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It is Friday, the seventeenth of October. It's the Year
of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. Let's get to the
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The United States Marine Corps is gearing up for its
two hundred and fifty years of libration of that military branch.
The celebration will include military weapons demonstration as well as
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a keynote address from former Marine and current Vice President JD.
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I'll bring on Amanda headgivers live updates from the ground.
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Also Moms for Liberty.
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Holding their twenty twenty five Joyful Warriors National Summit today
and tomorrow. You can catch live coverage here on re
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The ground for their live perspectives. You don't want to
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And then later I'll discuss the lack of new housing
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up production while making sure things are up to code.
All that coming your way, But first I want to
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start with John Bolton. John Bolton, the former National Security advisor,
indicted Thursday eighteen counts under the Espionage Act after he
was accused of sending classified information to his wife and daughter,
and keeping more than a thousand pages of classified information
and documents that he was not entitled to he had
in his possession.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He apparently wanted to use.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Those documents for his own personal ambitions and well maybe more.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We're not sure.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
This is very serious and those on the left can
scream all they want, but my bet is clear. John
Bolton's going to prison for breaking the law that protects
our nation's national security. Here's what was said, by the
way in the Oval Office when Donald Trump heard the.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
News it was just indicted by a Branduria Maryland GiB
A reaction.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
To that, I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
You told me for the first time. But I think he's,
you know, a bad person. I think he's.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
A bad guy. Yeah, he's a bad guy, too bad.
But it's the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, that's the way it goes. John Bolton pleaded not
guilty earlier today. But we will see what the evidence
says and what the courts decide.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Big trial ahead.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Joining me now to discuss a senior legal fellow at
the Heritage Foundation, Zach Smith.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Zach, thank you for being here today.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
As we discussed just before the program, this is serious.
They can claim that he was targeted, they can claim
that it's a weaponized DOJ, they can claim whatever they want,
But eighteen counts in the twenty six page indictment.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
What it is for sure? It's serious, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, it absolutely is serious, not only for John Bolton,
but also for our national security as well. Keep in mind,
some of the allegations in the indictment alleged that John
Bolton's personal email accounts that he used to transmit this
classified information were actually hacked, potentially by the Iranian government
who then tried to blackmail John Bolton as a result
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of that hack. So this has very serious implications. These
are very sensitive documents that John Bolton had access to
because of his role as the National Security Advisor, and
so to see him retaining a lot of that information
at his home, to see him sending that information across
the Internet using uns cured, unclassified email systems like a
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Well and Google, as the indictment alleges, these are very
serious allegations. Now, John Bolton, like any other criminal defendant,
is innocent until are unless proven guilty. But these are
very serious allegations, and I suspect John Bolton is going
to have a very difficult time explaining his conduct if
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he chooses to take the stay in.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, Zach, here's the thing that I think struck me
and a lot of other Americans watching John Bolton ever
since he left the White House after he was dismissed
by the President, his arrogance, his sheer hubris of well
he knew better, and Donald Trump was this, and Donald
Trump was that. Well, Donald Trump wasn't emailing classified information
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to his daughter.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Or to his wife or others. We know that.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
And the raid on mari A Lago proved to be
a whole lot of hubbub about not much at all,
I mean, rating Milania's underwear, or I don't think proved
much about national security. And the difference between Donald Trump
and John Bolton. As don Trump actually had the right
to have the documents he had in his possession, and
he had the right to declassify the documents he had
in his possession, John Bolton can claim none of that.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, that's exactly right. Donald Trump, as president had the
authority to declassify documents. It was up to his discretion.
John Bolton was not the president, and so he did
not have that same authority and in fact, the indictment
lays out in some link when John Bolton's right to
access that information expired when he lost the legal ability
to have that information at his home. But it certainly
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is clear that John Bolton had a lot of that
information still in his possession and was still using it
and disseminating it after he left his role as the
National Security Advisor. Now, one of the problems in particular
I think John Bolton may have created for himself is
his frequent commentary on others who have potentially used unclassified
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or civilian information systems to exchange information. He talked extensively
about Hillarry Clinton when she is a ledge to have
done that. He's talked about others using signal and other
communication apps to exchange information, has been very critical of
those practices. And so from just a pragmatic standpoint, I
think John Bolton may have a very difficult time in
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being able to take the stand defend his actions, because
if he were to do so, I think any prosecutor
worth his or her sault would immediately use those past
statements that John Bolton has made against him in any
trial should he choose to go to trial.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Now here's the thing more than a thousand pages. What
would he use those for to write a book for
his own benefit? Would he share with us? Could he
sell that? I mean, is this information that could compromise
the national security of the United States? That's what I
want to know, Zach. You've read the twenty six pages.
