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November 25, 2025 47 mins

SEGMENT 1: A STEP TOWARDS ENDING THE RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR
SEGMENT 2: DESIGNATING THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD AS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
SEGMENT 3: ILLEGAL STREET VENDORS ARE RETURNING TO NYC
SEGMENT 4: OHIO APPEALS COURT RULES IN FAVOR OF PASTOR HELPING THE HOMELESS
SEGMENT 5: TALKING TO EVERYDAY AMERICANS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY
SEGMENT 6: YOUR ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION OF THE DAY

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:44):
Steve Greer. Today is Tuesday, the twenty fifth of November,
in the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five. Let's
get to the day's top story is always thank you
for joining us here in Real America's Voice. We appreciate it.
President Trump signed an executive order on Monday directing Secretary
of Saint Marco Rubio and Treasury Secretary of Scott Descent
to again labeling key chapters of the Muslim Brotherhood as
foreign terrorist organizations. I'll bring on an expert to discuss

(01:05):
what that means. Today. Also is on Mamdanie's recent victory
in New York City race for mayor. Many illegal street
vendors are returning to the streets of New York. There's
a small bite of what's to come of the Big Apple.
Probably later, an open Ohio pastor opened his shores to
help the homeless, only to face legal threats from the
city over zoning mission rules. Now court has ruled his favor,

(01:28):
letting the ministry to continue its work. Details coming up,
but first I want to start with the news on Ukraine. Today,
ukraind the United States appear to be moving closer to
a breakthrough in efforts to end the nearly four year
old war with Russia. A US official confirmed earlier today
that Washington and Kiev have agreed to the broad outline
of a peace deal, with final details still being ironed out.

(01:49):
Of course, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelinsky is expected to travel
to Washington later this month to meet with President Trump
and finalize the agreement. Ukrainian official signal cautious support for
the framework, noting that several sensitive points will require direct
discussion between the two leaders. The development marks one of
the strongest sides yet that the Trump administration's aggressive diplomatic

(02:11):
push may finally gain some traction. Still, optimism remains guarded.
Moscow has already warned it will not accept any settlement
that drifts away from its own strategic goals. I'm just
growing the challenges ahead as negotiations that are a decisive phase.
Joining out to discuss this as retired Army colonel and
former special advisor to President Trump, Colonel Derek Harvey, Colonel,

(02:31):
nice to see you here today. Of course this is
a breakthrough, but we're a long way from getting signatures
on a deal, aren't we.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
I agree with that, Steve. And this is the result, though,
of nearly nine months of intensive efforts by the President
and his team to try to bridge the differences between
Ukraine and Russia, both of which have been strategically committed
to certain outcomes, and every effort that he has placed,

(03:02):
meaning President Trump, whether it's going to Anchorage or having
his interlocutors meet in Moscow or in Turkey or wherever
they've gone, this has been part of a process to
bring both sides together and in a way that there's
an opportunity to bring peace, and it's going to be doable,

(03:22):
I think at this point in time. But we have
to be patient.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
You know, the war has.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
Gone on and there still are some major obstacles, but
we are much closer with the talks that are going
on between the US and the Russians in the United
Arab Emirates and between those talks between Ukraine and US
representatives in Switzerland.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Look, a lot of people are not gonna be happy
about this. I heard some Republicans in Congress grumbling about
this twenty eight point piece plan, not liking what they see.
But Zelensky has agreed to it in general. In principle,
I suppose. Look, they're never going back to where the
boundaries were previously. The international boundaries between Ukraine and Russia

(04:06):
will never be the same. That's been true since Russia
invaded in February twenty twenty two. It's been discussed on
this program at length. But the question is how much
does Ukraine have to give up? What will Russia accept?
How do we end this where we'ree hundreds of thousand
people have died, and unless set aside this notion that
somehow Donald Trump's in bed with Vladimir Putin Putin has

(04:27):
no intention of giving up the territory unless you want
to kill another one hundred thousand or two hundred thousand.
How long do you want the war to grind on?
We need to be practical about this. At some point
say the killing has to stop, and that's going to
come with concessions from both sides. Do you believe that's
true for the.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Most part, that's absolutely correct. You know, Russia has the
means and the strategic will to continue to the war.
Ukraine does not. The United States, the major supporter of Ukraine,
does not have, you know, the excess riches and the
willingness to risk a broader war to continue this. You

(05:03):
know for such a long time that we could. You know,
we can't afford any We can't afford an endless war
where American taxpayers are paying it and the Europeans still
have not stood up to the task confronting them. I
agree with what you've said. The one question that is
going to be very important is what are the security
guarantees that protect Ukraine in the future. What are the

(05:27):
actual trade offs vis a vis any relationship with NATO,
The limits on the size of the military, the types
of armament, and other security guarantees that could satisfy some
of the really important issues for Ukraine. You don't want
to fight for three years plus with these types of
losses and have Russia come back and be able to

(05:48):
prey upon a weekend Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, when the Warsaw Pact country fell apart circle nineteen
ninety two, Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons.
Ukraine was prompt must buy Russia at that time and
by others that their territorial sovereignty would be protected, that
they were fine. It didn't turn out that way, which
brings me to Vladimir Putin cannot be trusted. He can't.

