, the President of Ukraine, along with several
European leaders on hand at.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
The White House.
Speaker 13 (20:35):
A huge collection of leaders as they're trying to knock
out the possibility of getting this done. They're trying to
hit not just a ceasefires, President Trump's put it, but
just peace, peace, no ceasefire because ceasefires get broken.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
He wants to bring it all to an end. A
lot going on and a lot to catch up with.
Thank you for being here today.
Speaker 13 (20:54):
Join me, our Lieutenant Colonel Alan West also joined me today,
Colonel Derek Harvey today discuss where this all goes.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Gentlemen, Thank you for being here. Pleasure, thanks gread to
be here.
Speaker 13 (21:07):
I greatly appreciate you guys being here. All right, so
let's begin with you, Colonel Harvey. Friday's gathering was quite
quite interesting. No deal came of, but I don't think
anybody really expected that. Of course, those on the left
chirp awating. Well, he didn't get a deal, and Vladimir
Putin was clearly in charge. I didn't see that. I
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don't think anybody saw that. I don't think any honest
person saw that. I think an honest person saw a
man who's trying to get peace between two countries that's
gone on for three and a half years and costs
one point five million people either their lives or their
mobility because they've been killed or wounded.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
It's time to stop the war. Colonel, what do you.
Speaker 17 (21:45):
Say, Well, I think you're right. The desire for peace
is apparent. The European leaders that met was the president.
Under the President's leadership, with President Zelenski there, we would
not have this day on this precipice of heading into
another maybe a trilateral agreement talks going forward here that's
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still to be seen. I think you have to get
mister Putin on board with it. But in that room
in the White House today, President Trump was in charge.
He has a vision to bring peace to this area.
He's putting all his cards into it. It seems to
me that a couple of things stood out. President Zelenski
is on board with moving to the next step. The
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discussion about security guarantees. What that will mean in detail
is something we're going to have to learn, but you
know it's going to be very problematic. Number two, the
question of territory is still a very difficult thing for
the Ukrainians to deal with, but it appears they're going
to have to seed some territory. And then you have
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to deal with mister Putin, who has had peace deals
before and then has come back and struck again. You know,
he took Crimea's invaded again in twenty one, He's gone
after Georgia. He's an expansionist person, and no one doubts
the type of character he is. You can't be trusted.
So we're on a pathway under President's leadership, and I
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think we're in a good place. There seems to be
unanimity about the direction the President is leading us to
try and get us over the goal line for a
peace deal.
Speaker 13 (23:24):
It would be nice, wouldn't it, You know, a Lieutenant
Colonel West, It's interesting to me that you know the numbers.
I was shocked when I realized the numbers of people
killed and wounded one point five million, give or take,
depending on who you trust, but that is more than
the number of people killing the European common nineteen thirty
nine nineteen forty in the first two years of World
War two. I mean, this is a terrible war, like
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Donald Trump said several times a day, And when I
heard him say five six, seven, eight thousand people a week,
sometimes being killed or wounded.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
This has gone nowhere.
Speaker 13 (23:58):
And I have said since in the early days of
this war that it would likely end with Russia having
complete control of Camea, which they already do, and potentially
control of some eastern portions of Ukraine, which looks likely
at this point. And so the question was asked today
by Peter Doucey, I believe, with Fox News, was are
you ready to redraw maps of Ukraine or do you
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want to do this for another couple of years. I'm
paraphrasing a little bit, but look, doing this for another
two years, another five hundred thousand million people killed and wounded,
to what end?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I say currently your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well, it's very interesting that you brought up the comparison
with the early start of World War Two, because if
we had had strong leadership, maybe Adolf Hitler would not
continue on. You know, when he said that he just
wanted to provide protection to the ethnic Germans there in
Sudatean Land, and everyone granted him that. The next thing,
you know, he had overrun Czechoslovakia and Poland. So I
think that when you look at the person that is
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sitting at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania. Now he's not a Neville Chamberlain,
he's not a Barack Obama, He's not a Joe Biden.
I think that was the whole purpose of Friday, was
for Vladimir Putin to see the seriousness and the gravity
of the situation in the eyes of President Trump. And
I think that's also why you saw those flyovers. But
right now what we have to look at is a
very precarious situation. You don't want to reward someone that
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you cannot trust. You talked about Vladimir Putin being expansionist.
He said that his greatest disappointment in the twentieth century
was the collapse of the Soviet Union. We know he
can't be trusting when we see what happened with Georgia.