Any indication there.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Well, I say that, certainly the fear anytime classified information
is disseminated or retained outside of proper channels. The exact
high I mean of when this information was distributed all
of that is not crystal clear from the indictment. It
certainly appears like he was transmitting some of this information
while he was still the National Security Advisor, in almost
real time. Essentially, what the indictment alleges is that John
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Bolton would take extensive notes on legal pads during his
time as National Security Advisor. He would then go and
type up those notes and transmit those notes, which he
called his diary, to individuals that are not named in
the indictment. They're referred to as Individual one and Individual two.
Now media reports that those individuals that are not named
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in the indictment are actually his family members, his wife
and his daughter, who he said were functioning as his editors.
So it seems obvious that John Bolton from the get go,
as his time as National Security Advisor, was planning to
write a memoir or a book about his time in
the Trump administration. And it certainly seems like these diaries,
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these notes, that head that he didn't transmitted using personal
email accounts, that these were all part of his plans
to eventually write a book.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
All right, So here's the question, Zach, you worked there,
You know, when it comes to intelligence like this, is
there a problem with the voluminous amount of classified information
flying around in various classifications, you know, top secret, classified
for your eyes only, whatever it may be. Look, Joe
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Biden had documents he wasn't supposed to have. Mike Pence
had documents he wasn't supposed to have. John Bolden seems
like a much more serious case. But do we have
a problem in Washington with too much classified information just
flying around?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yes? Absolutely, I think anyone will tell you that. For
too long, there's been a sense that those at the
very top of our government are not taking their responsibilities
to safeguard and secure classified information seriously. Now I suspect
because of Joe Biden Mike Pence, others that you mentioned.
John Bolton and his lawyers may try to make some
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type of selective prosecution claim. But again, I think one
of the problems that John Bolton may have created for
himself is that he has been very critical of those
other decisions not to prosecute others who have not maintained
their own responsibility to safely and securely handle classified information.
But again, I think the indictment itself alleges why this
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lack of seriousness, why this use of improper channels is
so devastating. One of the allegations in the indictment is
that Iranian officials or someone in Iran hack John Bolton's
email accounts, got access to this information and then was
trying to use it to blackmail him in the process.
Those are very serious allegations. It shows the threat that
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this type of lacks protocols poses, and so I think
it is why we are right to have a very
serious conversation about why so many officials at the top
of our government are not taking their responsibilities seriously.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, and here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Obviously, these are printed documents, these are pages right that
they have stacks of apparently, and then you've got the
text messages, the emails.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
The electronic communication. Then you've got AI out.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
There hunting and looking all the time. Look, AI spyware
is out there, foreign governments using it all the time
to find weaknesses, to find a chink in the armor,
to find a sneaky way to get in the back door.
All of these are happening simultaneously. What can we do
to defend ourselves?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
What can we do in America, Zach, to make our
national secrets and our national security frankly more secure.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Well, look, I think we have to start with holding
those who do not fulfill their responsibilities accountable. There are
systems and procedures and processes in place to make sure
that classified information is retained in as safe and secure
in an environment as possible. But again, in the many
examples you just mentioned, that has not been the case.
There for too long has been a lack of time
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consequences when officials have not followed proper protocols, and so
I think in John Bolton's case, these allegations are very serious,
and we're seeing an attempt to make sure that the
rules and procedures that are very vigorously applied against low
level government officials who have security ad clearances access to
this information, that those same rules and consequences are applied
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when people in the very high levels of our government
do not follow those same rules and regulations as well.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
All right, So the one question I have not asked
as we bring this full circle, what is the penalty
eighteen counts serious counts under the Espionage Act?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
This is not This is not something simple.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
This is something very detrimental to his future, to his freedom.
If he was convicted, even on a couple of these charges,
what would it mean.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, each count carries up to ten years in federal prison.
Part of the indictment is they're asking for forfeiture of
certain proceeds he may have received from his book and
other profits as a result of retaining and disseminating this
classified information. So John Bolton has a lot of legal
exposure here. Now what's interesting. In a prior civil suit
related to his book, the judge in that case was
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very critical of John Bolton. He noted that he may
have created both civil and criminal exposure for himself by
the way he chose to move forward with publishing his memoirs.