(06:12):
He's proven a time and again he can't be trusted.
He'll come, he'll play a game, he'll go back on
his word. Why would we believe that this time could
be different.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
That's a very difficult question. And you know the past
will you know, leads us to think that Putin will
try to return three years, four years, five years down
the road, which is what the Ukrainians have been saying
all along. That's why the issue of you know, fortifying
and strengthening Ukrainian military capabilities and some type of security

(06:45):
guarantees is very important at this juncture. Otherwise it's very
difficult to see, you know how Ukraine, unless they're you know,
just totally threatened by Washington d C, can come to
an agreement. They are losing the war, I think through attrition,
and that is significant factor. And they're thinking at this

(07:07):
point in time as they see support for their war
effort eroad, not just in the United States but in Europe.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, all right, let's move on to the next topic here,
which I think is just as important. We'll keep an
eye on what's happening with the peace talks. It's at
a delicate point. Marco Rubio and others not tipping their
hand because look, these things have to be discussed in secret,
in private to make sure that the deals can get done.
If it was out in public for everybody to see,
nothing would ever get done. Now, I'd like to shift

(07:36):
your attention to Senators Alissa Slotkin and Mark Kelly. As
you know, they posted a video calling on troops to
ignore illegal orders from the present. Take a look at this.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
Americans trust their military, but that trust is at risk.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
This administration is pitting our uniform military.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
And intelligence community professionals.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Against American citizens. Like us. You all swore an oath.

Speaker 7 (08:00):
To defend this constitution.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming
from a broad but from right here at home.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Our laws are clear.

Speaker 8 (08:08):
You can refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
No one has to carry out orders that violate the
law or our constitution.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
We know this is hard, and that it's a difficult
time to be a public servant.

Speaker 9 (08:22):
But whether you're serving in the CIA.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
The Army, or Navy, the Air Force, your vigilance is critical.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Of course, nobody there speaking was able to give a
single example of one illegal order given by this present.
They had nothing. List A slot can tried and fumbled
around on Sunday morning television. It was a dismal affair
for her. I want to share with you eighteen US
Code twenty three eighty seven. Whoever, with intent to interfere with,
impair or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the

(08:52):
military of the Naval Forces of the United States, that advises, counsels, urges,
or in any matter attempts to cause, attempts to procure insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny,
or refusal of duty by any member of the military,
and it goes on. But these are the things that
look to me, they're calling for insubordination there, they're calling
for disloyalty or refusal of duty. It's pretty clear to me, Colonel,

(09:18):
I'm a layman, I was never in the military. From
your point of view, does it meet that level.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
It's a very disturbing, uh, you know, request by these
six political leaders, and it's very distressing in that it's
going to so doubt amongst some of our military personnel.
To me, it crosses the line. It also is, you know,
currently under investigation in the Pentagon, and the FBI has sought,

(09:48):
you know, interviews with these six individuals. Keep in mind
that those that retired from the US military, like Senator
Mark Kelly, you know, are still subject to the Uniform
Code of Military Justice. And in my mind, he has
crossed that line. And you know, because of that, there's
that investigation and Senator Gago from Arizona, Kelly's partner from

(10:14):
representing the state in the United States Senate, has in
my view, threatened the independence of the US military and
the Pentagon's independent evaluation, and that should also be investigated.
In my view, The last thing I would say, Steve
was this, I never heard any of these voices, particularly

(10:35):
Miss Slotkins, any view raised about concern about violating their
oaths or their constitutional responsibilities when there was the weaponization
of the CIA and the FBI and others against a
newly elected president in twenty seventeen. Never heard a peep

(10:56):
from them.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yep. Senator Gego also So said that he received the
same script, same script, but he didn't have time to
record it. They laughed about this on CNN. I played
the clip earlier here today on Real America's Voice laughed
about it. So, who wrote the script? Where did it
come from? And concerning Alyssa Slotkin, she claims this intelligence

(11:17):
community background, she was an analyst. An analyst is not
very high up in the totem pole, are they?

Speaker 5 (11:23):
No, she's not, and she's not. Probably was not involved
in senior level interagency discussions or actions. Definitely not on
the operational side of things. I don't even know if
that was ever deployed overseas for that matter.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, So a lot of questions here. So here's the question.
It's never been done that a sitting member of Congress
or the United States Senate has been recalled as Mark
Kelly could face here. The senator, because he's former Navy,
former astronaut, could be recalled because when you sign on
that dotted line, you're once a member of the military,
always a member of the military. You can be recalled.