And I think it was a great move to have
the President of Finland, Alexander krab there because Finland knows
this and me and knows exactly how you cannot trust
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them and what they are really looking after, saying with
the Baltic States of Latvia, lift the way in Estonia.
So I think it's important that these leaders go in
with a strong hand. The economic sanctions because China is
also looking at this as well. I think it was
a great thing that we signed the energy deal with
the European Union, so that we get Europe off of
the oil and gas that comes from Russia and they
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take it from us. That helps our economy, that helps them,
that undermines Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 13 (26:05):
Yeah, peace guarantees, that's part of the conversation here. But
Derek Harvey, I can only imagine what the Ukrainians would
think of that they gave up their nuclear weapons with
the guarantee of peace that Russia would respect their territory.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Clearly they have not, they did not, and they will not.
Speaker 13 (26:24):
So Look, I don't want to reward Vladimir Putin for
his illegal invasion of Ukraine February twenty twenty two. But
on the same token, I'm stuck in this position where
I've thought from early on that they were going to
have to be concessions, real estate concessions, and it looks
like that's true.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
But where do we go from that point of view.
Speaker 17 (26:43):
Well, if there are real estate concessions, you still have
the issue of the irredentism of Vladimir Putin and the
security guarantees what are they going to be. Are there's
going to be a trip wire of UK French forces?
Can the Ukrainians count on them? Maybe for the next
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two years, but maybe another government will not hold fast
with those commitments. You know, they were promised, you know
that they would have security if they gave up the
nuclear weapons that they had in the nineties. That didn't
hold either. So if you're in Kiev, you have to
have real doubts and you have to question what kind
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of guarantees are going to be strong enough and enduring
enough and sufficient enough to keep Russia at bay and
to satisfy the constituencies was in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, we've got to look at all of that.
Speaker 13 (27:42):
I mean, if you're a Ukrainian, why would you believe
anything the Russians say? And I think Lieutenant Coil the
Western point out that's why Finland an important person to
have at the table, an important country to have at
the table at the table, because they understand this as
well as anyone. I hold that thought right there, gentlemen
will take a quick break here.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'd like to say this is.
Speaker 13 (28:01):
The continued divide between Trump and the Federal Reserve, putting
us behind the curve again, can the FED take the
right action at the right time or are we going
to be looking at a potential economic slowdown?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
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Speaker 1 (29:01):
When we come back more with a ten of.
Speaker 13 (29:02):
Colonel Allen West and Colonel Derek Harvey as we continue
to break down the road to peace potentially stay right there,
all right, continuing on now, the road to piece is
going to be complicated.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I don't know how we get there. Let's review this
just for one moment.
Speaker 13 (29:25):
Here, Crimea taken during Barack Obama's tenure in the White House.
You've got several bases there now, Russian basis Sevestipool is
a naval base, Baklavah is a submarine base, and vard
Disc is a military airfield, all of which have been
improved and reinforced in the thirteen years Russia has been there.
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It's an importantly, it's an important strategic position on the
Black Sea.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
They're not going anywhere, that's for sure.
Speaker 13 (29:54):
I guess it would seem to me, and I want
to bring it back in Colonel Derek Harvey, the town,
Colonel Allen west A colonel, I'll start with you. It
seems to me that if you could get away with
allowing it just to be Crimea, that the Russians keeping
not the rest in the eastern part of Ukraine and
the don Bos and so forth, that would be a win.
I just don't know that that's possible. Look, I don't
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want to reward Vladimir Putin. But I don't see how
without some concessions of land and rewriting the boundaries and
the borders that we can get to peace here.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I just don't know that we can get there.
Speaker 17 (30:29):
Your thoughts, well, Pewtin already had Crimea when he went
into right eastern Ukraine, and so they want more. And
knowing Putin and the history there, he's very expansionist. So
when we look at Putin and his judgment about where
he's at in these negotiations, I don't think we know
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for sure how he reads the exhaustion of the Russian
economy and how much more they have to give into
this campaign and this conflict, and how much more sacrifice.
I think they've got a tremendous amount left to give
in this war, these strategic reserves, the size of their military, Yes,
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it's you know, strained them economically. They don't like being isolated.
There's a cost, but it's a vital interest in the
minds of the strategic leadership of Moscow. And they are irredentists.
So you know, I don't know that we have them,
you know, in a place where they're going to make
any real concessions. I think they're going to be maximalists.
Speaker 12 (31:35):
So there's that question.
Speaker 17 (31:36):
And I don't think that we can be assured that
we're going to get a deal. I think that there's
a strong possibility we're going to go down this path
for a while and that Putin will pull in and
you know, reject the overtures for some reason yet to
be determined.