And so I think we're seeing a lot of those
warnings really coming home to roost with this indictment.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, you know, and it's just the hubris And I
look at people like John Brennan and James Clapper and
others who have just been so cavalier about their behavior
in so many places in John Bolton and you look
at James Comey, and the list goes on. The cavalier,
arrogant attitude. Well, you know, sometimes it'll come back around
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and get you. Zachly, appreciate you being here, thank you
for your expertise today.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Of course, thanks for having me on the show.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Absolutely, we'll keep an eye ten years per I mean
that's a life sentence if you had jammed up all right.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Coming up after the break.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
The Marine Corps will celebrate two hundred and fifty years
tomorrow at Pendleton in San Diego. Yeah, Camp Pendleton, California,
complete with weapon demonstrations.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We always like that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I'll bring on the co host of Just the News,
Don't always, My good friend Amanda Head joining me next
on America's Voice Line.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Here.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
This a couple of weeks ago, I had the good
fortune to go to the East Coast and see the
United States Navy celebrate two hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It was a remarkable display.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You got to stand on an aircraft carrier see incredible
demonstrations of American power.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
It's all inspiring. Here.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Just recently, not too far from my house, they brought
in twenty one brand new F fifteen EX two's. I
think they're called fighter jets, And there's just something about watching,
you know, fighter jets for the United States Air Force
or the Marines, the Navy come soaring over your head.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It just gives me this swelling of pride.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And this Saturday, the United States Marine Corps they'll take
their turn in the sun, celebrating two hundred and fifty years.
The event will hold military weapons demonstrations always a good time,
as well as an address by a former US Marine
he's not your Vice President, j dve Hans. We'll give
you all the live action right here in Real America's
Voice tomorrow with coverage starting at New and Eastern and
lasting until eight o'clock fmorrow. And by the way, I'll
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be there with you for a good portion that so
you'll see me then, Jeman. Now, though a woman from
who lives in California, Carthy To discussed this, the co
host of just the news, no noise. Amanda Head, who
has a chance to stand in an absolutely perfect day.
She's got the shades on, she's got a smile on
her face because it's a cool event.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Amanda. Nice to see you.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Great to see you, Steve, And I'm with you on
the flyover. I really hope I got to send a
message to the control room to not do a split
screen during the flyover with me on half of the screen,
because if history has shown anything, it's that I will
cry every time. So I am so excited to be here.
And they could not have ordered better weather if they
had not ordered it straight from God.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's like mid.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Seventies, a very light breeze, not a cloud in the sky.
We of course, are right on the Pacific Ocean. Camp
Pendleton is nestled above San Diego, near ocean side, California,
and it's just a beautiful facility. And let me tell
you the raw power that is displayed here already. I
mean we're still twenty four hours out from the actual event,
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but will I will use this opportunity to remind everybody
November tenth is actually the official birthday, but you know,
having this celebration during the summer fall. You know, here
in LA and here in southern California, summer extends basically
until October. So it's just magnificent. Cannot wait to share
with you all the things that are going to be
happening tomorrow. But it is bustling around here. As you
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can see the production behind me. They are doing a
great job of setting up this stage. I would say
it's on par with some of President Trump's biggest campaign
rallies last year. They've got, obviously this huge stage set
up here, They've got grand stands behind, They've got grand
stands behind the camera that you can't see, and if
video screens everywhere, it's just going to be absolutely it's
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perfectly fitting for the United States Marine Corps.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I will say that, because they deserve it.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You know, when we did the US Army Parade, I
was there for as well on the ground, and there
were critics who said, well, why would we do this?
America doesn't do this. Yes, we do on occasion. We
don't do the May Day parades like they do in
Russia and so forth.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
But this is different.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
This is a celebration of who we are as a country.
Two hundred and fifty years on. This is the Army,
the Navy, the Marines. It's a different thing, and man,
it just feels good. When I was there for the
Navy event, I felt like a twelve year old. I'm
just looking at all these incredible machines and all this
incredible powers you put in, Amanda. It is on inspiring,
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isn't it.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
It absolutely is. And you know, for the naysayers what
this is about, and the Army two fifty was the
same way. It is about in a this beautiful dichotomy
between innovation and tradition. And you see each of our
Armed services branches that are innovating in ways that other
countries envy, and at the same time they are still
rude and they are still anchored in tradition. Here simper fidelus,
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you know, always faithful, those types of traditions that bond
the men and women who who are who are a
part of the United States Marine Corps. It is about
showing our lethality, showing our preparedness, our defenses.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's what it's about.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
It's not about flexing muscles and trying to do something
that appears communistic, you know, evocative of Soviet era Russia.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's not what this is about.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
It is about showcasing what we have to offer, what
we used to protect the homeland. And at the end
of the day, as as Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth said,
we don't love war. We love our country. We want
to keep our country safe, and that's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You mentioned Pete Hegseth that was going to bring him up.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm glad you did, Amanda, because look when I saw
him walk out in front of all those sailors, they
went wild. When he is around the men and women
serving in the military, whether it's the Army, of the Navy,
of the Marines, they like him a lot. They embrace him.