(12:01):
And there's discussions of there being a court martial. Would
that be the right thing to do or would that
be a step too far? You're a former military man,
you tell.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Me, I would like to see an unbiased evaluation of
the situation by the Pentagon, and I think that's being done.
No one should be above the law. That's the refrain
we've always heard. And just because Senator Mark Kelly is
a senator, he is not above the law, and he

(12:30):
is setting a bad precedent. I think he crossed the line.
I think there should be a recalled active duty for
legal proceedings against him.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
There you go. You want the court marshals. So do
a lot of millions of Americans. In fact, look, it
was across the line. I'm just a guy sitting here
watching it happen from the heartland of America, and I'm like,
how in the world can you come out and say
something that you're undermining morale, you're underminding the chain of command,
you're instigating the idea of insubordination. It's pretty clear to me.

(13:02):
I'll give you the last word.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
I would say it's very distressing. I've heard from a
lot of professional military people, both active duty and former
military service members, who are likewise very concerned about the
actual crossing of the line by Senator Mark Kelly. In particular,
he knows better. He's also in a leadership position in
the Senate, and he is has become an extreme partisan,

(13:29):
and because of that he should not be immune from
the consequences of his actions.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I agree with you on that, Colonel. Thank you for
being here today. As always. If I don't see again, have
a great Thanksgiving. Thank you, Steve all right after the break,
President Trump is taking a stand against extremism, targeting the
Muslim Brotherhood as so many other countries have, marking them
as a foreign terrorist organization, sparking both praise and of
course ridicule here at home. But several other countries, like Egypt,

(13:59):
they've already done this, and these are the people that
would know best. The discussion straight ahead, Brosident Trumpsin and
Executive order Monday directing Secretary of State Marco Rubio and
Treasury Secretary of scalp Ascent to begin labeling key chapters

(14:21):
of the Muslim Brotherhood as foreign terrorist organizations. The order
leans on long standing federal authorities, arguing that the group's
record of violence across the Middle East can no longer
be ignored. Conservatives calling it a long overdue step when
they say it restores moral clarity after years of hesitation
and confronting extremist networks around the world. Supporters insist to

(14:44):
move strengthens national security and signals that the US will
stand firm against radical groups, no matter how politically sensitive
the issue may be. Critics pushing back, of course, but
the administration is pressing forward, framing the decision as a
necessary stand for American safety see National Security and Global
Stability jemy. To discuss this is National security analyst and

(15:05):
Vice president of the Lexington Institute, doctor Rebecca Grant, Doctor,
Thank you for being here today.

Speaker 9 (15:11):
Great to talk with you.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
When Egypt and other countries the Middle East label the
Muslim Brotherhood as terrorists and ban them, shouldn't we pay
attention to that and say, well, if they don't like them,
and they know them better than anyone. Why would it
be controversial here.

Speaker 9 (15:32):
Exactly? And Egypt enacted that ban in twenty thirteen. No
one knows better than Egypt's President Alcci just how dangerous
the Muslim Brotherhood can be. And what we see going
on with this executive order is a forty five day
period for State and Treasury to start looking into the

(15:54):
various chapters. And I like seeing, you know, this is
our power team, Secretary Rubio, Secretary Bessent. This lets them
use the full power of their departments to figure out
which of the chapters need to be designated and focus
particularly there on Treasury. This will allow Treasury to start

(16:14):
doing their wonderful forensic work looking at the financials to
see if there's support coming into the US for Muslim
Brotherhood chapters, and of course to try to make sure
that you can never see that well funded terror network
that it Ran had running in the Middle East. So
it's the start of a long, overdue and I think
a very healthy process.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
How large is the Muslim Brotherhood, Let's let me talk
about that. Give me some idea. Is there any idea
of how many of these chapters or individuals reside here?
In the United States as we sit here today.

Speaker 9 (16:50):
Wow, I know that's a question I'd like answered as well.
You know, we know, the Brotherhood has been around a
long time. It was founded in nineteen twenty eight, and
like most sprawling organizations, some groups are milder, but others.
There's a group, a Muslim Brotherhood group in Lebanon that
was literally, you know, helping load the missiles to fire
against Israel, the missiles and rockets. So it just really

(17:13):
it just really varies. And great that you ask about
the US, because I think this is part of what
is driving the Executive Order, the desire to find out
if there is a campaign to influence US institutions, which
several reports have alleged. You know who else is after
this is France. They are starting to look at the

(17:33):
role of the Muslim Brotherhood as well.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, let me ask you about extending this idea of
investigating organizations the Council on American Islamic Relations that are
known as CARE labeled as a terrorist group by the
UAE in twenty fourteen. Is it just the Muslim Brotherhood?
Are there other organizations out there that, let's be honest,
their core mission is terrorism?