Speaker 13 (31:56):
Yeah, let me point to a CNN pool, Colonel West,
because a CNN poll has basically shown a complete change
where the Ukrainian people were two years ago to compared
where they are now. About eighty percent now say they
want this war negotiated and ended. A couple of years ago,
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they wanted to fight till the death. Well, like Mike
Tyson used to say, everybody has a plan and to
get punched in the face. And let's be honest, like
it or not, Ukraine got punched in the face. There's
only so much fight left in them. The other thing,
but there's one thing here that really bothers me from
the left, and I got to get this in as well,
and that is, you know, our friends on the left
that wanted to keep dumping billions and billions of dollars
(32:38):
into Ukraine, with no return on investment, and who knows where.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That money ended up.
Speaker 13 (32:42):
A lot of it comes in. It was about democracy
at the defend democracy. This is the country that canceled elections.
They haven't been elections in Ukraine in how many years?
And not on the horizon he was. Zelenski was asked
about that day. Oh sure, I've hold elections. Well then
why didn't you? The United States never canceled an election
out in the world of eighteen Well, not in the
Civil War, not World War one, not World War two.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
We've never canceled elections in this country. We've been through
hell and back.
Speaker 13 (33:07):
So why does the left always talk about defending democracy.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I think it's a red hearing your thoughts, Well, you're
absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Anytime you are threatening the progressive socialist Marxists left, they're
going to tell you that you're a threat to democracy.
If you want to clean up crime in the streets
of Washington, DC, you're a threat to democracy. But I
think the most important thing that has to happen is
that somehow we have to convey the Bladimir Putin that
you really don't have the high ground. You don't have
the moral high ground, you don't have a strategic high
ground whatsoever. And an important message also needs to be
(33:37):
sent to Xijingping because you know that Putin's resources are
being exhausted when he has to go and get troops
from North Korea, and of course, without a doubt, they
are being supported and supplied by China. And when you
start to look at the trade and balance that we
have had with China and all of the surtplus, they
have a lot of that is going to.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
The building up of the Chinese navy.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
It's also going to sending funds for for Russia. And
then also we need to make sure that the pipeline
of drones and all these things are cut off from Iran.
So I think if all these nations can come together
and let Gladimir Putin know that you're not going to
get your way on this, and we're going to make
the decision and choice what strategically we say that you
(34:18):
can be retaining. And if you want to retain a
military presence down there in Crimea, well then guess what,
We're going to have that security presence for Ukraine because
you cannot be trusted because we know what happened in Georgia.
So I think it's really important that you break out
the old sunsu the art of war, not so much
the art of the deal, but and understand that you've
got to put your opposition, your adversary, in an untenable position,
(34:42):
and that's what we need to be maneuvering towards.
Speaker 17 (34:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (34:46):
Absolutely, Colonel Harvey, I'll give you the last word here.
We're optimistic here, but as Donald Trumps said, for a while,
it's complicated. It is complicated. It's going to be a
give and take. How do we there? How do we
make sure that we get there? And and I keep
hearing people like John Bolton Nicole Wallace taking cheap shots
(35:09):
of the president. Bolton keeps claiming we'll have American boots
on the ground.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I don't believe that at all.
Speaker 13 (35:14):
I don't think Donald Trump would ever send American soldiers
to find on the ground in Ukraine. It would have
to take some extraordinary circumstance for that to ever occur.
What are your final thoughts on this day is they're
behind closed doors.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
We hope for something good. It bring it home for me.
Speaker 17 (35:29):
Well, I don't think America first for the President would
ever want to put troops on the ground, even as
part of a security guarantee. But I think that's one
thing President Zelenski and the European leaders are hoping for
is you know, some tangible American commitment to troops and
you know facilities probably in Ukraine to support Ukrainian's security guarantees.
(35:51):
So I think that's that's a you know, a big
issue that's going to have to be you know, addressed.
I also, you know, I'm amazed all the time and
when I keep hearing about possible new sanctions, new initiatives
that we could take to pressure Moscow three and a
half years into the war. If we were serious, we
would have had secondary sanctions a couple three years ago.
(36:14):
We would have put more pressure on Moscow on their
trading partners in India and China, for example, and so
would the Europeans. So there's a lot left in the
tank that has not been applied economically and in other
matters culturally and elsewhere. But we haven't done it yet,
And so I have to ask how serious have we
(36:34):
actually been to really pressuring Moscow over these last three
and a half years.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Ye, Colonel wants to give you the last word here
as well.