So the critics, you know, oh, Pete heex has not
qualified this that they respect him because he's been a
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soldier on the ground.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Do you get the same impression. Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
I mean you look at the reception that he gets
any time anytime Steve, whether it is a stateside or
whether it's abroad, anytime he is around troops from any
branch of the military, he gets rousing applause. And it
is because he has been there. He's been in the barracks,
he's done the you know, the basic training. He has
done all of that that has put him in a
position to not only know what it takes to lead
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people at the Pentagon, the three and four star generals,
to lead what frankly, I would argue is more of
a bureaucracy than anything than anything else. But he has
the ability to not only lead there at the Pentagon,
but to also be someone who these troops look up
to and admire and revere.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And that's important. It's important to have both.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Of those strengths in someone who is ultimately going to
leading this country in its preparedness against our adversaries.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
There you go, a man a head live from Camp
Pendleton in California. Beautiful place, Amanda, Thank you as always.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
We'll see you tomorrow, See you tomorrow. Thanks Steve. All Right,
So tune into Real America's Voice.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It's Saturday tomorrow noon until eight o'clock at night, special
coverage of all the events happening with the Marines from
sea to shore, from live weapons demonstrations, that address by
Vice President Ja d Vance form a Marinums.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So if you don't want to miss any of it,
you want to be right here.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I'll be here, Amanda will be here and the entire
RAV team and Steve Bannon in the morning by the
way as well, So you don't want to miss any
coverage coming up tomorrow, set your DVR if you can't
be there in person, you want to watch it at
some point. All right after the break, another big event
bombs for Liberty hosting their two twenty five Joyful Warriors
National Summit, happening right now in Orlando, Florida. Coverage will
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be held today and tomorrow. The into coverage of that
Marine two to fifty celebration, I'll bring on an expert
who's currently on location to discuss some of the ongoing
issues within education straight ahead on America's Voice Line. Well,
Virginia Democrats were seeing a lot of backlash over a
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sexual predator case that made national news out of the
state chose not to prosecute a known sex offender. Transgender
individual Richard Kenneth Cox is fifty eight years old, good
looking fella there he is. Cox allegedly lied about his
identity to enter a Virginia public school pool and the
shower area after hours, where he exposed himself to young.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
High school girls.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Democrats chowse to defend the transgender community instead of the children,
prioritizing identity politics over the safety of minor girls. Cox
also sent threatening emails to the school system just before
the election, stating he would not vote for and would
encourage others in the transgender community not to vote for
candidates who did not support their transgenderism. Here to discuss
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Paul Runko, Senior director of Strategic Initiatives for Defending Education,
who is currently in Orlando, Florida, the Mom's for Liberty
Joyful Warriors National Summit.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Paul, Welcome to the program. Thanks for having Steve.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
You know, I would I would feel better obviously if
this were an isolated incident, but it's not. This is
not an isolated and so we see more and more
of this, and you wonder how many we don't hear about.
This is a problem adult men posing as women being
granted access to locker rooms, restrooms, shower areas. It's insane
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and frankly, I think it's immral. What do you say, Well.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
As you mentioned, I'm here at the Monstere Liberty Summit
twenty twenty five and this is a big discussion here
right this transgender issue, particularly in schools K twelve schools
and our own polling, depending education my organization, our own
polling shows this is an eighty twenty issue. Parents across
the political spectrum, whether you're a Republican, Democrat, independent, believed
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that girls should have their own spaces and that men
should not be allowed in girls' restrooms, girls' locker rooms,
and their private spaces in schools. So we really need
to start getting back to what we believed years ago
when we had these policies in place, and not these
policies that you just mentioned gave this man access to
the Aquatic Centre locker rooms where.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You know, these alleged heinous acts took place.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, we are seeing you know, I saw a graph
here just yesterday. It showed this idea and the people
that identify as transgen it really started to spike twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one. Here, peaked in twenty twenty three, and
now it's coming down fast because people are like, wait
a second, stop it. And let's be clear about this.