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (18:00):
My goodness, Yes, of course, I mean, we can't forget
even though it's not in the headlines that ISIS is
still very active. We have carried out strikes against isa's
targets from around in the reaches of Iraq. We did
that last year. All through this year we saw, you know,
part of the problem in Nigeria where Christians are persecuted

(18:20):
is driven by ISIS West Africa. So there are a
number of groups that we are continually keeping an eye on.
And then you know, one of the reasons that Trump
is doing this is that he is trying to kind
of clean up this whole mess of foreign organizations influencing
the US. The executive order lays out the NARCO cartel

(18:43):
designations like TRENDI, Argua and the others, and connects the
dots between going after the drug cartels and then starting
to look into the finances and activities of specific chapters
of the Muslim Brotherhood. It's all about cleaning up US
national security and making sure that we are safer for
the long term from terrorism. Finances influence all that bad stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
And if people don't think that ISIS is a threat,
I direct your attention to that planned attack outside of
Detroit on Halloween that was disruptive by the FBI after
a several weeks investigation where two Islamic terrorists intended to
shoot up local bars in a city called Ferndale. It's
active here, It's dangerous here, and would any of us

(19:31):
be shocked to wake up tomorrow see headlines of an
Isis inspired or Muslim expired inspired attack somewhere in America.
I don't think we would be give me the last
word exactly.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
We have to constantly keep on the potential for Islamic
fundamentalism to hurt us here, just as we are vigilant
about it overseas. Any Central Command commander would tell you
they're constantly watching for a return of a long fundamentalism.
We have to stay that out.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Nott, Rebecca Grant really appreciate you being here today. Thank
you for the insight.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Thank you all.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Right after the break was run Memdannie's recent victory in
the New York City mayor o Race, many illegal street
vendors are now returning to their posts on the streets
of New York. Is this a small bite of what's
to come of the Big Apple? Possibly we'll have that
discussion coming out. But America's Voice Live all right. Incoming

(20:34):
New York City mayors Zorun Mamdannie has promised his constituents
the Big Apple will be the strongest sanctuary city in
the country. Just one month after I swept the city
Canal Street and arrested non criminal illegal aliens, shut down
the illegal vendors. They're back blocking sidewalks selling counterfeit goods,
stolen goods, and protest groups are teaching the illegals how

(20:57):
to hide from ice and handing out guides on how
to avoid arrest. York City police refuse to intervene borders
are Tom Homan has promised increased ice raids, but is
expecting pushback from the incoming mayor. Here to discuss sturning point.
USA contributer Kaelin Delmata Caitlyn, thank you for being here, Steve,

(21:17):
thanks for having me on.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
First, I'd like to say, you know, this is a
great report. They came from our front lines team, savand
Hernandez has.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Given us the follow up.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Right, we were out there on the ground and we
can see that this is what happens when New York
City chooses chaos.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
We get a lot of negative results.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
And you know, these these individuals are being bussed in
as we've seen over the last four years, and they're
doing exactly what they did in their third world countries.
And this impacts New Yorkers at large, It affects small
business owners, and it actually contributes to a plethora laundry

(21:55):
list of illicit and criminal enterprise, not just in New
York City but around the world. So this is something
that Mom Donnie, who actually just won, is inviting into
the country.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
So tell me about the streets of New York. What
is it like there? Is it like I've heard? I've
not seen it myself, so I need someone to give
you an idea. It looks to me like some third
world flea market. You know, all sorts of goods are
just sitting on the sidewalk. It's not a legal place
to conduct businesses, and violation of all sorts of city
ordinances and city law because there's some things that are

(22:31):
stolen or fake. I mean, what's it like, right?

Speaker 6 (22:36):
So, I mean what you're seeing on videos exactly how
it is. You're going to have some of these districts
where these people set up shop.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
And these are not harmless people.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
These are not all people just looking to make a
better life for themselves. A lot of these are violent criminals.
A lot of them are criminal, illegal aliens who you know,
they run from the police. They have rap sheets that
include robbery, burglary, and other violent crimes. And so New
Yorkers want a city that's going to be much safer,

(23:05):
and I think they deserve that. So, you know, this
is not something that we should be seeing in American streets.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Steve, all Right, So we saw Ma'm Donnie and Trump
in the Oval Office here just a few days ago,
and it was a love fest. It was a bromance.
It was unusual and over the top in some ways.
But my takeaway from that was simply this. I believe
Donald Trump is trying to set up Mam Donnie as
a hero, set him up as the leader of the

(23:33):
Democrat Party, and for very good reasons, because six months
from now, New York City could look very different. There
could be some big problems once there takes over there
on the first of January. I think it was a
brilliant move by Donald Trump set him up as the
de facto leader, the face of the Democrat Party.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
What do you think, Yeah, I think the best thing
that we can hope for in a situation with that
is that Trump is saying, hey, Mom, Donnie, you go
ahead and take the of New York City. You go
ahead and make all the decisions that you would make,
and when things start to fall apart, as they inevitably will,
nobody in this world can ever point to a socialist