Speaker 13 (36:45):
I would never expect Donald trying to put American boots
on the ground.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'll let you answer that question as well as we
take it home.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Well, you know, when I started out in the United
States military in nineteen eighty four, I was part of
an airborne battalion in Vichinza, Italy that was part of
the Allied Mobile Force Land Europe, and it was several
different airborne units from NATO European countries and we were
the rapid response for US. And so I don't want
to see US commit to having combat troops there. But
(37:16):
without a doubt, I believe that we can help as
far as some of the infrastructure repair. I believe that
we can help as far as intelligence things of that support.
But I think the biggest thing is you get business
investment back into Ukraine, and that puts Vladimir Putin into
a very bad situation if he wants to continue to
attack and all of a sudden the disrupt American business investment.
(37:37):
That's why I'm saying, we have to find that center
of gravity, We have to find that achilles heel that
we can exploit. But first and foremost, you gotta let
him know he does not own all of.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
The high ground.
Speaker 13 (37:48):
Exactly right. General, I greatly appreciate the insight. We'll see
what happens behind closed doors today. Of course, everybody watching
the world, watching any of the world leaders here, gentlemen,
thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Thanks and my state.
Speaker 13 (38:02):
Gentlemen, I don't go anywhere. America's Voice Live will continue
in just a moment, all right, So stockpiling the things
you need, while not recommended in many instances and sometimes required,
(38:23):
especially with medicine, you don't want to get caught short
and I do you trade relations as they are now,
It's important to consider all options when it comes to
having a study supply of critical medications amid Trent's tense
trading relations. Do you want not to discuss this as
the chief of disaster in emergency medicine at the Walness Company,
Doctor Kelly Victory, Doctor, nice to see you today. We
(38:45):
talked recently about all these pharmaceuticals being sourced in large
part in places like China. Well, President Trump, as you know,
recently announced that he was going to be giving big
tariffs on important prescription drugs in order to force manufacturers
to bring the goods back to the United States. How
important is it to have pharmaceuticals domestically sourced.
Speaker 12 (39:07):
Well, thanks for having me, Steve.
Speaker 18 (39:09):
Independent of how you feel about tariffs in general, it
is critically important that we bring pharmaceutical manufacturing back to
the United States. Our over reliance on China for prescription
medications or their active ingredients has been going on for decades,
and it really has been a tremendous national security risk.
(39:29):
All it would take is for the Chinese to cut
off our supply, jack up the prices exponentially, or in
some way contaminate those medications, and we would be in
tremendous tremendous risk. So anything we can do to bring
that manufacturing back to the US is important. That said,
it is not going to happen overnight, and that's why
(39:50):
we do anticipate it is certainly possible that there will
be both a short term increase in the price of
prescription medications as a result of the tear tariffs, and
also potentially shortages of certain medications, which is why, while
I don't like the word stockpiling per se, I.
Speaker 12 (40:08):
Do believe that it is wise.
Speaker 18 (40:10):
It's rational readiness if you will to have a supply
certainly of those medications that you take regularly your blood
pressure medication or diabetes medications, example, to have an additional
month or two on hand. Likewise, we suggest that families
have a kit, an emergency kit of some sort that
(40:31):
includes things like antibiotics, anti virals, medications for nausea and vomiting,
and common illnesses, so that you don't have your back
against the wall should these tariffs have an undue impact
on prices or availability.
Speaker 13 (40:48):
And the well is Company that you work for, we've
talked about this many times the past. They have these
which are the gold standard when it comes to a kit.
Just like you said, antibiotics, antivirals, anti parasitics, and a
lot more all in one kit that you can carry
with you. It's one of the many kits available at
the Wellness Company for all sorts of concerns and emergencies.
Speaker 18 (41:07):
Right absolutely, you can treate many many common infections and illnesses.
These are prescription medications. They are written and prescribed for you.
They also comes along with a very detailed guidebook to
help you understand how and when to use the different
medications in the kit. And you can also avail yourself
(41:28):
of a telemedicine visit with one of our physicians if
you have questions. Again, this isn't to spread fear or
fear mongering. It's what I call rational readiness. Have one
of these kits on hand for your family. We have
a broad range of kits, including first aid kits, a
field emergency kit that has more extensive supplies to treat
(41:49):
a host of.
Speaker 12 (41:50):
Illnesses as well as injuries.
Speaker 18 (41:53):
And it's a thing that you want to have on
hand before the time comes. You don't want to have
to run to an urgent care or god forbid, an
emergency department. And particularly if there is an impact on
the price of medications or their availability as a result
of these tariffs in the short term, it's wise to
have these on hand.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
It is wise.