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It was promoted. It was propaganda. People got lost on
YouTube and TikTok and now places told this is if
you don't feel quite, you might not be in the
right body, and all this other nonsense. It was propaganda
and advertising that drove this insanity. Thankfully, there's a lot
of pushback from you and organizations like Moms for Liberty.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
How much more work do we have to do though,
to get those thing completely under control. Well, there's a
lot of work to be done.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
But parents got a really amazing decision from the Supreme
Court this year in my Mood versus Taylor, where the
Supreme Court reaffirmed parents' rights to opt their children out
of some of these LGBTQ plus books and curriculums in school.
And so parents really have this amazing tool now to
go to their schools and say, I know that this
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transgender ideology starts right here in kindergarten, but my child
isn't going to be a part of it. And so
my organization and organizations like Moms for Liberty is encouraging
parents you can opt out, and you should opt out.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
So let me ask you this, Paul, how old are
you in my mid thirties?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
All right, so you went to high school, you've been
out for a few years. How many transgender kids did
you go to high school with?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
None?
Speaker 8 (24:13):
And to your point, this was not and even you
know the fifteen years ago when I was in.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
School, right, that's my point.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
There were none when I went to school, none when
my wife went to school, none when you went to school.
So it is a fairly recent phenomenon again, and my
estimation driven by propaganda and people praying on impressionable young people.
We have got to stop the sexualization of children period.
There seems to be this strange obsession with it. I
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think you would agree with that.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
We need to scale that back, and we need to
fight at every step of the way, don't we.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Absolutely, And unfortunately the four years of the Biden administration
really perpetuated this. As your viewers probably remember, the Biden
administration tried to change Title nine to replace sex with
gender identity, and organizations like mine, organizations like Monster Liberty
sued to stop the Biden administration from doing this, and luckily,
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the Trump Title nine rule is now in effect, and
so we've seen his administration take states like California and
Maine to court over this and trying to keep men
out of girls' bathrooms, off of women's sports teams, and
prevent students from being disciplined when they feel they can't
affirm someone's supposed gender identity right.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Some states, however, still fighting defying the executive order. I
don't know where that leads, but probably they're going to lose.
It's gonna be a big event their moms for liberty.
I'm glad you're there, Paul. It's an important conversation for
the folks there as well. And we'll have coverage here
on Real America's Voice. Thank you for taking time to
talk with us today.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I can catch all the live coverage, like I said,
right here on Real America's Voice today and tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
It will lead into the at Marines two.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Fifty celebration that's tomorrow. So it's all good news. Boy,
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Do it today. Coming up after the break, I'll discuss
the lack of new housing construction and how slow approval
processes are creating problems in the building industry.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
More on that coming up on abl.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, the rising population over the years has seen its
fair share of challenges, but without doubt, one of the
biggest ones has to do with housing. We have a
home crunch in this country.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Is we all know any architectural project has to go
through various approval processes, and things get stickier and stricter
the farther you go, especially when federal funds and are involved,
or any government funds for that matter, and then slow
down an approval could be the cause of not having
enough homes right now, invoking one to think about how
American and the legislature can hasten approval and ramp up
production while making sure things are up to code.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
We've got to do all the things right, but we
got to do it faster. Join me to discuss this.
The senior director of Government Affairs for the National Taxpayers Union,
Tommy Ilo. Tommy, nice to see on a Friday.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Listen, we need more houses in America and we've got
to get rid of the red tape. We need more
ribbon cuttings for new houses and less red tape to
cut through to get there.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
What would you say to that that.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Has a great ring to it. Look, there's nothing more
fundamental to people than having a place to live. Whether
you're a renter or you're a homeowner, or you want
to buy a home, it's just way too expensive. Look,
we have mortgage rates coming down. It's a great thing
for people that want to refinance or purchase a new home.
But we need to do more. The President of the
United States, he's a builder. He understands the importance of
having more housing, and we need the Congress and the
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administration to book more pressure on these local governments to
speed up.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The process to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Look, cutting red tape has been a cornerstone of this administration.
For every new rule, you had to get rid of
a bunch of other rules to get there. Why the
slow and Look, I want to make sure the plumbing
is right, the electricals right, the roof is right.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
We want to make sure that building codes are followed.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But there's got to be a way to expedite the
process because it is slow. I'm in the process of
redoing a house now that was involved with a fire,
and just getting through the codes is half the challenge.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
We've got to do better.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yeah, it's a real problem. There's only so much the
federal government can do in this space. But the way
we look at it is local governments. They put up
all these barriers. Right Los Angeles, for example, they require
parking minimums just for single family homes. They require the
twenty percent of all parking underground parking lots have to
have EV chargers. In New York City, if you build
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over one hundred stories, you're hit with all these extra
compliance costs. So people are building up to ninety nine
floors instead of that extra floor or more. So it's
a real problem. There's a really good bill introduced by
Congressman Mike Flood of Nebraska. He's a great conservative champion
for housing. It's a bipartisan bill. It says if local
governments want federal funds for housing, they need to show
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how they're reducing barriers to building. It's a great bill.