(24:12):
nation or a socialist city, or socialist program like the
ones that he has proposed that ever work well out
in the long term. So I think that it was
Donald Trump, Donald Trump's way of saying, here you go,
here's the reins, and when things inevitably fail, all the
blowback will be for you, mom, Donnie.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
And maybe it's not handing him the reins. Maybe it's
handing him the rope, as they say, here, here's the rope.
Take all you need and hang yourself. And I don't
mean literally, I mean, you know, rhetorically, because there you've
got all these ideas. You want free grocery stores and
free bus passes, and one to replaced police officers with
social workers. I wouldn't want to be a social worker

(24:55):
in New York City right now. By the way, if
that were the case, how dangerous could that possibly do it?
Here's the rope. You've got all these great ideas, show
us how it's done. And I think that's exactly what's happening. Kitlin.
I agree.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
I agree, And I think that you know this, If
New Yorkers you're going to continue to you know, drink
the kool aid, so to speak, then you know there's
going to be much darker days ahead for the City
of New York. But you know, I don't think that
you know, the federal government wants to see that happen.
No one wants to see failure. But sometimes it's kind

(25:32):
of like when you're raising a child. You have to
you can't spare the rod, otherwise they'll never learn. So
potentially this is going to be a tough lesson going
into the future for New York City.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Look, you can't make America great again or put America
first if our great cities, especially New York City, has
been compromised or limited or damaged. But in order to
get there, maybe you have to let a little bit
of damage happen, a little bit of the exposure, hold
back the curtain a little bit, and say, look, this
is what you want. Here is the leader of the

(26:03):
Democrat parties round Mam Donnie the mayor of New York City,
and look what a disaster it is. Last word to you.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Sure, I think you know you mentioned America first policies.
I think America first policies are are the way to go.
I think a lot of people have been popularizing these ideas,
and I don't think that that's what Mom Donnie wants
for the city of New York. I don't think that
he is American at the core of his being. I

(26:33):
think that he's anti American. I think that he's a charlatan,
and I don't want to see him succeed.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
So you know, I think.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Moving forward, you know, whatever comes his way will be
his demise, and I think it'll be his own doing.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Justice.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Trump, as you said, handed him the rope. And you know,
I think America will see better days in the future
after Mom Donnie.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Kil and I hope you're right. We'll keep an eye
on all of it. Thank you for being here. I
appreciate Seth. Thank you all. Right, after the break, I'll
discuss an Ohio Appeals Cord ruling in favor of a
pastor who is charged with criminal code violations for just
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(28:08):
the key tenets of faith has to do with helping
your fellow man, of course, and an Ohio pastor decided
to do exactly that until the law unjustly got in
the way. Well, the Sixth District Court of Ohio has
recently ruled in favor of Pastor Chris Abel and allowed
him to keep using his ministry Dad's Place as a

(28:28):
shelter for the homeless. First Liberty, a nonprofit legal group,
along with other attorneys, took on Pastor Abel's case against
the city of Byron, who tried to shut down his
ministry for alleged zoning violations and actually charged him with
a criminal code violation. Furthermore, the city council there the Commission,

(28:48):
stated that since the church had no bedrooms, the homeless
could not be housed there. Thankfully, the appeals court in
Ohio decided to rule in favor of Pastor Abel, and
here's hoping that it stays that. Join me to discuss
the president of some administries, Doctor Jeff Myers, Jeff, nice
to see you. Look sometimes you just scratch your head
and go Really, it's a church. They're helping home. Those

(29:11):
people getting somebody. Oh if they sleep on the floor
and they're inside, Hey look, Ohio, this time the ear
gets a little raw. It's better than sleeping outside and
doing the right thing. No good deed goes unpunished. I
guess your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
They seriously punished this pastor. They didn't just go after
him for one or two things. They had like eighteen accounts.
They kept going after him for code violations, fire violations,
all of these things. All he was trying to do
is get some homeless people so they wouldn't have to
sleep outside in northwest Ohio in the middle of the winter.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
It was Steve.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
This got my attention, first of all because it's a
religious liberty issue, but second because all of the homeless
problems that we see today are caused by the way
our government operates, and it is churches that are stepping
in to do something. And if they actually are successful
with it, well that sure makes the government look bad,

(30:07):
which is not what they want.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Well, Jeff, let's be honest about this. You go back
fifty years or eighty years, it was the churches in
this country, all of them that helped homeless, single moms,
were raising kids, the people that didn't have something to eat.
And then the government came in hard, beginning about nineteen
sixty five of a great society. And ever since that time,

(30:31):
the government has continued to marginalize churches, push them out
of the way, get rid of soup kitchens, get rid
of homeless shelter, get rid of all of that. And
they've done an abysmal job. Now the churches are coming
back onto the scene and they want to attack them.
That's what it looks like to me. I think that's
a big part of it.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
And I would go even further and say the federal
government came in and marginalized all of the efforts of states.
We had fifty possible experiments for how you handle things
like homelessness, and the federal government came in and shut
all of those down. A lot of the people who
are on the streets now are mentally ill. That goes
back to a trend called the institutionalization, where mental hospitals