Speaker 13 (42:17):
Don't be scared, be prepared. That's kind of the motto.
And look in my neighborhood. I see right aids go
out of business and CBS pharmacies go out of business.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I mean they're everywhere now, they're hard to find in
some places.
Speaker 13 (42:29):
So if you're concerned about how close the pharmacy is
and you have a hurricane, an earthquake, just a power
outage for a couple of days, which are more common
than they should be, I mean, you need.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
To be prepared. That's what this is all about, right.
Speaker 18 (42:42):
Absolutely, we're coming into National Preparedness Month in September. It's
a good time for everybody to think about their family
preparedness plan for both natural and man made disasters, and
certainly having medications on hand medical supplies on hand is
part of that preparedness plan. We make it very easy
(43:03):
with these pre prepared kits. As I said, you can
go to our website and see the broad range of them.
We've also steve been able to get a hold of
some things that were in short supply, like EpiPens to
use in the case of anaphylaxis or for a severe
allergic reaction.
Speaker 12 (43:21):
These can be life savings.
Speaker 18 (43:23):
They were very very difficult to get a hold of
and the prices had gone quite high. The Wellness Company
includes them in a number of our different kits, so
you can go on the website and look or speak
to one of our advisors to determine which is the
best kit for your use.
Speaker 13 (43:39):
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Speaker 1 (43:46):
There are subscriptions.
Speaker 13 (43:48):
There are the kits like we've talked about.
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Speaker 12 (44:05):
Thank you as always, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 13 (44:10):
Look, don't be scared, be prepared, get yourself a kid.
They even have travel kids and kids for kids too. Yeah,
I've got them right here. I'll take a break. What
makes America wonderful? We'll talk about that after the break.
And what is the America's Voice question today? Well, here
it is.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
What do you think Zelenski will do after this meeting?
We'll talk about it after the break. Well, what makes
(44:48):
America wonderful?
Speaker 13 (44:49):
We do it every day to make sure that you
leave the program with a smile on your face. So
today's story comes to us from Sioux Falls, South Dakota,
where a request for a small donation with snowballed into
some quite a bit bigger roxy company. A local pet
store in the area had reached out to their pet
food supplier, Nutra Source, in regard to providing a donation
of food to feed dogs in a local shelter.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Neutra source willing to play.
Speaker 13 (45:12):
Ball, except but when they saw the request ended with
too many animals, not enough fosters, not enough homes, and
not enough funds, things changed. Nutire Source called the owners
back to ask how much room they had a question
that would forewarn of the generous donation of over six
five hundred and forty one bags of dog food, weighing
in at thirty three thousand plus pounds and valued at
(45:34):
about one hundred thousand dollars, delivered to help feed rescue.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Dogs throughout the area.
Speaker 13 (45:39):
Banding together to help in a worthy cause is indicative
of what makes America wonderful. That's for sure. Feed the dogs.
That's what they did. Feed the dogs, all right? Question today,
do you think Zelenski will be willing to end the
war with Russians earlier?
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Today?
Speaker 13 (45:52):
They're behind closed doors right now here are some of
your answers. Ian Syon writes, know that means his money
will dry up. I think he probably stashed some way, don't.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
You, Bunny Late Know that Toddler will continue.
Speaker 13 (46:05):
To pitch a fit. We'll see Lenell Shaker, I highly
doubt it. He wants crimea back, doesn't he Linnell, he's
not getting it. I'm just gonna put it out there
for you. Peggy Mitchell a definitive. No, President Trump is prepared.
Jack Hubert writes this, No, he just wants more funds.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
See a lot of me.
Speaker 13 (46:23):
You think he's just in it for the money. Brian Poyer, No,
he wants an endless war. Linda Shiffle bind No, European
leaders want more money from Earth minerals for payment. War
is where the money is made. Too true and too said.
Tracy Rodgers has this Nope, he's in it for the money.
(46:43):
He can care less about his country or the people
in it. And one more here from Sam Fools. No,
he knows when the war's over. He's out of power
and the money trained.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
End's boy. A lot of you are just cynical, but
so am I.
Speaker 13 (46:58):
Rumors circulating that he in his circle are buying property,
fancy properties in places like Miami, in London.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
You know how long could they be.
Speaker 13 (47:07):
We'll find out when those doors come open, what progress
we might have made. We'll find out and share it
with you beginning tomorrow morning, right here on Real America's
Voice with the Steve Rivers Show. Be sure to follow
me on social media so that you can get into
the question of the day. I'll see you tomorrow morning,
and then back here for America's Voice Live