We're proud to support it and hopefully it gets passed
by the United States Congress.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Well there you have it, Tommy.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Look, we've got to do better when you look at
places like I mentioned the fire that I have, but
Pacific Palisades, Malibo, they haven't built anything.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I didn't think they've cleaned much up so far.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Because of what regulations in California, which are probably worse
than just about anywhere else. But here they are with
what eighty thousand structures lost in those fires earlier this year.
We have got to be able to do so much better.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Yeah, it's a real problem. It's really a tale of
two parts of the country. You have these blue states
that put all these barriers up to building or rebuilding
after fires. Texas for example, right, everyone's flocking to Texas.
They're actually increasing their housing stock exponentially, Austin, Texas, which
a lot of young people from California are moving to.
Home price is there rental prices specifically down eighteen percent?
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We need to look to these red states Texas, Florida
and Tennessee. What are they doing. They're letting builders build,
it's helping consumers, lowering home prices. They should be the model.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
For the country. Yeah, So how do we get there?
I mean, we can't.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Seem to agree on much of anything, not in state houses,
not on the federal level.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Is there something that Donald Trump can do?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Is there's something that people can do at the state
level to acptite and without cutting corners, And that's an
important part.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Again.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
We want the plumbing right, we want the roof right.
We want the electrical systems right. What can be done?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I think the President ken and should with his administration,
put pressure on these local governments to change some of
these ridiculously silly laws. In San Francisco, you can't build
over a certain height because it might block cloud coverage
in some neighborhoods. It's little things like that. That's what
we're talking about, not making you know, we're not changing
the laws, so we're cutting corners to what you said
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and putting people's safety in jeopardy. It's these silly laws
like parking minimums, land sizes, height restrictions. That's what we
should be doing to put pressure on these governments to change.
And that's what Congressman Floods legislation would do.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
But what the.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
President can do is he can free up some federal lands,
especially in the West like Idaho or California, where these
all these pressures to increase that area where you can
build housing. That's where they can really do the most
amount of effectiveness. And I hope that's where they'll look.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, and demand is there.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I just saw the number of new home sales increase
twenty percent last But the demand is there. If the
houses were available, and if we can get interest rates
down another half a point or a full point, it
could really stimulate the purchase of homes new and used
in this country.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
We really need to make some strides there as well.
I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yeah, you know, people are still buying homes. Mortgage rates
coming down is going to make homes even more affordable
for people to buy. And look President's working class tax cuts,
it's going to those taxes are going to help developers build,
build more housing, lower the prices. It doesn't get much
more simple than that. Supply and demand.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You got that right, Tommy, Have a happy Friday. Thank
you for being here.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Thanks Steve.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
All Right, before we.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
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Speaker 1 (34:34):
All right, there's one beautiful aircraft, air Force one sitting
at Joint Base Andrews, waiting for the President of United
States's gonna be on his way to marl Lago. Hasn't
been there for a while. It doesn't go in the summers,
you know, not very often anyway. But he's going today
apparently going to spend the weekend. I'm going to guess
the man I play some golf. I'm going to take
the over on that on the over under all right.
(34:56):
Democratic Governor for New Jersey Phil Murphy has been called
out by his state for failing to address the rising
surge and electricity prices, specifically for middle class families who.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Are getting squeezed and squeezed hard. President Trump has always
been a proponent of America's energy independence. We talked about
here this week extensively, and to.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Further add to that, many suggest breaking away from utility
monopolies to stop such brazen price increases might be a
brilliant idea I would agree with that. Join me to
discuss is the Chairman of Americans for Energy Dominance, Sam Romain. Sam,
thank you for being here, and I want to start
with this monopoly idea.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I live in Michigan, as people know.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
And there are two major electric companies in the state
DT and Consumers, and basically that covers more than ninety
percent of the people. And every year it seems they
go to the legislature, Hey we need to raise our prices,
Hey we need to raise And every time there's a
rate increase, they're like, hey, look, these these monopolies are
getting rich.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
They're not going broke. I can tell you that, Sam.
What do you think?
Speaker 9 (35:59):
Yeah, well, first, well thanks for having me on again.
I really appreciate your show. But going to the rate increase,
I want to share some news with you. Fresh out
of California, PG and E just gave themselves high praise today.
For the first time in a decade, they decided not
to raise the rates double digits. What a fascinating concept
to be proud about.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
But you're right.