(31:09):
were shut down because they said, oh, we'll just put
them in community settings and we'll give them drugs and
everything will be fine. Well, these people are now in
the streets. They're terrified, they don't know how to survive.
They're just going from day to day. They need institutional care,
and the only place they're going to get it is
in a jail.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
So the prison.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Population is now growing and the states are all encouraged
to do this just because of the way the social
security system operates, the way it gets funds to help
things like this. So you all fingers point to the
federal government if they're homeless people on your street. It's
government policies and rules and regulations like those silly ones

(31:47):
in the city of Brian, Ohio, which are in every
community that are causing the problem.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Wouldn't it be easier and more cost effective if you
pass the collection play and say, hey, folks, we're trying
to have a soup kitchen here, We're going to feed
twenty people a day, fifty people a day, whatever it is,
and take that financial pressure off the government, say the
taxpayer some money. Let the churches do what they're supposed
to do, be people of faith, lead in faith, lead

(32:13):
in the word. And wouldn't that ease the financial burden
on these local municipalities that are all broke, the county
governments that are all broke, the state governments are just
about all of them are all broke. Why would you
refuse the help?

Speaker 3 (32:28):
I can't imagine why you would refuse it. That's what
doesn't make any sense. And that's why First Liberty was
able to win this case on behalf of pastor Able,
because the city wouldn't even they wouldn't even say why
they're trying to persecute him. They just kept going back
to all these code violations, and it was insane. Let
me say this as well, these cities zoning regulations are

(32:51):
causing a significant part of the problem. There is a
reason why there is a housing crisis in San Francisco
and a housing crisis in Los Angeles, and there's not
a housing crisis in Houston or in San Antonio because
in the state of Texas they have reasonable regulations that
allow homes to actually be built that can serve people,
and in California they don't.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
So it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Probably these blue states should be looking to some red
states for solutions to some of these issues. But churches
can certainly be involved in and they can do a
better job because you know what you really need, You
need mental health care, We got a therapist. What is
it you really need? You need a job, Well, we
can help you get a part time job. They can
do things that government agencies just can't do because they

(33:34):
focus only on mass efforts.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, mass failure. I mean, look, the homeless population in
America continues to go. Remember back when when Ronald Reagan
was president, the Democrats a going Ronald Reagan has created
so much homelessness it's gone up many folds since then,
in places like California, Illinois, and New York. The list
goes on, and aren't the states supposed to be there
to show us best practices. Isn't that how this is

(33:58):
supposed to work. We're supposed to have best practices. And therefore,
if it's working in a state that you point out,
and it works in Texas, shouldn't states like California say, look,
what they're doing in Texas is working. We should try that.
But they don't. I'll give you the last word.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
That would be awfully common sense of them to do it.
But people in California suffer from what's called.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
The Nimby government.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Rome Nimby not in my backyard. We want all the
problems to be solved, but we don't want to have
to see it or do anything with it ourselves. That's
what happens when you try to offload your social responsibilities
to the federal government, the country gets worse and not better.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Now, I'm going to go ahead and keep trying to
help people when I can, Jeff. That's what I'm going
to do. That's what I think is important, doctor Jeff Myers.
Happy Thanksgiving to you. I hope you enjoy it, do
the right thing and lead with faith. Happy Thanksgiving to you. Steve.
There you have it, good man. Before we go to break.
I want to remind you to tune into Real America's

(34:54):
Voice this Thursday at seven am Eastern Time for our
Give thanks Thanksgiving special to buy a very own bo
Davidson repeats will also air later in the day Thursday
and on Friday. You don't want to miss it, and
don't go anywhere. America's Voice Live will continue in a moment.

(35:18):
All right, how about we have some fun. You ready
to have some fun, put a smile in your face.
But Thanksgiving right around the corner. It's important to hear
what average everyday Americans are thinking, at least I think so,
especially on the topic of affordability on the table. Real
America's Voice corresponded. David's r is at the Bethpage Embassy Diner,
New York, hanging out with some everyday Americans. David, you

(35:38):
got some folks to talk to for us.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
What you got, yes, Steve, Happy Thanksgiving to you and
your family. Here.

Speaker 10 (35:45):
We got great people here. We have a lot of
information for you. We're gonna start with Adele. How are
you adel I'm good? How are you good? So you're
a Long Island resident, but you have two children that
left Long Island due to high cost of living, right, yes,
I do, all right, one in Florida, one in ps correct,
all right, but you're.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Going to join them, right, I'm joining my son in PA.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
All right, good, good, good?

Speaker 4 (36:07):
What does Thanksgiving mean to you?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Oh? Family, food, obviously, friends.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Well that's nice, that's nice.

Speaker 10 (36:16):
I heard eighty seven million people Steve will be traveling
this holiday. At least, it's an incredible number here. I
also have Greg Hack with us. He's running in the
third district to replace George Santos's seat. He's running against
Democrat Tom Swasey. What are you going to do to
regain the trust of the people up there and get
that seatback.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm going to do exactly what I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
I'm gonna be the best possible candidate I can be,
working to learn every single local issue, the national issues,
getting briefings from Congress and legislation coming down, doing everything
I do to be the best possible way.

Speaker 10 (36:49):
So what's important to the people in that third district? Right,
You've got a lot of financial services people, a lot
of Wall Street has left already, another eight thousand jobs
being cut in twenty twenty five. Do you think that
exodus will continue under them?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Donning.

Speaker 7 (37:02):
I think it will continue. I think it will continue.
I think we've backed your local community. Absolutely, of course
it will. Absolutely. It's becoming just two more too expensive
to live in the district. I mean, kids can't come
back and raise their families can't raise. The average single
family home is over eight hundred thousand dollars in Nassau, Canada.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Average taxes eight grand.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah, I wish, I wish mine was that level one.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (37:21):
An interest rates is still high, Steve, so it's going
to take a while for that to come down. But
everybody we spoke to today in the Steina says they're
confident that in twenty twenty six the economy will be
better here. And you're an aviation right, really quick. You're
a pilot, right, you fly a Grumming plane, right?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (37:37):
I did Grumm and Tiger. In fact, my daughter is
sixteen years old. She just solo this morning.

Speaker 10 (37:43):
I was in the Civil Air Patrol as well. We
were talking when we're younger, doing aviation for flight instruction.
But we're right by Grumm and Steve, and there's one
hundred year history of grumm and aviation that left Long Island.
They made the f fourteen, the A sixth Intruder, the
E two Sea Hawk Eye, the Module, the the P
forty seven Thunderbolt. Right down the road at Fairchild, Republic.

(38:06):
We won World War Two here with the F success
Hellcat and the TBF Avenger.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Right. Such a rich history from Long Island aviation.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
Rich history in aviation. It's in fact in the third
Congressional District is where is where Charles Limberg took off
from to traverse the Atlantic Atlantic Ocean.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah, I forgot about that right here, Roosevelt Field, right
down the road. Yeah, right where I went to Civil
Air Patrol. Unbelievable.

Speaker 10 (38:28):
We wanted to get to Brian really quick. So Brian's
a young guy, he's a waiter here, Come on in, Brian.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
You know.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
So we were talking about no tax on tips. How
does that benefit fit you and how does it work?

Speaker 11 (38:39):
So not only does it benefit me in a sense
that we don't have to claim it now during tax season,
you know, no tax on it, but also from a
customer standpoint, there's some a lot of time in the
past they'd be afraid to tip on card vision. They
don't want you to get you know, tagized, penalized. But
now it's more of like they're not as hesitant. They
get tip on card. It makes it easier for them.
They don't have to bring cash with them, So it
makes a big different.

Speaker 10 (39:00):
Now, when you whip out the credit card, you always
spend more money than you were going to write if it.

Speaker 11 (39:03):
Makes a big difference. Now you know everyone's work pay
for it later. Yeah, exactly, it makes a big difference.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Like working for Gus here at the day.

Speaker 11 (39:11):
Oh, it's amazing, the most patriotic diner in the country.
It's I wouldn't want to be working.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Yeah, Steve, this place is amazing.

Speaker 10 (39:16):
The decorations every holiday they change it up like seven
times a year for these holidays.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
And we got the sous chef here who does the
decorating here, right, that's it. Wow. And now how long
you been here?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Oh well, I've actually been here about three or four
years since they took over.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Let's ask Gott what's your report caught on Trump in
his first year.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I think it's excellent. I think it's excellent. You know,
I hope he just keeps going with the investments that
he's putting into the country, you know, foreign and domestic.
I mean, I'm wout nineteen jillion dollars in investments coming
into this country.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
It's a it's a big number, and a lot of manufacturers.
First term, yeah, and I have.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
A feeling that in twenty six it's gonna go crazy.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
I think so too. Once interest rate it's how come
now people can refin projects.

Speaker 10 (39:59):
And Trump brought nine thousand factors and distributions on his
back to the United States in his first term. But
Steve are these people are the heart and sould, bread
and butter, the hard working Americans, the real American voices
on the ground here in beth Page.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
I told you that was going to be fun. David' zeer,
well done and happy thanks given to you and your mom. David.
I love your mother, as you know. She's one of
the biggest fans that I have here on the network.
I appreciate her. So happy thanks given to you and
all those great folks in beth Page.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Same same there you have it all right.