Speaker 9 (36:17):
You don't have choice in this country about your utility
company in most cases.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Except for Texas.
Speaker 9 (36:22):
And that's because we have it's called a regulated monopoly
market for these utility companies. And the reason they love
to spend money is because they get a guaranteed return
on equity. The more money they spend, the more money
they get.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
To charge you.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
And even more fascinating, they can even roll in their
lobbying cost into their rate case.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
That's exactly right, and they can use that money for
political purposes as well, which they do. Let me ask
you about this here where I live, and I don't
know if this is true in all states, but you're
the expert. If you put solar panels on your roof,
thinking you know what I'm going to do, the green
energy thing. I'm going to have this house itself sufficient
where I live. You don't even own that electricity. It
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goes into the system. It's still controlled by the two monopolies.
You might get a discount, but any extra electricity that
goes into the system, that's theirs. It's a strange it's
a strange arrangement, to say the least.
Speaker 9 (37:16):
Yeah, so solar is an interesting thing. In many states,
you have this agreement called net metering, where the energy
that you're sending off to the grid you get compensated for,
usually to offset your own usage. But some states that
are going even further, mostly in blue states, and saying actually,
when you send me power, I'm just going to keep
it and I'll sell it to your neighbor at exactly
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do nothing.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (37:39):
Now you do have states like Texas and Florida who
actually do have a favorable net metering. You know what's
really funny you bring up the green energy thing. I
don't think it's about green energy. I think it's bout
energy independence. But red states do it better. That's the
best part.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, red states do it better.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Look what we need in this country, we need more
nuclear that's for sure. We need to stop taking functional
coal fired power plants that still have twenty five or
thirty or forty years in their lifespan, stop taking those offline,
and don't do what they did in Europe, which.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Is just bulldoze of things.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Now the Netherlands providing power to the whole big chunks
of Europe because other countries got rid of their power plants,
while China.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Is building ones that they're just putting over there for
future reference, not even using.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Them, building brand new coal fired power plants to say, hey,
we might need that in the future. Just build it
and we'll wait till we need it. It's a totally
different approach, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Well, And the thing about it is that what we
need to realize in this country is that electrons energy
are not red, blue, green, purple whatever. At the end
of the day, what we need to do is enable
the free market to choose the winner rather than propping
up and having government pick winners and losers. And if that's.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Coal, so be it.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
If that's nuclear grade, if that's solar, wonderful.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 9 (38:55):
The free market has a really good track record of
picking the winners and losers. Usually nuclear's gonna win out
on for base load power, absolutely, but it doesn't necessarily
make solar bad. What it does make, in my opinion
is solar farm has become really bad. Clear Cutting farmland
and forest land for solar panels usually isn't the winner
in the free market economics. But when you start talking
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about self generation on your home, it does have a space.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
To compete, right well, it should.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
And again the Blue States basically stealing the energy you
create for the solar panels you paid for. It's the
strangest setup I've ever seen. So we need more energy.
Donald Trump is working that way. Chris Wright, I think
it was doing a great job as a Secretary of
Energy in this country, finding new ways to create energy,
being friendly to coal states like West Virginia and Wyoming.
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These are all steps forward. But it's just a good start.
I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
Yeah, and it's a good start, but a lot of this.
Let's go back to New Jersey, just real quick to
finish off. What's happened in New Jersey is a political issue.
You have good bills that are in front of the
state that they're not doing anything with. You have Governor
Phil Murphy, who they have passed the legislatures passed a
bill to cut red tape on permitting. He's sitting on it,
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automated permitting moving from three months to almost twenty four hours.
He won't even sign it. You also, back in twenty eighteen,
had legislature passed one of the most innovative battery programs
to do virtual power plants. Still hasn't been enacted. Now
you look at Texas, they did the same thing. They
did it in nine months and profitably. And so this
comes down to a political capital, political will, and most
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Blue states don't have the gumption to get it done.
They want to play the favoritism game.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
New Jersey, We're counting on you do something smart. I'll
act the Republican governor be a step in the right direction. Sam,
thanks for being here, appreciate your time. Thank you so much.
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Go anywhere, because after the break, American Voice Live will continue.
We'll have more for you, all right, Earlier in the program,
I brought you Paul Runko from Orlando, Florida, an event
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by Moms for Liberty called the Joyful Warriors National Summit.
Real America's Voice correspondent Bo Davison also at the event.
He joined me on to discuss what's coming up.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Bo.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Nice to see you. Glad you having a good Friday.
So tell me about the event. It's going to be
covered here extensively on Real America's Voice. What can we expect?