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After the break levestory. It reminds us just how wonderful
America is this Thanksgiving week. Plus your answers to our
America's Voice question of the day, what is the most
overrated Thanksgiving food? What is the thing you look at

(41:55):
and go eh answers after the break what makes America wonderful?
We do it every day with the hope of putting
a smile on your face and think we're pretty good

(42:16):
at it. Today's story comes to us from Loveland, Colorado,
where a family is aiming to bring the gift of
Thanksgiving to truckers that are on the road making sure
that you have what you need on your shelves. Candy
Roy was distraught to find out that her husband would
not be president Thanksgiving dinner, but had to bitterly accept
the fact that, given that mister Roy is a truck driver,
well that's just the way it was going to be.

(42:37):
Determined to not let work get in the middle of
the holiday, Candy and the kids decided to join mister
Roy on the road, but had the idea of bringing
a Thanksgiving meal to not only him, but to others
that are making it happen. Making America work with the
permission from Love's Truck Stop and generous donations from a
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(42:58):
a home cook Thanksgiving meal to over yet this two
hundred truckers passing along the loves this Thanksgiving to make
those long drives a bit more bearable. Well, most of
us are getting ready for the long weekend to head.
Many truck drivers across the country still have to hunker
down and deliver the goods that stock our shelves without complaints.
And the Roy's family gesture bringing a home cooked meal

(43:20):
of truckers along the way reminds us of what makes
America wonderful. You have good stuff, all right. So here
it is. I've had this question sitting in queue for
a bit. What is the most overrated Thanksgiving food? What
is it you look at and go, uh, Mike McLaughlin,
I'd have to say cranberry sauce. But I love it.
It's over eighty, but he loves it. Pat Downing, This

(43:42):
is not going to be a popular answer, Pat green
bean castrole. People love green bean castrole. They love it.
Mary McDonald's back with the cranberry sauce, bex Hamshire mashed potatoes.
What do you mean garlic mashed potatoes? You know the
lumpy ones. All those shirts great, Larry berglof none are overrated?

(44:04):
Love it all. If you don't like something, don't eat it,
because say I'll eat it. Scott King can cratberry cranberry, Scott,
I think you had a misspelling issue there, Roger and
Tana Hawkins pumpkin pie. I eat pumpkin pie once a
year at Thanksgiving. Dana Newton yams. I don't ever had

(44:27):
yams at Thanksgiving. Dudley Mills says turkey's overrated. James Woodlock
says jams squash and see I'm a squash lover. Love
that stuff I do. Kim Spielman, Heward turkey. Why not
fix meat loaf? Park jobs? Hey, you know whatever, whatever
does it for you. I don't mind as long as
it's good, all right. I like a nice Tomahawk's steak

(44:48):
at Thanksgiving and frankly, any day of the year. You
can be part of the Question of the Day by
following me on any of the major social media platforms.
You'll find me at Steve Gruber's show. Always send me
an email to go to Steve dot com. Send me
an email, I wonder what Bowling likes. Doesn't lie he's
joining me now? Of course here it is Eric Bowling.
Everybody he's on at four o'clock every day here in

(45:10):
Real America's voice. Bowling one is the most overrated food
on the table of Thanksgiving. Pumpkin pie. I don't like it.
Pumpkin pie. Apple pie is great.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
You know, everything's great.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
I would even say the ham, which I don't really
understand why ham is part of Turkey Okay, Turkey Day things.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
But pumpkin pie, it's like, I don't like to consists
all the rest.

Speaker 8 (45:38):
I think everything else an apple pie with a nice
piece of like scoop of vanilla ice cream, like real
good solid vanilla with the little bean flakes in it.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Uh, nothing better than that. Nothing. I'm a big fan
of pecan pie. Of course, you get a whole week's
calories and one good chunk of that stuff. But I think,
I seriously think that God on his eighth day made
peak on pie just to show off rum conscience. I
can't remember that.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Who cares? I'll take it. I'll take it.

Speaker 8 (46:10):
No, no, no, no, I didn't say I didn't white
met oh here's one stuffing or what do they call
it stuffing or what's dressing?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
It's stuffing. Yeah, sure we are. You know, I love it.

Speaker 8 (46:25):
You know I have won about this in the Midwest.
Since you're a Michigan guy. Soda or pop pop, it's weird.
I come from Chicago, I would called it pop. I
moved it to New York. Say pop.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
They look at me like, what what are you talking?
It's soda?

Speaker 6 (46:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (46:42):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
You know? One of these things on a stick? Cream.

Speaker 8 (46:46):
I'll tell you what I did do Gruber in your honor,
and I mentioned it because I taped the segment. I
did bet on the Wolverines plus ten in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Well, geez, there're two. They're two touchdown dogs. I mean,
good lord, I got to I two touchdown dogs at
ten points. Maybe ripped off, but I got ten. We'll see.
You know, on any given day, the Buckeys can beat
some of the professional teams. I think. However, they've got
this monkey on their back, especially last year, the national

(47:16):
championship year, and they still can't beat Michigan.

Speaker 8 (47:19):
You know, And that was important because, as you know,
I already put pretty substantial money on Indiana
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