Speaker 10 (42:45):
Yeah, Steve revs imprint is all over this event, and
you know, Moms for Liberty. Steve was started in twenty
twenty one by two moms who were school board members.
And we think about back to twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
what was going on, what were people paying attention to
or not paying attention to? And since that time they've
started this organization very very grassroots to empower and educate parents.
And I say that parents because it's not just the moms,
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it's the dads too. There are men's panels here as
where as well on fatherhood. So it's important to know
that parental rights are still important. They will continue to
be important, thankfully here in Florida where I am at
this Orlando conference. Florida has set a standard. Governor DeSantis
has made it very clear where he stands on parnal rights,
and it's a template, I think, Steve for the rest
of the country to follow, because Dessantas is not afraid
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to stand up to this well, and.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I agree with that. Look, we need to take a
stand for calling out the absurd. We do. We have
to call out the absurd, don't we.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
It's kind of our I mean, I take it seri
as be part of our job here on real America.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
But I say, wait a second. People don't buy that.
Speaker 10 (43:46):
Right, Yeah, I mean, let me give you an example
to my mom sent me this story happened just in
the past couple of days.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Fernando, Mississippi.
Speaker 10 (43:56):
A grand jury indicted Lindsay Whiteside, a former basketball coach
in youth minister, of sexual battery of a child.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Steve.
Speaker 10 (44:02):
The DA wanted thirty years, but they only got she
only got ten years of court supervision. And the kicker
is this a school board member and vice principal Michelle
Henley openly supported Whiteside in court. Now you can imagine
the DA and the family of the victim were mortified
about this.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
This is why, Steve, elections matter.
Speaker 10 (44:18):
They have consequences, and its group like Moms for Liberty
that can keep pressure on school boards and vice principles
and people all over this country who are simply doing
the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, let me ask you a question, bo last question here.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
If if bodied parts don't determine whether you're a man
or a woman, why did transgender people alter their bodies
to fit the secks they believe they are.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I mean, I'm a little confused by that helped me out.
Speaker 10 (44:49):
I don't know if I can help you there, Steve,
that's the million dollar question.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
I've never understood it.
Speaker 10 (44:52):
I've never understood how women's rights and feminism are supposed
to matter if male and female don't matter anymore, if
the lines are blue. I'm sure you probably saw that
study that said that, you know, the identification of college
students among transgenders has been cut in half. Is that true?
I certainly hope so. I hope we've hit the peak
woke period. I hope we're in a post woke era.
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But I can tell you here at this conference, at
this summit, parents are putting pressure on school boards on
their principles, on their teachers, on the teachers' union. Steve,
you know you've reported on this a lot. We've got
to keep pressure on them because the rights of parents
are critical. As a new father, I got to tell
you I'm learning a lot here.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Well as well. You should. Being a dad takes a
lot of work.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
But we need more dads in America too, So it's
an important job both, the most important one you may
ever have.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Thank you for being here. Have a great weekend. I'm
sure we'll talk again, you bet. Thanks Steve. There, you
have it all right. So next up, my good friend
Eric Bowling standing by to take the baton as I'm coming,
running around the back stretch and heading into the checkered tape.
There it is Eric Bowling. Everybody, good looking fella there.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
He is good to see it, Grobert, really really good
to see. I saw Zelenski and the Oval office. I
saw our own Brian Glenn.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
You know she's wearing a different color suit.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
Because last time Zelenski says, you're always wearing the same suit,
so very stutely or the tan suit that was. That
was a brilliant, brilliant move on that one. I didn't
see if they had an interaction back and forth about
what he was wearing.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
But yeah, Steve, I just I just hate.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
The idea that we're financing or helping finance a war
that personally, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
We should be even involved. But that is my personal
I'm kind of a nice I am on the same
page with you. Look, I think that Putin's a terrible guy,
but I think that that's Europe's problem first and foremost.
Should we maybe help him out? Yes, but you know,
we've been sent the bill over and over again, not
just for this war, but for the last seventy or
eighty years. I think we can do better things with
our resources and not fight Europe's wars every time they
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have a problem. But hey, that's just my opinion. Eric.
Speaker 6 (46:55):
I am straight up libertarian, and I'll call myself a Conservetorian.
So I like the conservative part of smaller government, lower
your taxes, let us handle what we do with our
own money. And then the other part, I just I don't.
I'm I'm a little different in the state. I don't
care who you sleep with or what you want to wear.
I really don't just keep it away from the kids,
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keep it away from me through your.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Things from the kids. Yeah, exactly that you got it,
Not exactly